Winston & Blakk present ...Entertain The Thought
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Streaming Fumbles & Cheesehead Chants: A Sporty Spin
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Have you ever tried streaming a Tyson fight on Netflix? It’s like trying to find a Packers fan in Minnesota—good luck! This episode, Connor Strenge joins us for a raucous romp through the wild world of sports streaming mishaps and fandom quirks. We dish on the trials of holiday football streaming, joke about the cheesy roots of the Green Bay Packers' name, and share some laughs over lactose intolerance and team stats. It’s all about the lighter side of being a sports fan, and we promise, no spoilers on the Packers-Vikings rivalry… okay, maybe a few!
On a more thought-provoking note, our conversation veers into the murky world of conspiracy theories and societal shifts. We swap stories about fan chants, dive into discussions surrounding the LGBTQ+ community, and dissect the rapid waves of progressivism shaping our culture. What's the end game of elite agendas, and how do they twist our reality? We ponder these big questions, all while remaining skeptical of the secrecy that surrounds power and influence. It’s a cerebral journey, but with plenty of laughs along the way.
As we wrap things up, we serve a hearty helping of sports predictions and debates! Are the Minnesota Vikings poised for glory, or are we setting ourselves up for heartbreak? With bold predictions and playful jabs at key players, we weigh in on the NFC North race. Plus, we dive into the controversy surrounding the Washington Football Team’s name change and the societal forces at play. Whether you're here for the sports talk, conspiracy chat, or a bit of ancient mystery, there's something for everyone. Thanks for tuning in, and don't forget to join the conversation with your thoughts and insights!
Green Bay Packers vs. Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1I didn't came up saying that I don't remember what his name is .
Speaker 2Came up , you know what I'm saying .
Speaker 1We're having crossover episode today . Connor Strang in the building .
Speaker 3Yes , sir .
Speaker 1Winston and Black . You know what it is .
Speaker 3We bike , we bike , we bike .
Speaker 1For another Sunday . We're not going to stop bike For another Sunday . We not gonna stop .
Speaker 3Never , never , ever gonna stop .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , I'm loving it . I just got done watching the Vikings game , despite Despite the internet trying to fuck me . Hulu didn't let me watch the Tyson fight , and now I mean Netflix didn't let me watch the Tyson fight you , and now I mean Netflix , didn't let me watch the Tyson fight .
Speaker 2You wouldn't have missed much fans . You wouldn't have missed much fans .
Speaker 1I mean I did watch the highlight . I mean I really just I have a theme going on this podcast . Lately I've been calling myself Uncle Bob and I'm really tired of how they're destroying my generation man . These youngsters are gonna think that's mike tyson . That's not mike tyson , nigga , that's not even old mike tyson . That's . That's some dude that they put in .
Speaker 1He was crumbling you know , I'm saying like when you watch the fight . I don't know if he was hesitating to knock dude out or if , uh , dude was hesitating to knock tyson out . I'm not really sure which one it was , maybe that was just standing .
Speaker 2That 20 million , that's always on his mind .
Speaker 1You already know that maybe that's why netflix decided like okay , we're not gonna put this on tv . Well , we're gonna we're gonna cut some , we're gonna cut some corners yeah , what we're gonna do is just gonna act like the feed cut , because I'm not dude . They better not do that on football night . You know the Christmas football they got bro . They better not they're doing a football game on Christmas .
Speaker 1Yeah , live football On Netflix they did it last year and it worked out and , to be fair , this is the first live event Netflix has had that had any kind of problem . But they better not play with Christmas football . I guess the Vikings ain't playing , so I don't really care .
Speaker 3I wonder if it's because football is like more like American kind of thing . It's a national thing and that fight was like worldwide . Everybody in the world knows Mike Tyson , you know what I'm saying .
Speaker 1Right , right . And for the most part they , like you said , they regionalize their stuff . You know what I'm saying . The same stuff that they watch in the UK is not all available in the US , it's not all available in China and stuff like that . So maybe you know I wasn't happy about it . Quite frankly , that was some bull .
Speaker 3But you know it is what it is . Netflix got their money , bro . You know , netflix got hella fucking money from that shit . Even though , like thousands , tens of thousands of people couldn't watch it , they got paid right .
Speaker 1Right , I mean new subscriptions alone . I'm guessing there were people that were trying to do . You know the scam that people do get your friend's password or subscribe and unsubscribe real quick , even though that's a trap Because a lot of people be forgetting . You know what I'm saying . You don't get a reminder . Nobody reminds you . Hey , remember you were subscribed to us and if you don't want to pay , this is your time to unsubscribe . Nobody reminds you of that shit . But that's true , yeah , man .
Speaker 3We got Conor Strang in the building , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Packers , packers , apologists . I've been meaning to ask people what the fuck is a Packer , bro ? I get the Lions , I get the Bears , I get the Bengals , I even get the Steelers . You know what I'm saying . There's something hard about a steel mill worker . What the fuck is a Packer ?
Speaker 2Man . That speaks for itself . Well , how ? How doesn't it , bro ? Have you never heard the story of the Green Bay Packers man ?
Speaker 1No , I've never heard of it . That's why I'm asking Cheese .
Speaker 3Cheese heads .
Speaker 2Packers , I mean I .
Speaker 1Are you saying like , you saying like what , what ?
Speaker 2is a packer . Well , what is the origin of that like ? Where does it come from ? From what I've gathered , I'm not going to stand 100 quoted on this , but but I but it's packing the cheese like a packer , like a person in a , in a in a in an industry that packs away the cheese , like just a person like , like , basically like a manufacturer worker that puts his stuff on the pallet .
Speaker 1So basically what ? You're saying is Packers are not for everybody . You know what ? I'm saying Most people are in lactose intolerant , so you might get right into it , you get right into it he said , most people are lactose intolerant , like like you see , you know , I know . Intolerant like like you see , you know , I know .
Speaker 2We have a podcast called uh , kings of kings in the north you know , listen , you know if you , if you pop into that , for sure , if you don't , you definitely should .
Speaker 1You know , I'm saying it's a fan cast . Everybody's welcome to give us their opinion . But uh , but , uh , hold on . Um , you guys know I'm recording right . Yeah , we got visitors in the studio , but what was I saying about the Packers ? Yeah , listen to Kings of the North , but you know , I want to know why the name Packer is to be feared Lions . I get it Ferocious .
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying Look at their stats , bro . Look at their stats . That's why they should be feared .
Speaker 2Tell me , tell me , let's start this off . I'm going to start this off with what's a Packer ? All right , so I got directly to the stats . So in 1919 , curly Lambeau , franchise founder , decided to start up a local football team in Green Bay . At the time he was working for the meat packing company Indian Packing as a shipping clerk and he managed to convince his employer to sponsor his new team . Indian Packing agreed to sponsor his team by providing uniforms , financing the start of the club and offering up the company's football field for the team to train on . In the return , the team was named after the company the Packers for advertising purposes . There you go , there's basically where it started . And second off , we want to talk about what's a packer . A packer is the most championships in all of football . Yes , we're the oldest team , but we're the most . We're the . We are the nfl man .
Speaker 1Come on packers are the nfl america's team who green bay is america's team man , I like talking , we are , we are the nfl man , the oldest team in ball man I don't , I don't think , I don't think any championship you win before black people were allowed to play is allowed you can't .
Speaker 2I've had a super bowl in my life , man , I've had a super bowl in my life . Being 24 years old , I've seen a super bowl . Hey , hey , tell me , tell me , tell me , no , no , no . How many have you seen ? How many have you even seen ? How many of you , how many of you got to watch even vikings , even playing one man , even playing one , even playing one , the closest , closest you got is like an NFC championship and it was heartbreak . It was heartbreak , man . It's really hard being a Vikings fan . It's really easy being a Packer fan . I can handle losing far in the playoffs every year , but being a garbage team and not being able to really figure shit out ever really sticks .
Speaker 2You can have a good season , but I haven't seen any far success in a long time .
Speaker 1And then purple you know this is bringing up old shit , because they're not- shit .
Speaker 2I'm not bringing up old shit . I'm not bringing up old shit we can talk about . My lifetime is not old shit ? The Packers versus Vikings in my lifetime the Packers have dominated them . And then you want to go into further . We got into this talk last time and then you want to go into further . We got into this talk last time and then you realized that you were wrong because you , because you looked up the career statistics , yeah , and then you didn't want to talk about the career statistics . So it's okay , it's okay , you don't . You say I talk about stuff in the past and then when I talk about stuff in the present slash like my mild past you're like , oh , that's too old . No , it isn't . I've seen a super bowl in my lifetime . I'm only 24 . That's not not old . I've seen the Super Bowl . You haven't even got to see that with your eyes , man .
Speaker 1Okay , let me tell you what I was trying to say before . I just remembered , even though we have a podcast called Kings in the North .
Speaker 2We are the Kings in the North .
Speaker 1I don't wish any of the other teams in the North any good .
Speaker 2I hope they lose all 17 games , I agree , except when they play each other .
Speaker 1I games , I agree , except when they play each other , I hope they tie . I'm not one of them . Motherfuckers that's like oh , the Vikings have been eliminated , go , pat , go . At least the North won . This is not high school . We lost to the team that won .
Speaker 2That's never been me . That's why I hate the Niners , because the Niners have been our heartbreaker in the playoffs a lot and that's why I was . I know they were a little injured in our last game , but there's no excuse for that domination , no excuse . They had several healthy players . We dominated them .
Speaker 1Shout out to anybody that listens to us in Wisconsin . But I'll tell you what man I don't like y'all's team . I don't wish nothing good for them unless they join the Vikings . You know what I'm saying ? It's a wonder .
Speaker 2It's no wonder that one that came to the Vikings he wished he could sniff some of Jacob's stats .
Speaker 1He wishes . I'll tell you what . It's not a wonder that he misses the Lambeau Leaps .
Speaker 2It's not a wonder he misses the Lambeau Leaps . He don't like Minneapolis .
Speaker 1It's not a wonder that Brett Favre came to Minneapolis and had his best career season .
Speaker 2And he got a hit on his head . Literally .
Speaker 1They're literally paid more to . If they injured him , they're getting a bonus . Oh yeah , that's , that's wow . They should vacate that championship . That that was crazy .
Speaker 2That was a crazy , crazy , crazy game and you could tell dude like when they would sack him , they would like stomp on him , they would like literally step on his limbs , step on his like kick him . I was like bro .
Speaker 1They're trying to kill him and the Vikings had a ferocious defense that year . The offense was finally balling and I really feel like we would have beat the fucking , we would have beat the Colts that year .
Speaker 3Connor , when you were living near Minneapolis for a little while , did you get a lot of shit for wearing Packers ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , Well , the closer you get to the cities , I mean it's , it's , it's a lot , it's a lot of vikings fans . But you still see both and like the one , like today , for example , when I was in mankato , uh , there was a little kid just randomly you see a lot of vikings clothes around here even and then this little kid came up to me and he had a little uh packers chain on , like a little like gold packers chain on like a little like gold Packers chain . And he just taps me and I look at him . I'm like what's up , man ? And he's like go , pack , go . And then I look at him , his dad's like smiling . I bet you he like seen me because I was wearing a Packers sweatshirt . So I bet you he saw me . And he's like dad was like this is funny . I just ran with this little kid comes out of nowhere and he's just go back , go . I was like yeah , yeah , packers
Exploring Dark Conspiracy Theories
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1And Packers supporters are strange . First of all , even our chair is better . Skull sounds better than go pack , go , go pack .
Speaker 2Go . It's so 70s , get the fuck out of here , and then that's a ear sore .
Speaker 1That's an ear sore , All you LGBTQ people . The P stands for Packers . I don't understand .
Speaker 2I don't understand , but I'm going to dive into that I ain't going to dive into that .
Speaker 3Yeah , I was going to say that's crazy .
Speaker 1Hey , what's crazy ? The .
Speaker 3P stands for Pack's crazy .
Speaker 2You know what the p really stands for right what pedophiles what , no , no yes , sir , they didn't add that yet there's no way they successfully yeah , I think it was . I think it was what they really did .
Speaker 1Add that what the fuck , yeah , dude , they did I don't know , about that .
Speaker 2I don't care what anybody says . There's nothing right about that . I'll say that .
Speaker 3No , because they say that their sexual . What is it their ? Sexual attraction or whatever is just people younger than them . Not younger than them , but like young , young like dangerously young .
Speaker 1Yeah , dude , that's crazy . I'm a little bit more irritated . I'm a little bit more irritated by that now because , like I have , I have friends that are LGBTQ . A plus , and I don't think that it's it's it shines a favorable light on them . That's like saying , ok , ok , uh , black people are fighting for rights and freedom , and then you , you , you lump up black people with I don't know demons or something . I , I , it's , it's , it's , it's , very it's . There's a lot of shit that's attached to to the p word .
Speaker 1I don't really want to say there's a lot of shit I got I , I got gay friends , like you know .
Speaker 3I got friends that are gay and shit , but me personally I don't put them into that , to that community . I feel like that community is a whole , a whole different sector type here . Hashtag , that's just me .
Speaker 1Hashtag Stand up for your LGBTQ partners . That shit is not favorable for , it's not favorable for for people of that of that um persuasion . It just doesn't like . Are you serious ? Like what is the ? Are they saying this is a psychological thing ? Are they saying that ?
Speaker 3Yes , yeah , that's exactly what it is . Yeah , that's just their sexual preference Children , which is wild bro . That's crazy .
Speaker 1Jesus Christ , that's crazy . Like mentally , what do you want from a child ? How is that enjoyable to you ? That is , it's like saying cancer is normal . It's like you know . You know what I'm saying . It's a sickness , it's , it's it's I I don't know how you even begin to if there's medication for that .
Speaker 3That's wild that weed , that good weed that's wild they shouldn't put that .
Speaker 2They shouldn't put that together they should have their own organization .
Speaker 1So people are very clear . So people are very clear that's wild bro yeah , it's some crazy shit .
Speaker 3World's changing like fucking fast . Person started with people being gay , then , which is fine , you know you're gay , you're , you're secure in your , your sexuality and who you are , as a man or a woman and then it goes into wanting to change all that and then it goes into being an animal and then , like we're talking about fucking liking children .
Speaker 1That's wild dude , I feel like we've gotten too progressive as a people .
Speaker 2Human beings we , no , no , no , no no .
Speaker 1I say we as humans , human beings , that shit is wild , bro Like .
Speaker 3Well , I know you don't like to get into it , but that's the whole agenda . That's the whole agenda of the elites . And shit bro . They want to fucking fuck everybody's mind up and get them thinking the wrong shit . Yeah , but I'm thinking that that wrong shit is OK .
Speaker 1I understand that . But what is the end game ? Is it just to have a world where people are distracted by , by these political and made up lines and just thinking wrong shit ? Or is it to hide our true , the true origins of man ? Is it to ? What is the purpose ? What do you gain ?
Speaker 3I don't know what they gain . My thing is I I think that they're . They're like you said they're trying to just distract everybody from what's really going on and nobody everybody's worried about the wrong shit .
Speaker 1It's , it's . I've always . You see , that's my problem with conspiracy theories any conspiracy theory where it makes sense for somebody to gain either ridiculous , unrestrained power or billions of dollars , like I could get . Why a motherfucker like bill gates wants to , like , reduce the population of earth and stuff . Why ? Why he ? Why he feels like , oh , there's too many of us and we need to find a uh , a chill way and we need to find a nice way to uh , not a nice way , an ethical way to reduce the population . We're putting too much strain on earth and all of that .
Speaker 1And people that are in favor of eugenics and and changing how we farm and 3D printing meat and shit like that . Those people are the people that don't have real problems . Those are super rich people . They're removed from reality and you know it's like you're in your house . You step out on your porch and you notice that , damn , the amount of wolves in the woods behind my house is getting more , so let me do some shit to remove . They look at us like vermin . We're not . You know what I mean .
Speaker 1And this is the real vermin are the people that are doing all this child trafficking in high places and rumors of people like leeching blood from kids and stuff , like . I was watching a podcast the other day and it's crazy because this is like for real , a fan cast . It's like we're a podcast that shouts out other podcasts that we listen to , that these people don't know us or shout us out , but that's besides the point . I was listening to a podcast where they had a new Orleans witch on there and she was like , uh , and she said something about she stopped , um , doing seances and stuff because , like she couldn't stomach her last ritual .
Speaker 2Hmm .
Speaker 1What was your last ritual ? She said it was the first time she did a leeching ritual . And I'm like leeching . I'm like , ah , winston will like this .
Uncovering Dark Secrets and Beliefs
Speaker 1These guys , these guys don't kill kids . They traffic kids , but they don't kill them . What they do is they hold on to them and keep them in a state of terror . They're terrified , they're scared and then , whenever they're most scared , whenever their heart rate is the fastest , they take the blood from them and drink it . And apparently that's supposed to make them young and it's supposed to give them adrenaline , and there's a weird high they get from this .
Speaker 3It's called . I think it's called , I think it's called adrenochrome that kids secrete into their bloodstream when they're I'm sure , like all humans do it when they're in a very like giant state of fear . But apparently kids have that a lot more when they're very , very terrified . And yeah , you're exactly right , that's , that's what it is . They get high off that shit , more addicting than any other drug ever , is what I understand from it this .
Speaker 1How do you even figure that out , like you start just just by trying it .
Speaker 3But , dude , but also you got to think like , if we go back to like the bohemian grove , that thing's been around forever even before . Like people have been doing rituals even in like native times , like old , old , old native times mexico , united states , whatever , whatever region , like they've been doing rituals forever , so I'm sure it's been around forever . You know what I'm saying like one thing .
Speaker 1One thing that never seems to like , never fails to shock me , is the wickedness of of like the human race towards each other .
Speaker 1Like it's wild to me , man , how , like you even if you remove shit like slavery from it , like what people are doing to each other , like what I'm doing to like , like I'm from Iowa , what I'm doing to a motherfucker in Wisconsin , what makes me feel like a motherfucker ? Like that is less than me and the fact that we're not we're . We're more focused on these mystical bullshits and the stuff it's distracting us from than finding our true origins . Instead of finding adrenochrome , how about we find uh , who really built the pyramids ? You know I'm saying instead of you , not for real . What was that really made for ? You know , instead of , instead of , instead of uh spending all this money trying to 3d print meat , how about we dig up gobekli tepe ? I am so interested in , like where we came from . You know what I ?
Speaker 3mean , yeah , I agree , but it's like you said earlier , dude , it's the whole power thing and like staying young , staying in that power for as long as they can . Pyramids ain't gonna do that for them . Pyramid ain't gonna like help you live a little longer okay , but apparently that adrenochrome will apparently nothing helps you live a little longer .
Speaker 1Man . Look at the , the , the , the apple guy that died if there was something that money could buy him . That's why I don't believe there's a cure for cancer and shit like that . I believe that there are some things that are hiding from us and there is conspiracies and there are things that , like you know , like that there are secrets and stuff like that that we're talking about . But , like I mean , I'm trying to put it into into , into reasonable , reasonable , like it's just it comes all comes back to why .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Who are you going to rule ?
Speaker 3over .
Speaker 1Who are you going to ball on ? You know what I'm saying when you do all this conspiratory shit to to like keep people in the dark and and people don't know what's going on , and like , after you do it , what is the point To be here by yourself with all your money ? Who are you going to ball on ? What are you going to buy ? You know what I'm saying . When it's all said and done and you're on earth and everybody is rich , who's going to do the work ? You know what I'm saying . Like I don't get it . It just doesn't make sense .
Speaker 3It's the only reason why conspiratory shit just I don't really buy it yeah well , I don't know , maybe it's just to stay in power , for leaders to stay as leaders in their , their generations , to come , to follow up and continue that that lead .
Speaker 1The thing is there's nobody to ask . And if you did find somebody who you thought you know , or one of these Bilderberg guys or you know , like somebody's , somebody's nephew , who is like in it , you know , these mill , these 1% families , if you did find one of them and they did tell you the truth , how do you even know it's the truth ? It's like so fucked you know what I mean Like we're so far deceived . How do you know , you know ?
Speaker 1what I mean I mean don't get me wrong , man Like maybe they know something we don't . Maybe they know that religion is like a construct . Maybe they know shit that makes them know that there's no consequence to the shit that they're doing .
Speaker 3Who the fuck ? I don't know how you guys are , but me I don't really believe in a religion . I mean , I grew up as Christian Catholic but I don't really believe in a religion . I mean , I grew up as Christian Catholic but I don't really like believe in a religion . I just believe in God and Jesus is our Savior .
Speaker 2Yeah , I definitely believe in God and definitely Christian . I'm definitely fully Christian .
Speaker 3But the whole religion thing like following a religion , I feel like that's a little like . But the whole religion thing , like following a religion , I feel like that's a little like . There's just a gray area between knowing God and following God and then just following the religion .
Speaker 2Are you saying like the church itself ?
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah yeah .
Speaker 1Like me .
Speaker 3I don't go to church , bro , but I don't feel like I'm a bad guy . I pray , I talk to God . You know what I mean , yeah .
Speaker 2And like getting some reading into the Bible and stuff like that .
Speaker 1And like .
Speaker 2I said , I'm not as good with going to church but , like I said , I definitely still think , like as I get older and stuff , I'd like to like try to get a good basis of it , because it's a good construct and I think it kind of has a community sense to it and stuff . But you don't want to have drama or anything like that , just strictly church-related and stuff . But , like I said , I'm not as good at it right now , but I definitely like to follow the word of the Bible . I put all my trust in everything you've got . I pray and talk to him when I can and shit .
Speaker 3Amen brother .
Speaker 1I mean first thing , I'll say is I'm a Christian , I believe in Jesus . I've Felt Fellowship in certain places . I've gone to certain churches , certain friends I've had like is there's definitely a God . Here's my question .
Speaker 2And I know for a fact , like dude , I felt so many different things in my life . There's there's so many circumstances where I've I mean there's certain things where I know he was looking out , like I just know he was looking out , I there's , there's nobody else that could have been looking out . I've been in so many situations , tour dude , he's looked out so many times because I'm still , I'm still 10 toes , 10 fingers , I still got everything and I'm like I mean especially like , if you like dirt , if I get , if I get my hands in anything like like a dirt bike or foil or anything , I mean I'm , I like , I like to anything with speed , I like to go fast and so , so I mean that type of stuff too . So I mean I've always been pretty , not only that dude .
Speaker 3I won't get into the details of this stuff , but like when we were in high school and shit and all this stuff that went down with the friends that we used to hang out with , like some of them went real left you know what I'm saying and we could have gone down that path too .
Speaker 2but like a lot of times we got out of the way . Before that was an issue , as you can see right now we're definitely . We're definitely level-headed . We could talk like normal humans . We we live day to day . We're eating meals every day , we have a roof over our head . I mean there's I'm never going to name names in any of this because I'm never going to call people out but I mean I know several people that are not doing well our age like yeah , not doing well not doing well and there's a lot of people that dude .
Speaker 2There's some people in our grade that could be living across the country , literally homeless , for as far as we know , bro because like even if you go to denver or any city like denver .
Speaker 2I noticed it a lot . There was a kid that like it was really sad man . He was younger than me , he was like 20 and bro was fully homeless . He was so dirty and his hair was matted and shit and I was like I was like you , good , and he was like definitely he was drugged up , bro , and I was . I was like damn , what does it take like for somebody to go down that path ? Bro , I I never know what it's like because I've never been in the mindset of that , but like I I don't know if I like I don't necessarily feel bad because there's a time where you were somewhat sober and you and you grab something you shouldn't have grabbed so I don't feel bad , but when you get to it it's like I never wanted , I never would wish bad upon a human .
Speaker 2So it's really sad to see it in real life action . So like when you any I don't care what you say , it's really it's never good to see any human down like no matter what you believe in it's . When you see like I don't know , it's just , it's not everybody gets is more happy . Like , say , you're in like time square and everybody's happy and there's christmas music or whatever , I don't care what you say , most people would like that . Most people would be like damn , this is pretty cool , everybody's happy , nobody's , nobody's beefing like there's , there's , there's a lot of , there's a lot of . I mean I , I mean everybody would say this , but it would be really cool if I mean it . Also , what I will say is it's good to have polar opposite opinions . If we didn't have polar opposite opinions in this world , we would have a weird world .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's definitely true .
Speaker 2That would be like okay , yes , I agree with you Like nobody likes a full yes or no ?
Speaker 2Nah , so like that would be a weird world . So you've got to have different opinions . That's what we're talking about right now . Obviously , there's different things we could have different opinions on and it's all . Obviously we definitely us three we respect all the opinions , but like we can still talk on it . Obviously it's there , there's in every aspect of this world . There's always going to be different opinions , no matter what you say . There's so many , especially these older people and stuff . Like sometimes you just can't change your mind and I I have so many , so many old people that I love and I mean it is what it is , and sometimes , when they're old , it's just like you can't change your mind yeah , for real and then when they're when they're a certain age that , like being young , it's like they're , they're stuck .
Speaker 2They're not stuck in their ways , they're just stubborn yeah , and that , that , that , that could have been all of us as well when we were young .
Speaker 3It was kind of yeah for real .
Speaker 2So I mean it kind of all world . The world would be weird if everything was the same and everybody agreed on everything .
Speaker 3Bro , did you guys see that podcast ? I don't know which one it was , but I just saw a clip of it where they asked their AI if there's a God and the AI was saying that , with all the things going on in the world and what's like it is leading to that , yeah , there is a creator . Ai saved that dude . That's pretty wild .
Speaker 2There's nobody ever that could convince me that God isn't real . There's nobody on this earth . I believe in him so firmly . If there's anything on this world that I believe in so firmly , it's him . Just because I mean , look at the creation . That wasn't just boom . That wasn't just boom . That wasn't just boom . The mountains and shit that was painted . But that was , that was god's work . I know there's a tectonic movement and different things like that , but it's created so beautifully . That's not just boom yeah , I hate that boom shit , hell nah hell .
Speaker 1The thing is , there's so much , that's that's and all the animals and stuff .
Speaker 2They don't just kaboom . Yeah , bro , that exactly that's what I'm saying everything , every little thing what happened to us ? We just , we just boom , there's a human come on .
Speaker 3Yeah , they say we came from like I'll tell everybody that yeah and like , that's part of like .
Speaker 2If you follow god , that's part of your , that's part of your . Just normal due diligence is to is to tell people what you think of him , if , and to speak of him and to like , if somebody especially when somebody asks you , don't want to shy away from that's the number one thing . If somebody asks you if you believe in god and you shy away from it , that's , that's I mean . I'll never be shy to say that I , I , I , fully I'm 10 toes on it .
Speaker 1Yeah , me myself . Here's my question , though , because I believe that curiosity like I want to know why people believe what they believe , here's the reason why the God I believe in , the God I serve , I honestly don't believe that there's a trumpet that's gonna blow one day . And people who never heard about jesus let's say they were buddhists in , in , in , in , in in some tibetan mountain somewhere , being monks their whole life .
Speaker 2they never heard of Jesus , but they never hurt nobody , but they lived in harmony with their area I can agree , because Jesus accepts everybody in that sense , if there are sense , living to his word without essentially serving him .
Exploring Religious Beliefs and Perspectives
Speaker 2If you're a good human , I still believe you're going to go to heaven . I believe if you're a through and through good human , you're going to heaven . That's what I believe in . I believe in God're a through and through good human , you're going to heaven , so that's like like that's what I believe in .
Speaker 1I believe in .
Speaker 2God through and through . But I believe if you're , if you're a good human and you serve a good purpose on this earth , you have , you have a bright afterlife .
Speaker 1And like things like Jesus appearing in the Koran . I thought this was a separate religion . You know , Jesus appearing in the Koran .
Speaker 1Jesus appearing in the yeah , jesus appearing in the quran and jesus according to muslims I have a muslim buddy that I had this argument with , which is kind of why it came up in my mind is he says what converted him to christianity , as a mus come from muslim family and growing up as a muslim , is the quran . And I'm like whoa how ? You know how ? Because I was asking him these questions about similarities between religions and the question I just asked you about how will somebody who lived a pure life go to hell like god ? The god that I serve , the benevolent , kind , pure god , just because you never knew , was saying , if you die you'll go to hell . I don't believe that .
Speaker 2Even , even , even , christianity , like the Bible . I don't think that's excluded . I don't think that's saying that they're , they're not . I don't think that's like . I think you're , you're , we're thinking of , you're thinking of God , like , you're thinking of the Bible , because , like , the Bible itself isn't excluding's , not saying like , it's not saying that , like you said , like a pure , like a pure living buddhist that does good purpose on this earth , it doesn't kill anybody , it doesn't , it doesn't do , do morally moral , like in , like wrong things , that I , that , I , that I believe , like , like I don't know how to exactly explain it , but , like I said , I'm , I , I follow the bible and in the bible I'm here's the thing my partner said in the Bible , reading from a Muslim's perspective , that Jesus is greater than Muhammad .
Speaker 1And I'm like what do you mean ? Jesus is greater than Muhammad and he's like no , in the Quran it mentions Jesus and he's not like a bum or some straggler . It mentions Jesus and he's not like a bum or some straggler . And so if they ? And it says in the Quran that Jesus is the word and in the Bible it says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and the word was with God , so if Jesus is the word and the word is God , then Jesus is God , you know .
Speaker 2In the flesh .
Speaker 1So we have evidence based on text that Jesus was a person and he existed and he was a great like , as far as religion goes great religious person , teacher , like , miracle worker . So why the different religions ? Why does it say that there are texts from other civilizations and religions before Christianity that have these same type of stories that somebody came from the sky , he was a God , people worshipped him and he helped start civilization . You know , like yeah .
Speaker 2Like I said , that's the main reason I believe and follow God and the Bible and all that is . I've seen a few different , like I've traveled a decent amount for my age and there's just no way , like I'll say , the big boom , the big bang , the big bang theory , it wasn't just kaboom and the most beautiful planet was created . It's , it was . It was God . God picked this planet and he made it his and his artwork , and it obviously shows it was God . God picked this planet and he , he made it his , his artwork , and it obviously shows , especially with the like , the amount of animals . Where where would they just come from ? They don't just they don't just they don't just come from the big bang . They , they , they , they . They came from God , the creation of God .
Speaker 1Yeah , the . My other question is how much editing has been done to the Bible Of all these books that were found afterwards ?
Speaker 2I think a lot of the issues was language barrier and certain handwritten things .
Speaker 1No , but the thing about it is a lot of these books that were supposedly books of the Bible the book of Enoch and all these other books that were found afterwards and unearthed how do we know they're not books of the Bible ? Because none of the Bible was actually written by Jesus . You know , it was people that were telling the stories , and when they told their story , how much of it differed because of their perspective . Everybody's perspective is different . I'm not saying they were lying .
Speaker 1I'm not saying they were inaccurate . I'm not saying they were inaccurate .
Speaker 2Yeah , but that's just like anything in this world when you get several perspectives , you make a general conclusion .
Speaker 3Exactly .
Speaker 2And you make a general basis of everything that's going on , and I think that's what happened in it and that's why I think it's so accurate . I think it's very very accurate and depicative and there's there's several things in this world that you could see come to light from those writings . I mean it's really
Questioning Religious Beliefs and Mysteries
Speaker 2deep .
Speaker 1A lot of it is contradictory , Like , for example , in the Bible you're supposed to obey . Slaves are supposed to obey their masters . Obey your masters . I thought Jesus was the master . I thought Jesus was God . Why would God tell you to obey ?
Speaker 2Isn't it on the basis of all the people being essentially like a servant to him ? But it's a good way You're serving . You're serving like . I don't think it meant . I don't know if it meant it like that , yeah , exactly .
Speaker 1So what we're proving ? The point , the question I'm asking right now is how much of the Bible is changed by interpretation ? How much did the council of nicaea change when they were going , when they were going to places and murdering people in the name of religion , in the name of christianity ? How much of the bible did they change to fit their agenda ?
Speaker 3that's , that's my whole point about , like me , not really following a certain religion . You know , I'm Christian , I follow Jesus Christ and our God , but the whole , like choosing a specific religion . That's why that's like , exactly why . Because , like , how do you know what's right and what's wrong ? I don't know , but I know that God is right , I know that Jesus is right . That's what I know . Because , like you said , in all these different books like they , they mention the same things but , as you're saying , the perspectives are different . And that's where I'm like .
Speaker 2I really don't know a lot of this . A lot of the stuff is like it . The thing about it is , though , the reason why I , why I like the , the ten commandments and stuff like that , is because it's just in written form , and the reason why I , why I like the , the ten commandments and stuff like that , is because it's just in written form , and the the reason why it's because it's the truth . The ten commandments are things you should not do . You know what I mean ? How about that ? Like that's morals like that ? Like what are those ?
Speaker 2I don't care what you say . Which one of those do you think is is technically okay ?
Speaker 1they're not okay , yeah , not one of them . How mystical is all of this stuff ? Because let me ask you this if you and I , let's not even go back that far , let's go back to 1924 . You and I went back to 1924 . We had the technology to time travel and we showed up let's not even go too spectacular we had a uh , a sidekick . Remember that phone ?
Speaker 1remember the nokia sidekick , the t-mobile yeah , let's say , let's say we had a sidekick or a blackberry , let's use blackberry . We had a blackberry , right and uh and just a regular , no frills , no self-driving , no auto , nothing , just a regular , no frills , no self-driving , no auto , nothing , just a , let's say , a Buick Grand National , a GNX Shout out to Kendrick Mustard . Anyway , let's say you went back with a BlackBerry and a Buick Grand National . You know , just a regular old school , basic car . You know , probably doesn't even have cruise control , and uh and uh and a microphone and a microphone with a Bluetooth speaker and you told people I will put this microphone inside your house and I will go next door and you will be able to hear me . People in 1924 would think it was sorcery . People that were in a horse and buggy would think that your magical machine that you get into and close the door and drive off at unattainable speeds for their horse . They would think that was a chariot of fire or some shit You're going to raise that .
Speaker 1Okay , let me ask you this . Let me ask you this some shit .
Speaker 3You're going to raise that . Let me ask you this . Let me ask you this real quick . Let's go to today . Let's say this is just an example . I just want to see what you think . Somebody gets in a horrible car accident Chances of living maybe 20 , 15% . That person's in the hospital they go through a coma , you know , have to go through the whole rehab and everything , but they come out after that rehab completely fine . Another , you know , regular person all over again , is it ? You consider that mystical ? Like like I , like me , I think that's just the miracle work of God . Here's the thing . You know what I'm saying . I get it .
Speaker 1I get it . But if I , if I went back in the day right and uh , somebody fell off a tree from trying to get some psychedelic honey off the side of a cliff and I took him in and I fixed his leg . After six weeks he was walking . After six months the cast came off . They probably think I'm some type of witch doctor back in the day , because people died from those injuries is that ?
Speaker 3is that from ? Is that from the lack of knowledge of god , though , is . Is that what that is ? Because you , somebody could say , oh , you're just , you're , you're a witchcraft worker , while another good person could say you're , you're , you're an angel from heaven . You , you're , you're one of God's angels .
Speaker 1What's the difference ? I just took something that the real God not me put on Earth and administered it to you in a certain form that healed your ailment .
Speaker 3But what I'm saying is they don't understand that , they just understand it as witchcraft .
Speaker 1Exactly you get what I'm saying Exactly , so OK so maybe maybe the Air Force pilots that are like oh we , we saw a ufo and it moves way better than what we've seen . Maybe it's just technology , maybe the pictures of the guy at at a boxing fight in the 70s that looked like he was from the 2000s , wearing shit that wasn't that looked like he was from the 2000s , wearing shit that wasn't made back in the 70s and and like dressing in peculiar ways and holding a cell phone and shit .
Speaker 1It just makes me think like so if , if they were in the future and they figured out how to come back , of course we're going to think they're sorcerers . If you don't understand it , you're open to any explanation .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1I guess so .
Speaker 3I guess so .
Speaker 1You know , and like Connor said , the questions get Even trickier when you start to realize that the stuff that we can see and prove is not by accident . One or two things is a coincidence .
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying , man .
Speaker 1Everything is not a coincidence the fact that trees grow .
Speaker 2Look at the colors on the trees , bro . Look at the colors , how they change .
Speaker 3Not only that , bro the oxygen that they give off for us to breathe , for us to breathe . Think about that .
Speaker 1They give off oxygen for us , for us to breathe , but other animals also eat them in order for them to like . You know , they're naturally pruned shout out trees they're also . They're also like um habitat . They're also like homes for like gophers and shit like that . But then the animals that are feeding off the trees .
Speaker 2The firewood too , firewood that heat people's houses .
Speaker 1The animals that are feeding off the trees die and , in turn , nourish the trees to keep giving us oxygen and shit . It's too perfect to be an accident , like all those things adapted , like the trees and the plants . The plants adapted To being trampled all the time and you know it's .
Speaker 1One or two things is a coincidence . A lot of things , all these things we just mentioned and how everything is intertwined . It's not a coincidence , you know . So there is something out there . The question is , what is it ? And then , when you start to fall down that rabbit hole , you start to like what is a lie and what is not like . Is bigfoot a thing ? What was goliath related to bigfoot ? Was he a big-ass motherfucker like as big as bigfoot was , you know ? Were there dragons ? There's reference to dragons in the bible . Every civilization has dragons . What was a dragon ? Was a dragon just a flying reptile ?
Speaker 2I think , no , I think half man , I think I think a dragon was , uh , probably like a , like a dinosaur of some sort yeah , probably like like a very like very old creature . I feel like it's a dinosaur of some sort .
Speaker 3Yeah , I don't have any examples off the top of my head , but if you read the Bible or any old books like that , they explain things differently than we would today . You know what I'm saying . For example , I don't know if you guys have ever seen the show Vikings , but these Vikings , they'll go around and conquer different lands .
Speaker 2I already don't like it .
Speaker 3They'll go to lands where people are just shorter than them . It's just naturally that they're shorter than them and instead of explaining these Vikings as tall and big , they explain them as giants . These giants invaded us , when really these people who are on this land already are only like five foot seven , on average five foot eight , and these Vikings that came in are average six foot plus . You know what I'm ?
Speaker 1saying Sidebar .
Speaker 3So I think it's like the way vocabulary has changed and stuff as well , that when they describe things in those old books it's different than what we would describe them today .
Speaker 1So I think that kind of causes that gray area too and to , to , to kind of like , add to your point or parlay off of that . First of all , if I was getting rated by a bunch of people that look like Jason Momoa , with blonde hair and blue eyes , and a bunch of Scarlett Johansson's , I wouldn't have a real problem with that . I'm saying so . You were going to rape me , scarlett . How about I just hide on this , covered on this bed of roses right here so you could do your thing ? Anyway , that's sidebar , but I'm just . I'm saying this , the people that went other places .
Speaker 1I feel like there was an exchange of a lot of information and technology and interbreeding there . I feel like you wouldn't be as shocked by a six footer that looks just bigger than you but has your same anatomy and all that type of stuff as you would be by , like I don't know , a Neanderthal . Like I mean , they had their stories that human beings and Neanderthals lived together , but it wasn't peaceful . Like they ate us , they ate each other . They were like enough of a different breed of human . They were stronger , they were faster , they were bigger , more durable than us , and there was , you know , but like .
Speaker 1My other thing is how much of the writing Sounds like a video game . How much of the writing are we thinking is like parables ? I will tell you this writing is not very old . You know what I'm saying . Writing is not very old . So those first people that were writing things , that discovered ways of recording shit and a way of writing that I could write and you could read , you know I'm saying like , those people didn't go straight into like hyperbole and like similes and like literally they weren't writing parables right away . I have a feeling that the older the text you find is actually what these people saw .
Speaker 3That's . I feel like that's kind of where I disagree a little bit because , like I'm saying , somebody like in the Vikings time , they don't know anything about genetics , they don't have , they're not studying genetics and stuff like that . If they are growing up with somebody in their land and they're bigger and stronger , they would describe them as just a giant . Just because , not not because that's what they are , that's exactly what they are , but that's because that's what their vocabulary and what their expansion of knowledge is . For that time , if you think about it , humans , expansion of knowledge has grown so goddamn much from calling tall people giants to having ai today .
Speaker 1Now what I'm saying is what ? What I'm saying by that is humans
Survival in Ancient Times
Speaker 1. Probably they wouldn't have looked at slightly bigger , or even , let's say , half as bigger , if I was four foot and somebody was out here six foot . He , he's half on top of what . How tall I am ? He's half as tall as that more . You know what I'm saying . So looking at a human being that was six foot when I'm four foot wouldn't be alarming back in the day . You know why .
Speaker 3How far back in the day . No , no , no , no .
Speaker 1You know why , though ? Because there was also other things that were more alarming . There was saber tooths and like uh , what mammoths and freaking flying shit that was bigger than you like shit . Today , we have a bird that stands four feet and the wingspan is like seven feet . Now imagine how much bigger shit was back in the day . Human beings wouldn't have been terrified of bigger human beings . You would have had to be doing something truly mystical To be terrifying , or for somebody to look at you like a god or demigod . You would have to be more than just bigger than me . Okay , so what ? Like ? There's a cat bigger than you in the jungle that we see and we hide from , even though we kind of live with them , and dinosaurs and shit . So I feel , based on what you said , that it wouldn't have been scary to the early humans . If that's what it was , you would have to be doing some shit like flying a plane or conquering their land .
Speaker 3That's scary enough .
Speaker 1Conquering their land , taking over their kingdom yeah , but they wouldn't have said gods came and conquer their land . They would have said no these other people giants .
Speaker 3The way that they describe them , bro that's what I'm saying is it's it's their expansion of knowledge . It wasn't as expanded as it is now , so that the way they describe things is different than the way we would describe things now . The reason you're saying that you wouldn't be scared is because of what you know in today's age and the knowledge we have in today's age . Back then they didn't have that same type of knowledge . If you think about it , some of these people well , a lot of them never , ever , got to travel , unless they were , like people who spread the word of God in the early , early , early times , or people who are just . I guess back then they would be Vikings , but today we would call them pirates . You know what I mean . Like , unless you were those kinds of people who your job and your life being is to travel , you don't know anything but what you know there .
Speaker 1And then Okay , well , let me tell . Let me , I'm putting some things into into Chad , gpt , so I'll tell you guys a story . Yeah , let's hear it . A chat , gpt , so I'll tell you you guys a story yeah .
Speaker 1Chat , gpt . Hold on , that was quick . Yeah , it came up with the story already . I put in write a story about humans and Neanderthals co coexisting . I just put it and , uh , hold on , it asked me . It asked me what time period would I like ? So I say in medieval times like that , that would be no medieval is what we're talking about in like yeah , that'd be like 600 ad in like 800 ad in the time period where dinosaurs lived . Hold on , I'll type that . Okay , here's a story .
Speaker 3This is a story , though Is it telling you facts ?
Speaker 1No , I said . I said make a story of how it will be for parameters Okay . So I put in you're a young man , you live in a small village because that's I'm assuming that's how they would have lived , right ? You're a young man , you live in a small village because I'm assuming that's how they would have lived , right ? You're a young man , you live in a small village , all right . It asked me if there was other villages or not and I said there were other villages .
Speaker 1It said okay so you're sitting by a fire . I'm just paraphrasing . I'm not reading per se You're sitting by a fire . I'm just paraphrasing . I'm not reading per se You're sitting by a fire and you are about 16 years old . I think that would be a grown up back then .
Speaker 3Yeah , for sure .
Speaker 1I think because you're pretty much old enough to do everything .
Speaker 3Yeah , and back then their lifespan was probably to like 40 years old . 50 years old , that's considered an old person .
Speaker 1Yeah , an elder so you're , you're 16 , you're sitting around the fire and the village elder is telling a story . It's a scary story . It's a story that , in your opinion , because you're older you're older now you felt like this story was a story that they told the younger kids in your village to keep them from wandering off . It's a story about beasts in the , in in the , in the woods , that are stronger and faster and they , they're ferocious , they're bigger than you , they , they , you , they have teeth and they eat humans and all that type of stuff . But you have never personally seen them in your life . But something about the way he's telling the story lets you know that it's not actually just a story . Like this happened . And all of a sudden he stops , like he hears something and all the other elders in your village start to grab sticks and stuff and it's getting closer and now you can start to feel that , okay , what it is , it's not small . You can tell by the sounds you're hearing and the brushing against trees and foliage and cracking sticks that this is something that's bigger than you and everybody's terrified for a second , and then some of the people in the village that are not around the fire start to scream . All you hear is a scream and the scream is a female , but it's getting closer and then all of a sudden a male starts to yell as well , and he's ferocious and looks like he's trying to defend whatever was screaming . But after a while there's a gurgle and they both stop . So you kind of , and you hear that they're killed and these things . All of a sudden you see a big shadow through the fire and when the thing finally shows up , it has canines , it looks like you , but not . It's short , it's . It's really broad , it's stocky , it has muscles and like animal teeth . And people start getting killed . Your uncle gets snatched , his neck gets broken and right before he dies he looks at you and the last thing he says , as you see the fire glowing in his eyes , is run the cave . So you start running . Okay , you're dipping , you're running with other people and y'all finally make it away and you realize that you're one of the only people in your village to survive . End of story
Exploring Ancient Mysteries and Technology
Speaker 1story .
Speaker 1So , based on everything that's been recorded and everything that chat GPT knows , it feels like the most likely interaction between man and Neanderthals would have been like this . Now think about other species of humans . Where did they go . If there was really homo sapiens and homo erectus and all these other things , like , what was the relationship between them ? Were we just the last um , um two-legged creatures to survive ? You know what I mean .
Speaker 1Like this is the things I think that we should be trying to figure out using ai or whatever it is that we have access to . It's . It's wild to think about . And when you tie that , where did religion come into that ? You know , because we're finding fossils and stuff and we're saying or is this , is this all part of the religion thing ? Like you know what I mean . Like we say , christians believe that the beginning of the world was God saying let there be light . So was this dinosaurs came after that . We found we found whole t-rexes . There's a mammoth that they're trying to dna , that they're trying to clone right now in antarctica are you saying like adam and eve lived with dinosaurs , kind of thing ?
Speaker 3or like dinosaurs came ?
Speaker 1after adam and eve . Yeah , like , where does the Bible fit into this ? Did God create people and just let them be for a few million years ? Because a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years . You know what I mean ? That's what it says in the Bible that we don't perceive time the same , the same way God does . So when he says seven days , is it 7,000 years . You know , did it take all that ?
Speaker 3Four million Four millions of years .
Speaker 1How long did it actually take for God to create us ?
Speaker 3Maybe that's something we'll never know because , like you said , we can't perceive time the same as God .
Speaker 1Also , we know that by our DNA , a brother and a sister cannot have kids . So where did Cain's people come from ? Where did Abel's people come from ?
Speaker 3Were they other people ?
Speaker 1Did God create other people , or was it their sisters or what was it ? So there's a lot of unanswerable questions and a lot of wild , freaking questions like , for example , apparently the knights , templar , uh , the religious um army that was back in the day when there was like a king of Spain , and all this Apparently they found the place where Jesus was buried and they found Jesus , mary and Joseph , right , the Holy Family . But then they also found other kids that Joseph had with Mary , kids that Joseph had with Mary , and apparently Jesus had kids . Like there's a bunch of wild stuff . So is it like a video game ? Was Peter one of Jesus homeboys , you know that kind of just wrote the story of Jesus and left out his girl ?
Speaker 3How do they know they were there ? How do they know they were Jesus's kids ? How did how were they able to get DNA and stuff out of that , though ? Good question how do they know they were their kid ? How do they know they were Jesus's kids ? How did how were ?
Speaker 1they able to get DNA and stuff out of that though ? Good question how do they know it ?
Speaker 3was it Cause it could have just been people that were there with Jesus at the time and they died next to him .
Speaker 1How do they even know it was Jesus ?
Speaker 3Well , I mean , if you're going to go around , you're going to tell somebody your name's not temi .
Speaker 1No , I'm just saying , like , you know what I mean . Like , hey , my name is jesus . Like , why would I lie about that ? Because jesus was him . It's like if somebody , if you go to china , right , they never heard a manny pacquiao , they don't know shit about manny pacquiao you could tell them yeah , I'm , I'm little pacquiao , you know I'm saying manny's my daddy . Know what I'm saying ? Man , he's my daddy . You know what I'm saying and they might believe you . You know what I'm saying . Like , at 5'11" , 6 foot , I might be tall enough for a motherfucking Asia to think I'm in the NBA .
Speaker 3Yeah , but it's also like the miracles he's worked , like , let's say , by this time you're 30 years old and you're 30 years , you've never seen a miracle worked . And then this guy well , I would say Jesus . But for your sake , let's say yeah , I'm , I'm , I'm little Manny , I'm little Pacquiao over here and I'm working this miracle . Okay , yeah , maybe he is , maybe , maybe , yeah , he is Lil Pacquiao , because I ain't never seen anybody in my 30 years of whole living do any kind of miracle work like this person .
Speaker 1Yeah , but like okay , I would think if somebody was as great as Jesus , like people would know where you were buried , like , for example , if Elon Musk died and it wasn't really public knowledge , like where he was buried and shit .
Speaker 3I'm sure future people will be able to find where he is , yeah , but that's the thing , though . Dude is like today , everything's recorded with a camera , Everything's recorded on Twitter , Everything's recorded on Instagram , this and that . Back then , everything was recorded by books , by being written down , by doing that . That's how they recorded their stuff , so it's just a different timeline , but it's the same . It's like oh , I saw this . I have to figure out a way to keep this in my memory and pass it down .
Speaker 3Let him speak . So , instead of how we would today record shit with our phones , they're recording stuff , writing it down . Oh , today I met this man . He said his name was Jesus . He performed this miracle . I've never seen that before . The next day that I met him , he performed another miracle on another human being .
Speaker 1Here's the thing about that . Here's the thing about , uh , about miracles is like , those are spectacular things . That's what will be recorded , like you said , you know , but I guarantee you that somebody's great , great , great great grandson , who was from Nazareth , like Jesus and them , that , hundreds of years later , his family , you know , you know , like they know these things Like oh yeah , jesus was my uncle's , auntie's , neighbor's daughter's son and yeah , man , he was killed by the what's the name ?
Speaker 1And oh yeah , this is where he was buried . Now I'll take you there for real , like I'm guessing that that's how you find these type of things . You ask enough people and you get to the places and put enough things together and you'll be able to be like oh yeah , this is this is it .
Speaker 3This is really it . I mean , like today , if you think about it , the technology , everybody well , now , with ai being a thing , like nobody knows what's real until they go there themselves and witness that kind of shit , like it's . It's the same . When you read these , when you read these recordings that were written down , nobody believes it . At first , like nah , that's just , that's just a tall tale , it's just a story . And then , like you said , oh , I'll really take you there . Boom , that's real . It's almost like the same thing .
Speaker 1It's just a different time and a different time in history and also I think I think we're wrong to imagine , to say like it's a fact , that these motherfuckers didn't have technology where they would have been able to tell whose bones were there . You know what I mean ? Because there's still things from back in the day that we cannot explain Even shit . That's not really mystical . We can't tell why they made the pyramids , not to talk of who before we even talk about who built it or how it was used . Was it a power plant ? How I mean ? How did it work ? We don't know none of that shit . So how would we know that they didn't have the technology ? Or maybe that was a different method ?
Speaker 1These are people that knew about constellations way before . You know what I'm saying . Think about how far a telescope was , you know ? So how do they know about constellations ? How did they certain things we can't explain , so we don't know that . They didn't know about dna . It's just all a big fucking mystery . And then you tie that back in with the fact that there's a bunch of stuff that we're still being deceived about today . You wonder , like what does that ? I mean ? How ? How do all these things tie together ?
Speaker 3I don't know . It's just the works of God , In my opinion it's all wild All .
Speaker 2I'm saying is I think .
Speaker 1I think the end of the story is be kind to each other , be good to each other . We don't know if it's real . If you live a good life and Jesus is not real , what do you actually lose ? Be kind to each other , be good to each other . We don't know if it's real .
Speaker 2If you live a good life and Jesus is not real .
Speaker 2What do you actually lose ? In the sense you're speaking from nothing , but uh , like I said , I'm still going to stand very thoroughly there , there , there , there . There has to be the , the , the , this god that I speak of , the guy that I , the this god that I serve , that he , that it in my eyes , it just has to be real , for the creations that I've seen with my own two eyes , it's just , it's , it's . Nothing else could describe it but that and that's . That's my . I know , I know it's my opinion , but , like I said , I , I I've seen , I've seen so many real life examples and like even if you catch a fish , dude , have you looked at the detail on a fish ?
Speaker 2yeah like dude it's like anything like , like anything like dude you just look at , even like a frog , bro , like the designs on a frog , or just anything like that . That doesn't just .
Speaker 3That doesn't just come boom no dude like getting and the ravens just missed the field goal .
Speaker 2The ravens just missed the field goal to take the lead , jim harbaugh oh disheartening . I got a lot of time left , though , but that's the point
Bold Predictions for Vikings' Success
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Speaker 3Do you place bets on games ?
Speaker 2no , I live in minnesota . Shout out , minnesota . They make sports betting illegal , saving my money . Shout out , I can make some money sometime probably , but a lot of times people that bet don't always do the complete best .
Speaker 1I think he's worried . He's talking about the Ravens being down because I would rather they beat the Eagles , you know , and put more losses on NFC North teams . I'm just saying you said , is he going for the Eagles ? I don't think he's going for the Eagles as much as he's going . Or the Ravens even . I think he's going .
Speaker 2I'm not going to lie . I mean with the Ravens not even really being a problem for us until the— when would—we wouldn't have to see the Ravens until the bowl , right ?
Speaker 1Oh , you guys , you guys ain't going to see the Ravens at all . The Vikings , might you know , in the Super Bowl .
Speaker 2I love how you say this . When we're live , just so then eventually I could just— I even go by the time stamp . I have notes of time stamps of you saying certain things and it's funny to me because a lot of times I'm going to put it out there again thoroughly . A lot of takes you've had this year are a little rocky , we could say , and that's normal for a Vikings fan , so I'll give it to you . I usually let them slide because the mind of mind of a vikings fan tends to wander . I mean , it's just it , the , the , what should I say ? The false hope . I mean , I agree , being a fan , that's how it should be . You should agree , you should hope that something's gonna happen .
Speaker 3But if you think this season's gonna end one day , baby if you think this season's gonna end any other way than what I said from the first time we recorded .
Speaker 1You're crazy , but I will say our predictions are pretty good uh , I think my my biggest prediction , my most important prediction , is still going to happen . Skull , I need one more win to to get my 40 off of draft kings . I bet two dollars that the vikings were gonna have um , no , it wasn't two , it was five . I bet five bucks that the vikings were gonna have 11 , plus wins back that's a good bet .
Speaker 2That's a good bet .
Speaker 1No , I'm just saying I did this bet when I did it .
Speaker 2You see , this is the how we talked about this , though I we , that was your prediction , which which I'll give you credit on .
Speaker 1That was my prediction before the preseason Make a postseason bet and be confident on it . That's what I want you to do .
Speaker 2Right now , while we're live on air , go on your phone since I know you're in a state that is legal to sports bet and make yourself a postseason Vikings bet with all your confidence . Right there , I've made all the bets . I , right there , I've made all the stuff like I've made all the positive .
Speaker 1No , let me tell you , let's hear it , let's hear I've made all the positive vikings bets that I can for for the future let me show you .
Speaker 2I'll show you right now no , no , and I will say I , I I seen that since I had , since I had added you or whatever on uh social media . I seen your bet , I seen your bet that you did , you had , you had some good bets . But like I said , but like I said , I want you said I haven't seen one single postseason one . Do one about how much playoff wins they get , or how far they get or shot along them lines .
Speaker 1I want one of them bets . Let me tell you the bets I've made , and then we'll be .
Speaker 2If they ain't talking postseason , I want to hear them . But at the same time , it's just going to You've been very well and I've given you credit on that . I gonna just I , I you've been very well and I've given you credit on that . I've even said something before about you , but uh , this one I'm not what I will say is you did not give me enough credit on my predictions , because we're sitting at nine right now and I don't even I don't remember your prediction .
Speaker 1But uh , we're we we got several weeks to go . My prediction was that at the end of the season , the packers are gonna have a worse record than the Vikings . I don't really care what they're .
Speaker 2That's not your prediction . Your prediction is what we predicted for the when we were going through the prediction .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , that's your prediction 11 wins and I bet that before we ever took the field for preseason .
Speaker 2I've got to go through it again . I've got to go through it again . I got to go through it again . I got to look through it .
Speaker 1I bet over 7.5 sacks for Dallas Turner I'm not going to get that , probably . I bet over 3,500 yards for Sam Darnold Definitely going to get that . I bet over 10.5 wins for the Vikings I'm definitely going to get that . I also bet that the Vikings are going to A win . The division .
Speaker 2Not happening .
Speaker 1Win the conference Not happening and appear in the Super Bowl Now .
Speaker 2Wow . Those three horrible bets in a row , my God .
Speaker 1Now those last three . Oh , even better , it's a parlay , it's a parlay .
Speaker 2That's the wrong order . You saved the best for last .
Speaker 1That it's a parlay , that's . That's the wrong order . You save the best for last .
Speaker 2That's the worst . Here's the thing . It's a parlay . Now let me tell you what I really think . Let me tell you what I really think I call that toast being realistic and stepping out of my purple haze for a little bit .
Speaker 1What do I really think ? It's even worse now , I believe , based on the vikings being 10 and two , shout out to the Minnesota fighting Vikings . I'm doing my little Jamaican alarms right now .
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying You're the only one shouting the Vikings out .
Speaker 1We can't hear it , but I will say Vikings , based on the fact that we're 10 and two right now , I'm going to finish the season Are going to finish the season . Are y'all listening ? Do I have everybody ?
Speaker 2Wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait . Why are you All right , all right ? You asked me .
Speaker 1Vikings are going to finish the season with 13 wins .
Speaker 2Wait a minute , wait a minute , wait a minute . You think Kirko ain't going to come and put on the show 13 plus wins .
Speaker 1Wait , let me finish .
Speaker 2After this embarrassment , after four interceptions , you don't think Kirko is going to lock in and come put on the show . He can't lose , he can't lose . He didn't sign up for this , just watch .
Speaker 1I'm going to say that on there right now , the Vikings are going to put a hurting On Atlanta next week and then we're going to beat the Bears the next week Because they can't win . Seattle might be a problem , but we're going to come out With a close .
Speaker 2Listen to what he says next week .
Speaker 1We are going to sweep the Green Bay football Packers this year . Anybody ? Hey , let me say it one time Shots fired , shots fired , yeah , yeah , we're going to beat the Packers at Minnesota .
Debate Over NFC North Predictions
Speaker 1Okay , and the game between the Lions and the game between the Lions and the Vikings will probably be the most important game of the year between the what . I mean between the Lions and the Vikings will be the most important game of the year because it will be for the division title not agreeing and , and those are my crazy , wild , wildly speculative crazy , crazy is right , crazy is definitely right I mean , where am I wrong ?
Speaker 213 wins this is this this is where we're gonna be good this is , this is where we're sitting . This is this is where we're sitting . So the falcons , I'm just gonna . So the Falcons , I'm just going to put the bull . Like I said , the Vikings obviously got a good D . They got some shit rolling . But Kirko , I'm going to put it right on . Aaron Kirko's going to come right on in . He knows that stadium way too well . They probably got a locker just for him .
Speaker 1Nah man , that motherfucker found Magic City . He found King of Diamonds in Atlanta . A locker just for him . That motherfucker found . That motherfucker found magic city . He found king of diamonds in atlanta . He's too busy with the strippers , he's not gonna do no way .
Speaker 2This way , he's gonna walk into minneapolis and handle some business . The bears and vikings is gonna be a very , very close game and they got a new coach . So , not a new coach , but just a step up , and I think it's gonna change the whole momentum of that team and , uh , I think they're going to show up . They're going to show up . So , uh see , the vikings are still sitting at 10 wins I'm saying right , right there , after the focus it bears and then they're going to win at the seahawks that's my prediction and then they're going to lose to the packers and lose to the lions and then they're going to and then they're going to be .
Speaker 1I said 11 wins and you had them at like 9 .
Speaker 2No , because you said something along the lines of you being surprised of how much credit I was giving the Vikings , but I still said the Packers are going to have more wins . So that's where I definitely said the same thing .
Speaker 1I might have said something a little different on the last take , with your one knee having no groin , no groin having oh no , oh no , he's , he's , he's healthy man , he's healthy , he's healthy .
Speaker 2What , what ? What are these ? These last two weeks ? I mean , yeah , josh jacobs has got a lot of love , but jordan love's also been handling business . He hasn't thrown an interception . That is a very good statistic for jordan love , because he's thrown a lot of interceptions . This is Toyotathon . You ever heard of that ? You ever heard of the Toyotathon , jordan Love .
Speaker 1The what Jordan Love .
Speaker 2The Toyotathon Jordan Love when the Toyotathon deal's going on .
Speaker 1Oh , that's when he's practicing to be a salesman after he loses , no way . That's when he's handling business .
Speaker 2What you mean losing Come again losing what you come again . Look coming what ? What loss of ours recently do you have to talk about ? Let me guess , detroit . Oh yeah , what happened ? Oh yeah , oh yeah , so we're , we're good on that .
Speaker 1and then , uh , we handled oh yeah , and there's no excuses for that wait , oh yeah , like we had the same type of boys .
Speaker 2The boys had so much to say in Miami about oh , we're not worried about the cold . Yeah , you could really tell they was cold . We , we handled Miami . Miami was on this big rush . Look what happened . We handled them . Easy , easy , bro , we're on a roll . Man , just continue to make your predictions at 13 wins or whatever bullshit you're talking . It ain't going to be the Vikings winning the North . I'm telling you that . I'm telling you that . I've said that several times . It's Lions or Packers . I've put that on there and I'm going to say it several times it's Lions or Packers .
Speaker 1No , I've told you too .
Speaker 2This is a different time of year . This is a different time of year . This is a different , different time of year , and I said this from the beginning .
Speaker 1Remember what I said my season starts after week eight and that's like the second half of the season is where you , where you lock in , where you lock in , so we'll , we'll see we'll see who's locked in .
Speaker 2Are you guys listening to this packer fan shit ? The the week , the week , uh , ah , this , this shit's crazy to me . I can't believe that the you're back in that purple haze man , that purple , that little purple haze is he stays , he stays I there . I know he always says he stays in that purple haze . And I see it , I really see it . It's the delusion man . Like what success do you see coming from Sam Darnold going to the big dance ? Like tell me honestly , right now , you think Darnold's dancing in the big dance .
Speaker 1Yeah , absolutely .
Speaker 2I could laugh for days at that .
Speaker 1Let me ask you a question let me ask you a question what's the best team in the league right now ?
Speaker 2it's a really big toss up for me . I'd say there's what team has the best record what team has ? I mean , isn't it the Chiefs ?
Speaker 1Yep , what team has the worst record ? What's the worst team in the league right now ?
Speaker 2Who has ? Isn't it the team with two wins correct ?
Speaker 1Who is it ? I want you to say who it is . There's a point I'm making .
Speaker 2Raiders .
Speaker 1Nope .
Speaker 2Yeah , the Raiders have two wins . I know they do .
Speaker 1How many wins do the Carolina Panthers have ?
Speaker 2Three and eight , so yeah .
Speaker 1I was still right .
Speaker 2So come on , Tenley , I was still right .
Speaker 1The Chiefs barely beat the three and eight in . Yeah , I was still right . So so come on , tell me , the cheese was still right . Barely beat the three and eight in a very controversial ending . Barely beat the three and eight panthers , so it's any week , it's any , it's any week okay , week , any ball club okay . So how are you so confident ?
Speaker 2because I've seen what's going on and when certain things connect and all of our dots are aligning and we're not even fully healthy , like what I keep telling you . If jair could stay healthy , our defense is even better than it already is . We have a lot of . We have a lot of . We have , like there's so much on him . He's a team captain . When he's sitting on the sidelines , the energy just isn't there . And we're still red hot . Man , we're still red hot . We're , we're still red hot . We're missing . Romeo Dobbs . Jordan Love loves Romeo Dobbs . Romeo , thy Romeo man , he always comes in clutch .
Speaker 1Ask me how much of a fuck I give about your injured players .
Speaker 2You shouldn't .
Speaker 1You shouldn't give a damn , but you're going to know , you're going to know . Let me tell you why . Let me tell you why we don't have Christian Derrissaw . I , I'm telling you , a Vikings player , died this offseason , You're telling me .
Speaker 2are you delusional enough to say you're not a slight bit worried about the Packers at all ?
Speaker 1No , I'm not .
Speaker 2I'm honestly not Okay , man , that's just delusional ?
Speaker 1I'm honestly not . I'm scared of a quarterback who has only not thrown interceptions in one game this year . That's who I'm scared of .
Speaker 2My buddy from school .
Speaker 1That's a big , big , big vikings man he just pulled out . He wants me to be scared , winston . He wants me to be scared of a . I'm not saying scared .
Speaker 2I'm not saying scared , but you're worried .
Speaker 1Worried about a quarter credit who hasn't given any credit who hasn't played multiple games this season but leads the league in interceptions . Wow , I'm fucking terrified bro .
Speaker 2It's because he , bro , look at , look at . So you give brett farb credit , look at me , look how many interceptions he would have in certain statistics . It's the mentality , it's the , it's the shooter mentality . Bro , he's trying to get the ball there . We win games . What are you trying to say ? Who gives a shit if you're winning games ? That's what you keep saying . You always say how this and this and this , and then you try to bring up statistics like that . That don't matter .
Speaker 2When we're winning ball games , man , like , come on , he's , he's eating , bro , he's eating when he needs to eat . He's a shooter , bro . It's because he throws so much he he has , he has so many , he has so many . Like bro , he throws so many times a game . Like it's obviously going to happen . Like I don't give a shit what you say . If you're winning ball games , it can happen . If it's not , if it's not crucial and your defense is handling business and certain things are happening , you're winning ballgames and you correct it . By now it's been two games . Correct me if I'm wrong . Maybe zero . Because like , come on now , like that's a big statistic for him and when you want to correct it , it's this time of the year .
Speaker 1And you know that Was it crucial against the Vikings .
Speaker 2Bro , that was week two . I love when Vikings fans bring that up .
Speaker 1Does week two count they ?
Speaker 2were so fresh .
Speaker 1It's going to be a different game . I'm telling you and we still almost came back the L from week two , does it count or does ?
Speaker 2it not ? Oh , the L , I like the L there from week two , because this one's going to hit a lot better , I'm telling you , and that week two you're going to be like what the fuck about week two we ? Eating . Yeah , so I don't . Yeah , that's what I love . Live on that week too . Live on that week too . We're gonna eat , man , we're gonna eat we're gonna eat in minneapolis too .
Speaker 1I'm living on the fact that this is a team that has proved that all three phases can can win the game . This is a team that's won a game based on big plays made by all three phases . We we haven't either .
Speaker 2We haven't , either . We totally haven't done that either . Come on , we've had so much adversity that we've overcame . We're sitting at nine wins just because the Vikings have ten wins . Still , there's a lot of season left to be played . Yes , you're sitting higher right now , but all I'm going to say is there's a lot of first off , there's a lot of NFC North football to be played . There's a lot of game to be played . So all I'm going to say is there's a lot of , there's a lot of . There's a lot of talk that I think , is going to be silent in a few weeks . That's all I'm saying .
Speaker 1Okay , I may ask you this One last question before we get off of football and save it for the Kings in the North podcast . Name one player that you could remove From the Vikings that you're sure Will tank the season .
Speaker 2One player that I could remove . That , I think , would for sure tank the season .
Speaker 3Tell me , though you gotta name one player Off the Packers . Oh yeah , I intend to . I intend to name like five of them .
Speaker 2Five , that would be irrelevant .
Speaker 1No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no .
Speaker 2Five makes it worse .
Speaker 1No , five different scenarios Five different scenarios where you take one player out and it probably cripples , Okay two .
Speaker 2I want to hear your take first , because you coming out boldly right now and saying five . He asked you first you got to take it first you did , but saying five is insane One player . So this is something I honestly have to look up , because I don't even know the answer to this who is their backup quarterback ?
Speaker 1I hate the Packers so much . I know all their players and I'm ready to eliminate any of them .
Speaker 3Sounds like you're a fan , temi . I hate the Packers so much .
Speaker 2I know all their players and I'm ready to eliminate any of them . Motherfuckers . Sounds like you're a fan , temi Nope , right , right , I'm just kidding , I'm just playing .
Speaker 1No , no , this is me being the best Packer hater I can , I need to know what I'm hating . No , no , I respect it , because I also do know a lot about them .
Speaker 2I respect that I know a lot about them too , I will say so .
Speaker 3I can't really fully laugh at that , but honestly , though , shout out to our fans that listen regularly , because I know there's both packers and vikings fans that listen a lot . So if you guys are listening right now and you guys are getting hyped about their debates that they got , go listen to kings of the north , podcast brett . I'm vaping I .
Speaker 2I would say I would say so . This is , this is what I'm going to say . This is where I'll give McConnell a little bit of credit is . I'll say it like this just because it's super funny to me and I've thought of this pretty deeply . So he's very good at coaching and coordinating these quarterbacks to become
NFL Playoff Debate and Predictions
Speaker 2great . But it's like a Jeremy Lin season , it's like a Jeremy Lin effect . It doesn't last , man , it doesn't last it , it doesn't last , it never prolongs . They never get far in the playoffs . It's like a what do you call that thing ? It's repeating and repeating , and repeating , and repeating and repeating . It's a continuous cycle and a lot of times I think Pemi he doesn't ever admit it , but he deep down knows that it's not complete and it's going to happen . He's going to be in the purple haze and just very sad , very , very sad . It'll happen . Then we'll talk and you guys will just tell the difference in confidence .
Speaker 1You like how he just Donald Trumped that question ? He won't .
Speaker 3just I was going to say it one more time Just say who your one player is from the Vikings . I said it . I said it . Yeah , say it one more time , just one more time .
Speaker 2Sam Darnold , and then I was explaining why . Because McConnell conditions these quarterbacks to be good . I mean , what's his name ? Darnold's had a good season but , like I said , they don't prolong , they don't last , and it always seems to be a crash down and a choke when that big stage finally comes rolling around . And , like I said , I think this is just another one of these . If anybody , any Vikings fans delusional if they think Sam Darnold's won a Super Bowl and I'll stand ten toes on that , okay before I rebuttal that , I want to say that all Vikings fans know anybody that's more than a casual fan .
Speaker 1We're playing with house money right now . Baby , this is that free draft money . That motherfucking you want to talk about money ? This is that free draft money .
Speaker 2Look at what we're spending on our receiver corps . No , no , no .
Speaker 1What I'm saying is . I'll answer that . What I'm saying is I'll answer that what . I'm saying is we're overachieving right now ?
Speaker 2This was supposed to be . You're paying for the gritty . You're paying for the gritty . One extra win .
Speaker 1You're paying for the gritty , first of all that's a mute point , because anybody in the NFL , including the Packers , will pay Justin Jefferson what he's making right now . He's the best receiver . I know .
Speaker 2but you've got to realize , dude , that's what I'm saying . You're not correlating the two points , the money we're paying and the success we're having . Correlate that , it's brilliant .
Speaker 1I can say the same thing about the Packers . It's brilliant the money we're paying for a quarterback and the production we're getting wow , compared to you guys , he's been insanely productive this year Insanely .
Speaker 2Look at our record nine wins . How do you consider that not productive ? Yes , malik Willis has been . He got two full wins himself and he came in when Jordan Love came down . But nine wins this early like , with still this many games to go , coaches , teams , pay big money for that . I don't care what you say , I don't care , like you guys . Look what you're paying JJ . I mean , it's pretty much the same scale . Like , yes , he does really good things for you , but he also has shutout games where he gets locked the fuck up . So don't think those don't exist either .
Speaker 1And that's the point I'm making . That's where the rest of the team comes in , that's where the running that's where the rest of our team comes in .
Speaker 2That's where that like what do you mean that we got josh jacobs ? He , he's not on the crazy contract . Like we don't . Like we got , we got a lot of talent . And what's josh jacobs in the league ? Oh yeah , he's been in the top five for as far as I can look back in stats , he's obviously with Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley in the league . There's no talks of him being the best , but I'm saying he is definitely better than Aaron Jones . Definitely he is a way better fit in Green Bay , way better . I like , like him way more . Other than his energy for the community and his energy to the fans .
Speaker 1Aaron jones is way better , but josh jacobs is is is unreal skill wise well , that was gonna be my guy if you take josh jacobs off of the field , it would change a lot .
Speaker 2I , I can , I can , I can admit that , but that that's when we , that's when we're going to the ifs and this and this and this and we're not at the ifs . But , like you said , we are talking to the ifs of if you take a player off the team . I agree , but I also don't agree to a certain extent , because our backs , when they come in , they're handling business . The guys that stand behind Josh Jacobs are handling business . We actually have a run game .
Speaker 1We have a run game too . Look , there's no way .
Speaker 2Saquon just got another touchdown . That is good for my fantasy , but damn , they're handling Baltimore right now .
Speaker 1There's no way to have this Vikings , Packers , Bears , NFC North argument without the actual games being played .
Speaker 2I agree , I agree , I agree and I always say that that's what I actually have said . I've even said that on our podcast several times . I like the second half of the game , I like the games to be played and then and then it talks and I've said that several times and and and a lot of things I've said . I've walked and , and , and I'm not I'm not discrediting you as well a lot of things you have definitely have , uh , I give you credit on a lot of things , but this , this second , this rest of the season is is a rocky , rocky road . I'm thinking it's . It's going to be a toss-up , week by week uh , I think the vikings .
Speaker 1this is the easier part of the Vikings schedule , besides the , if you take away if you take away .
Speaker 2If you take away , there's the , there's the purple haze . Very delusional Cause , I'll admit , our schedule is is is going to be good games and he , he goes to say easy , wow .
Speaker 1Wow , what I mean by that ? What I mean by that is the unknown at the beginning of the season and the good teams we were playing at the beginning of the season , and knowing that we have 10 wins now , a lot of the pressure is off of the Vikings . We could probably lose out and still make it .
Speaker 2He says a lot of the pressure is off . You said lose out . And then what ? I'm sorry I didn't let you finish your sentence , but lose out . And then what ? I'm sorry I didn't let you finish your sentence , but lose out , and then what ?
Speaker 1that that was wrong . We can't . We can't lose out and make the playoffs now in the nfc north .
Speaker 2If you lose out , you're , you're getting , you're definitely , you're definitely third . There's , no , there's no way . Fans are butts . If you lose out , there's , yeah , it's , it's only , it's only us in detroit yeah , but there's a possibility we still make the playoffs with with 10 wins I could agree because of because of the seating and and how shitty some fucking divisions are .
Speaker 2It's unreal so , like I don't know , I think there's a chance you guys could meet the falcons in the playoffs too . That would be holy fuck . That would be crazy , because the focus divisions ass . They could win the division .
Speaker 1I'm not scared of the fact .
Speaker 2No , I'm just saying for just the nostalgic effect of meeting Kirk Cousins in the playoffs . That would be crazy . Then you had to meet him in the season . It would be like he was . So if you guys had to meet him twice , it would basically be like you guys were in the same division this year again but Kirk was just on a different NFC North team Essentially . But obviously the playoff is a bigger game , but that would be crazy to meet him twice again in a season after he just left the North Problem is , if we meet him twice , it's going to be in Atlanta the second time .
Speaker 2But that's what I'm worried about for you as a Viking . I would be worried about if you won this game and then had to meet him in the playoffs . That's what I'd be worried about . Look , he could be a real season ruiner . I'm not saying he's making the playoffs in the Super Bowl , obviously , but I could just see him ruining somebody's season just because it's just Kirko is just fucking Kirko sometimes if the Vikings make the playoffs , we're going to the NFC Championship .
Speaker 1Yeah , I said it . Wow .
Speaker 3Yeah , I said it .
Speaker 2You asked me for something bold . Yeah , I said it . I'm glad that's on record .
Speaker 1Yeah , I fucking said it . Yeah , I said it at 6.02 on Sunday , december 1st that the Vikings I also said that's some bullshit .
Speaker 2Wait , wait , let me finish .
Speaker 1If we make the playoffs and we don't play the Lions in the divisional round ?
Speaker 2we are . Why is he excluding ? He sees , excluding this . No , no , no , listen , I'm telling you what I really think .
Speaker 1The only team that I'm worried about is the Lions . That's bold of you to say . If the Vikings make the playoffs and we don't play the Lions in the wild card or divisional round , you might as well book your ticket to the NFC championship game . We're going to the NFC championship if we don't play the Lions before the championship . Yeah , I said it . I absolutely fucking said it . Anybody that thinks I'm I'm purple right now , dm me and I'm in a purple haze right now .
Speaker 1dm me and let's bet super black on instagram super black dm me and let's fucking bet , because I'm telling you right now anyway , um , um , um , um , any , any , any other , any other ridiculous takes you have right now ?
Speaker 2we're . The only ridiculous take is the one that was just spoken , that that I I am just honestly , I'm just glad we have that on recording
College Football's Impact on Prospects
Speaker 2. It makes me even happier when I can like certain things , because certain people like my buddies , like I'm going to shout out Miles . Because I'm going to shout out basically , miles and Isaac .
Speaker 3Shout out Miles , you've been on the podcast . Yeah , yeah , I've seen that .
Speaker 2I've seen that . I've seen that and they basically Miles . Mainly Miles is the one that pisses me off most . Oh shit , when I hear that miles , he's calling you out buddy , when I'm calling you out , you got to get on the podcast . When I'm talking , mainly , mainly it's just because , like the delusion , and , like he , he's just a fair weather fan . So , like temi , he realizes certain things , but like , if one bad thing goes wrong , he's like , oh , they're the worst team ever . It's like man , like no not really , not really .
Speaker 2I'm okay with admitting when we , when things go sideways , all right yeah , I mean you have been , you have you have been in , like what we talk about accountability . When you say that it comes both ways , I , I feel like I became pretty accountable , but like certain things that you say I have to check , just because , like I don't know what , you think that that there's no nfc teams , in your way , as you're sitting here with I I say it , the green bay packers , I'm gonna say that number one , but first off , the , the , you got the eagles , you got so many other . You got the lions , obviously you got . You got so many teams to worry about that . You just seem to shrug off and it's and and it's going to come and it's going to check all that .
Speaker 1Uh , purple , purple haze , purple haze I can tell you why I'm not worried about the eagles real quick , before we , before we wrap up . I'm not worried about the eagles because saquon hasn't won any games this year . They are where they are because of barkley . They're where they are because of Barkley . They're where they are . I mean , I could agree .
Speaker 2I could agree to disagree . They got a pretty good passing game .
Speaker 1Eh , I mean , they have a really good , they had .
Speaker 2AJ Brown . They had AJ Brown out for a while too earlier on .
Speaker 1It hasn't been spectacular this year . It's a passing game , but it's not a passing game that's going to change . I mean , so far this year we haven't seen them win the game because of AJ Brown or whatever . It's Saquon's MVP season is what's making this possible ? What the Eagles are experiencing right now , Holy shit . So , like I said , let's not forget .
Speaker 2Check the replay on this .
Speaker 1Let's not forget , while we're watching this replay , vikings are going to the NFC North NFC Championship . We're probably going to be the one seed , to be honest with you , because I don't see the Lions holding on .
Speaker 2I don't see the rookie at Iowa , cooper to Jean . Just literally picked up there , henry , and tossed him .
Speaker 1Hey , best white corner in the world , probably in NFL history right now .
Speaker 2He literally just picked him up and tossed him . Cooper to Jean is a boss . Shout out to Iowa football . Yeah , Once again they beat Nebraska this weekend . Shout out to that too .
Speaker 1Oh man , here we go .
Speaker 2Man With the Hawkeye with the hawkeye , with the hawkeye love I personally .
Speaker 1I personally prefer the cyclones this year , not because I think they're better or nothing man , we disagree in every . I'm not , I'm not really a homer I'm not really a homer like that , but I I prefer iowa state this year because their uniforms are , are uh drippier you like that .
Speaker 2You like the all-black uniforms . I don't know if I really like them . I mean they don't really got no , they don't really got no . Like touch , they don't got nothing , like they don't got nothing , that like I mean I like it just because I like . I don't know , but I just I don't know if I really like that , but I don't know it's , it's the helmets , for me it's , it's the .
Speaker 1Is that that ?
Speaker 2I mean , I think iowa , I think I Iowa Hawkeyes have a somewhat all blackout type uniform as well .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2They have a lot of cool uniforms . I mean , they're not Oregon , but Well , yeah , oregon also is the creator of Nike is , like , established in the University of Oregon .
Speaker 1So it's pretty easy to just get stuff . He's an alumni there gifted to you at .
Speaker 2They get stuff basically at the price they get it for nike themselves not but yeah , they get the newest and the best those guys that that go to play sports there . They get like whole techs , like whole oregon techs . They get so much , so much gear and they get like shoes . They get everything like all the athletes .
Speaker 1They're getting an insane amount of like extra merch , yeah , they got player edition shit and all of that like crazy dude .
Speaker 2Their merch is crazy like they were . They like just posted on there like I'll see it on twitter or something different . There's a lot of colleges actually that have a lot of cool merch and like it's like all the nil stuff and all the money that's in college . Now they can a lot of times they can to do it too and they're doing a tush push . It looks like they got it .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean I always talk about like I always talk about college ball and stuff , but it's definitely like semi-pro ball right now , oh yeah 100% .
Speaker 2I definitely was part of the well it's , it's crazier than nil and then semi-pro . In my opinion , just because , like they're getting money that they can almost say no to going to pro because they know they're not going to have as good as a position in pro and they're , and they know damn well in college they're literally making killer money yeah , but what I will say is you can't stay in college forever .
Speaker 1So I mean the pros , definitely .
Speaker 2I agree , but a lot of them . You'll see a lot of guys stretching it out more nowadays and just getting getting crazy nil deals and just staying a little bit longer before they would rush to the league because they would get .
Speaker 1They wanted that , they wanted that big money yeah , but but uh , I think caleb williams broke it when he said it this last post .
Speaker 2But Caleb Williams , I feel like he just knew he was going to be a starter , but still , sometimes people just probably don't really fully care . But I mean he's in so many commercials and things , probably for different things , I bet you he's got so many endorsements . They're making money . They're still making bread .
Speaker 1How mad do you think the Bears and Bears fans are that they didn't take Jaden Daniels ?
Speaker 2Well , I don't know how mad they are , but a different question would be , or a different statement would be they should be extremely mad . Jaden Daniels eats Like . The reason why I obviously see his stats so closely is because he's on my fantasy team and the numbers he puts up and and a lot of times , a lot of it's he rushes for more yards than a lot of running backs do weekly , which is insane to me and like you'd think that teams would get it figured out with some sort of qb spy , like basically constantly having a back or some sort of basically like , if they're running with him so much , why would they not have extra like coverage ? But then you add to that , when that's even there , he's just so shifty and he maneuvers so well . He's . He's Jaden Daniels . If he keeps lasting like this , he's going to be an insanely good quarterback for quite some time .
Debate on Washington Football Team Name
Speaker 2But , like I said , I still think , uh that the , that the washington should go back to the redskins and even the people that , like the , the indian tribe has created a big , uh like a committee type thing to try to get them to change it back , because they , they think it's a which which , like they think it's like honoring them , like to see that on a big stage and they used to let them come out and ride on the horse and do the do the tradition . I thought that was really cool and and and it's crazy to me how , like these , these , like white extremists just thought it was like crazy to be named the redskins and they weren't even offended . Um , that's what that ? That literally was the movement . If the tribe that that the washington redskins actually originated from is literally not offended , like still to this day they're trying to get the name back and they consider it an honor for that to be a part of , because they bring them in and establish them in the stadium and do different things to involve the entire community in that way . And now it's just the commanders Like no character .
Speaker 2No , nothing Like that's what I just hate . That shit like canceling everybody nowadays .
Speaker 1That that shit , the cancel culture is crazy I mean , maybe , maybe it was , maybe it was like the biggest bait and switch in the history of the nfl . Maybe they changed it because they didn't want to big up the quote-unquote redskins anymore . Maybe they didn't want to honor quote-unquote that legacy anymore or they're just a bunch of pussy .
Speaker 2But no , I , I think it's more generally from a , from a massive group , that got it very , that got it very . Uh , that got it very , I think , probably with people who shouldn't have been offended . That got offended exactly when it comes to cancel culture .
Speaker 3People who have nothing to do with that shit think that they have something to do with that shit I'll be saying .
Speaker 2I'll be saying dude .
Speaker 3Uh , like motherfuckers , I tell motherfuckers to cancel us all the fucking time , because you know what ? That's just not real .
Speaker 2That's not fucking real , that's I , I don't , I understand like what it can entail and it's real , just for the fact of like what , what , like the world we live in , but I don't think it's , I don't , like , I don't think you could be fully canceled , like you , like no the only .
Speaker 2Thing is just like it's all opinion based , like , and a lot of times like people I don't know , dude , so so like that social media has ruined this whole thing . Like there's so many accusations of different things that go on and you like there's nobody's ever really to know what's fully true and that's what . So I think that's what's the worst thing about like , yeah , the internet is super informative , but it's also really bad for a lot of people like it . I mean , the internet is obviously a great , great , great resource , but it also , like , can involve so many things that are not real . So it's also crazy . You got to decipher in your own brain what what you could say is true and what's not , with several different um pieces of evidence , I could say like sources and real life things , or you know I feel like it's just very important to be open-minded .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , you have to be open-minded because , like I mean , none of us really know what is real you ? Know what I'm saying , Like if you have no knowledge , you could be misled .
Speaker 2But if you're like , if you're vigilant and you keep your eyes open , yeah , but it depends on the type of knowledge as well , Cause if you're super informed on a very irrelevant task or irrelevant could also be it could be relevant to one and not to the other . So that's a pretty , that's pretty big . You can be informed . You could be informed on certain things , but you could also be wrongly informed , or informed by the wrong influence , I should say . So I mean , I don't know . That's pretty broad .
Speaker 1I think that's where being open-minded is key , because if you're open-minded enough , you're not going to take your first piece of information and take it as the law .
Speaker 2If you look at several sources and you're still gaining one conclusion , then obviously that's where you should go . That's where I think open-minded becomes , because if you could put everything together and make a me , it's , it's , it's so delusional , it's , it's crazy . We'll , we'll , we'll take , we'll take . So we'll go from that to to Temi's , back to Temi's prediction .
Speaker 1That's . That's an example . Temi's prediction is what ? The truth ? Far from it , and you're , and you're so , and you're so , falsely , uh uh uh , informed that you feel like it's not , but the truth is going to reveal itself .
Speaker 2You know , for we know no king , Tell me you're giving out fake news .
Speaker 1Other than he who is king in the north . I'm just saying , oh , dude , speaking of king in the north , have you seen ?
Speaker 2that Before we go . Can we mention one more thing about these things on my hat ? I know I know I can go back to that , I just like it , just because it's like some simple little jab that just always gets to you guys , because it's the same answer to everybody . That's what I think is the funniest . When you mentioned that there's never been a Super Bowl trophy . In that case they all say the same thing oh , we want to talk about the past . And it's like well , the past becomes the present , and then the present obviously becomes the past again . And then they're like oh , it's the past . Well , I mean , it's just very repetitive and it's I don't know . I think it's coming again , so we'll see . But I've said it live now , so I'm chilling . It's very far from true and I've given you credit on a lot of things , but this we're steering real clear .
Speaker 1I'm very fine with Packer fans continually talking about old Super Bowls , because y'all could just go ahead and live in the past while we go on . Live in the past . Live in the past While we go on in the future .
Speaker 2We've done better for so many years , bro . It's unreal . There's been little years here and there where y'all get a little spark , but then you still come crashing down
Quarterback Comparison and Debate
Speaker 2. Listen and then guess what ? I guess what argument I go back to if we're say , say , say , it's the end of the year , we're both out of the playoffs or something . And then I go right back to the old . Then we got to go to the past , because then it's like oh , who was better ? Oh yeah , it's the same old .
Speaker 1Like darn old swashnigger , no matter what you say , down , sammy d's darn old Swashnigger , no matter what you say , sammy D's Darnold Swashnigger . Ginger Jesus is going to take us to the Super Bowl . Okay , he kind of turned into Ginger Jameis for a while , but it's okay . Now we got Ginger Jesus back .
Speaker 2That ain't the answer . That is not the answer .
Speaker 1Who is Not him ? You know what ? You know what ? I wasn't going to gonna do it . I was gonna save it for the podcast , but you know what , just in case you can , save it , you can save it , you , you can save it . Just in case anybody is wondering , I will say this quick what's he gonna say ?
Speaker 2something about they're sitting at 10 lands , or something ? No , no , I just wanted to give him a little bit of disagreement a little bit between you and me .
Speaker 1Sam Darnold is the best quarterback in the NFL right now . Who's playing better ?
Speaker 2Can I just not answer and just let everybody listening laugh ?
Speaker 1No , no , no , no , no , no Because I have a . Please just let me listening laugh . No , no , no , no , no , no Because I have a .
Speaker 2Please , just let me not answer that . Let me not answer that , please , and just let everybody listening just laugh at that .
Speaker 1Okay , okay , not Sam Darnold , but who do you think is the best quarterback in the league right now ? Who's playing the best quarterback ?
Speaker 2I mean Lamar or Jaden .
Speaker 3Who .
Speaker 2He said who Lamar or Jaden ?
Speaker 1Jaden Daniels .
Speaker 2Like quarterback-wise , like like importance wise and and and getting things done . I mean , obviously the Vikings are sitting at 10 wins , but there's a lot that goes into that . Obviously they have a good defense , they have this and that , but you're talking strictly quarterback , correct ?
Speaker 1Okay , let's let , let's let . Let let me tell you this statistics Jared Goff , I will give you my homes . Next , Jared Goff versus Sam Darnold .
Speaker 2I will say so right now , let me finish .
Speaker 1I will say Before I even start . Jared Goff has Better stats , but he's the standard . So now let me tell you the numbers . Jared Goff completion percentage 72.9 . This is crazy .
Speaker 2Are you looking at stats right now ? The numbers Jared Goff completion percentage 72.9 . This is crazy . Are you looking at stats right now ? Yeah , what are we ? Can we look at stats ? All right , if we're talking stats , sam Donald's number 10 in the league right now . Wait , wait , wait , let me finish . You're going to say number 10 . Let me finish . I'm not talking about .
Speaker 1For quarterbacks . He's quarterback , Take the ball , Manage the game . Wins are included in this Yards per attempt and everything . So passing yards Jared Goff .
Speaker 2Yeah , Lamar's leading that .
Speaker 1Lamar's leading passing yards . Yeah , but check this out 27-61 . 27-12 . Total touchdowns Jared Goff 21 . Sam 22 . Interceptions Jared Goff 9 . Sam 10 . Passer rating 109.9 for Jared Goff . 108.7 for Sam Darnold . Qbr Jared Goff 57.6 . Sam Darnold 59.3 Yards per attempt 9 for Jared 8.3 .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay . And a lot of those games . Wait , wait , wait , pff grade . Keep going , keep going .
Speaker 1PFF grade 74 for Jared 82 . Alright For Sam Darnold Big time throws . According to PFF that's not turnover worthy . Twenty yards plus down the field , nine for Jared Twenty two .
Speaker 2The craziest thing of all this is I've never discredited him of being bad , but but , but the reason why I'm checking this is because number one is crazy . Number one . Number one is crazy . We're talking just quarterback . You could say you and that goes back to what I was saying about me completely not disagreeing I was giving McConnell credit to his quarterback development , but I think it's a Jeremy Lin effect .
Speaker 2Look at how many times Vikings have had good QBRs , good quarterback runs , and look what happens . That's what I boil down to the longevity . When's the last time you guys have had a long , long quarterback other than maybe Cousy , and that didn't ever end good ? No , so the longevity is a very big factor . And when you get a quarterback that lasts year after year and you're not bouncing around and learning different things and not being a one-year jeremy lynn season , that's that's . But yeah , like that's that we need . That's where I'm gonna face pretty much end the argument . You could say what you need to say on your behalf , but all I need to say is we . We could talk a little bit deeper to this , but we'll . We'll just highlight that again that you said sam narlin's the best quarterback in nfl . Ain't nobody playing better , better ball right now .
Speaker 1Again that you said Sam Norton's the best quarterback in the NFL . Ain't nobody playing better ball right now ?
Speaker 2Okay , just about All right , y'all .
Speaker 3It sounds like that's where we're going . We appreciate everybody who's listening .
Speaker 2Thank you , Connor , for coming on Y'all go listen to Kings of the North podcast with Super .
Speaker 3Black . That accountability we got to do it soon .
Speaker 2Both of us , we got to get that done soon . For coming on . Y'all go listen to Kings of the North podcast with Super Black . Kings of the North needs to . Hey , we need to that accountability . We got to do it soon , both of us . Both of us . We got to get that done soon . We got to get that . We already was on it so .
Speaker 1I'm going to be thinking about it . We could definitely record tonight after run on .
Speaker 2yeah , maybe , depending on how long you're sitting there , I'm definitely going to eat after this , but like , maybe if we , if we call back again a little bit later , then yeah , 100 oh yeah , we can a little bit later .
Speaker 1I gotta run up to the lakes right now .
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying hell yeah , anybody listening that wants to talk football . Kings of the north uh , you can hit me up . Hit us up on winston underscore black on instagram . We'll get you in on the show . You can DM Black , super Black on Instagram . You just want to hop on , entertain the thought .
Speaker 2You can hit me up , dm him .
Speaker 3You can hit me up they call me Monski on Instagram . You can hit us up on Winston and Black on Instagram . Like I said , man I said it multiple times before this isn't just a podcast where you guys got to be doing cool shit to get on . Y'all got something to talk about . Y'all got some opinions to express . Hit us up , we'll get you on , give you an hour to express those opinions .
Speaker 1Man , I definitely also appreciate everybody listening man
Interacting With Our Listeners
Speaker 1. On the last episode we went through what countries our listeners come from . It's still shocking me . I definitely appreciate y'all .
Speaker 3Each and every last one of y'all .
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying . I'm going to shoot one out For the Vikings one time . Boom , boom , scrolling to the bow , you know anyway , yeah , y'all make sure to like comment like comment subscribe , whatever the fuck y'all need to do .
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Speaker 1Hey man Also . Uh , before we get off this podcast I haven't said it in a while , but I like to say this is just opinions , man , and uh , you're definitely allowed to have yours and come share it with us . We're the most open-minded people out here , you know . So , uh , stay out your fucking feelings . Hell yeah , on that note , I'll holla at y'all next week , man . Thank you , connor love .