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Identity Politics and Trans Community Dynamics

April 28, 2024 Shane Ivan Nash, Blossom C. Brown
Identity Politics and Trans Community Dynamics
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Identity Politics and Trans Community Dynamics
Apr 28, 2024
Shane Ivan Nash, Blossom C. Brown

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When the voices of trans activism and conservative rhetoric clash, it's often a cacophony rather than a symphony. 

Shane Ivan Nash, and Blossom C. Brown have taken it upon ourselves to orchestrate a conversation that does more than scratch the surface. 

Our latest clip episode navigates the tumultuous waters of transgender advocacy, identity politics, and the fine line between being an ally and a sensationalist. 

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When the voices of trans activism and conservative rhetoric clash, it's often a cacophony rather than a symphony. 

Shane Ivan Nash, and Blossom C. Brown have taken it upon ourselves to orchestrate a conversation that does more than scratch the surface. 

Our latest clip episode navigates the tumultuous waters of transgender advocacy, identity politics, and the fine line between being an ally and a sensationalist. 

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Speaker 1:

It's a production, yeah, to try to create this, to assert that you know that, because it would be so sensational and Jubilee would. First of all, you should also count out the fact that you're looking at Jubilee and going, hey, they would exploit trans people so much, they would never erase that. So let's check in on that comment first, because you're definitely not showing up for an ally, for this.

Speaker 2:

What is this whole issue with trans activists that these conservatives have?

Speaker 1:

I don't really understand that. I think it's YouTubers in general, because guess what?

Speaker 2:

How many followers does he have? How many subscribers does he have? He has 41,300, something, okay. So I mean, like here's the thing. Like I read about this guy, he's a self-proclaimed LGBTQ comedian. I don't see it, but whatever. And the thing was again, I'm not faded on you calling me ugly or whatever, and you calling me ugly on the inside. You don't even know my heart, you don't even know me. You know what I mean. So your speculation is invalid, right, just like your whole ideology of what you think you understand. You just wanted to jump on a bandwagon because it was cute, which?

Speaker 1:

didn't he say he was a victim of that too by the community.

Speaker 2:

They just want to jump on the clout train or whatever like that, isn't it the?

Speaker 1:

same thing that's going on here, where they're jumping on.

Speaker 2:

But it's like but this is what they do. They only attack my looks because they can't attack my intelligence. And he's a prime example of that. Yeah, he's a prime example of not being able to come back intelligently and to debunk any of my talking points. She's the same way. In my opinion, blair White is this thing where you know this girl was sitting up there fidgeting her hair, and you know I am someone. Girl was sitting up there fidgeting her hair and you know I am someone. I don't want what blair white has done to her body on mine, and that's her personal view, that's her gender affirming, whatever, and that's fine. I have my own, she has her on and I'm not trying to be so to say, you're not a blair white type?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I don't. What does that even mean?

Speaker 2:

I don't want what she has.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't want her aesthetic, I don't want her look. I'm a goddess, a divine goddess in my own self, and y'all thinking y'all are going to attack my looks is supposed to make me like, have low self-esteem. That's crazy to me and it's just really weird. But y'all don't talk about anything else. I want to talk about my looks, but did you talk about this body, this body yada yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada yada.

Speaker 1:

Because I'm, because I'm I, I wonder why no one talks about this beautiful body of mine well, I will say there was some comments, there was, there was, there was, there was some positive comments.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sprinkled in, you know. Yeah, there was some comments of like oh I you know, shane is a very attractive.

Speaker 2:

I was like okay, there's one in there out of the thousand, but they noticed my booze was on fleek too. Uh-huh, nobody.

Speaker 1:

It's funny how none of these conservatives noticed how my booze was sitting up on fleek on that set. Honey, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah. None of them. Maybe that's why they got so angry. They got a little frustration. Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 2:

Insecure themselves or whatever, like that it comes out of weird ways, you know, and it's just like if we were to look at 21 more minutes of this video or whatever. He would not have any remote good talking points on anything that I said. And that's this weird thing where people just don't understand, like debating or whatever like that. When I sat here on this couch and I talked about her calling me ugly or whatnot, I was saying I know it was deeply rooted towards my ancestry, because, yes, she does have a racist following.

Speaker 2:

And if you don't see it, if you don't see it, if you don't see it yourself, or whatever, then maybe you need to look at yourself.

Speaker 1:

But he just affirmed it by saying oh well, she doesn't look like Blair White. Well, what does that mean? I don't want to look like her.

Speaker 2:

Gross, but what does?

Speaker 1:

that mean why? Because you don't fit into the parameters of white supremacy. Yeah, I don't want that.

Speaker 2:

Y'all can have that I never have wanted anything. I don't want to be like anybody else but Blossom. I'm so unique in that and I'm so comfortable in my look and my aesthetic. I don't care to look like somebody, like this girl right here. I don't want to get Botox. I don't want injections and lip filler or whatever like that.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't work for me, but no shade to anybody that does either, but no shade to any of the girls that love it.

Speaker 2:

I have plenty of trans sisters that it fits their gender, affirming procedures, and that's beautiful and that's fine. I don't want that, yeah, and I don't think it's fair to me. And to be fair, because I can't blame Blair for that no, or whatever like that, because you know what I'm saying. No, that's toxic masculinity, right there, and that's also.

Speaker 1:

He's a gay man, right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and he's a gay man.

Speaker 1:

So again, that goes to that conversation of gay men thrive in this space of. They hurt femininity. Yeah, they attack femininity because they've also discovered that in the world they function in. The world doesn't like women or anything feminine.

Speaker 2:

And when people look at him, and if they were to pull up old pictures of him and see, you know what I'm saying and I'm not going to even call him ugly. I don't think he's ugly. Well, some people may.

Speaker 2:

Some people may disagree with me, but the thing is it's like I don't judge people's looks, I don't care, I'm not that superficial, and when I see superficial people talking about one's looks because they cannot insult one's intelligence, it is so mind-blowing to me. But it reminds me of how powerful of a being that I am that I got you talking about me, honey, you making a video about me. How many views does this video have? I'm not sure but also this video has. What's the? Do we see it? 99,000 views, yeah, so I make enough impact for you to make a video and you get 99,000 views about talking about me.

Speaker 2:

Honey, I make an impact, I'm the subject you're talking about, yeah, so that makes me wonderfully good, and I don't. I don't. You know we wish this person good luck, good health, good healing or whatever like that. I don't have time for these low-budget, low-self-esteem people. Well, also remember the lesbian rage folks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you remember those? And she follows me? That was crazy. Her comments were I've been following Blossom for this that and was citing three years ago. I was like how do they know these niche interviews of yours? They watch me. I was like how do they know these niche interviews of you? They watch me. It sounds like a fan. Yeah, they're fans. Like, I know you personally, blossom, and the interview that she was talking about. I was like I don't remember Blossom doing that interview? Yeah, I was like how do you remember that? I thought you disliked this person. Yeah, it's weird because it's like it's real close.

Speaker 2:

But they love to listen to what people that they dislike have to say. I just don't understand why people did all of that or whatever, but it's weird. It's like I said earlier. It's like these people were expecting me to go run it in a shell somewhere and go cry in a corner or whatever like that, but then when they found out, I just don't give a fuck, I don't care what people think about me. It's like, ooh, I'm like oh well.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we're not your typical left woke folks that you know. You've placed a lot of our community in. We've even been excluded from our own community Cause, again, we don't play the perfect politics in the way that even some of our own community has filtered out really strong voices because they don't say the exact thing perfect. They don't do the exact thing perfect. But to look at this situation and not hold your own accountable and not look at Blair's actions not once I didn't see you make a single single comment other than support of Blair. You couldn't even call in your own, and that right there shows.

Speaker 2:

This video right here that's playing. I want that one because I really want to react to this one. He talked about double minority status, which I there's potential conversation there. Yeah, is that one on TikTok? Yeah, this was on TikTok, but it could be on the shorts. Okay, look at his shorts, it's got to be there.

Speaker 1:

He makes a lot of content though, so it might be a minute.

Speaker 2:

Think back to like October of last year. That would be around the time. What's the title of it? Let me see there's no title on here. Are you able to? Do you want me to send it to you? I mean, if you want to, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

Let me see. Wait, you're the only one that shows up. Should I send it to an email or something? Or do you want me to just get up and move closer? So it doesn't have a title on it at all? Not from the video. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. All right, you got it Well do we want to show it or do you want to just have the discussion on it? Because we could just talk about it, because we've already given them enough airtime. I don't want to give them too much airtime either, you know.

Speaker 2:

Is there? Wait, do not. Oh, is it? Let me see? No, that was no, it would be. Why, okay, a black trans woman? Okay, why like Blossom Getaway? Okay, yeah, that one. Why a trans activist like Blossom Getaway? Anything that I say here today is my personal opinion as a black trans woman and so nobody can police that A lot of times.

Speaker 3:

what happens with the trans activists is they surround themselves with people that are actually, so there's a point where they kind of come. Anything that I say here today is my personal opinion as a black trans woman, and so nobody can police that A lot of times what happens with the trans activists is they surround themselves with people that are actually going to bow down to them because of their double minority status.

Speaker 3:

I know the way this works because I am a double minority and every once in a while, if I get into it with an SJW type SJW is the abbreviated form for the term social justice warrior I will most definitely pull the cards gay and mexican because I know that that's their kryptonite that will stop them dead in their tracks from whatever they're saying. I will most definitely with the gay and mexican cards. I admit it.

Speaker 2:

Are you honest enough to admit it, blossom Anything that I say here, what?

Speaker 1:

Did he just say, like I can't be held accountable because I'm Latin? The first uno card. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Well, so here's the thing. I'm obviously not Latina, so whatever.

Speaker 1:

Wait, you can't come up with that.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no I hit the wrong button.

Speaker 1:

I hit the wrong button. I hit the wrong button. There's nothing wrong with being Latina, no, no.

Speaker 2:

We didn't mean it like that y'all yes, no, no no, he just accidentally pushed the wrong button.

Speaker 1:

No, no.

Speaker 2:

But you know his experience as a gay—.

Speaker 1:

At least I didn't hit the bitch button. Okay, you can hit that one me, not mess that up again. My bad, my apologies. It's all good, it's all good.

Speaker 2:

Him being a gay Mexican man, you know that's his experience and how he navigates, and so I don't have any criticism on that. For the most part Do I, would. I say I use my blackness and my transness to get my point across, or whatever. It depends on the space. Yes and no, I understand I've become the priority voice in the spaces that sometimes I have to endear and I use that. I use the fact of me being a priority voice versus a privileged voice or whatnot. And so the thing is, when you take my gender identity and my race out of it or whatever, I'm just blossom and I'm just going to say what I need to say, because I've learned to be equipped like that. I've had to learn to watch the things. I've say yes, and also understand how I say things or whatever like that. You know this whole thing around social justice warriors. I just-.

Speaker 1:

SJW yeah.

Speaker 2:

SJW or whatever like that. It's's like y'all really are jaded by trans activists. And I'm over here gagging and I love it because it's showing that we're doing the work, that we're making an impact and people and the thing is, it's like y'all I mean y'all can just stay mad about that.

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