OTs In Pelvic Health

Harnessing Sleep Science When Life Isn't Perfect

Lindsey Vestal Season 1 Episode 184

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If you're a pelvic health OT, you've probably had this moment.

 

A client is doing all the right things, pelvic floor relaxation, toileting mechanics, bladder retraining, pacing, and then they tell you, honestly, my symptoms are the worst when I don't sleep. And you're like, yes, that tracks, but then what? Because the internet version of sleep is eight hours, no caffeine, perfect morning sunlight, meditation, no screens, no stress. And in pelvic health, many of our clients are not living that life.

 

They're postpartum, they're shift workers, they're caregivers, they're in school, they're in pain. They're waking to pee, they're waking from hot flashes and waking because their toddler is in their room at 2 a.m. So today I'm giving you a real world OT centered sleep science episode. What we actually do with imperfect sleep, how sleep debt and circadian misalignment show up as bladder, bowel, pelvic pain, and sexual function issues.

 

And I'm going to use case studies so it feels like you can take action on this episode tomorrow. 


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When people say I'm not sleeping, there's usually, usually two different problems underneath.

 

Number one, homeostatic sleep debt, which is not enough total sleep. This is the, I got five hours problem, right? Sleep pressure builds and builds. 


Number two, circadian misalignment. This is when sleep timing is out of sync. This is the, I sleep at weird times or I have rotating shifts or I have weekend sleep ins. They overlap, but clinically they lead to different strategies.

 

So sleep debt amplifies pain sensitivity, irritability, and urgency reactivity. Circadian misalignment can be more destabilizing than the total hours, especially for mood, inflammation, and recovery patterns. So you can see flares that feel kind of random.

 

And in practice, many clients have both of these. So let's put this into a simple model that we can explain to clients. When sleep is short or disrupted, you commonly see definitely a lower threshold for threat, right? 


This looks like the nervous system becoming more reactive.

 

It looks like urgency that feels even more urgent. Sensations feel more intense and pain feels more dangerous. The second thing you commonly see is sensory processing and coping bandwidth.

 

They have an overall less buffer for discomfort. Their window of tolerance is smaller and they catastrophize more easily because the brain is tired. The third thing we see is more muscle guarding in the jaw, in the shoulders, in the abs, in the diaphragm, and the pelvic floor, of course.

 

They all trend towards bracing. The fourth thing we see, the GI motility. It just gets kind of weird.

 

I don't know how else to say it, but we see things like constipation and diarrhea patterns that can both worsen depending on the person. We see bloating increasing. We see pelvic pressure and urgency.

 

And then the last thing we see is behavioral loop changes. So this looks like more just-in-case peeing. We see more skipping meals.

 

We see less movement. Clients will talk about more time in bed where they're awake. And they're talking about more caffeine later in the day.

 

Then worse sleep, then more caffeine. You get the picture. 


So in all of these scenarios, sleep becomes a multiplier.

 

All right, let's look at a quick case study. This one is involving urgency, insomnia, and just-in-case peeing. My client is Kara, not her real name.

 

She's 36. She has a corporate job that she's had for about five or six years. She talks about urinary frequency and urgency, nocturia.

 

So she's peeing two to three times in the middle of the night. She doesn't have any infection. And her pelvic floor exam, which I use the menu of options with her, she chose number four, which is the internal exam.

 

The menu of options is only taught inside the OT Pioneers and Level 1 Functional Pelvic Health Practitioner Program You won't find that anywhere else. So she chose the internal exam. And on that internal exam, she showed elevated resting tone and difficulty lengthening.

 

She says she just can't sleep.

 

Then as we talk, I learn she's actually in bed for eight hours, but her sleep is fragmented. She scrolls at night because she's anxious about work and she pees just in case before bed. And again, if she wakes at night, even if it's a small urge.

 

So some OT clinical reasoning here is that we have a bladder that's being trained to signal at low volumes and a nervous system that's underslept and hypervigilant. So that's what we're looking at here with Kara. So my intervention plan is to reframe urgency first and foremost.

 

I explained to her, urge is a message, not an emergency. Your bladder, it learned hypervigilance and we can totally retrain it. 


Number two, I really wanna stop the just in case loop at night.

 

This will move the needle for her. And we create two categories. I talk about it being safety P, and a training P. Safety P happens before bed.

 

The training P happens overnight. So if she wakes, she does a 60 to 90 second downshift first before deciding what to do. Three is the 90 second protocol.

 

So you may have heard me talk about this before. It's very simple and it really works. I ask her to keep her feet grounded.

 

I ask her to unclench her jaw, exhale longer than the inhale, hands on her lower ribs to really encourage that three-dimensional breathing, and then reassess. And in that 90 seconds, she's asking herself, did the urge drop by even 10%? 


Next comes the decision tree. If the urge drops, she returns to bed.

 

If the urge stays high and she's wide awake, I encourage her to go to the bathroom, but slowly, and she avoids scanning for danger behaviors. So bright lights, phone, and clock checking. So keep the lights dim, don't check your phone, don't check the clock.

 

Just pay attention to your interoceptive clues. 


Last, sleep efficiency education in OT terms. This is what I say to her.

 

We want bed to be for sleep and intimacy, not for worrying and problem solving. So if you're awake greater than 20 or 30 minutes, get out of bed, do a boring wind down activity in low light, and then return to bed when you're sleepy. I remind her we're not looking for perfect sleep.

 

We're looking for nocturia down from three to one. We're looking for urgency intensity dropping faster, fewer bedtime bathroom trips, and less daytime frequency because you stopped preemptive voiding. So the OT pearl here is for urgency and insomnia, you often treat habit loops and threat interpretation before you ever get to perfect bladder timing.

 

Okay, let's get into the napping conversation. When naps help versus hurt.

 

In pelvic rehab, naps come up constantly, definitely with our postpartum clients, with shift workers, with pain flares, and clients who are just frankly very fatigued. And so here is the way I teach it. For tactical nap options, I encourage them to do about 20 to 30 minutes, which reduces overall sleep debt, but it's minimal sleep inertia.

 

90 minutes for full sleep cycle for deeper recovery. Now, what I warn them against to this is 45 to 60 minutes in the late afternoon for clients who have insomnia, can worsen nighttime sleep for some, right? Because napping too late, when circadian alertness is rising towards the evening, could end up just backfiring. So language you can use is let's use nap to function, not nap to escape.

 

And nap is a tool, not a verdict about your body. And yes, sometimes a client will tell you they can't nap. So then we do an operational pause, eyes closed, slow breathing, no phone, quiet, low stimulation.

 

Even just 10 minutes of these things can improve perceived capacity. Okay, let's look at another case study. This is pelvic pain meets dyspnea and sleep fragmentation.

 

So my client is Sam, she's 28. She's got vulvar pain and dyspnea, constipation, pelvic floor overactivity. She has fine sleep duration, but wakes repeatedly.

 

She also reports increased pain the day after poor sleep, and she avoids intimacy because it feels unpredictable. Now here, my OT reasoning says this is a sensation, excuse me, this is a sensitization pattern, where we see disrupted sleep, moves to lower pain threshold, which leads to more guarding, more pain, more fear, and worse sleep. So our OT plan here is to set a sleep as pain modulation frame.

 

So I say, sleep is one of your strongest pain modulators, not the only one, but a pretty powerful one. So we're gonna track the right variables. Instead of asking how was sleep, we track sleep continuity.

 

So how many times did they wake up? We track morning pain level. We track how long it took for them to fall back asleep, and the pain recovery time after triggering. Now, intimacy pacing, we talk about non-demand intimacy ideas.

 

So touch that is not a test, touch that is not time limited, and touch that has a stop signal planned. These things combine reduced performance pressure and nighttime rumination. We also talk about an evening routine as pelvic down training.

 

So, so many things we could do here, right? We could lower the lights, we could put on some candles, we can put on some gentle music, we can definitely put down the phones and the television, and then we could do, you know, some very like gentle hip abdominal mobility, you know? So just kind of cat and cow, we can roll the hips, something where we're just doing something that feels nourishing, and definitely including longer exhales. And I'm talking about something not huge, something doable in five to seven minutes. Lastly, a constipation plan.

 

For this client, constipation was mechanical and neurological, which escalated pain and sleep disruption. So we talked about morning toilet routines, a footstool, exhaling on effort, and no prolonged straining. Now pain is not always gone quickly, right? It's different for every client, but this client reduced a three-day flare cycle.12 mins

 

She overall had so much less fear around intimacy and shared fewer awakenings as her evening tension reduced. So this was about three to five weeks into our session. So the OT pearl here is in pelvic pain, sleep is often a difference between I can cope and I can't cope.

 

So treat sleep like a functional domain, not a lifestyle lecture. We have to talk about caffeine now, right? And clients will ask, when should I have caffeine? Is caffeine ruining my bladder? Or they'll simply say, I need caffeine to survive. So here's where we can educate on patterns.

 

And we say things like, you know what? Caffeine has its place, definitely improves function short-term. Caffeine too late can worsen your sleep and it can irritate bladder for some clients. It can also become the Band-Aid that can worsen the wound.

 

So a simple OT approach here is first identify the goal. Is it alertness? Is it mood? Is it headache avoidance? And then talk about what's the minimum effective dose and very clearly what's the cutoff time that they find doable. So the overall tone is making it very strategic, right? And just saying something like, you know what? If we move your last caffeine earlier by 60 to 90 minutes, what happens to sleep? What happens to urgency, right? You're guiding a behavior experiment led with curiosity.

 

Case study number three is postpartum sleep disruption. Leakage and some pelvic heaviness.

 

We have Nina, she's 33, 10 weeks postpartum. And in addition to that pelvic heaviness I mentioned, she's got stress urinary incontinence, fatigue, anxiety and fragmented sleep due to infant care. She comes in feeling really defeated because every provider just says sleep more and Nina just wants to scream.

 

This is where we stop giving impossible advice without any scaffolding and start doing OT. How do we do that? We start off by naming the reality. Your sleep is not fully under your control right now.

 

So let's talk about micro recovery. Two 10 minute down shifts per day. Not necessarily naps, you just might be lying down, maybe your eyes are closed, you're slow breathing.

 

These micro movements, excuse me, these micro moments do so much. Number three, pelvic load management. So we teach pelvic pressure budgeting.

 

This is where we identify activities that spike heaviness. So baby wearing, prolonged standing, maybe stairs. And we offer modifications.

 

We talk about breaks. We talk about support garments if appropriate. Exhale on effort, of course, for that inter abdominal pressure piece and load distribution.

 

For the nighttime bladder strategy, if she wakes for baby, avoid that, well, I just might as well pee unless she truly needs to. Or if she does pee, keep the lights low and avoid the phone to protect sleep continuity. Last is her partner's family scripts.

 

This is OT gold. So teach her to start sharing with her partner or her family, I need one protected 90 minute block. I need you to handle the first wake up on weekends.

 

This will affect my healing so much. And then let's talk about outcome markers, right? Because we need to know that what we're doing is shifting things. So we're looking for less leaking and a core pelvic coordination, less heaviness via pacing and load management and an overall improved mood and pain tolerance.

 

Even if sleep hours don't skyrocket. The OT pearl here is postpartum pelvic rehab often succeeds because of routine design, support negotiation, and not because of a perfect set of exercises. So you may have heard a lot about circadian alignment.

 

I personally am pretty obsessed with it. I've had episodes recently where I talk about circadian alignment. So you can do a deeper dive into that episode.

 

But if you want one clinically useful way to teach circadian alignment without becoming, you know, I don't know, going down the rabbit hole. I like to think of three anchors. Number one, have a consistent wake time as much as life allows.

 

Number two, morning light exposure, even through a window, but ideally outside. This tells the brain we're up and that kicks off the entire circadian message. Number three, timing consistency for movement and meals, even loosely.

 

If a client is severely sleep deprived, you can prioritize total sleep before strict circadian optimization. So we can say something like, look, first we stabilize sleep quantity where we can, then we fine tune. Okay, let's do another quick case study.

 

This one is a shift worker who has constipation and pelvic floor overactivity. My client is Darren, 42, a night shift nurse. All right, with this one, we are seeing constipation, incomplete emptying, pelvic pain, urinary hesitancy.

 

Darren has rotating shifts every few weeks. My OT reasoning here is that those rotating shifts cause significant circadian stress, inconsistent toileting windows, inconsistent meals and movement, and very high sympathetic tone. So our OT plan here is to shift proof toileting routine.

 

I want to create for Darren, I identifying a toileting anchor window that can exist on both shift types. Even if it's not ideal, it's consistent. We talk about using gastrocolic reflexes strategically after a meal.

 

And of course we're going into positioning breath mechanics and we're going to be limiting the straining on the toilet. We talk about movement stacks, right? So little short walks after meals does a wonder for GI motility and even mood. And we talk about hip mobility and trunk rotation breaks to also support bowel motility throughout the day.

 

We talk about downshifting protocols before toileting. So sympathetic tone can inhibit initiation of urination and defecation for many clients. And so if we just do one to two minutes of a longer exhale and some pelvic drops, we can do significant improvements.

 

Also let's protect our sleep day, practical environmental modifications, right? So keeping our room dark and cool, having a consistent sound like a sound machine is huge and even having boundaries with family and roommates regarding what, you know, if they invite you in to watch a movie, if they invite you in to do some doom scrolling, being very clear with how that impacts your sleep and feeling comfortable saying no. Last is referral collaboration. So if rotating shifts are causing a major health fallout like it was with this client, I encouraged him to discuss with his employer about a schedule stability if possible.

 

It's not always possible, but we don't know until we ask. Okay, so what do you do when a client says I can't do sleep hygiene? Okay, this is a good conversation. If they open up to us and share that with us, it's really important.

 

And here's what we can do. We can validate their constraints, right? But then we have them choose one lever, just one. We make it smaller and we measure the effect.

 

And then we iterate. My favorite one lever option is moving caffeine earlier, even just by 30 to 60 minutes. I strongly encourage five minutes of morning light.

 

And then I have them to reduce clock checking at night. We're not selling perfection, we're building a plan. Now, what about our clients who are obsessed with data? So I'm talking clients with wearables.

 

And our OT role here is to help them interpret their data without spiraling. And we want them to avoid letting numbers really become a new threat. So I encourage light touch tracking.

 

So things like sleep duration, bedtime, wake time consistency, but I really try to lean into the subjective, how functional do you feel? I want them to improve their interoception and not hyperfixate on a sleep score or using the device as permission to feel bad. So I say things like data is information, not a diagnosis. We're looking for trends, not grades.

 

So if you want a quick list for a OT sleep toolkit, number one, a 90 second downshift where we exhale longer than inhale. A tactical nap menu. So 20 to 30 minutes or 90 minutes.

 

The bed equals sleep rule. Number four, the one change experiment. So this could be caffeine timing, light timing or phone timing.

 

Number five, protect it block negotiation. This is really important with postpartum clients. And number six, toileting plus the sleep link education.

 

So this is where we talk about just in case looping and nocturia. So here's the main message I want you to take away. Pelvic health OT is not just pelvic floor.

 

It's function under real constraints. And sleep is one of the most powerful constraints we can address without perfection. So I hope that today's episode really helped you see how we can start these conversations and really help clients move the needle when it comes to their sleep hygiene.

 

Thank you so much for being here. If you have any ideas or topics that you want me to cover in a future episode, hit me up, DM me, email me. I love bringing you the topics that you wanna learn more about.


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