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Speaker 2:Welcome to Mind Over Matter baby. I'm your host, deja Wallace, and welcome to another episode. I have a lovely guest in the building. As you can see if you're on the youtube side of things, we got the lovely regine denise. Hi, thank you, gotta show me. This is a familiar face. If you've been watching, if you've been tuned in, this is a very familiar face it is right, yeah, so thank you again for joining me.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, it should be a good episode. We're gonna talk about self love. Yeah, the best, love the best. We're gonna talk about patience working on it we're gonna talk about your music I like that we're gonna talk about mindset. Yeah, you know we're gonna reel it all back in because it is mind over matter. Okay, so kick back, relax and let's get into this episode. Grab a snack, you know, let's get comfy and, yeah, let the people know a little bit more about you who I am.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I am Regine Denise. I am a songwriter. I sing on the side from time to time, but I'm really just a songwriter and, um, I'm just trying to be a good person in life and you know, do the will of God, that's really it Amen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really all you need to be honest. For real, yeah. So what's been happening? It's been two years since we saw each other. Yeah, we sat back down on the podcast and what's been?
Speaker 3:a few years since we saw each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we sat back down on the podcast, I know, and what's been happening, what's been going on?
Speaker 3:A lot has been happening. I think a lot more self-awareness has been happening and reflection and just growth on being a better person For sure, the past two years. Yeah, I'm definitely not that same person, which I'm happy about, Because that person she was kind of wilding. What's the?
Speaker 2:biggest change from the last time we spoke on the mic compared to now.
Speaker 3:Compared to now, the biggest change would be my relationship with God. Amen For a fact I've always had one, but I've come into the realness, like in a real way, of who he is to me and definitely solidified that for sure. Yeah, it's like everything else is just kind of falling into place because I'm aligning with him now versus on my own, because when I go my own way it never ends really good, it ends pretty bad. So, yeah, I think he's the biggest reason why I am where I am today.
Speaker 3:Sounds cliche, right, but it's really just it's, not, it's your truth no because you know, I say it all the time and it's just like it's so repetitive, but it's just the truth. So, yeah, it's him, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could attest to that too, since the last time we sat down here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've definitely, definitely grown in my relationship with God. I actually feel like I have an actual relationship outside of church, like I grew up in the church, but I never really felt like I had like a actual relationship with God. It felt more like routine. So a year ago I got baptized, so I could definitely attest to that, and life has just changed dramatically for me ever since I stepped out in faith and just trust God. Yeah, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 3:I want to touch on what you just said, though, about church, because I think people get that all jacked up like you gotta go to the building 9 am sunday school is. That's not what church is. The church is the body of christ. Who?
Speaker 2:the believers. I didn't even think it was going there this conversation. You know, that's what it is yeah it's called like the ecclesia when two or more are gathered god is in the midst.
Speaker 3:Yeah period, target walmart on the corner at a bodega you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and that's really what turns people away is when, like, people in the church kind of misuse their power, and that really turns a lot of people away from the church and it becomes kind of like theatrical. They're programmed, yeah, it's like a performance, like every Sunday.
Speaker 3:Every Sunday and on Tuesdays. You wouldn't think they was touching a quote-unquote church. You know what I mean, mm-hmm, like the lifestyle is not aligning with what y'all are doing every Sunday. Yeah, yeah, but hey, I'm not here to judge, I'm just saying what the word.
Speaker 2:We listen and we don't judge over here At all. Everybody know Because I'm a work in progress. Yeah, this is a topic I don't really speak about much on the podcast, so like For real, yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey, I don't know why. It's just like what.
Speaker 2:Is it the people you be having or what? Um, I'm breezed past it briefly, but I think it's more so like they don't want to get deep. Not that I think that it can come off as like a certain way and I don't really know a lot I'm still. I feel like, I'm still like yeah we're all learning.
Speaker 3:When will we ever come into the full realization of god for real? For real, like his ways are not our ways, so we're not going to understand, right? But some stuff is just like yeah, this is manmade and I'm not with this. This is religion. Jesus isn't religion, he's just who he is. You just follow his way or not. Even with the word Christianityianity, it bothers me because it's like it just makes me feel boxed. And jesus isn't in a box. You know, I mean, I just don't prefer to call myself a christian. I just say I'm a believer in jesus christ.
Speaker 2:Message no, it's glad to see that you're still in high spirits um, I'm trying well, well, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Well, what? No, I was kind of low maybe like 20 minutes ago. 20 minutes ago I ain't gonna front, but you was just in here chilling. I know that's called smiling, remember? We talked about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, I'm all right. Uh-huh, some stuff is kind of crumbling, but we keep going.
Speaker 2:Of course, that's the only way that's me being as honest as possible so, so far on your journey, what do you think is the biggest mental hurdle that you had to go get over to get to this point?
Speaker 3:um mental hurdle that you had to go get over to get to this point. Um mental hurdle um validation from people. Yeah, I was really bad with that. Like if people weren't validating me, I didn't feel like I was doing my best or enough, and and yeah, I've come to the realization that they really are a non-factor.
Speaker 2:It's funny because the last person I asked this question they said the same thing and that kind of reels it back into like the topic that I want to get into is self-love, right, right, you know, self-love kind of is the antidote to combating seeking validation from outside of yourself, right, and once I've stepped out, like on that journey of just like actively trying to be conscious of my thoughts and my actions and how that affects my reality, right, um, honestly, I've been able to like just accept myself more and like realize that like I'm doing this all from, like, my perception you know what I mean and people, everybody else is doing it from their perceptions and their thoughts and their internal dialogue and it's like, sometimes we aren't able to read.
Speaker 2:We're not able to read each other minds.
Speaker 3:At the end of the day, so it's like people are only perceiving us from what's going on up there right and some stuff be a little chaotic in their brain, so you never know what they might think exactly.
Speaker 2:So so it's like, yeah, self-love has really like helped combat caring what other people think, because it's like y'all don't even love yourselves and hey, I was there when I didn't have self-love, like finding myself in situations like yo, what do you love yourself?
Speaker 3:and and, and never really thought about it until, like, I hit rock bottom and then I had to reflect and like how did I get here? I didn't really show love to myself and that's like not me. Why am I not showing love to myself, being around certain people that are causing me to feel like that, allowing them to put this perception of who I am on me, and it's not even me see what I'm saying like, yeah, it's, it's like almost infectious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, when you're around people that try to distract you from remembering who you are and that could be so dangerous because then if you adopt that, it's like now you're moving away from that highest version of yourself. You know who you are at essence, who God says you are. Hello.
Speaker 3:He says I'm great. Exactly, you don't say that.
Speaker 2:Why am I rocking with you and you know, the thing that I always reel this back into Mind Over Matter is, like the reason that I created this platform is because sometimes I feel like speaking negatively is more accepted.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's less rebuttal most of the the time, but when you speak positively it's always a problem. It's everybody's like why he's questioning it. You know well why. And I kind of want to make positivity like normalize in a way. Yeah, because people even like have terms like toxic positivity that is so wild to me.
Speaker 3:That's like what? Why would you say that?
Speaker 2:yeah, and it's like they don't correlate exactly.
Speaker 3:It's like literally which one you choose words like they be trying to make their toxic ways be positive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're trying to normalize it's so sad toxicity. And then they say, oh no, you're being toxic.
Speaker 3:No, no, you got trauma, bruh, that you need to handle. Yeah, but they don't want to get to that root. It's always a root to something as to why people act the way they do. Right, what's your root?
Speaker 2:Start digging For real. Hey, what's the hoe? Is it a hoe, maybe? Okay, I don. What's the ho? What's like? Is it a ho, maybe?
Speaker 3:okay, I don't know, I'm not a gardener. Um what's, what does self-love look like for you? Um, self-love looks like to me getting rid of toxic positivity, people, because they're just not good.
Speaker 2:good, wait, what is toxic positivity to you?
Speaker 3:What we just said about people who have toxic ways and think that they're OK the way they are.
Speaker 2:But I think like toxic positivity is more like you know, people who walk around like always happy, always smiley, always like, oh, just be positive. That's what people think like toxic positivity. That's what people think like toxic positivity. That's what they think, yeah oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I thought they were just positive, like it's okay type deal, like I'm smiling, yeah, it's gonna be all right, but it's like a world, a word that has been normalized to like shut positive people up because, like I've been called, toxic positive yeah like okay, it's clicking now they oh no, that's, so sad what is wrong with people? I know. No, you're. I'd rather be that than freaking negative.
Speaker 3:Yeah dark cloud hanging over your head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, what? What does self-love look like?
Speaker 3:for you, self-love looks like um just being a positive person even when I want to be negative. Um, self-love is caring about who's in my circle. Self-love is what I put in my body like food wise. That's self-love. You know, I could go for a hoagie or something, but constantly reflection let's reflect what you know like just that's self-love. To me, self-love is um treating others the way I want to be treated. You know, like loving your neighbor as yourself. You know that's self-love. Um, yeah, that's basically it.
Speaker 2:Right, my definition yeah, I mean it's. Yeah, it's gonna look different for each of us, but what I started to realize recently too, is that self-love is not aesthetically pleasing for your instagram, oh oh, like the soft. Yeah, like the soft girl era of the side of things like you should just be soft.
Speaker 3:I don't know why that's an era. It should just be.
Speaker 2:We're soft, not like I'm soft, like yeah, but you know, they always trying to over generalize something like make it I hate social media yeah, but um yeah, sometimes when you are trying to speak positively about yourself and you're not used to that, it could be like an ugly process Mm-hmm, you know, real ugly yeah. And I feel like a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to love yourself when you've been hating on yourself for so long, for so long.
Speaker 3:That's really a process, mm-hmm. Going through the motions of it is a lot.
Speaker 2:it's called like the shadow work like really fighting demons.
Speaker 3:You were like yeah, people believe in angels and all that like, oh, like, guardian angels. Um, demons are real too. Hello, y'all be trying to be on demon time. Uh, maybe you should be on angel time, because demon time is really it's kind of scary. Yeah, with god I'm not, but it's scary.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, they be wilding what's like a common misconception you think people have about self-love, because mine is like that. Shit is ugly sometimes, not all cute and dainty, soft girl ever like I'm sorry, can you repeat the question? Oh, what's the common misconception thing people have about self-love misconception?
Speaker 3:about self-love. I would say they think that self-love means um giving up yourself for other people does that make sense?
Speaker 2:yes, but expand, but expand on it. Okay, elaborate.
Speaker 3:Okay, a woman will like be with a man who is literally no good, but they think that they're doing a good deed by staying with this man because that's the right thing to do, whether, like if they have kids or they've been in a relationship for a long time or he ain't got no job. I'm holding him down with my check's love and I'm showing love to him and through me. That's self-love, but it's not. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:of course, it's like you don't have any boundaries for yourself and just like being a yes person. Yeah, you're just being a yes person.
Speaker 3:That's not loving trying to please others yeah, that's, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's a thin line between that um and this is not bashing nobody, because again, oh no, the shoe fits the shoe fits.
Speaker 3:We know, I know. But you know how people be going like I think you know I'm just. I just want people to be better as I get better For sure, so do better Do better. When you know better, you do better. But a lot of people don't know. They are like literally in a fog of I'm straight, I ain't got nothing wrong with me, you're the problem. And people like that I have to walk away from because I might cut you out facts. Then I'm wrong, or am I?
Speaker 2:yes, no, yes, um, let's get into your music. Hey, how has your self-love journey been reflected in your music? Because you are a lover girl. I hear the rmb, I hear it, I hear it, I hear the new, I heard the new song hey, love me, go stream that.
Speaker 3:All streaming platforms. Uh yeah, my journey. Like when I wrote this song it's basically we heard the song it's about if you love me, show me. I'm very worthy and deserving of it. If you're not showing it to me, then I must move on. Why am I here If you're not giving me the things that I want or need? I have to go.
Speaker 2:That ties back into what you said. Sometimes a lot of females they be seeking validation from men and thinking that's self-love.
Speaker 3:It's so crazy, it's really bad. Yeah Pikmishas, oh Pikmishas, that's what they call them, I was about to say a story but about this girl. I know she probably going to watch it because she is a supporter, but I ain't going to say it. All right, don't say it.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I'm not, but yeah, we'll talk about it later. Don't make it hot. Yeah, it's kind of hot, but um, yeah, do you think, like, how do you think the state of rmb is right now toxic? But you think that's like a reflection of, like, who the people are? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, I was at that stage in society yes, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3:I was at that stage, like I wrote this song called october's heartbreak and the the chorus is literally that's why I'll never fall in love again, because I was so hurt in october that I don't want to be in love no more. That's really negative and it showed. It showed in the music. Now it's like this song is not negative, it's pretty positive. If you love me, show me, or I gotta dip.
Speaker 2:Simple to the point, straight to the point the beat fire, you know a little bounce. Hey, it is good times yeah, you could do a little wine to that too, okay okay no you was whining in jamaica um, it was a pretty chill trip. I wasn't doing much whining this time around like that. Yeah, we didn't do much whining. No, maybe next time, yeah, maybe next time more peaceful, very healing, very relaxing serene that's beautiful it was the first time like I experienced it like that.
Speaker 2:Usually I do be like whining and hey, see something different. Yeah, you know it's like growing up. I'm like, wow, how did? You know Growing up, tell me off, cause like it's the first trip. Like I'm wait, how old am I now? Yeah, you ain't got it before. That's it what do you? Mean.
Speaker 3:I was two years younger I know, wow, you have a birthday next week. Yeah, I know. Yeah, my birthday is coming. I'm not saying it on camera.
Speaker 2:Big no, I'm not going to do that to you.
Speaker 3:I'll be no, I was about to get the no Later. Anyway, love me, go stream on all streaming platforms, did you?
Speaker 2:like the song for real, though. No, I did, you did. Yeah, I listened to it this morning, thank you, I was doing my research yes, because you have to research me because I'm one of your guests.
Speaker 3:Yes, ma'am, yeah, love me. That was. I haven't released a song since last september and that song was called champion. That was about just oh yeah, I heard that one pushing past the pain and all that and you're a champion, yeah, so that was kind of poppy, a pop song, do?
Speaker 2:you kind of miss this how r&b used to be. Do you think it's ever gonna get back to that? I? Do you think it's gonna get back to that?
Speaker 3:I don't know, uh well, maybe it will, I think, if summer walker keep making records like heart of a woman, if she stay in that pocket um heart of the heart of a woman was good yeah, that's like brandy yeah never said, never, yeah, I was like summer, that's you. That's what I'm saying. I love summer. Yeah, if she stay in pocket, because she's like leading the new school as far as. R&b goes Coco Jones. I rock with her. I didn't really listen to the new album, but yeah.
Speaker 2:What about Ari Lennox?
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I don't know what's going on with her, because I know she just left, dreamville right.
Speaker 2:She dropped a new song called Soft Girl Era, which is ironic, because do you like it?
Speaker 3:it's cool, it's cool yeah, yeah, I think she's a talented singer. I think she just needs the right people behind her to push her, because dreamville wasn't doing that, so she ain't really been pushed since. Like that, um, break me off, what is that? It's a that. Yeah, and that was how many years ago? That's a problem. What is what is the label doing? Not the right thing? Yeah, but she's great. Yeah, she could bring it back too. She, yeah, she need a better team. And then she, good, yeah. Do you listen to mariah the scientist? Do you like her? Do you think she's toxic? Be honest toxic?
Speaker 2:not really, you don't. I think she's relatable for a younger woman what are the younger women relating? I don't, I don't I don't think she's toxic, though no, maybe I think summer-mm I think Summer's more toxic than her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Her older stuff. I thought they were kind of in the same boat though.
Speaker 2:And like Tink, I just feel like Mariah be popping her shit. She just be like, yeah, I'm her, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, what's that blue song that blue, whatever you know that song by that blue song that blue, whatever you know that song by her? Yeah, no, I don't know the name. I have to re-listen, okay, don't quote me on this.
Speaker 2:They're quoting. Don't quote her anyway, but yeah, damn what I was about to say, um r&b coming back, yeah, so how has your music evolved over time, over time? Uh, how has your music evolved over time?
Speaker 3:Over time, like I said, I was singing about heartbreak all the time. Now I'm more at a space where it's like I can avoid the heartbreak because I can identify flags. I used to see the flags and just be like, oh no, they're yellow, oh, that's not red, that's orange. And then you get a sad song from me. So over time I definitely because obviously music is experience right I write what I feel and what I'm going through in life and I do find myself writing less sad songs these days because I'm not in a bad space oh, and it's all it ain't me, it's him aligning myself and I'm happy about that because I'm like, all right, I'm about to be 30.
Speaker 3:Uh, I said it oh, she said it. Hey, I think she's gonna do that with the three and the oh, but hey, 30, I don't want to be doing the stuff I was doing when I was 27 or 21. That's wild. Could you imagine doing the same thing you was doing at 21? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine doing the same thing I was doing last month.
Speaker 3:Hello, we're ever evolving, yeah. And if you stuck in the same mindset? Like that's a problem, Respectfully Facts. So that's just not what I want for my life. So you got to grow up it one day, yeah. Not to say 30 is like I't know I don't know.
Speaker 2:I do feel like calling everything old. I've been called old, that's why I just be like who the yans, they be calling you.
Speaker 3:Are you considered a yan? Are you in that era?
Speaker 2:oh ym. Yeah, no, I'm not a young nigga well I'm a real, nigga, I am a real nigga hey, what's up, what's up.
Speaker 3:But no, there is like a gender, because somebody was telling me like yn, they consider females, that too I've never heard a female called the yn, they, they call little little boys with the pooch well, yeah, but some of these girls be acting like some YNs, do you not agree? I could agree. Yeah, it's different, yeah Not to say well, are we in the same?
Speaker 2:era Semi kind of Close enough. I guess I still understand what you're saying. What generation are you? They say I'm Gen Z, but I don't know. I don't know I don't know Some people be saying I'm millennial still.
Speaker 3:I don't really know. I just know that I was around when B2K was like lit Do you remember that era?
Speaker 2:I know who B2K is, baby. The Pandemonium album, justin Timberlake oh no, that's Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Damn what.
Speaker 2:No, all right, you're not with me.
Speaker 3:All right, forget it, forget it, but okay, but that is. Yeah, justin Timberlake was Justified that's the name of the album I think you're talking about but he was with them. No, he was with Backstreet.
Speaker 2:Boys right, that's not B2K, but they're same shit, different toilet. Leave me alone.
Speaker 3:Hey, we love you, love you, but um, yeah, the generation is just totally different. Yeah, bunch of YNs, but yeah, it's YNs, big Bro, and then Unc, and I think that's just the levels of how it go yeah and Auntie, maybe I'm an auntie now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could be auntie. Well, I got three nephews, so I'm not yn, though, okay, I'm yeah you are in.
Speaker 3:Hey, love me out now. Stream on all platforms because it's really a good song. It's like a summer bopper. I feel like your eye would top down and just like.
Speaker 2:What would the soundtrack to your life be right now?
Speaker 3:Right now, yeah, like an album let's do a song. Okay, a song right now. I was about to say uh, mary j blige, but no, just fine, that's so cliche, because I am just fine. I am fine, I mean I got. Obviously I still go through stuff. Uh-huh, because I'm human. Like I said, I was um, not crashing out 20 minutes ago, but a little borderline maybe. Nah, I ain't gonna, I'm past crashing out, so it's, it's what mary j blige just fine, just fine, okay you know how I do the line dance, do you line dance so?
Speaker 1:you are a yn.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just playing. I'm not a YN.
Speaker 2:No, you're not. You're not. Stop telling the people that.
Speaker 3:She's an auntie.
Speaker 2:I'm not a young nigga, All right so Not a young. Okay, what? This is a juicy one. So I know that you've been in this game for a while now. A little minute, a good minute, yeah, how are you keeping? Just not being not rushing the process.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, because this is a marathon oh my gosh, yes, like they say yes, and it's funny. You said that because I was just talking to a friend about that Marathons and staying the course, running the race. It's very difficult, especially being an independent artist. It's very. It's hard, that's all I can really say. But persistence being steadfast, unmovable, because you know in the end you're gonna win. But you have to go that journey and it's like why?
Speaker 3:I gotta go to journey why can't just be like boom, here it is, you won you won't appreciate it.
Speaker 2:I know, oh my gosh I know, but yeah, so how do you like stay grounded and not too fixated on like the results of everything? I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't follow social media. Okay, I'm surprised. I told you about all those artists that I just named, because I really don't listen to them. I listen here and there, but if I know of them yeah, because I have to be in the know.
Speaker 3:But I don't fixate on them because then I'm going to feel like I'm not doing enough. I'm not where they are, their, their race is not mine I'm. We're two different lanes here, so I don't pay attention to them and that helps me to stay grounded because it makes me feel like I'm just in my own space and the people that appreciate it will appreciate it, you know. So that definitely helps. Social media sucks. I really do hate it. I hate that I even have to use it to promote music. I wish we was back in the day like Motown. Why do you hate it? Because it's just like everybody has a platform, everybody does music now, everybody. You know what I'm saying and a lot of the music doesn't resonate with me personally and I feel like the essence of true musicality is drifting because of social media and, like I said, it's not like back in the day. You hear like a doo-wop group on the street corner of a barbershop.
Speaker 1:And they killing it right.
Speaker 3:And then there's like some random A&R from Motown. It's like I'm going to sign you guys that type deal. Everybody's getting signed. Now that's true, yeah, facts Legit.
Speaker 2:So you know, I just like the oversaturation of everything. You know, I just um like the oversaturation of everything. I think I have a love hate relationship with it. But we wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for social media I know which you know it has its ups right, but a lot of dance yeah, I mean, when it comes to like producing, I think that's the best thing to do with it what just like producing and not be as much as a consumer, because when it comes to like scrolling, that's when I feel like it becomes a problem, addicting, you know I hate to scroll what's.
Speaker 3:What's your uh average time on your phone? Do you look at that number? I don't know?
Speaker 2:ah, I used to, but now it's like I don't even care, you're just gonna be on your phone, yeah because it's like, at the end of the day, the day gotta end, you feel me.
Speaker 3:I like that. You should put that in a fortune cookie you should make fortune cookies.
Speaker 2:I should that should be fire hey, I want to make. I want to make like you know, know, like.
Speaker 3:Little pink ones.
Speaker 2:You know the teas With. Like the little message on there Little tea. Like a tea bag the teas, like the tea bags, and it has like a little message on there.
Speaker 3:I've never seen those Like on the tag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, on the tag no. What kind of tea do you drink? Um, I don't remember the name of it. Okay, so um.
Speaker 3:I'm listening.
Speaker 2:I want to get into like, really back into like love self self love yeah, it's the best.
Speaker 3:It's the best.
Speaker 2:Self love it's the best it's the best, it is alright. So what does the statement mind over matter mean to you?
Speaker 3:With my mind, I can do a lot that matters.
Speaker 2:Okay, we keeping it short and cute.
Speaker 3:That's fire, though right it does. It's cute I get it. Yeah, that's all I got to say. All right, for real. No, your mind, the mind is a terrible thing to waste, ain't it? It is? That's a quote from somewhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't want to waste my mind Because I got a lot to do and I don't want to waste my mind because I got a lot to do what's like a limiting belief that you recently had to retell yourself to change your reality right now that there is life and death in the tongue.
Speaker 3:Whatever you speak, it can happen, whether it's negative or positive.
Speaker 2:So I'm very much so aware now of what I say because I'll be ready to be like I can't, don't no difference and, yeah, um, language is very powerful, so I'm just mindful of that a lot, yeah, these days definitely what's, uh, the most memorable time in your memorable time in your life that you spoke in your reality into existence that I spoke it into existence well, I said you were gonna do something, and then it actually happened, even if it's like in prayer and you're like, oh my god oh well, my relationship with with god, like I've been praying about that, I've been fasting about that, I've been like surrendering, giving myself away for that, and I'm like living in it right now and I'm just thankful.
Speaker 3:And it's crazy how it was like a, it was like a switch, like night and day, legit, and like I always heard about it. But to actually experience it and live it is like a whole, nother thing. I'm literally living in his will. And the answer prayers, yeah, and some of the prayers they haven't been answered as of yet, but a lot of them have, so I can't even trip off the one.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, because you know it's just his.
Speaker 3:I know he don't work in our time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, At all. Yeah, so you have to be patient and give yourself grace. It's a virtue, it is. Yeah, prayer has changed my life yes. It's times where, like, I'm constantly praying about the same thing and sometimes I'm so fixated on what I don't have in these prayers, yeah, and you gotta block that out. Yeah, and then it kind of takes away from, like, the prayers that he did answer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know I know being grateful, exactly like we be kind of selfish and it's like a human trait. We, we are human, right, we're not robots, and he knows that. That's why he died on the cross, like he knew we're not perfect. So obviously these thoughts will come into your mind, but you have to revert back and be like, okay, he has me. You be like that's the devil, it is. It is Facts. I'm telling you they believe in angels but don't believe in demons. Like, come on, bruh, there is good and bad, so let's not be oblivious. But yeah, he has us in his hand, legit. You know, I do sound like a broken record when I say it too.
Speaker 2:But I really don't care no more it is the truth.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, not sorry. That was good, this is so good.
Speaker 2:You see this like from our last talk, not to say we were bad people, we were drinking we was off the barefoot, we was cackling, we was talking about R Kelly and shit, like we was. Like I still Don't bring, let me not bring that up, don't they gonna eat you up in them? Comments Do not bring that back up.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay okay okay, how has your creativity been a healing force in your life?
Speaker 3:oh, the music writing. Oh my gosh that's therapeutic for me, that's. It's literally my life and I can't even control it because I I try to stop sometimes doing music, but it's like, it's like embedded. Yeah, it's like almost like an outlet, right, it's an outlet, but like, it's like a thing I can't control, even if I wanted to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's literally my god-given thing everybody has yeah everybody has their thing and it's like I wish my thing was nursing. I would go to school in a minute. You'll make a good amount of money. That's not, I know, it's not my thing. I don't want to draw blood, I really don't. I would rather just write songs. But um, the things that make me don't want to write a song is the, the patience and the, the waiting. That's the part that makes me like, oh my gosh, but I know in the end it'll, it'll work out.
Speaker 2:Patience damn, I had a question that went away um I saw it just went in the air.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got it. Okay, I'm when pursuing your purpose, your path.
Speaker 2:uh-huh, your calling what? Your purpose, your path, your calling. What was the pivotal moment in your career where you were like, yeah, this is what I need to be doing, that I need to be doing it. Like this is like I'm in alignment, like what was that moment in your musical career where you're like, yes, this makes sense, this makes sense.
Speaker 3:I would say oh yeah, murkel, shout out, murkel. Murkel is this artist. He's a friend of mine, a dear friend of mine. Um, he came to buffalo because you know I'm yeah, y'all know well, shout out. Hey, don't do that.
Speaker 2:No, shout out Buffalo for real.
Speaker 3:Eastside Buffalo Wings.
Speaker 2:All of it, rick James, the Bills right.
Speaker 3:Westside Benny. Okay, anyway, murkel, he came to Buffalo, he's an artist, he's a vocal producer, writer, singer. We worked together in January. We were working on this record that I wrote, and it just seems like the whole process just fell seamlessly. I ain't never had that happen before, not with another person. Normally it's always like some back and forth, but with him it was just no resistance yeah, and it was just like this is what I'm destined to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't I really can't control this, and it's just like I thank God every day that he gave me this talent. And, yeah, that was the time when I was like, yeah, this is it, this is it. So now it's just been like feet running ever since yeah Dropped the single. So much love and response Like this is something in my throat, it's clear. Okay, so much love and just appreciation for the record, which meant a lot, because this was the first record that I've released where I felt free and not restricted and loving myself again in a real way, so that meant a lot that the response just was really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I love about being a creative. You go to these places where you just go in this what they call the flow state, that the response just was really good. Yeah, that's what I love about like being a creative. Like you go to these places where you just go in this what they call like the flow state, yeah, and it's like everything is just in alignment and you just flow in and it's like yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like this is like therapy, almost it is, you know.
Speaker 3:But then it is you know but then, like last always, this too shall pass all right whatever, whatever, no, that's fact.
Speaker 2:So what she said?
Speaker 3:out, it's gonna let it all work out let it all work out.
Speaker 1:Let it all work out, all, let it all work out All right.
Speaker 2:Shout out Lil Wayne. Shout out Lil Wayne. If you listened to the end of this episode, thank you, I appreciate you Really came back to listen all the way to the end. Like I could tell you love yourself, I could tell you glowing, like I could tell and yeah, make sure you tell a friend and tell a friend that it's mind over matter, baby, you got crap. Tell a friend to tell a friend that it's mind over matter, baby, you, you, you, crap, boom. I mean like why you had me say that. Right, boop, boop, boop. All right, that was calm, that was nice, yeah.