Pastors Logjam
Two Pastors, one black and one white, discuss the intersections of faith, racial justice, racism, repentance, forgiveness, grace, and the hard work of changing hearts, minds, and systems.
Pastors Logjam
Episode 1 - The importance of trusting relationship when addressing racial justice
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Kent Claussen Gubrud
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Season 1
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Episode 1
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Episode #1 – The importance of building relationships of trust in conversations of racial disparities and justice. Two churches, Lily of the Valley, African Methodist Episcopal Church, and Christus Victor Lutheran Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; two ministers, Rev. Dr. Bill Smith, and Pastor Kent Claussen Gubrud; two different races and backgrounds; coming together to build trust, understanding, justice, love, and mercy.