Step back in time with Shane Ivan Nash and Blossom C. Brown as they explore the formative shows of Nickelodeon's golden era, only to uncover a more unsettling narrative that unfolds behind the glitz and glamour.
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Step back in time with Shane Ivan Nash and Blossom C. Brown as they explore the formative shows of Nickelodeon's golden era, only to uncover a more unsettling narrative that unfolds behind the glitz and glamour.
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Speaker 1:
And you remember Penelope Taunt Tate, tate. Apparently, that means something, apparently y'all.
Speaker 2:
It means the area between your anus and your… Penelope, I think, in Latin is penis, and then it was penis taint. It's Penelope Taint, that's it taint. And then on top of it they had AmandaPleasecom.
Speaker 1:
I remember.
Speaker 2:
AmandaToPleasecom. I remember AmandaToPleasecom.
Speaker 1:
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2:
AmandaToPleasecom.
Speaker 1:
That was a very popular little site though.
Speaker 2:
Did you hear about? Icarly had two contests and this is again another Dan Scheider show where they sent photos of children's feet. Like you would email a photo of your feet, draw a smiley face on your toe. Where did all those photos go?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, Again like what?
Speaker 2:
what is going on? So when Dan did that interview with the former cast member, the one that he just did, that was like the whole oh, you know, everybody was involved. Okay, then let's get everybody at the table that was involved and hold accountable. That's what I see. I agree with that. I don't know why he's trying to sit here and say like, oh well, you know, this guy wrote off on it and this guy wrote off on it, yeah, everything's good and I believe him on that.
Speaker 2:
Name the people so we can hold them accountable too.
Speaker 1:
I believe the Nickelodeon execs had a lot to do with it. That's the one one thing I may believe Dan Schneider on. I truly, truly believe that. But Melissa Joan Hart is so interesting. You know she's conservative and it's so disappointing. You know Melissa Joan Hart used to be Clarissa from Clarissa Explains it All and Sabrina from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but she was doing Meghan McCain's podcast and she talked about her experience at Nickelodeon. You know her show ended a year before all that premiered. I think it was from like 91 to 94 or 93, something like that. And you know, originally a lot of the Nickelodeon shows shot in Florida, orlando, before they moved out here to California. And you know she just kind of talked about how she believes the victims and everything. She didn't experience that because it was slightly different. She believes it was different from the orlando um actors versus like the la hollywood ones. Um, and I was just really interesting listening to her experience um, because they also the black guy from just jordan. His show was really dope.
Speaker 2:
I used to watch it all the time or whatever You're going to say. What he said on Twitter it was really dope, but you know he was just like you know, nothing happened on his show.
Speaker 1:
And back to Melissa Jones no, he said he's not getting his ass cheeks clapped. Oh yeah, that's what he said he said some wild shit. I was like we got a button net and I was just like, but you know, the same thing that him and Melissa was saying was not all shows have bad apples on there or whatnot.
Speaker 1:
But I don't think Dan Schneider produced all those shows either. No, so I don't like he didn't touch Melissa, he didn't touch Clarissa Explains at all and I don't think he was doing just Jordan. You can tell the Dan Schneider universe. They all look alike Like the iCarly and the Victorious.
Speaker 2:
Remember, hey Dude, remember that I think there was an era for Nickelodeon, when they were first coming up, that they followed the rules a little bit and I think what ended up happening? Nickelodeon became a conglomerate because of Dan yeah, Because he was the golden boy. So that's when that no accountability came in. Lots of money started Because when Nickelodeon first started like they didn't have the money that they had Nope, I mean, when hey Dude was being produced, that was look at the production and that's an original. Yeah, it's an original, but you can look at that.
Speaker 1:
They definitely saved some money on production costs Because they filmed in a ranch outside of Tucson, arizona. I was reading about this last night. It's funny that you bring up hey Dude. Yeah, because Clarissa's show, melissa Joan Hart's show, was actually one of the first original shows after hey Dude was canceled. Yeah, so you know. Like you know your girl loves Salute your Shorts and all of the shows back then or whatnot. I think it's called Alex Mack. I think it's called Alex Mack.
Speaker 2:
I think the show the Secret World of Alex Mack Guess how she Melted. I love that was my show.
Speaker 1:
Larissa Olenek is so wonderful. She's such a great actress. I love that show. That was like a revolutionary. Kim Fields' younger sister was on that show. Yeah, I loved Alex Mack. I used to. I got a book Alex Mack like from like the book fair when I was a kid and so you know, it's just really shocking. And you know Disney, you know you're next Disney Channel. Oh my God, I'm waiting on Annalisa Vanderpool and Christy Romano To confirm some of the things that Mr Orlando Brown is saying.
Speaker 2:
Oh, orlando Brown is like that man ain't lying.
Speaker 1:
He just he has a substance abuse problem. But I don't think he's lying. I don't think he's lying.
Speaker 2:
I think he also speaks in metaphors because he's afraid to say it fully. You know what I mean. Because there's a lot of power in Hollywood. I mean people can lose their livelihoods.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, they talked about that too.
Speaker 2:
You can be blacklisted. I mean, that was the whole Brian Peck situation. It was one of the leverages that they used on. Drake was like oh well, you'll never work again. And then you got a kid who is now providing for his entire family. He is the linchpin for making sure everybody eats, and you've got someone essaying him.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, you know like the advantages, especially, I mean all the way to Shirley temple, and this goes back to like what 19, 20, 30, whenever she was popped into Hollywood, there's always been this like uncomfortable exploitation. I think of children because we want to tell the stories. And children add movies and stories, cause if you think of the movie, I see dead people, whatever. That little boy that that hit that scene made that movie. You know like when you think of that, but at the same time like what is the price of these kids lives like they? It's almost like they gave up their childhood so we had one, but then now, looking back, now that I know they went through it almost destroys my childhood too.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, like I can't look at any of my favorite shows now that I know they went through. It almost destroys my childhood too. I can't look at any of my favorite shows now that I used to watch. Right, I'm like, okay, let's just move on to something else, because even if there isn't trauma on the episode, I almost feel like I can see it, like I can see this something in the episode itself, where it just it feels off, and I mean even things like Ren and Stimpy, some of the cartoons oh, that was.
Speaker 1:
That was too much. That show was one of the only shows rated tv y7. That show was too much I mean.
Speaker 2:
But I grew up on ren and stimpy too and I grew up in a generation where, like I'm, like again that elder millennial where they're not maybe not so much for you, but I was very much still kind of like a latchkey kid is what they call where, like you got a key to the house, you go up and your parents are just letting you run feral through the streets, kind of.
Speaker 2:
So much later, yeah, no I mean like street lights were on, I had to be home, kind of like. I grew up a little bit more old school, I think, than some millennials did too, because I had older folks, like older parents and older brothers and stuff, so they had that pattern, you you know, like with Nickelodeon and the whole thing with slime yeah. So TikTokers have dug into it or asking questions why is it green Boogers, if you know video production?
Speaker 1:
No video. I don't know why I said boogers for video production, a green screen.
Speaker 2:
Oh so you've got slime getting on all these children. You can easily change the color to white. Oh my god, I've done my research. Children, you can easily change the color to white. Oh my God, I've done my research, because I went through what it is. I did not know that, all the problematic things that are going on, and then the logo's a foot. The logo's a foot. What was it like 10 years?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, a foot as a logo. Yeah, the idea that somehow the folks up at Top were not involved. How do we hold those folks accountable? Because, again, they are very powerful.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I'm not even about accountability, I'm about consequence. These days, like what's the consequence for all of this and how do we protect child stars? Like a lot of the black people that were on the All that set or whatever, like black moms, black dads were complaining. All of a sudden, kids were fired, especially black moms. I even read with angelique bates or whatever her mom was sexually harassed by one of the producers and I was like that's insane, that is freaking insane. And, like you said earlier, because people are afraid of being blackballed, one number two. These were their first, their first breakout role on television. So you're going to do everything that you can to keep that, including being complicit to the abuse you've been experiencing.
Speaker 1:
And that's why I felt so sorry for all of these child stars from Nickelodeon, and it makes me wonder about people like Victoria Justice Shiloh.
Speaker 2:
LaBeouf.
Speaker 1:
And Mariah, I'm sorry Miranda Cosgrove and, you know, josh Peck, All of these people who I haven't heard too, too too much about.
Speaker 2:
Especially Victoria Justice, but again that Jeanette McCurdy book basically can you? Forget her. Allegedly those two producers pulled her in and said hey, don't talk about Nickelodeon, We'll give you 300K.
Speaker 2:
Now, I don't know if those other folks did that and I don't know if I can even really sit here and say I would judge, because I don't know the life they were living in that moment. To be honest, and if they are the breadwinners for their family, maybe there was a reason they made that decision. Because, again, we don't know what struggles that they were going through, that they had to take that money. Because we have to again be aware of this like dynamic, because even what you and I are doing, having this conversation, could possibly blackball us from people in Hollywood, because it's dangerous to even have these kind of conversations. But it's the truth and these conversations are out.
Speaker 1:
But I think Jeanette McCur but it's the truth and these conversations are out. But I think jeanette mccurdy was so brave because, you know one, her mother was abusing her, which was really horrible and I used to see like videos of them together or whatnot. And so you know, to her the best thing in her life happened when her mom passed away, and that's so unfortunate to hear. But then, on top of that, I commend jeanette because you know, she stood up to the big people and was like no, I'm not going to take this $300,000. I'm going to share my story. And she came out with a bestselling book about that.
Speaker 1:
So, you know, it just really makes me wonder about some of these other child Nickelodeon stars. You know, victoria Justice I bring her up a lot because about three years ago I was in a very depressive state and one of her songs, treat Myself, really helped save me. It was much more about treating herself much more with kindness. Because, you know, with Victoria Justice, there was this whole thing with her and Ariana Grande, the same with Jeanette McCurdy and Ariana, which was done by the producers. That's the most.
Speaker 2:
Machiavellian of it all. It's like the strings are being pulled by these girls fighting each other. They don't even know why they're fighting each other. Meanwhile, it's like we don't even know what happened to Ariana Grande. You saw that potato video.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
And like her, like with the foot thing, to the point where crazy. Listen, I know she's a little problematic with her whole relationship situation, that she's not going on, but I gave her a drop more of empathy after seeing that potato video because I don't know what that girl has been through in terms of exploitation. She's lost mac miller she's lost. Yeah, she's been through a lot, she was able to make herself a really big career because of it.
Speaker 2:
I think even what was, what was it? She was at a funeral two, three years ago and she was getting felt up by one of the pastors on stage, like she's been through a lot. So again, I know problematic with the homewrecker thing Nobody wants to, I know it's a little, but I can almost see how she arrives at those Allegedly Alleged homewrecker Allegedly, allegedly Alleged homewrecker, allegedly Allegedly. But I can see how she arrives at those paths because of what she's been through. Because, again, a lot of trauma can make you navigate the world differently.
