Wrack Your Brain Episode 9

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Episode 9. This is a show about everything and nothing. Part politics, part satire, all bourbon. Join Dominick Leon and Charles Fuks as they muse about current events, social issues, and whatever surfaces from the depths of their minds. If you walk away thinking about something in a different way leave a comment, like, share, and subscribe. In this episode we discuss the recent Supreme Court ruling on Puerto Rico, Johnny Depp, and workplace discrimination.

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ladies and gentlemen welcome to april 22nd 2022

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episode nine of rocky brand podcast i'm charles fuchs and i'm dominic leon and we're rock your brain

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he loves to do it at the same time after the first time that we did it that's it this is our let's see now this is our um as you

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can see i'm a proud member of the of the jewish space leader laser brigade

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do you know what that's from by the way i don't know you know who needs to know jesus

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i i think it was someone i think was either matt gates or ron desantis some some politicians some federal

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politicians literally okay i i actually don't remember uh the

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specific details but had to do with a at least one politician and some of them might have agreed with them

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might have agreed with him or her basically there was a social media post where literally this person had a

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conspiracy theory was supporting conspiracy theory that like jews had were putting up satellites with space

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leaders or something like that dude haven't you heard that jews rule the world they own everything they run they

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run all the media companies they run everything so of course why wouldn't it be a jewish conspiracy theory

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right but as if it's not enough to rule the world now we're sending up space lasers

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anyway proud member of the jewish space laser brigade

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luck i am so

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all um um we're we're going to talk about several things today um we don't know where the conversation is going to

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take us as as usual but um we'll start with some announcements some some sort of get

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all right so let's i guess let's let's get into the topics now huh first topic

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is puerto rico okay okay for or against

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so you you put me on these topics that you know i'm just gonna go on a tangent

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about i'm puerto rican and sicilian full disclosure i'm puerto rican and

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sicilian but i grew up most of my life in puerto rico

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and never liked it i always felt out of place i always felt

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um that i didn't belong i had this weird feeling that i just wasn't

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with the crowd puerto rico is a very strange place puerto rico

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it's just how do i put it america i'm going to put it carefully

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in part because of some of your feelings about people in puerto rico don't like me i don't care i grew up there and i have every right to say what i'm going

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to say and all of you people in puerto rico are so

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everybody here dresses accordingly to where you know they live or the climate or whatever what they like wearing

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people in puerto rico are so brainwashed they wear uggs uggs in 100 degree

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weather only because that's the fashion that's

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[ __ ] [ __ ] okay everybody and i'm going to tell you why i felt out of place because i was the

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only one with enough common sense where everybody was dressed in the same way listening to the same music if you were

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any different you were bullied and you were made fun of because you didn't follow

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everyone else everyone wore the same kind of pants the same kind of shoes the same kind of

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shirt yeah i mean i understand fashion but the entire island is doing it only because everyone else is doing it and

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when americans would come visit they look around going what the [ __ ] is going on like you it's a hundred people americans are americans

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dude puerto rico let me tell you something about puerto ricans puerto ricans are only americans

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because when it benefits them and also because well you know we're not going to get to why other latin american

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countries hate puerto rico and i'm in agreeance because i'm going to tell you why but first let's get into the why

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puerto ricans are americans let's get down to the [ __ ] nitty-gritty of it puerto rico was a

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military strategic point for the for the united states so they went in there and they opened up all these military bases

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because the because the united states owned the panama canal which you know i had a lot of trade you know coming

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through panama canal they needed to protect it that's why they had fort buchanan roosevelt rhodes naval base

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they had um listen it's all in puerto rico but guess what wake up puerto ricans because that

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shit's all gone panama canal no longer belongs to united states and i think what 4p canada is at 30

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functioning capacity uh reserve card but if you ever go there

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thirty percent of it it's only functioning said the whole the whole thing looks like an abandoned actually

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like an army course with with a uh he's a basically he's a police officer

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no he's not he's he's just a civilian but but he is law enforcement he is yeah

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he's you know he's a cop he's a cop on the base um and he was he was telling me how those guys suck by the way

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and fort buchanan if you're listening those those police officers on fort began and you all suck yeah

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i don't know but my buddy seems like a good dad but i don't know what he's like as a cop then again we all know that that uh many many many police officers

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uh i would say abuse their power listen with the whole thing with the police abusing their power again what we see on

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social media you're seeing one [ __ ] amongst [ __ ] thousands of great people

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you're you're absolutely right it is you know you've known cops in your life

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right yeah have you you're telling me you've never heard a cop tell a story where he like flexed his his power so to

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speak during during a stop or or an interaction right like you've i've known i've known many cops and and many people

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sitting around the fire in suburban they say you know somebody's giving them lip and maybe they bump them

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putting them into the police car or something like that now you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna say this there's two things that the only two things i've

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ever heard my sister used to be the cup from a cup my sister used to date a cop and he he was listen very nice guy but

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he would do the whole [ __ ] let me turn on my siren because i don't want to stop at this red light thing no i'm not even talking about that but also what he

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the only scumbag thing he did was because you know this was back in staten island new york

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staten island unless you're in the north shore nothing's going on so in order to get an arrest what he

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would do is he would [ __ ] sit in front of a bar wait for somebody to come out get in their car drunk stop them

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know that they were drunk and just [ __ ] take it but that's not an abuse that's not a blues but it's like a setup

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it's like come on you're you're yes that's an easy setup

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go for

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or at least like a block away and wait for these guys to come out that means that you've got nothing better to do than and i get it it's legit but that's

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like such that's a that's a grimy kind of thing like it is it's and i've heard cops talk about stuff like that too like

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or even people on um you know knowing where people are gonna break uh yeah driving laws right like

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it's speed traps like in virginia or whatever right so

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yes uh i've had cops telling me like ah you know that's not real policing right you're not you're not looking or you're

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not uh uh

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i'm talking about stories that i've heard you're telling me you've never heard but wait a minute let's not get off topic here we're talking about your friend that's a cop on the base now he

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might be a great guy okay he might be a great guy and i won't i won't take that away from him wait since

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when do we since when we backtrack about topics no little bit this is episode nine you're suddenly like feeling comfortable like

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oh yeah we're we don't go down rabbit holes anymore we're only on

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but when when all the cops i've ever encountered going because remember i'm i'm retired military he's already he's

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still in the in the in the reserve right now but i've been he's been in what 15 years

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14 years i've 17 years i've spent okay but growing up in puerto rico every time i had to go on for buchanan

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and every single area what you're going for beginning because maybe i was there on vacation and i went there just go shop at the p.s okay maybe

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yeah after you've been in not no even during when i had my regular cat card and i wanted to go in

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for that before you really go to it not before no this was during and this is after so i they knew who you know they

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look at my id complete [ __ ] now mind you this comes from i don't i've never served at

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fort buchanan but i had to go on fort buchanan because if that's where you go for like for example memphis is on fort

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buchanan or if you go anywhere for like for example if that's your home entry point into the military

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sometimes they have [ __ ] there that you might want plus you want to go to the px you want to go to the commissary whatever

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i remember the first time i went on fort buchanan i had my cat card i'd go in and say hey where's the px the cop looks at

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me goes what the [ __ ] do i look like a [ __ ] you know i'm like dude you work here i'm just asking a question

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you know and i said it in english like i could have been anybody and all i said was where's the piece what the [ __ ] do i

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look like a tourist guide you could have just went that way it's that way that's it i would have figured

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it out instead of having to drive all the way through [ __ ] fort buchanan like a maniac no every single time i've had an encounter

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with the police on fort buchanan they're [ __ ] pricks but we're i digress we're we're getting off topic

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before pecans the topic is puerto rico so puerto rico

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panama canal no longer belongs to panama or the i mean it belongs not the united states so there's no

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reason for the united states to protect the panama canal or the trade that goes through it it's not our business the legal status of puerto rico is that it's

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a protector that's not what i i'm getting there it was there to protect it which is why

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it was it was considered okay well it was named the territory of the united states it's the territory so that

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territory granted puerto ricans uh citizenship just like any other american

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however that in and of itself the puerto ricans being able to come in and out of the

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country to united states as far as i understand is the only country in the caribbean

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well i mean the only island or whatever in the caribbean apart from the countries in south america and central

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america and south america that can come in and out of the united states as they please kind of like

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hawaii except they're not a state right but it's the attitude that puerto ricans have towards everybody else in latin

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america which is why everybody else hates them and i agree because again i saw it firsthand puerto ricans have this

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air of superiority as if their whole [ __ ] island is driving range rovers everywhere they go it's [ __ ] it's

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[ __ ] don't americans have an air superiority of course they do but imagine imagine 3.9 million people

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having the same attitude just because oh you're from costa rica oh well i can go into america

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whenever i want what do you have to do that's the attitude they have and trust me we saw it every day and i [ __ ]

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hated it but besides the point okay so make a mistake here's what i'm going to tell you about

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puerto rico the island is full of people that want to vote for statehood because they

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they believe in some fantasy land [ __ ] whatever they're on maybe there's something in their bourbon

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that they're on i don't know whatever drug that puerto rico one day is going to become a state let me tell you something

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this is never going to happen because puerto rico has no use for the united states it doesn't produce

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anything it doesn't export anything and all puerto rico is is a government so hold on let me finish this statement

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hold on hold on let me finish puerto rico is a burden when it comes to

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there is from the 3.9 million people that live on on puerto rico

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on the island of puerto rico an island that's 100 by 35 100 miles long 35 miles

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wide tiny [ __ ] island but there's 3.9 million [ __ ] on it and the majority these are numbers the majority

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of the island is on some type of government assistance so in essence you are a government

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burden you're a burden on the government in the united states when you really serve no purpose you don't export anything you don't produce things in

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such a capacity where you're actually your gdp could be in the millions but for what what are you doing how many in

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the long run you should have no purpose okay hold on you in the long run puerto ricans you serve no purpose so what are

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you gonna do when the government says you know what we're spending all this money on puerto rico we're giving them all this

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assistance and just like you we were talking about it before they were bitching and complaining well we don't get this much assistance and

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yeah you don't [ __ ] because you don't pay the same amount of taxes everybody else

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so why would you get more help plus you're not if you're not even making an effort to do it listen bottom line is

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the reason i joined the army to be quite honest with you i lied to my grandmother

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i drove when i was 17 so i had to lie to her and i said this is the paperwork for my high school graduation she didn't

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even look at it she signed it and that was her permission for me to go in the army why because i wanted to get so far

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away from all you [ __ ] [ __ ] who are 60 years behind the rest of the

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[ __ ] planet and believe that you know what the amount of ignorance that comes out of people's mouths and

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puerto rico makes me want to throw up and i'm ashamed to say that i'm from there lots of times you go to new york

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you go to the bronx you go to the upper west side you go all the puerto ricans are there it's like dude i cannot be

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i do not want anybody to know i'm a puerto rican because i don't want them to think i'm like you 60 years old with a [ __ ] flat brim

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cap to the side sucks up she needs your piece of [ __ ] all puerto rico needs to just be either sink

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or [ __ ] the united states needs to release them from their territory and then [ __ ] give them back to spain i'm done

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prove my just to my point to everybody who doubted me i don't like puerto rico and i grew up there and i'm puerto rican

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in the next episode of rock your brain dominic is going to give his honest opinion of how he feels about perk

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that's right because i didn't do it and he's not going to hold back now

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a couple of things so a couple of things on your logic and a couple things about stapler good well i

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mean i don't know the whole process of becoming a state i will be honest i don't remember the exact i believe but there i believe they

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have to request it yeah via well official request and then

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vote by the way i think three quarters of the states have to accept the right puerto rico is doing it right now is that there's again

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they have the two the two-party system just like we don't have a priority system we have a multi-party system in

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puerto rico in puerto rico there's three parties right now but one of them doesn't really

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nobody ever gives it any attention and it's the independent party what they call pipiolo which is the

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green flag with the nexum and they're all independent and they're the ones that have been associated with terrorist groups like the machitaro's and so on

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and and if anybody knows politics you know the much terrorists of puerto rico they actually bombed a few of places

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back in the 70s and 80s and in westminster anyway you had your rent but you had your go ahead okay your logic

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which is that that that be having puerto rico as a state will not benefit the the rest of the united states at all

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so i i believe that they're i mean they're 100 their statistics on this i don't

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remember exactly but there's a certain number of states and i think it's more than half i think it's more than 25.

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uh i think it might be in the 30s that receive more

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more money from the federal government than they than they put in and they said so what is it so they have to be a bigger state

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um or by by um bigger state by citizens no

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no actually no like you would that would be the logic like okay well if we were more people i guess we're getting more no it's because they're

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they'll tell me the electoral colleges

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it's it's it's something like and it's it happens to be many of the democratic states

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new york california pay more into the federal government i don't mean the state itself but the no no i get it the

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citizens of the states uh or the residents of the state uh uh pay more to the federal government than the federal

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government allocates to the state itself the rest of the states and i think it's in the 30s right so it is the the

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majority um pauline pulling from the federal

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government so if you look at it that way financially and i i'm going to name some states i

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believe alabama's like this i believe georgia's like this no offense alabama or georgia i want to see maybe north carolina's

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even like this in any case many of the southern states arguably are a drain on the federal

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government at least financially at least from from from the standpoint of what are you putting in versus what are you taking i would argue that puerto rico is

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even a bigger dream maybe i don't know but the if the logic is if you're a drain you're no use to the united states

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get the [ __ ] out or don't come in right then then the argument would be like well let's throw

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no no no but once you're a state that's it you're a state already

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you and you became a state in a time where the country was in i think a lot more things were were equal all all

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things being hawaii is actually a was that wasn't it the last it was the most recent

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how are alaska i don't know but right one of the last two right uh but they did what i'm saying there was a purpose

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to making the mistake there was a purpose or there was a legitimate i don't think you i don't think you're thinking of

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statehood the right way like it's what i'm saying is the purpose had to have come from where there's no purpose

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if the majority of the other states had to vote to allow it it's because there was a purpose for it to happen right but

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this is that logic okay then i mean it's it's you're thinking of it as purpose it's like

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as if as if um like national policy bottom line doesn't i don't ever think listen if even you

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say 25 or whatever 30 it's not going to get to [ __ ] 1

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all right the majority of the united states the people in this country and i agree with them puerto ricans are a

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[ __ ] nuisance all right a nuisance so i don't know if puerto rico's applied to the estate um

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they have many times and they've been denied like [ __ ] are you sure we can do that but

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let's go i i'm my understanding is they they've

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had votes and most all of the votes have come back no or at least the majority right

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so as 2017 the referendum had three options in

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becoming a state of the united states independence free association are maintaining the current territorial status those who voted overwhelmingly

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chose statehood 97 great okay and then what happened that that's where it ends okay but the united

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states the the country can choose this if they want to but will the united

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states allow it they're voting for it but they don't even know if the u.s wants them and i'll tell you right now

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there's no [ __ ] purpose to have them give them back to spain you watch how many of those

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[ __ ] even there's going to be an exodus of the country or people are going to find a way to go back to work

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because people in puerto rico don't want to work what they want to do is have [ __ ] a million kids and have the welfare system give them a lot of money

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go on go on on food stamps because that's what they do i grew up there and that would that was the [ __ ] scam of

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the century you know how many people were on disability and they were just wandering around driving datsun 210

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souped up with turbos and [ __ ] jump driving there is a bill [ __ ] retirement that is open i don't know that's where we're gonna go keep saying

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[ __ ] sorry folks there's a bill that was introduced in congress last year march of last year

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to to accept puerto rico as a state and it'll be denied well i'll bet your money it

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hasn't been it hasn't been voted on okay but i'll bet your money they've had committee hearings the latter the last the last

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action or they've called action for the last movement on this was june of last year they had committee hearings but then no

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nothing nothing happened i'll bet money i'll bet anybody money it'll be denied

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easy well i'm curious and if it gets denied

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and puerto rico actually becomes separated from the united states and is no longer going to have that territory status watch puerto rico get humble real

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quick because now they feel like holy [ __ ] we're going to turn into cuba well yeah you know what guess what you should have

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thought of that years ago when you were all being [ __ ] earning the [ __ ] hatred and disdain

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from all the other latin americans okay so the bottom line is they they they the latest referendum uh uh the results were

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overwhelming yes there's a bill out in in congress so it may it may happen i

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don't know and i don't we don't know without without checking that money it's not going to happen and and we also

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don't know how many times if any uh they've the houses or any branch or any

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house of uh i mean chamber excuse me of of congress has um

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oh yeah but then you've got the corruption in puerto rico it's just so it's so rampant

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when a hurricane what is it maria was in 2017 or 2016.

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oh i know what you know it's and i don't remember the hurricane name but yeah

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right well first of all they said that no resources were sent you got the mayor of san juan standing in front of

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i mean i don't even know how many pallets of water saying the u.s didn't send us anything well let me trump didn't send

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us anything but she's saying it's standing in front of i mean it could be 50 to whatever more pallets of just

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water and then the entire island was against trump because he also said that it's the

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most corrupt place i'm here to tell you right now unlike your brain dominic leon i grew up in puerto rico puerto rico corruption is an everyday

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part of life that's the way it is ask me the crawlers sure yes sir all right let's talk about

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something i want to talk about let's talk about that damn [ __ ] crawler now i'm i'm jazzed up

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now or gosh darn it because we might have some religions

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so we are we are all we are all about diversity and inclusion here on iraq and great so if

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you're religious you're welcome to be here if you're not religious you're welcome to be here matter of fact uh we encourage the the atheists to have uh

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spirited discussions with the uh but if you believe in free will and the first amendment don't pay attention to me just

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let me be okay let's finish the police threat please

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i've i've known many many police officers uh most mostly that i've met through the military

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meaning like in the reserve a lot of reservists are police officers right i'm gonna say a lot like a

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statistically significant percentage right every unit i've been in a buddy of mine a buddy of mine dan johnson if you're watching dan shout out to dan

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johnson he was in the army good buddy of mine and we became a sheriff in columbus ohio

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i love this guy because he's dealing with it no that's my name shout out to my career shout out to mike

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jeremy esquire uh mikejamietolaw.com um dan johnson became a sheriff and his

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main job was and i love him for this man i wish i could see him and i'd give him the biggest hug and i'd buy him whatever he wanted

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he looks for he's the guy that does the uh what is

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that the the dateline whatever it is uh catching a predator to catch a predator to catch it he

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doesn't he doesn't do he does that but he does the police side of it where you know they pose as like their

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11 10 year old kids and these [ __ ] pedophile pieces of [ __ ] are talking to him online

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and they try to meet up with him no no no i'm saying but that's what he does in the police okay he does the same thing he hasn't been on the show so he doesn't

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do i'm just saying i'm saying it's a ketchup editor so our viewers and our listeners know kind of in context what i'm talking about

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so he does sexual predator busts pedophiles all these scumbags he's the one doing it and i love him for it all

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right so anyway just back let's let's stay on topic go ahead every every

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every army reserve and national guard unit that i've been it has has had several hand pulls of cops and everyone tells stories right

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it's a safe space as it should be to talk about what would you do for work would you do that work cool

27:32

i've heard enough of the cops too much put them on the spot yeah well i'm not talking i'm not i'm not naming names i'm ain't no snitch

27:39

at the same time though i've heard enough of them tell me stories where and it's nothing major they're not

27:46

beating anybody up they're not you know it's it's within

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it's within their their scope of power if you will right so for example

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and there there have been social media videos or videos on social media i know certain social media is is sort of

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it's it's a small percentage of the stops but at the same time there's consistency

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between some videos and the stories that that folks told me which is somebody somebody uh or a police officer

28:19

stopped somebody for a traffic stop and they're they're being an [ __ ] to them they're mouthing off

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and the police officer because it's their right because they have the right if they feel threatened or for their

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safety to ask somebody to step out of the vehicle and search them so

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and this isn't all the time this isn't all cops right and and so this is it's it's take this with a grain of salt

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but they have told me that there have been times where somebody's mouthing off to them and

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for all intents and purposes the the only reason they were they had asked the individual to step out of the vehicle

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was because they were mouthing off to them now of course the reason that they give is is because they they felt threatened

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is it a is that a major uh flex or or abuse of power

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no but i get it though but at the end of the day i don't want to say it's reasonable

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at the end of the day as long as the person wasn't wasn't uh impacted outside of get

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maybe getting a ticket at the end of the day they walk away fine okay you're pissed off yeah and the cop feels like

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they they won right i get it though you mean you but it's nobody likes nobody i don't see here's but it is an abuse

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because unless you feel threatened you shouldn't be asking somebody to step out of the vehicle and if you admit

29:35

if you openly admit that your there are times when you only have somebody to step out of the vehicle because they're mouthing off to you that that is an

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abuse is it a major no but it is it is a use of their authority that is not in

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line with the reason that they were given that authority okay that's the bottom line all right and that in turn that is the definition of an abuse

29:54

that's right i agree a hundred percent now all i'm saying though

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in uh i don't know if it's in defense of police dude because i've seen a lot of videos of these cops doing

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doing [ __ ] for i know i mean really no apparent reason we were there no i wasn't there and i

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can't i can't you know we don't know what happened before somebody started recording and and their definition of mouthing off is a very it's a very it's

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a very subjective thing um but i have you know being in new york

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for most of my life i have actually seen situations where like i've been speeding and i've been

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stopped by the police and you know they asked me you know like why are you speeding i said well i gotta take a [ __ ]

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like that's not an excuse i'm like i know but you asked me so that's that's what it is and i give my license registration i

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know what i was doing i realized though it all depends on my tone and how i respond to these cops and

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how they're going to interact with me and at least that's been my

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you know uh my experience i can't speak for everybody of course because we already have

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a plenty of evidence saying that it doesn't matter what you say or even if you don't say anything there are police

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officers that will abuse you know certain powers that they have or don't don't even have made up on the flag but

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that's that in a way that's that's another that's another thing meaning

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um sometimes how you respond to a police officer not not what you're saying not

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the content but how are you saying sometimes it'll impact the outcome and sometimes not so so the the thread here

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is what conversations should you have with a police officer none and

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and every video i've seen these are videos right but i mean and generally the consensus among defense

31:43

attorneys or even attorneys in general even prosecutors i've had one of my good friends is a former prosecutor in new

31:49

york assistant uh defense attorney or assistant distributor to keep your mouth shut that's right why

31:54

even police officers that are trying to do the right thing and that are honest and good

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have a job to do and if you are doing something illegal or you say something incriminating it can and will be used

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against you that's right absolutely so it's not even pleading the fifth it's just keep your

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mouth shut yeah i i i don't even say i plead the fifth just don't say [ __ ] that's right i i i follow this one uh

32:19

this one attorney uh is it the blonde guy that smokes weed yeah yeah his brother i think this is the brother

32:25

yes that's right from california yeah

32:40

follow us back uh rocket brain aggregate podcast who are these guys now i want to know because i follow them too

32:48

so but anyway we're both we both know what we're talking about

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they they they tell you hey cop asks you if a cop seems to be

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acting friendly and asks questions about about your day or just you know small talk

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it's not really small talk although some cops maybe are genuinely doing it but they're taught to just have small talk

33:12

why it sets you up it sets a set up it's set up is a struggle right but it allows

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you to it facilitates the door opening to you saying something uh um indicating

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that you may may have broken the law right so cop's like hey where are you coming from

33:31

there you are shout out to pop brothers at law pot brothers what is it pop brothers at law there you are

33:38

follow them they're really good we follow them we think they're great again sorry i don't know your name

33:44

that's a scrapbook by the way they come up on my newsfeed probably because i i watch the videos i follow but i i have yet to hit follow on

33:51

them but hey listen pop brothers of law if you if you subscribe to us and you follow our podcast uh and add us uh on

33:57

all the social media i will follow you right back and we'll give you shout outs all you want i'm gonna step off screen two seconds because i'm gonna refill uh

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you know what i think that's uh it's a bio break as we say no we're not gonna take a break keep going i'm just gonna

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start breaking you okay fine good yeah yeah it's just me this is what we do here but

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yeah but we've we've never done this i've never suggested by i feel

34:33

you're kind of more extra dewy today but that's okay that's all right i don't know if it's the glasses or the nose

34:39

you know what i think it's the glasses it looks like one of those glasses or my you know what i recently refilled

34:44

my um my gold uh

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uh and they might be a little swallow that that's why i look a little uh a little bloated a little bloated is that

34:56

water is that not enough for you okay what are oh you're only doing i'm not

35:03

trying okay do i look like that's too much does it look like i need to be on a diet no not at all i definitely but i

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listen you're right for our listeners and subscribers you all think i'm fat

35:14

there's no reason i'm bloated i don't think i'm going to share that with everybody but i have a good reason so

35:20

who has been following johnny depp i did johnny i've seen some quick matter

35:26

of fact the reason i bring it up is because i i was i got lost in in youtube video

35:31

recommendations today and somehow i ended up uh literally i i was i was watching

35:37

i it was a rabbit hole that that our our channel took took me down i was i rewatched the preview to wreck your

35:44

brain oh you're wearing your tinfoil hat that errors gave you shout out we're shouting out to everybody today

35:50

um anyway so i i just watched our preview and i and i left i left my web browser or minimize my web browser our

35:58

video ended and took me straight to footage of the johnny depp trial the live the live feed it wasn't live it was

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just a clip apparently i i didn't know this but i

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it seems consistent with with what i know about johnny depp's public personas that he's genuinely a good guy

36:14

maybe a weirdo but a good guy that's what i'm saying if johnny depp is found innocent in all this well the

36:21

current trial it's not against him right it's anti-defamation lawsuit against against his his ex right right his trial

36:28

i believe against amber heard it yeah and so his trial is really finished right but i'm saying if he comes out of

36:35

all this looking much better than he did previously

36:40

as far as i understand disney kicked him off of the pirates of the caribbean because of yeah oh yeah he wasn't he

36:46

wasn't going to be in pirates of the caribbean anymore which kind of defeats the whole purpose of watching it can okay

36:51

we're going to i'm just going to plant the seed of the next thread or or something else

36:57

yeah which is a permaculture thing you're good at planting seeds planting planting

37:02

seeds and planting things anyway um there there has been for quite some time

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uh a a an attempt a movement whatever you want to call it a a

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a position from from the left more so the left

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which stems from a um a good place it stems from from

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uh i don't know a an attempt to uh to expose

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abusers right i mean or or defend people who have who have been abused either either sexually or in any other way

37:40

right which is to take their word immediately

37:45

at face value no questions asked and right and

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uh um that's backfired for them well it's numerous they might have backfired but it's but i get it though you're

37:56

right they that comes with a good place but please it doesn't come from third place but what they've done is they now

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they they enact for lack of a better word punitive action against people who've merely been

38:08

accused of something an accusation in and of itself is not

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evidence or proof of anything it is just it's a um

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a trigger or it should be a trigger for an investigation for for uncovering of

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facts and evidence absolutely anybody who who comes forward as and and claims that they're a victim should not be uh

38:32

discounted or or so i'm gonna i'm gonna disregard it

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anybody who comes forth as a victim should not be disregarded absolutely that is entirely different

38:45

from immediately acting as if their word is

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is fact is uh is verified and and and canceling someone or or firing someone

38:57

or this or boxing or whatever right this is why this subject really touches me on a

39:03

personal level now who touched it well the whole iron i know no um

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the whole accusation thing and i'm gonna i'm gonna get personal with this one because right now again

39:16

we've been seeing people get accused and that's all you need and they will go after them whether or not they know if

39:21

they did it or not whether or not they understand that it's an accusation or a false accusation or not they don't care

39:27

you were accused and they're going to punish them oh yeah they punish them but now here's why the absence of verification here's why that

39:35

bothers me now and now i'm going to go personal i don't even think i've ever told you this before

39:41

for years when i grew up in puerto rico i went in there in 1989 i'm old

39:46

and i've always told my father i hate it here i don't like it here i don't want to live in puerto rico and that's part

39:51

of the reason that in 97 i chose to escape with by any means i could

39:58

um you know and i've had arguments with my spouse because things happen and i get i don't one of my pet peeves is and i i

40:05

had there's a point to all this is i don't like being accused of things they didn't do

40:12

nobody does it but in particular like i i take very very it affects me emotionally and like i get i get angry

40:19

and the reason being is um and i found out why actually very recently

40:24

is that anything could happen in the house me growing i grew up with my grandparents and immediately my grandparents would blame

40:32

me or my my brother or my sister immediately and i remember this one time there was a

40:38

phone call to columbia back in like 1990 or 91. my grandfather

40:44

my grandmother said well only only a couple of people could have done it it must have been them and then you know

40:50

eventually it kind of trickled down to me and i got this [ __ ] kicked out of me

40:56

at the time i may been like 11 years old and my first question was where's columbia

41:02

what do you what are you talking about so being accused of something you didn't

41:07

do is is a very serious thing now and i don't want to call it abuse i

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don't want to say abuse because people from that era like my grandparents grew up in a different kind of a a time

41:21

when you know hitting your kids was a thing now they didn't abuse me

41:27

you know i didn't i never had to miss a day of school because i was all [ __ ] up like i still went to school

41:33

but i did get punished and hit and all these things but meanwhile i always knew like i'm getting hit and punished and

41:39

accused of doing things i had no knowledge of but once the beating was delivered

41:45

and the punishment was was put in place there was no more talk of it so in other words the justification or the the

41:53

justice was served to the accused whether they were guilty or not meaning me

41:59

and i can't i'm not going to go in details for every little thing i was accused of but i mean in my i mean my

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siblings know what they were come to find out last month maybe i want

42:11

to say maybe three weeks ago we found this out that my grandmother has been cheating on

42:17

my grandfather for the past 30 years or like 30 30 some odd years the dude

42:22

from colgate with a dude from [ __ ] colombia named cesar

42:28

i got you [ __ ] and how he found out is because facebook facebook is a wonderful tool when you want to catch

42:34

somebody and some [ __ ] and she's been cheating on my grandfather for the past 30 plus years with this guy in colombia

42:41

sending him money talking to him he would visit they would see each other outside while my grandfather was working

42:47

he would go to [ __ ] puerto rico because they had you know if you're from south america it's not a difficult thing to go to puerto rico and if you're

42:53

puerto rican you can go to colombia it's not that difficult you know we have avid fans we might have fans in

43:00

colombia yeah i don't know if you want to listen to them to find this guy listen i'll give you look dm me the end

43:06

my son thing i'll give you all this information do me a solid this guy's been cheating

43:11

with my grandmother just have a conversation we don't encourage violence we don't insurance violence just have a conversation

43:18

but we like justice justice what i mean so now here's like

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justified we like justify justice don't don't hurt this guy [ __ ] it it is what it is

43:28

but now think of it now and and you know the america's terms where how many people have been accused without

43:35

evidence without proof without anything and immediately you have the the mob of

43:41

public opinion the mob of of public you know personnel the mob of like i'm gonna

43:47

take their word for it no matter what and then they turn around and after the facts come out after you have the

43:52

evidence after you've after you've dragged these people's names and families through the [ __ ] mud and

43:57

made them feel like complete [ __ ] you realize like oh man they were innocent this whole time i

44:03

just jumped the gun because everybody else is doing it the point is there's a difference between

44:08

between not discounting and accusation right because that look into it yeah that's

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right because it it i don't know if the word historically right but in years past

44:19

things were swept under the rug the army this this happened oh no listen

44:24

we both know that actually the army should happen and should happen today tomorrow's like what are you talking

44:30

about exactly i think i don't know so and they'll give you a look like shut the [ __ ] up that's right so so what what

44:36

what what some people have done but mainly mainly is if they've taken a good thing which

44:43

is which is taking an accusation seriously

44:49

and turned it into taking an accusation as a as a as verification of guilt or or

44:56

um uh like a guilty verdict thing it literally proved proof as if something

45:05

it literally became you were accused and it's almost as like we were back in

45:11

the what is it the 1400s somebody said you're a witch the whole village came at you with fire and pitch forward you're

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[ __ ] you're guilty that's it you're guilty of the witch i hate this guy's a nice

45:23

guy i've known him he'll take his word for it i hate this term because because of uh how it's been

45:29

applied in the last five years i knew you were going to build a witch hunt but but hey be careful the wiccans

45:35

will come after us uh but they turn it into a witch or it's

45:42

an unjustified which one that's right again nobody is saying a a an accusation

45:47

should not be investigated and verified you have to look into it that that's right absolutely any any time somebody

45:53

raises their hand says hey somebody did something to me even even if i'm even if i'm the surface

45:59

or face value oh i'm sorry not to interrupt you but i missed the point the whole point of me

46:06

saying the story that my grandmother was cheating on my grandfather for 30 plus years is because all the accusations

46:11

were to shift away the blame and well shift away like the heat off of her

46:18

she's like well the kids can get beat and i'll be fine as long as he never discovers what i'm doing the kids will

46:23

survive that was her main goal you haven't seen the whole family

46:40

part of the premise like disney disney really hit the nail on the head which is or or sorry let me let me rephrase i

46:47

think disney's been missing the moment well hold on hold on hold on so in this case does disney hit the market disney

46:53

just [ __ ] the big time in the sense they've seen their stock friends forget the cycles no they didn't they did not

46:59

shoot the bed the matter of fact florida is going to be hurt more more from from what florida's doing to disney that they just did it already they don't know they

47:05

did it but it's disney's uh florida's gonna because tourism tourism i think mostly tourism um i

47:11

haven't read the announcements i disagree but go ahead i mean no matter what i mean it doesn't matter

47:17

it doesn't matter but but there have been like professional analysis on on this and at least economically i think

47:23

florida's gonna hurt professionals and what i think i think business or economics i've read that we've probably never been

47:30

there what does that have to do with anything like if if somebody is if somebody is do you think puerto rico is beautiful

47:36

exactly have you ever been to disney i have i've been to zero okay actually

47:42

that's what's to do with anything it's like if somebody is an expert on on

47:47

alcohol public unlike public sector projects happening here for intelligence you're the smart one i'm just the [ __ ] you

47:54

know eye candy on the side here barely i know really anyway

48:00

so so but here's you know experts expert opinion matters what's the point of having experts it does

48:06

like literally it's it's like who can call themselves an expert anyone at this point sure they're there there may or may not

48:13

be barriers in college in college i learned this and i don't even think a lot of you people know this out there in college i learned this he doesn't mean

48:19

you people he just i mean you people you all you people out there listening not you people

48:26

all the listeners and subscribers yeah i learned this in college you don't have

48:31

to be a doctor to be a scientist

48:37

slow down you don't have to be a doctor to be a scientist you don't have to be a phd or

48:42

a master's and you also don't have to be a scientist to be a doctor that's precise but most people that call themselves

48:48

scientists are are doctors or phds but you don't have to be

48:55

it's all about what you're doing as far as that research is concerned and if you're conducting research in a science

49:01

if you're conducting scientific research then you're a scientist but you know that's fair but you don't have to be a doctor or a phd no to do so no but most

49:08

people think it you have to be i don't i don't know if most people think that i think most people think

49:21

yeah that's true but they're not i love to think that i'm smart but i know i'm not that's why you hang around him the

49:27

key in life is always hanging around people who are smarter than you to make yourself always think about the jew listen that's why i'm at this house

49:35

sweating because it's 97 degrees oh my god i'm gonna i'll be right back okay you got dominic here for 30

49:43

you open seconds window so we can get all the cricket sounds show off this nice little

49:48

this grunt style shirt zoom in on that oh yeah let's hear the crickets let's

49:54

get all the noise from outside ladies and gentlemen such a sweetheart what he does what a

50:00

baby what a baby i am a baby what do you want me to do okay uh where were we puerto rico so

50:08

i said scientists because of the scientists well listen it's the same thing as like

50:14

who can call themselves a fact checker anybody at this [ __ ] point

50:19

we fact check so much on this show we're fact checkers does that mean we get a certificate

50:24

saying hey we're certified fact checkers i dominic dominic is going to keep me

50:31

honest with this i'm finally going to post the the po box okay on all the social media please send us two

50:38

certificates of fact check authenticity please do please do oh we'd love it that we would

50:44

love it or email it i guess you could email it yeah or give us the dot com to send us to wherever we have to take an

50:50

exam to be fact check certified no no no no i don't i don't want to i don't want to do anything other than say

50:56

publicly i am a fact checker please take my word for it keyword being pleased meaning you don't

51:03

have to if you don't want to or you have to if you're listening you're a member jews run the world he'll

51:08

know i'm going to stick my laser on you he's in the union yes

51:14

okay um let's see okay but we've we've opened so many

51:20

threads i know this is like having a website when you go on chrome and then you open all these tabs it's like holy [ __ ] where

51:26

do we go there is something we were just talking about we started with police

51:32

and then we passed that yeah

51:39

but right before florida we were talking about something else encounter

51:46

that's right so the part of the premise of the movie spoilers alert if you haven't seen it uh the part

51:52

of the premise of the movie is that the the hispanic abuela at the end admits that she was wrong

51:58

but every hispanic knows

52:04

and she doesn't even need to be hispanic that goes up listen sicilians italians jewish no grandma no no no

52:12

ever gonna admit she's wrong she's gonna figure out a way to spin it and say well you know what the only

52:17

reason i said that is because you came at me with this and if you hadn't said that she's going to emphasize how it's

52:23

all your fault anyway that's how you know the movie is fiction aside from the magical characters aside

52:28

from the magical characters the fact that the whole movie was fact that was the only part that was fictional actually

52:36

in colombia actually actually it took place on a disney screen that's it that was drawn

52:42

this is how you know disney people have never known any hispanic people no and when any hispanic people saw that

52:48

they walked out of the theater going ah these what that's such below

53:03

yeah what he said they don't know any hispanic people if they would have known at least one

53:08

hispanic although the reality is that disney i'm sure employs very diverse

53:13

oh sure to clean up the parks yeah let's be honest with you you put on a [ __ ] mickey mouse costume or you're

53:20

sweeping something up they got the one yeah they had the one black guy in the

53:26

documentary that they glorified for being like the the animator so what what

53:31

he's a famous black guy that was a disney animator and it has been one for like forever but where is everybody else

53:36

what documentary oh this was when i saw a while ago oh my god i can't even remember it was called disney something

53:42

that told you the whole story and it was telling i think it was on netflix and they showed you the story about the black guy i can't remember his

53:49

name he was one of the first if not the first black guy animator for disney and

53:54

they talked about him forever and i don't know his name i think it starts with an age i can't remember okay

54:00

the demographics okay uh of of walt disney world 54.7 a lot of them is going to be

54:07

hispanic because it's in orlando is female and so it's a majority and

54:12

42.8 percent i don't say female because we don't even know if they identify as female but remember females get paid

54:18

less so you know oh we'll we'll touch on that in a moment

54:24

54.7 female 42.8 ethnic minority you know some people

54:30

would say so females there's female and then ethnic minority well some of the ethnics

54:36

some of the ethnic minorities are uh cancer ethnics some of the ethnic minorities

54:41

are uh i'm sure are female right but but the fact that they don't have

54:49

in at least 50 percent ethnic minority employees some would call that racist

54:56

some would but i mean it doesn't make a difference to me what matters to me is i don't care how

55:01

many minorities or ethnics you you employ i don't care you can't shoot

55:06

anything please don't please do this ethnic minorities or whatever it is you

55:12

want to say i don't i don't care how you employ them i mean i don't care how many you have employed it's not my purpose it's where

55:18

are they employed what are they doing for the company are you giving them an opportunity to grow within a certain

55:24

area of your company that's not [ __ ] cleaning up after a bunch of white kids on vacation

55:30

um that's a legitimate one it is and actually it's the same thing with with uh all these big organizations

55:36

uh making making a big deal and using for marketing the fact that they hire veterans right like have you ever been

55:43

to a veterans career yeah that's a great point

55:52

oh they put a fancy name to it they want you to be the the um what the maintenance engineer like [ __ ] you want

55:57

me to push a [ __ ] broom waist disposal you i'm a garbage man

56:02

[ __ ] give me a break and they put walmart on this [ __ ] walmart says we want to hire 10 000 veterans to do what you what

56:10

the greek people welcome to walmart yeah i'm here only so i don't [ __ ] kill you yeah that's what does that what you

56:15

want to do listen i think the way they do this whole thing with ethnic minorities and veterans is

56:21

like the new affirmative action and they do it not and i listen

56:27

when affirmative action started if you really read into it it had a good

56:32

purpose or at least a good premise how companies used it i i nobody has control over that unless you're the ceo of those

56:39

companies but it was for intent intended for good purposes like hey listen you know what

56:45

we [ __ ] up we really do need to hire more diverse people we're only hiring

56:50

you know a bunch of white guys and white women and you know how do we look okay let's get a few of them in the

56:56

office and at first yeah they were getting hired for the jobs that they were supposed to be doing but then they

57:02

noticed hey oh listen we don't have to [ __ ] hire these people for big jobs we just have to get them in the

57:07

conversation we just need the numbers to meet the diversity quotas to meet the [ __ ] ethnic diversity [ __ ] you know so

57:15

just enough so people don't call us a racist company so and it replaces the same thing oh we

57:20

help veterans yeah we we do all these things let me tell you something in 2015 i got out of the army

57:28

and and this was december of 2015 this is when i was officially released boom here you go here's your little dragon

57:34

stand by the fort bragg have a nice day good luck and this was before

57:39

they had every little [ __ ] stop and one stop they called this field like oh let's teach you how to assimilate back

57:45

into society they still haven't done that transition no transition assistance here like you

57:50

just had to make sure you gave all your [ __ ] back all your equipment all this that and they hear a little dragon salmon they say [ __ ] good luck that's

57:57

it it's up to you the rest of your life so uh so it's really great that's that's

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changed has changed it has changed but again it's it's

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the the military is not immune from having stupid people working for it they're human beings they're human

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beings so it's another example of you take a good idea and you corrupt it and and take it

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to the extreme

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in 2015 i gotta before what charlie just said in the transition period we didn't have that

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while i was looking for a job and here i am still young and i was always under the this this this fantasy of because

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i've heard so many people say i'm sure you've heard of oh you're in the military oh as soon as you go to work anybody will take you

58:49

they'll hire veterans left and right yet all right i applied to three different places

58:56

and i was over qualified for these jobs what type of place don't no don't name them i'm not going to name them but

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what's up retail what was no no not retail even though reconstruction what was it because of my military background in

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construction i had the ability to do certain things so these were all constructed

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two of them were two of them were one was a logistics job the logistics guy was the one that was

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honest with me the two construction companies didn't hire me um

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the logistics guy was the one he said listen man um don't leave

59:30

i can't hire you but don't leave just give me a few minutes let me talk to you outside

59:36

it's a black guy nice guy took me outside and said listen man no company's gonna hire you right now at

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least not right now you just got out in 2015 and it was now

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like uh 2016 like mid-january he goes

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and i guess they have a system in new york city that when you're applying for jobs a lot of other companies i'm like oh i see you applied here you applied

59:58

there you applied there well would you apply for like in new york city like like yeah like one of those you know veterans go through [ __ ]

1:00:05

work for a job board yeah yeah this guy said no one's gonna hire you right now

1:00:10

you're gonna have to look for something like kind of mediocre and there and then kind of work your way up he said you're

1:00:16

too fresh out of a war and a lot of guy a lot of these guys they all think you're crazy i said what the [ __ ] he he goes that's the legitimate truth

1:00:23

because if i go upstairs right now and i show your resume to these people and they see when you got out knowing that you came straight from afghanistan to

1:00:29

here you'd be like we don't know what's going on with this guy but you can't tell me that you're not going to hire me because you think i'm

1:00:35

crazy because that's discrimination so you'll think of all these other reasons not to hire me but this guy was legitimately honest with me he said

1:00:41

listen it's just not going to happen because of this and what's going to happen is they're not going to hire you and

1:00:47

they're going to come up with 50 other reasons why they're not hiring you but

1:00:52

in reality it's because you're just too fresh out of a war and they don't want to take a risk

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i even signed up for the nypd and my mother was on her knees begging like don't do it i'm like all right i'm not

1:01:03

going to do it so but as far as i understand i had at least six friends

1:01:09

military friends took the nypd test here we are i'm you'll take all the army they'll hire

1:01:16

you took the nypd test they didn't they didn't get hired but did they have did they do well i don't know what the

1:01:22

percentage no they passed everything but some magic [ __ ] thing happened in psyche they didn't pass

1:01:29

all six of them got passed up because of their psyche val fresh out of the army while i had

1:01:35

that that one chinese spy is one of my holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ]

1:01:41

reserve anyway because if you know you know um but did i get my point across was that saying

1:01:47

what i was wanting to say yeah no i mean like veterans are discriminated and any anybody any company's saying they're

1:01:53

higher regulations it's usually for for [ __ ] unfortunately it's in numbers it's a numbers game well it's it's

1:01:58

numbered but also the weird thing is like and perception optics but it's it's also

1:02:04

the weird thing is most people 99 of people be like yeah like does the

1:02:10

veterans bring something to the table they'll genuinely they'll be like yeah of course leadership and planning and

1:02:16

operations and and high all the stress that that come with have having been

1:02:21

with the military but they also know that veterans are not docile robots that if you push a better individual is going

1:02:27

to push back well that's what most companies aside from that what they what they don't what company companies

1:02:33

naturally right private sector companies um that that who's who's whose purpose is

1:02:39

to is to make a profit right corporation um they just like the military

1:02:45

are risk-averse right they want it they want so so if in

1:02:51

the the the i don't know the epitome or the example right is or one of the examples is when

1:02:57

you look at a a job posting it'll have whatever let's say 10 bullet

1:03:02

points recruiters any recruiter i've ever spoken to has actually said like

1:03:08

they don't actually look for people that meet all the bullet points because hiring managers are looking for the

1:03:14

perfect candidate meaning somebody that's done that exact exact thing

1:03:20

day to day right meaning you've done this before and you've and you've done it well your entry into it is going to

1:03:25

be seen exactly because you've done it right but but recruiters they're like yeah

1:03:31

this is it's a pipe dream because because who has done ex i mean some people do right but by and large

1:03:37

uh quality candidates don't necessarily or didn't haven't necessarily have done

1:03:42

the exact thing right so again that back to the military corporation that's like my for example in my resume

1:03:49

when i joined the army i was a knight to romeo that's a parachute rigger i picked parachutes

1:03:54

where am i going to go right you know but then i became a 12 bravo which is combat engineer and so my

1:04:00

option is construction but but demolition that's even then it could be project management it could be uh

1:04:07

uh i don't know how to build explosives and that's what i knew how to do but you also know how to to

1:04:14

uh uh um to use military terms yeah but but also like people how how to

1:04:21

to plan an action against a specified objective of course right not everyone

1:04:26

can can do that well okay but my point is is that organizations while recognizing the

1:04:32

value that a veteran can bring don't want to risk hiring somebody that hasn't done the exact thing that that

1:04:39

ever done organization exact thing that's well some people if you're going from very very few if you're going from

1:04:44

one bank to another you've done badly if you're an mp and you're gonna be a cop it's pretty much the same sure right so

1:04:51

some some people some people have but so so there is logic to to organizations

1:04:56

perspective at the same time though so you're saying it's it's logical and hushed discrimination

1:05:03

based on necessity it is logical and absolutely uh that being said does it

1:05:09

make it right it doesn't make her out absolutely nor does it make sense when you talk to most senior people in

1:05:14

organizations like of course veterans have all this value yeah but they yet they don't want to

1:05:21

take the take the chance right because they think we're [ __ ] crazy not always just because they don't they

1:05:27

don't they don't uh uh if this were not a wartime and i let's say let's say you and i have done

1:05:33

20 years since the gulf war let's say since the gulf war in 91

1:05:38

there had been nothing complete no war and anything that we had gone into any other countries

1:05:45

yeah there would still be discrimination there would still be i don't think so i i disagree there would be because the

1:05:51

majority of my again i've been working in because a war a soldier's war mentality

1:05:57

no matter what their job is in the civilian world people are afraid

1:06:04

but civilians don't know that so again it's it's you i think you're you're you have a very jaded perspective based on

1:06:10

what what's so probably based on maybe experience but also what somebody told you right point blank

1:06:16

i i can tell you having what he was working in the private sector by what he told me sure

1:06:22

at the same time though i mean i've been working in in mostly the private sector side from army reserve and working

1:06:27

private sector my entire career and and i what i have experienced is people are

1:06:33

like no like yeah you're you're a great candidate you have to because of millennials but here's the thing

1:06:39

but here's between you and i here's the difference 14 years you said right 14 years of of

1:06:46

national guard and reserve versus 17 years of pure active duty but i'm

1:06:52

telling you there's a difference though that there's a difference between experience but what i'm telling you is what companies see

1:06:58

is yes quality because then here comes the knife quality

1:07:04

because of you know you can't put this disrespectful um quality because of military service but

1:07:11

it doesn't line up if you think of a venn diagram doesn't line up enough to to justify a risk that is that is the

1:07:18

rationale 99 percent of the time and maybe somebody's like yeah but also we don't know if it's going to show up maybe but you're saying yes you're

1:07:24

saying it in very competent corporate language break it down i don't know if

1:07:29

this guy's [ __ ] crazy and i don't know if this guy can do the job i don't know if he can do the job regardless

1:07:35

but by saying i don't think he could do the job you're bypassing the logic of it and just saying this guy's a veteran

1:07:42

i don't know if he can do the job but well though why why why do you think he can't do the job for the same reason

1:07:49

but for the same reason arguably that that somebody off the street we see a black guy that's

1:07:56

completely qualified to do the job he said well i don't know if he could do the job no but it's it's i what some

1:08:01

people would would yeah he was because he's black for no other reason no it actually i

1:08:07

mean there have been a woman she's a woman they would say the same thing okay so so

1:08:13

black people discriminated against would is probably due to racism women being discriminated against there is sexism

1:08:19

there they don't want to take to all that women are going to take more time off that's women are going to get upset women always want to do this but

1:08:27

a lot of women are more confrontational when they get so like bringing certain things i agree and i agree but but are

1:08:32

you saying it's illogical are you would you they i would say there's similar

1:08:37

discrimination against women as there is against people in the garden reserve meaning would you if you're an organization and

1:08:44

your main main purpose is keep people working and keep making money would you

1:08:49

rather hire somebody that even has the smallest risk of being away from work

1:08:55

for any period of time a woman a reservist somebody with a disability who might get sick and and it

1:09:02

might have a flare up or something right and by what means am i saying it's right or justified i'm getting it but it is

1:09:07

logical it's a risk that the company is going to take on i get it it is logical right however

1:09:17

however that logic and i'm not and i'm not taking it away from you it is completely

1:09:23

logical what you just said and it makes complete sense but that mentality however from a corporate standpoint is very

1:09:30

1950s well it's it's also against what the trends are right like you know the the

1:09:36

trend well forget the trends it said you have to you have to look at it from a evolved point of view business takes

1:09:43

place a lot differently than it did back in 2000 i mean or 1950 for example any

1:09:49

anybody here has watched mad men that's kind of what my my brain goes you know how business was conducted in

1:09:56

that kind of a time frame and that's that's you know i'm not i wasn't born in the 1950s i know i did dude i was born in

1:10:03

1879 giving birth so but you know a lot of corporations a lot of

1:10:09

big corporations still fall into i mean even if it no fault let

1:10:14

me do you believe in diversity for diversity's sake no

1:10:22

but you your argument what you were just saying is actually that if you think about it meaning please here's here's

1:10:29

and of course anybody's you ask a hundred different people you're gonna get a 110 opinions yeah

1:10:34

but here's what i i believe about today i mean i know i'm curious okay i may have made a mistake please

1:10:42

i don't believe you made a mistake i think you just you didn't think about the incongruence of two different thoughts could be and and suddenly your

1:10:48

brain is like i need to make sense of this let me tell the viewers one thing the shirt might say pride but i am not

1:10:54

proud enough to admit when i'm wrong i will admit if i'm wrong if i made a mistake and more people should do that but please okay

1:11:01

so he here's what what i understand about quote-unquote for diversity for diversity what is what is what is the uh

1:11:09

idea or purpose of no no what is the value of

1:11:14

of diversity can you answer that just having more people of color why in a workplace what for optics so you don't

1:11:21

seem racist some people some sometimes some companies yeah but but but the the

1:11:27

actual that's that's like remember the the the trend in this entire episode hold on take a good idea the reason the

1:11:33

reason i say that is because the reason i say that is because a lot of these companies they'll even brand themselves

1:11:39

like look at how many women we have highlighted how many people so it's the the theme of this episode of

1:11:46

episode nine of racquetball podcast like share subscribe comment uh um

1:12:02

um and support us by uh by donating yeah don't worry i'll set up that patreon and

1:12:08

and send the certificates of fact checkers okay absolutely all those uh

1:12:13

but the theme of this episode has been good ideas can be taken to the extreme

1:12:19

and the good idea or the good part of diversity is organizations

1:12:25

in part run on on um

1:12:30

on being able to solve problems on being able to think through things and something's not right like some things

1:12:36

are paperwork and you do the same thing some things are factory work but but i'm talking about like like

1:12:41

i don't say white collar but but but office type that's racist to say what color is really

1:12:46

white collar um anyway so i have something to say about this the idea is that

1:12:53

that people who have had different experiences because of who or what they

1:13:00

are by virtue of those different experiences

1:13:05

from other people in a way or to some respect think differently

1:13:10

and it is that different thinking that wants to be tapped into or needs to be tapped into

1:13:16

when when when working collaboratively right it is it is the reason and this is another rabbit hole it is the reason

1:13:25

part of the reason of um [Music] oh my god what is the word

1:13:31

not industrialized when you're you're not indoctrinated you're institutionalized it is part of the

1:13:37

reason people who spend 20 years in active duty in the military are institutionalized i

1:13:44

just spent 17 you see i'm institutionalized no that's because you're crazy and that's why i like you

1:13:50

it makes sense it doesn't make sense so why do you think we get along as well um no so but

1:13:55

in a certain sense i don't know maybe and maybe you were maybe eight years ago you were i don't know i didn't know you eight years ago but people that that do

1:14:02

20 years there's there's a certain way of thinking and don't take my word for it there have been many articles written

1:14:08

written about this that the the as as much as the army encourages

1:14:14

um thought meaning like if hey you're you're encouraged if somebody tells you

1:14:19

to to take a hill but you you see because because you know the the objective and end state and intent

1:14:25

and you need to take another hit

1:14:31

at least at least in word as much as it's encouraged at least at least

1:14:38

at least at least with lip service potentially as much as it's talking about

1:14:44

at least it's talked about new marketing very new army okay but as much as it's

1:14:49

talked about at least talked about it talked about he's even at least talked about um

1:14:54

the the uh active duty military at least did you have a stress card when you were in the

1:15:00

army i did not i'm not that young did you have your cell phone and basically i did not though okay uh we

1:15:06

did okay so we didn't have our cell phone what we did have was um how many times did you make a phone call

1:15:12

once a week once a week did you do it oh my god i couldn't make a phone call

1:15:19

until like what we did was six or so what we did have was not stress cards we had a complaint box complaint yes

1:15:26

oh my god there was a complaint box and the i believe it was the basic training

1:15:31

battalion commander he would read them and one time somebody wrote our our phone calls aren't long enough and they

1:15:37

like extended everyone's phone call about like five minutes oh my god if i

1:15:42

would have complained about my drills listen my drill sergeant once spoke to me so close

1:15:49

this spit was landing on my lips my nose my eyeballs and i had to stand there and

1:15:55

look straight ahead and god forbid i looked at this guy if i made eye contact with this all the

1:16:01

drill sergeants in my time forget i wouldn't even be speaking to you guys but i'd be dead somewhere buried in fort

1:16:06

jackson i'd be dead you know what a drill sergeant said to me once in 2008 he goes if you if you had been invasive

1:16:12

training this is a drill search and saying this to me to my face this was toward the end of basic and they were acting more human he goes uh [ __ ] it's

1:16:19

like if if you had been in basic training when i went to basic training they would have taken you into the woods so many times to beat the ship

1:16:27

let me tell you this and it wasn't the drill sergeants i mean you would have been with this right they

1:16:32

would have told two two privates hey take him into the woods and don't get them into it so this is a story from ait

1:16:38

from my time we had it then just to kind of sidestep here the story this is this is to

1:16:43

differentiate these [ __ ] army stories here in the i.t we had this one guy we were in fort lee

1:16:48

virginia and uh this guy [ __ ] smelled so he smelled like a monkey yeah and i told

1:16:54

you sorry right can you do the cook's house because i've heard this okay remind me for our listeners so anyway female dress sergeant she's coming up we

1:17:00

don't know she's coming up we're having this argument she comes and she goes what the [ __ ] that smell she gets the other drill sergeants they break this

1:17:06

guy's wall locker and all the skulls fall out they smell like ammonia and piss and he gets in after we came in

1:17:12

from the field gets into his rack dirty muddy all full of [ __ ] and we're on them like [ __ ] glue and the drill side

1:17:18

says take him outside and wash him we're like what he wants to do she said you're hurt [ __ ] hurt me i'm old enough i'm

1:17:23

not going to repeat myself [ __ ] do what i just told you to do female juice sergeant took them out at nighttime

1:17:29

around the [ __ ] barracks stripped him butt naked she handed us comet or what do you know the ajax

1:17:36

powder comment [ __ ] yeah and green scrub pads and she says get to work boys i was like what the [ __ ] yup and she watched

1:17:43

us host him down hold him down and scrub him while the other two girl sergeants

1:17:48

up on the third floor were draining his [ __ ] they emptied his [ __ ] wall locker put it all in garbage bags put it

1:17:55

in the hallway and he and we embarrassed his poor kid and he was bleeding from all his heart as we were scrubbing him

1:18:01

because she watched us do it she goes nope you're not done we even have one of those [ __ ] toilet brushes and she

1:18:06

watched us this is 1998 fort lee virginia if you're a [ __ ] dirt dirtbag back

1:18:11

then that's what you would have gotten i went to ait at fort lee right oh 2011. oh that was the [ __ ] oh

1:18:17

when i was in lewistown it was 92 yankees oh well that's where all 92 series ago because at the time it was the knights of romeo yesterday so if

1:18:23

you're 92 yankee or n2 alpha that's where you were to go yeah i think march warrior affairs also wins it for fort

1:18:28

lee virginia and there's another one i don't know it's all logistics yeah it's very much but we were the only airborne

1:18:35

ones because we were parachute riggers so it was cool because the whole fort would come the whole post would come see

1:18:40

us i don't know i think no i don't think so

1:18:45

no i don't know because this will just i don't know maybe it's different no i don't think so but anyway

1:18:51

um but needless to say that army is very different from the one i joined which is the diff different from from today's

1:18:57

argument it's very different from today's army so anyway well my point is is that institutionalization is a thing

1:19:02

don't take my word for it people have written about this here's another point the whole thing with the gays in the army no no this is

1:19:08

an important thing the gays in the army was a big thing back in my day let me tell you something everybody who's listening i don't give a [ __ ] i'm gay so

1:19:15

what and you know who knew everybody you don't care nobody because all they care about was about can leon do the job

1:19:22

nobody asked listen i actually made more friends drill sergeants included that knew i was

1:19:28

gay didn't give a [ __ ] because nobody made it a big deal as long as i could do what i was supposed to do kept my mouth

1:19:33

shut soldier and [ __ ] moved on and moved to the purpose then and i never dragged ass as soon as

1:19:39

as long as i did that there was never a complaint i went from fort jackson to fort benning to fort lee to fort bragg

1:19:46

to fort leonard wood back to fort bragg to camp rogers and back to fort bragg you know who knew everybody and you know

1:19:53

who gave a [ __ ] no one you know who makes a big deal out of the [ __ ] gays in the military everybody that's a

1:19:58

[ __ ] four or five star general above and i don't even think how many five-star journals are there maybe one right now i don't know

1:20:05

i can tell you this i can tell you no there's no fun no there's no five songs

1:20:10

what was the last one um where was his name no no no no no no he was no he was in that gulf war what was his name big

1:20:16

schwarzkopf but uh no so there's there is only there

1:20:22

are only approximately 300 generals in the army and that's both

1:20:27

active duty and that's brigadier general that's all

1:20:32

through four star um and and that might not just be army actually that might be that might be dod

1:20:38

yeah um what are you looking schwarzkopf was five star last five star general okay and i'm gonna look up how many no no no

1:20:46

i was wrong world war ii uh not even that korean dude nope

1:20:54

this can't be right no this cannot because that's it army omar bradley

1:21:00

bradley this [ __ ] bradley in 1980 no he died in 81 no

1:21:06

well he might have died in 81 but when was he active duty as an actual fighter and that's the dude how many journals in

1:21:13

the u.s military and generals

1:21:20

231 in the army 62 marine corps 198 air force and 162 navy

1:21:26

less than 300 in the army less than 100 in the marine corp you're listening this yeah yeah less than 200 in there the

1:21:32

marines actually do the marines don't um they're so small promotion in the marines is like

1:21:40

a snail moves faster than promotion yeah but they're also a smaller force right like the number of generals is determined by

1:21:46

the number of journals that they need like not everybody makes general but they need an x number but they're they're smaller

1:21:52

no so i was that was close we're talking about let's say let's call this 200

1:21:57

360 420 620 650 there's less than 700 generals

1:22:04

but who was the last five star anyway to the point though the only people who cared about gays in

1:22:10

the military were the bureaucrats as far as soldiers were concerned we all knew who we were because we were in the

1:22:16

[ __ ] barracks living with each other everybody knows who everybody is and everybody knows what everybody does but

1:22:23

as long as you don't push that [ __ ] on everybody else and you have self-respect and you have self-respect and you you um

1:22:30

and you did your job and you didn't [ __ ] people and you didn't make people feel uncomfortable nobody gave a

1:22:36

[ __ ] what you did nobody i never had and i'm not saying that for myself i knew a lot of others

1:22:42

lesbians and gay gay men who were in the military nobody cared

1:22:48

all of us were in there together in the beginning in like basic training yeah you had people say weird [ __ ] remember

1:22:55

they're coming off the block off the block block that we say in cadence they're still coming with that street

1:23:00

[ __ ] by week six if you would have said anything about that gay soldier to

1:23:05

his battle buddy they would have [ __ ] you up that's it no zero tolerance

1:23:11

and as soon as they get to their duty station and you see all these people have each other's backs if anybody from outside would have said anything to them

1:23:17

the entire unit would have [ __ ] jumped you the only people who cared about it was the bureaucrats so this whole gaze in

1:23:24

the military [ __ ] you're making it a big deal because you want to this is it's it's a it's a rabbit okay so omar

1:23:30

bradley was the last

1:23:40

you would only be ranked five-star general or promoted to that rank during a time of war yes so

1:23:46

listen uh he was promoted during world war two to five stars he was the last to be promoted

1:23:52

in history in the us army earliest military during world war ii yeah and he held

1:23:58

that for the rest of his life okay i mean you don't get demoted no exactly at least there's an officer

1:24:05

enlisted but that is an officer i mean yeah he died at night so nobody since world war ii has been made five star

1:24:12

but the rank was only retired when he died in 1981 so that's 45 to 81 it

1:24:18

existed nobody got it he was the last one yeah and then they made it

1:24:24

so officially you could only really be a four-star that's right right now either either

1:24:29

admiral or general so where did we get the idea that schwarzkopf was a five star

1:24:35

i'm older maybe they've talked about it maybe they talk no i'm saying i'm older than you and i remember distinctly they were having this conversation maybe they

1:24:41

were talking about petraeus too they wanted to make the trace during petraeus but also what's his name powell they

1:24:47

spoke about powell yeah and they just local so again this is this is before this is most of our listeners before i'm

1:24:54

old i don't know i look good i look like i'm very young he he served under stonewall jackson

1:25:00

okay so it was it wasn't so much confederate journal and i have served under lee

1:25:05

general lee also confederate army that's right they definitely wouldn't have taken you uh uh anyway so sound through

1:25:12

runners again okay i'm in the south now i have last

1:25:17

thought on on institutionalization in the military and whether and the fact that in distributed fact that it breeds

1:25:25

very similar thought processes that's why a lot of solutions are are i don't

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say cookie cutter but like it's it's tough to find unique thought in the military even even among

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officers they'll deny this but i can tell you as somebody who is one foot in the in the military and one foot out

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half outside or half insider whenever i've deployed my ideas have come out of left field and my ideas will shut down

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maybe there's shitty ideas maybe i'm useless and an idiot i don't know i listen i don't think so i disagree i

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think your your ideas are probably on the [ __ ] money but because most of the ideas you're pitching to people who

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have that had steadfast military mentality they don't know how to think outside of that they don't and once you

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present an idea that could make 100 sense two things are going to happen they're going to say that makes no sense

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number one because it military-wise they don't think how they don't see how it makes sense number two and this is a

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thing that the army [ __ ] are gonna always deny this and this is this is what happens jealousy is a [ __ ]

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and because you're a captain and you tell it to another cat then that captain may say that's a dumb idea but you know

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why because he didn't think of it or she didn't think mostly because that's only why they think it's mostly because

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they're incapable yeah and not not that they're true not the thing no no incompetent and

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incapable of two different things but again jealousy in the army is it if you

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were it's a big thing i was in the army during a time where i was in and i

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probably went to ait when uh with the class ahead of me was already going to their duty station by

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the time we got to fort bragg i was right there with them going oh [ __ ] i just saw you guys you know leaving for

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me and now i'm here they only got 13 weeks ahead of me in the duty station but now they're kind of like they've

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been there they feel like they've been there a little bit longer they make e3 e4 here i am making e5 and i'm doing

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[ __ ] they're like well how the [ __ ] does he get to go e5 and i'm still here so well because you're a piece of [ __ ]

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you're a [ __ ] high drag low speed [ __ ] and here i'm going but now anything i say

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they like to go behind your back and say oh [ __ ] julian doesn't know what the [ __ ] stopping so okay so

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there's there's these they're we're getting jealous but we can go down so much we agree there's institutionalization and we we we

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okay we only have a couple minutes and i say that because we don't go longer than an hour and a half right uh but we agree there's there's institutionalization i

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just want to point something out would you agree that that when they're in

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when they're in most active duty people are going to be like to private sector individuals

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whether they've whether those individuals have served or not but i'm talking about that about the private sector they would say

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to them somebody from active duty i can do what you do but you can't do what i do oh a lot of soldiers would say that

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why because they would say oh it's so different it's so different but what happens when these [ __ ] leave active duty and suddenly they create a

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linkedin profile oh i've done basically exactly what you've done and the private sector says no you have exactly exactly

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the mentality to say that to civilians i can do what you do but you can't do what i do let me tell you something right now

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that's a crack of [ __ ] because the only difference between what we did in the army what he continues to do and what

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other soldiers doing right now to what private sector people are doing is one thing and that was a choice people some

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people chose to do it some people chose to take a different path doesn't mean they can't do it and some of the physical and some of the physical

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requirements let's not let's be honest but it doesn't mean they can't do it it doesn't mean they wouldn't do it it just means that they chose a different path

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to have the mentality of you can't do what i do but i can do your job automatically if i knew you had that

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mentality i would tell you to go eat a dick [ __ ] you i'm not going to hire you because now you're going to be bad for

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teamwork and morale because you're going to think you're superior to everybody no that's a [ __ ] up way to think

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you have to always remember your job is your job you do it well because you trained you were trained to do it that

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way but so were the private sector people let's they went to school for these things

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and and on this that there's some things the military does better the private sector and there's some things that the private sector does does better uh and

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and it's i think i think reservists and guardsmen we're in a unique position where we see both and we feel the pain

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of like when we're in our full-time jobs we're like oh just yeah sometimes i'm like oh i wish this was done with the military and then when i'm when i deploy

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or i'm doing something active dude like why can't they think yeah like uh just yeah you know more uh yeah i 100 agree

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so um damn it there's no god [ __ ] i know i was

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waiting for it i'm so disappointed i i promise you next time they'll be gotcha but we talked

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about so many things of substance um uh you know so many so many things that that are um

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i don't know i don't know i don't want to say i don't want to say hard right unlike dominic's dick but like

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i don't know i tried real hard that's my gosh that's my attempted i gotcha ladies and gentlemen

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april 22nd 2022 rocky brave podcast with dominic leon and charles fuchs and we

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will see you guys next time take care