Ep 275: The Kentucky-4 Congressional Race with Jeremy Todd

In this episode I talk with Jeremy Todd, the Libertarian candidate for Congress in Kentucky’s 4th district. Todd talks about his decision to run, his opponent and the GOP establishment, and his campaign. Todd believes that Massie represented a principled, America-first agenda and that foreign lobbyists bought his seat in Kentucky. He explains how the GOP candidate Ed Gallrein is a political opportunist who doesn’t care about the people of KY-4 and why he would not represent us in Congress. Todd argues that Massie was right about never-ending debt, government spending, and the warfare state, and would spend his time in Washington trying to restore fiscal sanity and a truly America-first foreign policy. He would also fight against government surveillance, CBDCs, and the proliferation of data centers which will be weaponized against the American people. Support his campaign by following the links below:

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

This is the Protestant Libertarian Podcast, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute and part of the Christians for Liberty Network. I really hope that you guys enjoy today's show. All right, guys, welcome to another episode of the Protestant Libertarian Podcast. Here in studio with me today is the great Jeremy Todd. He's going to talk about his campaign today. A lot of you guys know who he is from Twitter. He's a great guy, but before we get started today, just tell my audience a little bit about yourself.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Sure. My name's Jeremy Todd. I live here in the same city as Alex. We are both uh proud to be from the city of Independence uh here in Kentucky. And uh yeah, uh that's me. Uh born and raised in uh in the South in uh Alabama. Uh moved here to uh be close to my wife's family and uh have a five-year-old son. And that's uh uh what I tell people about me is I'm remarkably unremarkable. I'm just sure I would blend into any crowd anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

So last month, well, I guess not last month at this point. We're at the beginning of July. So at the end of May, you made a very insane decision to run for Congress, and not like state Congress, but like Congress Congress. Um, so what led you to that decision to run for Congress?

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Well, it for me, what happened in our backyard right here, I don't think is something that a republic can survive ultimately. That uh in a primary with one of America's most popular congressmen, $25, $30 million is spent by foreign lobbies, and they are foreign, um, to supplant him and uh against what would be the will of the nation. And the way that they did it was not by advocating for themselves as a foreign lobby. They did it by duping our grandparents and the people who watch Fox News. They ran uh ads that were just straight up lies, uh, like the girls in uh the the transgender uh in in girls' sports, total lie, uh, lies about the Save Act, lies on all sorts of things, and then uh ran AI ads of him having a threesome, and these are reality, like real-looking ads of him having a threesome with AOC and Ilhan Omar, all to trick and again, none of these are advocating for this foreign country who these lobbies are here to support. They just want to unseat him with $30 million, and that is not something that a Republican survive. And so uh I decided to do this because one the Kentucky laws make it very restrictive on who can run. Right. Um, you can only run for the party that you are registered as on January 1st of that year. So any Republican can't run. Any independent, unless they run as an independent, can't run. And so it's just a small segment of people who are registered libertarians with the state who are eligible to run. And the moment came where you know we finally realized that Massey was maybe not gonna win. Um, and so we decided on the fly, like, okay, let's do this. And we got to his rally to start collecting signatures that night. I got there while he was still speaking, and what he said is why I'm doing this. Uh, I was I I didn't do this on purpose. I was just doing an election and it turned into a um a movement. And this movement is incredibly important. It is the last sort of movement. It is the continuation of the Ron Paul movement, but without Thomas Massey or someone like that on the forefront in politics, where does this go? You know, who swallows it alive? And so I had to run so that this group of people who believe what you and I believe, who are passionate about freedom and liberty and uh, you know, uh libertarian politics, that that doesn't slowly become Ed Galrain fans over the next six months while they run ads to one soften him and two try to be like, well, yeah, I mean, I know you don't like him, but the Democrats, right? Like, we know what that play is gonna be. And this is our line in the sand. You spent $30 million to unseat our guy, our one guy. So, no, you have to pay. It's carrots and sticks. We will play along, we will support people like Thomas Massey. When you run people candidates like that, we we we didn't run a candidate in this district as libertarians for over a decade. Yeah. Why? Because you got our guy. And as long as you do that, we will sit quietly and happily on the sidelines. But if you want to do this, now no more carrots. Now it's time for sticks.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yeah. What was it about Thomas Massey that you think really angered the GOP establishment? Because, I mean, again, he had he had won what 10 10 uh elections in a row in northern Kentucky. He's a very popular congressman, the most principled Republican in Congress. And honestly, if Congress was full of people like Thomas Massey, there would be no need for a Libertarian Party whatsoever. Like he he was he was a great, I mean, he was a great, he's what we want Republicans to be. So why did the establishment have such a problem with Thomas Massey?

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Well, I don't, I think, well, one is that he actually has like he does, he does the things that they campaign on. And that's inconvenient for them because they uh while they campaign on them, they are paid behind the scenes by people to do other things. And so it becomes very expensive for them to hold to their uh principles, right? Um, and most people go to Washington to make money, most people go for status, to they they don't go to actually help and change the country, or they go with a little bit of spirit and then are quickly converted. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, people go along to get along. The uh reason they hate Thomas Massey is one that they couldn't do that to him. He was not some, he he went, he was very successful beforehand. He's a man who married his high school sweetheart, has a big family, he believes what he believes in, and you weren't gonna shake him from it. Like he was one of the few who would stand up to the party. And the even JD Vance said it recently the re the problem with Thomas Massey, or before the campaign, I guess, the problem with Thomas Massey is when we need him for a vote. Well, yeah, your vote sucks, JD. Your bill is terrible, okay? The Democrats oppose it because it's that it's bad for them, but Massey opposes it because it's bad for us, you know, and so your bill is terrible, but everybody's like, well, we got to get something passed, or it's bad politically. Who cares? At this point, we're $40 trillion in debt. Anyways, he was um he was always a bigger thorn in Trump's side. And I think at certain points they've had a decent relationship because uh when Trump would try to build a coalition for an election, he realized like I need Massey's King to vote for me. Um, but here's the reality: Donald Trump spent his entire life as a Democrat in the biggest city in the world. He is a New York Democrat. He is buddy buddy with AOC. He cut checks to Kamala Harris, to the Clinton Foundation. He was happily a Democrat his entire life. He's not only a Democrat, he's a Democrat that puts his name in gold letters on the side of skyscrapers and that he doesn't own, by the way. Um, and and this is the guy that somehow duped the right wing of America that he's one of them. He's not. So when Massey would oppose all of his bills and policies because he's not a conservative, he's just copy and pasting Democrat spending bills, um, it drew the ire. Now, here's the problem. Even here, Trump never had the pull to unseat Massey. He tried it several times in 2020 after the COVID uh bill and Massey standing up to stop that. He he slaughtered uh an attorney here uh and then Trump Metaphorically metaphorically. Right. I mean, just embarrassed him in the primaries, then he embarrassed a not attorney uh in the next one, um, who was disbarred. And uh and then the difference in this one is he's he he pushed for the release of the Epstein files, and then he pushed against the war in Iran. And those two things upset the Israel lobby, and he's never taken a dime of their money. And so that lobby through uh a couple billionaires that are well connected to Trump, through the Republican Jewish coalition, and then a few other things that are APAC, that APAC has now rebranded themselves as because they're toxic, the $30 million was the difference. That's what changed this time. Ed might actually be a worse candidate than the two guys that that uh that uh that Massey just completely beat uh previously. But in all the $30 million was the difference. And that difference was because he opposed uh foreign aid and uh especially the Israel lobby.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yeah. Well, what's really interesting about that dynamic, too, is that in 2024, both you and I supported Chase Oliver, the Libertarian Party candidate. Now, we we live in Kentucky, so obviously our vote doesn't matter. Trump was gonna win the state no matter what. Right. But it's very easy to vote for Chase Oliver because he's great on war and great on Fed, everything that we cared about as a libertarian. But uh from a libertarian perspective, Trump talked a big game during his campaign. And he he settled, he he made a lot of policy points that Thomas Massey has been consistently running on for his entire career. And then, of course, he's completely reversed course since he's been elected. Uh, and he he chooses Ed Galrain as his heir apparent for Thomas Massey. Well, like uh Ed Galrain to me was not a very impressive figure. No. Uh, why do you think he picked Ed Galrain and what does Galrain's campaign represent?

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Because Ed Galrain desperately wants to be in this circle. Um, and he was willing to. If you recall, it took months for them to find an opponent for Macsey, right? Trump, Trump had to put out like five, six different true socials. Anyone willing to run, can anybody run against this terrible congressman, right? And nobody stepped up to it because they know he was America's most popular. But this guy, Ed Gowrain, who lost uh a state senate primary previously, was like, okay, I'll do it. I I'm so desperate to be a part of this inner circle. And what's funny about it is Ed probably hates Donald Trump deep down. Like he is Ed is playing, Ed left the party when Trump was elected in 2016. Ed became an independent. And then only after Joe Biden beat Donald Trump did he come back. And what's what's so infuriating to me about the, and this is why I don't do the Republican Party. Like, Libertarian Party has its own issues. Don't get me started there. But these the the these people are such opportunists, and like Joe Biden was so terrible that like it made people who previously hated Donald Trump go, okay, maybe we need to like rally around this guy that we hate. And so what's funny is Trump is just such a fragile ego person. If you just pet his ego a little bit, like he loves you. And so all of that's how all these never Trumpers got in. And then, you know, $250 million from Miriam Adelson helps. Um, who you listen to. But nonetheless, uh, I think I think that's why Ed decided to jump into this race, is he's an opportunist. He wants so desperately to be in this circle. Um, he wants so desperately to be in politics and to be likes. And really, we know what he's he's already said what he's gonna do. He's gonna go give his voter card to Mike Johnson and say, vote however the establishment wants me to. And then I'm gonna go do insider trading. I'm gonna go, you know, rub elbows with lobbyists and try to get rich. He's going to do the he's going to be the Mitch McConnell of Congress, except with no power just in the background. Right. That's what he hopes to do. Uh, he doesn't care about the people of Kentucky. Otherwise, he would actually go out and like debate or hold events with more than five people at them. But he's not interested in uh in what the people of Kentucky have to say. And now, even worse, this man's in $25 million of debt. You know, if a constituent calls Ed's cell phone, he's gonna it's gonna go to voicemail. Right. Miriam Adelson calls that phone, he's answering saying, Yes, ma'am, what do you need from me?

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Right, absolutely, absolutely. Well, the the really interesting thing about the Republican Party right now is that there is really a civil war going on in the right between what I label the establishment camp and then kind of like the Thomas Massey actual America First camp. And the reality with Kentucky 4 is that even a lot of the the older people that voted for Donald Trump, they voted for Donald Trump because they represent their because he represents their political party. A lot of that was devoid of any sort of policy platforms. And what I find really interesting is when I actually talk to people that are in that age demographic about policy, they actually agree with all of Thomas Massey's policy, but they were swayed by the campaign. Now, the I think the younger Republicans, they're starting to wake up to the fact that the establishment doesn't care about their values. And there are a lot of younger Republicans that are very upset about what happened to Thomas Massey. And you can look at the exit polling like this isn't this is an empirical fact. Um so I want I want to kind of I want to demythologize the whole, you know, uh Republican establishment, we're voting for our team kind of thing, and actually actually talk about the policies that you would support if you were elected to Congress. Because I think that once we get past the whole team aspect of this, what really matters is what are you going to do when you get there? So talk about your your policy platforms, what matters to you, uh, and then why it should matter to the American people and in particular the the residents of Kentucky 4.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Sure. Well, the biggest issue that uh Americans in Kentucky 4 are saying uh but um it's an American problem is affordability. Um people who have you know, I I saw a stat that said uh 25% of baby boomers have a second home, um, whether that's an investment property, a vacation home, or something like that. Wow, and uh the way you really upset baby boomers is ask them how their grandkids are doing, right? It's like, well, they've got five roommates and uh, you know, they can't uh find a job that pays, and they're on their fifth round of interviews for a job that pays $40,000 a year. So um the it's basically the the country has gone downhill since the peak of uh boomerism in the last 30 years. Now that's not to say like uh, you know, all boomers are bad, but they have been in control of the country for 30 years, and in those 30 years, we've amassed $35 trillion in debt. That's that's an Amazon warehouse full of hundred dollar bills that we will never be able to pay back. Well, all of that money essentially had to either be borrowed or printed. So we're either paying interest on it or it's devaluing our currency that we currently have. And the last people to benefit from the printing of money are the youngest and the employed. Um, and so those who hold jobs, they don't hold assets, right? Because those assets appreciate when you print money uh automatically. But uh those who don't have stocks, those who don't have property, those who are just starting out, and that's why it's impossible for Gen Z to buy a home right now. They're they're uh $60,000 in debt because you told them to take it on to go to you know college. Right. They're trying to get a job that pays $40,000 a year, and the median, like median starter homes are $350,000, $400,000. It's uh it's unbelievable. So, anyways, the the biggest thing is we've got to get wages up and we've got to figure out how to make things more affordable. Well, number one, you know just as well as I do that from the Austrian perspective, spending is the tax, period. Like there is no way to run away from spending. You can't spend money as the government and end up having it not impact the people, right? In some way, shape, form, or fashion. You are even if you're not paying it, even if your taxes went down, you are still paying for it somehow. That money has to be solved somehow. So the question then is well, if we've got to, and I'm not talking about reducing deficits. We have to reduce spending, it has to go in the other direction. We have to spend less next year than we'd had the previous year. We 2020, we gave everybody kind of a uh a grace card and said, okay, record spending. Donald Trump signs the big, and of course, Massey opposed it, but um, we send the biggest spending bill in the history of the world. And everybody said, we just have to do it because of a pandemic. We'll go back to normal spending levels. Well, guess what? It's 2026, and we have only gone up every single year. We have to cut spending across the board. Um, and that starts with our foreign entanglements and the the military. It begins with entitlements. We have to have uncomfortable conversations about social security. If if if Americans, here's the thing if you want to keep Social Security, you better have uncomfortable conversations about it because that bill's coming due. Yeah. That it's it's just a simple dollars and cents issue right now. Um and uh and so it's about how all of this debt has essentially made it unaffordable for people. So, what are some strategies we can do to get wages up? Uh, I I proposed one the other day that I heard that I really like, which is um if we work with corporations on, hey, if you have the more employees you have and the higher their average wages, or maybe even you track it by median wage or something like that, you get you get tax breaks for that. Yeah, right. Like paying American, uh paying Americans, not AI, paying Americans salaries and paying them better salaries is something that the federal government can help benefit corporations so that the corporations who pay their people the best are the ones who get the biggest tax breaks and uh most success. I think most people would be on board with something like that. Now, I don't like taxes, I think they should all go away, right? Taxation We live in the real world though, but yeah, but we got to deal with 2026 America, right? Um, and so it's things like that, tackling the affordability issue for people and uh putting more money back into the pockets of Americans and figuring out how to solve our debt. There's some uncomfortable conversations that have to be around paying that debt. Um I think one of the when you are in debt, I don't know if you've ever been in debt, people, but uh in my early 20s, I was in debt and uh I had to sell some stuff. I had to go to the pawn shop, right? Like sold NiPad or uh I saw your Paul Reed Smith over there, right? Like I have sold uh, you know, a uh Les Paul before to pay your debts and to keep your head above water. America's sitting on a bunch of assets right now. A bunch of assets. We have a ton of land, um, and there's a desperate need to uh build housing. And I'm not talking about so before anybody comes at me, like I'm not talking about your national parks. I'm not trying to, you know, build condos where you go hiking. That's not what I'm saying. Everybody chill out. But there's a ton of land that America owns that is just sitting there. And if it were sold and the money were went exclusively to reducing the debt, if we could take the debt from 40 trillion back to 35 trillion, and that that's a good thing. Like now, you're it's kind of like paying down a credit card bill, but not fixing the problem. But we have to fix all these problems. But there are uncomfortable conversations about the assets we need to sell in order to pay down the debt. Um, but those are things that uh, you know, uh are sort of pipe dream, hopeful things, but we we've got to get living more affordable. Uh the second thing to keep living more affordable is we gotta stop doing this stupid wars. All right, guys, it's not 1940 anymore. Wars are not won. Nobody wins. You just lose less than the other guy, okay? But you're still losing. Did we what did we win in Iran? What did we win in Iraq? What did we win in Afghanistan? We spent trillions of dollars, thousands of our best men's lives, tens of thousands of them who came home and put a gun in their mouth, right? Um, and all for what? To turn Afghanistan over from the Taliban to the Taliban. Right. And then all we did was give them weapons in the meantime. And we cut, we were up until a couple weeks ago, we were still cutting the Taliban a check every month. Um, it's insane. We have to stop this. We have to we have to close a lot of our bases, we need to bring our troops home, we need to reduce the size of the military. As Ron Paul said, you can defend this country with a couple good submarines. We have giant oceans in between us, we have great allies on both borders who are extremely interested uh in our well-being. And we have all the natural resources here, essentially, that we need if we would invest in it domestically. Let's stop all this military imperialism. Who cares who is in charge of Iran? It's not us. They can't touch it, and everybody's like, well, they can't get a nuke. Why the hell not? Pakistan's got one, North Korea's got one, and you know what they can't do? Touch us. Because we have giant oceans in between us, right? They are not capable of it. Really, the only country who's capable of it is Russia, and ultimately, like, they still have to go over Canada to get to us, right? So we are not threatened by these countries. Yet we go and spend our treasure and our blood to fight it. So we gotta stop doing the stupid war. And that was one of the things that Trump ran on that won the libertarian and the massy vote was no new wars. We're not going to do this anymore. Um, bring our freaking troops home, man. Let them live here with their families, let them go and defend our borders and our country. Um, and then the last thing is if we want to save this republic, like I mentioned earlier, we've got to get foreign lobbies out of politics. Period. That's why we get in these stupid wars. We've got to um in some ways limit what the lobbies can do in this country. Now, there's a lot of interesting ways that you can do go about that. Some people have have set term limits, but then you get into this sort of like kingmaker idea of what and it's it they can just buy the next politician. So um, but that that is a solution that needs to be had so that um we get our representative democracy back to what it was meant to be, which is the men and women of our legislature represent the men and women of their districts. Yeah, I love that. Now it it's it's um it's a funny critique. One more thing. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. I gotta I I almost forgot this because it didn't make our day one, but it certainly made our day three strategy. Uh, y'all, these data centers are existential. This is a problem that has to be solved. They are not building these so that they can expedite your Amazon orders. They're not building these so that they can you can do cat AI videos online, right? These data centers exist and will only be profitable one way and one way only. Mass surveillance with flock cameras, the CBDCs, and then last but not least, the social credit score. And you are going to pay for it with your tax dollars. Those are all government contracted things that the government wants to be able to do to make sure that they know every transaction, everything that you do, every move that you make. And the problem with Republicans Democrats not so much, they're wise to this. But Republicans always believe that they will be the ones in control of the power. They never think Democrats are ever going to win again. And guys, they're gonna win in 2028. Um, it's uh it's a reality. And all of this mass surveillance system you built, now you're back to 2020, except they have the weapons to keep you in your freaking house. They have the weapons to arrest you if you go outside without a vaccine. Those are the things that you are currently allowing to be built. We are building our own train car. I'm not even joking. Not only are we building it, we're we're we're paying for it. We're paying for our train car, and then we're building it, and then we're gonna look around like, oh my God, why are they loading us into the train cars? Right. Like that is what's happening with these uh data centers and flock cameras. That it's just the first step. So we absolutely have to stop them in their tracks and see what we can do to go backwards. But first, CBDCs need to be completely banned by the constitution. It is unconstitutional to do central bank digital currency, period. End of story. You got to draw a line in the sand there. And then also any sort of social credit system needs to be constitutional that you cannot implement it in any way where people are judged based on what they say with their speech, and it impacts uh other things. There's no way that that can be allowed to exist in this country, in any free country.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Yeah. Well, and the CBDCs, for people that don't understand this, I mean, it essentially allows the government to shut off access to all of your resources, which, you know, there there was the whole, I think it was PayPal scandal during COVID in Canada, where the they had the trucker protest and all of a sudden those guys were locked out of their bank accounts and their stream of revenue. So if you give the government the ability to digitally control all of your currency, you can be completely frozen out if you hold a position that they don't like.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

That's right. Yeah. And it's not just a cashless society, like Alex said, it's a uh the government can dictate how you spend your dollars, right? So let's say you earn just for round numbers $1,000 a month. Well, you are required to spend $200 on groceries. That $200 can't be spent on guns and ammunition or whatever it is, right? Like they can they can dictate what those dollars are allowed to go towards. Um and that is a terrifying world to live in.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Now, I I think a lot of a lot of even Republicans, especially a lot of massive voters, would be with you on all of those policy platforms. But there's there's one question that that people might have, and it's it's funny because I do hear people level this at outside candidates. And it's especially funny when Republicans make this claim, because this is essentially who Donald Trump was in 2016. But someone might look at you, Jeremy Todd, and say, okay, well, he sounds like he has all of these these great ideas, and I'm really with him on policy and everything he's saying about Gowran and Trump and the establishment, I agree with, but he's got no political experience, right? Yeah. So, uh, which again, uh, everyone says about Trump in 2016, and look what happens. You know, he be he became the most dominant political force in American in modern American history. Um, but you have to sell yourself, obviously, to the people of Kentucky for how would you convince them that you are the right person to go and represent them in Congress?

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Absolutely. I have more political experience than Ed Gowrain and Melissa Strange. I actually ran a county party. I know how to file, you know, uh all of the things. Uh they have done none of these things uh ever. Ed ran a campaign and lost, um, so maybe he has more campaign experience than me. But uh the reality is, is this is the people's house that we're running for. I should be the most normal person in the district. I should be the guy that you sit next to in the bar and you don't even know who I am. Like that's the world. What why did we allow politicians to become celebrities? Like, what world is that in? This is supposed to be a public service that we go do for our communities. And so that is what you get from me. I I am as normal and average as the day is long. Um, and I am going to be somebody who feels the things you feel, who lives in the district that you live in, uh, and and whose wife is gonna work here, whose son is gonna go to school here. You know, I am uh as uh that like I said, I'm just as as as a part of this community as anybody can. And that's what you need. But if you want to talk about experience, like, yeah, neither do they. They've never done this before. The only difference is they are going to DC to be liked. I am going to be feared. Um, that is my goal, is that if a vote comes down to a split, you better figure it out because you will not you will not sway me uh quickly. Um, and if I'm ever given that point of leverage, they're probably gonna have to go, it's probably gonna be easier to win over some Democrats on some things than me. And vice versa. Like, you know, the Democrats are gonna have a real problem with me too. Um, but that's that's it. I'm I know that if I pull this off, Alex, it's a one-term deal. I am not going, it's not happening again in 2028, right? Like this is a very this is a one-time deal, and it's a one-time deal for the people of Kentucky to vote for me. Um, there are great Republicans that I'm hoping to clear the path for, if I'm being honest. There are phenomenal Republicans who are in the mold of Massey, who are just waiting, and it's much easier to replace me than an incumbent Republican. Uh, like I said, uh, if you vote for Ed and he goes to office, you're gonna get a Mitch McConnell situation. Like he's gonna go up there to make a career of it. And do you want a do you want somebody who like wants to be a career politician, or do you want somebody who doesn't want this job who will go up there with absolute disdain for everyone in that room and tell them to their faces that they are lying and robbing the American people and it needs to stop? Um, though those are the two things you get. Now, Melissa, I don't know much about her. Most people don't. Um, she seems to be liked in the community. I know a lot of people who know her, um, but she's still gonna have to answer to a political party, ultimately. She's still gonna get called into a room uh when the vote is tight, and even if she because she's trying to run in Massey's lane too, obviously it's politically expedient. Those voters are up for grabs right now. Um, but she's gonna get pulled into a Democrat room and they're eventually gonna go, do you want a future or not? And she's gonna go, yes, okay. Then you we they're gonna you know twist the screws on her, and she's ultimately gonna cave because this is what she wants to do. I want nothing more than to go to Congress for two years and never run a campaign again. Uh I like that I want to go back to my normal life after this is over and hand the keys over to uh the great Republicans waiting behind us in the state. Um, so that's what you get out of me is you get two years of brutal honesty who doesn't have to answer to anybody in DC because there's nobody there for me to answer to. Right. Uh I don't have a political party up there, like uh I don't have a caucus up there who's like putting the screws to me. And then what are they gonna threaten me with? Uh we're gonna uh we're gonna unseat you in the next election. No joke. I already know that, right? So who cares? You don't get to so the these people will have no, the the most awful people in the world will have zero leverage over me. And that's what you get with me, even though I have no political experience.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

I love it, love it, love it. Well, for the people that are listening to this that want to support you, obviously we have the taker at the bottom of the screen. Uh Jeremy Todd.com is where they can go to find you. But how how can people support your campaign and help get you? Because we are like, you know, the Libertarian Party is not big. We don't have the multi-million dollar budgets that the Republicans or the Democrats have. So this has to be a grassroots, bottom-up kind of campaign. For people that that have heard you, that want to support you, or that just want to support an outsider, an alternative, how can they do that? What's the best way to do that?

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yeah, through the website. We have donation links there. Uh, if you're in Kentucky 4, we also have ways uh on the website that you can sign up to volunteer and contact uh the more people we have on the ground. Um, and we are organizing all that right now. We're um still running kind of on a uh um uh a volunteer basis and uh a tight string, but hopefully that will change now with uh some dynamics about my campaign that have changed. And ultimately, uh it's just finances. But the good news with me is you're not uh when you invest your dollar, it's not going, I'm not spending thousands of them on uh AI ads to target boomers on Fox News, right? I'm never I I we've already conceded that I will never have the dollars to reach them. So the dollar that you invest in me is gonna go a heck of a lot further. It's gonna go from my hand to the hands of the people in some sort of either promotional item or um, you know, something fun like we've got in store for the Fourth of July that you and I were talking about. Something that is going to make a bigger impact from a grassroots level. Um, we've been very, very good at it. Um, and so we are uh spending wisely, spending efficiently, and uh we are focused on converting the people that we touch.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

I love it. Well, final words to the people of Kentucky Ford before I let you go.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

Yeah, first of all, Crisis King. Uh, thank you for having me on the Protestant Liberty Podcast. I don't know. We I'd I'd love to come back and talk. Uh I'm I'm a mega church guy, so I don't know that I have that much philosophy to offer. Um, but uh would would love to at any time. Yeah and uh yeah, we just uh we appreciate your support, um, retweets, shares, all of those things that increase exposure. Um they they do make a massive difference on social media, and that's how we're gonna reach this under 55 crowd that uh supported Massey ultimately in in large numbers. He lost his primary because uh people still vote on day of voting, even though early voting was available. I think it was it was a very low number. And this election was record, but percentage-wise, it was still a pretty low number. Most people vote day of. And so if you're somebody like myself or Alex who works a job and then has to go get a kid from daycare and it's 545, 5'5, and now you're like, well, do I just take my kid home or do I vote in a primary? Um, that that's this was their one shot. Yeah. Uh and they pulled it off. So it's a little different now. Independents get to vote, Democrats get to vote, uh, Republicans get to vote, and uh we can actually pull something off that's special, not only uh potentially with swinging the vote, causing problems, creating upset, making them give me concessions or whatever, but there's not a zero percent chance that we pull this off and win, right? Like it if you look at the numbers, even some Republicans are like, dude, like if if you get if a couple things crack your way, like you might accidentally win this, so you need to be prepared to go to DC. I know that's crazy to say for a third party, but it's a Kentucky's a unique place. It is, and this race is very unique because people do people do not like Ed Galrain. But you know what the Republicans aren't gonna do is vote for Democrats. So we we've got this large swath of people who don't like the Republican and aren't gonna vote for the Democrat. And so I certainly believe we're gonna break third party records in the state. Yeah, we may break third party records nationwide for a race this big. And um who knows that might be and and the other factor is it's not a runoff. I don't know if people know that or not. A lot of times when you're a third party, you can get in there and shake something up, but ultimately you still end up with a two-party race and a runoff because even if you get 10, 12, 15, well, that then in turn just they eliminate you and then they do another election with just the two. That's not the case here. We could theoret, I mean, technically, we could win with 25.1% of the vote. Um, but it's probably gonna need to be more around 35, 38% of the vote. But one in three voters could send somebody like me to DC. So um that is uh what I will say. And uh yeah, I appreciate the time and have me and all the support that you've given already.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

Yeah, well, we love it. Again, Jeremy, thanks so much for coming on the show today.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Yeah, thank you so much, Alex.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

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