Teacherpreneurs, Raise Your Hand
Teacherpreneurs, Raise Your Hand
TRYH 175 Mastering Multiple Income Streams with Erin Waters
Unlock the secrets to generating multiple streams of income as a teacherpreneur with the phenomenal Erin Waters! Erin, a master of educational content creation, shares her journey and the various offerings she has developed, such as the Finishing Framework, Ignite, and Jumpstart. You'll gain invaluable insights into how to sustain and diversify income in the teacherpreneur space while learning to recognize the value of your own work.
Our conversation takes a heartfelt turn as Erin and I reflect on the emotional rollercoaster of transitioning from professional acquaintances to close friends. We discuss the often-overlooked challenges of mindset work within the TPT business, tackling feelings of inadequacy and self-confidence head-on. The episode emphasizes the importance of empowering women within TPT communities and creating environments where everyone can thrive despite the competitive nature of teaching.
From content creation to effective course planning, Erin and I share strategies to navigate the complexities of building a successful teacherpreneur business. Learn how to identify and address specific pain points, reverse engineer your desired outcomes, and the rejuvenation that comes from taking breaks. Plus, enjoy a light-hearted lightning round where we share personal anecdotes, adding a human touch to our insightful conversation. This is an episode you won't want to miss!
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Course Confident: A Digital Course Creation Bootcamp
Welcome to Teacherpreneurs. Raise your Hand, episode 175. I have a very special guest today. I am so excited to have the Erin Waters on the show today. I have been wanting to have Erin on for quite a while. She's been on my bucket list and so I'm excited that she's here today to talk about, kind of just a variety of like income, you know, drivers and going in a little bit of a different direction.
Speaker 1:It's funny because when I asked her to be on the podcast, I told her I wanted to talk about courses and she's like I don't really have courses, I don't really do courses. I'm like what are you talking about? You have your finishing framework, you have Ignite, you have Jumpstart and some of these things are workshops and some of these things are memberships, but I'm like they're all like a course inside of it or a workshop inside of it. So it's so relevant and I think that's funny. Sometimes we don't see the value that we have from another perspective. So I love that she's such a humble, kind, sweet. So I love that she's such a humble, kind, sweet, wonderful soul. So that's one of the things I love about her and so I'm excited to have her on today talking to all of us. All right.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Teacherpreneurs. Raise your Hand where bold teachers rise up and transform into successful teacherpreneurs who are destined for greatness. What exactly is a teacherpreneur, you might ask? Well, Webster's Dictionary defines the term as Okay, it's not yet a word in the dictionary, but hear you me, it will be one day. In a nutshell, a teacherpreneur is both a teacher and a business person, and we're here to help you be better at both. So, without further ado, from One Tired Teacher and Trina Debery Teaching and Learning, here's your host, Trina Debery.
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Speaker 1:We're going to have a small group accountability so you're guaranteed to follow through. I'm going to do that with you. I'm going to help you the whole way. There's going to be resource sharing, there's Q&As, there's a think tank style community feedback. There's also mindset trainings oh, that is unbelievable. Mindset trainings to overcome procrastination, the fear of putting your big ideas out there, and so much more. So this is Amy's promise to you Course Confident Bootcamp provides high touch, accountability and industry leading guidance to help you nail down your digital course topic, type, price and audience growth plan. In a matter of days. We're going to focus on prepping your course topic, prepping your audience with a course-focused lead magnet, prepping yourself how to show up authentically as you. You're going gonna get on the fast track through course creation and then you're gonna be set up to be the most successful students inside of Digital Course Academy. If you continue on that path and I would love to go with you on the entire journey Again, you can join me at trinadeveryteachingandlearningcom forward slash bootcamp. Hope to see you there.
Speaker 1:Let's get on with the show.
Speaker 1:So I'm so excited to have Erin Waters here today talking about, you know, multiple income sources and courses and, as I mentioned in the intro before Erin was here, that Erin was like I don't really do courses.
Speaker 1:I'm like what are you talking about? You know finishing framework, ignite, jumpstart, what do you mean? And then and I'm like I know it's a membership and I know you know one of them is like a workshop, but it's all like little courses inside. So I think that's so funny and you, and that's what I said too I said this before you were here and I'm going to let you talk in a second, because now I'm nervous, so I'm like talking a lot, but the first thing that the thing, one of the things that has always stood out about you to me is your humility and your heart and your kindness, and I'm like and it makes me feel emotional and I'm like you don't even see how like much of an impact that you have on people and that you're like I don't do that. I'm like what does she mean? She doesn't do that.
Speaker 1:So, welcome Erin.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, trina, you always know how to make me smile right off the bat, so thank you first of all, for having me on the show. I know we've talked on the podcast Airwaves before but, as we were saying before we started recording, I think this is our first time sitting down since we've like gotten to know each other and have like a personal friendship now, as opposed to just being, you know, two ships passing in the face, yeah, yeah. So, um, thank you. This is amazing and I'm so excited to talk with you and I think, yeah, I, I, I have so much mindset work to do.
Speaker 3:But, honestly, when I reflect on everything, I think, just getting started in this space, I had already been exposed to and jaded by so many types of personalities that you know, you see, something you're like, oh my gosh, I hope I never come off as that. So I probably overcompensate a little bit. I could stand to be a little bit more confident, but no, I mean I have just. I have gone through all the ups and downs in my TPT business, my seller facing business, and it is hard to like own what you're doing sometimes, because some days you feel on top of the world and other days you're like who am I to?
Speaker 3:think I can do this yeah.
Speaker 1:Because because I feel like we exist in in an atmosphere where we do sometimes question ourselves, because other people question our you know intentions or you know they are like who are you to do that? Or what are you doing? Why are you talking about that? And sometimes I think I feel like it's. I feel like it all comes down to the fact that we I don't want to say grew up, but almost grew up, as teachers in like a scarcity type of atmosphere where there was never enough resources and what you were doing was never good enough and it was always not enough, not enough all the time.
Speaker 1:And and then like was kind of competitive. So you know, they put us in these competitive situations and test you know, test scores, and what is you're doing and what are you doing. And then they said everything must be standardized and everyone must do the same thing. And then it was like, wait a minute, where did like our personalities, our strengths are, the beautiful parts of us were like pushed down, and so I feel like we carry that along with us into business, sometimes not intentionally, but it comes out that way.
Speaker 1:Even even just recently, I heard someone say that they didn't like when, um, when people sell at, like, the TPT conference. And I'm like, would, if you're there and you're giving all this great information and you have something on the other side of that, what's wrong with that? That's like Charmin saying I'm going to give you all this information about soft quilting and comfort and I'm going to teach you how to properly take care of yourself, and then on the other end of it, I have some toilet paper for you to buy if you want it. I would be like, yes, thank you, that's great. So even that is like, oh, we, just it's like. I would be like, yes, thank you, that's great. So even that is like, oh, we, just it's like a jab, it's like a constant jab. So I think that's probably where some of that comes from, don't you feel?
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think a lot of the issues we run into with our mindsets are definitely tied to things that are ingrained with us. Even just growing up a female, I mean, I didn't really ever feel like the supportive female community until I was an adult. You know, my whole upbringing was, you know, like girls are competing against each other and there's all this judging and just you know, and just not the healthiest mindset. So I think when you're in a field that is predominantly female too, it just like layers on all of those things. So it's like TPT is just unpacking one thing after another and then reminding yourself like it's just never ending.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's like having a little bit of PTSD when it comes to some of the situations and I feel like we it's that's the thing, the beautiful thing about your space, and like school sellers and even Ignite, is that I feel like you have attracted this like these women, and you're empowering them, like you're giving them gifts constantly just by being you, even if you're not showing a quick tip or whatever, like just you showing up at all is a gift, and so I think those are the kinds of spaces that I want to be involved with, because it's uplifting, it feels good, it feels I don't know. Anyway, so I could gush about you forever and ever. So I just think it's important that we, that we tell each other like how valued we are and how much we matter, because we all do. Every single person in the community matters and has a value.
Speaker 3:I totally agree. We need to start doing like a community hot seat, where, instead of a hot seat, you're just like telling that person all the good things about them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They don't have a choice, they're not allowed to sign up.
Speaker 3:We're just choosing you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, randomly, you're going to be chosen randomly. You know I used to do that in school where you would have kids write all the really cool nice things about the person and then you circle it around and then they would have this document of all the great things about them. I think what a wonderful boost. This isn't even the topic of the podcast but this is. So this kind of stuff is so important to me, because I I feel like you know, everybody needs a boost every now and then.
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, especially yeah, today more than ever. I totally agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay. So I know that people know who you are, but if you want, if you want to give a little bit about just kind of your background and then maybe even when you started deciding that I have a focus on TPT, I'm selling on TPT, but I need to do something else too. I want to add another layer to that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I began teaching in oh my gosh 2009. And I taught first grade. That's the only grade I ever taught, until I was pregnant with my second child in 2017. And I taught that whole entire year pregnant. She was born in June. So literally that whole year was me pregnant and me just. I already knew what my next step was going to be. I had wanted to try the full-time TBT thing and it just made perfect sense to do it at a time that was already a natural transition. So now I've been out of the classroom for seven years, which is both a blessing and a curse, and I let's see. So that was 2017.
Speaker 3:And then I would say all of 2019, I was all in on the idea of something else. I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted it to be, but I was very much entrenched in, like the Amy Porterfield world. That year. That's when I just the business bug really bit me hard. So I knew I wanted something else and it wasn't. This is I mean, I'm privileged to be able to say this. It wasn't out of necessity. I was doing fine business-wise with TPT, but I just loved it so much that I was like I want to do something else. So I at the end of 2019, finally was like you know what? You already are a seller. This is the natural transition. You love everything about being a TBT seller, so you should start something where you're working with the seller community.
Speaker 3:And then our podcast launched in. I want to say either I think it was December 19, but January 2020 was like the first official episode and then fast forward a few months and then it was the pandemic and I was like what a year to start a business. But I think that was actually what was meant to happen, because so much of our activity early on in School of Sellers was just talking to each other. We would just meet on Zoom calls and be like what the heck's happening? Like none of us really knew, and we kind of just formed this community.
Speaker 3:And then I created my first course, which was the Finishing Framework, which focuses on mega batching as much as you possibly can in your business, specifically your content, with a focus on like repurposing all of it, working smarter and not harder. And then, over the course of time, I had a couple little courses here and there, but now I have the finishing framework. We have our yearly planning workshop, which is jumpstart every December 1st we do business planning for the following year. That is my personal favorite. And then um as, trina, you've already kind of mentioned is our um ignite membership, which we lovingly call it a work club for TPT sellers, and every month we have a different challenge, a different topic, different trainings, and, yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a lot of really cool stuff. I mean there's, you have taught me and probably so many people listening so many valuable tools and I mean I'm always like well, erin says, erin says this.
Speaker 1:Erin says that like I need to do this. Aaron said, yeah, it's like constantly, but it's been such good, helpful, helpful tips, and, like I am always, I love when you like lay out your brain for us. It's like I'm ready to just soak it up. It's, it's, it's really incredible. It's like such an incredible thought process and sometimes I'm like, wait a minute, does that work for my ADD brain? I'm like I don't know, and you know, but that's okay because it doesn't have to be exactly the same, but it's just the framework that you give is so helpful and I absolutely love Jumpstart. So I think that I think it's funny that when I first asked you and you were like, well, because, do you, because those are that you just mentioned a course like finishing framework is a course and it's a very like, it's a high level, like extremely you know act full of information and teaching. So I think it's funny to think, well, I don't really have courses, I don't really do courses, think, well, I don't really have courses, I don't really do courses.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, it's funny because it's like when you put it all on paper it's like, wow, you do a lot. Like you have a TPT business, you have this seller business and the truth is, like all of my seller tools and courses and everything happened because of my brain and it's because my brain is naturally not an organized place to be it is very chaotic up there.
Speaker 1:That is insane. That blows me away Every time you say that, is that possible Because you give such great organization and such good systems. That doesn't even make sense to me. That you're like well, this is because my brain is like that. That's funny.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, just because I do lean on so many things like that, because they don't come naturally to me. So, when you know, when you asked me to come on and talk about my course, it's like you know, here I am. You know, I took almost a year off my podcast. I'm feeling a little like you know, haven't been like on top of like the seller game recently. You know I feel like I'm like coming back from a burnout in the seller world. So that's where I'm like, yeah, you know I did make that course and I do know what I'm talking about. But you know how sometimes you just get in these head spaces where you're just like OK, I know what I should be doing, but I'm not sure I can get myself to a point of doing all of the things.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I can get myself to a point of doing all of the things and I think sometimes you forget the things you did because you seem to me like a person who's very like multifaceted, where you get interested in something else and it's like, oh, I'm excited about this, let me try this, and which is definitely I can definitely relate to, and I'm like and so then you forget like, oh, I did do this and this is really good, because you have already moved on to the next thing for yourself.
Speaker 1:So because like your course is like I go back to it. So you, you know you probably don't think of it like that. You create it, you make it, you do updates, you talk about it, but then it's kind of in the back space of your brain. But, like other people, it's like, oh, it's not in the back space of my brain, like I go back to it and periodically and learn some more. So, yeah, I think sometimes it's just remembering the things that we did.
Speaker 3:That is true, though, and I think you hit on like a cornerstone ADHD component is like liking the novelty of something when it's like fresh and exciting to you, and, yeah, for me, sometimes I'm like well, the you know, the batching of the content is so ingrained on the work that I do in my business that sometimes I forget that there are people discovering the course for the first time or discovering that framework for the first time, and that, to me, is really exciting. So that's just another nod to the mindset work I need to do for myself, so it's kind of fun to talk about it.
Speaker 3:We all need to do yeah it is Okay.
Speaker 1:So when you think of that, like you took an area that you perceive as an area you need to work on and you created a course based on that, I think that's so interesting because a lot of times, even like Amy Porterfield, she'll say take something that you, that you're like an expert in, or something that you're really good at, and you, you but you.
Speaker 1:But I never thought of it like that because that was what I felt like was my strength as a reading teacher, because I have dyslexia. I struggled to learn to read. I did learn to read, um, but it took extra help and extra people and extra time and all the rest of it. But then I felt I was really good at helping kids because it was my perceived weakness that I was able to recognize in children and help them. So in this case it feels like a similar I mean, it's not the same thing, but a similar like I'm going to take the thing that I need the most work and I'm going to, I'm going to do these things, and then I'm going to share them with other people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's kind of like doing a little case study with yourself and then sharing the successful parts. And yeah, I mean, when you put it like that, it really is. I mean the content creation piece for me just simply was not happening. The blog posts would happen very sporadically. Emails I was lucky if I sent one out every single month and I finally got sick of myself and was like, okay, what can you do? Just figure this out.
Speaker 3:And so I'm the kind of person I like to check everything off in a big way. I would much rather have a week of hard work and then be able to say this this is done, this is done, this is done. So for me, it was the difference between this getting done and this not getting done. And once I realized that I could build a system and follow a system if I could follow it, anyone can follow it, and you know so it was kind of like, yeah, in a way handing over like a survival kit to other sellers who were struggling with the same thing. So I think it's it's cool to find something that other people are like oh, I also hate doing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you also are very familiar with the pain point, which I think is a really huge key to having a successful course, which I have made the mistake over and over again. I am like I'm excited about this topic, I'm passionate about this topic. I can't wait to share it with the world. I think it's so important. And people are like I don't really care about makerspace and I'm like how did I go wrong? But the thing is, is that when you focus on what is the pain point, how can I go wrong? But the thing is, is that when you focus on what is the pain point, how can I solve it? That then you're giving them what they need. You're not like convincing them of what you think that they need, and I think that is the difference between success and people that go on to struggle, as myself. So, um, so I think that really is key. You are like you have it, you're, you're so in touch with it because you have felt it yourself.
Speaker 3:You know what, though I can speak to my flops. I had two courses that I thought were going to be amazing and they were a complete waste of my time, and that was a and I shouldn't say that. I mean I had other. So let me back up. I had a course for beginner TPT sellers. I thought you know what this seems like.
Speaker 3:A lot of other people in the TPT space are doing this. I should probably do this too, since we already have an established business. So we did that. And then we also did an email course and I'm not even that strong in my email game, but it was. It was a need that I perceived in the TPT community, but I had no business really offering a course, and the content in both were fine, but it wasn't something that, like you said, was specific to one pain point. It was a little too broad and a little too just not who I was as a seller, and we we discontinued both of those courses. I met some amazing people through some of the courses, but they just weren't good, and I think that's really important to talk about too is just because you have an idea doesn't mean you know making a course is hard, so make sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you're right, it takes a lot of dedication and you and sometimes it is it is a flop. And sometimes you have to like, start all over. Sometimes you have to make tweaks. It really just depends on the course. And sometimes I think, when we make something where we're like, I think that people you know, every other people have done this. I need to do it as well. We're not like and you may.
Speaker 1:I don't know if this is true, but I know for me, like I'm like. I don't know if I feel passionate about brand new sellers. It's not that I don't care about them, but I'm like. It's so hard for me to even go back that far in my brain that I'm like I don't even know what I would tell them sometimes. So when you don't feel like it doesn't light you up on the inside, it's hard to deliver information for people. When it's kind of like you know what. I'm not in that stage right now. That would be like me talking to new, brand new parents. Like I'm like. Well, I do remember what it feels like, but I'm like, would I? I'm not there anymore, so it would be a weird thing for me to talk about.
Speaker 3:I totally agree, and that was a big part of the new seller. One was we just, you know we were spreading ourselves too thin. It was two completely different audiences that we were serving at that point and we were one audience and we totally were not the other audience. So at the end of the day. Yeah, I would just say work out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's interesting, okay, so I think that's really helpful. I think that's a good place to start when you're thinking about, like, what do I want to do for a course and what do you see? What do you see in the future for yourself, do you? Would you continue? Would you ever do a different course? Would you ever think of something else?
Speaker 3:or yeah, I would, I would. I am open to a new course.
Speaker 3:I'm still just kind of you know how, like when you have all of the ideas swirling around and and you know that you're going to get to that point where you're like, oh, this is the next thing. Yeah, I'm at that point. I couldn't even tell you what the like topic might even be, but I'm I am mentally at a point where I am like kind of that getting that itch to do a course and kind of I don't know. I think taking a year break from a lot of business operations was exactly what I needed to kind of feel reinvigorated.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think that when you open yourself up to like letting yourself even imagine what could be in the future, or like what's possible, that's when things start to come to you. You know, sometimes there's times in my business where I feel really closed off and I'm like I just want to put my head under the covers. And then there's other times where I'm like I don't know yet, but I can feel something is coming, so and I that feeling has been happening for a while, but I tend to get scared and I'm like, oh no, I'm not going to investigate that, like I'm just going to push that away and and that and and. Then I get frustrated. So it's that's not healthy for me to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think too, like with the courses especially, I think we're all kind of probably similar in the sense that we're obviously all very creative people and, um, my problem is not lack of ideas, it's trying to decipher, like, which idea is the right idea. So one of my biggest tips would be, if you do have ideas for a course, um, to definitely sit with all of the ideas for a while. I don't think any courses should be made spontaneously. Those usually aren't the ones that are going to succeed, so I like to wait until the idea pops up a couple of times for me to be like okay, maybe that's one.
Speaker 1:And how do you even narrow down? Because I know this is a problem for some people too they can't narrow.
Speaker 1:They think of an idea that they want to share, but then they're like but I got to do this and this and this and this part, and this part and this part, and it's like so much stuff and you know, like, when you look at like the success of a course, or how you know how much a person goes through the course, like are they, did they make it a hundred percent through the course, which they often don't? So it's like, what do I? I don't want to overwhelm people, so how, how do you think you even like decide what am I going to include, what am I not going to include?
Speaker 3:That's a really good question and I think one of the trickiest parts, um, when you're thinking about the course design, I am very much, um, like I need outlines, so like I need to see exactly what it's going to be from start to finish before I jump into it, or at least like 90% of the way there, um. So something that helps for me is to think kind of like reverse engineer your planning process. So what results like like what is the big result you want people to have when they're finished with this course?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So for me, in the finishing framework, I want my students to have all of their content batched for weeks, maybe even months at a time, and then kind of back up from there and think, what do I need to do to help them get there? And then you kind of lay out the steps that your students will take through the course and then you back up even a little further and you start thinking about what kinds of information or background knowledge will they need in order to even go through that process. So kind of like you just kind of like backing up a little bit each way and finally that helps the full picture. But when I'm planning a course, honestly I'm so in love with tools like ClickUp, but when it comes to planning a course, I think the best way to do it is paper and pencil. I like using sticky notes.
Speaker 3:I will often have sticky notes going on my desk, I'll often have a notebook open and then I might have a screen open. I've been using Canva whiteboards a lot more when it comes to like the brainstorming process because it mimics that style. So if I am feeling digital that day, but I think it's important to really give yourself like the flexibility to move all of those pieces around, because it's going to take a while to get the big picture in the places that you want it to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it helps to have like that physical. I always resist that. I know Amy Porterfield teaches that strategy and I don't know why I resist it. Because I don't like my handwriting. I hate writing Like I like to type but I don't, but then I can't like physically move things around, so that is like a limitation. So I do think that that is a really helpful. I don't know why I resist it. It's just the it's the handwriting thing.
Speaker 3:No, I think you're right on that. Like I think they've made everything so aesthetically pleasing when they show that type, that way of working that it's like my mine is not pretty.
Speaker 3:I will take a picture next time I do my process and you'll be like oh okay, it's fine to do it that way, cause I you just yeah, I mean, for me it's just something about the mind to hand connection and I can think and scribble faster than I can like I don't know and see, I'm the opposite way though, like for me the moment I learned how to type, which makes me sound so old.
Speaker 1:But in high school I was like my brain has just unlocked, like I can go so fast that I can actually, but with writing my hands, like I can't like I can't write as fast, or then if I write it, I can't even read it I can.
Speaker 1:I'm like what did I say here? I have no idea. So anytime I have to do like, like, pretend like I'm a child and, do you know, like for a photo shoot, I'm like they're totally going to believe that a seven-year-old wrote this, because that's what my handwriting looks like. So, yeah, it's bad, it's really bad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think if it was like, if I was like writing a book, I'd have to type, but if it's just like the pieces and like writing like this, I don't know no-transcript I'm.
Speaker 1:They kept trying to convince me that I had to try it that way. Obviously I'm not. I can't type with my left hand, so I'm, I mean I can, I mean I am typing with my left hand, but you know what I mean? Yeah, and it, but it was really eyeopening. So I think there is something to like the hand to to writing, a mind to writing thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, I could talk to you forever, about, about about business about courses, about anything, yeah, so I appreciate your time. I do want to do a little um, a quick little lightning round with you, if you, yay, okay.
Speaker 3:I guess, of course.
Speaker 1:All right, this is the easiest one. I don't know why my camera keeps doing that. It keeps like I don't, I don't know if I'm hitting something, and look at that. That is strange. Yeah, it's weird. I don't know what's going on. I'm going to unplug that. I don't know what's going on. I'm going to unplug that. Yeah, that's bad, all right. Well, I'm not going to worry about it right now. I'll fix it in a second. So, on a scale of one, to 10,.
Speaker 3:How good of a driver are you? I'm going to go with like a six and a half.
Speaker 1:I'm a good driver.
Speaker 3:I just I don't know, I'm not the best driver.
Speaker 1:That is so funny. I think it's so interesting when people say that where they're like I'm not that great of a driver, I don't know. I think that's funny Okay. I'm definitely the one that'll be in the left lane, without realizing that I should probably get over little annoying things like that without realizing that I should probably get over you know like little annoying things like that. So people are like writing their lights at you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, texting or talking.
Speaker 1:Ooh, if I Ooh, texting, texting, texting, yeah, yeah, I feel like, um, I feel like that's a generational thing, like I mean, like I'm older than you are, so I remember having like long cords of the phone, like walking around the house with this super long cord.
Speaker 3:And yeah so if I could multitask, I would talk on the phone Like if I have like a cleaning job or something to do around my house. I phone all day, but usually texting With AirPods.
Speaker 1:I have to have AirPods because I'm not going to get a crick in my neck, so all right, your favorite day of the week.
Speaker 3:I'm going to. I really like Mondays, Yep.
Speaker 1:I do too. I feel like I didn't say I wouldn't say that in my class, like when I was teaching, right, I definitely wouldn't pick Monday when I was teaching, which I feel like people say Mondays, like teacherpreneurs say Mondays more than I bet they would have said Mondays in the past.
Speaker 3:I 100% agree with that.
Speaker 1:All right, your first celebrity crush.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, first celebrity crush, let's see how far back I can go. I would say LL Cool J was probably my first official celebrity crush, or Brian Austin Green or Jonathan Taylor Thomas Gosh now I'm like going way back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know, you know. It's funny, though. My kids just asked me yesterday who my celebrity crush was, and I don't have one, really as a grownup. You don't, as a girl, you know what so many people say that I'm like my brain and think of one, but I don't have like a objectively yeah, that one comes out, just up yeah.
Speaker 1:And I totally do Hugh Jackman all the way? I think I knew that about you yeah. And all of his like Wolverine Deadpool videos with Ryan Reynolds. I'm like I love these. Keep them coming, so I love that. Oh, and then the last one knowing what you know now, what would you tell your 18 year old self?
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, um, that's a tricky one. Okay, wait, I have to get my phone, cause I want to read a quote that I found, cause I feel like this would be a good one. I found this on the plane on the way back from the TPT conference and I was like, oh, that's so good, give me a second All right, I will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely would tell myself to get out of my own way, like I. I feel like that would have been some good advice to my younger self to get out of my own way, to believe in myself, to, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is it, and I'll have to give the source later, cause I just took a picture. It's like a little poem. It says be yourself, so the people looking for you can find you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3:I thought that was really good Because I feel like at that age you know 18, gosh. That's when you're doing everything you can just to fit in and you don't really realize that those are all the things you probably should not be doing.
Speaker 1:So yeah, no, that's good, I like that. Thank you, Erin. Thank you for coming, thank you for chatting, thank you for just being who you are.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. We'll have to do this again soon, Trina. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:And thank you for sticking around, and if you want to join me in Amy's Course Confident Boot Camp, I would love to walk you through. I'd love to support you and help you. And there goes my alarm, so you can find that information at Trinaadeveryteachingandlearningcom. Forward slash boot camp and remember.
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