In this week's episode, I'm joined by Ty Benzo designer of the Mater Piece clothing brand. , an entrepreneur who has not only carved his own path to success but has also cultivated a strong brotherhood with his fraternity Delta Omega Epsilon around him to help support his journey. Ty is about to celebrate his five-year anniversary, and this event is not just a celebration of his business milestones, but a heartfelt tribute to those who have stood by him through thick and thin.
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In this week's episode, I'm joined by Ty Benzo designer of the Mater Piece clothing brand. , an entrepreneur who has not only carved his own path to success but has also cultivated a strong brotherhood with his fraternity Delta Omega Epsilon around him to help support his journey. Ty is about to celebrate his five-year anniversary, and this event is not just a celebration of his business milestones, but a heartfelt tribute to those who have stood by him through thick and thin.
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That's why I always say this too right you can't find peace until you master it 100%. You feel me.
Speaker 2:What does that even mean? I break that down right there.
Speaker 1:Basically, once you find your emotion, once you find what you're doing, once you find that, yes, take that shit. And you found that shit, you understand, and now ride that shit out. And nobody could take that shit from you. You know why? Because you did so many things in this world where it didn't work out for you. You found that one thing Take that shit and ride it. You're at peace now. You understand. You're at the play where now you can take this shit and go from zero to a fucking hundred or a thousand million. A thousand million, you understand. A billion, you go all the way up because you found that shit and nobody could take that shit away from you at all.
Speaker 1:Nobody would tell you that shit is wack. All that design is mad wack, all that shit is mad wack. I don't care what you say, you know why? Because somebody over there thinks it's cool. Yeah, somebody over there thinks it's cool. They pay me money for it. They think it's cool. So I don't care what you think. You understand. And on top of that as well is you can't think your friends are going to help you as well. You understand that. You understand yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, welcome to Mind Over Matter. Baby, I'm your host, stasia Wallace, and this is your first time joining me. Welcome. If this is not your first time joining me, welcome back. I appreciate you. Shout out to you, you real, you loyal. Shout out to you, I appreciate you. Like, you came back for another episode. Oh my God, I'm so excited. I'm jagged out. So on today's episode, episode big 75, I have a very special guest in the building with me. I have the lovely, the lovely. This is your cue to say your name, ty Benzo, ty Benzo, in the building. Master, your peace. Mr Masterpiece himself. Definitely, on today's episode we're going to talk about college, because we met in college. Right, that's right. Definitely we're going to talk about your college experience. We're going to talk about your clothing brand, masterpiece. We're going to talk about just how you made your business poppin.
Speaker 1:There you go. I like that.
Speaker 2:Just the origins of how you even made it to this level. Okay, so kick back, relax and enjoy this episode. All right, so boom, delhi. Yes, that's where you did you start Masterpiece in Delhi. Or was this something before you started your college experience?
Speaker 1:Before we get started, I do want to definitely thank you for having me on your platform.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, thank you for joining me. I'll be jumping right into it.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me on the platform. I feel like your platform is very influential. It speaks value and volume for me. Vvs, I like that. So, Delhi, thank you for having me here. And yeah, it's Delhi. I definitely started in Delhi. I started in 2000 and I want to say 18.
Speaker 2:Okay 19,.
Speaker 1:I got a kick in 2000 and like so that was your.
Speaker 2:what year in college, that was my let's say my sophomore year.
Speaker 1:Sophomore, born in junior Sophomore, definitely going into junior year, and it was just it was. It was. It was a time Like I'm not going to lie, it was a time because I say this, because it's just like, it was just so, like it was crazy, like I literally like wore headbands only because, like I didn't want people, like I didn't want no barber up there or anybody else touching my hairline. You know, you know you up there, you know I, I pretty sure you know you're actually here today.
Speaker 2:I already know the struggle.
Speaker 1:You know. So it's just like I don't worry about anybody touching that person. Mess it up, then I'm like crazy. Yeah, I was like nah, so let me start wearing. You know, put a headband on. So I used to go to beauty, the beauty supply stores, and I used to just buy them, like you know, dollar regular, you know, like the little gray ones or I stayed the way.
Speaker 1:Silk one. Yeah, I stayed away from like the colors, you know, because the black blah, blah. So I stayed away from that, but I still, you know I mean it happened after that. One day I was just like yo, like what if I put my name on this? You know what I mean. Let me put buns on and see how this is, what kind of vibe is given, and let's see what's going on. And I did that and now I'm making different flavors. Now I'm like I matched up with the outfit. I got that one that matched with the outfit, getting drippy with it.
Speaker 2:Nah, it's crazy because, like, I feel like in that school there were so many entrepreneurs. It was crazy For real. We had the girls doing their hair in the dorm rooms. You had people just doing random stuff, doing nails. Sometimes I'll come in I see my roommate getting her nails done like a full on spa. I'm like what's going?
Speaker 1:on Cooking Yo, I always hit up like shout out to tip. That's how to tip. Tip is one of my favorites out there. So now you're on someone like I tell people all the time a lot, of, a lot of great people that in this world right now, as look at you know I'm trying.
Speaker 1:For me, a lot of greats came from Delha. Like a lot, a lot of greats Like people didn't even know about, like not able to go how, like people didn't even know how to Tom, like how a boogie manager. It's from Delha, you know what I'm saying. Oh, wow, qps from Delha, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:And he used to bring. He used to bring a boogie up there to show. Yeah, I remember a boogie was the.
Speaker 2:He was there for the spring fling the semester before I got there. I think I was 2017. So far, I'm like damn, I just missed him. And then we got who T pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had two pain. I was like why?
Speaker 2:would y'all do that? And then he called out y'all, corny, that I was the worst one.
Speaker 1:But not definitely a lot of ghosts came from Delha, you know.
Speaker 2:I feel like a bunch of kids from the city or the towns didn't want to, who wanted to like go away, but they still wanted to feel like they were at home. Go upstate. That's a fact. That's my reason. Yeah, that's, that was me too, like I had a whole scholarship to stay in the city and I did not want to. I had to fight to go away.
Speaker 2:Like you don't understand the. I really had to fight to go away for school. They did not trust me. My parents did not trust me to go away, but I'm like, please, and I really I'm grateful. I went to Delha my freshman year. That was probably one of the best years of my life. It was lit 2018. 2018. I came in 2018.
Speaker 1:That's the time you was getting right. I was litified. Now it was getting right.
Speaker 2:It was getting right back then yeah, and I don't know. I feel like freshman year was my best year. Was it for you too?
Speaker 1:Um. Freshman year for me was a little crazy. I came in 2016. So it was, it was. It was like my first ever party. It was a big brawl, like the whole campus was just like flooded, fights happening, people getting knocked out over there. It was crazy. Basically, people get sprayed with me, so it was lit. I was like I was at home. I was like you over the town.
Speaker 2:I was like what's up? No, it's cool. No, it's so confusing because, like, the scenery makes it feel like, oh, I'm away, like I'm really exactly out of the city, and then it's the same shit, exactly, it's like the same trenches. They don't change your mentality. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1:But I definitely had a good time my freshman year. It was cool. I didn't do much, I was just flowing around and seeing what I like, seeing the vibes and energy filling out the campus. You know, because you know it's it be a lot. Sometimes you wait by yourself and wait from home. Luckily, my roommate was somebody I went to middle school with. We didn't go to high school together, we reconnected and we got to college.
Speaker 2:You see how weird life is? Yes, you know, my neighbor went to high school with me. Wow, I was like, randomly, I forget out my neighbor. I'm like yo, what the hell? Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Matt, the world is weird. Like the people you meet. I feel like sometimes it's been like is there a reason why you meet them, even if it's?
Speaker 1:a lesson learned or a lesson learned. Either way it's a win-win, even though it's probably like an L you buy a total type of person, no more, but you learn from someone that person you know. So you do learn what the the lose knots when you do it again you know. So I always say like you know. Sometimes you meet people was like is there a reason why you met that person Like you know and you got to figure that out? Whatever it is, you know, bad or good, it's still a lesson learned and I'm like okay, cool, I'm telling people I'm good off. I got to focus on type of people Like you know. It was on my kind of you know stage Exactly.
Speaker 2:And it's funny because, like, I went to college with one of my closest friends from high school and I'm thinking we're going to be like this we're going to be tight, we're going to do everything together, we're going to get our nails done, we're going to go out, we're going to meet boys, we're going to go to this frat party. Nope, like we fell off so crazy. It doesn't even make sense and it's like cause you break, it make you. Yeah, that's a fact. And it's funny how life works because, like my whole college experience, I didn't even talk to her like that.
Speaker 1:No, that's crazy. You know it's crazy. I don't think about the other girls hanging out with it, it's not even her. That's crazy. Which one?
Speaker 2:Um, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that wasn't, her.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's how I was like maybe.
Speaker 2:No, that wasn't her, that was somebody else. And then my roommate she lived in Canarsie, where I'm from, and I'm like yo, this girl is too small. Yeah, too many coincidences.
Speaker 1:Definitely that's crazy. I don't even know how I ended up going to college with my roommate. Him being my roommate was crazy. I was like this is, this is my middle school friend. Like this is crazy. I said best, though, cause I didn't have nothing to like know where this is going on. I didn't have no, just like there's no craziness. I could trust him. Yeah, I could leave the room and have my stuff. I'll come back and my stuff is still there, yeah, yeah, or like people used to wear stuff, but I never had that roommate, but it ended up working out for you, though 100%, like, 100%, like just the communication, the vibes, the way it was, like just the like, everything was just perfect, like nothing, like just did not make sense, like everything was vibe.
Speaker 1:It was vibe, it was good, like his mom, his mom, his mom, his mom. You know it was good vibes. It was the perfect experience I've had in my life. Not a lot.
Speaker 2:Perfect, like everything was so perfect out there, like everybody was just on timing. Nah, it was, it was late. If you know, you know, and that punch out.
Speaker 1:The whole is lit.
Speaker 2:That thing right there. That was lit Nah.
Speaker 1:It was a time yo.
Speaker 2:So you did kickstart your business during college and I love that for you, cause a lot of people they probably started their business or they started doing something like giving lineups and they just fell off. You know what I mean Facts, like they're really appreciating what they have, the gift they have. That's a fact. So I'm glad you knew your worth and value from the jump.
Speaker 1:Nah, definitely it's been a. It's been a. It's been a time like it's been. It's been ups and downs. It's just greatness. You know, and I'm happy that, like I started there, cause like I give so much love to that school and just so much, like just cause they helped me, you know like it was just like you help me, you know how much you helped me. But you definitely put me on the map. It's the point where I would go on different campuses and people like yo, like that's the headband guy, that's the.
Speaker 2:Now, you have motion, you have motion. I'm humble, I'm that humble, you know you have motion.
Speaker 1:I'm that humble Go shit Like I ain't going a lot, but I remember being humble about it. I ain't going a lot bro.
Speaker 2:So going into college, not even going in, like how did you even like fully make that experience yours, like really own that experience and make the best of it?
Speaker 1:Movies like just before we went to college watch it. All those like just 21 and jumping, yeah, yeah, even like throw it back to Disney Raven going to Georgetown how she did that kind of vlog. Just all these different movies and things we was putting our face. You know how it's gonna be musical, even though, yeah, it could still be a thing you know Exactly.
Speaker 2:it was over one and one. That's funny, we lived the same life. Those shows used to really make me wanna go away for school, and I just did it.
Speaker 1:I was like no, I'm out. Like I told my mama I think I'm ready, you know, I think I'm, you know I'm mature enough, I feel like I'm good and I could be out there, you know. And that's just how. That's how everything happened. You know, cause I went to school for I want to be a lawyer. That's my whole thing. Even now I still have I'm going to school, I might, I know I'm going to find my ass soon, you know, Okay, to be announced Big lawyer. So in the next new year I might go for my masters and just see how that rocks out. But yeah, I was in the front. To be a lawyer, that's my main. That's my main goal since I was like nine, 10 years old, like watching Lord of Order.
Speaker 2:What did you end up studying?
Speaker 1:I studied criminal justice. Oh okay, People think I got a business degree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have guessed business. That's the fact.
Speaker 1:People do. Nah, like just, I literally started just doing that because, like I felt like as a man in my father's dad, I was young I couldn't keep calling home from my mom like, hey, like you send me $10, you can turn it off, send $10. It just wasn't working for me, you know. And at the same time, you know, I was paying. I was still paying my mom phone about the time too, even in college. You know, oh, wow, so it's just like I still have responsibilities where I just I owe to her. You know what I'm trying to say. So I was like I need something that could jump me up. Let's see what I could do to sell something. That's going, you know, going.
Speaker 1:And then when people realized like I need to have, I need to have, and I realized people really was buying these, I'm like I ain't like let me get it happening, you know. So let's do something. You know, like I'm not making it to the business. Let me start doing things and getting people into this. You know just, they want the merch. I'm giving them the merch. Now I get the people they want. And that, basically, was just like helped me the most.
Speaker 2:Did it also help you keep stay focused.
Speaker 1:Definitely stay focused. Just when I say that, as in, like I was, I'm always in my school where, like anybody know me, I was in a party doing my homework. You understand, like I was focused, you understand. So I put my mind to something, I'm doing it, it's me, I'm doing it all the way.
Speaker 1:At the same time, my mom was going to school for her bachelor's, her master's you know what I'm trying to say. So, rick and Pam grades, you know not competition wise, but she's sending me like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you got all these A's, I'm gonna catch up. You know, like I got to do something to match your energy, you know. So it's just like that kept me motivated. Just her being in school, too, kept me like now, like I can't. I got to do this for something bigger than me. You know cause, look at her so many years later. She had plenty of jobs, but she still wanted to increase that, that minimum wage or whatever it was. You know, to increase that. No, I need the maximum. They going, I want to work there, I want the maximum. So, just over her energy, I was like, nah, like I, like her, my mom was a hustler, like I. Just, it's just her she's driving me.
Speaker 2:That's where you get it from. Yes, it's fun Like, just Like you help build at like what, 18, 19?
Speaker 1:Before that, you see, I was paying in 15. Wow, because I got to a point where I was tired of her taking my phone from punishment Now, once you go by me on your phone, and I was like this is my phone now, so you can't tell me what to do, no more. And then for her birthday came around Mullahs day one of the two came around cause they were both near each other. I bought her a phone for my line and from there it was like you know, I'm paying it, it's no, half you paying it. So I was like I got I hold it down. You know, you a real one, you a real one. So I just been, that's just something that I was just like you know, like you know. So fire.
Speaker 2:Is there any business tactics that you learn while at Delhi that you still use?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Definitely just my approach. I don't, like I said before, I'm humble, right, I can walk in a room. Somebody is in there like not something that I attend. I'm actually like am I somebody, Like, are you the manager?
Speaker 2:Like you know, like you know what's going on, Like I just look important.
Speaker 1:I just walk in a room. You know I never tell people what I do, like they just drawn to me, you know. So it's just like. With that being said, it's just like you know, like people, just you know, like I like to just answer to them. Okay, cool, then later my thing, later, this is my thing. My tactic is lay down a line. Yeah, I'm a designer. Oh, no, let me tap in. I rather this here to work. And you go to my Instagram page. You know it's professional work and not like BS. I'm taking it on, like you know, like this is real work. Like you know, I'm actually putting my time into this, money, into this. I'm getting these pictures done, shots of my boy, alan. I shoot with Alan on the time. It's the things that I'm doing on the time, you know. So you gotta have these professional lives, you know, so you gotta have the pictures. That's professional lives. You gotta have things that you know I'm showing people like it's the real deal and that's my tactic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're showing them the work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not bullshitting you. I'm showing you the work. I'm showing you, this is what I'm doing, this is how I get down. I love that. Yeah, this is the fire work about it. You know, like I'm showing you the outcomes, you know what I'm trying to say, like there's nothing that I can't say oh yeah, you're gonna get this and you get it. You know, breaking a whole, nah, we ain't doing that. I'm giving you that quality, that work Quality, you know. So that's my tactic. My tactic is to really show you better than tell you. That's my thing.
Speaker 2:Facts and it's funny, cause, like when I don't think we like formally met, it was probably like in passing and stuff or through my roommate, but like I always knew you as the fraternity guy, right, right, right, like that's all. I knew you as like the fraternity guy you through parties, you was lit, you had motion, like I never really formally, like I don't think we formally got introduced like that. Nah, it was never good. Yeah, it was always in like passing, definitely Like you was throwing a party or something. That's a fact and it's funny that you said that. Cause, like I always got that energy from you like you gave, like yeah, I'm the dawn and like, yeah, this is my shit.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy, though People say that and I feel like I give like, like just I give me. When I say that me, I mean, I feel like I give just like Ronin's like it. I'm not, I'm confident. You know what I'm trying to say, no matter what you might think, no matter what you heard, whatever you let's throw your head behind the doors, whatever like that To me, me, you don't know me, you get me, yeah, yeah. And what you know me, you know, is nothing but motion, nothing but opportunity, nothing but a bigger stage, so we could go together, like I'm not bonding, go together, but definitely, like we definitely met through just passing ways. You probably come over with your roommate, you know do, we do you know for me.
Speaker 1:So it was cool, like that's the fact. So I'm saying like just seeing, like even now, and then you started doing your podcasts and the audio vibes, and then from the audio vibes you went to the this.
Speaker 2:I'm just like nah, nah he, no he tapped it.
Speaker 1:I gotta. I gotta tap it, I gotta I gotta see what's going on.
Speaker 2:It's funny because, like, how do you? I don't know, because I always wondered how would it be to be like in a sorority or something. That was always something I always wondered about, but I never did it in Delhi because I wanted it to be like, strictly, I'm not racist. I swear.
Speaker 1:Not for you.
Speaker 2:But I wanted it to be like you know, like how they be like down south in.
Speaker 1:Atlanta like, like a D9, real black yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I wanted that vibe. I didn't want some like thing I never heard of. I definitely felt like that Because, like I was influenced by media, of course, definitely I watched a lot of BET and I seen that that's a fact, like that's a fact. So, all of that being said, I always kind of crave that like sisterhood. Why did you like even join the fraternity Delta, omega, epsilon? Why did you join your fraternity?
Speaker 1:So before I got there, my brother is a Kappa, okay, and just seeing him do, community service.
Speaker 2:What are his colors? Cause I'm better with color. They're burgundy, white and silver.
Speaker 1:Okay. So seeing him do community service, seeing him party, seeing him, like just the letters, the meaningful things about that, just how serious he took it as a man. Like just how like you know you, you know we do things and sometimes we don't take it serious, you know we just we be as serious bullshitting, and I feel like when I see now I was like nah, there's no more bullshit with him, like this is the real deal, like he's on his you know community service vibes and he, he going to LIU, so he living, you know he living in Crib, so he going from his crib over there hours, just get there and just be serious about certain things. Like you know we get early in the morning after he parties his party or not, like that's fine, I could do that, you know. And before we got there we searched up things. Like not gonna lie, there's no D-9s on your campus, but there's definitely there's a D-9 in Onianta, which is where you went to make you know.
Speaker 2:As you know? Yeah, I know Onianta.
Speaker 1:And. But I don't know if you want to keep going back and forth all day, like you know back every day. So you know. But I also heard a DOE and I looked at, I read it, I looked up on it. You know it was a good vibe. So I can't even tell how I was ready on my mind I already know I was on fraternities on my mind already over it. I seen them. It's about 30 signing on.
Speaker 2:This is something you always wanted to do, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's something I always wanted to do, okay, so fraternity life is just always something I wanted to do, because I feel like, like you said, bgt, stop it. Y'all hand in this this. You know you, I was like that's lit, yeah. And then you see in social media Instagram, everybody's showing they Greek vibes and start they, y'all who run the y'all. Like I don't want to do this, this is my vibe no-transcript. So when I got there, it was just like, nah, like they, the community service, and it's 30 sign of them. So you see them everywhere, you see them, dude, we everywhere. This, that, even though it's competition, you got other orgs on cables as well. I recognize and recognize and I have my options. You know what I'm trying to say. But at the same time, it's like, nah, nothing better than them. Like I gotta go to them.
Speaker 1:I would get invited to parties, which is, like I said, 30 sign of none of them. They don't need that many women at their parties. You know what I'm trying to say. I mean not women, whoa, ooh, none of them have men at their parties. Oh, okay, so they don't need no many men. There's man and brothers, bro. So it's just like we need all the women to come through. We don't need no. So I got a. I used to hang out with a certain amount of girls and it was just a go. But my roommate had friends too. He went to high school when I was all there, so it was like 10 of us. But they always told me and him like you ain't gonna lie, like you're not gonna get to some parties with 10 niggas, like that's not happening. It's no way that's happening.
Speaker 1:Like they not letting you win the spot with that many people. It's not happening. So we had to break all of them. You, my man, but those are all your man, you know what I'm trying to say. So you got to deal with that For me, like you might. At the day, if you need me, I'm here. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1:But when it comes to this time, like I'm out, I'm going to the party. So I used to go to the parties with them. They used to be strolling, dancing, going crazy. I'm like, oh nah, like what's what? The whoa, whoa, whoa? I was just mezzurized, like yo, like I gotta be, like not all the time, like I gotta be down, fanned out, but like just like I gotta be down with that, just off base of that, just clean service. It's just a motion that they had. They had motion. Everybody know they want to do that. Doe. Motion equals motion, simple as that, and I feel like that helped me so much. Like just just doing that I became.
Speaker 1:I looked at life. I looked at life in business different. Like I looked at life in business different. When I say that because I'm like you know, when you in positions of fraternity, you gotta really take it serious, like you gotta really be like. If you're that event coordinator, you gotta make sure you plan events. If you're the president, you gotta make sure you run the organization. You're the vice president, make sure you play a part. You know Everybody has a part. I think we don't see. We don't see that at all. We look at movies, you know.
Speaker 2:And I know we all take it serious when, like sometimes I would see people who are like even going to become like whatever they are, like whatever fraternities already they going into and like sometimes they wouldn't even speak to me and then it's like they trying to discipline themselves, doing certain things to even get into fraternity, like jogging around campus working out. I'm like nah, what's y'all on for real? Nah, it's different.
Speaker 1:It is. Basically, it helped me a lot, though I'm not gonna lie, my fraternity boosts my business up so much and I owe so much. I feel like I owe so much to them. And so it's so real, because right now I'm vice president of my whole organization. Oh wow, I'm gonna stand there. So I'm. I govern all the chapters, you know. Oh wow.
Speaker 1:Congratulations I appreciate that and it's just like, it's just a blessing. You know I get to give back now, you know. So y'all gave me so much popularity, so much. You know so much like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet it on me every time. It was no bag against me, you know what I'm saying. Like everybody ordered, everybody show love and it's just like that's my. This is my like, my charity, my community service to the world. You know. So, just doing that, I don't. You know I do so much stuff and I just I don't get paid for it. Now that I wanna get paid for it, which is like that's my. This is my time to do my justice.
Speaker 2:You know I'm glad you didn't get caught in the hype of it or two, cause you said like you seen it on social media and stuff and it looked cool and it was dancing, doing a thing. But I'm glad that you could see bigger than that, like this is bigger than you, like there is so much you can do with. Just having a community, having communion, having your brothers next to you supporting you, it's like. It's a beautiful feeling we have like a tribe. It's a fact, yeah, it's a fact, and y'all all like, have like, even if you're all doing different things, it's still aligned, cause y'all still know, at the end of the day, y'all here, to uplift each other, doing whatever you're doing, literally uplifting each other.
Speaker 1:And just back to the parties, which you were saying, how we do parties and we literally do parties with each other. You know what I'm trying to say. So I got they was doing it before I got there and I got to actually do it. So we, like I crossed everything. I'm an attorney, but you know, like not saying everybody get the opportunity, but you know, and when they see you, a certain type of person like you, not like I, could bring you in, you know, yeah, so now we getting money that way. So that was like we throwing parties in the castle. You been in the castle Castle, the castle. Did you go to the castle for the party?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it was like a good little drive out, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I remember that, cause a lot of people don't remember that.
Speaker 2:What it was like not aligned was crazy. First of all, it was more than one school there too. Yes, yes, always more than one school. I'm not gonna lie, I'm sorry, that was a good night, I'm not gonna lie. Always more than one line Outside of, like, the parties and the strolling and the just campus events. Are you guys doing anything like outside of the school?
Speaker 1:Yes, we do autism works. We do work for suicide darkness it's I gotta get the name of it correct but the suicide works. People that you know do that. Yeah, and it works for that breast cancer. So we give most of this community. We do alumni things. You know, it's bigger than just school and just different. We have to meet chapters. We are alumni brothers. We meet with them. We have a dinner coming up soon. Brothers are, you know, having babies now, making new life and families, you know. So, just like a two weeks ago went to another brother's baby shower. Oh well, tonight I'm going to our brother's dinner after this. Okay, so we locked in, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's just like that's the part for me that I love so much. It's just like I have people that I don't got told to every day, but just knowing that when a vibe comes it's late and it's just like we back in school again. Like the other day, I felt like we was just back, just back in Delha, chilling, having a good time. It gave those vibes. I was just like this is crazy. Like I was like yo, like and we all talk about, like we came in different generations, you know, like different times. Like I came, I'm a everybody I chill with, like older brothers, I'm probably the last one to come in, like come inside of Delha, you know.
Speaker 1:So they all was leaving by the time I was going through college. And just like just knowing that, you know, like just the reconnection and just like the connection is never lost is the best thing for me, like that's just the, that's the best part for me. That's what I wanted. You know, I got what I wanted out of it. I wanted the brotherhood, I wanted the love, I wanted the connections and the networking. I wanted all of that and I got everything I wanted out of it.
Speaker 2:Everything. And there's like a big negative stigma also that's attached with being like a frat Right Fraternity. Y'all airheads Definitely what y'all do with party drink, play, bear pong Definitely. But I feel like it's so much bigger than that and I could really see that because my brother was a part of fraternity, alpha by alpha, okay. So he really opened my eyes to just how strong brotherhood could be, cause, unfortunately, he had lost the brother a few weeks ago, okay. And to see, yes, to see how, like, everybody dropped what they're doing and Cali and his brother was buried in DC, so he didn't have the bread to come to DC like right away, right, right, right, but his brother is helping get to DC for the funeral, I'm like, damn, like you guys are really locked in and that's the best part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's literally the best part, and that's like the part where it's like it's no worse for that Cause. It's like it's unspoken words. You understand, I got God's trust in the thing, yeah, and that's the bond that you guys build when you guys end that chapter. And sometimes you got to be in the same chapter, cause I'm cool with people that not even see chapter as me, and we should both die that bond just cause we broke apart and it's same fraternity.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, brotherhood.
Speaker 1:Like you don't treat people different because you're from different place. We're in same levels on our chest, saturday and day, you know. So you, these letters, you, my brother, you know what I'm trying to say and that's just how it is. Like we just locked in, like we locked in, super locked in, like I made the best decision I could make. That would be real. I say that all the time. Like I made the best decision I was gonna make it ever. Because without that, without the stepping stones, without just them being there, I don't think I'll ever be this far where I'm at right now, 100%. That helped me a lot, super lot.
Speaker 2:I feel like the media really kind of dampens that image when it comes to fraternities. That's really what it is. No, you don't really see that side of it. When you watching movies about fraternities, you only see like, oh, them going through like the initiations and all those negative things attached with it that could kind of like turn people away from it. Personally, it made me hesitate to even like look into being a part of a sorority, even me.
Speaker 1:But I would say it's every process, what you make it. Yeah, that's true, and not everything you see is always true or not part of your culture that you're in and what was not for you is not what's not for you and on top of that, it's just like the stigma on it. They see that but they don't see, like the part where we actually we do a lot, like just that just means just all of the fraternity sororities around the country and the world period, just like these chapters that are people where we in and these communities that we in, like Delhaeux, whatever right, you see, we give parades, we give back, we give help to community. You know you need to show when those shine, we come in. You need to show you need to be snowed out because the snow is too heavy for you, you're old, you need help, we help you, you know.
Speaker 1:So that's the part that they don't see. They don't see the part that we help these communities build up to what they are. And that's the feeling for us too, like this feeling is just giving back to the community that we're in. Like you know I'm not from Delhaeux. You know I didn't have to go outside on cold days and after nights. I partied all night till five o'clock in the morning, still talking about snow in the morning and that snow was different.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie, that's snow Ridiculous. That made no sense. It was snowing like in May.
Speaker 1:Yo, crazy Ridiculous. Yo it was crazy. Out there it's water.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how do you feel like your brother has contributed to your vision, your brand Um.
Speaker 1:I feel like they contributed a lot to it. Um, I go to campuses, people that were not like that's the headband guy, that's Mr Mazepiece, and I feel like without I couldn't go to different campuses without them wearing it you know what I'm trying to say Like them jacking and them putting it on and showing them who they got it from, the creator, you know, and showing me and that's unspoken words, because they never say like, oh yeah, I put X, y, z, y, and when I go to places, people know who I am. It's just like not like, how do you know who I am? You know, I ain't chill, chill, chill, you know. It's just like they helped a lot, just even like coming to help my pop up shops, coming to help my fashion shows, even modeling for my fashion shows.
Speaker 1:One of my brothers is like my, you know, my assistant, my partner, you know, like Chow Tukai, and that relationship is that started before college, but we was in high school together. He joined my fraternity because he's seen what I was doing, the kind of like you know, things I was going through. He's like, nah, like I could be part of that movement and just be bringing him on to the masterpiece life and just that kind of vibe, like him being there. It's just like you need somebody that you locked in with and I feel like without like you know the brotherhood and everything I added onto it, I could not show him be as strong as it is. You know what I'm trying to say, so it's just like it's just it's stronger than what it is Exactly, and it's it's. It's amazing, like I just feel like my brother's, my brother's amazing, but I feel like my brother's even being here right now. Like you know, they hit the one more, one more hits to work right now. Who are you? So it's just like they here, bro.
Speaker 2:That's a different type of love. Like you don't even count the favors at that point. It's just like nah it's so locked in, you don't even need to talk about it, it's just.
Speaker 1:it is what it is bro, you need it, I got you. You need that, I got you, I got you back, I got you back. It's like for me it is what it is, bro, cause I didn't date. Like you know, you're my brother, like I said, you know, and.
Speaker 2:You think you could find that outside of a fraternity or sorority asking for me because, like right now, I'm in a transitional period where I'm feeling, where I feel like I've seen a lot of people move funny and I just don't want to accept it anymore. You know what I mean. So I'm in like this phase where I'm like I need to find my tribe, my people. What's with the knee slap? What's?
Speaker 1:with the knee slap bro, that's the other part to it. Like, ah, you hit it, you hit it right at the nail. Like it's just like I'm be honest, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm be honest. I want to say, if you do amen, like, bless you, cause it's hard OD Hard. Like people nowadays is like you said, they don't count them right. People nowadays count babies, they count everything. And so wishy washy, wishy washy Sometime you're going to do for them. But you can't read, they can't, you can't have that Yo.
Speaker 2:I had a friend. I always bring this up because it still hurts. I bring this up all the time. All the time I had a friend cause I had PTSD till this day because of it. I probably need some therapy on this. I had a friend look me in the eye and say I'm jealous of you because of your podcast, jealous, like. And I had the feeling, but to say that in my face is not crazy, that's crazy. So now I'm like now, sometimes when I meet new people, I'm like damn, are they going to be jealous of me? Like, hide certain things.
Speaker 1:That's when you understand that you have to find a circle of people that are winning. You understand.
Speaker 2:And that's hard.
Speaker 1:No, it's hard, but it's out there, like it's definitely out there, like what I tell you is out there is out there, you know. You know you got sometimes you have to put yourself out there more, but you're going to have a limit, you understand. You understand the limit to a certain thing, like when you feel something it's like I'm out of here but you can not turn to try it. And I understand how you feel about that friend, because I have a friend like that too, like, and this is the perfect time I don't know if I'm not going to talk too much on it, but a lot of people probably action and want to see it, so this is the perfect time to talk about it. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:Okay, talk about it, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1:I have a friend who was just like that, Like I had somebody on the masterpiece team with me other than me and Khad, another person, and it was the same way Like we got into one little situation and it just went down like craze, Like whoa, like whoa. I was like nah, no, I know it's the same.
Speaker 1:You're my brother, like besides the lettuce, anything, just anything in general. Like you're my, like you, like you say, out of the situation, you're my brother, before and after. You know what I'm trying to say. Whatever we do, whatever happens happens. You understand, take it to the grave. I never count anything. I do for you. You should never count anything. I do for you. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:And he did that and it's like that moment, was it like? Did you feel like it was an opportunity for them to do that? Cause I feel like that person was plotting to have the excuse to do that.
Speaker 1:It's so crazy cause I felt the same way. You know why I felt the same way? Because you're bringing up shit that happened years ago, you understand. So you bring up shit that happened years ago. Some time ago you been out and shit on you been pushing on the list Exactly. So now, when I was like, oh, now it's late, now, now I can put it out there, you just throwing shit out and it's like whoa.
Speaker 1:That's how you really feel this was an issue. Yeah, you say the issue, you tell me the issue. You tell me the issue. We don't got a ticket to the media, which people did so corny, and you know what I do, that you know. You gotta put things out there, you from me, to make me look crazy. You understand, or tell people situations where it's just like nah, like I'm not the crazy one. You understand Like things were said, you know like it is what it is, but at the same time, it's just like you waited for opportunity for things to go bad to say everything out and you could have checked me.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with being checked. I take great Christian criticism, great Christian criticism. You don't like this, or I do something Okay bad. I could change this up. You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people don't understand that. People think that or not. Like they don't tell me anything and wait till I admit it to blow up, and I want you blow up. I don't have no sympathy for you, you understand. Yeah, yeah, I don't do things that you understand that I would never do to you and I don't like that. I hate people. Do things to you, do things to me that I never do to you. It's all love over here, it'd be so messed up.
Speaker 2:It's like yo, I have a pure heart. I can't even think like that, Like my brain isn't even wired to hate on you the way you just hate it on me.
Speaker 1:For real, it's crazy. I'm like a lot. I can't believe she told you that. She told you that, yeah, that's crazy, yeah it is crazy, I'm not gonna lie, but it's as if you out there on my deathly flag. You should know. You know, hang out. You don't go to an event. So it's just like Instagram too. You see the other people doing you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's mainly how I've been finding slowly, people who are on the same level as me is through social media. But I don't really like that. I'd rather be in person with the whole vibe, because I need to see you, the energy and everything in person.
Speaker 1:It's hard. For me though it's really hard. People might say, oh yeah, you miss a Benzo, but nobody really know me for me. I don't keep it to her. Yeah, I keep you know people around shit late. You know I make shit late, you know it's cool, but to really hang out with me and know me, like it takes a certain person for that. I just don't hang out with anybody Like, yeah, you might see me in the club or see me in the spa or see me at the event with somebody or people, but personal chilling, like driving in my car or going somewhere chilling with Nah, not gonna see that.
Speaker 2:Like answering the FaceTime calls yeah For me like it's a privilege to really get that into me Now.
Speaker 1:I feel like that now it's just closed, you know like now it's just for, like it's so no new friends for you. I'm no new friends for me right now. Why, nah, just everybody, just.
Speaker 2:You like your lineup, like who you got right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm cool, I got for me. God's showing me the real ones and I'm happy for that for me. Love that for you. I'm just, I'm good on that. Anybody new coming around, I'm looking at you with a third eye like keep it pushing game, like I don't got time. I don't. It's crazy, even when women like it's crazy, like I'm looking at everybody, like just yeah, wasting my time Real shit, though, like time is not.
Speaker 2:Even time is money, but time is precious you understand and do you think that is because these guys help you build and see you in like different stages of your evolution? Is that why you feel like that?
Speaker 1:Definitely. And I feel like people come around, for people are opportunists, yeah, and I feel like the opportunity to get to do something, they want to take it right away, you know. So I feed people along the spoon, like I try to keep everybody along the pedestal because I don't want everybody to be like, oh, now we're cool. And then we're cool because I hear people talk about oh, now, like you told me.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, he, I don't know why he told you that, because it's not that vibe over here For me and I keep it very like, I'm very upfront about it, like I'm not even going to say it now, like you, my nigga, you, my nigga. I'm going to tell you like, yeah, I'll fuck with son for me, but we ain't never kicking them, we never. I always tell people how that happens.
Speaker 2:Some people need to like accept the fact that they're associate and nothing more, nothing less. And they don't understand that I'm happy you said that, yeah, some people really be calling people like this is my bestie, this is my man, this is my homegirl, and then it's like you don't even know me, huh, like you don't even know me. That feeling is not mutual, bro.
Speaker 1:Nah, you don't even know me for a, for you can get that a lot.
Speaker 2:It's funny because, like this social media thing is scary too. It's like, especially when the birthdays roll around, I start to see it where. It's like oh hey bro, I don't know what he says and I'm just like yo, was it just? Did he just fall out? Yo, it don't make sense, it's not adding up. I don't understand yo 42. Not adding it's not adding up.
Speaker 1:Damn. Well, I bet it come around. Niggas know you need to pop it now. You don't, because I pop.
Speaker 2:So and that's how you, that's how you, that's when you see who your true friends are. Is that birthday, the birthday, the birthday really is like the test.
Speaker 1:For me it's the birthday. I'm not going to lie in my events, my meetings, yeah yeah, I say that too.
Speaker 1:That too. Yeah, I had a five year anniversary right this past, this summer, like if I had it my five year anniversary, yeah, five years, five years, three of them. No two of them had bands. Only the three is closed. I found my clothes, but and I just feel like whoever didn't come to that you can't be like you. Just I don't know how to tell you like real shit, because I like, when people come to meaningful things like you, make my birthday okay cool things happen yeah, life happens yeah.
Speaker 1:We are adults. Yeah, yeah, I'm perfect understanding. I don't want somebody to understand me like if I don't got it right now or if I'm not in the city, because I'm always somewhere.
Speaker 3:you know, so I'm not here not there Vegas, or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, For me I get that. But when it comes to things where I tell your mother I give you time, I put my friends three months in the head. So I give you three months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, three months is crazy.
Speaker 1:I give you three months to get it together. If you don't come for that, that disrespectful to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is. If it was you, it's different. Take it personal, I take it very personal, very personal.
Speaker 1:I'm not even going to be vocal about it. I'm not going to throw a switch me. I might want to tag people, but now I'm taking it to no. Like you text me. Some say that I ain't see it. I ain't see it. You cool me. Where you call me, say where, because I'm not answering my phone.
Speaker 2:I'm not accessible to you. Yeah, because it's funny, because, like I said, just when you have like a pure heart and good intentions, it's like if that was the other way around and they had an event, you're there, right, that's a fact. That's how I feel, like I'm there. That's the first in line.
Speaker 1:Definitely. A lot of people feel like my I'm an angry person. I might not know me, I'm cool, I'm chill. I show love, More love than I should be showing. I show more love than I show more. I just the type of person who is just like I do more for you. Do you do it for me ever? Because it's just like yeah, that's just how I am. You know, I was basically raised that way, but I'm good to do that to people. That's good people. You know what I'm trying to say. If I have a good aura, a good home I got a good background, like you know I gotta feel that I feel that over it, Like my vibe senses is on point. So if I don't feel that from you, I would never. But the moment I feel like, not like if I was in a situation and I called you for something, I know you would come, I got you 100%.
Speaker 2:You think if you keep like attracting certain type of friends around, certain type of people around like you're interested in, like, do you think, like if there aura is off, you think there's something you need to work on within yourself. Like, if you keep like, for instance, if you keep attracting like toxic females, you think there's something you need to work on within yourself.
Speaker 1:I do feel like it's saying that you should work on right when I say that work on is about a better taste, because clearly you're picking the same kind of females and sometimes I say this because sometimes you meet females and you don't get the right. Like you know, you get a vibe. You get a good vibe when you like, nah, this could be the one, and then time go pass, is like nah, like whoa, what I just do just now, I got myself in some shape, let me. Let me be backtracked. You know she tricked you, so it's like. Sometimes it's like. You know, sometimes you get tricked for life. If you really get like, you get tricked. If I go back to working on, like I Belay, how do I pull that out the hat? You know from jump. Sometimes you all give little tests. You all give little teaser tests. I'm not going to lie, it's not even a test on it real quick.
Speaker 2:How do you test to see if a female really will.
Speaker 1:I based on it, I'm not going to lie Me. I, based on my brain, 100% Okay when I say that, because if you're not, if you're not when I say access for something weird, but like, if you're not like interested in what I got going on, you would dub or friend, that's my test Cause I'm busy, 100% Like I'm doing certain things. I got to go here, go ahead, go over here. You know I'm busy. So if you're not intrigued about what I got going on is like nah, like it's not, you know that's a good test and it's just like certain things that you know I should.
Speaker 1:I say this all the time but people think I'm wrong for this. But if I have an event, I should have the value to my event. I'm be real, I told you I should have value to my faith. You should, you should, you should really be playing on coming and playing on site and shy against people.
Speaker 2:Cause that's more on your brain. Now you're like, I got to invite this extra person. You already know your sanction. Why are you acting like?
Speaker 1:so Exactly Like you, you sure you, sure you why you from like Diddy and Karisha going. You sure you why you should know the value you got to come in you walking in with you on my I'm on your hip.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, but the moment you're moving like that, you're not like that, and then it's like I'm good with you Cause I used to be more interested in me and I've done, I've done dub people for that reason, like, oh, you two focus on your brand, like this is something that this is what made me. Yeah, that's, nah, this is what made me. So how, how can I dub something that made me and focus on you, that you're not even interested in what I'm doing? Yeah, yeah, but you want to spend the money, though. You want your hair done, nails done, everything, yeah, but you, you ain't trying to, you ain't trying to help me outsourcing. You know, or support me at least, yeah, you feel me.
Speaker 2:But I feel like me personally to answer that question like I'm thinking about it. I feel like, once you like, elevate to a different level, certain people shouldn't even feel comfortable even bringing their energy around you. That's the fact.
Speaker 1:But people do feel comfortable with that. Like, I'm gonna give you an example real quick, so I chill out. I have an artist, shaz, and my son, superstar Rock, and he goes, he goes, he goes cool, my son, he goes cool, I ain't gonna lie His cousin and Chinese kid. We basically go out with them. We have a good time. We know I be outside, you know, and do certain things.
Speaker 1:And I was at a restaurant I was in Queens, I was even knowing in my crib. I was somewhere in the diner at four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning, and somebody I knew from Delha came through and saw me chillin' with who. I was chillin' with, you know, and yo, but over-exaggerated, like, oh my God, yo was good. I'm like what do you like? It was so, bro, it was so, so good, I don't know. But I put him to the side and I talk to him on the side. I'm like what's good, bro? Like are you feeling like? Feeling like I'm taking a picture with you? I'm like picture like you might like? You know me, yeah what.
Speaker 1:I ain't, I'm not feeling like we good, You're a big fan and that's the kind of vibe I just I don't like those kind of vibes. Like you know, I'm a person where I see anybody. I keep a calm, cool, collected, how you doing with something. I never take it overboard. I'm like, oh the bitches is bad value. Will they put me your? It's not my vibe. You know, like you're feeding the dudes, you're trying, you're trying to get in tune, but you don't even know what's going on and you gotta check your vibe.
Speaker 1:Like do you think your vibe can even come compared to chill with our vibe? Yeah, no, bro, like that'd be real. Like you gotta be honest with ourselves, you didn't try and say so. That vibe stuff. People gotta sometimes people, sometimes people have to be vibe checked. You gotta vibe check somebody. Like I ain't no vibe, that's a real thing. You gotta chill. You gotta bring it down just a little bit, cause I'm not even there. I'm chilling, I'm literally chilling. I just came from a club. I'm chilling, I'm trying to eat. We having a good time in conversations and laughter. I literally was doing that boom, loud ass voice. Come on, I'm doing it.
Speaker 2:Yo, what's up, Benzo? I'm like no, what the fuck it was. So that's crazy. People really have the audacity, the audacity, that shit is crazy.
Speaker 1:That's a crazy part, but I'm like the audacity is it be mom bothering me. Sometimes People have to mind the audacity to do certain things that ain't gonna lie Damn. That's crazy yo.
Speaker 2:Is there anything else you wanna get into?
Speaker 1:You wanna talk about? Nah that's I think that's about it Just to bring. Oh, hold on, see what A fashion show coming out. Okay, so I do a fashion show every year and I started a year after the new year, so I do always the 13th, the 14th, the 15th weekend, and it's my third year coming up.
Speaker 2:What month? January, January 13th 15th.
Speaker 1:The mistake, my God. We'll check that. I'll make sure. I let you know. Okay, and it's in Manhattan 38th Street. It's what you bought. I'm already excited for this year. I'm gonna throw the elevator every single year. My first year I just did it off the limb. You know I do events. I went that too. So I took a break for a while from doing events and then I came back into the game. I was like nah, let me do a fashion show. What's that about? Cause fashion week is, I feel like fashion week is not. I wouldn't say not for us black owned businesses, but it's not for us when I say that, you know.
Speaker 1:It's certain companies that have that and they, they provide that for us. You know it's certain it's not as black, but they're up, they know what they're doing, they're established, everybody wearing this stuff. So they late they had their own show. You know what I'm trying to say. But people like us and where I come from and my brand of our city, we don't get that much notice. You know we get those on the city. We probably get those on the internet too. You know Social media, bob. You know we marketed something like that too, but we don't get that stage and I bring that stage To be like global, to like expand past your hood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, to fill that like nah, like, hold on, like I just had a wavy ass experience. You know, I'm bringing a photographer out, I'm bringing a celebrity DJ this year coming out and like these scenarios y'all to him. You know, now I have one of these two tunes.
Speaker 2:That's a vibe. That's a vibe.
Speaker 1:So it's going down this year, like I tell you, by this year. This year is the time now we just we're not playing with. I'm bringing short that, you know. I'm bringing it to other brands that I've been wanting to work with. I haven't worked with yet and they're coming to the stage now For me I'm gonna let that be shown next and they're pretty, you know, up there. So I'm pretty happy about that too. So it's just like I'm just very blessed and just very grateful just to have that motion, just that kind of vibe, that drive, and people look forward to it, like I'm not gonna lie. People hit me up all the time. I was like what's the fashion? Show.
Speaker 1:What's going on? Ah, ah, ah, and it's just amazing for me. You have another question on here too.
Speaker 2:You talked about I didn't talk about your party promotion. Like do you consider yourself a party promoter? Cause I don't even. That's why they even ask about that. That's fine.
Speaker 1:I don't really consider myself as the party you feel me. I'm a party promoter. When I want to be a party promoter, like I choose to do what I want to do, it there's no like I have a set person More of an event planner.
Speaker 1:Right, you know. But I'm an event planner but I throw parties, like tomorrow I'm hosting, you know, at the club. So I do it here and there. You know, just extra vibes. I did it heavy in college to make extra money. Yeah, so the heavy, even in the crib houses. You know what I'm trying to say. Maybe I might get through this door. You ain't paying in this house, you understand. So it's just driven. I play no games about that. Nah, we can play no games about that. You gotta get that money. Man, it's juicing here. You give me free liquor, yeah, yeah, exactly, making you late. You have all the vibes in here. You can party all night. Music, come on, you're bringing the DJs here. You have no point.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're like king of networking for real Because, like out of everybody I spoke to, you really got this networking thing on lock for real?
Speaker 1:Nah, it's because you have to, let's say, you put yourself out there. You have to show love. You know what I'm saying. Even when love is not showing back to you, you got to show love.
Speaker 1:I'm still draining and it's draining, but you got to start from somewhere. You understand. Nobody understands that, like my momma, talk all the time like I used to hit teachers. You understand. But Ty, you're not going to pass the class or go further. If you don't get it, you don't come to understand them. You know how to light them. You feel me. Just have respect and I didn't have respect. But one time I realized like I don't know how to like you. I could do my work and get out of here and you don't have to talk to me. I got to talk to you. I'm OK with that. You understand, if I got to show you love and just like, know that I'm a true person, that I know I come from a good home where I'm taught to do this, I'm OK with that.
Speaker 2:But I can do it from one time, especially like in New York. People like that get just chewed up and spit out Like people don't walk over it, it do.
Speaker 1:It happened to me before. I'm going to keep it a stank. It happened to me before. I definitely got chewed up and spit out. No homo, I definitely definitely have to talk about it. And it's because you don't realize how much love you're giving. That's what I learned. You don't realize when you should have been stopped. Every single situation, you get a red flag, 100%. You see the red flag. We ignore the red flag. You understand we be on somebody now and about nothing. I'm still going to do this because I ain't about nothing. I'm going to talk about it. I got to break it to light because it's not about nothing. You know why? Because you, as a person, let it go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't even process somebody thinking that Exactly Negatively.
Speaker 1:So once you keep doing it and doing it and doing it, you can let it go, and then, when you really get violated, I got to point where niggas is late. I don't talk about that, though. When niggas is late and I'm still here where I'm at, you know what I'm trying to say and I don't help niggas be where they at, but it's just like it is what it is. I don't care, because you know why, because I'm going to be good when I meet you there. When I get there, you see me. What do them do? I did it. I put the work and I put the time in, and I understand the fact of the nature of this whole industry was going on, you understand. So it's all about that. So in New York, though it's weird vibes, though I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:It is very weird. Everybody man hostile and anti and just to themself. And it's very hard to be genuine to people when everybody is just so cut through.
Speaker 1:Cut through, but you have to have thick skin you understand yeah you do and you understand this. I live by this 100%. You got to live by no. That's why I always say this too right you can't find peace until you master it 100% you feel me.
Speaker 2:What does that even mean? I break that down right there.
Speaker 1:Basically, once you find your emotion, once you find what you're doing, once you find that, yes, take that shit. And you found that shit, you understand, and I'll ride that shit out, and nobody could take that shit from you. You know why? Because you did so many things in this world where it didn't work out for you. You found that one thing Take that shit and ride it. You're at peace now. You understand. You're at the play where now you can take this shit and go from zero to a fucking hundred or a thousand or a million, a thousand billion. You go all the way up because you found that shit and nobody could take that shit away from you at all.
Speaker 1:Nobody will tell you that shit is wack. All that design is mad wack, all that shit is mad wack. I don't care what you say. You know why? Because somebody over there thinks it's cool. Yeah, somebody over here thinks it's cool. They pay me money for it. They think it's cool. So I don't care what you think. You understand. And on top of that as well is you can't think your friends are going to help you as well. You understand that, yeah.
Speaker 1:Real life I had friends that go on vacation.
Speaker 2:That was a hard truth right there.
Speaker 1:That's the hard part. That's real life. I had friends that go on vacation. I go this place, that place, that place. You didn't hit me up like yo, let me go buy me a pair of sweatshirts from Benzo, where I go on vacation. But they go to all these big time stores and all these people I go to these little stores over here keep this, that, this, but they won't hit you up. But I learned to just accept that. You understand, I don't take no feelings inside, I don't care. You know why? Because when shit get late, because I know shit going to get late, when shit get late and I'm at the price now where I can charge this price, you think it would have this come.
Speaker 2:Got them. Yeah, it's funny because I always have this thought where it's like people like I have family, friends, people I probably don't even know, probably just on social media, I ask to come on a podcast, right, but there's only like this selective few, only two people I can think of right now that actually acts to like help with it. A lot of people just want to be seen in the spotlight with you, but there's just this selective few that you need to cherish that actually acts like oh, you need this edited. What's the fact? They don't charge me nothing. What's the fact? Oh, you need me to hold a camera, do a public interview real quick. I got you. What's the fact? And those people you need to cherish, not those people who are there just to like bask in the glory of everything you built brick by brick, bro shit, bro, shit.
Speaker 1:You have, like you say, a tribe. You understand Exactly, you have your team, your team together, like when you that person in charge. You understand that you have to cherish that kind of feeling. You know, like I have shout to myself Suki, like I could call her anytime at night, like yo, I need this, I need this, not Suki, ana, yeah.
Speaker 2:Suki.
Speaker 1:Ana, no, what she do, she do what you, what you, how you know her? I know her about that, how you know her about that, suki. Ana what she do? She do like spiritual stuff?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, we not talking about the same Suki Ana, bro, okay, okay, okay, okay, this one, no, okay.
Speaker 1:My friend, my friend, my friend, I could send her any graphic idea I have. She get it done. My flyer she get it done. I can tell you all about it. I'm about to send you a brand. Don't send me nothing. You feel me. Yeah, Don't send me anything. You understand. Like when I went to do this and I drew that, I'm like whatever, bro, but it's like you doing work for me, I don't send me anything. It's late, Like for me. My photographer, like I found him off of Facebook. I sent my fraternity brother. At that I found my Facebook. You know we all connect and even him. He charged me some for sometimes he won't charge me for my five year anniversary. He recorded fire pictures. The runway was fired, the video was fired. I think that was fire. He did my. I'm literally about to come out like a fake documentary about files. You think you sell your body. I need this. You understand, and that's love, Even though I offer. But I just love, you understand. So it's just like people like that you have to cherish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to be like Better than money, like that's really People, that you hold right there.
Speaker 1:That's what it is, though. It's building relationships, you understand, and that's the thing about business as well. You have to build relationships. You know why? Because not everybody that see me shoot. You know my page. You see who? Your photographer, allen Allen Allen. Everybody.
Speaker 1:He comes to the city doing people, lifestyle photographs based off the content that we created. You understand. So it's just like. It's bigger than that. I saw people talking.
Speaker 1:Working with me is bigger than working, is just with me. You're working with a network I'm putting you on. I don't want nothing from me. All I want is for you to win, you understand. I want you to win, I want me to win, I want all of us just to win. I'm gonna come down with one of us doing that play, that pedestal, and we can bring somebody up. You understand, you can bring people win. You can pull strings. You will never forget about me. You understand. You'll never forget about me, and I might say that just because that's why I'm doing things, but that's just the way. It's just how business works. You understand, like or not. I know what. The five designer. I know a five credit director. I know a fire stylist. I'm gonna call Benzo For me. I'm a calling right now, I know a fire event plan right now. He coming right now, simple, so it's just not in, but love all across the board, like nothing but love, nothing but love. And you said another question too about family. Right, you had something about a tribe.
Speaker 2:No, he really studied my question.
Speaker 1:Who inspired me something, something about who I looked upon my tribe, who I was asking mad things off the top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I got everything. I got everything. Yeah, yeah, money. What are, like, your final words you want to say to the people out there listening right now?
Speaker 1:I just want to say I just want to read, I guess all the time, that's why. But I just want to say, when you find something that you find you can do and you can actually keep up with, keep going, no matter what nobody says, no matter how many nos you get, break them walls down, bro, this world is so big, you can make. I see people on the highway selling fruit and chocolate. You understand, this world is bigger than us, bro. It's somebody out there that's listening, somebody out there that's watching, somebody out there that wants to be, you know, want to be hot, want to know how you got there, want to be you. You understand, and I just want to tell you just keep pushing. Like I said, just keep pushing, no matter what. That's my. I drive on that. I drive on, just keep pushing.
Speaker 1:I have days where I just I be zoned out, super zoned out, like I don't know what to do. But I understand, I always go back to why I started this shit Always. Go back to why I started this shit Always. It's a bigger measure than me. Spreading peace around just everywhere, everywhere, spreading peace around everywhere.
Speaker 1:Bro, you lost, when you lose so many people in your life, like that's the reason why I started this brand. Like when you lose so many people in your life, close people, it makes you look at life differently, and not negatively not to me to have negatively. You know I happen to be positively. You know I take that pain, I turn into something creative, I dish out to the world, like he created that fly graphic, you know, and that's just how the pain I was going through for me, like just certain things like now, like even the master piece, university of New York, that's a delhi thing. So it's just like I don't want to say to people just keep going y'all, no matter what you're like, just follow your message, follow your dream, keep going. Yes, keep going y'all.
Speaker 2:I love that so much? Oh my gosh, yes. So if you made it to the end of another episode, I appreciate you. Shout out to you, you real, you loyal, I appreciate you. Tap in, tap in with Ty Benzo. Master your piece, master piece. Everything link in the description. If you need to cop, do what you need to do.
Speaker 2:Link in the description At the end of another episode. I appreciate you. Tele-friend to tele-friend. Mother, that is mine the over matter, baby. Yes sir, oh, that was good, mine was a matter of. That was like a little over an hour.