Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast . I'm your host , kristen Kurtz , and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching . I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck , unlock their true purpose and potential , break free from limitations and thrive with confidence , courage and hope . If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me , head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further . Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode . So tune in and let's unlock hope together .
Speaker 2Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast . I'm Kristen Kurtz , your host . I pray this episode is like a holy ivy of hope for your soul . Please help me . Welcome Angela Adkins to the show . I am excited to have her here today . We actually got connected through our mutual friend , cindy Nicholson , and when we chatted for the first time I knew I wanted to have her on here to share more about what she does . As you guys know , this is the second season of Launching Pioneers and I definitely see her as a pioneer in the work that she's doing to help set the captives free . So , angela , would you be open to telling us a little bit more about yourself before we get started ?
Speaker 3Absolutely . Thank you so much for having me , kristen , and I feel the same way about you . The minute I met you , I just loved the way that you flowed with this Holy Spirit and made everyone feel welcome and I just , I really enjoy who you are .
Speaker 3Yes , you too . So a little about me . I am married . I've been married for 22 years . I have six wonderful from the ages of 8 to 21 . And so that keeps me busy . I'm also I've been in ministry for over 20 years as well . All kinds of ministry church planting , youth ministry .
Speaker 3The thing that really caught me , though , and just caught my passion and , I guess , really transformed my personal life as well , was when I got into healing the heart , and so right now what I do is heart healing , coaching , and it's a little hard sometimes to define everything that I do . I'm an equipper . I love to train people , and sometimes that can be a good thing or a bad thing . My family can get a little tired of the training side of my personality , but the Lord has done a work in me , in embracing that . He has made me a teacher .
Speaker 3I actually really resisted the training side of things for a long time , mainly because I've seen sometimes where teachers just kind of take the life out of a room , if that makes sense , and I didn't want to be that person . And finally the Lord just spoke to me and said you know , you are you , you have a gift of teaching and you're despising the gift I've given you . And , um , I just I repented and I just remember being in tears because my husband kept telling me , like you , you are a good teacher . And when I tell you that , like you look at it as a negative , but I'm not speaking it as a negative and it made me realize I needed to ask God what was up with that . So , anyway , what was up with that ? Well , so what was up with it was I just had some poor experiences as a , I guess as a child , as a teenager , where I saw a lot of people who would consider themselves to be good teachers and we're talking mostly in the church here like good teachers of the word , but I wouldn't see any movement of the Holy Spirit and in fact , I would see a quenching of the Holy Spirit .
Speaker 3And when I was about 15 , I guess this is do you want me to jump into my testimony a little ? I can share a little , yeah , would you ? Yeah , so when I I had a pretty pivotal moment in my life when I was around 14 , I had I have a sister , 14 . I have a sister , but she is now with the Lord , and she was 11 years old when I believe I was 15 when she passed away and she had bone cancer and we really prayed for her healing . Even back then I was a believer , we were a believing family . Even back then I was a
believer , we were a believing family .
Speaker 3So I had an interesting experience with the Lord right before we found out that she was sick . The summer before we found out that she was sick , and I really had not given my life to the Lord . I was resisting the idea of Him being in control of my life . I believed in God , I believed in Jesus , but I really did not want to surrender and so I went away to a youth camp and they had us , of all things , go spend time with the . I still remember it to this day and I just was like Lord , you know , this is pretty stupid , because I don't have a relationship with you and I don't really want to waste your time and I'm not sure you want to waste mine . So like do you ?
Speaker 3want anything from me .
Speaker 3I'm 14 , you know , and I'm just kind of like I know I'm not surrendered , I know I don't really have like . This is kind of a dumb activity . You know why am I sitting here pretending to talk to God , right , and then all of a sudden ? I guess because I gave this window of opportunity to the Lord , and also sometimes we just don't understand the timing of the word . But he understands it Right . So he had me , I believe he set me up for such a time as that , right On that moment , on that Hill , and he spoke to my heart and it was , I think , the second time in my life that I had heard . It was a whisper in my heart , it wasn't audible , but it was very , very clear that it was the Lord speaking to me . He said to me if you turn away from me today , you will turn away from me the rest of your life .
Speaker 2Oh my gosh .
Speaker 3Yeah , that sobered me like big time because I knew that I was , I was being resistant to the Lord , but it wasn't that I didn't believe in him . You know what I mean . And so that day , when I heard that , it was like the fear of the Lord came over my life and I just I said , lord , I surrender , I surrender , I surrender to you , I don't want to walk away from you the rest of my life . And you know he knows our heart right and he knew that my heart didn't want to walk away from him . And looking back , like the moment I have to say this the moment I accepted Christ like that and I surrendered to his Lordship , I was filled with joy . I was filled with joy .
Speaker 3It was nothing like the religion that I had grown up in . It was nothing like just because I had spent my whole life doing the right things . In fact , when I went back to my youth group and said I gave my life to Christ and I want to get baptized , they all looked at me and said you're the best Christian out of all of us . Like why would you want to ? Like haven't you baptized already ? And I'm like no , you don't understand . Like I met God for real .
Speaker 2Like this my life changed .
Speaker 3And I never wanted to be baptized before then and I immediately wanted to be baptized afterwards . And so there was just a huge shift in my life , in receiving Christ and making him Lord . And I think sometimes we miss that aspect where it says confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe , you know , believe with your heart that he was raised from the dead . And it's like we're , we're like well , just pray the prayer , and really it's . It's more than a prayer , it's a you're the , I want you to be the Lord of my life . You came , you rescued me , you saved me , you delivered me . The word salvation is actually sozo and it means saved , healed and delivered , and that's , that's everything he did for us . But there is this element of us making him Lord , and so I've had a huge shift at that moment element of us making him Lord , and so I've had a huge shift at that moment .
Speaker 2Well , and that's incredible to be 14 . I mean , I have a completely different story of being , you know , saved from addiction at 25 , not growing up in the church . So I can imagine being 14 , like . What did it look like in ? Like at school ? Were you going to school ? Were you homeschooled ? What did that look like to be a teenager who was like I am following the Lord , like let's go .
Speaker 3So I was homeschooled actually at that point , and fairly protected in a lot of ways . A lot of ways , I think . For me it became a joy in my life . And then back to back , to like what I was saying about my sister .
Speaker 3And what happened ? That happened , you know , the next year , and I looked back and realized like the Lord wasn't joking . If I did not have that personal relationship with Jesus and all I had was religion , I would have walked away from God for the rest of my life after the pain I went through of losing my sister . But because I knew Christ , I was able to experience joy . Through the whole process , I was able to see that she had a personal relationship with the Lord and the Lord prepared her heart for everything that was happening . And here we prayed for her healing . And I work now in healing ministry . I work in freedom and deliverance , I work in helping people to experience all there is with God , and I expect miracles all the time . But we did not see a miracle and so I had to , you know , walk through that experience of loss .
Speaker 3And in that I just know that God's timing is perfect , because I had the Lord with me and I wasn't alone you know , walking through that pain and that loss .
Speaker 2I can't even imagine . I mean , I haven't walked through that with a sibling . I've walked through with you know my father passed away about eight years ago and to be young , like a teenager , I can't imagine not having you know Christ in my life at that time . You know I was , I walked through it being a believer when my dad passed away but I can't imagine not having the Lord with you through that pain , right For sure . And you know , just in our world in general , like I can't imagine walking through this life , like how I used to live , right To not have to .
Speaker 2Just , you know , there's just so many things that we can encounter in this life that can have you to question , and even as believers too . One of the things I wanted to kind of dig into , if you're able to do this with me and go here , I think for some people and I've even experienced this at times too is just kind of questioning like , okay , you say we can be healed and you know , like with your sister , that really challenging walking through seeing somebody not healed . And I'm thinking of somebody maybe listening today that you know they were really believing for somebody to be healed and they were like , well , why didn't God save my family member ? Why didn't he heal this person ? Is that something that you'd be open to kind of going deeper on ?
Speaker 3I mean , it's a big topic and definitely something that I've had to come to like a connecting point in where my experience doesn't necessarily the Bible isn't defined by my experience , and so I have learned to take my experience and filter it through what the word of God says , versus filtering the word of God through my experience if that makes sense .
Speaker 3And so for me , a lot of times I've walked through some of these places of pain and , um question god , question why , why is this happening ? But then I'll also process through with the lord . You know what the root causes were in some of these situations , and sometimes there's not a root cause , sometimes the lord just knows what's not a root cause , sometimes the Lord just knows what's best and we don't see the big picture and we can't fully understand it . And with my sister , you know I'm sure there were a lot of other elements involved . But he did assure me 10 years later , actually spoke to me and and just had me have my husband . He asked me to have my husband watch my children and said I'm going to answer a question that's been on your heart for a long time .
Speaker 3And he told me that it was in his mercy that he took my sister , and I don't understand all of the pieces behind it . You know . I do know that she had her arm amputated in the process and she had lost her hair and there were a lot of things that happened , but he reassured me that it was his mercy , and so what I have learned is that , no matter what , god is good and his mercy always triumphs over just judgment , and so even in the places where we don't understand and we don't comprehend , we can
Speaker 3know that he is good . And that's something that I have seen over and over and over again in my life , even when things have not gone my way , and sometimes even when I feel that the Lord has given me a word for someone to be healed , and then I didn't experience what I thought I would see . And in that , even knowing that God is good and sometimes bringing he brings me a deeper revelation that I'm then able to use for freedom for people , for healing for people . I have seen a lot of people get physical healing . I've seen a lot of people receive emotional healing . I've seen a lot of people receive emotional healing that then brings physical healing .
Speaker 3I've seen some people get free from demons that were actually causing infirmity and affliction , and there's some scenarios where , younger in my Christian walk , I didn't even understand that we can be afflicted by demons , and I believe some of the situations that I saw that were not necessarily where healing didn't actually happen the way I had hoped it would and believed that it would . I believe some of those situations actually had demonic afflictions that I at that point was not equipped to take you know , to take through , and so sometimes we lose a family member before it's time I feel like you know . I mean , I know the Lord is sovereign and , like I said , it's a huge topic .
Speaker 2It is .
Speaker 3But even in the sovereignty of the Lord , knowing his character is so important because one of the things I teach in my mentorship so I have a mentorship that's from trauma to triumph . I feel like I'm going rabbit trailing all over because we never went beautiful either .
Speaker 2Yes , it's good .
Speaker 3But , but it's . It's the whole trauma to triumph , mentorship that I run . It's like one of the things that I want to equip people in is
feel like I'm losing my track here . What was ? What ? Were we talking about ? The healing ?
Speaker 2Yeah , like kind of questioning maybe , why somebody didn't receive healing right .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , and so , with the character of God , one of the first things that I train on is that , you know , in the beginning , when there was that Garden of Eden that God created , I mean God created this beautiful place for us to flourish , for Adam and Eve to come in flourish and walk with God hand in hand and be in relationship , and there was no pain . And so I think sometimes we like we , end up blaming God for pain , when he never wanted us to be in a place where we were experiencing pain to start with Right . And so I think that's a huge part of the revelation of who God is for us to understand , like it's the enemy that wants to kill . Yes .
Speaker 3The enemy wants to destroy . The enemy , you know , wants to bring sickness into our life . And yes , can God use sickness and bring glory out of any situation , trials , you know . It says he turns all things for good to those that love him .
Speaker 3But I would never say like it's God's desire for us in a place of sickness or , you know , to experience cancer , which is what my sister had . So it's it's like elevating that , um , what I believe , to what the word says . And it says in the Bible that Jesus healed all kinds of sicknesses and diseases . So I'll often go to the father and say , father um , why ? Why , you know , how do I get to the place where I see all sicknesses and all diseases vanish in front of me ? You know , because I believe that's possible , I believe in miracles , I've seen a lot of them , but sometimes we walk through hard things and really that is a test of our faith . You know , are we going to lose our faith in who God is and the character of God in the middle of the difficult situation , or are we going to triumph ?
Speaker 3And the Bible says that we always triumph through Christ . And one of the things he's been speaking to me recently is you cannot overcome if there's nothing to overcome . Yes , right , you can't triumph if there's not something to triumph over , right . And so , because we have pain that entered in through sin , and this world is full of sin and Satan is the ruler of this world for a season , there's a lot of things that don't make sense . There's a lot of pain , there's a lot of heartache , there's a lot of things , but God , in his grace and his mercy , is rescuing us from those things through Christ , and that's the good news , and you know how many people need to hear that .
Speaker 2Yes , well , and that's part of why you know I often will be , you know , as I'm listening to guests that come on kind of , you know , thinking like what might somebody be thinking and wondering about in this area ? Right , and healing is a big topic , like that could be a whole podcast . I could have you back another time and we could go deeper on that if you're led to . But I would love to hear of maybe a testimonial that you've seen a miracle happen in healing . I don't know if you don't have to share names or anything , but to give people like that hope , because maybe they've never seen a miracle before , maybe they've never seen , you know , something like that happen . Right , would you be open to sharing maybe something that you've seen in your time in ministry ?
Speaker 3Yeah , yes , for sure . Now it's interesting because , yes , for sure . Now it's interesting because immediately I'm like going through the Rolodex in my mind of like stories you know , like Lord , what story . And it's so interesting because immediately the stories that come to my mind typically when I see physical healing happen , it's because deliverance happens . Now my husband- .
Speaker 2Deliverance first . Deliverance comes first . Happens Now my husband- .
Speaker 3Deliverance comes first , deliverance happens and then I see healing . I do a lot of emotional healing . My husband works in physical healing a lot more . So I do believe there's like the gifts of the Holy Spirit . They we all can walk in them at any time the Lord wants us to . But there are certain gifts that I've seen like they're very active in my life and other ones that are active in other people's life , and so I've seen a lot more physical healing with my husband's ministry , because he'll like pray over people and just see physical happen , just by praying or speaking healing over the person .
Speaker 3But in my ministry typically the Lord will begin to heal the heart and then we will end up taking authority over something or someone will forgive , because forgiveness opens a door for torment from the enemy . So here's a couple of stories Earlier in ministry , and I've seen this all along . But I will never forget this one time when a lady came up and she wanted prayer for healing over her arthritis and I began to ask the Lord as we talked about earlier Kristen , the importance of being able to hear God's voice and knowing the Holy Spirit . That's a whole nother story , probably for a whole nother time , of how they received the Holy Spirit as well . But that radically changed me , realizing I could have a personal relationship with God and he would speak with me and want me to know things and not just what the word of God says . I mean obviously in agreement with the word of .
Speaker 3God , but that he can speak into our individual situations . So I had learned to lean on him . To kind of tune into the flow of the Holy Spirit would be the best way I could explain it . And it just popped into my my , my heart , my mind , that little whisper again ask her if there's anyone she needs to forgive . And so that's what I did . I said , you know , before I pray for your healing , I just feel like the Holy Spirit wants me to ask you is there anyone that you need to forgive ? And before it even popped out of my mouth , she was like yes , she knew immediately who she needed to forgive .
Speaker 3I didn't have to like make her mentally do acrobats to think about it , she just knew there was somebody there . So I said , let's , can we just pray a prayer and I'll lead you through it of forgiveness . And I had her choose to forgive this person and release the person . And as I was opening my eyes to just kind of check to see you know like where's she at in the process , and I was preparing to pray for healing , Then her eyes popped out of her head and she goes my pain is gone , and her hands like the arthritis kind of left as she spoke forgiveness , and that was a really amazing miracle to me , as she really closed the door to some of the bitterness .
Speaker 3And we don't realize how much bitterness and unforgiveness play a role in health issues .
Speaker 2Oh yeah .
Speaker 3It's , you know , rheumatoid arthritis .
Speaker 3I'm not saying all rheumatoid arthritis is from bitterness and unforgiveness , but I am saying , if you have it , do a check with the Lord and see if there's any unforgiveness or bitter roots in your life , because they can contaminate and cause that kind of thing to be worse in our bodies Heart issues . We just recently here's another story we just recently had a 12 week mentorship called Unbound that eight women came in and were a part of , and I did this with some other coaches . But there was one session where I don't even think I realized that I had a word from the Lord , because I just kind of start flowing and sharing what's , you know , like I was , I was teaching and I was training and I was sharing the word the Lord had given me and then , just out of left field I guess , I I heard something about a heart and I said I believe I was talking about trauma and uh , we were , you know , taking authority over any spirit of trauma , but then all of a sudden it just hit my heart . I think somebody's heart is being healed .
Speaker 3Now I don't even know if I knew whether that was emotional or physical . I was just being obedient and saying like somebody's heart is being healed in this moment . Later , one of the ladies came up to us and let us know that her heart physical heart actually got healed . Oh amen .
Speaker 3That was amazing , like it was my expectation . I don't even think I was thinking of a physical said it , I was just being obedient . And then God , god , did it right . It's not my business is called the light and the glory . And yes , say it again , say it again what's the light and ?
Speaker 2the glory , isn't that beautiful .
Speaker 3And it's a reminder that I'm shining the light of Christ , but he gets the glory .
Speaker 2Amen , yes , and I'm . I'm guessing he gave you that name .
Speaker 3Yes .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's . I want to just throw in , like , if you guys have a business and you're wanting to know what the name of your business should be , ask him , basically ask him for anything . But I just wanted to put throw that in there . It's always the best to have him name your things .
Speaker 3I mean , I can't imagine life without him your things .
Speaker 2I mean , I can't imagine life without him . Yeah , Well , I love how you , you know , shared these testimonies , but I want to kind of go back a little bit , because a big part of you know who you are and what you're called to help people with is hearing God . I know I've had , you know , I've run across people in my walk like , well , how do you hear God ? And like , how do you hear him so much ? And like , what do you ? I would love for you to kind of go deeper on that , because I know my ears and my eyes opened . You know , I've been a believer since I was 25 and I wouldn't say it was till about 2017 , which was eight years ago that I heard that still small voice . Like my whole world opened up , Um , and I hear him , I see him differently than others do it , and I I would love for you to go deeper on that , because , um , yeah , Would you go deeper on that ? I'll stop talking about my story .
Speaker 3I love your story too , yeah , and I love that you . You know that you saw a shift when you that you could hear his voice and that you learned how to connect , which is probably a story all on its own of how you live . I think for me it happened incrementally .
I received the Holy Spirit soon after my sister passed away . Received the Holy Spirit soon after my sister passed away . Now , when I say that , language can get a little sticky , because we do have the Holy .
Speaker 3Spirit as salvation but there was a level of of being filled with the Holy Spirit and and being connected that I did not have through salvation , that I still needed to experience . There's a . There's a more that .
Speaker 3God wants us to give to us , and it and it's not like it , it's a one-time thing , it happens once . But then in the Bible says be being continually filled with the Holy spirit , and I think that's a huge key factor in being able to hear his voice is is being able to have a relationship with the Holy spirit , also having relationship with Jesus , with the Heavenly Father . We're supposed to be able to be connected to the Godhead through what Jesus did on the cross . And then he said I'm not going to leave you lonely when I go to be with the Father to prepare a place . I'm not going to leave you alone , I'm going to send you the Holy Spirit . And so understanding and receiving the Holy Spirit was , um . The Holy Spirit's help and comfort and voice and guidance was a huge part of that .
Speaker 3But then , a little older , um later in life , when I was a little bit older , in my 20s , my husband and I we went through some ministry training and one of the courses that we took was about hearing God's voice , and that really changed our lives .
Speaker 3And I think what shifted there for me was realizing I could listen to God anytime I wanted and he would speak to me . Now he doesn't always speak on our timetable about everything , but he never turns us away Like he's a river that is always flowing and realizing that , like the river that's flowing from the , you know the spirit of God . It talks about that in scriptures . I don't have those scriptures right in front of me , but the rivers of living water that flow out of our bellies . There's just a lot of different relevant places where it talks about the Holy Spirit flowing like water or like wind . And so we learned this whole process and I would say , the key factor , this is something that I coach in , I train in in almost everything I do . I was just even telling you earlier like I feel , like I can't train on anything else without this foundation , like I just think hearing God's voice is a foundation to being free , to being healed , to being released into your purpose , to figuring out your business name to training up and raising your children .
Speaker 3I wouldn't want , I wouldn't want any of that without being able to connect with the voice of the Lord . And so what shifted for me and this is what I'll I'll leave with you , because beyond that , you know , I obviously I can train on that . I don't want to do that , but for me it was knowing I could listen and I would spend a lot of time journaling , telling the Lord about my day and sometimes he would speak to me .
Speaker 3I mean , I had experienced that here and there , right , but I didn't make a habit of Lord . What do you want to say to me today ?
Speaker 3of Lord what do you want to say to me today ? What do you want to show me ? Who do you say I am ? And I begin to make a habit of writing a question in my journal and then waiting till I heard an answer or saw a vision . And he loves to speak in visions and dreams . There's so many . I mean , this topic is is amazing in the Bible , how many ways that he speaks to us nature . You know all of it . Um , so I don't know . I don't know if that fully answered your question , but for me that's where the shift came in was realizing I could listen and his sheep know his voice , and it's really learning . What does that voice sound like ? You know ?
Speaker 2yes , and especially in this time too , like we have to be , we have to really hear his voice above all the other voices in this world , because it is noisy out there , wouldn't you say ?
Speaker 3sure , sure , it's so easy to get distracted , derailed , discouraged , yeah . And knowing him is really the whole thing that keeps us stabilized .
Speaker 2Yes , absolutely . So you said that you have a um , a training coming up .
Speaker 3So I do . I have a couple of things coming up Um , one will be in July . I'll be doing my Trauma to Triumph mentorship , and that is a six month . That's my largest mentorship that I do . It's a six month intensive that takes you through heart healing . It takes you through freedom .
Speaker 3Actually , I equip everyone on hearing God's voice and connecting to God , being seated in heavenly places . So many different topics , but the whole goal is intimacy with Christ and that we become whole , and not just that we become whole , but that we are able to learn these tools that are all throughout scripture and be able to utilize them in bringing wholeness to others as well . And so that's that's the mission of um , that mentorship , and it starts in July and goes for six months . It's a group coaching alongside of equipping and training track Um I I love doing that and if anybody is interested they can definitely reach out to me . Angelaadkinscom is my website and I'll be having more things posted up there as it gets closer . The second thing that I know that I'm going to be releasing probably mid-August I don't have an exact date for it yet but I'm going to be doing a training on casting out demons .
Speaker 3And this is a first-time thing for me . I've been working in bringing freedom to people for a very long time and I've been getting my own training from a lot of different ministries and people that I respect because I've been wanting to grow in that , but the Lord has really released me to begin to train on that . I want to have some Q and A's alongside of that . And .
Speaker 3I know it's going to bring more freedom to people , but also just equipping people in being more confident in their authority to bring freedom when
it's needed and to know how , like how and when that is and what it looks like .
Speaker 2Yes , oh , that's so . It's so needed . I mean , there's so many . Um , yeah , I know that in our time there's going to be more opportunities where , like personally , I feel like I do a measure of deliverance , but it's not like casting out demons . I don't know enough to know how to cast out demons per se , like I wouldn't say I'm trained up in it , but I am trained through Holy Spirit how to bring deliverance and unlock people . So I think we all have a different measure of bringing , like freedom to people . And I remember and this might I don't know if this is going to make sense , but I live in a very interesting place and I thought , like I wanted to just tear down everything here and I'm like the Lord is showing me like this is not your lane right now , like this is not you don't know enough to be able to try to , like you know , tear down the territorial spirits here , and you know what I'm saying Like so I think it's really pivotal and like we need something .
Speaker 3That's a different topic . I think it's really pivotal and like we need something we do . We do need to be very careful that we're walking in the authority that God has given to us and the realm that God's given to us as well , and I highly recommend you know working on our own personal hearts and our spheres before we try to do anything regional .
Speaker 2There's . There's a big key Right and I think and the beauty is that , like you know , I have stuff that I'm still working on too Right , I went through a ton of trauma growing up and there's no shame like any listeners out there , like if you're still walking through things , that doesn't disqualify you from you know stepping out and doing what God called you to do . I mean , would you say that yourself , Like you're still walking out ? You know your own freedom .
Speaker 3It's a continuum right , a level of bloodline freedom , like like through my bloodline deliverance , that I didn't even realize I needed , but it was . It was causing some unnecessary warfare in my life that I didn't realize where it was rooted in . So it's always growing and I will say this . So I , my heart , feels whole and I don't . I didn't used to feel that way . I used to feel very wounded and you know the it doesn't stop . Like we still have to take captive thoughts that come our way and the enemy will prey on weaknesses .
Speaker 3You know , like one of mine is , uh , that God's healed me from is I'm not good enough , and there's still days when you know that will just come in and I'll let it stay a little bit . Do you know what I mean ? Like all I know , let's hang out . It's like I'm like why , why am I doing this ? I know who I am Like this is not okay . But there is a difference in in , just my heart feels whole and it didn't used to feel full . I don't know how to explain it , but it's like I know that there has been a level of wholeness that he's brought to me , but we're always growing .
Speaker 2Yes , and how like , how fresh is this for you ?
Speaker 3With the bloodline . Yeah , well , that was actually in the last a couple of months deadline . Well , that was actually in the last couple of months , yeah , and it wasn't like a huge shift for me . It was just that I was experiencing a few oppressions when I would work with people and no matter who I would talk to about it , like you know , I would get prayer , but it was like it wasn't necessarily going away and especially when I was in worship it would happen and I'm like what is going on ? It was like a depression on my shoulder here just a little bit sometimes , and I know that sounds a little bit weird , but that was what was happening and I'm like I just really don't think this is the way that God wants it to be . It doesn't feel like it's him showing me something and I finally we had a speaker come out to minister to families and she has learned a lot about bloodline deliverance , and so I asked her , I said , could this be ? So ? She did a little bit of you know , a question with me , a prayer with me , and then literally it was five minutes and it was gone . And then literally it was five minutes and it was gone .
Speaker 3And I think for me it was just a kind of a final thing and I'm not saying it's the only final thing when I say that , but it was a final thing a long process of my intercession . Like God set us free . I want my children free , I want my bloodline free . I want you know , I want generations free . I don't just want us free , I want my children free , I want my bloodline free . I want you know , I want generations free . I don't just want myself free , I want generations free . And what was really really neat about that situation was , right before I went up to her to ask her about that , my daughter had gotten ministry from her and she's 21 . And she was in the other room getting ministry and I didn't even realize that they were doing bloodline freedom over her , and so I literally came up with the same thing that she had .
Speaker 3I mean , it ended up being connected and we , my daughter and I , got to pray together and it was just so precious . God wants to restore , he wants to restore families . He wants to restore entire communities .
Speaker 2So could you just share a little bit . For somebody who's wondering what is bloodline deliverance , Could you just share a little bit of what that means .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's even a word I don't often use for myself , just because it just share a little bit of what that means . Yeah , that's even a word I don't often use myself , just because it can be a little bit like scary or something . But really it's simple . It's that in Deuteronomy it talks about that the blessings of God flow for a thousand generations and it also talks about that . You know , our sin can cause a curse that flows for three to four generations , and one of the things that I've learned along the way is that three to four generations is where God cuts that off , but then if the third or fourth generation continues in the sin , that's what it does . It goes three or four more generations right , so we can have sin in our .
Speaker 3that's what I'm referring to when I say bloodline in our generations might be a better term than using bloodline really means the same thing In our generations Generational , yeah , generational . But it's more than just breaking a generational curse it's actually a deliverance .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 3And the something I mean . This is a again . Every one of these is such a big topic , but they're .
Speaker 3Jesus paid the price at the cross for our deliverance and for our sickness , and the best way that I can explain this is that I'm sure that almost everyone listening at some point has had the flu or a cold , and yet we are healed through Christ , jesus , right ? So at some point , sometimes , what we have in Christ isn't necessarily what we are experiencing in our reality , and so , in the same way with deliverance , we have full deliverance and freedom through the cross . But sometimes there's places where the enemy either has a legal entry and that's what happens with the generations is there's been a door opened and it never got shut so to speak , and so that's it's .
Speaker 3It's a pretty simple thing , but it's like we have to . We have to take away . We have to take our authority through Christ and take away the legal right that the enemy is holding onto and place that in the Lord's hands , and then we get that freedom . And so it's a lot about legal rights , illegal rights , and the enemy doesn't play fair and sometimes we are way too nice to him because we should hate what he does . He's a destroyer , he kills , he steals , he destroys . Nothing he does is good and he loves to squat . And if you don't tell him to leave , he's not going to leave . Even though we have authority through Christ and we are free , he's still going to put us in bondage if we let him .
Speaker 2Yeah , I like to say the enemy's a punk and he's under my feet , like that's just try to come at , come at me something . Nope , you're a punk . Like that's just my own terminology .
Speaker 2That's what I use a lot tolerate him with that sometimes we tolerate him yeah , well , and those thoughts that come , like you said earlier , like entertaining the thoughts that come that aren't like from from the like that's not something he would say to us . And like , how would you recommend somebody like , when they're hearing these thoughts , like , rather than entertaining them ? You know we hear like , you know , take your thoughts captive , like what does that look like for you , like tangibly , for somebody who's like , well , I can't stop thinking these things .
Speaker 3So I think the first step , if they're intrusive thoughts typically they're demonic , sometimes they can be our thoughts too but if they're intrusive thoughts , then we have the authority to bind them up in the name of Jesus . And the Bible says to set up , to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ . And I like to think about that as an act of war , because when we take something captive , it's not you know , it's not easy to take something captive . They don't want to be taken captive typically , captive typically because they're looking for their freedom . And so if we're looking at these thoughts as they are not obedient to Christ and we need to take them captive , then there is a level of wrestling them down , and the best way to do that is through an exercise , and maybe this is a good way . I can actually just leave this exercise with anyone listening here on this podcast to practice yourself , because I believe every human being has some level of a lie being spoken to them or a core belief system that is maybe not in alignment with heaven , that needs to be healed and needs to be adjusted into his truth , and so my favorite thing to do is to just have have you close your eyes and ask Jesus to come and be with you and go to a place that brings you peace , like some people love to go to the ocean , some people like to walk through the forest , some people like their own bedrooms , be on their bed or on a couch that's comfortable and safe . And I just encourage people to use their imagination and picture that place of peace and then invite Jesus to come , be with them and ask him about the lie that you were hearing . And if you're not sure if it's a lie or if it's truth , ask him and just say Jesus , you know what do you want to say about this ? And I think it's really important , when we do recognize it's a lie , to renounce it . To say and renounce is another big word it's really saying I don't agree . So you can say I don't agree or you can say I renounce it , but I don't agree with the thought that I'm not good enough .
Speaker 3And I received the truth and then asked Jesus what is the truth ? Well , the truth for me is I mean I'm not good enough , but through Christ and what he did for me , I am enough and because he is enough for me . And so sometimes it can be like a twisted truth . Right Like we are , none of us are good enough . We've all sinned , we've all fallen short , but I'm also . God doesn't
look at me as a failure . That's not who he . He he sees me as success through the eyes of Christ . And so it's asking the Lord what is the truth , and then maybe even finding a scripture that goes along with that truth , that you can implant those those things on your mirror , on your , you know , wherever you're driving . If you spend a lot of time in the car , put it on your car , put it on your wall , put it where you do the dishes at your workplace . Put the truths around , surround yourself with the truth that God speaks over your life , and that's a really good way to start overcoming the lies .
Speaker 2Okay , is there a verse that really helped you to overcome in that area of the not enough ? Because I've found that there's . It's kind of a flip . It's like too much , not enough . Have you heard those a lot Like I'm too much and I'm not enough ? Yes , those are big ones , right , and they try to stop you from going forward .
Speaker 1I think the key to the not good enough side is relationship with .
Speaker 3God instead of religion . I'm not sure I have a particular scripture , except that it's not about our works , so I think it might be more that type of scripture where it's by faith , it's not by works , that no man can boast . And so the truth is , is that we're where we ? Just we need to let down that wall of protection and let Jesus in to fill the need , whatever that need is . That's making us not enough and , to speak , the value that we need into our lives into our lives so good .
Speaker 2Angela , you're amazing , like he has the teaching , absolutely Like I see it full , it's , it's beautiful and I would love to have you come back another time . And in the meantime , as you guys heard , angela , could you share your website again ?
Speaker 3Sure it's AngelaAdkinscom . And . I'm also on Facebook , Angela Adkins . I'm not sure .
Speaker 2Yeah Well , if anything you know , if anything popped out , like , are you open to , you know , touching base with people , helping them understand more , maybe some of these topics that maybe are new to them , Because it was new to me in 2017 . A lot of these things I've , like I said , my ears , my eyes , everything's kind of opened up and I was like , wow , this is not a lot of stuff that's being taught in church .
Speaker 3Absolutely . I have a free consult . So if you reach out to me on the website , just put a . You know there's a contact me button .
Speaker 3Okay send an email my way where I can send you a link . I'm not sure if my calendar is up on my website yet , cause I have a couple of different websites going up . For those of you who don't know me , I started my business just recently . It was less than six months ago . I've been doing the ministry of this for like 20 years , but did not have a business to go with it until just pretty recently , so I'm still getting all of my ducks in a row , yeah .
Speaker 2Yes , I love that you are out there . You may not have it all together yet , but you're out here and you're helping to set the captives free , which is beautiful .
Speaker 3Absolutely . I'm happy to have a consultation and just see what I might have available to help people . I also have a course . It's called Heart Sessions with Jesus Basic Tools to Healing and Freedom , and it actually does talk about hearing God's voice , connection , forgiveness , all of these topics that we've been talking about , and core , core memories , core lies out of how God rewrites our story . That's all in that workbook and there's like a a course . You can even do it with a small group . I did it with small groups in mind , hoping that people would take the workbook and just work through it with a small group . I did it with small groups in mind , hoping that people would take the workbook and just work through it with a small group and pray with each other and see healing and freedom .
Speaker 2Awesome , and that's available on your website , correct ?
Speaker 3Yes , that's also on Amazon as well .
Speaker 2Okay , awesome . Well , as we close today , I would love for you to just think of the one who's listening in today , because that's my heart is to do this for the one . Is there anything that you would like to speak over the one , any additional encouragement , any wisdom you'd like to share ? And then would you be open to praying us out today ?
Speaker 3Absolutely . I think what's on my heart at the moment and it kind of correlates to what we just talked about in overcoming lies is that every one of you that's listening , you are valuable and you have a plan . God has a plan and a purpose for you that is beyond measure , and it says , you know , in Jeremiah 29 , 11 , which a lot of us are familiar with , it says that he has a future and a hope and it will not be cut off . And I believe that one of the enemy's main tactics is to try to stop us from accomplishing the amazing things that we are created to accomplish . The amazing things that we are created to accomplish and I'm trying to find the right words for this but it's not just that we're supposed to accomplish , but that we are powerful . We're powerful people , and what we believe literally changes the world around us . And what you believe about yourself , what you believe about God , what you step out in faith in , is literally what will change the world around you and change your world . And so I just want to encourage you to realize that it's not by our might and it's not by our power , but it's by the Holy Spirit that we are able to see any of these things happen , and whether God is calling you into a deeper place of healing personally , maybe saying like he wants to speak to you in the secret place and to open up more time for intimacy , or whether you yourself feel a call to go forward and make a change in your world and you're trying to navigate that change . I just want to encourage you to bring all of that before the Lord , because he cares about you , he sees your value and anything telling you anything else than that is not his voice , and so that's probably the most important thing I feel like I can say .
Speaker 3The Lord put on my heart the story of Samson this week , and I just think it's so interesting because if you look at Samson's life in the Old Testament , if you've read about him , he was a judge of Israel and he had incredible strength , but that strength came from the power of the spirit that was upon him , and you know it was the Holy Spirit that rested upon him . Even though he was in the Old Testament , it was still the Holy Spirit that rested upon him , and now we have access to the power of the Holy Spirit . As believers , we all have access . It's not just like a judge in Israel . That happens to have that upon him his life .
Speaker 3But we get access to God anytime , all the time Jesus Christ lives in us . We always triumph through Christ . We're seated in heavenly places with Christ it's all over the scripture and we have this power of the Holy Spirit accessible to us , and so I just want to tell you that no one listening , you are not little , you are not less than you may look different than me , you may not have the same gifting sets that I do or Kristen does , but you have a value and you have something beautiful to offer to this world , and anything telling you otherwise is a lie . Yes , amen . Amen .
Speaker 2I just sense like a healing balm over so many listening right now .
Speaker 3Do you want me to pray ?
Speaker 2Yeah , would you pray us out ?
Speaker 3So , lord , I thank you for every person listening to this podcast and Holy Spirit , I pray right now that you would settle upon them to this podcast and Holy Spirit , I pray right now that you would settle upon them that your presence , your love , your comfort would just set upon their hearts , god , that you would tear down any walls that have been keeping them from connecting to you , connecting to your presence , lord , and I pray , father , that you would heal pain and that you would speak into places where the just the , I don't understand places , the places where it doesn't all make sense . Oh , lord , that there would be a level of trust that every person who's listening to this podcast could step into and saying God , I trust you , even though I don't understand everything , I trust you . I trust you that you , you are my , and I feel like it's even fill in the blank . What is it that you need God to be ?
Speaker 3For me , it was . I needed God to be my protector . I needed God to be my love . I needed filled with love so that I didn't walk in fear . Fear was a huge place that God overcame in my life . I used to be afraid of demons , actually , which is hilarious , because now I'm also like I'm not afraid anymore . I know who God is .
Speaker 3And so , lord , wherever that place is , whether it's you know , um , that God you are , I'm not alone . You are with me into that place of abandonment . God , I pray that you would just remove any core lies where somebody I just feel like there's somebody who's listening , who does feel alone , who maybe even feels on scene , but especially feels alone , and I just want to speak to you , that God is with you , he loves you , he sees you . You're not alone . And , lord , I pray for anyone else that needs to just hear your voice , that you would speak the truth to their heart , god , and that you would just touch them in such a way that they would feel your presence and your healing and that you would help them , god , to step out in freedom , to take authority over the lives of the enemy and to bind them up and remove them through the authority of Christ that they have . Father , I thank you that they are beloved and that they are yours . I bless them in Jesus name .
Speaker 2Amen . Angela , what a blessing it has been to have you on here today . I would love to have you back again sometime if you're open to it . I feel like you're just such a beautiful wealth of just wisdom and knowledge and experience . You know , walking with the Lord for so long I had to go downstairs because my neighbor was revving up his engine as you were praying and I was like there's something on that . There's just this acceleration happening . So again , thank you for being on today and thank you for being a brave voice . Who's setting so many free ? I'm going to close Hope Unlocked with our anchoring verse , which is May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that , by the power of the Holy Spirit , you may abound in hope , and that's Romans 15 , 13 . So thank you again , angela . I'll be back with another episode next week . Bye 13 . So thank you again , angela . I'll be back with another episode next week . Bye , listeners .