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Therapists Rising Podcast
Welcome to the Therapists Rising Podcast, where we share real, raw, and behind-the-scenes stories and lessons from Therapists who are thinking outside the traditional clinical box and choosing to do things differently in their careers. I’m your host, Dr. Hayley Kelly, and I myself have made the journey from a very experienced, but burnt out and unhappy, Clinical Therapist - to a successful entrepreneur who runs a business she loves, is thriving financially, and working and living life on her own terms. Join me, and be inspired, as I speak with other Therapists who too are broadening their horizons, and experiencing more abundance, joy, and fulfilment than ever before. Together we will laugh, soak up priceless wisdom and take actionable steps, to help you transition from clinical practice to non-clinical offerings, and diversify and amplify your income - all while honouring your wellbeing and having a work-life balance. If you’re ready to be inspired and take action on your dreams, then you’re in the right place, friend. This is the Therapists Rising Podcast.
Therapists Rising Podcast
The Conversation About Spirituality Therapists Are Afraid to Have (But Need To) with Tatiana Da Silva
As we head into 2025, I'm noticing something fascinating happening in our field - this quiet but powerful shift where therapists are finally starting to talk about the elephant in the room: spirituality. And honestly? It's about bloody time.
I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Tatiana da Silva, a registered psychologist in Sydney, OG member of our community, and the brilliant mind behind Integrated Wisdom. What makes this conversation so powerful is that Tatiana has done what many of us secretly wish we could - she's built a thriving practice and business around integrating spirituality and psychology in an evidence-based, ethical way.
What blows my mind about Tatiana's journey is how she transformed from hiding her spiritual interests (seriously, she couldn't even tell ME about them at first!) to becoming a leading voice helping other therapists embrace this dimension of human experience. And the research backing this up? It's absolutely compelling.
In this episode, we dive deep into:
- The surprising research showing how spirituality provides significant protection against depression, anxiety, and substance use issues (the numbers will shock you!)
- How the mental health field has artificially separated psychology from spirituality (and why this might be contributing to our clients' suffering)
- What spirituality actually IS (and why it's different from religion)
- The most common fears therapists have about incorporating spirituality (and how to ethically navigate them)
- Practical ways to start having these conversations with your clients tomorrow
- How embracing your authentic interests can become your unique niche and business differentiator
This conversation isn't just about spirituality - it's about having the courage to follow what lights you up professionally, even when it feels risky. Whether you identify as spiritual or not, Tatiana's journey offers a masterclass in turning your unique perspective into a thriving niche that attracts aligned clients and colleagues.
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- Download Tatiana's free guide: "20 Client Conversation Starters" for ethically incorporating spirituality into your practice
- Join the waitlist for "The Conscious Therapist" course opening in April here.
- Follow Tatiana on Instagram @integrated_wisdom for more insights on the science of spirituality
- Follow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes moments and insights!
Let's rise together and create the future of therapy—one bold step at a time.
