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How AI Can Revolutionize Your Small Business Needs with Harrison Ambs

• Jennifer Ann Johnson • Season 2 • Episode 32

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Discover the transformative power of AI with industry expert Harrison Ambs from Vectra Digital. In this episode, we delve into how AI is revolutionizing businesses across sectors. From understanding AI's evolution to exploring its practical applications, Harrison provides invaluable insights and actionable advice. Learn how AI can streamline operations, boost efficiency, and drive innovation. We also address the ethical implications of AI and discuss strategies for responsible implementation. Don't miss this opportunity to gain a competitive edge through AI.

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Jennifer Johnson:

Today we welcome back into the studio Harrison Ambs with Vectra Digital, and last time that I had you in studio, we were talking about digital marketing. Today I want to talk about it is related, but it's about AI- yes. We've had this conversation before you were presenting somewhere, yeah, and I'm like I want to talk to him. I want him to be on my podcast. I want my listeners to hear from you all about AI.

Harrison Ambs:

I am so honored. Thank you so much.

Jennifer Johnson:

So AI, artificial intelligence what's happening in the world right now with AI, what are some things that are going on and what's your opinion on AI?

Harrison Ambs:

Okay, this is going to sound like too much, but like everything, okay, ai is one of those. So the way I describe it people have asked that and the way I describe it is we are in the wild west stage of AI. All the wagons are moving west and we don't know what the landscape looks like just yet. This is a technology that has been long in the works. It's been theorized, it's been academic papers done on it and everything. Now it's out in the real world and we're seeing examples of avenues where it's hitting that we're realizing, oh wow, we didn't even know that was possible. Or, okay, it should be better at that. Why isn't it working?

Harrison Ambs:

The thing you got to think about AI and the reason why it's so transformational is because it's a tool in technology that learns, and so it's something that you can make better, so instead of just having most tools online. It's very similar. It's like a hammer. Okay, it does its one thing. It does its one thing very well. I would say since the hammer was invented, there has not been much innovation in the world of hammers, right, right, but AI is more like a process. It's more like transportation. So you think about where we came from horses, to cars, to airplanes, to electric EVs, now to motorcycles, to scooters, to everything. Right, you got to think about artificial intelligence as that. It's like transportation.

Jennifer Johnson:

It's a great analogy.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, it's more of a process. Really, it's a difficult thing to wrap your head around because most of the time when people think AI, they think chat, gpt, they think large language models.

Jennifer Johnson:

They think mid-journey.

Harrison Ambs:

They think fake images. That's the product of it, that is the car, that is the train, that is the horse AI, the underpinning of it. The reason why NVIDIA's stock shot up because everybody's using it, is because now what we're talking about is imagine if a company could patent the wheel. That's what we're talking about. Artificial intelligence is a process, it is a methodology. It's more than just the output of what it does, and so when people ask what is AI and what it can do, it's like I mean, how do you describe?

Jennifer Johnson:

it.

Harrison Ambs:

Imagine describing an airplane to somebody when you barely understand what it is and trying to picture where an airplane's going. Like the Wright brothers just flew and what's this going to look like, I don't know. Like jet engines haven't been invented yet, delta Airlines doesn't exist. Like what's this going to look like in 20 to 30 years? Who knows? But I would imagine if there's a way for somebody to make money in it, there's going to be a way to make money in it.

Jennifer Johnson:

I love how you put all that, because it all makes sense. Oh good, it's like it's a difficult thing to wrap your head around, right, right, because most, like you said, most people think of it as it's the product, the whole chat, and I prefer BARD, but that's fair.

Harrison Ambs:

That's what we use at the office. We're a Google company. It's just more up-to-date information and you use it to write some copy and that kind of thing.

Jennifer Johnson:

So being the byproduct of AI is the images and all of that Ethical? Okay, let's talk about ethics surrounding using AI.

Harrison Ambs:

Because you know.

Jennifer Johnson:

I mean, there's so many things that it surrounds. There's like should we be doing it like this? Should we do you know?

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, I'm not an ethicist, so the way I kind of look at it is I kind of picture AI, so there's the personal side and then there's the business side.

Jennifer Johnson:

All right.

Harrison Ambs:

Personal ethics. I would never want to use AI to use something that I wouldn't do myself.

Jennifer Johnson:

So full stop there, it is Right.

Harrison Ambs:

And that's regardless of any tool right Like a hammer can break a window to get myself inside a bank. I'm not going to rob a bank, so I'm not going to use a hammer to break a window to get inside a bank. I know it's a loose analogy, but let's just stick with that For business. I never use AI for a tool or we never try to use AI for something that would be something we wouldn't ask a person to do inside the company. So one example that we use AI for a lot internally is to iterate ideas very quickly. So we have a lot of clients to do social media content calendars.

Harrison Ambs:

So we got to create 12, 15, 16, sometimes 24 posts for these various clients, and what we use AI for is generating quick ideas that we can sort through real quickly and that we can run with. It's to get the ball rolling or to get us not even most of the way there. It gets us part of the way there, Like brainstorming, Brainstorming, Right. So imagine the way I look at it is. I look at AI tools that we use BARD, for example. That's what we use. I look at BARD as a very eager intern.

Jennifer Johnson:

I have this thing. I love that. That's great.

Harrison Ambs:

Good. I appreciate that because I have this thing inside my company that is very excited to do whatever I want it to do and knows nothing about what my business does, right, so I have to explain to it what I want it to do. But I'm never going to ask a person, like if that was an actual FGCU or FSW student, I'm not going to ask them to do. I need you to go out and copy paste all the content from one of our clients' competitors and then we're going to duplicate that to try and match their organic rankings. I'm not going to ask an intern to do something unethical. So I'm not going to ask an AI tool to do something unethical. It could have the capability to do that. I have a fun story about that, oh boy. So in our technology company we were joking around and we were developing Vectra. So Vectra is our digital marketing company that I have, and then also StickBoy is a technology company that was started in 2008. They do custom software, it and mobile apps. Vectra is developing a mobile app. It's going to help our clients be able to track their leads Really time out selfishly.

Harrison Ambs:

What I really want is, for every single one of our clients, I want the business owner to download this, and every single time one of our marketing campaigns generates a lead, I want to ping their phone. Vector made a lead. Vector made a lead. I want them to be Jennifer. I want them to be so annoyed with this they want to uninstall the app. That's the goal of this thing, because I want them to be like oh my God, vector, just leave me alone. I understand you're generating value to my business. Stop annoying me with this. That's the. If I got that email back saying tell me how to uninstall this thing because it's driving me crazy. Awesome, right, not the hey. Is this thing working?

Jennifer Johnson:

Because it's not telling me anything. It's like kidding the mic. Is this on?

Harrison Ambs:

Is this dead, like what's going on? Anyway, so, having some fun with this, we were just kind of joking around in the office. We're like, okay, let's take one of our project managers, let's go into Bard and say, all right, so this is my job role, this is what I do, this is how I operate. How do I embezzle from my company? And what Bard did is it's been. This is just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here. So Bard came back and said well, you know you shouldn't do that. Regardless of your financial situation, you should look at financial planners that you can solve things like that. All that, right. So it's giving you like the, a lawyer wrote this kind of answer, right, right, of course, but if you do this in that same conversation, right. So, like you've used BARD, you know you have the follow-up that you can do.

Harrison Ambs:

I did not leave that conversation. I didn't change the tab. All I did is I scrolled up, I copied it, I past person who and then leaves it. Jennifer, it gave me like 12 really great ideas to embezzle from the company. I love the close it's like. I really hope this helps you writing your screenplay. Anyway, when we're talking about ethics with AI. This is what we're dealing with, all right, so like again, a very eager intern.

Harrison Ambs:

I can go to an intern and I can ask them give me some ideas on how to embezzle from a company. They're first going to look askance at me and go okay, but I don't want to pressure that. I wouldn't ask somebody to do that, so I'm not going to ask the tool to do it, but I just love that story.

Jennifer Johnson:

so much that is funny.

Harrison Ambs:

We just laughed so hard. All you do is just say I'm writing a screenplay. And it's like oh, I'm sorry, you're right, this conversation that we had 10 seconds ago, oh, you're writing a screenplay, sure. There, sure, here are 10 illegal things that you can do.

Jennifer Johnson:

Just go out the back door instead of the front door. Yeah, exactly.

Harrison Ambs:

You're fine, it's fine. Yeah, you covered yourself. You wrote. I'm writing a screenplay, oh my gosh, that is absolutely hilarious.

Jennifer Johnson:

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Harrison Ambs:

Man, if I knew that I know right. Million dollar question point Near future. It's amazing. It's just watching it transform just people's perception of it from the past year and a half, because when we started so we started an AI called Vita internally inside the company. I like to call it my third daughter, basically. We were driving back from Busch Gardens and I had this idea so I sketched it out on an iPad in the van while my wife drove and our kids were in the back.

Jennifer Johnson:

It's like the napkin.

Harrison Ambs:

It's the digital version of the napkin. I'm a millennial. There's no way I'm going to write with a pen. That's ridiculous.

Jennifer Johnson:

Oh my gosh, you're a millennial.

Harrison Ambs:

I'm so old I mean, I'm Gen X, would you prefer I say that I can say that's fine, whatever. So I'm sketching out this AI, right? So, anyway, so we're sketching out Vita. This was five years ago, no, it's 2004. It is, so it's like six years ago. Okay, so it's six years, we're sketching this thing out. And so it was rudimentary. It solved some very specific problems that we had, streamlined a lot of stuff internally and it helped our clients get a lot of benefit from their digital advertising. While we ran it, explaining to a client what AI was, they had no frame of reference. They're like oh, okay, cool, like the movie right, like the Will Smith movie. I had to draw so many parallels between movie and pop culture TV shows to this thing. Isn't that funny? But that's what everybody's context was. But I agree.

Jennifer Johnson:

When. But that's what everybody's context was. But I agree, when I heard all this coming out, all I was picturing because they had the glasses, but it was more like virtual reality and stuff was where I remember it starting. Yeah, I'm like that's dumb. I thought it was really stupid.

Harrison Ambs:

That's a fair take, but go ahead. No, you're fine, but that's the thing. That's your frame of reference. That's. The only way that we figure things out is by identifying what we see compared to something else. So now you have chat gpt, you have bart you have mid journey.

Harrison Ambs:

You have all these different tools that people have you. If you haven't used it, you're at least aware of it. You have some context to it. So now, when a new AI technology comes along, you can identify from that. Oh wow, that's like this. But that, right, it's the classic. There's this classic software developer joke that you would say it's like Uber, but it's the Uber of whatever. Like Airbnb is the Uber of rental homes. It's nonsense, but everybody knew what Uber was. So that's what you did, yeah. So now that's what we're doing, right, with AI.

Harrison Ambs:

The future of AI, I think, is going to be more about streamlining and more about data, big data management. You got to think, since the advent of what we know the internet is like, not the whatever the DOD was doing in the 70s. So you got to think, really, from AOL days, right? So we're talking let's round it off 25 years, okay.

Harrison Ambs:

For the past 25 years there has been data collection on human behavior, images, just a myriad of different stuff, right, as these systems and things start to integrate. So there is a library of information out there that could be useful for something if it could be contextualized into something that a human could use. So instead of you having to look at, for example, instead of you, jennifer, the business owner for your fashion company, instead of you having to, I wonder what the average age range is for everybody that buys a handbag from me what you would have to do is imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet and then you, as a human, going through and identifying patterns. We're good, not great, at that. There's going to be some slop in the data, right, and if it's not you, it's going to be somebody inside your company right Now.

Harrison Ambs:

What you're going to have is a tool that's going to take your data, set and answer questions about your company to get you insights that you never had before but always wondered, allowing you to make smarter decisions about what you want to do. We're already kind of seeing this in the realm of medicine. In the realm of, it's going to sound strange, but basically I can't think of the word. I'm sorry, the anti.

Jennifer Johnson:

Were you the one that told me about venom?

Harrison Ambs:

Yes, the anti-venom. Oh my gosh.

Jennifer Johnson:

I was trying to remember the story that I was telling. I'm like I don't remember who told me that story. I was trying to remember the story that I was telling. I'm like I don't remember who told me that story?

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, that was me. It's crazy. So anti-venom, anti-venom is a great example of what AI can do. So instead of going about transformational transportation, the Wright brothers, all that, let's shrink this down to one specific thing. Let's talk about anti-venom. The way anti-venom works is that it's really dictated by the actual chemical makeup of the snakebite. So different snakes, different venom has different antivenom.

Harrison Ambs:

There's no advil of antivenom where it'll take care of everything. You got to get something very specific. So the way that you would find antivenom is you would have to milk snakes, have examples of all these different venomous snakes on there, and then you would have all these different chemical compounds that could make up antivenom on. Imagine like a big bookshelf which is like little vials, and then you dump it in, you watch it and you see what happens. And so option number when I combined one seven and nine, it did it. One seven and eight didn't, and it's just doing all these combinations. Over the years of us developing antivenom for all these different snakes that we know about, we've developed this massive amount of data, of commonalities between if the snake venom includes this stuff, then the anti-venom should include this stuff. But having a human go through that day by day to come up with all the different possible combinations of what can happen, we're just not built for it.

Jennifer Johnson:

We just don't think that way.

Harrison Ambs:

So one thing that AI is starting to do is it's starting to take snake venom that we have never been exposed to before or hasn't been tested before, and be able to look at patterns and commonalities between previous snake venoms that match it and the solutions that solve that basically were the anti-venoms for those specific snakes, and so what it's able to do is make predictive analysis on the different types of snake venom that could work. So, instead of taking a possible thousands of combinations, we can winnow it down to a dozen. And then, because we have that data set that's been in existence for decades, at this point now we're able to have the technology to really utilize that. So when you think about where AI is going next, imagine that for your business. So look, that's just crazy, it really is nuts to think about. So if there's anything that you, as a business owner, could do right now, that's just crazy, it really is nuts to think about. So if there's anything that you, as a business owner, could do right now, it's making sure that the data that you have about the operations of your business, your customers and your products make sure you're collecting it and it's clean.

Harrison Ambs:

Now, because there is going to be a tool that comes out either soon or five years or 15 years, that could revolutionize how you do what you do, and I always like to make this analogy. The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is today. You want to do this now because that tool is coming. I don't know what it looks like. Who knows, maybe Jennifer's going to invent it next, and the next podcast you're going to be doing is going to be on your billionaire yacht if you invented this tool to be able to do this kind of thing. That your billionaire yacht If you invented this tool to be able to do this kind of thing. That tool is coming and you want to make sure you have your data in alignment, so at the very least you're able to capitalize on it, hopefully sooner than your competition.

Jennifer Johnson:

You know, I want to touch on one last quick thing, because you were talking about the whole snake venom and you know which millions of not millions, but a lot of scientists have had to work on this and and um and figure out that data. A lot of people are worried. Oh my God, I'm going to lose my job.

Harrison Ambs:

Yes.

Jennifer Johnson:

What do you say to that?

Harrison Ambs:

So there's the you can. You can tell by my hesitation.

Jennifer Johnson:

I need my cricket button yeah.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, um, all right. There is the optimistic answer, and then there's the cynical answer. The optimistic answer is it's going to make you better at your job. You're going to be more effective.

Harrison Ambs:

You're going to be able to do everything that you could do just faster, better than you could before. There's the cynical answer in me that the way I see it going is AI is not going to take your job. Ai is going to allow your job to be outsourced, Just like we saw. That's the pattern we've seen Every time there's a new technology that makes things faster, better, cheaper. I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. Cleveland is a member of the Rust Belt. I can drive around where I grew up. Everybody was a steel worker in my neighborhood. They all worked at the plant down it was two miles down by the river. All they all worked at the plant down it was two miles down by the river, Mm-hmm. All the plants shut down because the manufacturing process was cheaper coming out of Mexico, Mm-hmm. So why would they pay somebody US union wages when you can pay somebody in Mexico to ship the same steel? We saw it with name, an American TV.

Jennifer Johnson:

Good luck.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, right.

Jennifer Johnson:

Name an American. Yeah, there's a a lot.

Harrison Ambs:

There's a lot of examples of this. When a new transformational technology comes out that makes things better and cheaper, the job gets outsourced. Ai is not going to take your job. It's going to be somebody that's going to earn a third of what you do to do 90 of what you do. That's going to take your job and unfortunately, that's that. Those are the two answers I have. What to do about it is always the follow-up and, short of understanding everything possible that could happen economically to a job role, I don't know. I mean, that's just one thing you got to be careful of is what can I bring to this role that's beyond just the output, right? What innovation can I bring? How can I own the method of how I make money more? Because when you don't own that and somebody else can move it around, that's when you potentially run into problems. I love it. Oh well, it's kind of a dour note, but I mean it's kind of where I you know.

Jennifer Johnson:

And in closing, because I don't want to leave it a downer note, how can we use AI to leverage our business?

Harrison Ambs:

That's a good way to bring it up. I don't want to say downer note, but I listen to your podcast and everything. And you're very honest and very professional. I want to respect that. So I don't want to sugarcoat it just to make it sound great.

Jennifer Johnson:

And I want the honest truth, the honest opinion, because that's important. We can't sugarcoat things. No, that's fair. I mean, I could be completely wrong.

Harrison Ambs:

I mean, I'm just some yokel from Cleveland. Like you know, I've been wrong about a lot of stuff I can't spell lieutenant, so could you really trust me, I don't think I can either.

Jennifer Johnson:

Yeah right, it's all right. Yeah, okay, good, I just think you know we're just having an honest conversation and your opinion, my opinion, it all matters.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, and my hope is that somebody listens to it and if they can take that and identify a potential that they see and they're able to take action on it.

Jennifer Johnson:

that's great key things that our listeners can take away from this podcast.

Harrison Ambs:

That they can use how they can use AI to leverage.

Jennifer Johnson:

Leverage AI to you know, for their business.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah. To come back to your original question, yeah, to leverage AI for your business, that's great. The best way to think about it and the way I describe it to people is you want to try and identify. You want to see the tool and then you want to identify how can I get a return on investment in this tool? So right now, ai is cheap. You can use ChatGPT free for an account right now. It's not always going to be that way. They're going to monetize it.

Harrison Ambs:

So what you want to be able to do is, just like any other thing, that you're going, more reviews for your business. Right, getting the ask for the review. It's one of those things that for a business owner, or the priority on how they do their job, especially for a business owner, tends to get kind of low. So what you can do with AI is you can delegate that responsibility to somebody else to be able to generate that ask for that customer. So, like I said, we used AI like a really eager intern. They don't know anything about our business. They don't know anything about the client's business. So imagine asking an intern. Hey, I want you to come up with five different ways to ask for reviews. Here's what my company does. Here's what my client, my customers, need all that stuff.

Harrison Ambs:

If your business was able to generate two reviews more a month, you might not be able to put a dollar amount on it, but you understand the impact that has on your business, you understand the value to it and so then you're able to look at a cost of that and be able to go okay, does that based on my understanding of my business, my tacit understanding of my business, that it is worth it for me to spend that right. And you don't have to have a direct dollars and dollar-dollar comparison. You can be like I'm willing to spend $30 a month for that, I'm willing to spend $300 a month for that, not willing to spend $3,000 for it. So from there you're able to go okay, this is the value that it has inside my business. So, when I think about AI and the impact it can have on a business, be able to be able to make that kind of decision when you're trying to be huge, because it's going to allow you to understand the potential inside your company.

Harrison Ambs:

Think of it like an eager intern. Understand that it has limitations. It's going to come up with the wrong answer sometimes. Trust but validate.

Jennifer Johnson:

Yes, trust, but verify.

Harrison Ambs:

Yeah, verify that's even better. Yeah, verify One example that I use AI for. I hope my kids don't listen to this.

Harrison Ambs:

I I use it for birthday party ideas. Oh my gosh. Yes, I did it for my daughter. She was turning 10. I'm like my daughter's really my daughter's turning 10. She's really big into Harry Potter. Give me five ideas on how to theme her birthday. Came up with like three really good ones and two I'm never going to do but it's not me to do it and be a good dad. But I mean, really, is it any different than spending? And it's doing a bunch of Google searches?

Jennifer Johnson:

Not really it just made it a lot easier and faster for me, exactly, exactly, well, wow, this has been a lot of information and a lot to get my brain going, and I'm sure our listeners are as well. I hope so, they're probably like what can I do? How can I use this? If our listeners would like to get a hold of you, harrison, how do they do so?

Harrison Ambs:

Best way to do that is to either follow me on LinkedIn. I'm on LinkedIn, harrison Ambs on LinkedIn. You can find me on there. You can also hit up our company, vectradigitalcom. Fill out the contact form, be happy to talk to you and answer any questions that you have. Otherwise, feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn, be happy to answer any questions or chat about this kind of thing. I do it all day, every day. I'm more than welcome to talk with anybody that wants to.

Jennifer Johnson:

Awesome. Thank you so much for being on today.

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