Therapists Rising Podcast
Welcome to the Therapists Rising Podcast, where we share real, raw, and behind-the-scenes stories and lessons from Therapists who are thinking outside the traditional clinical box and choosing to do things differently in their careers. I’m your host, Dr. Hayley Kelly, and I myself have made the journey from a very experienced, but burnt out and unhappy, Clinical Therapist - to a successful entrepreneur who runs a business she loves, is thriving financially, and working and living life on her own terms. Join me, and be inspired, as I speak with other Therapists who too are broadening their horizons, and experiencing more abundance, joy, and fulfilment than ever before. Together we will laugh, soak up priceless wisdom and take actionable steps, to help you transition from clinical practice to non-clinical offerings, and diversify and amplify your income - all while honouring your wellbeing and having a work-life balance. If you’re ready to be inspired and take action on your dreams, then you’re in the right place, friend. This is the Therapists Rising Podcast.
Therapists Rising Podcast
What Sobriety Taught Me About Doing Business Differently
For 12 months, I’ve been sober, and until a recent doctor’s appointment, I’d completely forgotten.
No countdown. No recovery story. No before-and-after moment. Just life, without alcohol.
When my doctor asked, “None? Not even socially?” and looked at me like I’d just confessed a crime, something clicked. His disbelief wasn’t about alcohol — it was about the quiet pressure we all feel to play along. To do the thing that makes everyone else comfortable, even when it doesn’t feel good to us.
That moment made me realise: sobriety isn’t really about alcohol. It’s about truth. It’s about self-trust. It’s about noticing all the ways we abandon ourselves - in business, relationships, and life - just to belong.
If you’ve ever found yourself saying yes when you meant no, discounting your prices to avoid seeming greedy, or over-giving because you don’t want to disappoint, this episode will hit home.
This is a conversation about emotional and professional sobriety - and what happens when you stop performing belonging and start building it from integrity instead.
Here’s what I cover:
- Why my doctor’s disbelief revealed how deeply social conditioning shapes our choices
- The invisible contracts of belonging: how family, therapy culture, and business all reward self-abandonment
- The moment I realised I was trading authenticity for acceptance — and how that changed everything
- My Uni Games story: performing belonging by being the “responsible one” in a binge-drinking culture
- Why people-pleasing isn’t kindness — it’s your nervous system trying to keep you safe
- What emotional sobriety looks like in business (through a real example from an Incubator student)
- The paradox of safety vs. control: why we keep performing even when it hurts
- How to stay with yourself when your truth disappoints others
- What sobriety has taught me about leadership, capacity, and self-trust
💡 3 Powerful Takeaways:
- Belonging that costs you your self is counterfeit.
If you have to abandon yourself to belong — in a team, relationship, or system — it’s not safety. It’s survival. - Your nervous system isn’t broken.
When you find yourself overgiving or performing, that’s not weakness. It’s your body trying to protect attachment. Healing starts with awareness, not shame. - Sobriety is self-trust.
You don’t have to quit drinking to practice sobriety. You just have to stop leaving yourself when things get uncomfortable.
💻 Resources & Links
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for insights on business, boundaries, and belonging for therapists.
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If this episode helped you see your patterns differently or reminded you that you don’t need to perform to belong, please take a moment to subscribe, rate, and review Therapists Rising.
Your words help this message reach more therapists who need to hear:
You’re not too sensitive. You’re not too much. You’re just done performing safety at the expense of yourself.
Thanks for listening — and for choosing truth over performance.
You don’t need to earn belonging. You just need to stop performing it.