Step into the mind of Meli a designer, architect and the creative force behind the brand Measure Life. Not just your average architect who designs buildings, Meli uses his expertise to structure a life filled with purpose and intention, and he'shere to share the blueprint with you. Join our enlightening conversation as Meli reveals the layers of Measure Life, a brand that encourages each individual to live with a sense of purpose and intention. We discuss Virgil Abloh, NYC fashion, listening to God plus much more.
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Step into the mind of Meli a designer, architect and the creative force behind the brand Measure Life. Not just your average architect who designs buildings, Meli uses his expertise to structure a life filled with purpose and intention, and he'shere to share the blueprint with you. Join our enlightening conversation as Meli reveals the layers of Measure Life, a brand that encourages each individual to live with a sense of purpose and intention. We discuss Virgil Abloh, NYC fashion, listening to God plus much more.
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And I went on a self-enlightening journey I guess you could call it I don't really know what to call it but I pretty much isolated myself for about the whole year. Of course I spoke to people, but as far as going out, going on dates or even entertaining anyone, I didn't do any of that. No sex, no party, none of that. And I devoted a lot of time to God and I don't know that was the most powerful and most righteous I ever felt in my life. Mind over matter is magic. I do magic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, welcome.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the podcast. Welcome to Mind Over Matter. Thank you for joining me. Episode 67. Big 67, big 67. I said 66 early, but I messed up with 67. Like I got it right here. I got it in my notes. That's how true it is.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course, of course. So welcome to the episode. If it's your first time joining me, thank you. If it's a not, I appreciate you and kick back, relax and enjoy this episode. I have a lovely guest with me today. Go ahead and let the people know. Connect with you a little.
Speaker 1:My name is Melly. I am the brand owner of Measure Life. I'm also an associate architect, born and raised in Brooklyn and Queens, New York. Don't ask me how both but Brooklyn and Queens.
Speaker 3:Brooklyn or Queens.
Speaker 1:You have to choose. All right, he's valid, he's valid, I just live in Queens, but Brooklyn is where the heart is at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, period.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's me, I'm Melly. Follow my Instagram at MellyFet. Follow my Instagram at MellyFet and the brand at Measure Life.
Speaker 3:Exactly, you see this quality, quality quality products. You get me See. Your hat don't fit like this. Hat don't fit like this.
Speaker 1:Wait till they feel it too. Yes, it's really like textures.
Speaker 3:It's really details, and if you really look at it like patch, go crazy too at the side.
Speaker 1:Don't stay, melly.
Speaker 3:At the side. Yeah, but on today's episode we're going to be talking about just design and how to bring intention into your design. Mindfulness, because this is a mindfulness podcast, so that's really what I want to get into today. Also want to talk about just your inspirations, your upbringing, why you even started your clothing brand. What does Measure Life mean to you? And yeah, so just tell people how did you even start it and what does Measure Life really mean to you.
Speaker 1:OK, if you don't mind, I want to ask. I know it's your podcast, but I want to ask you what you think.
Speaker 3:Of course this is a conversation, I know, but you know some people are here.
Speaker 1:I got to set the stage, though Usually I like to ask people what they think Measure Life means Like when I introduce them to the brand.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like that.
Speaker 1:What does Measure Life mean to you? So when you hear the name Measure Life, what do you think?
Speaker 3:So I'm deep All right. As soon as I hear Measure Life, I think of longevity, because when you think of measuring something, either it's going to be short or long, so it's different mindsets we have. So when you measure life, like Nipsey Hussle said, life is a marathon. So I think of like long term mindset, because that's where my mind is. So when you say Measure Life, I'm thinking long term longevity and to really look at life as a marathon and not just to live for the next day from paycheck to paycheck, that's where I like that answer.
Speaker 1:That's probably one of the best answers I've ever gotten to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll be thinking.
Speaker 1:But what I usually tell people is pardon.
Speaker 3:Measure.
Speaker 1:Life. It just means to live life with purpose. So everything that you do every morning, that you wake up, go out and live with intention. So don't just do things because it's what's deemed to be popular on social media or anything like that, but do what you love and go hard with it, and then along with that, I try to push my faith in God as well.
Speaker 1:Once you have faith in God, I feel like everything just gets a little easier, because that's a weight off your chest that he's taking control of. But yeah, that's Measure Life. Live life with purpose, every room that you enter, lead with love, lead with love.
Speaker 3:And I think that's why I even connected with your brand, because it aligns with my brand. And it's like yo, we're born on July 28th too. That's OD. I just figured that out. That's crazy. Shout out to my Leos Exactly the gang shit, Gang shit. You see, it See it.
Speaker 3:But that's really crazy because I feel like that's what Mind Over Matter is it's really looking at life with a conscious outlook, To really take the time and do the work to understand yourself and to really put life into your perspective, not what outside factors are telling you your life should look like.
Speaker 1:And that's really big because we was just talking about it earlier. But with social media nowadays, everything is pretty much scripted. So I feel like whoever's behind those social media world, they're scripting a narrative for all of us and people. Nowadays they don't really have an identity. We're just following what's on social media. So, because everyone's just following what's on social media, I decided to just use the brand as a way to show people something positive, something that's not to the contrary to everything that's going on in the world. That's what Measure Life is. I'm trying to be positive and along with that, I figured that while I'm spreading this positive message to my brand, I want to do it in a fly way. So I was trying to figure out ways to make my brand fly while being positive. A lot of brands nowadays they're just promoting sex, money and drugs, and I don't feel like you have to do that to look good. You can look good with love on your shirt and something positive.
Speaker 3:And even back to a lot of I feel like especially social media isn't all bad. A lot of people were able to launch their businesses from social media and really get the engagement they needed that they couldn't get without social media. But I feel like there is some aspects that concern me that do feed into that short term mindset where it's like, OK, I'm going to post this, I'm going to spam my feed with my content, and then I better get here if I do that.
Speaker 3:And that's not the case. You could spam your social media and keep posting and not get any likes, and it's OK because you still created something and it's still valuable, and that's really the mindset I wish more people understood.
Speaker 1:Just put it out, because you created it. Exactly Rather than for a reaction. Exactly Makes sense. Yeah, but I feel like we got to work to that because social media started off with oh cool. I mean. Actually, I think social media kind of started off the way that we wanted to be. Yeah, people were posting just to post because it's something new.
Speaker 1:But after a while it just grew into a popularity contest. But I feel like at some point that's just known to be human nature, like everyone wants to be the most popular. Everyone wants to be cool or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think it is also back to agenda setting too. It didn't start off like that because it was wholesome and it was genuine. And then, when agendas came in, that's when people learned you can manipulate the masses again with this new media, because media has always been known to manipulate the masses into thinking a certain way. But social media is just this new form of it, and if you don't really know yourself, you can really lose yourself in it. It's a whole, yeah. It's a bar, quote me, don't quote me, but quote me.
Speaker 1:Get me.
Speaker 3:Know yourself, you can really lose yourself. Yeah. So who inspires you? Why did you even like you still didn't really, you just like reverse card me? You didn't even answer the question for real.
Speaker 1:So what was the question? Who?
Speaker 3:inspired you Like, why did you start I?
Speaker 1:think I answered that.
Speaker 3:You did.
Speaker 1:Oh no, all right, I really started the brand. It's been a thought since middle school I want to start a brand. I've always been into clothes, but I don't come from a rich family, so I couldn't get everything I wanted.
Speaker 1:I couldn't get the religion, the BB hat and all of that back in middle school and stuff. So I'm like, when the time comes, I'm going to start my own brand. And the thought really started to get going in college because I started making my own money. But I was struggling to figure out a name. I think at first the name was going to be like G2G or something like that. Because, I spoke about it with my parents and they're like yo make sure you include God in your brand.
Speaker 1:So I was going to do Glory to God G2G.
Speaker 1:And I'm like that's cool but it's kind of corny. But then after a while I was just writing stuff down and Measure Life came to mind. I'm like I went to school for architecture and I value my life a lot, so I guess that's where Measure Life came from. I still don't really know exactly how that thought came up, but Measure Life and even that I didn't really like the name at first. I'm like you know what? I'm going to push this as much as I can and let's see how it goes. But yeah, I pretty much just started it to have a way to express myself and a way to make stuff that I couldn't afford back in the day. But do a positive outlook.
Speaker 3:I like back to your architecture background. I want to tap into that real quick Because If you don't know now, you know I had an architecture background. I studied it for like four years in high school. I really wanted to be an architect but like, when I actually went out in the field it wasn't for me Like too many hours like behind the computer for like things. That doesn't really fulfill me. You know what I mean. But what I did take away from architecture is that using like these complicated computer programs helped translate into my editing Because like it's a lot that correlates with like using those same programs. Like Adobe Premiere Pro is very similar to like Inventor. That's the program I was using before. So how does architecture like translate into your design? Because I feel like everything is connected and everything happens for a reason. So how did that like translate into your design?
Speaker 1:I think it gives me an edge on other people because with architecture I did four years of college of architecture. I didn't go to high school. I didn't do any type of architecture before college, but in college I learned to be a little detail oriented. So I guess that translate over to the brand, because now I just see things a little different. I can't really explain it how I see it in my head, but certain things I'm just like nah, this needs to look like that or this needs to look like this.
Speaker 1:So I just pay attention to details more than the average person would when it comes to clothing or really anything Like. It's even sometimes that I'm looking at stuff Like let's say that the frame on the wall. I could just look at it and just be like yo, that's not perfectly angled and like I won't say that loud because what do you tell yourself?
Speaker 3:It isn't.
Speaker 1:But that's just how my mind works. So I think that gives me an edge when it comes to creating, in a way. And, like you said, some of the programs that we use in the software is I'm able to use them for fashion as well. Like AutoCAD, you could create designs on there. There's rendering software is you can use people and create little mockups on there and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's very like, similar. It's like wow, I didn't even know like, even like the copy and pasting thing. You do a lot of copy and pasting, like for me when I'm editing and I say yo like maybe those four years didn't go to waste. You know exactly, isn't like Virgil Abloh? Didn't he have an engineering background or architecture?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure exactly what it was, but he did. I think he went to school for architecture. I graduated with the degree. Don't quote me.
Speaker 3:But he still studied it.
Speaker 1:Right, and he's not the only one. There's plenty other like people within the fashion world that school for architecture, I think David Adjei. He's more so on the architecture side, not fashion, but he did transition over at some point in his life to create. I think he did create Stephen Curry's sneaker.
Speaker 3:He created his own David, adjei David.
Speaker 1:Adjei.
Speaker 3:Adjei.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:I think he's African.
Speaker 3:Who inspires you Like, who do you really look up to? Like their fly and you would want to collab.
Speaker 1:you know like that's a good question, not a lot. Asap, definitely he's wanted to fly.
Speaker 3:ASAP.
Speaker 1:For Ralph I like his. Like minimalistic but pop and look. He doesn't do too much but it says a lot. Who else?
Speaker 3:You like more street wear?
Speaker 1:I like everything. I like a little bit of everything. But as far as what I would wear, I don't go too deep into like all the high fashion stuff. I think it's because we're from to like like?
Speaker 3:Brooklyn thrives on street culture. You know what? Where like is your brand like? Where does it fall in that category?
Speaker 1:Right now it's more so on the street wear side Street wear. But I do want to get into like high fashion and lifestyle type of clothing. I feel like just doing street wear is just minimizing my potential Street wear. Everyone, literally everyone's doing street wear. There's a thousand brands that you could find in a day. So I'm trying to get into high fashion, get into even furniture.
Speaker 3:I want to do furniture. Oh, that'll be cool, that'll be cool.
Speaker 1:You see how supreme they do their home goods, yeah, yeah. I want to eventually get to that level but everything takes home.
Speaker 3:Don't be dope, I could see I could see you in the same category like Von Dutch, because, like this hat reminds me of my Von Dutch hat a lot and I love that hat so much. And I and I feel like Von Dutch is street wear but at the same time they're like they get noticed in the high fashion and to and I could definitely see that that's also because of the years that they have in the game.
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, they come around for a minute. Yeah, Like for a while. I remember like when at hearty was out, Von Dutch is popping to Good times it was. It was the simple times, simple times, I remember. I fiend for my at hearty shirt.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh. Now we all grown responsibilities.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's still hits though.
Speaker 1:It's coming back. Yeah, I'm realizing a lot of stuff that we used to wear back in the day, like now people wear shorts.
Speaker 3:Yo, that threw me off that. I seen that this summer like that really came back this summer. That that's still like has to grow on me.
Speaker 1:It's still throwing me off a little crazy, because I was always a fan.
Speaker 3:Oh really, I'm about to shit on it.
Speaker 1:I know you was, but even like two, like probably like four or five years ago, I remember I work at George and my sister's looking at me like oh, take those, take those off. I'm like what you mean? And now people wearing them. You see people wearing baggy T's.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You see, big guys cargo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you do it right, you do it right. I'm not going to knock you. But if it's not right and it feels forced, I'm not. You know, because a lot of these trends people just throw it on because it's a trend and it feels forced.
Speaker 1:But if you've been, doing that but history repeats itself like it's yeah to have come back at some point. Who knows another, probably like another, five years from now, people are going to start wearing skinny jeans again.
Speaker 3:I hope not, I hope not, that's not it. Even like when I think of like Eric Abadou, she was ahead of her time because a lot of like females that can dress now they emulate like Eric Abadou, but a little bit more 2023, like slutty, you know, like more skin and out. But she was ahead of her time for sure, and you can see that cycle coming like again.
Speaker 1:It's like a kind of like a hippie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like an earthy yeah.
Speaker 1:I see that a lot nowadays.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially like in certain areas of Brooklyn, you're going to see that more than others, like in Williamsburg, you're going to see that a lot yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really hippie central.
Speaker 3:High key.
Speaker 1:What is your style and like what would you consider your?
Speaker 3:I'll say because, like I did grow up, playing basketball is very tomboyish, but at the same time it's like it's tasteful, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:I like that that shows the sign of confidence. Tasteful, yes, tasteful.
Speaker 3:I feel like I could dress, like I didn't have much time to dress today, but I still feel like I I like. Thank you, I appreciate you, appreciate you. I don't see the feet, but it's not they're not ready for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not ready for that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I always been told I could dress, but I don't really put in much effort because I feel like naturally it just comes to me. Even like growing up playing basketball you just have to look, fly, you know.
Speaker 1:like even it's part of the swag.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like you didn't come dress nice to a game or to.
Speaker 3:You're not nice. Yeah, you're not nice, it will not worry about you. But if you got too much gear on your trash, yeah, you got too much logos. Yeah that's too much your trash. But if you got like a tasteful like you know, the new feets and you gotta look clean. Mm, hmm, exactly, you gotta have your socks a certain way. If you got like little details like that, if you got like the little ankle socks your trash, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 1:As a flagrant.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't do those.
Speaker 3:But yeah, it's just a mixture of basketball culture and, just like you know, good tastes Period.
Speaker 1:How we? You see yourself, I'm probably asking no no See what you say. I like to be in. Ask questions too, Like do you ever see yourself like elevating to another type of wardrobe?
Speaker 3:Of course I want to like, once I get like some Brighten.
Speaker 3:I felt that I would love to like. My whole closet will be I'll say my whole closet will be a mixture of supreme. Imagine life, imagine life. I heard you, heard you. Yeah, I like like stuff that people aren't wearing a lot, even when I like I received free shoes from playing on a team like free Jordans and I gave it away because I don't like looking like everybody else. Are you knowing New York City public schools? If, like Brett 11's, everybody and their mother got that Like after Christmas is over.
Speaker 3:Or first day of school, like everybody got the same sneakers on. I hate that feeling.
Speaker 1:Yes, I hate that feeling Up something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but as soon as you step out of New York, you'll fly as person in the world. It's crazy Calm and stay on.
Speaker 1:I don't know. That's one thing I love about being from New York. Like people just look at us so highly they have us.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember I was working at a zoomies, not zoomies. What's up with journeys?
Speaker 3:I was working at journeys in Connecticut. You know it's Connecticut. They don't really care about how they dress. I don't like the most trash fit and everybody just I'm getting all the sales. Everybody's like, oh my God, like my commission through the roof, yeah, yeah. But I'm like I have on the basic most basic. You guys are going crazy. New York yeah, New York yeah.
Speaker 1:New.
Speaker 3:York, you're doing something wrong yeah. Not against my Connecticut people, but damn y'all doing bad. That's what they call it. The fashion mecca to world, though.
Speaker 1:And I feel like New York is the mecca for a lot of things, though yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's what comes with being a city with 8 million people. Right, I'm probably a little off, but that's what's going to come with it. You have a bunch of ideas, a bunch of creatives, a bunch of people trying to make it. You know, the city of dreams.
Speaker 1:Like literally anything. Anybody in the world wants to find it. You can find a lot of food you can find coffee, people like this, all types of stuff in New York. Yeah, I think that that's also our downfall, though, like that's a completely different topic, but there's so many distractions.
Speaker 1:Being in New York, like I feel like growing up. Maybe if I were to live in another state, or maybe even like Long Island, where it's not so crowded, that I wouldn't have been distracted by so many things growing up and I would have maybe been more focused on my goals.
Speaker 3:That's so true.
Speaker 1:So right now I'm 24. I probably would have been right where I'm at at the age of like 20 years.
Speaker 3:It's true, if I live somewhere else.
Speaker 3:Even like little things, like peer pressure in New York, I feel like it's ramped up to a thousand. It's ramped up here because it's so much pressure to, like you know, fit the status quo and I think just interacting with all these different personalities it's bound to make you want to be the personality that everybody gravitates towards, like everybody wants to be the main character. Everybody wants to, like you know, just be the life of the party here in a way, and I feel like that can be distracting, because the life of the party is somebody that you know is always some. People are always taken from them and they don't really have time for themselves because they always trying to people please and say yes to everybody and please everybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But at least you can see that.
Speaker 1:Right, right, above it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of people don't, until it's like too late in their dreams is just, like you know, just distant memories.
Speaker 1:But I think what helped me with that? Like I told myself from young, maybe like middle school, I was like yo one of the scariest things to me is being 30 and broke. 30 and broke that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know a couple of y'all out there.
Speaker 1:I know a lot and they don't. It don't look good. Like wake up stressed every day.
Speaker 3:And if you have kids, oh my God so yeah, I know a couple of y'all that got kids too and y'all really broke with kids and got the baby mother doing everything fending for herself. Still live with your mother.
Speaker 1:No subs, no subs, yeah, damn.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I feel like it's all about perspective at the end of the day too, because you could have been brought up in Long Island and you could have been, like way different than you are now, because even like people that live here, they have that personality that they develop just because they were forced into it you know, that's a good point.
Speaker 1:I do like to live by. Everything happens for a reason, so I don't necessarily regret or wish I lived anywhere else Like I'm grateful. But I do think about it sometimes, like maybe, if, maybe. All right, even if I stayed living here, maybe if I was just more disciplined with myself, I could have been somewhere faster. I could have accomplished certain things faster than I did. So I don't regret anything, it was just a thought.
Speaker 3:But now you know you need to focus up Probably only got worse because we got more freedom now Exactly and less restrictions.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's so many. Yeah, it's crazy Damn, but we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right.
Speaker 3:No, we gonna be all right. We gonna be all right, Exactly exactly. I don't know if you want to share about like just losing. Losing just like feeling like you're not being consistent enough, because we were talking about that before. Like what keeps you motivated when you in that state?
Speaker 1:Honestly, family, family and my future keeps me motivated. So I was raised from a real family oriented dynamic, so I love being around family. Like that's one of the things that I love the most. If I could do anything, I just spend time with my family. And why? Because most of my family is in Panama, like here in America. I can probably count on my two hands how many family members I have. My immediate family is five, six of us I forced this to parents. That's seven of us in total and it's probably on like three hands. I can count how many. Okay, yeah, but it's not much of us, and I know people who have maybe like 50 members in this state alone.
Speaker 3:Me, that's me. I can't relate Right.
Speaker 1:All of my family is in. Like I go to Panama, I talk to 100 people in a day. That whole family. But back to the point. I eventually one day want to be the person that brings all of my family together.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just what I want to do. Like nothing makes me feel better than being around my family and being able to provide for them.
Speaker 1:And then, aside from that, god, my faith in God just keeps me motivated. Knowing that he's walking with me and guiding me along the way, everywhere I go, that kind of just gives me that push to keep going. One of the things I live by is faith without works. Is that I think that's John chapter two, verse like 14, or something like that Faith without works is that? So, no matter what you're doing, if you're not putting in the work, you got all the faith in the world. You're not putting in the work, nothing's going to happen. So I just that's what keeps me motivated Like, all right, I know I want to be a millionaire, but what am I doing to become that millionaire? What am I? What am I using my time? What am I being around? What am I talking to? What am I learning?
Speaker 3:I think it's a beautiful connection when you build a connection with God and really get to know Him for yourself, not based off of, like, what you learned when you were growing up when you really do the work and get to know God for yourself and see you recognize Him more in your days because I'm praying every day, yeah, and it's like that even gives you that mindset of intent. When you wake up and when you go to sleep You're reminding yourself like I actually woke up today.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Thank you for getting me through this day.
Speaker 1:It's that gratitude.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because a lot of people don't have gratitude.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like, bro, you have a lot. Some people don't have half the things that you have and you're over here complaining because you don't have the fly's gear in the world, but you're not hungry. You have a bed to lay in. Like, come on.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's one thing I learned, I think. I watched the Steve Harvey interview and he said one thing you got to do before you reach successes to give gratitude every day. If you're not thankful for the $10 that you have, you're not going to be able to handle $100. If you're not grateful and know how to handle $100, you won't be able to handle $1,000. So just that sense of gratitude, I feel like, also keeps me motivated, because I don't have everything I want, but I have everything I need.
Speaker 3:For sure. Yeah, that's a bar. I'm going to hold that, hold that Melly Melly, under Right it's like. Even when it comes to the money thing, right, I didn't have a bunch of money when I started. I was in my mom's closet trying to block outside noise just to make sure that everything sounded good. I didn't have a microphone, I was just on my phone in the closet, like looking like a crazy person, just like venting to my phone.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's when you was doing the photo booth stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was when I was doing just audio. I was just audio. I was after the photo booth. I graduated from photo booth and I did just audio, and what that really taught me is that a lot of people wait for the right opportunity and that's not even promised to you. Right now is all we actually have, because right now is full of like every single possibility ever, and it's only it's up to you to capitalize off of that. Because when it comes to money, I feel like a lot of people let money get in the way of their opportunities. Because you're worth something, you're valuable with or without the money. So that's really the mindset like I really had to focus on to even get myself to episode 67.
Speaker 1:And then another thing. You just kind of brought a point to my head. What'd you say? You said that people wait for the right opportunity. I learned there's never really a right opportunity. You create that right opportunity once you start putting in the work and you just run your original stories and it's really hard to solve that right. What's that? When it comes to the brand, I'll get a lot of ideas, and then it was times early on in the path to start in the brand that some of my ideas I would see other people doing them my job. Never put them out, never even put it on paper. It was just a thought. I'm like oh, these thoughts really don't belong to us.
Speaker 1:They're going. It's somewhere in the realm, like these thoughts are just going in the realm, waiting for someone to bring it to life. I'm like, oh, why not just put it into fruition, why not just make it happen instead of waiting for the right time? Because, like I said, there's never going to be a right time. It's either you do it or you don't. Somebody's going to do it eventually.
Speaker 3:It's interesting you brought up that point that these thoughts don't really belong to us, because for me I was brought up. Any single time I have a thought, I try to execute as fast as possible and I don't know if that sometimes that can be bad, because sometimes I do put stuff out prematurely, but at the same time there's a lot of benefit to doing that, because then you get to exercise your creativity, you get to see what like, you get to like, see your potential.
Speaker 1:Basically, even when it's not perfect, but you don't even have to put it out per se Like you can just. Yeah, that's true. Like you was doing the photo booth stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Let's say you had a speech you wanted to give. You could do it for photo booth and never release it. Or, in my case, I do some sketches sometimes but I don't post them anywhere Because I'm like if I post this design, someone's going to steal it. It might not even steal it directly, but they could be influenced.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then it might pop off more.
Speaker 3:But Damn, I didn't even think about it, I'm saying these ideas don't belong to us.
Speaker 1:Like we have ideas in our head that God specifically put for us. Like we all have our own ability, special ability that God gave. But at the end of the day, it's how many people in this world? 8 billion, 7 billion?
Speaker 3:Yeah something like that 8 billion.
Speaker 3:You're the only one thinking what you're thinking. You know I'm thinking of this story, right, I don't even know where I heard this story from, where did I get this story from, but it was about I think it was Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about this. But it was about monkeys, right, and they all lived on different islands, but the islands weren't far from each other, it was like in the same body of ocean. And basically these monkeys were trying to. They were trying to learn how to break a nut, break a nut, but they didn't know how to do it. And then one monkey on one of the islands found out how to break the nut. And then, over time, eventually, the other monkeys were doing it the same exact way that monkey figured out, but they had no way to tell each other how to break the nut. But around the same time they figured out, everybody else started figuring it out on the different. All the monkeys started figuring out on the different islands what do?
Speaker 1:you think?
Speaker 3:I don't know what it is, but it's just an interesting thought that these thoughts really aren't ours, you know, and it was, and he was even talking about. You know, neil deGrasse Tyson is my favorite like person to watch on interviews. He's so smart. He was talking about, like, how the television was created and how it was created and it was three people that had the same patent for colored television around the same time. So like it was like I'm just making updates right now it was like 1866, 1867, 1888. And the same person found out how to bring color to television, but it was around the same, like you know, year back, back, back to back. So like all of these guys had the same epiphany at the same time.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Not even in the same area. Yeah, they were like all over the like, yeah, trying to make the patent, but of course America got the credit, because it's America at the end of the day. But it's just interesting seeing like stuff or hearing about stuff like that.
Speaker 1:That's why, when people tell me they're not really spiritual, I'm like, yeah, let me stay away from you Because there's no way you think that we are the only entities in this, in this universe. There's no way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who are we. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're probably very minuscule to all of the things that there really is Mm-mm.
Speaker 3:You know that's a fact. Like how don't you believe in nothing? That's why, when people say they are atheists, I try to stay away from them. I don't know if I lost any of y'all, but it's probably not for you, it's probably not for me, Like when you say that, like I'm backing all the way away from you because how don't you believe that? How don't you believe in God? Period. I don't care if you think there's 10 guys, but you don't believe in nothing. You just believe in what? What do you believe?
Speaker 1:in for real I don't believe in nothing.
Speaker 3:But like are you that, like self-centered, that you don't see? Life as bigger than you.
Speaker 1:I think they're the biggest, the biggest thing around town, honestly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I don't know.
Speaker 1:I lost it many times, Honestly you don't even want to be the biggest thing around town. Like I feel like having the faith in God, somebody bigger than me. Like I said, it takes a huge weight off my chest, like there's things in this world that I can't control. There's things that I have no control over, and I don't want control over those things either, because it's like that's more. I already worked nine to five. I've run a brand.
Speaker 1:I have family to deal with. Like I already have enough of my play. I don't want to be in control of everything that's going on in the world.
Speaker 3:I mean, I seen it firsthand that God is real. So I hope all of y'all could experience what I've been experiencing. Like I have so many testimonies and it's like people that do claim they're atheists, like I feel like probably they just haven't lived life enough then, because how have you not seen God, like he's everywhere, right Y'all losing me, but Some people's situations is just different. That's true, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:You never really know what anyone's been through. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I'd rather you be an atheist than you a double worshiper, so like that's OD. Yeah, that is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1:Let's go to our TikTok. Let's go to our TikTok Let me see I could come up with some questions for you too.
Speaker 3:OK, I like this question from Nyla Young. When was a specific time, god revealed Himself to you At a time you really needed to rekindle the hunger you have for building your brand?
Speaker 1:To go to question. I wouldn't say God has made His presence known many times, and last year specifically. But this time it's not like it wasn't specific to the brand but just towards my life. But I guess that affects the brand. But last year I went through a little breakup. It wasn't the best time. I'm not going to speak too much on it. It wasn't the best time.
Speaker 1:But after that, I don't know, I just had different conversations with different people and they were all just leaning more towards God and just telling me like oh, you got to get right with God and things would get better. And then I went on a self-enlightened journey. I guess you would call it I don't really know what to call it but I pretty much isolated myself for about the whole year. Of course I spoke to people, but as far as going out, going on dates or even entertaining anyone, I didn't do any of that. No sex, no party, none of that. And I devoted a lot of time to God and I don't know that was the most powerful and most righteous I ever felt in my life, like I felt like nothing could defeat me and things were just going good. So that's what let me know. Like, oh, with God on your side, you can do anything.
Speaker 3:No, for sure.
Speaker 1:And you can't really like you can do stuff without God, but it's not going to go the way you want it.
Speaker 3:It's going to be chaotic and just all over the place and not make sense to you Today.
Speaker 1:I'm like with God he's literally guiding me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1:Listen, exactly Listen, and follow the signs. Like with my life I don't do things that feel wrong Like you. Ever have a situation and you can pick either go left or go right. Yes, and you look left and you're like nah, that ain't it. And you look right and then just it feels so much less, Not as you said that I have a memory.
Speaker 3:Last weekend I had that kind of like because I don't really go out, I just focus on my work, my podcast, and just trying to better myself, period in any way, shape or form. So I try to go into old habits and it did not work Like I think the universe really showed me in a different way. Yeah, like I try to go into it Because I don't really smoke weed like that anymore, barely drink, and even during the summer I'm proud of myself. Usually this is the time like I'm the most tempted to do these things, but I don't feel the temptation. But I felt the temptation last weekend, saturday. I called out and everything.
Speaker 3:I'm like you know what? I'm going to go out with my friend, we're going to be outside, all of that. You know rah, rah, stuff. And already I felt like it was just off, not in terms of her, but in terms of the environment. Like it just felt like yo, this doesn't resonate with me anymore Like y'all playing music, bucking it to 100 miles I mean 100, volume, 100, racing down the street. Like it just felt very yeah, it felt very like damn, I'm putting my life at risk right now, like I'm really. But the old me don't care, like I wouldn't have care, like the fuck, like we're going to make it there.
Speaker 3:But long story short, I got to the place, we were out in Long Island, we wasn't even there for five minutes and I witnessed somebody get shot for the first time. It was the craziest experience of my life. I have never been so like in fear, and seeing other people in fear too was crazy. That happened last weekend and that whole experience reminded me like yo, stop forcing things, because that was a forced experience. Like I didn't even plan to go, yeah, like my day did not make out to be in Long Island at some spot.
Speaker 1:Like I and you pulled off from work too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just to do it. And it's like yo, sometimes you don't need to be forcing things. Just because you did it before, that doesn't mean it's going to like help you with where you're trying to go now.
Speaker 1:Or just because your friends are saying like oh, come on. Yeah, and a perfect example for this. I remember in college, so I was the only friend out of my group of friends that had a car and I thought oh damn, you has lived. Look a little bit, but I think one movie came out. This had to be, I think, avengers, one of the Avengers, but you know how? The only movie there was in Onianta. Yeah, by the way, if y'all didn't know, we went to school together but we didn't really know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1:But the only movie was in Onianta. So we had to drive 30 minutes out and the whole day like they're telling me like, oh, we ought to see the movie tonight. And just something in me is like, nah, I don't want to go, but I don't feel like driving today. And they just kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going. So after a while I'm like, all right, we out. After I get my work done, we out. Why, 10 minutes into the drive to Onianta we hit a deer. The deer hit us, the whole grill to the car is done and I'm like yo, I knew I should have stayed in my ass in my dorm.
Speaker 3:You see, stuff like that, stuff like that, like why.
Speaker 1:It's real life. And then after that I told them I'm like yo anytime, I tell you I don't want to do something, I'm not doing it. Like don't try to influence me to do it, because you see what just happened. We didn't even go see the movie. Like after that happened I'm like, yeah, we're going back.
Speaker 3:No, that's all a dub after that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that, just that, was one point in my life that showed me like yo, if you truly don't feel like doing something, don't do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's not going to end well.
Speaker 1:And ever since then, like I just go with my heart. If it feels good, I'm doing it. If it doesn't feel good, if I'm a little shady about it, I'm going to think two, three times about it. And the spirit is real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and when you understand that, I feel like you're able to recognize God more too. Because even today I recognized him again when I was at the Brooklyn Public Library. I was editing an episode and some guy walks up to me. He's like Yo, what's your name? Like Deja, it's like oh, I'm Brandon. I'm just like who the fuck does nigga want? You know, like I'm trying to edit, I'm thinking he's trying to talk to me, but then he's like really like yo. I see something in you. I'm like what he's like. Like you're not like everybody else, like you're not average, like stuff like that I don't take lightly. You know what I mean. And then it's just like confirmation that he's just like yo, like you're very beautiful and I just want to let you know that I could see your like, I could see that you're going somewhere and I was just like yo, oh my God, like where am I going? Tell me more, you know what?
Speaker 3:Nothing else no that's all he said and he just left. I was just like yo, what is going?
Speaker 1:on. No, it's crazy, but I've been feeling like something like that is like an angel, like you might never see them again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he told me I look like she, I look, I look like some actress. And then I was like who's this actress? And I looked there, I'm like no, I don't look like her and he just walked off and I'm like yo wait, I want more. Like tell me more about like what you see in me. You know, yes, type shit, but not. I was like just confirmation again Every time I come here is confirmation for me.
Speaker 3:With just the atmosphere and just like being inspired, knowing that you know some great podcasters sat here. You know included me, so yeah one, and only yeah.
Speaker 1:Now that that is, though, once you, once you see yourself in rooms that you never even thought of being before it is like, oh, I'm really doing something. It's still just the beginning.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Like the fact that so many people like my brand. Like I knew my brand was going to be cool, but I didn't think it was going to have the impact that it had. Like people really tell me all the time yo, the brand is so fire. I love what it means, I love what you're doing and I've never really heard anything bad about it. Like some people might tell me they don't like the design or something.
Speaker 3:They hate it.
Speaker 1:They like the brand.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Never had someone tell me yo, your brand is black, but I think that's more so, just the, the energy that I'm putting out, because they say that energy that you put out you're going to get that back. If you put out negative energy into the atmosphere, you're going to get that back at some point.
Speaker 3:And I feel like I feel like a lot of like back to New York, like New Yorkers, a whole, like personality and whole spirit. A lot of people feel like, especially females. They feel like yo, let's just be hating, like everybody be hating on me and it when you put out that you're going to attract people to hate on you, so yeah, you attract what you put into the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:My pops told me from young the mouth has a lot of power. So anything I put out into the atmosphere, you're going to always hear me saying something positive, like like even with basketball. My friends tell me I'm one of the cockiest people, but it's like yo, I'm not going to say nobody's better than me, I don't. It could be LeBron. Yeah. Yeah, I'm busting LeBron out. No, no.
Speaker 3:For sure, and that's how you should feel. Honestly, I feel like a lot of people try to trick us out of it because they don't see that in themselves. But that's on you.
Speaker 1:That's, that's misery, love company.
Speaker 3:Misery loves company.
Speaker 1:That's. That's one thing I learned early on. And if you're a miserable person, stay away from me, because, please, I don't need that, please not on this and I don't need that. I don't know if you've seen that video. The dude was standing on the table. He's like wait. He said you're like you coming over here with all of that negative oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Leave that over there. Over here, we are positive Now.
Speaker 1:I love that video, so all that so moved every single day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I've experienced like firsthand I've had a. I had a best friend look me in the eyes and say, like yo, I'm jealous of you, and that's not a good feeling. That really broke my heart, you know, and that made me feel like I have nobody now. Like you did, yo, that feeling like really haunts you.
Speaker 1:And it's like you can't do nothing about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's my life, like what you want me to do yeah, give you what I got.
Speaker 3:And they try to remake to it Like oh no, I'm inspired, I'm like no, that's two different things. Because I had that feeling and now you confirmed it. You know I'm like yo, what do I do now? But for people to actually like boast like yo, I got bitches hating on me that's not something you should boast on, you know, because that is very dangerous. People really do have ill intentions and I rather focus on the people with good intentions, because I feel like that multiplies with your intention goes. That multiplies Right, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:I don't know People like being most hated. I like being the most loved guy in the room because, yeah, people still might snake you, but I'm so aware of things that I'm like, nah, I won't even give you the opportunity to do that and, like I said, the energy that you put out, you get that back. So people show me love everywhere I go. Honestly, I'm not like patting my back enough, but people genuinely show me love anywhere I go.
Speaker 3:That says a lot about you. So do you like for me personally, because we both do this by ourselves, like you're building your brand by yourself in the ground up and I'm doing the same. It's not an easy process. Do you feel like, damn, I wish I had more support because I feel like that?
Speaker 1:a lot.
Speaker 3:Like a team of like individuals that loved what you do as much as you love what you do. Definitely wish I had more, me too.
Speaker 1:One financially. I wish I had a team as well, because literally all the money's coming from me. I rarely get to enjoy my paychecks because I'm putting them into the brand, paying stuff back to some days. I just want to rest, but I know if I take too much rest the brand is not going to flourish. The brand is not. It's an engine. You got to feed the engine for it to keep working. But as far as support, I do wish I had more support and if you're watching this, I'm open to, I guess, interns and you might get paid once the money started coming in. But we're a team.
Speaker 3:You feel me, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But if I had people that devoted their time to the brand as much as me, it would be much appreciated.
Speaker 3:And I feel like I keep going back to New York because I'm really from here. I feel like a lot of people feel like support is, like you know, label as a negative, you know.
Speaker 1:It's Dick.
Speaker 3:Rodden Exactly and I hate that. People are weird.
Speaker 1:But knowing that I just keep it pushing. I know somewhere along the way I'm going to get the support. I mean, even little by little I do get it because. So I guess people like I said, I get love everywhere, I guess because of the energy I put out. But because I've been going so hard with my brand, I guess people can sense that. People see that. So I have videographers hit me up.
Speaker 1:They'll be like oh, let's work, and I'm not the type of person that want to just get free anything from anyone Like, of course, if you're offering it, I take it, but I'll be like yo, nah, I'll pay you and they'll charge me a lower rate than I guess they'll charge other people. But because of that I guess that's what I'm saying Like, little by little I'm getting support here and there. I don't have anyone that's permanent, but I know along the way I'm going to find someone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. I feel like, if we like as a collective culture, like black people period supporting each other, the way these white people be supporting each other, not even just white people like Muslims.
Speaker 1:yeah, a lot of different cultures, every other culture.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's so true. They support each other to the wheels fall off and it's like for us it's so hard to get that and support is free. It's really not that hard.
Speaker 1:Way too much ego.
Speaker 3:What you have to do is just share your friend post. I have people that like just don't even claim they're my friends or family and they don't even follow me on my podcast page. And I don't take it personal because I just want to see the evolution.
Speaker 1:Just keep the same energy you know Once you pop in.
Speaker 3:Man, yeah, I've seen you over there, and stay over there I just that day is going to be hilarious to me. I always talk about it because I know it's going to come.
Speaker 1:But you can't let that phase you though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's my motivation, though you get right in yourself, yeah, but I think that's how I.
Speaker 3:it may be sick, I probably need some therapy, but that's my motivation. The first time my mother listened to my podcast, she violated. She made me cry. She violated. She was like yo, she's Jamaican. I'm not going to say, I'm going to say anything. She was like yo, like. This is stupid. Why would you curse like this on here? Why are you talking about school as a scam? This is not okay. You go to school, you're in college. Why are you talking about school as a scam? This makes no sense. They're like are you okay? I started crying like a little baby because I was like yeah, I was hoping to hear something good from her, but it could have also been just a generational thing.
Speaker 3:She didn't understand it. Right, she didn't understand it. I'm not mad at it, but it really just that's my motivation. That stuff like that motivates me to make her one day be like yo I'm proud of you, I'm like uh, uh, uh.
Speaker 1:So she, she, she watch it now, or does she still feel the same?
Speaker 3:way. She feels the same, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:I would say like yo once the money start coming in, people's minds change completely Yo for real, Completely but that's. That's the world we live in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that goes back to support Like I could have been. I mean, I don't want to dwell on the past, but if I had that little like confirmation, you know how like it could have like expedited where I am now. You know what I mean. But at the same time I'm using it as motivation because I still want to be like uh, uh, what. What about the podcast?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's dope yeah.
Speaker 3:Everybody's motivation is different. I'm trying to think of a question to ask you Okay, let's go back to our question, or you could think of a question.
Speaker 1:Um, who is someone that you would love to podcast?
Speaker 3:Amanda seals. Yeah, it's like the 10th time I'm saying this.
Speaker 1:Is it crazy?
Speaker 3:I don't know who that is she all right. Do you watch insecure with Issa Rae?
Speaker 1:I've watched a few episodes.
Speaker 3:She's the light skinned one with the blonde hair. I'm going to just pull up a picture, but why her? She's a big podcaster and that's like one of the first podcasts I actually resonate with and I like how she just is as a person. She's very like smart, but at the same time she's funny. She's not funny and that's, like you know, the vibe I would like to go for. You know I applied for a job for her podcast. I'm still waiting to hear back down. Well, I know she is.
Speaker 3:I know who you are no Amanda sales slender hair please.
Speaker 1:Come get interviewed and chop it up with the great dates. It's just good vibes over here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and I feel like she's a Brooklyn night too, so yeah, Shout out to Brooklyn man.
Speaker 1:Shout out to everybody from Brooklyn. Thanks. You from Brooklyn. Thanks, you probably got a great soul. It's a lot of shiesty ones with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1:You got a good heart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, under all of that toughness.
Speaker 1:Under a lot of pain. Yeah, I have a lot of people on the podcast Wolf.
Speaker 3:Wolf from all the people. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Wolf from HalfwayUp, I wanna collab with you.
Speaker 1:What's going on? He here every day. Yeah, I was gonna be working. He be busy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where do you see yourself 10 to 20 years from now?
Speaker 3:Like it could, I don't like thinking that far out I'm not even gonna lie, yeah, because I feel like that puts limitations on where I could potentially go. I'm very spontaneous.
Speaker 1:But you know you say it puts limitations, but I feel like so, life is about perspective. So you think in 10, 20 years from now. I feel like it does the opposite. It kind of sets a standard for where you should be. Yeah, because limitations is like it's not like you think in 10 years like oh, I wanna.
Speaker 3:It's just because I like focusing on it now, because the unknown scares me. It brings me anxiety. Yeah so just for my own peace of mind, I just like not thinking that far out.
Speaker 1:But do you think it's more sort of like what you call it, a personal thing Like yo? If I don't have this, then I'm letting myself down.
Speaker 3:I think it's just too much Like Egg when I think that far out, I don't know. It's just like my brain, literally like I just don't like thinking that far out cause the unknown scares me.
Speaker 1:like I said, so realistically, how far do you think out?
Speaker 3:Like the week Really. No, I'm being so serious. It just puts less pressure on me, like mentally.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I feel like I can't think only as far as a week.
Speaker 3:That's why, even like, when you say your birthdays next week and you're like yo, what you got planned, and I'm just like maybe I'll go here and I know I'm going to go there, but like I don't like planning things, it's just not in me to plan things, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm gonna say I think you should just at least think have an idea of what you want to do 10, 20 years from now.
Speaker 3:Cause then I know what I want, but I can't picture it.
Speaker 1:You could kind of navigate a little better where you want to go, Like if you know, you want to be a public speaker. Podcasting is perfect for that Cause. Now you're practicing how to speak to people, you're practicing talking in front of a crowd and you'll know like, all right, I need to stay within this realm. But if public speaking is not, yeah, hell no. Let's say, you want to be a wrestler, podcasting is not what you should be doing if you want to be a wrestler yeah that's true.
Speaker 1:I get what you're saying, but I don't think the way I think about it. I think everything connects.
Speaker 3:At the end of the day, yeah, I think you could take something from anything. Even if you think it doesn't connect, you could find something that connects with it.
Speaker 1:That is true.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I know what I want to do, but like to actually picture myself and be like yo. I couldn't envision this. I probably need to work more on that. So what do you want to?
Speaker 1:do then.
Speaker 3:I want to do like filmmaking, like creative directing along that realm.
Speaker 1:So you don't think pretty far out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know what I want to do it. But to actually say like yo, in 10, 15 years from now I will be in LA with the like. I can't even like fathom all of that Like nah, I don't.
Speaker 1:that's real specific. I don't think down to the T, but you have an idea. Yeah, like 10, 15 years from now, you definitely be a licensed architect. Ooh. I want to have my own like studio to create, and so I'll do like, like I said, the furniture stuff, do clothing in there and do architecture in there, have a wife and kids like that. It's still pretty broad, but I have an idea Like I have a it's kind of like a picture on the wall Like I don't have an idea.
Speaker 3:You see, I have an idea, but when I start thinking about the idea, I have to think about the details of the idea, and then it just gets overwhelming.
Speaker 1:I get it.
Speaker 3:Like how am I going to get there? I haven't even you know like say like, oh, I want to be married by this, but how am I going to get there If I'm, you know like I've been in what one relationship for real? So it's like how am I going?
Speaker 1:to get there. You got to get out there more.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Put yourself in that pool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just have to throw myself out in the deep end and learn how to swim for real, like you're stepping that fire for real. Yeah, that's the one like getting burned for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, let's see.
Speaker 3:That was a good one, like that question. Yeah, I need to work on answering that question. I feel like that's a common question that I'll always feel like I don't know Cause. I mean, even on job interviews they act that a lot.
Speaker 1:And you never have a.
Speaker 3:I'll always be bullshitting. Whatever you want to hear, I'm going to answer Like yeah, Whatever sounds good to you, I need that job.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's kind of like just having a structure. Like you said, too many people live in the now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm contradicting myself when I say that Like long-term and short-term. That's how I started off the episode. But I'm kind of contradicting myself. But I don't think I still have that long-term mindset but at the same time I feel like tomorrow is not promised. I know it's a dark way of thinking.
Speaker 1:No, but you're right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so like when I try to, when I think of something I'm trying to like.
Speaker 1:Get to it.
Speaker 3:Execute right now, because like tomorrow is not promised.
Speaker 1:How do you think that works?
Speaker 3:for you, is it? Um, I think it's good. I think it's working for me so far, but, like I said, sometimes I do put out stuff prematurely and I need to like, really like work on it and plan it out better. But for the most part I'm happy.
Speaker 1:You gotta think a little further out. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3:I do, I do Even like these interviews, like I set this up last, like I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh no, this was planned out, this was planned out.
Speaker 3:You gave me a day. Yeah, you gave me a day, but usually when I set up podcast interviews it's pretty chaotic. It's like yo you trying to be on and like when Tomorrow?
Speaker 1:Like oh, all right. I mean, sometimes it's like that though.
Speaker 3:Especially in New.
Speaker 1:York everybody's busy, it's kind of hard to. Yeah, that's true, someone to come to a certain place at a certain time. Because even with my brand. We're doing shoots Legit. I hit people up the same day Like yo, bro, I'm shooting at five o'clock, can you make it? And they're like no, I have to reach out to the next person, but it's still gonna get done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I remember the commercial for the shorts you.
Speaker 3:Yo, that was fire, thank you. Thank you At Brooklyn Bridge, yeah.
Speaker 1:So originally the plan was to have like five, six different people there. Two people playing each different sport. It was gonna be basketball, football, soccer, and I had people that was gonna come the day of people canceling, ended up with one dude, just the guy you see in the video. Oh and it worked out.
Speaker 3:It worked out.
Speaker 1:That's what I was like. You know what. Maybe this might have been the better idea, Like if we tried to do it with too many different people, it would have been a bunch of confusion, too much for the commercial. And everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 3:Now that worked out pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shout out to, shout out to Lord, shot, shout out to my son Tish.
Speaker 3:Even the idea. You had that idea with multiple people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 1:It worked better with one person though. I don't know how it would have came out with a bunch of people. I was kind of envisioning like a Nike type vibe.
Speaker 3:It gave Nike vibes when I looked at it.
Speaker 1:But the one person. It worked out pretty good, honestly so.
Speaker 3:I can't complain. Yeah, it was funny as fuck. I don't know. That's the thing with planning too. That kind of scares me. It's like your plans don't always happen. You know, that's like you know what. Let me leave it to God. God, you gonna plan it self for me. I'm gonna just go.
Speaker 1:Nah, but that's what faith when I work through death, Like that's a big thing you gotta?
Speaker 3:But I am doing the work in the now you know.
Speaker 1:You can't just like I know they say let go and let God, but you gotta put in some type of work, Like you gotta plan something and then whatever happens along the way is like that's God, Like you see God.
Speaker 3:But God's plan? Drake said God's plan I'm doing, I'm just gonna follow whatever God want me to follow in my days.
Speaker 1:But look you see, God's plan was for there to be one person in the video, in the commercial, but I went out and got six.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it's like if I didn't go out and get six, I would have had none.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know what I'm saying Okay, you know what I'm saying, but I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:Like God's gonna put in and take out whatever you don't need or whatever you do need and add it to the plan, but you still gotta have the plan.
Speaker 3:Hmm, maybe I need to go back to the drawing boards, guys, after this.
Speaker 1:We can be happy.
Speaker 3:Cause I'm doing the work. It's not like I don't, but like I see by faith and not by sight. You see, I know some scriptures too. Stop playing with me. I see by faith, not by sight. So I really yeah, I really know that everything's gonna be good, even if I don't have the plan yet Yet. I'm gonna work on it. But is there like any last question you're gonna ask? I'm gonna wrap it up.
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