What's Your Poop Telling You about Your Health? | Full Episode

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SPEAKER_00 0:04

Welcome to the Solex Podcast, where we talk about AO scan, frequencies, woo-woo, and everything weird in between. Let's get into it.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

And someone kind of modified that and they said, but your poop is your windows to your health, your your body. Does that resonate with you at all?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Because it's true. It's true. The body tells so many stories by what it eliminates. The problem is, is nobody really likes to talk about it. And nobody likes to talk about it because it it kind of is an intimate thing that we but we all do it.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

And it's gross.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

And it makes people laugh for some reason.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

It's gross. It makes people laugh. It makes people sick to their stomach. Most people I ask about their poop is they say to me, I don't know. I don't even look. And I say to them, I need you to look.

unknown 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

And there's a reason for that. Because everything that we eliminate, bowel movement-wise, does tell us a very significant story about what's going on internally.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

So, Jen, why don't we, you know, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into kind of this area of expertise? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

So I have been a practitioner now for probably the last, well, when I say probably, I've really been in the health and wellness industry, I feel like my entire life. But I've been a practitioner in the health and wellness industry as a sole proprietor since 2012. But my story didn't begin there. My story began back when I was really an infant. Um, and I was quite uh sick as a child. Not that I had anything wrong with me, but I just had common colds all the time. I had ear infections, I was on antibiotics quite often. And then when I turned about 16 years old, I actually started getting a lot of urinary tract infections, which were controlled primarily through antibiotics in the Western medicine. At that time, there wasn't a whole lot to go along with Eastern medicine or holistic medicine. So it was just the approach that my mother knew how to take at the time. But what it did do is that meant that literally every month or every of every other month, I was on some sort of an antibiotic to control these UTIs that were debilitating. Fast forward, what that meant was that I destroyed the integrity of my gut. I and just I destroyed so many aspects of my health by taking those antibiotics over and over again. I had chronic fatigue syndrome. I have dealt with constipation for quite some time. And so when I became a practitioner, the one thing that I chose in as my niche was gut health because I needed to essentially heal myself from all of the backlash or backstory of my childhood as it presents as it presents to me today.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Gut health has a lot to do with pooping, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:26

That is correct.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

So why why don't why don't we start with what would you say would be the ideal poop from maybe start to finish? And then I think we'll then go through each process and each step throughout the episode. But yeah, it described to me the from start, maybe from uh eating.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

So let's go. Actually, let's go ahead and I'm gonna start with the process of it first.

SPEAKER_03 3:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Because I think that's very important to understand how it even becomes a poop, if you will. Um, but digestion actually starts in the limbic system, so the brain. So it's really not even about taking that first bite of food. That's not where digestion starts. If you think about walking past a bakery or walking, you know, having your mom cook bake cookies for you, you start to smell something, and that triggers the brain to start the digestive process to say, you know what, I'm hungry. Or, wow, that smells really good. And the digestive process actually starts right there. The limbic system also has a way of creating the digestive pathway as it's starting by means of um, it can be through emotional eating. There can be emotional aspects to that. It can be whether it's, you know, somebody that has maybe a little bit of an easy eating disorder, maybe it's an they they don't want to eat a lot, or they do want to eat a lot, or they they binge eat and then you know they they release it, if you will. Um so once it goes, once it starts in the brain, then it's the mouth. So it's whatever you're actually putting inside of your mouth that then you start to chew. When you start to chew, um your body releases what's called amylase. Amylase starts to break down the carbohydrates of the foods in your mouth. Then it goes down to the digestive system or your stomach, I should say, where you have um one of three pieces to a cocktail.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Okay. And this cocktail, these three pieces of cocktail, help to break down the food that you have just consumed. So you've got um hydrochloric acid, and we can touch a little bit on these because I'm you're looking at me like, what in the world are you talking about? Um we've got hydrochloric acid, we've got um enzymes that are being produced by the pancreas, and we also have um bile being produced by the liver that is being stored in the gallbladder. So that helps break down that process. Then it goes into the small intestine where nutrients are absorbed. Once that process happens, it goes to the large intestine where the elimination process starts to happen. So those toxins are what the body doesn't need, the fibers, the excess junk, essentially, is then moved through the body and out, which creates the elimination. So the poop. So if you have a perfect poop, you're looking at a brown log, if you will. If you've got little pellets, you've got one thing going on. If you've got a little more of a mush effect, you've got something else going on. And we'll talk about those in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

Cool. So let's start with uh when you talk about mindful eating.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

And it's I know we're we're gonna cover a lot other than that kind of contributes to poop health or healthy poops. Uh is there such a thing called poop health? I mean maybe more digestive health.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

I guess digestive health. If you think about poop health, no, that's that could be something. It just depends on how you look at it. Because if you have if you have explaining that term, if you have like um little pebbles, for instance, little pebbles are gonna be an indication that you have a lack of hydration going on.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Right? So if you have something a little bit more on the mushier side, you're gonna think about the lack of fiber in your diet. So poop health, yes. Digestive health is kind of upstream from that.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Okay, cool. So with uh the mindful eating, then I I talked to you yesterday and and I've heard you talk about how when you're eating in a mindful state or a parasympathetic state, so you're calm, that rest and digest that you talk about. When you can you maybe describe that ideal situation for eating? Sure. Because when we don't eat correctly or we don't have that good um circumstance for eating, it can affect our poop. It can't affect the digestive system. Correct. And you also explain when we're not in that parasympathetic state, it also kind of compromises the digestive system and the body in processing that food efficiently or um ideally, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:04

That's correct. Because if you're in a very mindful state, uh that parasympathetic state that you just talked about, that rest and digest state, that is a state that allows the body to do the processes that it is designed to do. So if you have, if if you're um creating a digestive process for your body, you're eating lunch, right? And you're sitting at your desk and you're mindfully eating, you're taking some deep breaths, you're putting your fork down between each bite, you are chewing thoroughly. Yeah, I just have to say this. I used to make fun of my grandmother for chewing 30 to 40 times. I was like, when is she ever gonna stop chewing? But now being older, I look back and think, oh my gosh, she had it all right all along. You know, we would just inhale our food and be ready for the next thing. Um, but the truth is that in order for our bodies to absorb the nutrients from the food that we're taking in, right? We we make the choices, we make the healthy choices. Does this um, does this plate of food had have enough protein? Does it have enough carbohydrates? Does it have enough fats? You know, we tend to be like, okay, I need to eat more salads versus, you know, a hamburger or french fries. But really, it's also the state that your body's in when you're consuming that food that makes a huge difference. And that's because it gives your body time to actually absorb the nutrients from your small intestine through your um bloodstream, basically, and into the parts of your body that need it. Is it your brain? Is it a healing process? Is it just pulling out the vitamins and minerals that it actually needs from your food? Now, if you are in a sympathetic state, you're go, go, go, you're eating on the fly, you're throwing food in your mouth as you're running down the hallway, you're, you know, you're just you can't shovel it in fast enough. One, you haven't even prepared your digestive system for food because you're doing it so quickly, right? The second aspect is your body's like, I don't know what to do with this. Am I supposed to be calming this person down? Am I supposed to be working with the vagal system? Am I supposed to be working with the brain? Or am I supposed to be working with digestion? So digestion will typically take a backseat to all of that.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

And you're talking about energy expenditure throughout the body.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yep. Yep. Where does the body need to send the most energy to be the most proactive and efficient at that time? And digestion always falls short. That's a bummer. That's a bummer, but it's true.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

Okay. So once we set the stage for good eating and preparing our body to digest, then as we consume that food, chew it thoroughly. Yes, because just think of transgrandma 30 to 40 times.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

I know. And your stomach does not have teeth.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

Okay. So the chewing starts in your mouth. What you do not chew in your mouth and you put into your stomach, that's when your body has to break down the rest of that food.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

And it'll wait until it's completely broken down before it starts sending it through.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Not necessarily. Okay. No, there's a transit time.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Okay, so now we're starting to enter the stomach. So it goes through the esophagus into the stomach. Correct. And we have a lot of things going on there. And then we can talk about the cocktail that you briefly mentioned. Yes. This is this delicious cocktail.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

I don't know if I would go with delicious, but design. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

It looks great. Have you ever seen a picture, maybe? Well, okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

I mean.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

On the rocks, salt. That sounds disgusting. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

But if you if you do think about it, if someone I mean, if you've ever vomited before, you're gonna see that bile. You're gonna feel that acid come up your esophagus. So that is the acid that is in your stomach that is supposed to stay in your stomach and break down that excess foods.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Okay. Okay. That's why your throat hurts. Yep. That's why your mouth tingles when you're sick and you throw up.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Or acid reflux. Acid reflux. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

So acid refluxes. Oftentimes people think of acid reflux as having too much acid, too much hydrochloric acid in their stomach. But really, it's actually opposite. You don't have enough hydrochloric acid to tell the body to close that esophageal sphincter. So you have the acids that are constantly coming up. So that's what's called acid reflux.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

But if that's sphincter, that valve isn't closed. That's correct. Okay. It will come, yeah, it'll come back up. So it's not a matter of too much hydrochloric acid. It's just that that valve isn't closed, which is typically signals have been sent that we have enough hydrochloric acid. But if there's not enough, that's that valve isn't receiving that signal. Am I understanding that right?

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Yes, but also if someone's creating too much acid, the same thing will happen. Oh, okay. So there is a fine balance. Yes.

unknown 12:49

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

But most people have the lack of hydrochloric acid. Most people don't have enough hydrochloric acid. So hydrochloric acid does more than just break down protein, in a sense, right? That that's the that's the biggest thing. It helps break down the protein particles into a smaller formation so that then the pancreas can release what's called protease to break down the rest of that protein. But um the hydrochloric acid also acts as a buffer against anything that comes in contact with it. So it is the organisms um that you're breathing or eating on a day-to-day basis, because we have pesticides, we have um, we have parasites, we have bacterias, we have viruses, we have all those things. We have worms that we that are on our food. They're on our food every day. We're breathing them in every day. Underneath the fingernails, if someone has long fingernails, that's where that all harbors. It's where it sticks. And then you pick up food and you put it in your mouth and you're literally transporting bacteria into the mouth. So if you have enough hydrochloric acid, that is your first line of defense. So it acts as multiple things, digestion and your immune system.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Okay. So how does lack thereof of hydrochloric acid or too much or just an imbalance in hydrochloric acid, how how can you see that in your poop? Is there any way that you can, if you're pooping and you're looking after you poop, because that's important.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Is there any indications that you can look at your poop and be like, ooh, my hydrochloric acids might be off? And if not, is there a tool that we have in our hands that can Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Okay. So that's these are great questions. And the answer to that in short is hydrochloric acid doesn't work alone to break down food. Okay. So when you you you don't really eliminate and look at your stool and say, oh, I don't have enough hydrochloric acid, right? You're gonna have the symptoms of it. You're gonna have acid reflux, you're gonna have heartburn, um, or you're gonna have undigested food in your poo. But it's so what happens is that hydrochloric acid is kind of the messenger that tells the gallbladder to send bile over and how much to send because it's it's measuring how much, how much hydrochloric acid is in the stomach against food. And it says, Hey, I need X amount of bile, send that over. And then it's telling your pancreas, hey, I need enzymes, send those over. So then you have this can you have this beautiful cocktail of digestive enzymes going on in your in your stomach to continue to break down that process so that when it gets into the small intestine, the small intestine doesn't have to do the breakdown process. It starts to absorb the uh vitamins and minerals, nutrients from the food that has now been digested down.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

Okay. So speaking of this cocktail, I uh I have a friend and his name is um Drake. And he he told me to ask you this, and and sometimes when um he has bowel movements and I I'd say Drake is pretty regular. And he notices uh on occasion, maybe more than just on occasion, that his poop floats. Okay. And so uh he's asked me to ask you that, and maybe we could go over that a little bit. But does that have anything to do or what what would you look for first? Does it have anything to do with that cocktail? Or does it have any or is it further down the line into the intestines? Like maybe you can explain. No, absolutely. Is it good to float or is it not good to float?

SPEAKER_01 16:32

When you have poop that floats, um, I want you to think about the inability to break down fat because you've got too much fat in the stool, even though you can't necessarily see it, that it creates buoyancy. So it floats to the top of the water of the bowl. And that can be from a couple of different things. One, overeating fat. So somebody that's maybe on a ketogenic diet, eating a lot of fat, could see signs of their poop floating. Um, another area to go to would be um, I think about the gallbladder, because the gallbladder stores bile that's being produced from the liver. So gallbladder, um, the bile is produced of um bile salts, cholesterol, bilirubin. And what that is, is then it goes into the gallbladder, which is just a sac. And then the hydrochloric acid tells the gallbladder, hey, squeeze out a little bit of bile here. If you don't have, if one, if you don't have a gallbladder, that is that is gonna be what number one problem. It's gonna be a problem. You need to support yourself with that. Number two is if you don't have enough, maybe you don't have enough lipase. So lipase is coming from the pancreas. So the the bile comes in and helps to emulsify that fat down to smaller molecules so that the lipase can then come in and break it down into fatty acids. If the body can't be, if if you don't have enough of either one of those and the body can't break it down enough, it's gonna be in your stool and it's going to float.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Okay. So say, yeah, I am on a ketogenic diet, or I have, you know, sometimes when I've tried, or oh, sorry, Drake, he um has a diet and he he's he sees that oh, healthy fats are essential like for a healthy body. Absolutely. Um and if I okay, secrets out, it's me, okay. I don't have a name.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Listen, we all have a story, Drake, and I'm gonna keep saying we all we we all have a story.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

So if I'm trying to eat enough healthy fats, or what I think is a good, you know, checking my macros here and there, um if I'm not having the correct amount or the if I'm not having a balance of bile which is sending that lipase from the pancreas to break up those fats, it's going in my poop, but is it is it is it affecting my cholesterol? Is it affecting, you know, say, is it making me fatter? Like is the fat staying there?

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Like so it's not so much about um, that's a loaded question. Okay. Because everybody's a little bit different. Um, it would be worth looking. So if you have your AO scan and you're scanning, you're gonna look at your digestive enzyme section. You're also gonna look to see what your gallbladder is doing. Does your gallbladder keep showing up? Does lipase keep showing up? Because if either one of those do, there's a good chance that you're just not producing enough enzymes to support the amount of fats that you're bringing in.

unknown 19:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Okay. So um those are areas that you want to look at. You also want to look at do you uh is the color of this of your stool is it brown or is it a pale color? If it's a if it's a more pale color, bile creates uh bile is kind of like um, it's kind of like a food coloring. It creates a brown color. So if you, if if a stool um is more of a pale, pale yellow, sorry, a pale brown or even a yellowy or gray color, that is oftentimes the a clue to look at the gallbladder, your gallbladder. Now, gallbladder and liver are very closely related. Um, so if you ever have right upper quadrant pain as well, especially when you eat fats, that's also another indication from the body, the body's saying, Hey, I can't break this down enough. And it just creates congestion and you're going to feel that congestion. And if you don't feel it, that's okay, that's fine. You don't have to feel it, but it's it is a sign if you do feel it.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Okay. Congestion as in constipation, as in bloating.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Um, so if someone has liver gallbladder pain, um, they're gonna feel like a heaviness right under their uh right rib cage. Okay. Kind of right under the breastbone area. Another indication that the body will tell you someone if their gallbladder is just kind of acting up, is sometimes people can get a pain between their shoulder blades. It's a referred pain.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

And that's where we go to finding the root causes of pains around our body that can be indicative of problems. Okay, cool. So if we're and and you've since you've been here the past couple days, you you've quite kind of uh came up with this term of breakout scans. So in the AO scan, how can how can you set yourself up for a good digestive slash poop breakout scan? And I'm assuming you go to vitals. And then where where do you go from there? If you were to look and just wanted maybe kind of a comprehensive view on how your digestive system and your poop is going.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

Well, the beautiful thing is is there is a digestive section in the vital scan. So that's the area that I start with. Okay, so you like deselect all and then you go and I would really just run, I would first run um a full vital scan, kind of just take a quick glance of what's going on. On in the digestive section, right? What's hydrochloric acid doing? What it what are all the um pancreatic enzymes doing? Uh are any of them showing up? There's also gallbladder in there. There's liver gallbladder. Just take a look at those. If nothing is populating, um, that's still okay, that's okay. If something is populating, that's also okay. So then I do, yeah, then I'll go over to the body system scan and I will deselect all and I'll just select digestion, uh, the digestive scan, and then I will run that to kind of look and see like, why is my digestive system off a little bit today? Is it um, you know, is it the lack of hydration? Is it the lack of fiber? Is it the lack of the inability to sit down and actually eat a meal properly, being in a parasympathetic state? Am I eating too much of one category of food? So are my macros completely out of balance? Um uh some people, you know, based on, you know, that as a as a one-on-one practitioner that I have in my clinic, um, I'm also doing functional, I do functional stool testing. But what that shows me is there's there's specific enzymes that the body creates as well, called like steocrit. Steocrit is a it's a perfect marker that shows that maybe the body can't even produce or break down and not produce, cannot break down enough fat. So that is when you those are just kind of indications that you know that you have to supplement with a lipase. So that's a digestive enzyme.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

And then that's different also with if you don't have a gallbladder, for instance, then you also need to supplement with. What would you supplement with if you're I mean, obviously, if you don't have a gallbladder, you don't have that storage of bile. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

So there's many things. Um there's through the scanner, um, you could do the bile salts. So you could also um bitters. So eating, you know, arugula, doing uh dandelion teas, anything that's a that that's a bitter can help with gallbladder. Um, you know, another beautiful thing is you could take a tea, right? You make a dandelion tea and you put it on the scanner and imprint anything you can that has to do with digestion into that. So you're literally giving your body the indication or the cues that it needs to go in and kind of work with the gallbladder, but then you're also getting that actual bitter to help with the physical process of the gallbladder. Um, there's there's also digestive enzymes. Oxbile is another one that you can find in some supplementation.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

Oh, okay. So from the stomach, and ideally we're having a good balance of HCL. We're having bile coming in, um, we're having some of those pancreatic enzymes coming in, breaking down on the food. So now we're setting the stage for a good absorption.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

And absorption, how does that process start?

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Okay, so back to my story, right? Um, I had a lot of antibiotic use. So um, what happens is when the stomach lining gets broken down, that turns into what we have heard of before is what's called leaky gut. And if you think about leaky gut, the best way that I can describe it to people is if you have a strainer, right? So you have a strainer that has holes in it, like you put spaghetti in and you you strain all the water out of it. But what happens is when that lining is not fully intact, that it it creates, um, it creates a permeability issue. So you get this digested, semi-digested food from um into the stomach. And what happens is these food particles will slip through the digestive um lining into the bloodstream. So it's happening in the terrifying. It happened, it's happening in the stomach before it's happening in the small intestine.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

So I could have a piece of corn in my arm. That's not quite that. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Okay, it's broken down further than that. But the reality is these um proteins and antigens are being released into the bloodstream, which are causing the immune system to go on overdrive. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

So that's taking energy away from digestion. So it's causing havoc.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

It's causing havoc. Yep. It's causing a lot of inflammation. It's a precursor to autoimmune, it's the precursor to having your immune system just be on edge all the time. Okay. So if you have, let's just say everything's perfect, you don't have leaky gut, you've got a perfect array of enzymes coming in, it gets into the small intestine, you're absorbing those nutrients, you're absorbing your vitamins and your minerals, um, your fatty acids, your amino acids, all those things. Then when the small intestine, there's a transit time, so it's slowly kind of moving through, and it gets to there's an iliocecal valve between your small intestine and your large intestine. So it's a valve that goes one way. So it shoots it into your large intestine where it's prepping for elimination, because this is now all the particles of food that needs to be out. Okay. So when it goes through the large intestine and you eliminate it, the body, you can see multiple things that multiple processes that are happening. So if you're having, you know, uh candy bar log looking poops, that that's a good thing. If you're having like little skittle poops, okay, they're not the rainbow. Little brown skittle poops. Those are going to be an indication that you need more water. So if you think about, think about have you ever been on um a water slide? Okay. And think about going down the water slide. I am terrified of water slides. I do not like dark places. So, you know, those enclosed water slides you go through and you get to that dark, like I go into a full panic. But I have been in one where I didn't have enough water flowing with me. So I literally like my bum got stuck on the side. Stop. Yeah, that's terrifying.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Sorry, am I taking you to that place again?

SPEAKER_01 28:05

That's terrifying. So, but but it kind of falls into play here because it's the same thing that happens when when that debris doesn't have water to push it through. It dries up, it gets hard, and then it doesn't stick together. Okay, so it becomes these little pellets. So just like then you turn they, you know, they they add more water to the slide, and then all of a sudden, shoop, you just kind of plop out. Same thing that happens in the in this in the large intestine. So you get that hydration because it's soaking up water. That that those toxins, that debris, is soaking up fluid, and then it eliminates much easier. So the drier, the harder it is, those pellety type poos are an indication of the lack of hydration.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

And that can cause constipation.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Constipation.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

Because that water slide is all clogged up. Yeah. And I I think you also mentioned or with that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And with the uh the peristalsis, yep, if that pump is still going, it's just compacting, compacting, compacting, compacting.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

But eventually that peristalsis will stop because it's not moving anymore.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

So that's dysfunction. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

That's that's going to be a motility issue. Okay. Yep. So um, but contrary to those little pellets and too much or too little water for the hydration aspect, there's also where you've got enough hydration going on, but you're not eating enough fiber. So fiber creates bulk. Okay. So if you have bowel movements that are release, um, like cow pies that just aren't held together, diarrhea, constant diarrhea, that could also be a sign of um the lack of fiber. Diarrhea oftentimes is just another sign of constipation, though. Because the body has to, the body, so when you have congestion going on, right, the body still has to eliminate. It has to eliminate. We get toxic, right? So what we do is we take milk of magnesia, we take magnesium citrate, malate, oxide, we take um, we take other forms of um things to make us go to the bathroom. And my grandma would give us dried apricots, prone's, dried apricots, all the things.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

So help you poop, sweetie.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yes, yes. So our body then breaks things down that has no fiber, and so it has to squeeze past the area of congestion and eliminate. So, so that can be um another form. Now, if someone is eating food and they're eliminating within 20 minutes after they consume food, that is oftentimes gonna be something else. Um, typically there's a pathogen involved with that.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Okay. So if someone has diarrhea over a long period of time or a short period of time, so you see you have diarrhea, maybe your first thought is, oh, maybe I'm gonna try and up my fiber intake, right? Well is that the first step? Yeah, and then if the diarrhea continues, you said it could be a pathogen. Yes. Is is is that kind of the one two-step fiber still diarrhea, maybe a pathogen. I gotta get a poop test.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

And so when we're describing this, uh the consistency of poop, there's the Bristol chart. And I think there's what, maybe seven There's seven different forms, yeah. Hard all the way to the middle where it's a nice, you know, Snickers bar look. Yep. And then it goes down to that continue to get softer and softer softer and watery diarrhea, what we typically.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

So that top, that top section is gonna be the hydration, the bottom section is gonna be the fiber.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Okay. And that's just the first step, right? Because if if either of those extremes continue, then we may have further issues to look into, correct?

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Yep, then you're then you're gonna want to look back at, you know, again, the what state are you eating in? What are your maps, what are your what foods are you even consuming? Are you able to break down those foods? Um, there's a lot of other things. Then there's the bloating aspect.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Okay. And you've uh mentioned if someone has a hard time with say we say someone eats a big steak and you're bloating and you're farting a lot and it's really bad. You've mentioned that a smell of a fart or poop can indicate something as well.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

And maybe you can so specifically protein.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Let's let's talk about the meat thing for sure. So um, meat, hydrochloric acid, inability to break down that protein um can can create a lot of bloating, specifically in the abdomen region. So when you think about your stomach, you've got four different, you've got four sectors. You've got, well, you've got four quadrants, really. But that right underneath your the breastbone is really where your stomach is. Down by your um belly button is going to be where your small intestine is. And then kind of around it all is your large intestine. So if you have um a big steak, and let's say you don't have enough hydrochloric acid, your body does not break down that steak fast enough before it transits, transits into the small intestine and then the large intestine. So what happens is it gets into the intestines and it starts to off-gas, right? Think about when you put a chicken carcass in the garbage can and it sits there for a couple of days and you're like, what is that smell? It's the same thing that happens internally, but then it creates this gas that the body needs to eliminate. So you fart and it smells like sulfur. So if if you have a sulfury smell, that is the first indication that you're eating too much protein, that your body is not able to break down on its own. Are you chewing thoroughly? Or do you not have enough protease or do you not have enough hydrochloric acid?

SPEAKER_02 34:09

So that's where you look first, then you look back at the enzymes. Chewing hydrochloric acid protease, which protease is the enzyme for the pancreas. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Yep. And then what happens is when it sits there long enough, it starts to feed the opportunistic bacterias. So then you start to create what's called dysbiosis after time. And dysbiosis is just the imbalance of good bacteria to bad bacteria.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Okay. And those uh maybe opportunistic bacteria, are they typically uh flushed out with the poop then? If you're having or do they just grow and multiply?

SPEAKER_01 34:47

They just as they as you have a fun time in there. Okay. And they take over.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

They take over the world of bugs.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

So so on that big steak that wasn't. But but you also said uh maybe, maybe quickly, and then um you can go with that thought. But you said when you eat a steak, you don't chew properly, and it starts going in that digestive system and goes through, starts going into the small intestine where it it sits, it it creates a lot of gas, a lot of the opportunistic bacteria come and like, swee, look at this huge D-bone.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Why does it go? Why does it start going into the small intestine before it's all all the body has to get rid of it? Is there a clock? Like I just think of the um when you're in a restaurant and you look behind the counter and you see a timer for the people going through the drive-thru. Something like that a little bit. Like, oh look, it's already been in a minute and a half. We gotta go, go.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

It's far more complicated than that. Okay. But but you could, for the lack of, you know, better excitement, like, yes, like there is there is kind of a time frame. There, yeah, your body's like, okay, let's let's use this because guess what? Food's gonna come in four hours again. Guess what? Food's gonna come in another four hours from then. So it is really a process. And yes, there is a transit time. Your body has to utilize those nutrients and get it out because it takes a lot of energy to to eat. It really does.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

The conversation so far has kind of led me to how our body is trying to communicate with us. So it will send farts out to tell us certain things. The AO scan will help us kind of tune us into that communication that our our other that our body has for us. And it also helps us just try to be in tune with our bodies. Would you say that most people are in tune with their bodies and what goes on in their bodies?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I would say that that answer is a no. Most people are not in tune. And it's not that they don't mean to be in tune, they just don't understand the body, how the body processes. They don't understand how the body's trying to communicate. And that is one thing about the AO scan that is so brilliant is that it is a way to listen to the whispers that the body is trying to tell you. Um, I think we get so um, we we think about the scanner and and our bodies for that matter, as so black and white. But we are not black and white. We are so variable. Are we have, you know, one thing will lead to another, will lead to another, will lead to another. So um, no, I think it's really important to understand for people to understand, like when they eat, how do they feel? Um, is there are they bloated? Do they bloat after they eat? Um, are they bloated when they wake up in the morning? Are they bloated um halfway through the day? They start to bloat, they have to unbutton their pants. Um, do they get brain fog after they eat? There's so many components to it that it's hard to really pick one out, but it really is. Um, I I love journaling for that reason because you can start to put symptoms down and you can start to fit figure out where it relates in the body. And maybe it is part of digestion, and maybe it's not. Maybe it's something very different.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

You mentioned recently that and this was really cool, that our bodies are kind of our own experiment. And all of these things are clues into learning about our bodies. And bloating, we we briefly already touched about that, but bloating is kind of a in your face, extremely uncomfortable. You mentioned unbuttoning the pants. That that has implications on oh my gosh, I'm mental mental struggles with just feeling like you're you're bigger than you want to be, and if you're trying to be healthy, that's very uncomfortable. Maybe you can touch on bloating a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Yeah, bloating, um, it's far more than everything you just said about bloating, but it's also very embarrassing. You know, it's embarrassing when you're trying to, you know, you're you're going out to dinner with friends, or maybe it's a date, maybe it's even a date with your husband, and you, you know, you eat a little bit of food and you bloat, and you're like, why do why this is not how the dress looked before I got in here, and now this is how the dress looks afterwards. So it plays a it also plays a very big mind game. So bloating in general, um, there's three things I think about when I think about bloating. I think about when we bloat and how we bloat. So, what I mean by that is if you wake up bloated, I I oftentimes think of that as a motility issue, peristalsis issue. You'll find that in the scanner. There's a peristalsis um section or name, um, which then turns into constipation or it turns into bowel movements. Are you eliminating well enough? Are you are, you know, do you have that peristalsis? Do you have that motor action that's happening? So muscle, basically muscle tissues in your large intestine to push your bowel, your um poop out. So that's number one. Number two is do you only bloat after you eat? Because if you're only bloating after you eat, that's going to be more of a digestive issue. So a digestive imbalance of, you know, do you have the right amount of hydrochloric acid? Do you have the right amount of bile? Do you have the right amount of proteic uh proteolytic enzymes to be able to break down that food? Are you eating in a fast state, in a parasympathetic state, or a sympathetic state? Where are you? The last one is you feel great all day long, but but by the time you get home, you're like, where did this bloat come from? And that's oftentimes to think about uh bacteria and parasites. So that's more of a pathogenic bloat. So there are really three different stages of it, and your body will give you clues of what those are. And then it's about how to support the body with each one of those if something's going on. So for instance, you have number one, motility. Um, I think about X. Sole X, right? It's the fiber. Now, when you drink, when you drink fiber, when you, oh yeah, you can drink fiber. When you eat fiber, when you drink fiber, you need to make sure that you have a lot of water because it's it soaks that water up. So you need actually extra than you think, than you think you do. So if you take fiber and you're drinking uh, you already have a lack of hydration, you're gonna feel like, oh, that was not the right thing. Now you're extra bloated. Why am I taking fiber and now I'm extra bloated? Because you haven't, you don't have the right environment going on. So um, but X is fantastic for that motility. Um, then we get into, again, the the enzyme aspect of phase number two. And then of course we have phase three, which is going to be whether it's parasites, we all have parasites. We all have bacteria. Our body is very very intelligent and it will deal with it to a degree. And then when it can't deal with it anymore, it says, you know what? Off gas happens. And that's when just those pathogens create their own gas.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

So many things are creating gas by the pathogens and the parasites in there, by food that's just sitting in your in your gut.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

So maybe what we'll do now is I've got some fun facts slash maybe some misconceptions, or maybe some of the fun facts are myths or misconceptions, and you can kind of I'll I'll say these kind of uh rapid fire.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Love it. And then you can hopefully I have the answers for you.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

Okay is poop mostly bacteria?

SPEAKER_01 42:31

No, okay. Poop is mostly toxins that the body's expelling. So it's debris, it's toxins, it's bacteria.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

It's a wonderful mix.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

It's a mix of all the things that the body does not need to have in it.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

Okay. So it's not necessarily just food. No. Like you don't look in the toilet and you're like, that was my steak I had last night.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

So it is, it is mainly food because that is what you're digesting. Okay. Right. But there is still, there's there's then the toxins from from the bacterias. There's there's you're breathing a bunch of additional toxins. So it's environmental. It's through your foods. It is toxins that no longer serve your body. So your body needs to eliminate it so it doesn't become more toxic.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

So it's not mostly anything, it's mostly stuff that your body does not need anymore. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Food, bacteria, hydration, what comes in in your water. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Do you have to poop every day?

SPEAKER_01 43:34

That's a great question. Yes, you want to poop every day. You would um to have it be the most supportive for your body, it would be great to poop two to three times a day. But how many people really do eliminate two to three times a day? Um, the reality is if you could at least go one time a day, you're on at least a good path. When you start to skip days. That's when constipation happens. That's when you're reabsorbing those toxins. That's when you actually become toxic.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

Because it's sitting in the large intestine. And you've explained before that that's kind of the last ditch effort to get any nutrients. Correct. But if it sits there, you're saying that it reabsorbs the toxins.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Yeah. Yeah. Your body's trying to throughout the body.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

So you're getting toxic everywhere. Your whole body.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

Yep. And a lot of times people feel extreme fatigue. They'll have brain fog. They can't sleep. All of those type of things that'll happen.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

Poop is brown because of dead red blood cells and bile.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Yes, that is actually true. Um, there's so much more to it than that, but bile does create that brown color. Red blood cells are gonna create a brown color. If you have something like um things mixed with that, so let's say you have iodine. Uh sorry, not iodine. Let's say you have iron, iron is gonna create more of a darker, like a blackish color. If you have beets, it's gonna create a red color. So your if you have a lot of greens, it's gonna create a greenish color. Like your the your poo in a natural state when you're when you're getting a mix of foods, it's gonna be a brown color. When that color changes, you have to think about did you eat something, or is your body trying to tell you something?

unknown 45:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

And is it abnormal to have different colors here and there? Is there anything to be alarmed with certain colors?

SPEAKER_01 45:32

It's your body trying to create a homeostasis. Okay, unless it's consistently like that.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

When it's consistently not right, it's time to look into why it's not right.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Consistently not brown.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Consistently not brown, consistently not in a log form, consistently not every day.

unknown 45:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

So it's really about consistency.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

Men and women poop differently.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

No, we are all humans. That would be my answer. I mean, no, I would say that you're human, I'm human. We're gonna poop the same way.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

No, there are different no, people do do poop differently. Like some people need to have like a poop stool where their feet go up higher. Some people bend over to poop because it puts their um essentially it puts the um I'm trying to say the their colon in a specific position to allow it for an easier elimination. Some people have to poop when they're out on a run.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

So it's not a girls versus guys kind of thing. All right.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

No.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

You can go into the girls' bathroom and poop if you need to.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Okay, this comes back to X.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

X.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

Now maybe you can explain exactly what X is doing again, or or maybe just a couple more details. Um because the uh the misconception here is that it is bad to flush your colon. Or is that two different is that two different things?

SPEAKER_01 47:04

Very, very much so, two different things. So flushing your colon is actually not bad. Sometimes flushing your colon can be extremely beneficial to help. So you have um, you can do enemas, you can do hydrocolon therapy, which are all fine. You there is a misconception, or maybe it depends on the degree of when someone does that or how often they do that, they're gonna flush out a lot of of the good, good probiotics that they've been putting in there. Right. So um so when you take something like X, right, X is a is a fiber, fiber that is going to help kind of it's it's gonna pull, it's it's it's drawing things in to help eliminate it out. But when I talked earlier about the hydration aspect to it, it's not just about having more water at the time you take X, because that's oftentimes gonna be right at nighttime. So you're gonna be up in the middle of the night peeing as well. But you really should be drinking every, you know, every 30 minutes to an hour, but you don't want to drink more than eight ounces at a time because your body can't absorb more than eight ounces at a time. You're gonna pee it out. It becomes extracellular water. We need that intracellular water. So that's why it's so important to take the ionics gold because ionics gold is full of all those minerals that help to uptake the water into the cells so that you have optimal hydration, so that when you do take the X, you're able to eliminate it. And X is not designed to be on forever. X is for a short period of time when needed.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

Is it okay to hold your poop?

SPEAKER_01 48:39

Oh, little kids. Little kids tend to hold their poop because it's embarrassing to poop. And I would have to say that, you know, when you're in public a lot or when you're, you know, you're at work and you have to go, yeah, sometimes we do hold our poop, but no, it's not healthy. When the body is ready to eliminate, it's truly ready to eliminate. It needs to get those toxins out. Um, and the more that you train it, you tell it no, no, no, all of a sudden it's like I don't know when to go. And then you have this erratic behavior in your bowel movements. So um, yes, we all love to have bowel moves before we leave our home. Um, but sometimes that doesn't work. And no, it's not great to hold that in.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

And it's it's nothing to get too harped on, right? Like if you're up on stage giving a presentation and you need to drop a deuce, right? Okay. Then finish your presentation, go to the toilet.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

But you're saying don't make it a habit of holding your poop every time. Correct. Right. Okay. Correct. Cool. Yes. Cool. Because then you're training your body essentially to hold on to that, which is then you're getting toxins again and yeah, and there's ways to help, you know, there's there's teas, there's hydration, there's lemon water, there's coffee, there's there's all sorts of things that can help you get on a regimen.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

Some people love to drink their coffee in the morning, where other people like to do warm lemon water, where other people like to go for a walk. You know, there's these little microhabits that can be made to help you eliminate in a timely fashion. Um, and if it's not, then sometimes people just need a good probiotic because, you know, but that's a whole other, that's a whole other day because probiotics are so um, there's so much to them. But but at any rate, so there are things that you can do. You can also, you know, you can take some things at nighttime. You can take X if X too much. Then there's also um products like sleep, right? So sleep has two forms of magnesium in it that can kind of touch on helping relax the colon in order for you to have a bowel movement the next morning, in addition to the sleeping aspect that it's providing.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

So you're saying it's okay for us to have a little bit of intervention. So one of these was on here was okay, well, uh, sometimes I can't poop unless I drink my coffee.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Absolutely. You know, we we are bombarded with so many things in this day. Um, you know, we have radiation, we don't have the same quality of food as we used to, we have a lot more stressors, um, we have our lymphatic system that gets congested. We have all sorts of little innuendos that kind of block that from happening on a norm on a day-to-day basis. So, yeah, having that support is great. And if the body's saying, I need support, well, give it some support.

SPEAKER_02 51:26

Goes back to the our bodies this experiment, right?

SPEAKER_01 51:29

Yeah. And you know, there's different things, there's different types of support though. There there is. So you can, if you're forcing it with a laxative, you know, you're gonna you're going to train your colon that it doesn't have to do anything. So it's kind of like a medication sometimes. Um, it's it's kind of a form of medication for your colon that's saying, you don't have to actually work because I've got you covered. So when you do that on a consistent basis, that parasals activity stops working because it doesn't need to. So it's just not good to train your body in ways of using those type of um medications.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

More pooping leads to more weight loss.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Hmm. No. Well, it can. Um, but if you have more pooping, it depends on what type of poop we're talking about. Because if you have a lot of diarrhea, that is more pooping, you're going to be eliminating toxins, you're going to be eliminating debris, but you're also eliminating all of those vitamins and minerals too quickly. So you're going to become malnourished, which that's a form of weight loss. All right. So it's really important to get the integrity or the housing unit of your digestive system in order to work to work properly and efficiently. So the right amount of hydrochloric acid, the right amount of pancreatic acid, the right amount of bacteria. So the more keystone bacteria than opportunistic bacteria. So once you get everything kind of balanced internally, making sure that you don't have the leaky gut. I mean, there's so many components to it. I wish it were black and white, but it's just not.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Does sleep affect your poop?

SPEAKER_01 53:07

Sleep affects digestion in general. So it's not so much about poop as it is more about the digestive processes overall. So, yes, the lack of sleep can create a disruption in digestion.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

So, do you ever use your AO scan to help you see patterns in pooping? I know that uh it's been mentioned before to try to look at three or more scans to start seeing patterns and and connecting things. Is is there when we're looking at all this, like an overview of what our body's telling us, what we're seeing, what we're eating, is there any is are there any patterns that we can use with the AO scan to optimize our poop?

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Yeah. And I think it when I use the AO scan to optimize my digestive, my digestive system, because when I think about poop, I I think about the cast the up-leveling cascade, right? What's happening from the very top, from the north aspect down to the south southern aspect, which is elimination. Um so, yes, recently I had um I ate some food and I could not figure out why I was so bloated. And I was bloated in my stomach. I wasn't blown, bloated in my small intestine where it usually happens. And so for me, what I do is I have a down I in my um supplement library, I've created categories. So I have a digestion category. But what I did is I thought to myself, okay, I have this bloating going on. Bloating is to me, is digestion. It's typically not really anything else. It has something to do with this um this digestive pattern that's not happening very well. So I scanned on my quick scan, I scanned for supplements. Um, I did two or three categories, but I made sure that the digestion category was in there. Um, what I found was I look and see, do I need minerals? Do I need digestive enzymes? Do I need probiotics? What's it telling me? So this specific day that I was so bloated, um, I did my quick scan and it showed three different types of digestive enzymes. So I knew it had to do with some sort of a digestive issue. So then I did a vital scan and looked into the digestive category of the vital scan. Um, I looked at my hydrochloric acid, I looked at all my different, um, my different pancreatic enzymes, and then I looked at peristalsis. Is it not, is it that I'm eliminating? What's happening? But lo and behold, my protease came up as a level one. So one in one. So I thought to myself, oh, I'm actually eating more protein than I'm used to eating, which is true. And my body is not breaking it down very well. So I feel, I feel like my body's just not, it's not going anywhere. It's just sitting there. So then what I did is then I went into a breakout scan of my digestive to see what it's telling me. And it's it was telling me to basically um I had hydration coming up. So I thought to myself, okay, I'm probably just not drinking enough water, which I wasn't. But then it showed digestive enzymes. So I just knew that I needed to take a digestive enzyme the next for sure, the next couple of times I ate. But I also then took a digestive enzyme in between my meals to help to break down the excess protein that's just been hanging out. So it's not really um breaking down just the food in that given moment, but also food that's kind of been there for a hot minute. And sure enough, I mean, so that's how I were, that's how I use the the AO scan. I I um oftentimes will sit down and look at the digestive scan, but I'm I'm also looking at symptoms that I have. I'm thinking to myself, what where where does it hurt? Where where does it feel uncomfortable? What are those symptoms that I'm having?

SPEAKER_02 56:54

Well, thank you so much. This has been so fun. Hopefully, this is your reminder to think, have you pooped today? Or did you poop yesterday?

SPEAKER_01 57:02

And don't forget to look at it. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

And while you look at it, think of looking into your soul.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Or your colon.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

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