Teacherpreneurs, Raise Your Hand
Teacherpreneurs, Raise Your Hand
TRYH 176: Harnessing Community for Course Success with Angie Kratzer
Unlock the secrets of digital course creation with our returning guest, Angie Kratzer, as she shares invaluable strategies for teacherpreneurs looking to expand their income streams. Discover practical tips from her latest compilation on Teachers Pay Teachers (TPT) and understand the crucial role of community engagement and accountability partners in achieving success. We'll also take a fun trip down memory lane, reminiscing and the camaraderie that fuels our creative spirits.
Reflecting on my September 2020 launch of the Digital Course Academy (DCA), we navigate through the challenges and unexpected benefits of joining the program during the pandemic. Learn how weekly meetings with a small support group became a lifeline and provided the inspiration needed to complete and launch courses amidst global uncertainty. These connections have transcended the program, offering ongoing support and highlighting the indispensable value of community and mentorship in reaching your business aspirations.
Angie and I dive into validating course ideas before creation, a game-changing approach championed by Amy Porterfield from DCA. Transitioning from spontaneous course creation to a strategy-driven method ensures we meet existing demands rather than trying to generate them. We'll share our experiences, discuss the importance of understanding your audience's needs, and reveal the power of strategic email marketing. Plus, enjoy our personal anecdotes about travel dreams, childhood TV shows, and the deep emotional impact of having a supportive community around you. Join us for a rich blend of practical advice and heartwarming reflections designed to inspire and guide your course creation journey.
Links Mentioned in the Show:
Course Confident: A Digital Course Creation Bootcamp
Angie’s 201 Ways to Grow Your TPT Business Ebook - TPT Seller Course - TPT Seller Tips
Welcome to Teacherpreneurs. Raise your Hand, episode 176. I'm so excited to have a friend of the show who's been on the show several times, my dear friend Angie Kratzer, who is back to talk about all things digital courses, all things, extra income streams, so all the things. I'm excited. I love to have Angie. She's so full of so many great tips and ideas. In fact, she just came out with something a couple of months ago all about her tips and she had a course 101 Ideas or something like that for teacherpreneurs. And now she's put everything together all of her great tips that she gives on her email list and all of her course stuff all together and that is available on TPT. I'll drop a link in the show notes. You're going to want to check it out because she is amazing. Hope you stick around.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Teacherpreneurs. Raise your Hand where bold teachers rise up and transform into successful teacherpreneurs who are destined for greatness. What exactly is a teacherpreneur, you might ask? Well, webster's Dictionary defines the term as um. Okay, it's not yet a word in the dictionary, but hear you me, it will be one day. In a nutshell, a teacherpreneur is both a teacher and a business person, and we're here to help you be better at both. So, without further ado, from One Tired Teacher and Trina Debery Teaching and Learning, here's your host, trina Debery today's episode is being brought to you by Amy Porterfield's Course Confident Boot Camp.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited about it. So this is a two week virtual boot camp. It's the next step for anyone who wants to learn the foundations of creating a digital course. So it is. The bootcamp is famous for its high community engagement and high touch support. This is such a great way to get your feet wet, to just have a low, a low ticket intro to Amy's world, and it is so worth it, my friend, and the good news is that I will be joining you. I will be coming to the bootcamp with you. I will even create a separate little group, so we'll be accountability partners, you and any other teachers and teacherpreneurs who are interested in creating a course. It'll be so fun. We'll do it together. I will support you the entire way through. I will help you know. Is this the right course for me? All right, the price of the admission is $47 and you will get so much out of that. It will be so unbelievably worth it that you won't even believe it. And you can join through my special link, and that is Trina Debery, teachingandlearningcom. Forward slash bootcamp. Trina Debery, teachingandlearningcom. Forward slash bootcamp. So you are going to want to make sure that you join with me so that we can go through this together and I can cheer you on and support you and hold your hand and get you to the finish line.
Speaker 1:It's called Course Confident, a digital course creation bootcamp. It's for anyone who is interested in building and launching a digital course. So if that's, you come join me. It's a private, low cost, low ticket offer at $47, only $47. And it's a boot camper. You get tons of community so you can take action. There are five live trainings and there are also a replay. So don't worry if you can't make it. We're going to have a small group accountability so you're guaranteed to follow through. I'm going to do that with you. I'm going to help you the whole way. There's going to be resource sharing, there's Q&As, there's a think tank style community feedback. There's also mindset trainings oh, that is unbelievable. Mindset trainings to overcome procrastination, the fear of putting your big ideas out there, and so much more. So this is Amy's promise to you Course Confident Bootcamp provides high touch accountability and industry leading guidance to help you nail down your digital course topic, type, price and audience growth plan in a matter of days. You're going to we're going to focus on prepping your course topic, prepping your audience with a course focus lead magnet, prepping yourself how to show up authentically as you. You're going to get on the fast track through course creation and then you're going to be set up to be the most successful students inside of Digital Course Academy if you continue on that path and I would love to go with you on the entire journey. So I hope that you'll join Trina Devery teachingandlearningcom.
Speaker 1:Forward slash bootcamp All right, let's get on with the show. Forward slash bootcamp All right, let's get on with the show. Welcome back, angie. Hey girl, it's so good to be here and I'm so glad to have you. I don't know how many times it's been. It's been several Four.
Speaker 3:I think this is number four. I know, I think.
Speaker 1:I think you might be right and I think that's the. You're the reigning returner.
Speaker 3:Am I the winner? Yeah, like do I get the I've hosted SNL five times jacket. Like you get one of those. You can send me a t-shirt when I hit five.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's a great idea. I love that. I forgot about that. I haven't watched that in so long.
Speaker 3:Who's up that late?
Speaker 1:right, I was just going to say I can't stay up that late. I know I just came back from Jacksonville Well, the time this comes out will have been months ago. But and I went to see a friend and we could like. The first night I went to bed at like 830. We were watching a movie and I was so tired, I'm like I got to go to bed.
Speaker 3:And the next night we made it to 1030 and we felt like, yes, like you're in middle school and you stayed up longer than your parents, so do you feel that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm like what is wrong with me, anyway, okay, so we're talking about courses, we're talking about you's. Let's talk a little bit about when. Like when did you decide that I need TPT? I need more, more. I don't want to just put all my eggs in the TPT basket, like I need something else. And did you decide that I have two questions in one, which you know? If I was being observed by an administrator, they would mark me down. So, um, it was central questions, yes, multiple essential questions. And then did you decide because you needed, you were like I need to additional income. Or did you decide this because you're like multifaceted and you can't help yourself? You got to jump onto something else too. Those are me, me and me. So I just wanted to find out.
Speaker 3:So it was 2020 and we had gone, let's see. So Digital Course Academy opened up in September of 2020, right? So we had decided that we were going to possibly homeschool by that time, and I knew that we would all be in jail if I was the one who had to homeschool. So my retired elementary school husband he was like, okay, I'll do it. So while he was homeschooling, I had to run our brick and mortar business while I was running my TPT business, and so I was sitting in an office all day long by myself and I was like what am I going to do with my time? I cannot sit here all day long and write resources and you know that kind of stuff. So I had heard from you Did you have your podcast at that time? You have your podcast in 2020, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yes, yes. Um, I did because I had my podcasting course, which is the thing that you yeah, you wrote on the comments. You're like what I get the podcasting course too and um, you're like you just got me off the fence and I was like really, it's a nice little little plug.
Speaker 3:So I was listening to two podcasts and both of you two seller podcasts, and both of you were plugging DCA and I knew you better than I knew her and I knew that I would probably get more support from you.
Speaker 1:Plus, I wanted to give you the business, and so I was like I remember when you said that and I was like, no, she's going to go with the other person because the other person is bigger and known more. But I did, I was so that was so sweet.
Speaker 3:There's a better, there's a better personality. Click with us. Anyway, you're like my, you're like my sister. So I was like that was so sweet. There's a better, there's a better personality. Click with us. Anyway, you're like my, you're like my sister. So I was like, okay, so I'm gonna go with Trina. And I didn't know, I didn't even know what that meant. Like I did not know that you had a small group of people who were going through DCA together and we would meet once a week. Like I did not connect that that was going to happen. I thought, oh, I'm going to throw Trina a little bit of business and I'll just go along my merry way and do the do the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I don't think I did a good enough job at that time explaining that I was going to where I was going to show up every week and I was going to help support you through through DCA. Like I don't think I told I don't, I don't think I like focused on that. What I focused on really was and you get a course for free, another course for free podcasting Academy for teacherpreneurs and I don't think I did a good enough job explaining, like, what that meant and how much work that that ended up being.
Speaker 3:That little group is the reason I finished my course and that little group became, by my, my pandemic life buoy that's the right word like I looked so forward to meeting with you guys every week and to being in the Facebook group together and we were all watching the course at the same time.
Speaker 3:We just sort of agreed we were going to watch and then discuss and we had we had little tasks we were going to complete and we could bounce stuff off of each other and I mean that was like a fellowship thing for me as much as it was a business thing for me. It's just a way to connect with other sellers when things were so weird and so lonely and we didn't know what was going to happen to our businesses and everybody's like half the people are stuck at home, and so we had one of those strange businesses that was allowed to stay open because we sell buildings to hospitals, and so we, we, we were, you know, we were open, and so I was like okay, I'm just here mostly by myself, because hospital administrators weren't just like beating down our door.
Speaker 3:So you know, I just had, I had the time and it was a, it was a lifesaver for me and I a friend of mine went through DCA after I went through and that's when, um, uh, amy did it without affiliates and so she did it alone and she didn't finish her course and I I think it was because she didn't have what we had, she didn't have that little support system.
Speaker 1:I think I mean it went. I mean I had a really hard time letting go of that group, so with you guys, so that that continued on for for a while and um, in fact, like that I followed one of our, one of our people when she started her like started a mastermindmind. I'm like I'm going with you and yeah, so with Christy, and so it's it's like that. But then, like doing it after that it was never like that group, but it has still always been like a special experience. And this this last year that I that I went through I went through with a larger group and I was so like I was.
Speaker 1:I always get so invested in other people's courses and and like getting excited about what they're putting on into the world, so that part is just fun for me. Like I really just enjoy that part so much Like it's it's like such a good part of the year because I feel you know, you kind of sometimes feel like you're you don't see what you're doing, like you don't see it as clearly unless people leave nice feedback, which is wonderful and I love that. But when you are like hands-on doing something, you know what I mean like you feel that feels good, and I want people to finish because they invested a decent amount of money. So it's like let's at least, you know, get, let's at least launch it, you know, once, so we don't feel like we wasted all this time and that was part of the reason we were trying to stay together.
Speaker 3:We wanted to stay together until everybody had launched or till everybody had decided that they were going to go a different direction, like maybe they were going to try a membership or they were going to wait until their list got bigger, their email list got bigger or something. I just felt like we didn't let go until everybody had sort of done the thing that they wanted to do. And one of the best things about the group was how much we challenged each other financially, like you know, because we tend to we're teachers we tend to undervalue ourselves, and just I just remember us all pushing each other when we were trying to decide how much we were going to charge for our courses, and I really needed that.
Speaker 1:I really needed somebody to say I think that's worth more than your plan to ask and yeah, yeah, no, I thought that was helpful and you know, what we didn't have in that time period that Amy has added is a boot camp Like now she does a boot camp where there's three or four trainings inside of the boot camp and you're kind of working through the beginnings of module one. So you're really like diving in there and it is like a hands-on experience. But something new that I've done in the last actually, that I did last year really was I jumped in the bootcamp and I, um, we started a group and we and I just showed up and supported them like crazy, and then they we ended up carrying it on to DCA and that was also fun as well. But I think that would have been so great for that initial group because it was so much of those beginning decisions and that's where I went wrong. It was in the beginning.
Speaker 1:Like I went wrong in my course journey in the beginning and so, like having that group, it's just like a hour play. I don't even know how to describe it. I think it's so helpful.
Speaker 3:I've done the bootcamp, like after DCA. I've done it twice and I think I just love Amy so much. I just want to keep being in meetings with her live. I just keep doing the things that she's doing. But because I was thinking about another course and I was like, okay, so what were the fundamentals? I want to refresh you know. Yeah, and one of the things that she encourages that is so hard for my personality because I'm a jump in person is that you have to vet your idea whole hog and create a five module.
Speaker 3:You know, 20 hour course. You have to make sure that that's what people actually want, because you don't. You don't create demand, you go where demand already is right to make something. And I that was a brain shift and so when I was thinking about my next course I was like, let me go in and see what, just remind myself of what she says but yeah, no, it's so helpful. I love them still have um still have the videos from dca me too, and she's, and they're updating.
Speaker 1:She's updating this year, yeah, and you get it. And she's doing two different tracks, which I think is really interesting. When this comes out, people won't I don't know if they'll know some of that yet but um, but there are going to be two different tracks this year and one of them is like if you are a brand new to course creation or and you don't really have an email list and all that stuff. And then the other one is and I think that is so great because so many people are they start and they're like they don't, yeah, and then they are. They are so like I don't know what to do first, like I, I don't know what to do, and so I think that is, I think that's so smart that they're doing that and we get that. Not that we need start from the beginning, but um, but I just think it'll be.
Speaker 1:I think there's going to be other things that cause she always, she always adds more value. I feel like it would every single year and I'm like this is um, yeah, and I've had it since when she started, 2000, I think 18. Yeah, so it's been okay. So you did say something, but I do want to mention that I mentioned at the big, like I mentioned at the intro, when you, I wasn't with you, and that is um, because you said something that just made me think of a tip that you just put out. So, angie, um, and we'll come back to courses in a second. But Angie, angie, if you're on Angie's email list, it's like gold Number one. Um, every week she sends out these tips and the funny thing is it's like did you ever watch Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce? Probably not, because you aren't divorced.
Speaker 3:No, but I've read Girlfriend's Guide to. She had. There's one in the series, girlfriend's Guide to Planning a Cheap Wedding, or something.
Speaker 1:I think, okay, so this was Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce and I watched it when I was getting divorced so it was very helpful and but they always had these, you know, episode 72. And then the next week's like episode 250. Like it was never in sequence and my sequence brain is like that's what you do with your tips. You're like tip number and I'm like did I miss tip the one before that and and so? But I'm like is she just randomly throwing out numbers because I get?
Speaker 3:so my brain cannot handle it however, the no in the in the weekly, in the weekly ones, they're in order.
Speaker 1:You're just missing some emails, girl, but they're in order, okay, so really, yeah, I feel so dumb right now because they're not.
Speaker 3:so I've got know, I've got the course the 101 ways to grow your TPT business.
Speaker 3:Okay, those are numbered 101. And then the tips in the TPT tip of the week. I started at one and those are numbered so that the numbers don't line up. But in the book the numbers line up. Yeah, 201 ways to grow your tpt business. All numbers are just we're starting over because when I combined so I combined all the tpt tips of the week and I combined the script from the course and I put them together and I consolidated and purged and massaged and edited and paid somebody to edit and then edited I I came out with 201 updated current tips.
Speaker 1:So forget numbers. Yeah, okay, good, so there's no numbers in the book.
Speaker 3:They're there, they're just not there, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, the reason I brought that up was because you gave a really good tip and by the time this comes out this is coming out in September, because we're currently in July this will be a tip. That was months ago, but the tip was about meeting demand. Or if you're going to create demand, then you're running a hard race, you're running an uphill race, so you're going to have to generate the traffic, you're going to have to do all the educating, all that stuff in advance. If you are meeting demand where they already need something, and you're like hello here, I am with the answer. So I loved that explanation and I think that is so relevant to course creation, because I've done this twice now. I mean, I have two different courses and I I like I wasn't meeting an already existing demand. I was like you need this. This is so wonderful, right.
Speaker 3:If you have to convince me that I need it, your sales are not going to be great.
Speaker 1:They're not going to already know that I need it.
Speaker 3:Here you go. So mine was kind of a combo with that. So the course I created was a course for high school English teachers as a writing course, and it was about how to help kids write better analysis, and every English teacher struggles with this and I knew they struggled with it and so but I wasn't sure exactly how they felt the need and so I did interviews. Amy encouraged us to do interviews and have a little script, and you know I met with four AP English teachers and asked them questions and what their struggles were were not what I thought they were, and so that was a. That was. That was a little aha moment for me, Like I was about to just dive into this course and make no money, because I wasn't. I was making what I thought they needed, not what they actually needed. So when teachers know what they want, and you know what they want and you provide it, you're going to make money and that's what course creation can do. You got to find out really what they need first.
Speaker 1:Then yeah, what course creation can do. You got to find out really what they need first. Then, yeah, you have to really listen to those interviews, because I I listened, but I feel like I still was like, oh no, I still know, and like I just ignored them and it was just like, no, this is what you really need. And that was a big mistake. And I and I think I think you make mistakes I think that I think that's okay, though I think that's part of like your, you know your journey of learning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So you made a course, so and it was you felt like because you had a lot of time to do that. And then I mean, did you also think I need to?
Speaker 3:there is a need I have to, like I'm trying to also increase my income there is a need I have to, like I'm trying to also increase my income, yeah, so, because my husband and I are both self-employed, there has to be money coming in our, our, our, our. My brain's not working, our busy seasons mesh well so, but they're both of us slump in June, so there has to be something. There has to be something trickling in all the time or being launched all the time. So I've launched, I think, six or seven times.
Speaker 3:I'm live launching again next week, which will be the last week of July. Yay, Yay. But my, my second primary goal for the year was to figure out how to put it on evergreen, and that's one of the things that Amy teaches is how to get your course. You don't have to live on. You will make more, more money live launching, but it doesn't have to work that way, and so that's that's next for me. But one of the things that the bootcamp gave me was just this perspective that what I create doesn't have to be some megalithic, monolithic, massive signature course, that we can make money from small things that teachers know that they need, and so that's kind of given me this constant churning of wait a minute, I can make some smaller courses. I don't have to do this whole big shebang like I just did. I can make some smaller courses and have that on Evergreen constantly streaming.
Speaker 3:I have a friend here in town. She is not in education, she's a small business owner and she does a skin. She does skincare for black women and she has 30 courses on skincare for black women and she is making so much money. I don't remember what, what platform she's on, but yeah you, it doesn't have to be some big, huge thing. So the the bootcamp just kind of reminds me every time I do it. It just reminds me that you don't have to go whole hog. You can do small things and still increase your income.
Speaker 1:I actually think that's a smarter thing to do, I think, especially when you're first starting to create a risk right yes, yes, and she and Amy talks about like low hanging fruit and whatever, and again I ignored that.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, it's going to be a big whatever. And I don't. I think that's if it doesn't work right away. It feels so defeating. So I think that's why a smaller like let me start with something small. Also, it teaches you how to do that, because I have another friend who's currently working through a course. She's creating a course and she's like wants to throw the whole everything in the kitchen sink in the course. And I'm like let me tell you what is the percentage of people that make it all the way through a course? They're not going to get all that.
Speaker 1:You're going to lose them because they're going to going to get overwhelmed yeah, it's too much and I think I think that is such a big thing, especially for for teachers. When teachers are doing because we there's so much we want to teach them, we have so much to say, but that doesn't mean that the ending has to learn. I mean their learning has to end at at the that course. That can lead to another course possibly. But I think when you try to make it this giant thing, I don't know. I just think that that is overwhelming, and also teachers like the time that it takes to go through courses, like they don't have ample time.
Speaker 3:It takes about if teachers do the homework. In my course it takes a maximum of 10 hours to go through my course and I don't often tell teachers that because it sounds like, oh, I'm asking a lot of money for 10 hours. But I think it gives them wins, quick wins, and I think teachers would rather have quick wins than volume and we forget that. And that's one of the things that bootcamp always teaches me is that you don't you don't have to do it massive, you know it's okay, it's okay to give them small quick wins, and teachers, teachers will will pay for things that save them time.
Speaker 3:And if my course saves them time cause they don't have to grade the way they've been grading, then yeah, it's going to be worth it for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too. Anything else that you have to offer, like when it comes to tips, for course, creating courses.
Speaker 3:Any other? Any other tips from me? Yeah, I know that I asked that so backwards. I would say. I would say If you do end up working with Amy, take advantage of the live help that she offers. Absolutely go through it with somebody. I think people should absolutely go through it with you. So I send people to you all the time. Even though they threw it with me cannot serve them the way you serve them, so I'd rather that's how I feel about YDP with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm like you, I just can't, yeah, I can't offer them what they, what they can get through you. So it just feels I'm like, yeah, I feel better, saying, just go to Angie, it's a good trade.
Speaker 3:And don't you like, I don't know. For me it feels like there's a little bit of peace, having something, having the knowledge that we have about course, creation. There's a piece that comes from like as of today. So this is the end of near the end of July, as of today, my July is way down last July and I'm like, okay, well, it's time to live launch. Yeah, and there just was. So it's not easy, live launching isn't easy, but it was just relatively easy to go. Okay, I need to make up for this many amounts, this much money. I'm going to live launch because I typically make five to $6,000 every time I launch. So, and I need to make $5,000 in the next 10 days, I'm going to go launch, my course, it just, it gives, just give me, it gives me a way to pivot.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, yeah, I think that's great, I, and I don't think you, I think you can always try different things.
Speaker 1:I tried a bootcamp, um not that long ago myself. Cause I'm like, let me see, you know, I've been in Amy's camp for several years, let me try it out. Um, I made some things, I made some mistakes. Like I think I gave too much information, um, in the bootcamp. And so I'm like, all right, I'm going to back off of that the next time I do it. But it just gives you these opportunities and, like, I've decided this summer that I don't have the emotional energy to to do a live launch. So I'm like I'm going to do it through email and if you know it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but I'm going to try so. So I don't think that's the way to go, but I know that for me that I was just there's just been too many like personal things that it was, I couldn't give it what I needed to get, but I think that's really helpful. I think it's helpful to know that there's other options.
Speaker 3:Options, right. So last summer too much going on, you know busy kids at home and I was like, well, I'm going to have to launch with email. I just I couldn't. I just didn't have the time to live launch the way I wanted to. So I waited too late. I waited way into August before I tried to do all this and but. But it was a little mini pivot. I made a thousand dollars with a few emails. I was like, okay, that's a thousand dollars. I didn't have time for a live launch, but I knew how to write the emails because Amy had taught us how to write the emails. And I still I still have these big purple binders and I flip every time I live launch. I flip through and look at the, look at the templates that she gives us. I'm like, ok, I got to say it like that, not like that. And you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, now she has a workbook Like now. Now she gets this beautiful workbook. Yeah, it's only for I think it's for people that join, like.
Speaker 3:Yes it's an incentive thing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's an incentive, but it is beautiful, it's. I have like such workbook envy. When I see it I'm like I'm just going to buy that. I'm like, look at that.
Speaker 3:And it seems like last year you couldn't buy it. Yeah, I think you yeah, only it was only a little, a little incentive to go ahead and get off the fence. That's so smart, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too. She's such a genius.
Speaker 2:Anyway.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I know you've been on several times and so I, so I. So I know we've asked some lightning round questions, but I'm going to give you some new lightning round.
Speaker 3:All right, I'm ready.
Speaker 1:But before we do that, like I want people to know where they can find you and if they want to join your list or they want to check out this, this resource that's come out, you know, or they want to join YDP3U, how can they find you? Okay?
Speaker 3:So you can go to AngieKratzercom A-N-G-i-e-k-r-a-t-z-e-r. Crazy german spelling, angie kratzercom and just put sellers in the search bar. It'll take you to a landing page where it explains everything that I offer sellers books and courses and workshops and um email lists and I make, make templates for, like previews for bundles, which are always so hard to make, and same way you can get links to all that stuff in there.
Speaker 1:Just search for sellers on angieprottercom All right, yay, all right, okay, so do you snore?
Speaker 3:I do, and I wear a CPAP and CPAP falls off my face. My husband will smack me in the head and he'll be like honey, your CPAP fell off. Yes, I'm a big, big, big like loud. Shake the headboard. Yeah, it's not pretty.
Speaker 1:That's not good. Okay, so never rooming with you. Yeah Place is the most, or the place you most want to travel Italy.
Speaker 3:We are saving up for a 25th anniversary trip to Italy and trying to decide if we're going to take the teenager with us on the trip to Italy. We'll see, but yeah, we're. That's our, that's our goal, that's my, that's my big thing. I want to spend like a month going all the way up and down the boot. I know exactly what four cities I want to go to. We're going to go to Pompeii and tour all the archeological sites and yeah, I'm going to do it all. That's my big safety. I vote that the teenager does not come.
Speaker 1:That's my vote. He's really excited about the trip. I vote that the teenager does not come. That's my vote.
Speaker 3:He's really excited about the trip. I wish I had never told him, but I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's an avert. I think it's important for kids to know that your parents can take a trip by themselves, because they love each other and they want to spend time with just the two of them. I think kids should know that, because I also think that's very comforting to kids, even if it makes them mad initially, I think, in the back of their mind they're like my parents love each other.
Speaker 3:So yeah, we do. We do date night on Fridays and he stays with my mom and sometimes my husband and I just eat popcorn and watch a movie in the in the house. But but he knows that that's date night. I've heard him tell his friends oh, I can't do it tonight. Mom and dad have date night. And it's just, it's sweet we went to St Croix for our 20th anniversary and didn't take him, and it was just. It was just a nice, lovely break, but I missed him, you know. So we'll see.
Speaker 1:You'll decide.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean, you can go you can go with us on our trip to Italy and bring and Emily and Jackson. That would be great. All right, your favorite childhood TV show? Oh, my goodness, probably electric company, do you remember?
Speaker 1:I do, I do, was that? Do you remember?
Speaker 3:Morgan Freeman. This was Morgan Freeman's first show he was ever on, so those of you who are not 80,000 years old like I am so in the early seventies there was a show where you would realize Morgan Freeman was he was like when you do, when they do the little side face and one of the faces says and the other person says chicken or Iken, and then they make the word chicken together.
Speaker 3:He was always one of the faces says and the other person says chicken or Iken, and then they make the word chicken together. He was always one of those two faces. So now when I hear his voice I think phonics sound combination. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, when you first said that, that is not what I was thinking of electro woman and dino girl Do you remember that? Oh my gosh, yes.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know what else I was thinking. I wasn't thinking electric company I loved ISIS and Shazam and wonder woman and oh yeah, I loved one. Oh, all those, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:Shazam, that's so funny.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Your, yeah, your last Halloween costume.
Speaker 3:I was a black eyed pea, so not as in a band member. I was, I was, I wore, I wore brown clothes and I put black makeup around my eye and a pea on my shirt and made everybody guess what I was.
Speaker 1:That's so funny Like I'd pee. All right, two more your favorite ice cream flavor Coffee.
Speaker 3:Oh, no question. Mint chocolate tips of course close second, but coffee is number one, for sure.
Speaker 1:Coffee Interesting, and what does a person need to be happy?
Speaker 3:Wow Gosh, these are. This is not a lightning round question. This is like deep philosophical. A person needs to. I think a person needs to have people around her or him who are 100% for them. Who are 100% for them, they cheer them, they accept them as they are, they accept who they've become and how they grew up and what they believe. And doesn't mean you're not challenged by people, but, yeah, I've got to have people around me who take me as I am and love me there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I love that that makes me emotional yeah that was a good one.
Speaker 3:Angie, thank you. Thank you, friend, I appreciate you.
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