Pastors Logjam
Two Pastors, one black and one white, discuss the intersections of faith, racial justice, racism, repentance, forgiveness, grace, and the hard work of changing hearts, minds, and systems.
Pastors Logjam
Episode 5 - Black History Month
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Kent Claussen Gubrud
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Rev. Bill and Pastor Kent talk about our local history, recent history, and current realities of racial injustice and racism. The different experiences of the generations and the challenges of talking about these realities in our politically divisive culture that inhibits us listening and understanding each other.