In this week's episode, cultural journalist Juan Malachi joins me in discussing NYC modern-day party culture. We journey from the era of flip phones to TikTok parties, iconic venues like Old Tababoo and Lot 45 and much more.
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In this week's episode, cultural journalist Juan Malachi joins me in discussing NYC modern-day party culture. We journey from the era of flip phones to TikTok parties, iconic venues like Old Tababoo and Lot 45 and much more.
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Also just optimizing the moment, because I'm someone who's really big on efficiency, maximizing situations, maximizing opportunities. If I'm going in there and I'm trying to dance and nobody's dancing, okay, I'm gonna pivot. Now I'm gonna go ahead and say, all right, I'm about to turn on my network and hat now, Okay, I like that Because the thing is parties be mad long. They be going from 11 to 4. How many hours is that? That's a lot of hours, depending on the time you get in there. That's a lot of time, yeah, and it's like if you in there and you not maximizing the time.
Speaker 1:What are you doing? I'm not one of those people that's just going stand in the corner and just be real nice. Try to look cool. Try to look cool, be nonchalant about it. Nah, I even talk to dudes when I'm in a club. What up Like where?
Speaker 3:you going oh, networking stuff or like okay.
Speaker 1:I be going in and it's like I always like. My first mind is to always go in there and party and dance. Dance is my first priority Facts I felt that, but sometimes that don't be happening and they be having the tech talks and the Instagrams.
Speaker 3:This is what be killing the fun. Sometimes I feel like, what the phones right? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I also got to think about how I was back in the day pre-chandemic, you think about, like the early 2000s, you know, when, you know, like Ludacris was out, mm-hmm Maya, yeah, maya. Jay was in his prime, yeah, you know, when we had the flip phones, the rain, the sidekicks. I think that was really the last era of partying, yo, at least in America, I don't know.
Speaker 3:No, it was, it was it was. And I just feel like, even when you look at the music videos at the time and they're capturing the club scene and certain music videos, I'm like, wow, that was a vibe.
Speaker 1:Word, word and and it's like it's so hard to kind of indulge in that vibe nowadays. Yeah, Because I think people was like super self-conscious as well.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I think that plays back into the social media. Like I went to a party with my brother and people doing TikTok dances. This is right after the pandemic. Yes, they're making TikTok videos talking about Corvette, corvette. I'm like bro in the middle of a party, though.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, we not doing that. I'm like no, we what?
Speaker 3:happened to society? What happened?
Speaker 2:No, we not doing that. What happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to say it with your chest Like you're really from here. I didn't feel that. Yeah, okay, I like that one a little better, a little better, a little nonchalant. I'm a little mild man.
Speaker 1:Nah, I get that.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, okay, welcome to Mind Over Matter baby. I'm your host, deja Wallace, and if it's your first time joining me, welcome. If this is not your first time joining me, welcome back. I appreciate you. Shout out to you you real, you loyal, I appreciate you. Episode 73, big 73.
Speaker 1:Big 73.
Speaker 3:Big 73. Not the little, and I have a lovely guest, as you can see, and I'm going to be joining her.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, Welcome.
Speaker 3:Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having me, Deja.
Speaker 1:On this rainy day. Yes, very melancholy, very somber, very doomsday-esque type of day.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm Joanne Malachi. I'm a culture journalist. For those of you who do not know me, currently I am a staff writer for Blavidy, and we're here to talk about some good stuff.
Speaker 3:Yes, some interesting stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it.
Speaker 3:Today we're going to talk about just your perspective on the New York City party scene.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Clubbing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so.
Speaker 3:Are you a party person, Are you not? We're going to get into all of that in today's episode okay, okay, let's do it, let's get money. Let's get it. Kick back, relax and enjoy this episode. Mm-hmm, I really so like f*** this laptop honestly, Because I really want to get into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk him, let's talk him.
Speaker 3:Are you a party goer?
Speaker 1:Yes. So to say I'm a party goer is actually a severe understatement, mm-hmm, because I maybe I want to say from like Thursday to like Saturday evening, saturday night, you know, into Sunday and the wee morning hours, you know, I'm out and about, and whether it's in the form of, you know, going to a party, going to a social mixer, going to a professional event, I get invited to a lot of those type of things, mm-hmm. Happy hour, you know the list goes on. More often than not I'm going to be there attending. And also, just to add some context, I'm a very avid socialite. I'm very much a social butterfly, mm-hmm. I don't like tense up in social settings. I actually feel like social settings are super liberating for me, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Okay, you're a rare kind in our generation.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like a lot of people are more on the antisocial and when we figure out our favorite sign.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's definitely not me at all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's interesting because we actually met in that setting. Yep in a party, yeah, inside out to beautiful faces.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what was the location? Again, um.
Speaker 1:Williamsburg, scott Street, yeah, scott Street.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that venue was fired. Yo, that venue was a movie Mm-hmm, and that was actually my second time going there. And than the second one. No damn, I didn't go for that one. I don't know. Their venues are always fire, though I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean for the most part.
Speaker 3:I had one to all white one this summer before, and Jay Critch was in there.
Speaker 1:It was like yo it was a vibe.
Speaker 3:That was the first time I actually seen like shrooms, like a bunch of shrooms in a bag. I'm like, oh my God, what is going on? I'm scared.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm on type of vibe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you would have loved it. I'm not even going cap, you would have loved it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, how do you? How rate your summer? Because I know you was partying all summer. That's where we met this summer. We met at Beautiful Faces, so rate your summer.
Speaker 1:My summer, and so in terms of partying, I give it like an 8.5 maybe.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's not bad, that's not bad.
Speaker 1:It was a lot of, a lot of like fun activities going on In the summertime. You know we had everyday people. You know, I kind of discovered South House for real, for real, like this year. Which is the old guy in touch with, like the guy who runs it, Shout out to Toche, Shout out to Tubbs, you know. Shout out to, you know, all the DJs that be over there too.
Speaker 3:Big up, big up, big up.
Speaker 1:Big up, big up, dj Mahogany. You know, sidney Love, those are some of my faves. Shout out to the Homies. Real House.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I always feel like the New York City scene is always going to be lit. You know what You're in New York City like. It's a vibe, the culture is just different.
Speaker 1:But and it's also such so eclectic. Yes, in terms of like the options that you have.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's a melting pot.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a melting pot for sure. I've been to Old Tababoo a lot, which is RIP to Old Tababoo. They actually closed this summer, damn, but they were really prominent black-owned bar in Brooklyn, over on Dean Street in Washington. Okay. And it was super poppin. I hosted like my graduation party there. Oh wow, real like swanky, real like you know high-class type vibes, but the music was always poppin and I remember they had like a end of existence party and I think for like that sounds intense I know that name sounds so intense.
Speaker 1:I know it was a small venue and they literally had people taking over the whole sidewalk, taking over the street. It was that beloved in the community.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Right down the block from Brooklyn Museum and I had some good nights over there. Spent a lot of nights at Lot 45 over in Williamsburg.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I heard it there.
Speaker 1:Lot 45 is like a mainstay common spot that I frequent. Where I was elsewhere was another venue I occupied.
Speaker 3:So if y'all looking for New York City clubs, just go to this guy. He's dropping all of them right now. Like you don't got to go to TikTok or Google search you don't need to do none of that.
Speaker 3:He's going to tell you where it's popping for sure. I think we're kind of opposite ends of the spectrum, which is very interesting in this conversation, because I don't think I'm a party goer. I enjoy parties. I am not a party goer by option. I think, in essence, like, naturally I like partying, like it's fun for me. I don't. I'm not like, oh, I don't want to go out. I want to go out, but for me, I think it's more so. I am like I want to go out for like a purpose. I'm not, I'm very spontaneous, but at the same time I want to know that it's going to be lit. Party's not lit, then why would I go?
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree. You seem like someone who's very deliberate and very calculated about their moves.
Speaker 3:That's something I that sounded kind of crazy, but yeah he's right, I'm intentional, yeah very intentional. Yeah, yeah. I mean calculated has somewhat of a Odd connotation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, odd connotation.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean it's nothing wrong with being calculated Intentional. That'll make your next move your best move Fact. I feel like that's how you operate.
Speaker 3:Yeah Damn, you got that already for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have like, you're like the living embodiment of that.
Speaker 3:Oh snap, okay, I'm going to take that. How I take it? I don't want to know Like I still need to sit with that, especially as a female. I think partying going is a little different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You know males could go to Like you can go to a party by yourself. Yeah, you can go to the bar by yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could.
Speaker 3:You've done it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've done it. I'm not gonna go that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so like I'm not, possibly, possibly We'll see. I don't know I don't know, I want to pop out, but like I don't want to look like. You look great, I look great, but like the drip is dripping. The drip is dripping, all right, I might go out there. I might go out there.
Speaker 1:The drip is doing what it needs to do.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I feel like for females it's different, like we cannot go out by ourselves, like that's dumb, that's like no, don't do that. That's like a lifetime movie that you're gonna end up on for age 48. So don't do it. Anything serious. Yeah, I think males get to explore that realm a little bit more freely. Like you, guys aren't getting touched by strangers as much as us and stuff, so I do look at parties in a bit more calculated way, as you said before.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's interesting To speak to that. I mean, I feel like men are a bit privileged in the party space. I've heard from my female friends about the inappropriate touching, sometimes the obscene gestures that take place in the club, and I got to just say that I definitely don't condone any of that. I think that this post pandemic world that we live in, a lot of people haven't sort of developed the skills necessary to interact with women and that sort of environment in an appropriate way, and I think that that's something that a lot of men should work on for sure. I mean, for me, when I'm in those type of environments, I like to be very forthcoming with my intention. I like to be vocal before I even touch you. That's not even a thing, that's not even my approach. Like, I like to ask you would you like to dance, would you like even to talk to me? I mean, I kind of gauge the temperature before I go ahead and make that sort of like full flesh. You're a gentleman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a gentleman, and then it's crazy because I had that approach, but then sometimes it don't work. Sometimes I get like a bevy of different type of responses in the club. I think one response I get is that maybe the next song we could dance, maybe not this particular song, maybe the next song. So I get that sometimes.
Speaker 3:That's not rejection, though. That's just a.
Speaker 1:No, it's not rejection per se. I get that sometimes. What else do I get? I get oh, I'm with my friends right now. Sometimes.
Speaker 3:But you know that's funny because I use both of those. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1:What else I mean? Sometimes I get a plain no, and that's cool too. I think the key is to not take anything personal, though.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes. And you know that's the biggest key right there, because I've seen it and I've been a product of it, where I said no straight up and then I got a. Okay, then fuck you, then I didn't want you anyways, yeah, ugly.
Speaker 1:And it's like what. That's why you know what that is. That's ego. Yeah, insecurity, yeah, that's true when you meet a guy that is self assured and confident and you know, and himself he's not going to try and downplay you, he's not going to try and bring you down. And, you know, disseminate all this like condescending.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's true.
Speaker 1:Verbage and you know like those are people you don't want to rock with to begin with, and they just showing you Exactly, and that's why I said no from the start. You know, yeah, yeah, like, nah, I mean, you're doing better without them.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, can I crazy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course. Fuck shit, bitch Negus it. Fuck them, that's what I said. Fuck them.
Speaker 1:You ain't needed them again. With yeah, better off without them.
Speaker 3:Exactly how do you feel about like social, this social media generation, when it comes to party?
Speaker 1:because oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Even like pretty beautiful faces. Yeah, it feels like everybody on my Instagram and TikTok was there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I also want to also just put into perspective that beautiful faces was arguably the single best party I went to. It's definitely top three, and that's crazy, because that's the only like party I went to for real. For real.
Speaker 3:Well, we met at a good time because yeah, that was the only party I went to this summer.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, I was having.
Speaker 3:That's why I said I'll go with intentions, because I knew it was going to be lit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, nah, it was. It was like I was like a kid in a candy store.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that party was lit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know, the gender ratio was pretty proportionate. The vibes were vibing.
Speaker 3:It was the start of the summer. Like the anticipation was in the air for summer 2023. Like everybody was ready to just have a good time.
Speaker 1:That was the perfect embodiment of like what a quality party looks like.
Speaker 3:Yes, for sure for sure.
Speaker 1:I feel like majority of the parties are, you know, decent. They're not good or great Nowadays, like if we're going to keep it a stat. Yeah, I think that, going back to what you were saying about the social media era, I feel like a lot of people going in with the intention of, you know, broadcasting what they're doing.
Speaker 1:I mean, everybody like like when you see certain parties on Instagram, you get this automatic impression that wow, like they're having such a great time, you know, depending on how they like depicting it. And you know, I mean sometimes it be lit, but sometimes it don't be lit, like, yeah, frankly, sometimes it just looks that way and it kind of just goes back to like this they're just good at capturing it on camera. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know how I know this is true Like beautiful faces. This summer that one party I went to was really good, but I have like great Gage on parties because, like I've party outside the country, if you party outside of America, you know like it's a different vibe, like if you go on a cruise or something, or like if you go to like Island or something. It's a different vibe. Like I've partied in Jamaica before and that is like my standards are very high when it comes to because I've seen you seeing what it could get to, exactly what it should look like and what it should look like. You have people from 70 to 13 all dancing and they all know how to dance. I don't know how, but they all know how to dance and it's just a vibe like you feel the spirit, you don't feel awkward, you don't feel like, oh, let me try to look cool and take somebody on my phone because I don't want to socialize. It feels so comforting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just like nothing I've ever experienced here ever but beautiful faces is the closest thing I ever experienced to it.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean shout out to beautiful faces. You know sort of far.
Speaker 3:Then they got some free promo here. Oh, do you?
Speaker 1:promo. I actually met, like one of the guys who run beautiful faces.
Speaker 3:Okay, dope.
Speaker 1:Like some brothers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I've definitely. It's so obvious, is some brothers that runs that.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah. So group of brothers shout out to them.
Speaker 3:Oh, so they're actual brothers. I thought you meant brothers as in black people. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they're black but yeah, okay, they're actual brothers. That's actually cool.
Speaker 1:So I think another thing that I think about when I'm going to these parties is like and it's dope to have you here, because I wanted to get the female perspective, because I can only go off with my perspective when I'm in a club, but I want to know what is the goal when you're sending that club. Ooh, that's a good question. That's really what I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 3:That's a good question.
Speaker 1:Is it just to just have a good time, solo-dolo? Have a good time with your showities, with your homegirls. Is there ever any inclination to meet somebody?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:What is that roaming through your minds Because you've got to know that somebody's going to approach that this is my opinion straight off the bat.
Speaker 3:I have to say that because I know social media loves coming for people and their opinions. But of course everybody's going to have their different reasons for going to the club. We're all different, but me personally, I go to the club because I want to have a good time and in the back of my mind there's always something that feels like, okay, I might meet somebody important that can add a lot of value to my life. And it doesn't have to be romantically, like you, I met you and it's like, okay, he's cool. It doesn't have to be romantically, but secretly we do want it to be romantically in our subconscious.
Speaker 1:But for me I don't know if they're necessarily expecting that to happen or something.
Speaker 3:No, because we know that's kind of delusional in a way that's not guaranteed. That's delusional per se.
Speaker 1:It's not guaranteed. Yeah, it's sort of like aspirational.
Speaker 3:It's aspirational. I like that word better.
Speaker 1:It's aspirational, yeah but it's most ideal, it's ideal, it's an ideal situation.
Speaker 3:But I feel like everybody, no matter who boy, girl, you want to go to a party to have a good time.
Speaker 1:I agree, I definitely agree. And one thing I keep in mind always when I'm in a party setting is quality of a quantity, that's one thing I think about, and then also.
Speaker 3:You say that in terms of coming in groups and stuff.
Speaker 1:Just the people I interact with, because I'm very comfortable with going dolo places.
Speaker 3:That takes a lot.
Speaker 1:I mean, for me it don't take much. I could go anywhere and make an associate and make an acquaintance. I could go, irrespective of race, color, creed, background, anywhere.
Speaker 3:Your social butterfly.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm a social butterfly and I have enough experiences in my life to be able to connect with a wide array of different types of people. Also, just optimizing the moment, because I'm someone who's really big on efficiency, maximizing situations, maximizing opportunities. So if I'm going in there and I'm trying to dance and nobody's dancing, okay, I'm a pivot. Now I'm going to go ahead and say, all right, I'm about to turn on my networking hat now, okay, I like that, because the thing is parties be mad. Long. They be going from 11 to 4. How many hours is that? That's a lot of hours, depending on the time you get in there. That's a lot of time, yeah, and it's like, if you in there and you not maximizing the time, what are you doing? I'm not one of those people that's just going to stand at the corner and just be real nice.
Speaker 1:Try to look cool, try to look cool. Be nonchalant about it. I'm going to talk. I even talked to Dudes when I'm in the club what up, like you know what?
Speaker 3:you doing, oh, networking stuff or like okay.
Speaker 1:I'll be going in and it's like I always like. My first mind is to always go in there and you know, party and dance, dance is like my first priority Facts.
Speaker 3:I felt that.
Speaker 1:But then, but sometimes that don't be happening and you know they be having the tech talks and the Instagrams and you know yo that this is what be killing the fun.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I feel like what the phones? Right? Yeah, we're sure we also got to think about how it was back in the day, pre pandemic.
Speaker 1:You think about like the early 2000s, you know, when you know like Ludacris was out, like Maya Maya Jay was in his prime, yeah, when we had the flip phones, the rain, the side. I think that was really the last era of partying, yo, at least in America.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I can't know it was, it was, it was, and I just feel like even when you look at the music videos at the time and they're capturing the club scene and certain music videos, I'm like, wow, that was a vibe.
Speaker 1:Word, word, and it's like it's so hard to kind of indulge in that vibe nowadays. Yeah, because I think people was like super self conscious as well.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I think that plays back into the social media. Like I went to a party with my brother and people doing TikTok dances. This is right after the pandemic.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:They're making TikTok videos talking about Corvette, Corvette. I'm like bro in the middle of a party, though.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, we not doing that. I'm like no, we what?
Speaker 3:happened to society? What happened?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I feel like the pandemic really made a huge imprint on people's lives. Yes, I think some people weren't afforded the opportunity to sort of learn how to navigate those type of spaces, to develop the acumen necessary to like properly navigate those type of spaces, and now we got to just a bunch of ignorant people in the club not really know how to navigate and how to maneuver.
Speaker 3:I heard somebody tell me that he goes to the club and sometimes he goes on his like if he doesn't feel like dancing because nobody's dancing, and he doesn't want to look like a lame because he thinks girls aren't attracted to guys that dance, which is not true, he said. Sometimes he goes on his calculator app.
Speaker 1:Calculator for what?
Speaker 3:Just to look like he's doing something. I'm like what?
Speaker 1:This is where we've. He needs to reevaluate, reevaluate some things, but that's just the like.
Speaker 3:Everybody's so self conscious they think everybody's looking at them and they care about what you do. Nobody gives a damn what you're doing and like a week from now, nobody's going to remember your name for real.
Speaker 1:It's an in the moment type of thing. Most of the people in those rooms you're never going to see again, and the people that you do see again, maybe you'd be fortunate enough to establish a genuine rapport. I don't know. I guess a big dilemma for me is just like the not dancing in the club, because it's always. It's very irritating to me. You know, being somebody who was was dancing was whining from like seventh grade.
Speaker 3:Okay, wasteline.
Speaker 1:Oh crazy, and I'm not. I'm not Caribbean, but I grew up around a lot of.
Speaker 3:Okay, I would have thought you were Caribbean.
Speaker 1:No, I'm actually Afro Latino technically, so. Oh okay, what country Shout?
Speaker 3:out, so so.
Speaker 1:So I'm actually my father is Honduran Interesting, yeah, and we're from this. This tribe in Honduras called the Garufa, not tribe. Okay, it's different. Yeah, it's a little different and then. So my mom is African American.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:You know, by way of like Columbia, south Carolina. So yeah, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a mixed breed, so to speak. And then also I've grown up in New York my entire life, and so you know Caribbean culture was, was very embedded in my upbringing. When I even go back to middle school I think about. You know, I was, I was dancing, I was whining. In seventh grade they used to have parties in the lunchroom.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fag save.
Speaker 1:And then they used to get rid of all the tables Same and I'm like wow, like that was such a time, what a time to be alive. And you know, I'm accustomed to that type of stuff. And then, you know, growing up, even going to high school I went to Christopher Columbus High School in the Bronx, so you know, going to high school they used to have parties in the gym and you know, and those moments I didn't know, I mean my objective was to have fun. But also having that experience allowed me to have, like, my training and how to navigate those party type of spaces. You know how to approach the girl.
Speaker 3:That's so funny because, damn, we lived the same life All the inner city kids, we lived the same life. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Because I would party him from pretty pretty young too, yeah, but I didn't even know it was partying until I got older. I just thought it was like regular life, like you know, like it's Friday, like they're having this $5 team pasta pasta thing yeah, somebody's backyard, why not?
Speaker 1:You know why not? Yeah, also, you got to take into account the fact that there's so many people in New York that come from different places. We have so many transplants, and I'm not saying that in a negative way, this is just an objective reality. There's a lot of transplants out here and you know everybody has like a different perspective on dancing and stuff like that I don't know. If you remember, you know the whole situation with Chance the Rapper.
Speaker 3:I do remember that.
Speaker 1:You remember that he was training.
Speaker 3:He was whining yeah.
Speaker 1:Some people was talking about he was cheating on his wife and Me personally. I'm like y'all bugging.
Speaker 3:Me personally, I wouldn't take like I wouldn't look too deep into it because I am Jamaican, so I wouldn't look too deep into it. You know what I mean? It's just a dance, but I can see why people who aren't familiar with that culture will look at it a certain way. I understand both sides of it.
Speaker 1:No, I understand too. I understand I understand me being from my background and dancing whining being such a commonplace thing. You know, being an inner city kid that grew up in Bed-Stuy, brooklyn, and you know Allyson Avenue in the Bronx. These are like normal, everyday things. It's just as normal as waking up in the morning, expect oh, you going to a party. All right, you know there's gonna be Daggering. Yes, there's gonna be that type of intimate dancing. Yeah, and that's just regular. That's not even something we think about. But then there's people.
Speaker 3:It would be weird if that wasn't happening. I'd be like this shit ass If that wasn't happening.
Speaker 1:That's a fact and that's really how it would be sometimes. Yeah, that's how it would be sometimes, but you know it is what it is. I mean, I'm trying to figure out what'll rectify the issues that we're currently undergoing in terms of the contemporary party scene.
Speaker 3:I think phones might have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's the biggest downfall we might have to eliminate phones.
Speaker 3:There's certain clubs I know that you go in, but these are more like in the LGBTQ community. They have clubs where they put their phones in baskets and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you go party.
Speaker 1:I mean that's a great solution. It sounds like I mean I don't know if that'll really really make a difference.
Speaker 3:I think it would.
Speaker 1:I think it would too. I feel like people wouldn't have no excuse to do anything else.
Speaker 3:Exactly as well. You're forced to interact with the people around you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are forced, you are forced. I think that I feel like we live in this isolationist society now too, because people aren't too keen on networking and getting to know each other, establishing camaraderie among your peers and stuff like that. It's like a real doggy dog crabs in a barrel type of thing going on and that's sad, honestly one of my boys was telling me we kind of live in the dark ages a little bit in terms of certain things, in terms of connectivity to one another.
Speaker 3:Yeah, human interaction yeah, human interaction. Because we're more likely, we're more enthusiastic to interact with somebody through the phone than to interact with somebody in person. And I think the pandemic kind of kickstarted that kind of isolation period, because we were literally in isolation during the pandemic. So that kind of like. That kind of like what's the word, like what's?
Speaker 1:that for.
Speaker 3:I would say like it kind of like babysit, like nurtured us to like this point. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like the precursor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we had nobody was telling us we had to interact with people. They were actually encouraging us not to interact with people for months and months on end. Yeah, yeah, they were. This actually affected us psychologically and the repercussions of this isn't being discussed at all. Yeah, it's just being like.
Speaker 1:Overlook.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just being executed really and nobody's really talking about it, because this is a period over a year, we can say that people were in their house, not able to do anything interact with people and we're actually living in the effects of it. So this is something that was bound to happen and we knew like that's bound to happen. If you take human interaction away from humans which is psychologically we need human interaction Like babies, they will die if they do not have any type of interaction. So it's like innate in us to have human interaction. So to take that from us and then to pretend like, okay, here's back. Human interaction Act regular, it's not going to happen. Like you have to learn how to interact with each other again because we were so in the phones during that time that we made that a crutch, in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's, and that's why I want to get to this question right here. Do you think the quality of living and people's like day to day lives affects the party scene? Because, like I said, like when I go overseas and I party, the quality of living is better than in New York City in a lot of places, like the mental health is better in a lot of places in New York City and the party scene reflects that. Here I feel like people are just partying to get rid of their problems, to like, just like say, oh, I got through this week, thank God. Like I got through this week, let me just blow my money on this. I made my money this week. Let me just blow my money on this and forget about all the turmoil I had to go through this week. That's what I feel like partying is in New York City. It's like a big gapism, exactly so. Do you think the quality of people living circumstances affects the party scene?
Speaker 1:That's a good question, thanks, I mean, I don't know, I feel like people will do what they want and you know what they can afford to do, and I don't know if there's been like a sort of like phenomenon and where, like you know, people have been utilizing party until, like, cope with whatever like personal issues they might be undergoing. I mean, I could speak for me in the sense that I use kind of partying myself as a form of escapism to some degree.
Speaker 3:That's good that you acknowledge that and you didn't like try to cap.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm being candid, I'm being honest about it. I mean, you know, I feel like my week does entail stress sometimes, you know, and in order for me to get that out, that's I use. Partying is like a mechanism for me to be able, to you know, release that tension.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think that's a great part of why I enjoy it so much and why, you know, I constantly dabble in it, because I'll constantly partake, rather because, because you know, life is hard, life is hard and you know, and not even you know, adding on the, I guess, the interpersonal elements, or, you know, just being a black man, you know that's tough too. So you know, we need outlets to release, we need outlets to, you know, have that catharsis and I think that it's like the balance of it, yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like a reward system you set up for yourself, where it's like I got through this week, I got to earn that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got through this week, because the work comes first. Yes, don't neglect the execution. That's something that I live by. You know, if my work is not done, I'm not partying. Okay, yeah, but you got your priorities and yes, yes, my priorities are in check and yeah, I mean, I'm really just trying to figure out, like, what it'll take for the party scene to get better, because I feel like right now it's in a state of distress. Yes, like you know, on Instagram, we go on Instagram, we go on Tiktok, we see all those parties and we like, wow, like these look so fun, like you've seen the stoop parties that were going viral this summer?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 3:Like the outside, like like by Dumbo area where they had the brownstones. Those are going viral.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not savvy on that.
Speaker 3:You probably. I know you've seen it.
Speaker 1:I know for a fact, you've seen it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like like block parties outside block parties in Brooklyn. You seen those going viral.
Speaker 1:So I've seen like Tompkins, Tompkins block party. Okay, that's like a huge one.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh, I think we're talking about the same thing. Yeah, those be lit. I think those are fun. I've never been there, but they make it look so lit on.
Speaker 1:Instagram. Yeah, I mean, there's like this dissonance between reality and the perception that is getting off on social media and in some ways, that can be misleading.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:Oftentimes I feel like the lines are being blurry between who's having fun and who's just capping. You know, I feel like if you genuinely having fun, you don't have time to be on Instagram, you don't have time to be on TikTok.
Speaker 3:He preaching right now? No, for real.
Speaker 1:You got you in the zone, you in you vibe it out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember my freshman year of college, right, I had dropped my phone off the bunk bed and it stopped working for like a month and I didn't have my phone and I swear that was like the one of the most fun months I ever had in my life.
Speaker 3:Because you're detached, yeah, I was just living in the moment and it would be so awkward. Sometimes I felt like a fish out of water because, like, everybody around me were on their phones and it'll be like, oh, you going to this flex tonight, like you going to this party tonight. And I'll be like, yeah, of course. Like I don't got nothing to better do I don't got my phone, of course I'm going, yeah, yeah. And then they'll be on their phones on Snapchat seeing if the party was lit enough to go yeah, and then we'll all be in a circle for like a good hour or two, like constantly Dictate if we're going to this party or not, and I'm just like I don't have my phone. So I'm just like I'm just analyzing everything from like a kind of like a higher, yeah, like a higher perspective I'm like yo, like you elevated, these phones are really trapping us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because, like, if we didn't have the phones we would have went. But everybody's here like, oh, is it lit yet? Is it lit yet. Is it lit yet? Oh my God, like I don't want to go to it if it's not lit, you know also, what's the definition of lit?
Speaker 1:Because I feel like everybody got like a different, a different definition. Lit is just fun, that's true.
Speaker 3:That's true, and then fun is like your own like like, everybody got a different criteria for what they do Exactly, exactly, a lit party, exactly, you know, like a lit situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1:For me, I would define lit is. You know, the vibes are flowing, people are dancing, people are dancing.
Speaker 3:People are dancing, that's number one People are dancing one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's number one.
Speaker 3:People are dancing with each other. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Dancing with each other. It's a lit party, yeah, yeah, and we need to bring that back. We need to normalize dancing with each other.
Speaker 3:It's not corny, it's not a lame, it's a natural.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's very natural. Yes, it's very natural. And you know, like our predecessors, like the people that came before us with they, you know that's, they were able to like really, really have a good time when they said they was going out. They was going out. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:They were going all out and they had to spend a lot of money for it, like I remember, I was talking to my mom about it.
Speaker 1:She was like she used to be spending like five hours to get into a party and partied a whole night till 6am and then come home when the sun is rising. I'm like yo, we don't do that, no more yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like we at max we ended at four and then, you know, sometimes there'll be a little bit of a let out, depending on what the vibe is, Mm, hmm, and a lot of parties feel like networking events nowadays, Like they and it's kind of like masked under this, this like guys of of a party, but it's really like a networking type of situation Interesting. I feel like there's a distinct. There should be a distinction between a networking event and a party.
Speaker 3:But now I feel, like sometimes there's overlap, mm, hmm, so I don't know, damn, I feel like I'm a dude for thought because I keep going back to social media, because it's like there's a thin line now between social media and reality and the line is just getting thinner and thinner by the day. And that comes back to like that whole mindset of like clout chasing. Like I'm not saying networking is clout chasing, but in a way it is. It's kind of like acceptable clout chasing, yeah, yeah. So I think I'm trying to say I'm trying to say no, I'm joking.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying like for the social butterflies, this don't apply to you, but sometimes people intentionally go out to party just to try to get themselves a name and I think that does come from the social media mindset.
Speaker 1:No, I definitely agree. I think everything we do is kind of not everything, but a lot of what we do is like tailored to, I guess, amplifying our social media amplifying our virtual, our avatar. Yeah, our avatar, our virtual existence.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:You know everything, or not everything, but a good portion of what we do nowadays like you know, that's
Speaker 1:at the forefront of our minds, okay, at the end of the day, but you know, let's get back to like really actually just enjoying ourselves at parties, like women, like I feel like y'all don't have no reason to be self-conscious. You know, I think gentlemen going to gentlemen, I think gentlemen need to learn how to properly approach women so we could really get back to like that abundance of genuine fun. That was a thing at one point, yeah.
Speaker 3:Genuine fun, Not curated fun to look a certain way or you're like ah, ah, ah, and then the camera cut and you back to doing nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like nah, we not, we not doing that, no more.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so corny yeah.
Speaker 1:Damn, we covered a lot of ground for real, for real.
Speaker 3:We did, we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay. I want to talk about like being okay. Do you think that people can be aware of themselves and conscious and still be like a party head? Because there is a negative connotation that I see that is highlighted a lot in the party scene, where it's like, okay if you party every day, like you don't love yourself, or like if you party every weekend you're kind of like, yeah, every day is OD, every day is different. If you party like frequently, there's a negative connotation where it's like, okay, you're lost, you don't really know yourself, you're just trying to escape or whatever. Do you think you can be conscious and still be like a party person?
Speaker 1:I very much believe. So I think that that is a peer misconception. Mm-hmm, you know you can. It's like the concept of like can you chew gum and walk at the same time? Okay, like you can, you can, and there's people out here doing that. I mean, everybody has particular preferences, everyone has particular interests.
Speaker 3:We shouldn't be yucking anybody's yum at the end of the day, just don't judge people. That's what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't I never heard that.
Speaker 3:Say that again.
Speaker 1:Don't yuck my yum, yuck my yum. Don't yuck my yum and don't judge me because You're gonna be yucking anybody yum. You know, if you like chicken, like who am I to say, ew?
Speaker 3:Yeah, why you like that Okay?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like no, that's not my place, mm-hmm, you know, I think there's like a lot of like judging people now too. Yeah, like within the party setting. Yeah, like, nah, we don't need to be doing that. Like they came out just to have a good time. I think people be taking themselves too seriously too. That's it.
Speaker 3:That's really what it is. Yeah, that really that's exactly what it is, because, like now, like a little dance is like you look that as you're not masculine, yeah, like, come on. Yeah, like that's, you're sassy, like what the hell? Shaking your hips is sassy. No, they're having fun, they're having a genuinely good time. Why are you so upset?
Speaker 1:And that goes back to like the whole insecurity thing. I think we keep going back to the social media shit, but it's so true.
Speaker 3:That's how true it is.
Speaker 1:That's why yeah, I feel like it's so much insecurity that just lingers and you know, I don't, I don't. I feel like the insecurity kind of informs how people operate in the party setting and it's like the people who aren't insecure or the people who are actually having fun.
Speaker 1:Yes, ooh, you know but, then there's so many people who are insecure, who want to play judge and jury to everyone else who's actually having a good time. If you got enough time to be talking about, oh, why are you dancing? Why are you doing that, Yo? I?
Speaker 3:never thought of this?
Speaker 1:Why, like, why like, why are you looking at me? I never thought of this, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like we supposed to be having a good time. Like what's your name? I never thought of this. The most insecure people are the ones that are judging the people who are not insecure at parties. Yep, wow, it's so true.
Speaker 1:Don't allow my confidence to offend your insecurities. If I enjoy, if this is what I enjoy doing, if you know, like, like that's it and that's all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if that makes your soul happy. Why is that bothering your soul so much? You need to check yourself. You're projecting. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:People. If they can't do something, they always. Those are the people that want to bring you down, because the thing is, when people is up, those are like when you genuinely up, you want to see other people win too.
Speaker 3:Yes, it makes me cheese. I'm so happy when I see it, when you genuinely up. Yeah, I'm just smiling air to air.
Speaker 1:You should be able to root for your friend. You should be able to like the moment your friend is not rooting for you, that's not your friend. Like point blank. In every circumstance Yep, In every circumstance. And I actually have a personal anecdote. This year has been like super transformative for me in terms of like life and career.
Speaker 3:I love that.
Speaker 1:The rooms I'm in today. I wasn't in last year.
Speaker 3:You got pictures with Troy Millings.
Speaker 1:Troy Millings. No, it was Rashad. Oh Rashad, rashad, balau, balau, my foot Shout out to EYL too.
Speaker 3:Yo he got? I see him. You got Pusha T. You interviewed Pusha T.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I did interview Pusha T. Shout out to Push. That's crazy he was. Thank you, thank you, he was a very humble guy.
Speaker 3:Wow, oh my God, you're living life right now.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I was fangirling a little bit Before the interview started. I was like I got to just tell you like I love your catalog, like. I was going crazy, but.
Speaker 3:As you should, what the hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's one of my favorite rappers of all time. Wow, damn. You know like life has just changed and you know one thing that people don't tell you about success I'm realizing is that you know we all desire to attain success but, nobody tells you that, okay, you're going to get this success, but now you're about to lose your best friends. I mean one major milestone I had this year I interviewed Tank. Oh damn, this year, yep, yep, I interviewed.
Speaker 3:Nah, you're lit Thanks thanks.
Speaker 1:I interviewed Tank and one of my boys. Well, one of my former boys was like a photographer in LA and you know he wanted to do like the BTS stuff for me and then I had another boy. He was there. They were trying to like establish this like media conglomerate type thing and you know, for that particular opportunity I just didn't feel inclined to work with them. And it's not no harm or no foul, or I'm looking down on you or I feel like you're incompetent and can't get it done, anything like that. It was more so. This is my operation, so I'm the CEO in charge of this and I'm going to do what I feel like is right.
Speaker 1:I'm going to follow my intuition. You know, my intuition was telling me to move a different way. And that's not to say that I don't love and cherish and respect what we've been able to build, but I have to do what's best for me at the end of the day. We do what's best for ourselves at the end of the day because as humans, we are people who are. We have our self-driven agendas the survival of the fittest, survival of the fittest, survival of the fittest. And that's not to say that we couldn't have worked in the future but for this particular opportunity. It just didn't work for me. But after I did that interview, homeboys was tight. They was like yo, how could you do this? How did you not include us on this? It was like a gross sense of entitlement and I'm like wait, but this is my W.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where is my?
Speaker 1:congrats. Yeah, you're supposed to be my boy. You're not supposed to be talking about where's my piece of the pie. Those are the people you got to stay away from, and it really hurt because these are people that I invested years into my life. Yeah, I was close to these people and my siblings, and then that situation happened and it kind of messed up the glory of the moment. For real, when I have these interviews, I'm supposed to be hype. I'm supposed to be an achievement. I'm supposed to be an accomplishment that I'm supposed to then be able to celebrate. But nah, I wasn't even able to celebrate that win.
Speaker 3:Damn Because.
Speaker 1:I hate that for you, man, because they was hating they was on some real emotion.
Speaker 3:And it's crazy, because it's not like you weren't adding value to them in different ways.
Speaker 1:No, those are my boys. Those are my boys and I would do anything for them.
Speaker 3:But they can't see that the value added to them in a different type of way, even if it's an inspirational kind of thing, is diluted because of their perspective.
Speaker 1:I agree. And also another thing Everything was all good when we were on the same level, right. But the moment you feel like I'm getting ahead, or I'm making certain strides on certain opportunities, or being bestowed upon me that they're not necessarily receiving, then it's a problem, and that's the crabs in the barrel mentality you were talking about. Yes, we not doing that.
Speaker 3:You could do good, you could do great, but just don't do better than me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you do better than me, it's a problem. Yeah, and I feel like this is something that needs to be spoken about. I feel like oftentimes, we don't talk about these concepts. It's a real life. Yeah, this is real life. It's fucked up, man, and I feel like anybody who's striving to achieve greater than is going to have to deal with this.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, if you strive to achieve it.
Speaker 1:There's one thing to strive and achieve it, but if you actually get there, it's like wow, he really did that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nobody talks about the life when you get it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Nobody talks about the discipline you'll need, the wisdom you'll need to navigate that world.
Speaker 1:Yep, the discernment. Yep, who should I work with? Who should I not work with? Exactly, who has my best interests versus who doesn't? It gets real murky.
Speaker 3:Talk about InvestFest, because I know you is out there. Oh yeah, I was outside you know, I don't know what Afro Tech is. I want to look it up after this. But InvestFest talk about that. How was that?
Speaker 1:So InvestFest was. It was a three day festival in. Atlanta Georgia. It was about. It was a business conference primarily for the black community and there was a lot of heavy hitters in the building from Diddy. Yes, Diddy was there. Shout out to Diddy. Diddy actually earned your leisure a million dollars.
Speaker 3:What he gave them a million dollars when I was, you know, earning your leisure is sitting on this couch. Where it went when they recorded their podcast.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy. I knew that. But yeah, shout out to Earn your Leisure, shout out to them, shout out to Rashad Choy, all of them, you know. Ian, ian Fags, yeah, yeah, all of the homies that's really holding it down for the whole time. You know, shout out to them, but it was Wall.
Speaker 3:Street Trapper.
Speaker 1:Yes, Wall Street Trapper. Who else they had there? Steve Harvey, there they had Maverick Carter Bronze.
Speaker 3:Boy was there. I think they had Mayweather, did they?
Speaker 1:No, they didn't have Mayweather, they had Robert F Smith, the richest black man.
Speaker 3:Yep. A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, the richest black man in. America. And who else they had. They had a bunch of people there. They had a pagerie there.
Speaker 3:I think they had Jadaweta, if I'm not mistaken. No, they didn't have Jadaweta. They didn't have Jadaweta. I'm thinking of old episodes they had Terrence J was there.
Speaker 1:They had this one dude Humble.
Speaker 3:Oh, Humble the Poet.
Speaker 1:No Humble Lucanga.
Speaker 3:Humble Lucanga.
Speaker 1:I don't know that he's big in the business world, but they had a lot of heavy hitters. I was fortunate enough to secure a media all-access pass.
Speaker 3:Fire.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes. Shout out to Francois, the publicist, who actually hooked me up.
Speaker 3:Okay, shout out to you, Francois.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes. So a friend of mine had a BNB. I stayed out there for about a week or so and I secured a lot of connections, met a lot of wonderful, driven, motivated entrepreneurs and I just worked my magic. It was about 20,000 people there.
Speaker 3:Freak, that is crazy. You had all-access pass, all-access pass. That is different.
Speaker 1:So I took a lot of notes and just really was soaking up game from these people who are doing a lot of great stuff Shifting the culture, shifting the culture forward.
Speaker 3:Oh, what is? 19 keys there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, 19 keys with it. Shout out to 19 keys. He was preaching. Yes, he stayed preaching. He be preaching. He's different. Jacob Lattomo is there. They had VIP night. Shout out to VIP night. That was a vibe. Okay, they had JARU. Was there JARU? Oh, Shanti too. No, not a Shanti. I guess the Shanti wasn't in the budget.
Speaker 3:Oh damn it was a vibe, though it was a vibe.
Speaker 1:No, I could tell it was a vibe.
Speaker 3:I mean, I was like I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure it was a vibe.
Speaker 1:No, I could tell it was a vibe Like damn, there was a lot of heavy hitters, I met a lot of dope people and, you know, I was just honored to just even be in a space, like to be invited. Mm-hmm. You know, being a staff writer at Blavity has been such a transformative experience for me in a lot of different ways, like sometimes opportunities like you know, like, for example, I was able to cover the Governor's Ball, which is a three-day music festival, mm-hmm, and.
Speaker 3:They had Doja and Ice Spice there, you know. Nah, Doja wasn't there, doja wasn't there.
Speaker 1:Nah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3:She wasn't on the lineup.
Speaker 1:Nah, she wasn't.
Speaker 3:Oh, my fault, they had a.
Speaker 1:Wrong Governor's Ball. No, it was cool. They had Givvy on Aria Lennox, Okay.
Speaker 3:Ooh, Aria was there. Who Aria? I love Aria Lennox.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Aria was there. Aria was there. Okay, she was fire. I see red actually.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, it's random. I told you Ice Spice was there, you said no.
Speaker 1:No, you said somebody else just now.
Speaker 3:Oh, doja Cat, yeah, doja Cat, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I did say Doja, my bad.
Speaker 1:So shout out to you know, shout out to you know Blavity for the change in my life. Blavity has changed my life. I'm going to Coach and God next weekend.
Speaker 3:Oh yo, you're a lit son, yeah, Nah, this guy is outside, not in.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, so I'm not a very pretentious individual, but you know, I have to just talk about, you know, the blessings. Yes, this is amazing.
Speaker 3:I love this for you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. So I'll be a journalist Because, as a journalist.
Speaker 3:I'll let your boys, as a journalist like I really like, admire what you're doing right now, like this is exactly where I would envision myself being, and it's on some inspirational timing, not no jealous timing, like you're really, and I saw you know you was doing your thing too and I was like I'm trying. I have to tap in.
Speaker 1:I'm trying, you know, like mind over matter is really like doing, is a movement, is making waves. And I'm trying to make the best of my 24 hours, you know nah, I feel you and you know, um, you know I'm sorry about what your friend was saying, about you not making this investment because, newsflags you're going to regret it. So you know that's. That's all I got to say on that.
Speaker 3:I think environment is everything. Like doing this in my room compared to doing it here is a whole different, so different atmosphere. Yeah, you know, I want to set the tone for my future. I want this to be natural to me. I don't want this to be foreign to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:This has to be like an everyday to me. I want to live into my. I want to live right now like as my future self. You know, yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah. So this is work to me. This will be my future job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is intrinsic. This is intrinsic to your day to day. Exactly One day, I mean, I'm sure what we already 70 plus episodes in, right yeah?
Speaker 3:facts, so this already supernatural.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, like this is already like very organic.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, being in this environment, sitting on this couch, talking to people Real comfy, yeah, it's a vibe, but um, yeah, I'm, I'm. I'm honored that I inspire you in a positive way.
Speaker 3:No, for real. Like I told you all for rip, Once I seen your Instagram, I'm like nah, I have to DM this guy.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. So what's the thing that you're doing?
Speaker 3:You're doing your thing. Like journalism is not easy.
Speaker 1:It's not easy. It's not easy. I write two to four articles a day About each other, um matters of entertainment, culture and music, um, and two to four Damn.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, so I wasn't even doing that in college.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be cranking them joints out and then you know interviews as well, Like a lot of like dope interviews and the works. I can't really speak too much on what's going on, but I'm NDAs who I been.
Speaker 3:The NDAs. Oh no, you're not at that level.
Speaker 1:You know, the first Montana level, first Montana talking about you got to sign it, and the eight again next to me. I know we've been, we've been talking it up. Yeah, we, we covered like a substantial amount of ground.
Speaker 3:No, for sure, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1:So. So what's the so I guess to to finalize it, what's the verdict on this whole party and thing Like, um, what? What are our final thoughts? I'm just improving.
Speaker 3:My final thoughts on the partying scene is to have fun, dance Even if you can't dance, but to move like throw that ass back for real because, like you only live once, you're not going to have that ass forever. Throw it back on a real nigga. That's a. What's your final thoughts?
Speaker 1:My final thoughts are you know, let your inhibitions free. Let your inhibitions free and you know, go to a party and you know, maximize it and you know, do what was intended, which is to actually have a good time. Like, don't just be capping for the gram, don't be capping for the social media stuff, don't be so performative. Yeah, like, live in a moment and be a human. Be a human, not a little body.
Speaker 3:Stop judging Stop judging. You're not God Mind your business.
Speaker 1:Mind your business and yeah, we're going to keep that on now.
Speaker 3:All right, and he said what he said, all right, and I need you to tell a friend to tell a friend, to tell a friend.
Speaker 1:Mother, that is mind over matter, baby, yes indeed, yes indeed, let's get it All right, thank you.