Mind Over Matter: Mindset Development
Venting about life while trying to navigate through it and sharing what I’ve learned with the world through enlightening conversation. This podcast was made and carefully curated in the essence of myself Deja Wallace. I will take you on my journey of self-discovery through a video journal-type podcast that guides you to self-discovery as I evolve with every episode. Mind Over Matter is the power to govern how you feel internally through mindset development. This podcast is essentially for dreamers, deep thinkers, optimists, and anyone who’s on the journey of self-discovery. RATE COMMENT SUBSCRIBE
Mind Over Matter: Mindset Development
Escape The Matrix ft. Mike Barron
On this weeks episode, we're joined by 8 figure entrepreneur Mike Barron. Mike's early label as a troublemaker was only a prelude to the astounding success story that unfolded. Through a raw and unfiltered recount of the pitfalls and peaks of his life, Mike illustrates that the true essence of empowerment lies in the choices we make and the perspectives we embrace.
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God don't pick the qualified. God qualifies and then picks Okay. So now. Elementary school, high school, I'm like the last motherfucker that anybody thought was gonna be shit. He got ADHD, ocd. He got bottom five test scores. All my teachers like, no, that's Mike the troublemaker kid. I was not qualified on paper. Oh man, that boy's gonna be brilliant. He's gonna be a doctor, he's gonna be a lawyer, he's gonna be a fucking dentist. He's gonna be the print. No one ever thought that I wasn't qualified. I ain't trying to act too cool, but I'd imagine I'm the most successful person that graduated in my high school. No one would have imagined I would have went off and became an Inc 5000 C. I want to fast-growing SEALs in America right now.
Speaker 3:My double matter is magic. I do magic. Don't even know what I'm gonna hide. My double matter is magic. I do magic. Don't even know what I'm gonna hide. My double matter is magic. I do magic. Don't even know what you think the man works over metal. I do magic, I do magic. I love that damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that damn Okay.
Speaker 2:That's the real New York maiden. Well, not maiden at all, but that's the real New York greeting I love that I have to put you right. You know what I'm saying, Hell yeah, so welcome to Mind Over Matter baby, I'm your host, deja Wallace, and if you joined us today, welcome I appreciate you.
Speaker 2:Shout out to you, you real, you loyal, like you really came back to listen to another episode, episode big 86 in the building and I got a special guest with me today. I have Mike Barron. Mike Barron, thank you for joining me today.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:Coming fresh from Sunnyside, san Diego, so he decided to stop in today and I appreciate that. Mike Barron is an eight figure entrepreneur from San Diego, california, and he has a very interesting story. He came from the bottom and now he's here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He came from section eight, housing very rough upbringing, and now he's a millionaire. Not a lot of people could say that confidently, so I'm glad to have you here.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:I want to dive deeper into your story. So today we're going to talk, get to know more about you and your story, and I want to just understand more about your perspective and your mindset even the development of your mindset to have become millionaires. Let's dive deep into this episode, kick back, relax and enjoy this episode.
Speaker 1:Come on.
Speaker 2:So, mike, let's get into your upbringing. How was life like for you as a youth?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So first of all, thank you for having me for real. I appreciate the welcome, I appreciate the vibe and frequency. Real good, anyway. So now. I was born in 1984. So I was crazy to say I'll be 40 next month.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Somebody got to pinch me. You know what I'm saying, anyways. So my mom had me at 16 years old and I'm Vietnamese and Mexican. So I grew up in section eight, as you mentioned, and when I was born, my mom was the oldest of three sisters, so she was the oldest, she had two sisters, and I lived in the house with my grandma, my two aunts and my mom. So I was like the only boy in the household and when I was born I was fucked up Hyperactive, ocd, adhd, bouncing off walls, just a wild kid. And when I got into elementary school, same deal. There's about 25 kids in the class. I'm the only one that can't sit still. I'm the only one that don't take naps during nap time. I'm the only one that.
Speaker 1:So they said I was a little slower and it was tough for me growing up. I can keep going, but I just grew up. I progressed to like fifth, sixth grade and during that time, when I was about to finish junior high or, excuse me, elementary school, I was like bottom 5% in the whole state of California. So they wanted to keep me back. Fortunately, my parents didn't do this, but they wanted me on drugs. I remember being with the principal, the nurse, the teacher. They're like yeah, you're your son, he's not going to, he has a learning disorder. So it was really rough for me growing up. In elementary school I progressed to junior high, I became an athlete. I excelled in football, I was a wrestler, I was captain on my team and I did that for a little bit. And by the time I'm 15, like 10th grade, I got into a. I wanted to be a gangster, I wanted to be a tough guy. So, yeah, I basically walked out of high school. Two felonies, yeah. So that's kind of how it grew up.
Speaker 2:So why did your parents decide not to make you take the medication that they suggested for you to take?
Speaker 1:Yeah, good question. So my stepdad came along, richie white dude. He came along when I was about four and in kindergarten he's like so let me ask you a question how long do they have to sit on the carpet? They're like oh, the kids sit on the carpet on average about four hours, five hours a day. He's like so you're telling me right now that my five-year-old son has to sit on the carpet for five hours a day and the problem is he can't sit still. Like can you sit on a carpet and sit still for five hours? So he was young. So he was like shit.
Speaker 1:I was five years old, so he was like 23. And he's like I can't even sit still on the carpet. Can you sit still on the carpet? He's like my son's not crazy, my son has a gift. So he saw I was just a unique person. And he's like no, you tripping, you crazy, he ain't taking no fucking drugs. So they made that decision. Yeah, but it was getting pressed on me, though, even though I was slower than all the kids or whatever. I remember Michael, go play with the toys in the classroom on the other side. I remember the principal there, the teacher there, the nurse there. I remember him saying you might want to consider giving this one drug so that way he can actually be part of the classroom. So my stepdad turned it down.
Speaker 2:Do you think that would have limited you if you did take that route?
Speaker 1:So I don't want to offend nobody, but I'm not into drugs like that. They said the same thing about my 13-year-old, my 13-year-old. They said the same thing when she was five. We went to the doctors I'm talking about two minutes in this man's mouth the doctor, the data shows that she needs something to stay focused. I told my wife. I said she ain't different, she ain't weird. She got a gift, she got energy. So to answer the question, would that limit me? I feel like it would have, because I would have been doped up all through elementary school. I would have been doped up. I would have been on a drug to calm me down.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, it's interesting because most of the drugs they give to people who have children just crazy, who have ADHD is called retinol.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:They've stripped down retinol to the molecules and it's literally a few molecules away from being pure cocaine. Yeah, I heard about that, so actually, I'm happy that you aren't on that, because it can become addicting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, imagine a little five six-year-old boy on retinol.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Come on now, yeah.
Speaker 2:So what part of your journey did you become addicted to personal development? And just wanted to better yourself, because you did say you had two felonies. What made you really want to wake up and just do a full 180 and change your life?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So now let me back up a little bit. So now I'm like seventh. I'm like seventh, eighth grade, and we never had money. And there was something, there was something in me where I asked my stepdad I'm like how can we not rich? Like how can we, you know, how can we ain't rich? And he was like he answered a corny as hell. He's like we are rich, I'm rich. His name is Richard. He's like we are rich, I'm rich, I'm like man, get out of here. So we never had money, right? So when I was like, I remember being in fourth grade and my aunts bought me some Nikes, and I remember going to fifth grade, my parents never bought me new shoes and they bought me some Payless shoes. Okay, you know.
Speaker 2:Payless right? Yeah, I was in there too.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I remember being, like you know, 10 years old and I didn't want to wear Payless, so I wore the shoes that really didn't fit me anymore. From fourth grade, the fall on the year, long story and longer. I always wanted like fly shit. I always wanted nice shit. I wanted Nikes, I wanted Felas, you know, I wanted Reeboks or whatever. So we never had no money. So I'm like, okay, my parents got no money, so I need to go get some money. So in junior high I started selling candy and you know, that's a real hustle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is that? Did you do something similar A lot?
Speaker 2:of kids like used to do that. My brother used to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I go to like the Costco or Sam Goodies or whatever you know, I'll pocket like 10, 15 bucks a day. I go to the store, I buy one, I steal one, you know just saying. And so I was doing that. So now I fast forward to high school and I'm gonna answer your question. So now I'm in high school, I'm like ninth, 10th grade Still ain't got no damn money. But now I got a team, like a little street team, selling my candy. So I got like three cats selling my candy. So now I'm like the big boss. Now, you know.
Speaker 1:So I remember this girl in my, in my she's like my math and Spanish class. She hit her. She's like why are you selling all this candy? Why are you always trying to get people to sell candy? I'm like because I'm a, I'm a buy Rolex. I'm a buy Rolex. She's like you're gonna buy Rolex, boy, you crazy, you know. So I'm like 14 years old, 15. I'm a buy Rolex.
Speaker 1:So now you fast forward to like 18. I'm a two time felon. Me and my mom never really got along and it was like one of the. It's like boys in the hood. It's like you're 18, you ain't gonna be shit. You ain't. Don't do shit Like when you turn 18, get the fuck out of my house.
Speaker 1:So now I'm walking out of high school and I don't got no plan. College was not in my, in my cards. I did the community college thing for a minute and I, I, I, what, what? The reason I tell you the long story is cause I had these big dreams, as like as a young kid 12, 13, 14, 15. I'm like we're gonna have fucking Lamborghinis and Rolexes. We don't live in a mansion. I walked to the high school and I gave up on that. I gave up on that and before I answer the question, this is what I believe. I believe that.
Speaker 1:So I got a three year old and a newborn baby four months. So I believe that when people are born, they got this like innate ability to, to, to, to be all they can be. Okay, I take, if I took my, my, my four year old or my three year old right now and I took her to target and I'll go by the toy section, she's gonna be like I want that, I want that, I want that, I want that, and what happens is the mom, the aunt, the grandma, the teacher says nope, can't do that? Nope, that's not realistic. Nope, your birthday's in two months. Nope, christmas is three months. Nope, that's not real. No, we can't afford it. So I believe the little baby that's like reaching Okay, that one of the toys, the 12 year old that want the Rolex, they're reaching. I believe that life happens and people say no, society says no. So now the kids walking out of high school and the kids who's been told no, so damn long they've been like suppressed. Basically they stopped reaching.
Speaker 1:So now I'm like 18, 19, 20, I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm sleeping in my car. I give up on my dreams, I gotta go. I gotta go get realistic. I go good at a nine to five, I'm paying rent late, and so now I run into this woman at like 25, yehidah.
Speaker 1:I run into her, the girl from my math and Spanish class.
Speaker 1:She's like Mike, Mike B, mike, is that you?
Speaker 1:I was like girl, what's up?
Speaker 1:She's like man.
Speaker 1:It's been so long I ain't seen her since high school.
Speaker 1:Just ran into her at a function and she was like hey, man, do you ever get that Rolex? It fucked me up. It like like, like you know, the way I would describe it is that like somebody grabbed my collar to smack me like wake up, man, like what happened to you. So she has no idea really. You know what she did to me. I forgot who I was a 12 year old boy, a fortune or boy that won at Lamborghini's, that won at Rolex's, that won at Manchin's, that won at Nice Shit. That wanted to be the man I forgot because life happened to me. So when I seen her, you know, I kind of like got back on course. So I'm in corporate now, I'm a career advisor and I became like number one at like 250 people in the first month. So, you know, I started going to YouTube how to be successful, you know how to make money, how to get rich, and I find Eric Thomas. Eric Thomas, you know the name ET when you wanna breathe, when you wanna succeed.
Speaker 2:I think I would know the face.
Speaker 1:Okay, like I would say, like one of the biggest cats in the space for person development, like the last 15 years. So what he says is when you wanna succeed as bad as you wanna breathe, then you'll be successful.
Speaker 2:You definitely heard that one before.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm about Okay, so I go through that and it's like I'm hooked. I'm like okay, like shoot this shit in my veins type deal. So I get hooked on person development and I get so deep into it that like I'm going to sleep on it, I'm sharing to it. I done thrown out the Wayne and the M and the Jay-Z and I flipped it out the car and now I turned my car into like a university. So everything that's just coming to my world is just you're beautiful, you're smart, you're successful, you're creative, you're this, you're that. So naturally, I just start talking like that, even though I was broke as shit, I'll start talking like that.
Speaker 2:That's a reprogram yourself.
Speaker 1:That's what I did. Yeah, so that was like I'm 39, I'll be 40 soon, next month and that was like the first domino of me, like changing. I always thought that I used to look at the moon. I used to look at the sky and be like God. Why? Why got so much bad luck? Why my life so bad? How come my mom don't love me? How come you know this? How come I buy a new car and blew a head of gasket and then fix the car for 1300 bucks and I blow another head gasket? Like how come somebody broken in my car stole my stereo? Like, how come, like bad luck, bad luck? Soon, as I got into the development, everything changed here. Everything became positive. Like I go across street and I'm like how come I get fucked with by the police? Like how come I go across street, somebody look at me and we're all getting into a fist fight.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So soon as that happened, everything changed. My outlook changed, my mindset changed.
Speaker 2:You know, like you, it's kind of like you your mindset was expecting for the bad to happen 100% everything you get your clothes, your physical appearance, your it's all here, it's all here.
Speaker 1:So when I got right here, that's when everything changed. I stopped becoming a victim. So yeah, that's how it all started, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really the essence of Mind of a Matter in a nutshell.
Speaker 1:No 100%.
Speaker 2:It's aligned right there. One of my favorite movies is the Matrix. Oh, hell, yeah, of course, like I'll be feeling like a black meal for real. That's funny. I love that. And I was listening to one of your interviews and you spoke about life being like a game it's all a game.
Speaker 1:This should a game. Break that down, yeah, okay. So this they say me, this comes from a body of knowledge called Wise Consulting, wisc. So they say a game is this. Here's some real game for you guys watching right now. Okay, so a game is consists of three things Freedom, barriers and purpose. I'm gonna say it one more time A game is freedom, barriers and purpose.
Speaker 1:So let's think about an old school game Pac-Man. Freedom I can go up and down, I can go left and right. Barriers I can't just jump off the screen. There's, like you know, certain, there's the walls. The purpose Don't get killed by the ghost, eat all the dots you know, and go to the next level. That's one game, okay. Let's think about another game. Okay, grant the photo. Okay, freedom I can go steal a car.
Speaker 1:I can go, you know, meet the mob boss and go control that block. I can just sit there and do nothing. I got the freedom to do what I want. Barriers what's the barriers? The police, what's the barrier? The competition, the other bosses that are trying to take over your hood or whatever. What's the purpose? To dominate, to take over. So life right now. You're here, I'm here, okay, we got people in the studio right now. We had the freedom and choice to come here today. I had the freedom and choice to go to the gym today. I had the freedom and choice to create a business. I could have done nothing, so I have the freedom to do what I want. Barriers what's the barrier? Money ain't falling from the sky, like, if we talk about money and we talk about financial freedom, if we talking about, like, having a good marriage or a good relationship and we talking about giving back to your community, okay, that doesn't just fall from the sky. There's competition, there's external factors, there's, you know, there's things pushing back. It was the purpose, shit.
Speaker 1:My purpose is to help those off on the left behind. You know, I'm for the single mom. I'm for a little bro on the bus stop right now when it's cool to shit, but he going to community college. I'm for the person that been overlooked, the underdog, basically overlooked, underappreciated, underpaid, like. I love everybody, that's cool, but I'm always gonna like. I'm always gonna identify as like, like, in a weird way, I'm always gonna identify as like, damn near underdog, cause that's where I come from, you know. So that's the and that's the bear's. That's the purpose to help my help, those off the left behind my purpose.
Speaker 1:My second purpose is to free my people. Who's my people? Well shit, my wife, my kids, my team, my community. You know like I don't want to see them struggle and suffer. So life is a hundred percent a game. It's a game Like. I can go outside right now, go up to the cop at crazy, go below smoke in his face, go act like I'm a threat to him and I'm gonna go to jail. I can go outside, go see that same cop and be like hey, good morning, good to see you. I'm for San Diego, man. You know like I love what y'all do service people. Man, gotta take a picture. I go downstairs, flick people off, get into a fist fight. I go downstairs, start waving out folks. Life is a fucking game, it's all. It's a game, you know.
Speaker 2:And so you do believe in freedom of choice, obviously, oh, hell yeah course, hundred percent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, life is a game. It's all a game. It's all a game, everything. I'm a corporate, right, I become a president. By the time I'm like 27, 28. Meanwhile, at 18, I had two felonies, 27,. I'm going home with my friends. We in the garage, smoking weed, talking shit, we rapping, we go to the bargain and fist fight or whatever the fuck. And I go to corporate and I'm like, hey, how you doing, Mike Baron, good to meet you. I got my Hugo Boss on. It's just a game. And the ones that know how to play the game, that know how to move those pieces, those are the ones that come up. It's a game.
Speaker 2:So when you were at that point where you didn't have the role, yet and that old classmate of yours asked you a question right, and it sparked that epiphany in you Moving forward. How did you like? Because you did not see that that was not something you seen in your reality as like a common hood you had to go and search for it right. So how important is it now that you in retrospect, that your environment matches your frequency?
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that's everything. But that's like your environment, 100% Like. You're never really gonna become who you wanna be if your environment's fucked up, and that includes the people that you messing with. That includes people that are like in your circle, that includes the condition of your car or your crib or your cubicle or whatever.
Speaker 2:But at that moment your environment didn't match that?
Speaker 1:No, it didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 2:How do you get out of that?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know it's gonna take time, so how did you?
Speaker 1:So now one of my big influences is a as a cat named Bob Proctor, triple OG in the development space. Triple OG and the game I got from him was that Bob Proctor says that everything you want, it exists. Everything you want, it already exists, either in this form or another, or in this universe or another. It already exists. So I accepted that as like my truth. Okay. So now, for example, I'm saying like I'm 15, I'm already like you know, I'm already a felon. And I'm telling my classmates I'm a rocker-rolly, I'm gonna have a Lamborghini. So I'm like, right here at 15, who would've knew that I was gonna go through life and hit those things? What's the point At that time, at 15, when no one could see it, not even me. It already existed and if I would've went left a millimeter, I would've missed it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so now I'm like shit, I'm in my early 20s. I'm like 22, 23. I'm dating this girl. We're together for shit, six, seven years. We got a bad breakup, first girl I ever moved out with.
Speaker 1:And that night I go out to my balcony I'm on the second floor, I don't make this up. It's a full moon out. I'm looking at the moon and I'm like, hey, listen, you don't know me, I don't know you, we haven't met yet. But to my future wife, I can't wait to meet you and I love you already. And I met my wife two weeks later. I'm like looking out on the city, type shit, like I know you're out there. You don't know me, I know you, but I can't wait to meet you and I love you. What am I talking about? Who knew two weeks? Who knew I was gonna go like this and then two weeks later I would have met my wife? So what I'm saying is everything you want already exists. So my new shit I'll be on. I'm like I'm writing down I'm a billionaire. It already exists. So what I did was I accepted that as truth.
Speaker 1:So whoever's watching this right now so the people watching this right now they wanna get to the next. They're doing okay. They wanna go to good or they're doing good. They wanna go to great. They're great. They wanna go to perfection or they're having some troubles and they wanna start making it. Whatever. What they gotta understand, whoever's watching this, is that everything you want, it already exists. That perfect boyfriend, that perfect girlfriend, that perfect spouse, that perfect house, that perfect dog, that perfect whatever the fuck. Everything already exists.
Speaker 1:So once I downloaded that piece of data I was like damn, that makes sense. That shit, cause you're gonna go through life and nothing of this makes sense. Who knew your roommate was gonna jack your shit and then disappear, like everybody been through some funny shit at some point. If you're old enough, if you're an adult and it's hard to see some of the good things are coming when you're going through the bullshit so again I believed, I know today that everything I wanna exist. So now it's not a matter of can it be done or is it possible, or maybe I know whatever I want is there. All I gotta do is make a committed decision. I gotta do the work to do it. So it's not like can it be done, it's like how do I shorten up the time? So if your environment's not there and your situation's not there and you're gonna fuck up, none of that shit matters.
Speaker 2:I like how you say you spoke it into existence yeah yeah, like even when your environment wasn't aligning how you wanted it to be right at that moment, you spoke it into existence. So what is the power of speaking things into reality?
Speaker 1:Shit. It starts with thoughts, then after thoughts is words. So, like, I'm gonna give you a poem, I bet you know where to give you a poem. Has anyone ever give you a poem on the show? No, first song. Okay, I'm gonna give you a poem ready. It goes like this. It goes like this Believing, believing, believing you will be living what you believe in, even though you will be lying anything you tell yourself about a feature-based outcome. You made it up. So if you're gonna make up stories that serve you versus stories that do not, doesn't it make up stories that serve you? Okay, I kinda fucked it up, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:I still feel like you didn't do it. Here we go. I'm gonna go one more time, believing, believing. Believing. You will be living what you believe in, even though you will be lying. If you tell yourself people like to pay you, you made it up. If you tell yourself that people don't like to pay you, you made it up. So, if you're gonna make up stories about your future, doesn't it make sense to make up stories that serve you versus stories that do not?
Speaker 2:Mm, yeah, you got it. Then you ate with that one. That was it. So what does that mean? Yeah, that one was it. What does that mean? That was good.
Speaker 1:So watch this. I'm in New York. We from San Diego. I got my wife and my babies at the hotel right now the Marriot, whatever. Diana's gonna be so cool. We're gonna go eat the best pizza in the country. Diana's gonna be so fun. We about to go take the kids to Central Park. Diana's gonna be fun. I'm gonna go connect with one of my people out here. I'm gonna go get on some pog. It's my anniversary today, 15 years.
Speaker 2:Oh, on February 4th, on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was our first date too, not when we got married, we got married on this day. It's actually the first day I met her too. Wow, I'm trying to tell you that's so you know, to be married 15 years.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 1:You gotta keep it spicy. So I'll be doing like a date night every other week. We go to a new steak joint. Okay, we go to a new steak joint. Oh, my Diana, this place got good reviews. My man from Charlotte. He says it's the best steak in Charlotte. They just opened this one in San Diego. It's gonna be great. I can go there and the waiter could be an asshole. I can go there. The food could be horrible. I can go there and the service could be garbage. I can.
Speaker 1:If I'm gonna make up stories about my future, doesn't it make sense to make up stories that serve me versus stories that do not? I could have came to New York. Some bullshit could have happened. I could have went to the steak joint. So it starts here.
Speaker 1:But it's the word is truth, word is law. So the words you speak is what it is. I'm not good at math, you're right. I'm not good at making friends, you're right. You know what I'm saying. I'm not really good at network. I guarantee you're not good at networking. You know.
Speaker 1:What do you got going on, amanda, Jessica? What do you got going on, ricky? What you got going on? Oh, it's finals week. Oh, how are you feeling about finals. I feel good about my bio class, I feel good about my history class. I felt, ah, my camp, that's just that one for me. I'm just not good at camp, you're right. So it starts with the words, and starts with the thoughts, and then the words. The problem is, most people live at the surface level. Man, I do this shit. That Mike said on the damn podcast, and I had a good attitude and I said these things, and that cat life didn't change in two weeks. So now he giving up, or a homegirl. She didn't get the result in 30 days, and now she, man, I've been eating dirt for a fucking two decades before I even got anything. Yes, you know so.
Speaker 2:It's funny because, like recently, I had like this mindset kind of shift.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Where I was trying to get there, but like I was being very double minded, Okay, which is normal. Yeah, where I was like I had one foot in and one foot out but I wasn't, I could not like fully commit because I kept holding on to that old version of myself and I thought that I would not be cool anymore.
Speaker 2:I won't be likable or accepted by the people around me because I'm this new version of myself, but that happens though. Yeah, when I just fully stepped into faith and just like let go of anybody's perception of me, that's how I was fully able to like step into, like this upgraded version I love that it's a game right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have to level up, yes, and you know I've been through that, you know so, like you know so I grew up as a homeboy and you know, in my 20s I'm done doing the bullshit. I'm not really. You know we might get fucked up and have some liquor or whatever, but we ain't really out there doing too much, too much. I ain't in streets like that, no more. And I remember when I went through that shift and I started getting fucking obsessed on development, I just remember I was like I was like misplaced. I used to go hang out with my friends again and you know I remember being like I'm about to start my business, I'm about to do this, I'm about to start my marketing company. And, by the way, they'd be like Mike, stop man. Like like you don't, like nobody's working right now, bro, like chill, or Mike, stop trying to impress us man, like we know who you are.
Speaker 1:And I just remember like one time I was at my boy's house In fact, his son is my godson and I remember like all my boys were there, all the wives will hang out Must have been about 10, 15 deep and I remember in the backyard just playing like well, my godson, just like throwing the football at night. My wife came out like where are you at, where are you? Like I couldn't I didn't even like to say I couldn't, but like it was hard for me to go in the house because I was so misplaced. And you know, it's just, it was one of those things where, like they didn't change, I changed, and I'm never going to be too good or too cool or no shit like that, cause we don't play that.
Speaker 1:But it's just like you'll notice, when you start doing that real development, you know you go, it's Thanksgiving, it's Christmas, it's a holiday. You'll start noticing. You're like, damn Jessica, I didn't know she was so damn negative. Or are my cousin Ricky? He complained about everything. You never noticed it and what it is? You're just like more conscious to your words, your thoughts. You know what I'm saying. That's where the growth happens. So I do want to tell you one thing though. So anybody that's like is going through some shit or wants to come up, and they ain't really, they ain't really come, came up. Yet I got a bar for you.
Speaker 1:I already gave you a poem, so I'm gonna give you a little bar.
Speaker 2:I'm here for it.
Speaker 1:Okay, the bar is that God don't pick the qualified. God qualifies and then picks. Okay, god don't pick the qualified. God qualifies and then picks. So God's not like, hey, you live in this zip code or you like got the best looks, or your parents are this last name, or you qualify on paper, you got the highest IQ, whatever what that means, is you kind of like you gotta go through some bullshit? I ain't trying to act too cool, but I'd imagine I'm the most successful person that graduated in my high school. No one would have imagined I would have went off and became an ink 5000 C. I want to. Fast-growing COs in America right now, number 332.
Speaker 2:Break that down again. God doesn't pick the qualified.
Speaker 1:God don't pick the qualified. God qualifies and then picks Okay. So now. Elementary school, high school, I'm like the last motherfucker that anybody thought was gonna be shit. He got ADHD, ocd. He got bottom five test scores. All my teachers like, no, that's Mike the troublemaker kid. I was not qualified on paper. Oh man, that boy's gonna be brilliant. He's gonna be a doctor, he's gonna be a lawyer, he's gonna be a fucking dentist. He's gonna be the president. No one ever thought that I wasn't qualified.
Speaker 2:When you are able to elevate, you're able to navigate through those spaces better.
Speaker 1:Totally, totally. You know what I mean, 100%.
Speaker 2:So it's not that life got easier for you it's you're able to navigate the spaces better.
Speaker 1:That's a good point. I've been on a lot of podcasts, I know, whenever I brought that up. So what used to fuck me up before is I got a flat tire. What used to fuck me up before is that something would happen Me. I don't let the little shit sweat me no more. Exactly, you know what I'm saying Like life still is gonna happen to you. You know like things are still gonna happen.
Speaker 1:You know we're at the airport. On the way here, they lost the damn. You know the baby's car seat. You know what I'm saying. I'm at the airport for two hours. I, you know I handle them and get my car seat. Whatever. I told my wife. I say you know me not to look younger.
Speaker 1:Not too long ago I would have flipped the fuck out cause of seeing it. Don't phase me, I don't like. I'm happy that I don't have a terminal illness. Exactly, and I got family members that have. You know my grandma passed away from cancer two years. Like that ain't shit. You know Little small things.
Speaker 1:My daughter's, my boy, miguel, one of my business partners. He's visiting from Arizona. He pulls up like every two weeks. We're business partners and we're my daughter's late to school and we're driving this traffic or whatever. And Miguel, he's from Mexico city. He's like puppy, how do you do it? I'm like what? He's like how come you're not stressed out that she's late? And I'm like, why should I be? He's like, yeah, if that was me and my wife, we would have, we would have been super stressed, like like, like, like blood pressure. I'm like the problems I got to solve in this lifetime is go fucking help mankind. The problems I got to solve in my life is go become a billionaire. I'm gonna stress the fuck out because my daughter's like 10 minutes late for school. It don't, it don't. It's nothing, it don't sweat me, it's nothing, you just handle it. It don't, it don't.
Speaker 2:Like a few years from now, you're not even gonna remember that.
Speaker 1:No, it's nothing.
Speaker 2:It is nothing, exactly you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Don't let this small shit sweat you. You're alive right now. Be grateful.
Speaker 2:Exactly so you do have this power statement that I see a lot that you say see you at the top, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:See you at the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What does that mean for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So that's my slogan and it's like I say it is an empowering way, and I say it when people act weird. So I'm gonna go the empowering way first. So you know, like we're all climbing this thing. You know corporate, you're climbing like the corporate ladder in society. You're climbing that like that social ladder, whatever you know. So I live with the rich folks. Now they think I'm like the, the community rapper. Even I don't rap, you know, because nobody looked like me. They all look like doctors and shit, right, yeah. So you know, on my journey I say about, I started saying that 2015,.
Speaker 1:And it was like, okay, we're gonna do all that, like we gonna do all that, like we gonna retire folks, we gonna retire my wife's mom, we gonna give back to the community. Like money is not everything. Obviously that's not really what it is, but it's the best way to keep track of the score. Okay. So now, if we going for financial freedom, it's like I'm going, I'm gonna climb like that big ass Mount Everest right in front of you, like I love y'all, but I'm going like I'm 100% going, I'm giving fuck if there's tigers and I'm going, period. So boom, boom, boom, boom. I'll see you at the top. That's what it is, and you can't really ever reach the top. You know, I must say reach the top. It's like, you know you just chasing that best version of yourself is what it is. That's what it means to me. I'll see you at the top Because, like, I don't know about y'all, but I'm going to go, I'm going to go climb this fucking summit.
Speaker 2:This is the top really lonely, as they say, cause you have reached the top to some degree. I don't believe that shit.
Speaker 1:Like I don't, like I love people. I got a team of about a hundred give or take. We have about a hundred people, sometimes more. I got, I got good people in my life. Still, you know I got, I got.
Speaker 1:I know people that are, that are really wealthy, that are not good people. I know people that are wealthy, that are, you know, just some of the most kind people. I know people that are broke, that are fucking untrustworthy. I know people that are broke that are like some of the most kind people they ever meet. So money don't really change people. They say money changes. He got money, now he changed. He got money, now he thinking of the shit, no, that guy was always a fucking asshole, but now he got money. So now, the more, the more truth is coming out, you know. So me, I like to be nice, I like to be friendly, I like to be kind, I like to be welcome. I don't like to shake people's hands, I like to dab people up. I like to hug people. You know I like, I, I, I to meet the top ain't lonely.
Speaker 2:What is your perspective on money in this game?
Speaker 1:Money's energy okay, money's energy. Money needs a flow, money, money. What money is is it buys freedom. It buys freedom. Okay, little small shit, you know.
Speaker 2:So when we're born, you don't think we don't have money, Like are you free?
Speaker 1:That's a good question. I, I, that's a good question. Most of us are not free because we're gonna make a decision based on like, like look at me people in New York, they all going from A to B. They're going from like their house to work. Some people making big paper, some people making little paper. Is is is it's just. We go across street to McDonald's to get a coffee. Like they're not gonna give me a free coffee. Like I gotta give you some some chips to get that coffee. You know we go across street to get what you know, whatever you gotta, you gotta fork up some bread, you know, to get that I, you know, like what I'm, what I'm right now, what I'm on a mission on right now is a 39 year old man. I'm on a mission right now to free my wife and my daughters and then my people. So, like I'm making money, stacking money.
Speaker 2:So why do you say they're not free right now?
Speaker 1:Because if, if I go hit, get hit by a bus right now, if I walk across street and get hit by a bus, right, all right, my, my daughters are gonna have to go work to make a living, okay, okay. And and I don't want my daughters to work to make a living I want my daughters to be the best expression themselves and my daughter already wants to be an artist and she just loves artwork and money and anything. I want her to go do that. Perhaps she don't want to do that, perhaps she want to. If she wants to go drive, you know, a city bus and that's what she's fulfilled, that I don't give a fuck. I just want her to be able to have choices to do what she wants, not based off of like, oh I, I, I got to do this piece, I got to make a dollar, so I I'm making money, stacking money, investing money. Make money, stacking money, investing money.
Speaker 1:So in in recent years I became a real estate investor, so in apartment complexes, so now with apartment. To me, that's, that's where the freedom's at Cause I get net, you know, like mailbox money on the first or the third. I get checks in the mail. So, like I'm running out of time. I need to go get more fucking apartment complexes so that way I can, when I expire, when my body, you know, is done, I can go to Juliana, my oldest, aria, my middle child, marina, okay, my little baby, diana. My wife, six years younger than me, like this, is here, take it, don't screw this up, and then they'll they'll, like my last name, will, get paid forever. I don't want, I don't want them to have to work for a dollar. I want them to be able to make decisions based off of what they they want. So that's what I gotta say about that.
Speaker 2:So you say God qualifies right.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:So do you believe that everything is already written, like your story is already written, damn. Or do you think that's a good question. That's a good question. Your freedom of choice and your willpower kind of just makes everything like in provision in a way.
Speaker 1:That's a really good question. That's a good question Cause I can go either way. That's a really good question Cause I believe in both, but both are different. So I believe that everything's written. You know, god don't make mistakes. God don't make, like the universal make mistakes.
Speaker 1:Like you know, when I had my roommate that I, you know he, I had a roommate. My daughter must've been one years old. I don't even tell nobody this. I had a roommate and he was like a young cat and he was a street cat. I'm always like we shouldn't have him as a roommate. Like he. That's trouble. And I was. I was already going through my bullshit. So I was like man, no, he's a homeboy, he cool. Like he liked to drink, he liked to talk shit. I brought him to my, my, my boy's house and he started. He got fucked up. He started trying to fist fight everybody so I had to touch him. I come home later that night, all my jewelry's gone. He didn't jack the whole. Like that, don't make no. Like that's horrible. Like you know, it's like how do you, how did this happen? We just put this guy in our house.
Speaker 1:God don't make mistakes. After every lesson there's a blessing, steve Harvey. So I feel like everything is written, but regardless of like God, don't make mistakes. We're all supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be here right now, this moment, with you. But I also believe in the freedom of choice, where all you got to do is make a committed decision. You want to get that? You want that six-pack make a committed decision, okay. You want that partner make a committed decision. You want to open that retail store? You got to make. So let me answer your question Choice is senior to everything. Choice is senior to everything. Yeah, choice, make a decision yeah.
Speaker 2:So, although God doesn't make mistakes, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why do you think tragedy happens?
Speaker 1:That's like almost above awareness of a human being. Let me give you like one of my examples, and it's kind of sensitive but it's all good. My grandma. She passed at 76, and I'm so close to my grandma, I call her mom. I still have her saved in my phone. You got my phone. I still got to save to my phone as my favorites and every now and then I'll pocket out her. I'm like, okay, she thinking about me right now. And when she passed I was there every day for our last six months when we knew she had cancer every day and I was the only one that seen her take her last breath.
Speaker 1:I didn't go to bed because I just knew and I'm like I'm trying to make sense of this, I'm trying to make sense of this. Years before she got diagnosed with cancer, she used to say this too, like I'm a die soon, I'm old, I'm a die soon. And she was perfectly healthy. So it's just like I don't tell nobody. I ain't even told nobody that she would I'm a die soon, I'm a die soon. I'm a die soon, I'm a die soon. Her life got short because of a horrible disease called cancer. They're horrible illness.
Speaker 1:I just you know, you see she fucked up shit. You see people getting kidnapped, murdered, raped. You know I'm a father of three girls. Molestation, like it's like why does that kind of shit happen? Damn, that's a good question. That's a really good question. I believe that, like 99% of stuff that happened, I believe 99% of things happen for you, not to you. So I don't believe in being a victim. I believe it's like what you create. So how, that little third three year old getting in a car accident? That's a really good question. That's a tough one. I usually can answer it every damn question, but that's a tough one, that's a really tough one, damn yeah, it's just one of those. It's just one of those things, it's just. There's something that that creator is just.
Speaker 2:It's the unknown. It's the unknown. Yeah, I don't know the answer.
Speaker 1:Like how could I make sense of a three year old getting in a fire in their home? Yeah, you know, like it's something. Yeah, perhaps I'd be transcended into a higher expression, but that's just one of those unknown.
Speaker 2:So if life is a game, how do you beat it?
Speaker 1:You gotta go find truth. You gotta go find. You know, like, if I pulled out my wallet, if I pulled out my wallet right here, okay, so I got this wallet right here If I release my fingers, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1:It's gonna drop, it's gonna drop, okay, that principle. That law is called gravity. And you know, like any principle in law, if that happens in New York city, that can happen in San Diego, that can happen in Beijing, china, it can happen on the moon. Might be different gravity, but that principle is a universal law. There's other laws that are, you know, like unseen, like you could see me drop that in a falls. There's another law called cause and effects. So, which means is whatever you put out is what you get back. Okay, whatever you put out is what you get back. That is a principle.
Speaker 1:So you wanna go find truth? Okay, if you've been married and divorced, if you've been married five times, been divorced five times, no judgment. There's something that you don't know about marriage. If you've been going to the gym for two years and you haven't, like, gotten any more strength, there's something you don't know about working out. If you started a business and you wanna make with some real paper, and you've been at it for five years, six years, and you ain't got no paper yet, there's just something you don't know. There's just something you don't know.
Speaker 1:So KNOW is no, k stands for knowledge, n-o in the middle stands for no, w stands for wisdom. So when you don't have knowledge, you get NO. So, like it's not about being negative, it's not about being positive. Okay, you see so many people on Instagram positive, positive quote, motivation, quote, and they're struggling it which is fine because they're going through that journey, they're going through that desert. But I've been pausing for a long time. I've been optimistic for a long time. I still go through the bullshit. So you gotta go find truth in the universe. There's truth in laws that you gotta go discover.
Speaker 2:So do you think the truth is relative for people or the truth is consistent Because it's the universal law?
Speaker 1:It's consistent, okay, okay, what was it? The Christian Bible? The truth shall set you free. Yeah, the truth shall set you free.
Speaker 2:Because some people are really delusional, like you'll go outside on Canal Street and you'll hear some crack head telling you that he's Barack Obama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he truly believes that.
Speaker 2:You put him on a lie detector test and he's going through that path.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit will even pass.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, right? Yeah, that's funny. So it's universal. You gotta go find truth. Yeah, definitely, you gotta go find truth. So that's what I'm seeking is it's like so I imagine you never heard this, because I never heard anybody say this about me.
Speaker 1:I believe the secret to success is having the right data or having the right information and operating all that information. The secret to success is having the right information and operating on the information. So now, if I'm operating off a lie, I'm gonna get what a lie gets me A whole lot of nothing. Like. If I'm on a building right now, I'm on the edge. I'm like man, there ain't no gravity tripping. I can step off that. I'm done. Splat goodbye. So me, what I'm doing with this person development stuff is I'm just looking for truth. You know I'm studying Billinaires right now. If I wanna go become a Billiner, I need to stop listening to cats I used to listen to. I gotta go with some principles on how to become a Billiner. So that's what I'm consistent with doing just looking for data and information. I'm a straight crack at for information. Hold on timeout. What'd you say? Again? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Let me repeat it back to you, and that's where I'm at right now, just looking for fucking truth.
Speaker 2:With this over, with the age of over information, how do we differentiate the truth from the lie?
Speaker 1:Oh damn, that's a good question, goodness gracious, okay, I got a perfect answer for you. I can answer this one, okay. So now, true story, no judgment, like legit. My mother-in-law has taken marriage advice from a woman, her friend, that I've been divorced for times and she won't listen to my wife even though we've been together 15 years. She won't listen to her daughter, but she'll go listen to her friend and her friend's giving her some crazy ass advice. Like just stay with him, just stay with him. The guy's like horrible fucking guy. I wanna go whip his ass. My wife's telling me don't work, don't my my own business. And she's like just stay with him, just stay with him Whatever. So this is what.
Speaker 1:There's so much information there On the internet, social media. Everybody got opinion, more, more content's being produced now, today, in the last five years, in the last 5,000 years, basically. So now this is what you gotta do. If I'm gonna go get information and I need a cipher what is good information versus bad information? First thing I do is I go like this what is the validity of the source or the individual? Like this guy's talent. I'm reading a book or I'm sitting right here on the corner this guy's telling me something about how to become an investor or how to create a McDonald's or how to become a good dad. I said what is the validity of the individual or source? This dude's a crackhead, that's not really. I'm talking about his or her character, just as a individual. So I say, what's the validity of the individual?
Speaker 1:If I could say, okay, this person's credible, then I go like this what is the validity of the subject that he or she is speaking on? Just because Michael Jordan said it? He may not be the expert at creating pop music, basketball. That's different. What is the validity of the individual? What is the number two? What's the validity of the subject he or she is speaking on? And Michael Jordan's talking about basketball? It's done, it's true. I don't care what he gonna say some crazy shit I don't agree with. I believe him. The third level's this Does it even make sense for me Just because MJ said it? Just because Donald Trump said it? Just because Oprah Winfrey said it? Does that even make sense for me, though? So if I could say, yes, this person's credible. Yes, this person is credible to speak on that subject. Yes, that actually does make a lot of sense. And number four what I do is I remove. You have to stand guard at the door of your mind. So if I could say yes, yes and yes, I remove myself and I let that information in and it's like a law Can't nobody tell me nothing about it. It's a fact.
Speaker 1:So I'm studying Billinaires Tillman Fratida it's one of my guys that I follow, one of my mentors. What's Tillman Fratida? He's a husband, been married decades. Children are doing really well. Okay, he's talking about business. I was talking about becoming a billionaire. He owns Houston Rockets, owns more restaurants than anybody in the whole world over 600 restaurants Masteros, bubba Gum, shrimp, joe's, crab Shack, et cetera. The shit he's talking about does that make yeah. So whatever he's saying about business, I'm like I don't have to filter it because I know it's real. So what you wanna do is you gotta stand guard at the door of your mind. The people that are very conscious, high think, high frequency, aware they're not taking bullshit from any source. You feel me? Okay, instagram is the worst. They'll say some bullshit and you'll see 100 comments. Man, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy. And they don't even know who that Instagram post is.
Speaker 2:And then, 24 hours later, like oh, it was a lie. Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1:I seen the documentary yesterday. It was this girl got kidnapped. I was watching my wife last night one o'clock in the morning and it's like one of the top movie documentaries right now. It's good, it's like American. I'm gonna send you a DM. And the girl got kidnapped and the whole media said it was a hoax. So everybody blew her up saying you piece of shit, you're horrible. And then they found out the killer and everybody started apologizing. Oh my God, but you gotta stand guard at the door of your mind.
Speaker 2:It's true. I think you have to stand guard for what you're seeing too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta stand, and what you're hearing is all like a system.
Speaker 2:You just have to stand guard period no that's real. You have to collect your energy. No 100%, because sometimes I don't watch the news anymore.
Speaker 1:Shit, I don't either.
Speaker 2:Like because.
Speaker 1:I don't either.
Speaker 2:Even like yesterday oh, they closed school. Oh, it's a big snowstorm Right right, fair mongering, and it's like it was a regular snow day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's how the media operates. When did you stop messing with the news?
Speaker 2:It's been a while now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's been a long time Since I think like COVID time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't listened to the news in a minute and you know it's like.
Speaker 2:But I still know the news. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Cause like but that's how the media, you know, that's how they operate. Yeah, so across street go hip hop. It's like I'm like fuck.
Speaker 2:And it's, even if I'm not watching it, somebody is telling me it, you know Right.
Speaker 1:And, then, and, and, and. You know I don't want to get too weird with the media shit, but the media's going to tell the like, the story, Like they're going to show up in document and the story's already written.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's scripted.
Speaker 1:It's a snowstorm state Bam the blizzard. It's scripted, that's what they do, that's what the media. I don't fuck with the media like that, I'm just saying. Except this media yeah yeah, yeah, come on the man has been has been.
Speaker 2:Is there any last words of encouragement you want to send out there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, 100%. So again, you know, I know this, this, this, this platform is to. You know, raise awareness and power. You know, create some sort of spark. And you know, like for real, for real, like I'm in session eight, baby two time. Felon Ain't nobody. I was like the last kid in my high school and if you go through some shit, congratulations. You're human, keep going. Okay, that's what the university awards and you know it's gonna. It starts with here, it starts with the words. You're going to have to add some skill set. You know Whoever's watching. Okay, your exact career's supposed to be. And if you want to change your situation, you just got to make a committed decision. Go, go find the girl, the guy that's doing what you want to do. Go tapping, go plug in, go watch their stories, go watch their YouTube, go. And it has to happen. It has to happen. You know I got my first lamb. I didn't even tell you about the material stuff. Let me see Lamb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got my shit. I must have bought like five lambos the last two years. Sheesh, trying to tell you it's weird.
Speaker 2:Look at my face.
Speaker 1:I don't look like shit. Look at my face, I don't look like shit. Wow, big flex. You know I don't buy more lamborghini than anyone's. San Diego, last two years, that's 100% fax, the last La Jolla lamborghini, Anyways. So now my first one.
Speaker 1:It's about five years ago and I asked my wife and I said could you believe this, diana? You know, one year we paid rent six months late. I used to hide in the closet with a landlord or a knock to come back of the check. I said, diana, could you believe it? We got a fucking lamborghini. She's like. She's looking at me like I'm crazy. She's like, yeah, look at all the work we've done. She's like, if this didn't happen, none of this would make sense. The game, the matrix, the universe, it snapped me. So you know, listen, ain't it about your zip code, ain't it about your last name. Anybody that want it can get it in a good way and you just gotta level up and most people ain't really willing to go through that, that change and that threshold to get that.
Speaker 1:I learned this from a mentor, russell Brunson. He had a billionaire company. He says Mike 90, he says 100% of people have desire. If I go down to Chinatown right down the street. What do you want, sir? I'm a genie. What do you want? I want to retire my mom. Boom, done, bang, man. What do you want? I want my kids to graduate from Harvard okay, done, boom. What do you want? I want to, you know, overlooking the Hudson boom. What do you want? I want to kind of like escalate stretch boom. 100% of people have desire and Russell Brunson says only two people have ambition. You know, to really have that.
Speaker 1:So you know, listen, y'all can have it, y'all can want it. This ain't no hocus pocus. You go read a book, tap into me, tap into Deja, whatever. Like go level up, get around. Here's one last thing I gotta say on that.
Speaker 1:The guaranteed way to success is personal development, as long as it's the right information. Me, it took me fucking what 15 years. That's the guaranteed way. The quickest way is proximity. Go get in the room Instead of reading oh Girl's book or our dude's book. Go like find them and actually connect with them at the networking joint, instead of, you know, going through somebody's course. Go like pull up on them. So I'll go meet some of my friends that, like my friends that are done 200 million in a year. I'll go sit down and do coffee in San Diego 30 minutes, I'll leave that meeting like fucking. I got like four degrees Proximity, proximity is power. So that's what.
Speaker 1:Whoever wanna come up, level up, do the development or get in the room, you gotta get in the room. And it's not enough to get in the room, you gotta stay in the room. Don't just go to connect with someone one time and don't go like, oh, oh, that guy's successful, oh, she's successful, Let me go. Let me go see what I can get. It don't work like that. Go get some value, go exchange. Stop trying to take from other fuckers. So that's what I gotta say about that.
Speaker 2:So many gems dropped.
Speaker 1:Come on now.
Speaker 2:So many gems dropped, like, yeah, I gotta watch this over and over, like to catch all those gems. So thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1:Thank you Appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was fun, I liked it.
Speaker 1:I learned a lot from you. No, that's super good yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you reached the end of another episode, I appreciate you. Shout out to you and telepathy, telepathy, telepathy, telepathy. Mother, that is mine over matter, baby Nice Yo.
Speaker 1:So how was it?
Speaker 2:That was amazing, thank you.