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Harnessing Lunar and Planetary Energies for Growth
If you are feeling drained, off, unmotivated and just not like yourself, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! Challenging aspects to the current astrology are here to slow us down and align us with our highest expression. Marci Wiegand of Starlight Astrology walks us through how to navigate challenging times and when and how to tap into the new moon and winter solstice energy for expansion and growth.
The episode explores the transformative impact of current astrological energies, particularly the influence of recent retrogrades and their role in personal growth.
- Discussion on the significance of retrogrades and their emotional impact
- Insights into how astrology fosters self-awareness and empowerment
- Importance of setting intentions during the new moon
- Celebrating the winter solstice as a time of reflection and growth
- Encouragement to embrace feelings of confusion as part of the journey
- Predictions for future energy shifts as the planets transition into new signs
Marci provides insights on harnessing these cosmic shifts to empower manifesting intentions during the new moon and winter solstice, while also encouraging listeners to embrace feelings of uncertainty as a pathway to clarity.
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Welcome to the Manifestation Lab. This is your host, kelly Howe. From the grounded science to the mystical and unseen, we're investigating this big experiment we call life and finding what really works when it comes to manifesting a life that sets your heart and your soul on fire. Welcome to the lab. Welcome back to the Manifestation Lab, super excited to talk to my guests today. I have been planning on and intending to find an astrologer that I can trust and get to know and ask all these big questions, because I don't know if you're like me, but there's a lot of WTF energy in me right now, like what is happening, and I can tell that it's outside of me, because my normal and even off the beaten path, like healing practices and regulation practices and intention setting, just doesn't quite feel like it's landing in the same way. So welcome to the show we are talking to, marci. Is it Weigand? Am I saying that right, wygand?
Speaker 2:Wygand.
Speaker 1:Wygand Marci Wygand and she is the astrologer behind Starlight Astrology and I know, marci, like so many of us on this path of awakening and leaning into healing practices and things like astrology, that you found what you do based on a challenging time in your life. So welcome to the show. I can't wait to hear more about that and I'm just really excited to get in and ask you a million questions.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, thank you for having me Delighted to be here, absolutely.
Speaker 1:So, marci, can we just stop? Not stop, no, let's. Let's start with what is happening right now. I know we just had a huge shift and Pluto has transitioned into Aquarius and we're going to get more into that. The next time we've talked, you know, the next time we talk and get together, we've already decided we need to do more than one episode because we've got so many things to talk about. But, generally speaking, like what is going on right now, because things just don't feel settled right now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's a couple of things you know. Number one we are just coming off of a lot and one of those things is Mercury retrograde. Now I'm sure you hear and you know pop astrology and all the socials and everything you hear about Mercury retrograde. It tends to get a lot of attention and that's primarily because it's number one happens the most frequently of all the planet retrogrades. It happens about three times a year. But second, because sometimes it's a little bit more noticeable. And it's noticeable because number one, it's what we call a personal planet. So Mercury, venus and Mars, those are considered our personal planets and when those go retrograde we tend to feel those more directly within ourselves. But also we are coming off of a full moon happening in the sign of Gemini.
Speaker 2:Now, gemini is what we call the busy bee of our zodiac system. So that's the sign that loves to make connections, to communicate, to reach out to multiple people and is all about more is more instead of more is less or less is more. From a Gemini perspective, more is more. So the more touch points they have, the more ability they are to learn and to grasp and to absorb, but then also to teach and to communicate in some way, the happier they are. So what tends to happen at this time of year in general is, you know, it's Sagittarius season and then we have, which also is kind of a. It's a fiery sign. So it's it's ready for action, it really wants to go on an adventure, and then we have a Gemini full moon happening in the same at the same season.
Speaker 2:So we just came off that on Sunday. We also just had the Mercury retrograde wrap up on Sunday, so it's like this plethora of energy kind of just being thrown at us right now. Then what we also have layered on top of that is a Mars retrograde. So again, mars is a personal planet, just like Venus and Mercury is. So when Mars is also retrograde, things start to feel really wacky when we have two of our personal planets going retrograde. So you may be feeling that discontent, because that's what these retrogrades can bring up. They can bring up things from the past. They can bring up things that were previously repressed. They can have an impact on our energy levels. They can have an impact on bringing confusion to situations, confusion to our own sense of well-being. Even so, that might be a little bit of what you're seeing right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sums it up. I definitely have felt that pretty intensely and I'm a Gemini moon, and so I think that this full moon hit me harder than some of the other ones do and tend to. But can we back up a little bit and will you describe just for people, in case they're not, you know, as in tune to the, the verbiage that we're using what is a retrograde exactly and what is it about a retrograde that makes everything feel very chaotic?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, good question. So a retrograde is? It can give the connotation that things are moving backward, and that's essentially what it means it's. When it goes retrograde, things move backwards. Now, from our vantage point on Earth, if we were to look at the sky and we were to look at Mercury, we were to look at Mars, it appears that it's going backwards, that it's traveling backwards, but that's a perception. It's not actually moving backwards, it's just moving at a very, very slow pace. It's like out of its orbit. It's not moving at its. It's not out of its orbit, but it's not moving at its regular pace per se. So when the planets are kind of not at their norm, not operating at their norm, we tend to feel that yeah.
Speaker 1:What it feels like to me is that it's like an energetic churning where there's like something that pulls back on us and sifts up whatever needs to let go. That is exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Now, that being said, I think it's also important to remember that the planets are a reflection of us, or we're a reflection of the planet. So, as above, so below, so below as above, so many people can can bring the argument that we were already feeling that and the planets are reflecting that. So it's kind of like it's one in the same and ultimately, at the end of the day, it's telling us we are connected to something bigger. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, so it's bringing up, and that's exactly it. It's bringing up all this stuff and it's forcing us to also slow down and reflect and revisit and revise. You know, it's that re, it's that focus on the race. So when it's retrograde which is re it's also asking us to review, to reflect, you know, to slow ourselves down so that we're not, we don't get too caught up in what we're doing.
Speaker 1:So the forced pause caught up in what we're doing. So the forced pause, gotta love it For sure. Yeah, how can people use this churning, and just astrology in general, to step into a more empowered version of themselves?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and in fact, that's that's exactly the platform that I run when it comes to astrology. Is you know it? It can be. It is massively misunderstood in our culture, in the social medias, online, you know, whatever you may be looking at, it can be massively understood and, unfortunately, there have certainly been astrologers in the past who use it as a fear tactic, if you will. But from my studies of astrology and from my own personal experience, I feel like it's. It's such an empowering tool and it's empowering for a few reasons.
Speaker 2:Number one self-awareness. I've never found anything that brings such a big level of self-awareness like astrology can to give you more insight. This is why things are happening this way. This is how you may be approaching something. Here are some blind spots and here are some of your gifts that you maybe never heard of or never recognized or never realized. That in itself can be extremely empowering and powerful. But also having insight to what to expect for the coming three months, six months, month ahead, it can help you kind of align your mindset, your activities, how you plan things, in alignment to what to expect with the energies you're working with, to have a better outcome, to use it to your benefit, and I can give an example.
Speaker 2:I was working with a client and she was really, really upset. She had just ended a long-term relationship and, you know, just was very upset about this. And you know, I looked at her chart and I'm like you know what, but this really wasn't a year for relationship growth. This is really a year for you to concentrate on your career and to really grow your network and to really raise awareness about your own value and what you bring to the world outside of and independent of a relationship. And it was just I could see like that light bulb kind of go off. I could see that shift. It's just that having that understanding really empowered her and allowed her to let go of that relationship and to now direct her energy to her career and growing that and growing her network and, you know, kind of directing that in the in that way so that she's swimming with the current versus against the current, if that helps.
Speaker 1:Right Instead of feeling like things are wrong and like asking that question why is this happening to me? I feel like it helps us step out of that victimhood and recognize that there's just this whole bigger thing at play, that, if we can I love how you said that like fall into the stream and go with the flow instead of. I think what happens is when things don't go well especially people, when they're used to doing manifestation work and intention setting and they really start to wake up to the idea and the knowing that I am a powerful creator, like, wow, I've seen what I can do, I know what I can do. But then it's almost becomes part of our egoic manifestation where we feel like, well, I should be able to manifest everything that I want and I no longer believe that that's true. I used to believe it was true, but I'm now in this place where it's like, well, if it's aligned with your soul and what you came here to do, and I think astrology is such a cool way to align with that and to surrender to it and recognize that there is this bigger patterning at play where we're one with the universe in this.
Speaker 1:It's just a very surrendered space, I think, and I know I sent you my information for my chart because I could tell I'm like there is stuff going on and honestly I don't know what my chart looked like, but I think probably my big transition started in like 2020. And it's just been hitting me like boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like every time I start to feel grounded, it feels like something outside of me shifts and then I'm working through a whole nother layer of like breaking down ego walls and finding my grounding again and awakening to different aspects of my intuition. It just feels like lesson after lesson after lesson. So I'm totally open. If you saw anything in there that will help me make sense of that, I would love to hear about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I mean in general, kind of going back to what you said, I mean. But that's exactly it from an astrology perspective. It's living in alignment with the universe and what the universe wants for you, and the universe only wants what's best for you. So it's about taking the energy and, you know, working with you and you working with that to get you to your greater good, to lead you further along your path and your purpose, and that's different for everybody. But yeah, so, speaking to your chart specifically, I didn't go back as far as 2020, but I do know, especially, I can definitely see, you know, especially starting in 2023, when Saturn went into Pisces I'm assuming there were some big hits for you. And Saturn continues to be in Pisces and it will remain in Pisces until 2026. It is going to go out of Pisces for a little bit. It's going to dip into Aries here in the first part of 2025. But then it's going to dip back and it'll be back in.
Speaker 2:But regardless, for your chart specifically, having Saturn in Pisces is a tough one. It really is. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, but it's. It's all about kind of helping you restructure and bringing more stability, especially to how you, who you are, how you show up, how you want to express yourself. You know all of that and how you want to show up in the world essentially. So it's really kind of presenting you. You know Saturn gets a bad rap. Saturn can be known in the astrology world to being a really tough planet and people facing some tough lessons, and that's true, it is true. But Saturn is also known as delay but not deny. So it's asking you to put in the hard work now for future benefit. It's asking you to invest the time, the work, the resources for future gain to really help establish a very solid foundation for your future. That's, that's essentially the message of Saturn, which, again it's sometimes you're like no thanks, I don't need another lesson, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can relate to that. You know it's I can have a sense of humor about it, but it really has been like, oh okay, it's like I get over one hurdle and I'm like, surely that's it for now. But I think all of that completely resonates and I would say that there's so many areas where I feel like I have put in so much work and then I'm not really seeing the benefits of it right now. So this actually makes perfect sense. It gives me hope that this is marinating and will really start to pop off after this. Saturn leaves Pisces in 26. We've still got a while.
Speaker 2:I know it's tough to take that, but that's exactly it. It requires the hard work now and then you get the future payoff. So the good news is that it is going to dip out of Pisces in 25. I want to say it's end of March's timeframe, if I remember correctly, but let me see if I wrote that down. No, okay, but yeah, it'll go back into Pisces. But the good news is also, you're on the tail end of it. So there is a light at the end of that tunnel, that Saturn tunnel Awesome.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 1:Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1:Yes, I definitely will follow up with you more after this too, because I have no doubt that I just seeing that, like you said, it's sort of like it just puts on a little light bulb so you can stop feeling like, oh, I'm doing something wrong or I'm off track, and that, I think, has been something.
Speaker 1:That I'm feeling like everything feels a little harder than it did for so many years, and so then I'm questioning everything. I'm like maybe my the way I'm doing this isn't right and maybe, you know, gosh, if this isn't working for me, how is this going to continue to work for my clients? And it's, I say that, but it's like my clients are still having the results that they do, you know. But but certainly it has brought up a lot of questions. So hearing you say that already turns on some light bulbs helps me relax a little bit and it feels like always I do human design and it feels like a little permission slip, you know, like we don't really need it, but it does feel like, oh, I have permission from the universe to just kind of be in this mess and all these questions and the self-doubt right now, yeah, and I, and I wanted to mention that.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you just said that, because self-doubt is also a big Saturn theme and even Mercury retrograde, depending on where that retrograde is happening for you specifically in your chart, that can also bring up feelings of self-doubt. You know, like again, those retrogrades are meant to help us slow down and rethink and in many instances that's a very positive thing. It allows us to rework something that potentially we didn't see wasn't working, or it kind of helps us like, okay, let's take a pause before we move forward, which is great things. But the other side of that is it can also create a little bit of stress sometimes, because it's it is bringing up these feelings of self-doubt and people questioning am I on the right path? Am I doing what I need to be doing?
Speaker 2:So it's just important to sit with that for a minute and journal that, write that down, talk about it with somebody. Whatever that form of healing is for you specifically, it's important to process that and to address it, and maybe you don't necessarily take action because of it, but it's important to review that and to address it. And maybe you don't necessarily take action because of it, but it's important to review it and to see is this something I need to pay attention to, or is it? Is this just stuff being brought up because it needs to be brought up, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does feel like so many of us are so good at just kind of holding everything in and these, these layers, layer upon layer upon layer of astrology of different aspects right now that feel like it's it's just drawing it up, whether we like it or not, you know, and I know that's always the case, but it just feels like there's a lot of different pieces of it aligning right now as we move, you know, as this Pluto moved into Aquarius, and again we'll talk about that in the next episode but just so many layers of it feels like death and rebirth and uncovering and awakening and letting things go, and all of this is happening whether we like it or not. It's just happening.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah. And for you specifically, you know again, I know you do have a lot of to your point, you have a lot of layers right now, so there is a lot that's kind of unpacking and getting brought up for you. So just know that all the things that are bubbling up, it makes sense that they're being bubbled up. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Thank you, marcy, so appreciate it. So I really want to talk about we just had a full moon and I do a lot of working with the full moon because you know, the work that I do is a lot of emotional and energetic release, and so I like to use that full moon to ask people, ask myself, to really spotlight, like what is coming up from the subconscious emotionally, what can I let move through and I'm sure you can add to that. But I do want to talk about the upcoming new moon because I know that this is an important part of intention setting and manifestation. I do not take advantage of that enough, so I can't wait to hear what you have to say about how important that is and what's going on right now that we need to look at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, great question. Because we are at this time of year. We are actually at a very auspicious time when it comes to manifesting and goal setting, because not only do we have a new moon coming up on December 30. But we also have the winter solstice that's coming up on the 21st, so just this coming Saturday. But to back up to talk about the new moon, I'll talk about that first.
Speaker 2:As you mentioned, we, a lot of us, are familiar with the full moon. That is typically a time of, you know, kind of peak activity, kind of emotions, as you mentioned, the emotions coming to the surface, very common with a new moon. It can also reflect turning points or relationships, a bigger focus on relationships, or just other things coming to light that maybe were hidden prior to that point. So the opposite of a full moon is what we call a new moon, or it's also known as the dark of the moon. The new moon is, you know, a full moon is when the sun and the moon are in opposition. They're in opposite alignment. The new moon, again, is opposite of that. So the new moon is when the sun and the moon come together in direct alignment and it's called a conjunction.
Speaker 2:With a new moon. It represents a very auspicious time to plant seeds, so it represents a key time for new initiatives, fresh starts, setting intentions and wishes that you want for the coming month, or the coming three months, or the coming six months, you know, whatever you feel is appropriate at that time. And really, in fact, farmers all over the world used to plant their seeds in accordance with the spring new moon, so this is a concept that's been around for centuries, essentially. So, just like farmers who have the ability to plant literal seeds at the time of a new moon, we also have the opportunity to plant metaphorical seeds at the time of a new moon, and it's like co-creating with the universe. It's like the universe is giving us a little bit of a boost, a little sprinkling, a little bit of magic, if you will, on our own goals and our own wishes and intentions to help bring them to fruition.
Speaker 2:Now, the thing I love about new moon manifesting is number one you get to do it once a month, because new moons happen once a month. Just like a full moon happens once a month, a new moon happens once a month as well. The other thing is it's free, it's easy to do, it doesn't cost you a thing and it's like you set it and you forget it, like you can write it down and then you just move on with your life and let the universe take over from there, which I find to be such such a powerful thing. And in fact, if I could share a quick story, oh, please do. Yeah, on the new moon.
Speaker 2:So one of my clients I was working with, you know, I knew were charged and I knew you know a lot of what was going on. So she had a new moon come, or there was a new moon coming up, and it was one that I knew was going to be pretty powerful for her in particular because I knew her chart. So I texted her and I said hey, I'm not sure if you're doing your new moon manifestations, but there's a really important one coming up for you specifically. Highly recommend you take advantage of this time, write down goals, wishes and intentions that you have, et cetera. She says OK.
Speaker 1:So she does.
Speaker 2:She even sends me a picture of her and her roommates writing down her new moon intentions. Three weeks later I hear from her again and she said you know, I have to tell you I did my new moon manifestations. And a few days later and we'll back up she was looking for a new apartment in New York city. So she was looking, she was living in another part of New York city, she was looking for a new apartment in Manhattan. If you're familiar with that real estate, it's very challenging to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not an easy thing and she's doing it with roommates so they're trying to minimize their commute. You know the walk up all the things. And three days after the new moon, after she had done her new moon manifestations, she had the most perfect apartment land in her life, like she wasn't on a tour or anything. She literally just got a random email to say have you thought of this property? And she's like yes, that is it, that's where we're going to live. I mean, she could not be happier with this place. So it can get like just to show you some of the small things that can just really help bring to fruition bigger. You know some of your own manifestations and goals and wishes along the way.
Speaker 1:What is it about the new moon Can you describe like energetically? What is it that makes it such a prime time for planting seeds?
Speaker 2:Well, because when you think about, the cycles of life are connected to the cycle and the stages of the moon, if you will. But the moon is just more at a much, much more micro level. So you have a new moon that grows into a full moon. So it's like you start small, it grows into the full moon and then it wanes again back into a new moon. So it's like you start small, it grows into the full moon and then it wanes again into back into a new moon. So it kind of just represents like the darkness planting a seed and then allowing the sunlight to help it grow, similar to how you see a full moon manifest. So it's just part of that overall manifestation that allows you to kind of set your intentions at that new moon and then watch it grow over that month time period, or again, three months, six months, whatever that might be.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this might be TMI for people, at least not for the ladies, but if there's any guys listening, but I was, you know I mean listening, but I was, you know, I mean, just in the last like five or seven years, really understood, like what a lunar cycle was, you know.
Speaker 1:I just feel like for some reason that was not part of my education. But you know, we get, we get our menstrual cycle, and when we are really in tune with nature, it is intended to to flow with the lunar cycle, right, and so I'm just putting this together. I'm sure I've thought of this before, but you're talking about new moon and planting seeds, and that is literally the time when we are the most if we're aligned with the lunar cycle, which just in the last few years, like I never have been my whole life, but I am now after a lot of the healing work that I've done and literally that, you know, two weeks after a full moon is the new moon and that is when people ovulate. Yeah, that is when you're the most likely to get pregnant. I mean, you only have, like what? 48 hours or something. So I mean you're right, like this, this is nature, this is what this is. I've never quite like put that together, but my mind just had a like aha moment, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you for that. I you know it's like. It's like I had these floating concepts around and you just like locked it together for me. So good, good, good yeah.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say, just to kind of finish off on the new moon conversation. So, um, you know one of the thing, one of the like in terms of processes, and you just mentioned it the 48 hours. So, yeah, I advise my clients, you know, right after the new moon goes exact in that 48 hours afterwards is to take advantage of that time and write down your goals, wishes and intentions. And again, that can be anything, it can really be anything. But what I do also recommend is to be sure that it's written down, so not texting to yourself, not typing it in your laptop, but to physically write that down. There's just something powerful about being able to write down your goals, wishes and intentions and letting that percolate, if you will.
Speaker 2:The other thing I would mention too, along with that, is to keep it worded in the positive. So you know we can get caught up with. You know I want to. I want less of this, I want to lose this, I want to lose 15 pounds, let's say. That's something I hear often, but instead it's important to kind of turn that around, to phrase it in a positive, to say I want to be at a healthy weight, or I want to increase my gym time, or I want to have more nutritious meals. Whatever that looks for you specifically, it's about switching it to make sure that's worded in the positive so that it's not on like it doesn't bring negative results, if you will. And then I would also mention keeping it focused on you yourself.
Speaker 2:So some of my younger clients that might be on the dating scene, for example, and looking for relationships you know, sometimes I we talk about, you know their manifestations and they will say I want so and so to call me back, to text me back or, you know, to show an interest. But one of the things I try to remind them of is remember this is is about you, and trying to manifest about someone else, it's not going to work. So it's more about what do you want in a relationship? What are you looking for in a partner? That's how I would switch that around.
Speaker 2:I like that, yeah, yeah. And then the last thing I would say, too, is to make sure you're comfortable with what you write down. And it's funny because you would think why wouldn't I be comfortable when I'm writing down my own goals, wishes and intentions? But it's true, sometimes you write something down and then you feel it and you're like, oh wow, it can bring up anxiety, whatever that is, and that's your signal to say, okay, maybe that might be a goal, but maybe that's my ego goal getting in the way versus really trying to live more in alignment with what I know my purpose is. So that's something to be mindful of as you're going through it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really. I love that. It goes along with one of the things I have my clients do when they first come to me and I'm having them goals, do some goal setting. I'm asking them well, what is it that you want? And I just keep asking that question over and over again. And what, what is it that you want? And what do you get to feel? If you get that, what do you get to feel? And we keep drilling it down to kind of letting go of the micromanaging of the universe and being like what is it really that you want to feel and experience? Kind of letting go of the details and I know the details can be important, but that sounds like that's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:So is the new moon an amplifier for that energy? I just got like a vision of that when you were talking about it. So it's like, even if something isn't out of alignment, if you're feeling uncomfortable with it, it's going to kind of amplify that discomfort. I had a vision of that as you were talking about it. So it's like, maybe for another time to work through the resistance. But time, why is this? Is this an ego thing or is there some sort of fear behind this, but for the new moon, focus on, like, what feels juicy and good. Yeah, what is the energy I want to amplify right now? That's right, and how can I allow myself to step into that?
Speaker 2:Yes, 100% yes, that's it Exactly.
Speaker 1:I love that, I love that. So, Marci, let's talk about, unless you have anything else to add with the new moon, Like I said, I'm super excited to you know, I'm just really stubborn. What I've realized is it's like I have to talk to somebody, I have to have my own experience of learning about it before I will put something into practice and I just, for whatever reason it's not that I've never done new moon manifesting and intention setting, but it just hasn't been like a top priority. But I'm excited to put that into practice more and I think I think I just, for whatever reason, needed to talk to somebody about it and plant that seed in a different way. But talk to me about the solstice and the power and what's going on with the winter solstice that we're getting ready to experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So four times a year we have a solstice or we have an equinox, which represents ushering in a new energy, essentially. But you'll notice, it's also very well timed with the seasons that we recognize, so spring, summer, fall, winter, this winter solstice. So we have the winter solstice on December 21st and then we have the summer solstice. That happens, I think, it's like June 22nd, around that timeframe Now the solstices are, you know, represent the longest day of the year, which is the summer solstice, and then the winter solstice is the shortest day of the year and it's really because it's the darkness, it's the longest night of the year.
Speaker 2:Essentially, it really represents an opportunity for us to rest and reflect. Opportunity for us to rest and reflect, and it's really meant for us to look at our shadow selves. And when we say shadow selves, that doesn't necessarily mean doesn't need to be heavy or hard or looking at top emotions per se, but it's really an auspicious time to take a second to think about what am I ready to leave behind in 2024? What do I want to help grow in 2025? Because, just like we're talking about the moon and the new moon and the full moon, you can apply a similar methodology to the winter solstice, which is again kind of the dark.
Speaker 2:The darkness represents kind of like a new moon to the summer solstice, which is like a culmination point, also the brightest day of the year, which can also represent kind of similar to a full moon.
Speaker 2:So you can kind of layer in that same methodology and the winter solstice and and you know, it's been something that's been celebrated for decades, for centuries, for centuries, even where it's considered a festival, people will go out and celebrate and it's even been known to people would light a log on fire to bring lightness to the dark. And in a similar way you can do the same for yourself, like let me light up what is maybe hidden. And again, not to be gloomy and dark, but really what were some tough lessons I had this year? What were the learning points? What do I want to take into 25? And what do I really need to let go of? It is such a critical time for that, such an important time to be able to do that and this winter solstice, which again is happening on the 21st, really really positive astrology happening at the same time, which is just like a nice little boost to help you kind of reflect and take those intentions into 2025.
Speaker 1:That's exciting. What kind of? Can you tell us any details about what makes it positive astrology for this specific winter solstice?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I could get really geeky here for a second, but go for it. But yeah, some of the positive astrology is, you know, number one we're I mean, this always happens with winter solstice but it is Capricorn season. Capricorn season tends to be really good, grounded energy. You know, again, as I mentioned the very beginning of the call, we're coming out of Sagittarius season, which is like all about the adventure, like let's go, let's see what we can do, what we can explore, and we have that Gemini full moon which is the busy body of the Zodiac. And then we shifted to Capricorn season, which again it's just, it's an earth sign, it's so much more grounded and it just kind of helps us settle a little bit. Not to mention, this is the first winter solstice that we've had in 20 years where Pluto is not part of Capricorn anymore because Pluto has now moved into Aquarius. So Pluto can do a lot in terms of unearthing things and helping you transform things, and we no longer have that energy happening at the winter solstice. So it's really good from that perspective.
Speaker 2:And then, lastly, I would say too, we have a very beautiful trine happening between Venus and Jupiter. So Venus is the planet of love and beauty and relationships and sweetness and relaxation. And Jupiter is the planet of abundance and opportunity and you know, just kind of like a laissez-faire attitude toward and they're making like a trine aspect, and trine is like a harmonizing connection, it's like aspect. We're talking about connection, so it's making a very supportive, harmonizing connection between the two. So you're taking two really you know, in very basic terms, positive planets and they're in really good relation to each other, if you will, and it just kind of brings sweetness to the overall vibe.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking forward to that. That's the Saturday right. Yes, looking forward to that. That sounds lovely, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I do recommend I mean, I know a lot, you know, just from the Gregorian calendar that we typically follow uh, you know, we we save these types of like reflection points for December 31st, january 1st, whatever, but I would highly recommend aligning it with the winter solstice in that way to be able to have that point of reflection.
Speaker 1:There's something about December 31st that the more I get in tune with nature, the more I get in tune with my own personal rhythms, it just falls flat. Don't get me wrong. It's like getting a new planner always feels really good and the freshness of a new year always feels really really good. But I don't naturally feel like the move from December 31st to January 1st is an organic new beginning. And that finally started to make sense to me when I realized that in a lot of ancient cultures the new year is really in March, february or March, like it's it's later, and that to me, I think, with the beginning of spring, makes total sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and from an astrology perspective, the beginning of the astrological year is the start of Aries season, which is, you know, usually around like March 22nd timeframe. So, yeah, yeah, and it's the spring equinox, so that is the start of the astrological calendar. So it would make sense why you would feel that for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think so, and I think the Chinese new year is in February, usually like beginning of February, but it's like between February and March. I know, don't get me wrong, February is a tough month for me. I have to be like on my A game as far as self-care, because February in Missouri is tough sometimes, but, but, but it does. I do normally start getting like new ideas and it feels like fresh things start cooking more between February and March and not as much it's. It feels like I have to force it around the the actual new year that we celebrate and it doesn't feel as organic, like it's coming from within like springing forth, you know, on its own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but a lot of what you're describing also perfectly matches with your specific birth chart too, because for you specifically, are you familiar with the houses in astrology?
Speaker 1:A little bit. Yeah, I'm learning more and more about that.
Speaker 2:Okay. So in astrology you know you have your planets. The planets are in all the signs. So one of the big misconceptions is that you know most people just know their sun sign, when in fact you have all 10 planets in your birth chart and you have all 12 signs in your birth chart as well, so it's like a snapshot of the sky of the universe the minute you were born. That's essentially what your birth chart and astrological chart is.
Speaker 2:And when you mentioned this timing, I mean it's so aligned to your birth chart because that end of March especially into March, if I'm thinking this correctly that for you can be a little bit more of an emotionally heavy month every year. And when you get into like the start of what would be like Taurus season, so end of April, that might feel like okay, I'm coming out of it, like I feel fresh, I feel renewed. That's very common for your particular chart to have those feelings of just kind of the heaviness going more within. Sometimes tough emotions are coming up during that time period and then when you get to you know that late April time period, you might start to feel like you're coming out of it. You're coming out of a slump if you will.
Speaker 1:I do usually feel like that every year and I would say, you know, as an Aquarius sun, I I tend to move very heavily with the seasons. So like, when it comes time to my birthday, I am in full on winter mode, like I am in hibernation, I'm in hermit mode, like you know I I feel like I could just sleep all the time, and then when spring comes around, it's like very organically Right, and I know everybody moves with it. But I think something about being an Aquarius sun. I've always I don't know, I've just made that up maybe, but but it feels like because my birthday's in those winter months, like I experienced that winter energy so intensely, um, and it moves right along with the seasons, just right on track.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yep, it feels like spring now. Thank God, because I'm done. I'm done with hermit mode. I need to get back into action.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely Very common, Very common.
Speaker 1:Yeah, marcy, what? What was happening in your life, if you're okay talking about it, I always love hearing like origin stories, like what was life like before you found astrology and what led you on this path.
Speaker 2:Yeah, happy to talk about this. So actually I fell into astrology through a funeral, if you can believe it. Oh, wow, yeah. So I'm very lucky. I had grandparents my entire life. They were very active in my life and up until a few years ago I had them all. All four of them were living. So they all lived very long lives, which, again, very, very blessed. But a few years ago I went to my grandfather's funeral. He passed away, unfortunately, and you know, one of the best things about a funeral is it allows a lot of people to come together again, and at that funeral I had a chance to meet with and speak with my cousins. You know, cousins, that I just don't get to talk to very often. I see them maybe once a decade.
Speaker 2:And after that experience I was like wow, my cousins are doing some really incredible things and incredible things like social work, speech pathology. One of them is a will and trust lawyer, another one's a psychologist. Like to me, it was just like wow, the work you're doing is so impactful and you are helping people and at the end of the day, you're connecting with people and helping them get to a better version of themselves or helping them through a challenging time or whatever that is, and it was such an awakening for me to think about what am I doing every day and I kind of gave that a lot of thought. And no disrespect to my corporate job, but I had a corporate job and while I did enjoy it and there were definitely components of it that I really, really liked at the end of the day I'm like I feel like I'm just moving paperwork. I feel like I'm just doing contracts all day. I'm really missing that human connection. I need to do more. It was like this overwhelming, compelling feeling like I have got to connect with people in a more meaningful way. That is the only thing I can describe it as. Now.
Speaker 2:If you look at my chart at that exact time period, it makes complete sense, like what was working for me all of a sudden no longer works for me and it was pretty dramatic in that way. So I didn't know it was going to be astrology. It wasn't like I woke up and knew that this was what it was going to be, but I just knew I was not content. I knew I needed to do something different. I didn't know what that was, but it had to be different. So you know just going on with life, because when you don't know the answer, you just put one foot in front of the other and you just keep going. And you know the algorithms of Instagram, if you will.
Speaker 2:I stumbled upon a couple astrologers on Instagram and I was really drawn to their content because they weren't just putting out another horoscope, like a lot of astrologers do, but they were actually trying to do it with the intention of teaching astrology. And I didn't know a lot about my birth chart. I was able to pull it up, but I didn't really know what it all meant or how to put it together. And the one astrologer in particular she just had one little snippet about the meaning of Uranus in your birth chart and I read it and I was like, oh my gosh, this is why so many answers came to me in that moment, like this is why I am the way I am, like this, this answers so many questions and that's just one little snippet about one little planet in my entire birth chart. And then it was like a hunger I couldn't control.
Speaker 2:But I was like I need to know more, I need to know everything there is to know about this, and so one thing leads to another and I was able to enroll in a course with one of the astrologers and it just blew my mind. It was just like this is incredible. This is just incredible. The, the empowerment that you get from this, the insight, the validation, all of it was just so incredible to me. I'm like yes, this is it. So I took the course, I read a ton of books and then I'm like all right, I'm going to start meeting with clients to see how this goes. And you know that's so nerve wracking when you first start.
Speaker 1:And it really is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I did.
Speaker 2:I met with a couple of clients and I was like a whole new person after this.
Speaker 2:So I would have a session with a client and it was literally like I couldn't go to bed that night because I was so filled with energy and I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to do this. Or I had a couple of sessions where I physically was able to connect with somebody and move them like move them to tears or move them to not in a bad way, but like you can see the light bulb going off and the validation that they just got. And it was just so fulfilling to me to be able to connect with someone and interpret this language of the cosmos and to help them. And here I was doing exactly what I knew I needed to do and it was like, yes, I have to do this and again. And it was definitely a right turn off of the path I was on, but it also just came so clearly to me that I need this and this is what I need to be doing, because it was just so empowering for both of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, when you get that kind of energy hit from something, it's so clear I need to be doing more of this. Yeah, it's so, so, so clear. I love that. How long did you linger in that space of like I know I want to help people, I know what I want to connect with people. I want to have an impact in a different way, like how long did you hover in that space before the astrology sort of trickled in and and you had that awakening?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, it was probably. It was probably a couple years, quite honestly, and I would say, before the actual funeral. So the funeral was like the turning point. Before the funeral it had probably been close to about 18 months, where I was just sitting in this very uncomfortable space of something's not right, but I can't put my finger on it. What used to be okay for me is no longer okay.
Speaker 2:What I used to love about my job. I am like scraping by trying to get my job done, because I used to love this and I used to eagerly log in in the morning and get my stuff done and now it's taking me like four cups of coffee to do that. So, unfortunately, it was like an 18 month time period where I was just like something's up. I don't know what it is, I don't have the answer, um, but again, you just kind of put one foot in front of the other. But it was that funeral that was like, okay, I got a piece of information. I just know I have to do more and I have to connect with people in a more meaningful way. That's all I knew, but at least I knew that piece. And then after that, it was probably four months before I stumbled upon astrology and enrolled in the course, and then the the course itself was like three or four months, maybe four months long, um, and then you know, slowly after that, continuing to build and build and build.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so you mentioned. You mentioned the planet Uranus and I don't know a lot about Uranus. Could you talk about the aspects of that and like what kind of energy Uranus brings to who we are and what we're experiencing?
Speaker 2:Yes, so Uranus is an outer planet. It's considered an outer planet, so it's in the same category as Pluto and Neptune, those kind of outer planets, and they bring about sometimes more generational changes, more generational shifts, because they typically stay in a sign for a longer period of time. So you don't always feel the effects of these outer planets as significantly because, again, the personal planets you personally felt these outer planets. You don't necessarily feel them all the time, but Uranus in particular is a planet known for innovation, for technology, for having a bigger focus on humanity, like thinking about the collective. It's less about you and it's more about what does everyone else feel. It's also the planet known for surprises. It can also bring up chaos, unwanted chaos. It can also bring up chaos, unwanted chaos, surprising news, a surprising change of events, a left turn here, a right turn there. That's Uranus. It can be a little disruptive in that regard, but also it can really usher in welcome change.
Speaker 1:And you were. I know we were going to talk about this next time, but I feel like we're just right there. So you were in what we call a Uranus opposition when you had this, this funeral, happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then this, this 18 months, where you're like life is just something's different. I can't do life the same way. It's like I can't unsee what I've seen and now I need to. I need to shift something. So talk about that, Like what happens with that Uranus opposition. This is a new term for me. It's a new point of learning, so I'm excited to hear what you have to say about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a pivotal time. It is definitely a midlife marker, if you will. So you may also know a Uranus opposition. It's commonly heard of in pop culture as midlife crisis. Quite honestly, I don't like to use the word crisis because it just insinuates negativity and you know all the things, but that's essentially what this time period is. I like to refer to it more as a midlife awakening Because again, yeah, uranus is about surprises and left turns and right turns and but again, sometimes a little bit of chaos along with it.
Speaker 2:So your Uranus opposition. So Uranus is what? Again, it's an outer planet, so it moves much more slowly. So when it appears in your birth chart or wherever it appears in your birth chart, you tend to feel the impacts of Uranus when it reaches a couple key milestones, which is when it's at what we call the Uranus square, which is around the age of 21. And you might, if you think back at the age of 21, there may have been feelings of wanting to do something very different, a feeling of freedom. Even Uranus can also be associated with a feeling of freedom, or breaking free of what might have been restricting you, or just doing something very different, or rebellion. That's another key characteristic of Uranus. And then when Uranus meets what we call the opposition, so it's in the exact opposite spot it was when you were born, so it's like a full moon, it's like the full moon phase of Uranus. That's what we call the Uranus opposition and that can really bring about this activation of.
Speaker 2:I need to be let free, I need to shift something. What was comfortable is no longer feels comfortable. Um, sometimes this is more dramatic in in some people versus others, depending on where in your birth chart this is happening, but it it has a tendency to bring up these feelings of unrest and it's kind of the, in my opinion, it's kind of the universe's way of forcing you to check in with yourself. Are you living in alignment with your overall purpose? Are you living true to who you are? What's missing, what needs to be let go? And it's forcing you to ask these questions and to answer those questions and potentially make a shift accordingly.
Speaker 1:Would you say, just in your experience working with clients, is there a difference? Is that, is this a pretty noticeable time period for pretty much everybody? Or like, if somebody's you know quote unquote really on their path and they're really living through their astrology, are they not going to notice it? Cause I mean, I feel like for me I don't know exactly, but I I'm assuming that I'm probably in this or just coming out of it Um, but it feels like it's been pretty dramatic. You know where it's.
Speaker 1:Like you said, it's like I I can't quite put my finger on it, but something's not right, like something needs to shift. I don't know what that is yet. It's very confusing and, um, as I mentioned, it's like my normal tools, just, you know, aren't doing anything and I I have to believe it's because it's just a, an energy and a force that is outside of my control, slash part of my you know what I mean Like it is me and I am it, but it doesn't feel like I have a whole lot of control over it. I just need to let go. So, if somebody is really living in alignment, is this going to like fall under the radar or is this just pretty consistently like a moment where people were like what the hell is happening?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know that's a great question. I definitely want to do more about this because I mean when I say more, I mean more research around how this is experienced, because I know in my own personal experience this was significant. It was significant a little bit different and it can vary because of many factors. Number one where is Uranus placed in your birth chart? So when that opposition does happen, it can impact how much it's going to impact you. For example, for me, uranus is in a pretty prominent place in my birth chart. So when the opposition, when the square happened, when the opposition happened, I felt it big time. It also is impacted by the rest of the astrology that's happening at the time of your Uranus opposition. So I mentioned earlier when we were talking about your chart in particular, and we have Saturn going through Pisces and I mentioned that's like boom, boom, boom, boom. That's hitting a lot of your planets in a very tough part of your chart. So you're probably feeling the combination of both things happening. So it feels magnified for you right now because there's other things going on in your chart that's contributing to this kind of feeling of unrest.
Speaker 2:So it varies person by person, you know. I think some people do feel it pretty intensely. But also some people have a bigger awareness or some people have less of an awareness, which means they feel it but they kind of just push it to the side. You know. So they just kind of carry on and you never know. You never know they're going through a unicel position because they're not talking about it. You know so it's hard to say specifically for sure this person's not talking about it. You know so it's hard to say specifically for sure this person's going to feel it. They don't feel it. You know, because there's so many other things that play as well. Sure.
Speaker 1:That makes sense. So typically what? What is the age when somebody goes through Uranus opposition?
Speaker 2:So it's usually between the ages of 42 and 44. And the thing with Uranus is that again, it's a slow moving planet, so it takes a long time. But it also goes retrograde, just like you know, we were talking earlier about Mercury. So it will pass over your Uranus, your natal Uranus placement, and then it's going to go retrograde, so it's going to go back over and it's going to go over it again. So usually there's like three hits over a two year time period. Now again, right, exactly, I know it's that's not great news, but again it does get a little bit easier every time it goes over. And it's not an everyday thing per se, because it is an outer planet. It does get triggered by some of the slower moving planets that come along, or the new moons, or the full moons, you know whatever might be happening in that area. But yeah, it can last a while.
Speaker 1:It can.
Speaker 2:Okay so.
Speaker 1:I think we've covered some of it, but if there's anything else that comes up, definitely let me know. I am talking to a lot of women right now who are feeling everything that we're talking about apathetic, confused, feeling like they have no motivation, feeling like what am I doing? What, like, am I supposed to be changing? If I was, what would that even be? I don't want to. I've spent so much time building this thing. Why the fuck would I want to leave it behind now? You know just so many people feeling this exact thing, and so I don't know if I'm just attracting all of them. You know a lot of my clients are going through that and, like you know, they're like I don't, I don't know, I just I just don't have the energy to do the things that I normally do. I don't have, it's just not there.
Speaker 1:You know, I keep hearing that over and over again. It's just not there, and I am raising my hand a hundred percent feeling that as well. So do you have anything to add to like what's going on right now over the, I would say, over the last month or two?
Speaker 2:that has people kind of in this space where it's just like yeah, yeah, so much of what you describe is a result of this exact time period, this December month, and if I had to target it even more specifically, I would say this Mars retrograde. So the good news is we're coming off of the Mercury retrograde, the Sagittarius season, which tends just to be a little bit more static, you know, staticky and busy, if you will, but Mars going retrograde is a little bit more rare. So Mercury goes retrograde three times a year somewhat common, we hear about it a lot, etc. But Mars only goes retrograde once every two years, so it's a little bit more of a rare occurrence. And during that time period it impacts our energy.
Speaker 2:So Mars is the planet of ambition, of courage, of asserting ourselves, and when it goes retrograde, that has an impact on our energy level, on our ambitions. It causes confusion on our energy level, on our ambitions. It causes confusion, like you think. At the start, maybe a month ago, you felt very sure about where you are in this position, where you want to be very clear, and all of a sudden all this stuff is kind of getting reworked and you're feeling like I don't know anymore. This is confusing, and that's Mars retrograde. It's kind of bringing all that up Frustration. It can also lead to impulsiveness. Like you just get so frustrated, you just do whatever you need to do you know, just to end that level of confusion.
Speaker 1:There's like a desperation. I feel like almost like I have got to figure this out. Why can't I figure this out? Why can't I ship this? You know?
Speaker 2:And that is absolutely Mars retrograde at play. Now, mars retrograde tends to last longer than a Mercury retrograde. Mercury is relatively short, it's only about three weeks. Mars retrograde is close to two months in its duration, so it started at the beginning of December, december 6th to be exact, and it doesn't go, doesn't station direct until the end of February, so it's a little bit longer. I guess that's closer to three months, um, but what? But that's kind of speaking to what people are feeling right now.
Speaker 2:The best advice I can give during a Mars retrograde is to know that it's happening you're not crazy to you, you know to be feeling these but also to allow yourself to rest, because you just don't have that energy, you really don't to continue. So it's so important to allow yourself to rest to try to process these emotions. A lot of times there's gold that comes from these retrograde periods. So you have to kind of sift through all the things that are being raised to find those nuggets of gold, because it might actually set you on a completely different path that you hadn't even thought of just a month ago. And it's really important because that might be the right path. You know, like the way you never thought of now. This is actually sending you on the right path. So it's important.
Speaker 2:Now, what I will say too is especially for Virgo risings, which is that's you. You're a Virgo, right? Yeah, this is the Mars retrograde right now is really really tough because it's happening in your 12th house After January 6th and even for Virgo Risings, really after like January 8th, things are going to start to feel a tad bit easier. You're not out of the clear, not like a home run, just a little bit, I'll take it, but you may start to feel like a less heaviness.
Speaker 2:And then, unfortunately, for the Leo risings out there, they're going to start to feel a little bit more of that heaviness and the exhaustion, the uncertainty, the kind of repressed emotions coming to the surface. That's going to be when they're going to feel that and that's kind of what Mars, that can stir up all of that, especially when it's in cancer. Cancer is a very emotional sign, so it's going to stir that up. But again, for all the women you're working with, it is absolutely normal. You're in good company. This is being felt across the collective, some more impactful than others, and we'll get those answers. We will, we'll get that direction. It's just not going to be until the spring of next year.
Speaker 1:Have some, some patience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Some patience. So all of my high achievers out there, and really I mean, you know it's. It's interesting, isn't it? Because you mentioned rest being such an important part of the solstice, and, you know, pulling back and going within, and then we've got this Mars retrograde, where it's the same kind of energy, and isn't it interesting that the holidays are usually so much hustle and bustle, you know? So we have these prime times of really leaning into that rest and that you know pulling back and nourishment and hibernating, and and so I guess I just let's, let's just plant a seed that let's carve out more of that time this year. Yeah, you have permission.
Speaker 2:I'm giving everyone permission to don't. You don't have to go to all those holiday parties, you don't? You really don't. You know, whatever that is for you Like and I see that too, with some of my clients is like I should be going to this, I should be. You know, here come the shoulds. Right, I should be doing this, but I just don't feel it. But if I don't show up, and what have you? They're going to be upset. You know all the things. But I'm here to tell you we're some of us are running on fumes, you know. So we need that opportunity to recharge and it's important to take advantage of, again, this is free.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is the guilt free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this is where the empowerment comes in, like lean into this, allow yourself that opportunity to rest, to journal out, write down those tough emotions or just confusion that's coming up, and then set it free, which I know you're speaking to, you know speaking to the choir here I know that's easier said than done.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's so. It is like same. But again, we can have a sense of humor about it, right, where it's like it really is coming up for us, for where we're going, what we're doing. And I always tell everybody I'm like, and especially if you set some big intentions and you're serious about it and you're really ready to move in that direction, then that stuff has to get out of the way because you can't take it with you where you're visioning and wanting to go. So it really is all these layers of resistance and churning and all the ick that's coming up and the lack of energy's. It's for us. So I'm talking to you as much as I'm talking to myself. And so what can we expect? For? We're patient, we're resting, we're going easy on ourself, we're, you know, seeing the lessons and having gratitude for the challenges and all the things like what does March look like? You mentioned that this is a you know when the energy shifts. So what do we get to experience in March?
Speaker 2:look like you mentioned that this is when the energy shifts. So what do we get to experience in March? Yeah, so again end of February, when Mars stations direct more clarity. That's the biggest piece. We're all going to get more clarity on some of the things that have today are weighing us down, where we're getting a lot of confusion. Things are going to start clicking in March. Confusion things are going to start clicking in March. What also happens in March? We have our eclipse season. Eclipse seasons are known for kind of ushering in change, so we have that happening in March. But what's also really exciting from an astrological perspective is we have the nodes, the moon's nodes, which are the ones that dictate the eclipses are moving into new signs. So what that means and trying to again, I tend to get a little bit geeky here, so I apologize, but I'll rein you back in if you get too nerdy on me.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it, though, but what that means is that a new area of your life is going to be kind of highlighted and ripe for change. With the eclipses changing signs, with the nodes changing signs, I should say we also have some of those outer planets that I was talking about. So Uranus, neptune, pluto, saturn, even, and even Jupiter, are moving into new signs in 2025. Not all of them happening in March, but throughout that summertime period we're having some of those outer planets dip into new signs. So what does that mean? A lot of these outer planets, as I mentioned, they spend a long time in their respective signs and so they only change Like, for example, uranus is once every eight years, neptune, I believe, is once every 12 years, and then Pluto is once every 20 years. Neptune, I believe, is once every 12 years and then Pluto is once every 20 years. So when they move, it's kind of a big deal and it's a little bit more of an energy shift that's felt more at the collective level, but yet palatable. What's noticeable is when all of these bigger planets are shifting into these other signs, they're shifting into what we refer to as fire signs, air signs. So I've been talking with some of the clients like this is going to be a new era from a T-Swift perspective. So this is like the fire and air era and what that means is we might feel collectively like things are starting to happen More, a bigger emphasis on communication, connecting with others, more of a social vibe, learning information and how we're attracting information Technology will probably come to the forefront in a bigger way in 2025.
Speaker 2:To the forefront in a bigger way in 2025. Again, more initiation, more things coming where before we were in, kind of more of that earth sign, which tend to be grounded, and more about stability, and even water signs that tend to be more emotional and kind of intuitive and going within. But again we're shifting away from that and into more of this like fiery, self-starting courage, moving forward, having ambition again. So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out for the collective. But in 2025, that's when these signs start to move into these other, these planets start to move into these other signs. They're going to kind of dip back into their old signs before they come in fully in 2026. But it's like a preview of what's to come in 2025. So, from an astrology perspective, it's exciting to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Powerful, powerful. Okay, that is something to look forward to as we're being patient and doing all the things. Oh my gosh, marcy, this has been so fun and I can't wait to do round two with you, to go deeper into some of these big transits and whatever else we decide to come up with. I am really looking forward to phase two of this conversation, but for now, I'm sure there's people listening that are like, okay, I need to get my chart read, like, what's going on with me, so how can people find you?
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you for that. So best way to find me is on my socials or through my website directly, so it's starlightastrologynet N-E-T, or on Instagram, as well as TikTok, so it's starlightastrology23 for TikTok and Instagram same handle on both. So, yes, easy way to find me, and also from a new moon perspective. We were talking about the new moon. I love the new moon. I talk about it all the time on my socials when it's coming up, so you have head time or you have some, you know, headway to be sure you get your journals out and get yourself ready to think about that. So definitely a great opportunity.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I've been following along on your Instagram channel and I love your. They're like quick little tidbits, right, Like just a quick little like hey, this is what's going on, this is what you need to know, and then you're, you know you're off and back for the next tip, next time. But I like that Like just quick little nuggets of okay, this is what I need to pay attention to right now and and I love the permission slip to just be where I am and the more I track it and the more I follow it it's like, oh my gosh, of course we're all feeling this.
Speaker 1:We just haven't been taught to pay attention to it and to really lean in and trust what we're feeling in that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, completely agree, completely agree.
Speaker 1:Such a powerful conversation. Thank you so much for your wisdom. I can't wait for part two. Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me An absolute joy and we'll stay tuned for next time.
