One Shot Changed Her Life Overnight—What Happened Next Was Terrifying with Naomi Kracht

What do you do when your body suddenly stops feeling safe? In this deeply raw and hope-filled episode of the Hope Unlocked podcast, Naomi Kracht shares the full arc of her testimony—from surviving a traumatic brain injury and fighting her way back, to facing a devastating health collapse she connects to a COVID vaccine reaction. Naomi opens up about terrifying autonomic nervous system symptoms, losing stability in her body, the emotional toll of being dismissed by doctors, and the isolation that comes with invisible illness. She also shares how faith, nervous system healing, community, and holistic wellness tools became part of her recovery journey, ultimately leading her to open Revive Me Holistic Centers in Wisconsin to help others find hope, healing, and restoration.

Naomi's contact info:

Website - revivemecenters.com

Email - info@revivemecenters.com

Book featuring Naomi's story:

The Power of YES

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Transcript

Welcome And What Hope Unlocks

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlock Podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wild-hearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations, and thrive with confidence, courage, and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwinkscoaching.net and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Naomi Kroc to the show. I'm very excited to have her on here today. We are actually connected through a beautiful, beautiful organization called Fellowship of Extraordinary Women, otherwise known as Few, led by the beautiful um Kimberly Joy. So that's how we got connected. And I don't even remember, like something prompted in me to ask you if you wanted to share um your testimonial. I can't exactly remember the fullness of how that came to be, but you gave your yes, and I am just um just so happy that you did give your yes. So before we get into your testimony and your story, would you just share a little bit about yourself?

SPEAKER_02 1:38

So I am born and raised in Wisconsin. I live just outside of Milwaukee, and I have two grown kids that are now adults and on their own. I am married to a wonderful husband, Henry Crocht, and we are empty nesters with our furry third, as we call him, Geordie, who actually became my service dog during my healing journey.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Oh, Jerry Jerry, you said geordy, as in Geordie Nelson, the Packer player. Oh, okay. Yes, you're from Wisconsin, have to remember that. Um lots of you like the Packers football team. Wow, so you have uh how old is your furry puppy? He will be eight years old this summer.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Oh my gosh, how sweet. Um he's actually sitting here right right with me. I'm inside my wellness center, and he's now transitioned more into a therapy dog. I don't even need to rely on him like I used to.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Okay. Well, as you guys can probably imagine, we're gonna want to hear more about this. So tell us about this this um healing journey you've been on, and and how how did you have this moment of needing a service dog?

Brain Injury Recovery And A Fateful Yes

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yes, so that all began back in 2021. Um at the end of 2020, I had suffered first a brain injury from a car accident.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

I searched high and low for ways to heal from that because I did not like the support or lack thereof here locally, and I knew that there were had to be something better that could heal me faster than the two-year prognosis they gave me.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

So I sought care from a neuroplasticity center in Colorado, uh, where I learned the full potential of what therapies can do to really support the body going through a challenging healing process. And I came back after that uh treatment program and I was functioning fine. However, a month later, I gave the wrong yes. I said yes to taking the Pfizer vaccine for COVID that had just started to roll out in our area, and unfortunately, I suffered a severe adverse reaction to it from that very day, from that very moment that I took it. And uh my health began to spiral uh down and really affected my nervous system, my ability to move, to think, to take care of myself. I mean, it just attacked my autonomic nervous system, and so the things that came natural, like breathing and my heart rate and my blood pressure, and everything was just so out of sync in my body. Um, and it was very concerning when I lost all sensation in the right side of my body. The right side is the side they gave the shot in. And I started losing control of my muscles and having episodes of muscle weakness, episodes of uh tachycardia, episodes of near fainting, uh, and just many, many, so many to like list. I don't really want to take up our full conversation just listing it all out, but I was really in a world of hurt and in bad shape. Yeah, and so um I noticed um that my dog Geordie, when I was walking with him, and I would feel like my muscles kind of stopped functioning, that he was you know still able to pull me forward. He was able to help me get to standing by using him as you know, kind of like a brazen, like uh he helped kind of pull me up. So once I discovered that, then we pursued getting him formally trained and certified and tested so that he was then able to go with me anywhere I needed to go in case my muscles decided to just stop working again. Like this was happening without warning. Um, the episodes of tachycardia happening without warning, and it just bring me to a near screeching halt. So I definitely needed some assistance and you know, someone at least by my side as much as they could be. And Jordy was the answer.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yes, like literally like a watchdog.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

Literally a watchdog, yes. And uh he's been my 24-7 partner and just such a blessing. I don't think I would be fully healed if it wasn't for his constant support and getting me through the roughest.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

We thank him for his his beautiful help. I I have to go back to kind of the beginning, um, you know, because I'm I'm really big on our our best yes, right? So would you be open to just even sharing a little bit of your journey into the yes? Like what led you to say yes? Um, did you know, wherever you got the shot, did they warn you of any of these things that could happen? Like what did that look like for you personally? Like what was, you know, I just kind of want to dig in a little bit for the listeners who either, you know, have stepped into this or maybe didn't, right? So like for me, I was very much like I was a voice out on the street, like working in healthcare. Like, please don't do it. So it's good to hear from you know, maybe who somebody who's listening in who was in a position like me who who said no, but want to hear like somebody who stepped into this, no judgment, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Oh no, and this is a great segue and interesting story. So I already knew better. My parents had exemptions from vaccines for me to protect me my whole life.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

So I did not have a record of taking vaccinations, however, the coercion and the fear-mongering and feeling like, okay, I just got my life back. Now I might lose the ability to rebuild it if I don't step forward and you know, take this. You know, I've still wanted to continue on building the businesses that I had at that time. I was a practicing massage therapist as well as a newly budding uh real estate investor. And we had just completed our first flip in 2020, and I really wanted to continue down that path, and so I felt that it was best to take this to have my freedom of movement and freedom of you know, going where I needed to go, and um, and I had lost kind of touch with my family and my background, you know, there was some family dynamics that separated us for over a decade, and so they weren't in my circle of influence at the time when I gave that terrible yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Um I had the wrong circle around me that was pushing me and encouraging me to do it along with them, and so that's how I stepped into this. But I will definitely share with you. Um uh, if you read my story in the power of yes, you will find out that this is predestined, this is the mountain that God needed me to be on. Yeah, my parents were both vaccine injured, so they knew they knew the horrors of it, they lived it, oh my god, and um, they fought, they fought for Wisconsin to retain the right to exemptions.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

And oh wow, like how many years ago?

SPEAKER_02 10:01

I watched this, was I was just a little child watching them do these activities and fight for that protection, as well as um they were connected with other families that had had the worst-case scenarios happen. So I'll share just briefly like a story about Scotty Grant, who were friends with his family. My parents uh fought alongside Marge Grant and their family, you know, to really bring change and have this openness discussion about what was happening around the DPT shots, is which is what injured Scotty, and that really touched me, you know. So it's kind of like, you know, vaccines and vaccine injury just kind of kept like bubbling up in my life. So it was just one of those things where it was kind of like unavoidable, like I was predestined to go through this, so then I could turn it around for good. That's that's here I am, what I'm doing now that I have made it through the other side of my healing journey.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

How many years ago was it that your parents were like in the fight or they were in it in the 80s?

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Uh the early, yes, the the liability protection had just been signed by President Reagan, and there was just this panic, you know, for those that were suffering these injuries from the DPT shot, which was one of the major factors of why the pharmaceutical industry pushed for that protection because they knew it was damaging a lot of lives, and if they did not get protection, they were gonna lose all of their wealth. Yeah, it's so evil. So evil, yes. So I watched them in the infancy of like this this battle, this line in the sand that had been drawn in the 80s, and so many people that were harmed by that decision and harmed by the products that were out there. And unfortunately, what that one act did, it gave the industry the protection. So, like the development of all these extra vaccines just skyrocketed and ballooned the vaccine schedule from I think it was originally just 12 all the way up to I think it's it's crazy 70 plus or more. I mean, and it's just getting out of control, and it's like, please, let's just talk and stop this insanity, let's take a look at what they're putting in our bodies because unbeknownst to me at the time that I took my Kova chat, it was full of metals, it was full of things that I would definitely not consent to, and they intentionally left that information out of the public viewing. And if you looked at the inserts that came with the vaccine itself, there's print at the top that said intentionally left blank. I saw this out after the fact that it did me damage.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

I was like, wait a moment. Yes, wait a moment. Yeah, I mean, it's and but at the same point, like what would you say to somebody? I I actually have a a gal that um that I know who is actually helping teens in like a health class learn how to read package inserts, like as part of a health class. I think that's incredible because, you know, for those who, you know, like for me personally, years ago, I just trusted everything the doctor said until I woke up because I had some moments of like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Um, what would you say to somebody who is just kind of blindly following maybe a medication or a vaccine, whether it's for themselves or their kids? Like, what would you do different now? Like, would you what would you do different? I guess that's kind of my question that I'm getting at. Would you read the inserts? Like, what would you do?

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Oh, yeah. I read the inserts. If the inserts don't make sense, I look up what they the terms are or what the particular ingredients do. So I go layers deeper to understand what that can do to my body, you know. So now I do my own risk analysis before I even consider taking the supplements. You know, I have to understand is this right for my body? What should I anticipate feeling? What should I look out for? What are the positive signs that it's working? So I know that it's good and to continue versus these are the warning signs. Uh, and I would definitely like educating people on that whole research process. Yeah. Until this happened to me, I didn't know how to like uh look through a research paper and find like some critical key pieces that validate whether this is good research to trust or not. Look up who's funding it. And if it's the pharmaceutical funding the research for their product, okay, well then it's highly biased and you cannot trust it and do not move forward with that research paper. So these are critical skills that I think would benefit any like teen or young adult who's gonna like start to make their own decisions very soon, they need to be equipped with those skills. Yeah otherwise they're gonna suffer the consequences, just like I did.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Yeah, absolutely. Have you like so on on this path? Um, you know, he's he's using this this situation and and turning it for good. Um, Romans 8 28 is what's coming to mind. So since this has happened, um you were dealing with a lot of very like adverse reactions. Um, your body was obviously having a lot of turmoil from what was in the shot. And how like how quickly did you experience these things?

SPEAKER_02 17:03

Well, I felt some immediate effects, like my heart was beating out of my chest. I was suddenly nauseous, like I had been poisoned.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yeah, and little did I know that um they took the directive away to aspirate the needle before you move forward. And that's a key thing to realize, you know, not only were they rolling these out, they were rolling them out in an unsafe manner. So I fully believe that removing that instruction is what led me to be injected into a vein instead of the muscle. I should never have tasted it, and I tasted it.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

It was they put it in your vein, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

So not only did I take a product, it went straight into the vein and straight into the area where it wasn't supposed to, because they removed that directive to aspirate before you inoculate. Um, and so that step was missing, and I paid the price. Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Can I ask? Like, was this done like at a clinic? Was it done at a pharmacy?

SPEAKER_02 18:10

This is another interesting part of the story. Like an auto body shop. No, we went to Lambo Field of all places. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

Yes, were you at a football game?

SPEAKER_02 18:23

No, okay, it was off season. Uh so they were using the the large venue to offer like these uh vaccine clinics so people could come in the hundreds, you know, and you sit there in the seating, you you filled out the paperwork, you signed, you know, off on the authorization, and then you waited, and then they would just you know inoculate you and then move on to the next. Like while you're sitting in the stands. No, this was actually inside. I think at first time we went there, it was in like the rotunda. Oh, okay. No, no, and it was different. And then the the second shot was the one that injured me. That was actually given to us on the the uh club level, so these luxury suites, so that we were in this like atmosphere of luxury. Um, and they had it's set up a different that time, so they so they made it more private, smaller spaced. And I'm like looking back at it now, I was like, huh, I bet that was intentionally done that way. Um because what happened is it gave me the shot in the one room. I started reacting, I started feeling dizzy and nauseous, and and I was obviously too ill to just walk away and leave. So they instructed me to go across the hallway into a room where they already had like a gurney already set up, you know, as a CYA just in case someone had a medical emergency. And they had staff just kind of uh walking around and just you know, checking up on people post inoculation. Um, they didn't offer me any care, they didn't really offer me any proper monitoring, even. You know, you figured if I'm having palpitations, maybe they should throw a blood pressure cuff on me and keep it on. No, I didn't get that. No, they're just like just go in the other room, relax, you know, and just see if you know, you calm down, you feel better. Uh well, that probably took me well over a half an hour to even get my like heart and calm down and the dizziness and the spinning to subside. Um, I was doing uh breath work and and a meditation, you know, to really you know calm down the root my body's response, and uh it was an awful, awful, traumatic experience. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

So they left you in there by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Yeah, it's just me and my husband, uh, and they would pop their head in every now and then, you know, ask, How are you feeling now? Are you okay? Um, I did have someone run and try and find me some sort of flavored beverage. Like I was so disgusted by that taste that was stuck in my mouth. I said, just give me a just give me something flavored. I just don't want to taste this. What did it take? Was it like a metal taste? It was a metal taste, yes. And I mean, there's a heavy amount of aluminum in all these shots, so you know it's something that you should never really taste because it should never really go into your body in that manner.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Okay, so I have to go back a little bit. So you had the first shot at Lambo, and then the second shot at Lambeau. How long between did they like did they suggest a certain amount of time between, or did you like just kind of decide?

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yes, no, they definitely had a set schedule and they made us set up our second appointment at the time of the first, and they were spacing it out three weeks. So my first three three weeks. Oh my goodness, yeah, so not even a full month um to see how the body was gonna respond. But they like rolled out that second one within three weeks, and I had my first one on April 21st, 2021, and the second one was May 12th. 2021. And this is uh kind of ironic. I recently stumbled back upon that original vaccination card that they gave me just recently. It stumbled out of my papers at a sorting for you. I'm like, ugh, just disgusted by looking at it now.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

Oh my gosh. Okay. So you're you're in this room, you're not getting much help. Like, what what comes next? Like, uh, I mean, I would have been having a hissy fit personally, but like what what happened next? Were did they just send you home? Did you go to the doctor? Did you go to the hospital? Like, what happened?

SPEAKER_02 23:16

No, they just sent me home. Uh, my husband and I were up in Green Bay for his work, and he had a full crew up there. So this was like a long-term project, and we were staying in a hotel.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

So, what I just wanted to do is get back to Geordie and just try and erase the memory of that traumatic event out of my memory, out of my mind. And it was difficult. Um, I had to cling to my husband to even walk out of the stadium. And we got to the hotel, I was just still mentally out of sorts. I mean, the physically, the heart was calming down a little bit, but I'm just like, whoa, yeah, what just happened and what am I in for? You know, so that was just the very beginnings, you know, and I didn't know how I was going to wake up and how my body was going to respond in the coming days and even months. And it didn't all hit at once.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Uh, so the uh next thing that kind of appeared, I had uh felt a pop in my right lung in my rib cage area. And this was on the drive back home, uh a little over 24 hours later. And I'm like, okay, well, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Like a really like a painful kind of pop, a painful kind of pop.

Testing Without Answers And System Trauma

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Yeah, like I just kind of cracked a rib, you know, bruised the rib, uh, you know, and I thought it was maybe from like the you know, the bouncing of the van, because his van is pretty big and it's definitely not a smooth ride. So I'm I was already trying to kind of excuse it away, like, oh, this can't be happening, this can't be, you know. But uh day by day I was like getting sicker, like the pain in the the rib cage would just not go away. I couldn't take a deep breath. Uh it was I was starting to feel some uh nerve pain, neuropathy kind of start to shoot down the right side of my body. Uh so I'm like, uh-oh. I've had a pinched nerve before, so that sensation was familiar. And I'm like, okay, this is not good. And then started looking up, like I at this time I didn't even, I had just let go of my health insurance like months before. Oh wow. Um and didn't have an active plan. So before I could even consider going in to be seen, I had to go to the marketplace, pick out a plan, and then choose who I wanted to try to see. I knew that time meant um nerves, nerve health. So if I let it go for too long without intervening and it went numb, that's nerve death. So I started to feel the loss of sensation and um that nerve pain turned into numbness. Like I think it was like roughly about you know six weeks in. Um it's and it morphed. And then I'm then I'm like, oh great, now I'm worried and and panicking. And I chose to actually reach out to Solstice Health here. It's like a direct primary directed primary care type of option. So it wasn't the full traditional medical system because at this point, you know, my trust had definitely been strongly damaged by my experiences. And so I decided to work with a nurse practitioner. And at least this way, working with directed primary care, I could direct my own course of action. So I would say, yes, I would like to have this test run and that test run, or I'd like to see this specialist. They had referral networks already established, so they sent me in for the MRIs that I needed. They sent me to or referred me to a neurologist once they heard about the numbness and muscle weakness issues, and so uh they began kind of like the search for answers. And I went through, I kid you not, I think it was at least 12 radiological tests. Um I went through first the neurological uh specialist who tested me fully for MS, because that's what they thought in all reality. This could be the tests came back free of lesions, and so they're like, Well, this is not it. We don't know what it is. You still like measure with the deficits, and but we have no answers for you. And this became basically just like a running theme. Answer was no answer.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Yes. Now, did you like when you went in, did you tell them like of your experience uh after that second shot? Like you you knew, like, did you did you know at that point and share with them that you knew that this was from that shot?

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Yeah, it took a couple months to fully accept that it all this was happening because of the shot and to start speaking up about it and advocating. I'm not sure if I mentioned it to the neurologist at first because I was still like thinking, well, maybe this is just a mess, and you know, so I was almost to the point of accepting that as my diagnosis and my reality. Yeah, uh, it wasn't I think until about August where it's just like, okay, no, and I saw like this interview that Senator Johnson had hosted a press conference in June in Milwaukee. My friend actually sent me that recording, my friend Brian. He says, You need to see this. This could explain what you're going through. And then it was like confirmation 100%. I'm like, okay, this is the cause. Now what do I do? You know, and then I started really becoming outspoken with any other doctor that I had to go to. They sent me to a hematologist, they sent me to rheumatologist. Um took a really super long time to get into the pulmonologist, which was ironic because in one of the first imaging tests that I ever took during this time, they discovered that I had developed a pleural effusion. Going back to that pop in my rib cage, that is where it started.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

And what is that for those who don't know what that means?

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Yeah, so that is the buildup of fluids between your lung and your ribcage. So that explained why I was feeling that pain because my that the there was this pocket of fluid that was basically rubbing and and being very abrasive against that area, against the pericardium, you know, in the in the uh rib cage there. So incredibly painful. And that was my one and only like true like diagnosis and indisputable answer I ever got, uh, ironically. Really? Yeah, but they should have seen that pleural effusion and sent me to a pulmonologist way sooner. It took like I think nine to ten months to get in with him. And here I sat with fluid in that area this whole time, making it really difficult on my breathing. And it also, you know, seemed to stress my heart, you know, having that fluid imbalance and pressure. So yeah, I I anytime that I spoke up about the connection to the vaccine is where they'd shut me down.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Yeah, I was gonna ask because that's what I I you know, because I was researching a lot too, and you know, I'm like I said, I was I was doing a lot of things, and um, that's what I kept hearing is that anytime somebody would mention if if they had an adverse reaction or what have you, they they would just be like, Nope, that's not possible. And it's like, wait, wait, wait a second. So how did you I don't know, how did you cut through all of this? And and I have to ask, you know, you just had gotten on insurance. This had to have cost you like just a ton of money out of pocket, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Yeah. Um, it makes me sick to my stomach to think how much money we had to spend. Um I have not had the courage to even do a full accounting yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Well, make sure you're probably looking beyond what you expected.

SPEAKER_02 32:07

Beyond, beyond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Maybe it's better not to know. Um so you know, eventually you you're you're on the other side now. So what what did that journey look like between, you know, those nine, 10 months of like kind of being thrown around the system? What what did you do out after that point then?

Surrender And Nervous System Re-Regulation

SPEAKER_02 32:30

It came to like I would say my awakening to realizing the matter of this situation, that if I continued to pursue the path working with the the medical system, what it was doing to me was more traumatizing. It was setting me back in my healing rather than helping me. Um, and one of my good friends, Mike, he was a radiologist, he uh actually said, Hey, he realized that this is a new product, and these are new new things, new issues coming about that they have no clue, number one, how to test for, they have no clue how to address. So it's like, stop trying to bark up the wrong tree, give it time, let the science catch up. And I said, Okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And I began like going on this quest quest for the real truth, the real truth about how our bodies work, you know, how our bodies are designed. Um, because I've started seeing a lot of inconsistencies uh in what my body was feeling and what my body was telling me, and what traditional medical knowledge was pushing us towards. Like I was dealing with gastroparesis for that whole first year. So it was basically my stomach um was very slow to move foods through and digest, so it would cause this pain, painful bloating. I would feel nauseous, even just trying to eat just a few bites of food. It was incredibly painful and challenging. But I was living in this paradigm where oh, we gotta have three meals a day, and if you're not eating, then this is bad. So I was still forcing myself to eat and to try and get three meals down, and it was just a disservice to my body because what it needed was that full rest so it could heal itself so that my gut could heal itself and focus on you know responding to what was going on, which was you know all triggered by the vaccine. So um, that is kind of where like things started to like turn, you know. I exited the system, I started doing my own research and and seeking the truth. And then from there, you know, I was still like really spiraling and pain, the pain started kind of creeping in. So I went through like this weird kind of roller coaster of neuropathy at first and then numbness, and then back up to like unimaginable pain all throughout my spine this time. It like felt so bad, and like it felt I could feel it like it was in my spinal fluid, and so I begged for uh a lumbar puncture a couple of times, you know. Wow, but I knew it's like okay, nope, they're not even gonna have an answer for me, even with that painful procedure. And thankfully they said no. And I'm like, you know, if I can't trust in man and man doesn't know what's going on, uh, I better seek God's help with this. And I got to that point of just okay, like utter surrender. This pain. Yes, please do not let me wake up for another day of this torture unless you start showing me what to do. I just let go and let God, and I said that was my first, you know, big yes that to surrender, surrender to his way and his guidance. Yeah, and that's when my journey began towards healing. Um back then, uh, there was still not a lot known about what was going on, so I didn't have like a protocol or anything to follow to help me heal. So what he led me to was first kind of like work on my mind and my emotions. So getting that under control and getting that under control then helped me start to re-regulate my nervous system. I was seeking care uh with a muscle system specialist because of the muscle dysfunction, you know, thinking that well, maybe her therapy could help activate some of the function in my muscles. And it did, but it wasn't always lasting. And then she's like, Well, I think this is truly connected to the shot and the nervous system. So, Emily, she helped talk me through what was going on with my body. We were problem solving, we were trying to figure out things that I could do that would be a benefit that would help. Um, so that was huge help in the very beginning. And that cranial cranial sacral therapy that she offered me weekly, my body responded very, very well towards. Um, looking back on it now, I think that was critical in the early stages of it because now I was starting to dial back the overactive nervous system. You know, it takes the nervous system is the longest to heal. Okay, so I'm glad that uh God pointed me in that direction right away, you know, and then taking away the mental and the emotional turmoil from it, you know. I had to kind of quiet down that that chaos inside of me and to really be silence myself to hear his guidance, yes, and then to lead to the next thing that I needed to learn or the next person that I needed to uh work with. Uh, and he led that just so beautifully.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Oh, he's so good like that. If we just get still enough and surrender too, right, to the process.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

I was learning things like meditation and following epigenetics and Dr. Joe de Spenza's work, and I'd actually gotten to a point of of getting to some success with that, and it got me into a spontaneous remission from my symptoms for like almost a couple months.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Just from that work, I hadn't done any supplementation, I hadn't done anything out of like the extreme ordinary, um, besides just looking for what are my options, what's out there. It would became this like full-on exploration, uh, and learning the things that were not so mainstream. So leaning in and leveraging those things really brought about some amazing progress. Um, unfortunately, it wasn't like permanent at first because I suffered injuries to my knees, and so I had was definitely desperately needing a knee replacement of both knees.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Um, and so I took that remission time as a sign of, oh, maybe I can work on my knees now because I need to get at least one repaired so I could start to walk better. Uh, unfortunately, that sent me into a pretty serious relapse just within like, well, right after I noticed things going wrong. Uh, I had zero pain management with that first uh knee replacement. It was very challenging because my nervous system was sent back into that state of kind of shock and overwhelm again. Um, so I made some like stumbled and you know, made some bad decisions here and there, but God still is so good and pointed me to that next person or that next answer. And for me, that took a lot of learning how to be patient and learning how to listen and working with the spirit. Um, and that is right around the time where the fellowship of extraordinary women came into my life. It was in March of 2022. I was still incredibly sick. Um, and I knew that I definitely needed a strong support system, and that's where my support system began. Oh wow and to blossom, and they prayed me up and loved on me. Oh so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

And and then did you have like other uh, you know, I'm just kind of thinking out loud here, but you know, in doing all your research too, did you find others who are walking a similar journey as you as well, who had had injuries and were finding a different pathway out?

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Yes, we found a community of ours virtually. Um I didn't have like any in-person connections of anyone else going through this, so there were thousands and thousands of us f collect, you know, kind of collectively coming together in these virtual support groups, mainly based off of like Facebook and other ways where we could virtually connect and talk about things.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

And um did they kick your group off? Because Facebook kicked me off a lot. Did Facebook ever try to kick the group off?

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Oh, yeah. The first reiteration of this they shut down and deleted that group, and so suddenly thousands of people were without a way to connect, and so they had to rebuild these groups, and it's not just once or twice, several times, and people like that were outspoken on social media. You know, we'd have our profiles shut down, and she'd have to create new ones, and yeah, you had to be clever, and you had to be clever about we talked about it in the general public, you know, uh on their page, you know, otherwise, you know, they'd take your post down, they would suspend your account. It was ridiculous. The that we had to overcome is to connect and start talking about this because certainly the doctors weren't listening, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:46

Right. Wow. Well, um, I'm so glad that you found people during that time because really we we do need community, especially when we're walking. I mean, we need community all the time, but especially in this like scenario where this is a new like issue, right? And did you feel alone for a long time because like nobody was really giving you any answers?

SPEAKER_02 43:13

I felt alone going through the day-to-day, like there's no way to really get through that, but to go through it on your own. My family and loved ones couldn't understand what I was feeling what I was going through, so it was very uh isolating, I would say. Very isolating because you couldn't physically feel well enough to interact with the world. You didn't have the energy or the strength to even hardly take care of yourself, and so there's this kind of gap between like I considered it the world of the living and the world of the the ill, you know? Yeah, and it was tough to navigate through that and to not feel something emotionally from it.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

And and at that point, like, were you also not able to obviously not able to do massage, but the like um you said house investment? I can't remember exactly the terminology of that.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Yeah, I was in real estate investing, and so I tried for a while, oh I think it was for several months to keep that going, but then my cognitive abilities just declined so poorly, then it was just like I was forgetting things and I was making poor decisions. And I'm like, yeah, no, this is gonna spell disaster. And then I had to give up on that too. Um, the massage therapy I had to give up really early on.

A Course That Accelerated Healing

SPEAKER_00 44:45

Yeah, that must have been so challenging. But now, like, like fast forward to now, part of why I wanted to have you on was to share where you are now and how you've like literally, I like to call it flip the script in so many different ways. Um, tell us a little bit about how you are actually like literally flipping the script here.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Yes. So the turning point for me physically in my healing journey came when I was introduced to a naturopath. Uh Dr. Henry Ely was designing um an educational course to help the vaccine injured. Now, at the time he was doing some free clinics, so he would come in and just kind of like help talk and guide us through, you know, some of the things that we could consider doing, you know. Um, it was this was all virtual. Oh wonderful. Okay, but he was the first to really just um offer his services without an absorbing fee. I mean, there were some doctors helping, but it was mainly telehealth, and it was very expensive to get their services. Um, so he was doing the free clinics, and then he launched his class, the Art of Cellular Healing, in February of 2023. And I jumped on board immediately. I had already gained or trusted him just from the interactions from all those free clinics, and I knew that he was knowledgeable and he was loving, and he was to be trustworthy, and you know, I just felt like this goodness and this connection, like you know, when you when you meet the people you're supposed to meet, you know, your soul tribe is kind of connecting all uh organically. Um, that's what I felt when I took that course. Um, and I dove into the work. I I he had designed uh sorry, uh a sequence, a healing sequence. Okay, so it wasn't just a blind protocol. Here is 40 things that you can take and no other guidance. No, he had a full robust system already, you know, developed for us, and all we had to do is just trust and follow and do the work. Um, and he taught us how to do that work, and it was so it was through that articellular healing process that my body began to heal itself. Wow, I had energy again, and I started having a functioning stomach. And boy, that was like a huge turning point with those two things. The healing sped up exponentially, and by the end of that first round of the course was like I think took us three months or so to complete. I was fully recovered by the end, fully in three months, yeah. And I mean, wow, yeah, and I I I attribute that a lot to like the work that God led me to up and prior to that time, you know. So I was my body was well positioned and ready to heal. I just needed to do the right things in the right order. Um, and so once he kind of showed us how to do that, I mean, my body responded very quickly. And uh it took longer, it depends because we are all, you know, a product of all the bioaccumulation of all of our choices and all of our upbringing. So my parents were uh, I guess you would call them a bit crunchy, you know, so they're more natural, they never had a microwave in the house, they cooked home cooked foods all the time, so not a lot of like experience with processed foods, and they were all into supplementation, and so they were into these healthy practices, even with our water. We never drank the tap water, we always went to this well, this iron well that we have local in Milwaukee, you know. So they were doing the right thing, so I didn't have like this huge.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

So they were on the cutting edge, yeah.

Building Revive Me Holistic Centers

SPEAKER_02 49:05

You know, so I was lucky to have that, so it was less challenging, I think, you know, for me then to have the re quick results that I had. For others, you know, they'd had taken the whole sequence of all the shots, you know, and so it was gonna take a lot longer for some people to recover than others. I was just very blessed to kind of have that environment in that background. So my body responded very well very quickly, and I just thanked the Lord that you know he gave me that experience, and then I became certified then in that program, the art of cellular healing. And to this very day, I still am involved as a teacher's aide, so we're like kicking off our next group of students at the end of this month. So it's work that I very much love, yeah, and it's very meaningful because this is tough, and you need a support system, you need a group of people, especially to do the courageous work that you need to do. And this is at times very physically challenging going through these stages, and you know, the detox and cleansing process can just yeah, be tough. Um, so that made all the difference in the world, and that's just kind of like you know, that next aha or that next yes that I had to give is like, okay, now you've obtained all these experiences, the knowledge, you have some certifications now that you're accumulating. What's the next step? And and God put it on my heart that you know no one else was going to be able to create these support systems and care options besides the injured themselves at times. Um, and so I got to work uh researching what I wanted to bring into my practice, the therapy choices, um, how I how I wanted to provide it, structure it. And so I was called then to create um my own nonprofit. I'm actually registered as a 508 C1A, which is a private membership association, or it's also called Private Ministerial Association. So I very much felt like, yes, this is what I need, a different solution for the problem, where it's more a healthcare ministry. I wanted to walk alongside them in their process, not just, you know, give them a therapy and then let them walk out the doors. So I began work on kind of pulling all these pieces together. And that journey, you know, took a lot of time, a lot of resources, finances, and I had to take my time with it because I lost all my wealth when I lost my health, you know. So it's just rebuilding and relying on my husband and his generosity to be able to make that next step, that next purchase of a therapeutic device, and you know, to finally be able to get to a point where in 2025 where I was able to open up my first center. Um, I still have goals and intentions of like, okay, now it's you know, figure this out and then be able to teach and scale it. So I intentionally chose Revive Me Holistic Centers as my P as my uh nonprofit name, knowing that I wanted to either like grow and expand into other areas of the country. And I wanted to like create this opportunity now for people where they can come, get the compassion and care that we truly deserved.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Yes. So if somebody comes there, like what what happens when they walk in the door? Like what can they experience? What do they what are you offering there?

SPEAKER_02 53:17

Well, and this there's gonna be quite a mouthful here. I offer um eight hands-on therapies, I also offer health coaching, uh massage therapy. I have some access to assessment tools. So I do uh a bioenergetic scan. They walk in, we sit down first and do a consult. We talk about what's going on with them and we do the assessment process. And I sit and I kind of like sort through the data and do like a little more research and like make some recommendations. Uh and the way I structured with the therapies I chose is that they are very synergistic, you know, and it creates its own kind of like sequence in and of itself. So uh vibration plate therapy gets the lymph flowing, uh, which is most important. You need your eliminate elimination channels open. And if you're gonna detox, you need that vibration plate therapy to get that uh lymph moving through the body and releasing the toxins out of the body. Uh, so from there I have red light therapy and PEMF uh and sauna, those I consider like kind of like my core foundational therapies that anybody dealing with anything should be doing at least those four. But I also knew a large percentage of vaccine injured were experiencing neurological issues, and so I looked into the therapies that could support that type of healing, uh, added in RTMS, which was very beneficial in helping me heal my brain from the brain injury the first time. So I knew that it was very effective. Uh also heard tremendous things about hyperbaric oxygen therapy, so I've included that as well. Um, and some other lesser-known ones that are more frequency-based healing. Um, I have um AOH mind engagement therapy, so it's using light stimulation with the eyes, um, and sound therapy to basically harmonize the frequencies that are meeting together. So there's um, I don't know if you know a lot about binaural beats and how it's administered. You have one tone in the left ear and a different tone in the right, and then it meets in the middle in the brain where it processes, and basically it creates this coherence within the brain. So you're helping to retrain the brain, which is very critically important when you're dealing with the dysfunctions and the nervous system conditions that we are experiencing. So it's putting together all these little pieces as I discovered them. And I still have, like, of course, a wish list of other things that I want to build and add on. But I mean, the core therapies I think very lend very well to help a person not just um feel better temporarily, but if you consistently use them, yeah, you're going to get the progress building upon each other. Um I also use cryotherapy to actually activate the vagus nerve. So that cold therapy stimulates that vagus nerve response and helps the vagus nerve tone and heal. So uh incredible. Yeah, it's just God sent how I've been evil, even able to experience and discover these things and and kind of have this knowing that yes, this is the this is the right step forward, you know, and then being able then and then another piece of this too is just like, okay, well, I went and I tried a lot of different wellness centers, you know, I checked out a lot of different places. What I came across was like this barrier of well, this is way too expensive because they were like offering it, you know, these really high session prices. And it's like, well, I'm lucky if I can afford to do it once or like once a month, and then you're not gonna make the progress with that. And so I'm like, well, okay, well, I have to figure out a solution to this.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:52

So when I opened up my doors, I felt called to offer more of a membership type experience where they come in and they are encouraged to use these therapies at least two to three times a week, you know, and I made it affordable enough for these memberships that they can have like this place to call their healing home.

SPEAKER_01 58:16

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

And I offer also like the the coaching to go with it. I have a healing library full of books and resources for them to read, learn, and discover things on their own. I coupled that with now I'm adding in some products and some supplements, you know, and I'm giving them like a robust opportunity full of solutions for them to cling to, you know, for I'm trying to keep it a reasonable cost uh membership, you know, and I'm sure that's gonna change as I add as I reinvest and I add in new things, but then that's why I chose the structure that I chose as a nonprofit. So now I can go for the grants and go for fundraising so I can you know in the future offer even care scholarships if I do have to increase my price, you know. I want to make care accessible, affordable, and meaningful that can set people free from a life of illness and dysfunction and back into living the life that God meant for them. Yes, living in these bodies that God has created for us and restoring it back to its divine design, basically. That's that's that's my goal.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

I love that I I just love everything you've shared. Just if you guys are listening in today, um, the journey. I mean, it's been like five years at this point now, right?

SPEAKER_01 59:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 59:51

To see, you know, like we have a choice, right? We have a choice when we go through something to I like to say kind of be a pit puller, right? We come out of the pit and we're we're given these tools and keys and revelation, and we have a moment and we can we can just say, I need to go back and get others and help them, right? So you did that, you're doing that, you're doing it like in such a beautiful way. Um where is the Revive Me Healing Center located?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

It is located in West Dallas, Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Okay. And so for people who are in the area, what would be the best way for them to get a hold of you? And then do you work with people like from abroad, like in the coaching space? How did how would that work if somebody is calling, you know, wanting to get in touch with you from let's say Florida? Is that possible at all?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

Yes, indeed. Uh they can check out my website, they can contact me through my website.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:51

Um, they can enlist my services virtually as a coach. I can even help navigate or help them with the search for a practitioner in their area that they can go to for some of these therapies.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:06

Um, I am working on the next phase, which is going to hopefully answer that next need, uh, is creating a space that they can travel to and stay while they heal. So I have some opportunities here locally, you know, to find um a hybrid property where I can have my center on the first floor and then rooms for people to stay and lodge in while they go through the educational and restorative like therapies.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

This is amazing. Naomi, thank you. Like, thank you for your yes to help set others free in their healing journey.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

Yes, is my greatest honor and blessing to be given that opportunity. And I know God's got his hand all over this, so I know it's only a matter of time for that next phase so I can create this space for people to travel to and come for care and become like a really strong resource for those that feel like they have no hope and they have no help in their area. Um I had to travel for my for my brain injury, and so I've definitely recognized all of the challenges that come with that. And I believe God took me through all of these experiences just to show me here's the problem now, here's the opportunity, here's the solution that I want you to create. And so it's just continuing to live in obedience and take those next brave steps forward.

Anchoring Verses And Living Hope

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

Um, yes, yeah. You guys, I mean, these are big brave steps to do this, it's huge. Um, I I just love everything that this this path is just beautiful that he has you on. And I know it's not, it's not always easy, right? Um, our steps of obedience are are challenging at times. And um, I just have like one more question for you. So did you have like an anchoring verse throughout this journey? Like, was there a verse that you clung to during this this you know journey that you've been on?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Yeah, there were two ones that kept repeating a lot, and that'd be James one two to four. Oh, yeah, I know. Is your pure joy? It was tough to look at my circumstances and even to consider it pure joy, but being on the other side of it, I now see the beauty in that verse, and it inspires me. It's like, okay, you're gonna go through some tough stuff, even developing this business and continuing to grow up, it is not easy. And I cling to that verse, amen, because it's gonna create the perseverance and it's gonna create the results. Um, and then Romans 8, verse 28, knowing that I said earlier, yeah. Yeah, I had that quoted to me a lot, you know. And it was like people wanted me to cling to that hope that you know God is going to take this bad and turn it into something good in the end, and and here I am living that out in my walk. Um and it's kind of ironic that uh this is one of the first podcasts that I'm really sharing my full story on, uh Hope Unlocked. Um one of my first iterations was actually as a health coach, I named mine uh infinite hope coaching. Really? Yes, the uh and in the first appearance that I make in an interview um that was actually aired was um it was uh New Hope was the docu-series title. Really? And then the title and the label that they gave under my neath my name was the Hope and Health Coach.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

So hopefully no wonder you're here.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

Yeah, no wonder I'm here. So it's just like one of those things. I was anchored in hope. Hope I can create something that will make an impact. Yeah. So that's where we have that out.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:23

I I call it the hope unlocked anchoring verse, which I always read at the end of every podcast, which I'll read right now just because we're we're talking about this. But it's may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope, which is Romans 15, 13. So goodness. I I think we might have to have you back on, you know. I I I like to give a little, a little space between um for the the next things, the next phases he has for you. I I just want to say keep going. Thank you for sharing so bravely and opening, opening, not opening, openly. Um, and I would love for you to just uh share what is the name of your website, if you could um tell us that verbally, and then I'll put it in the show notes as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:11

Sure. It is www.revivemecenters.com.

Encouragement Prayer And Closing

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

Okay, perfect. And I'll put that in the show notes. Um and as I shared with you prior to the you know start of the show, and and I do this, you know, truly for the one. Um, if you could just get somebody in mind as you're you know just sitting there that's listening in today, um, are there any words of encouragement that you'd want to share over them? And then would you pray us? Out today.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

Sure. As far as words of encouragement, I would like to just let them know that their hope for healing is not a lost cause. That yes, this journey is going to be incredibly challenging and difficult. But if you cling to God, you seek his guidance, you ask for the support that you need, it's going to come to you. There are an enormous amount of solutions still out there that I have yet to even discover. So there is always something else to learn, to try, to incorporate that may be the game changer in their story. So I just want them to stay strong, to hold on, to persevere, and to just take this as a time to lean in and create and establish this relationship, direct relationship with God, and to do the inner work, you know, that is very scary to dive into, but it is so necessary to set you free, to set you free from all the emotions and the trauma that you have experienced through this uh this challenge. And that there is hope that then, you know, to transform your lives to the best of your ability and to still make a difference out there. Um just, you know, look at what I've been able to do. And I was no one I considered special. I was not a doctor, I did not have a tremendous amount of training, um, just had uh a little bit of knowledge and a heart to help. So that's all it takes to kind of point you in that right direction and just yeah lean in and cling to that hope and that healing is yours. Um God wants to see you healed, He wants to see you, you know, live an abundant, happy life.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

Yes, thank you. That's so good. Oh, well, would you pray us out today?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:09

Thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to share you and the testimony that you've created from me of your healing grace and your love for us. You pursued me, you held me close and held me tight, and I know that you are the master healer. And I just want to pray, Lord, that you help guide us all and lead us to the truth, to the knowledge, to the true healing that we need both internally and externally, for our bodies, mind, soul, and for full abundance and happiness. I thank you, Lord, for bringing us together and giving us these opportunities to connect and to and to love on each other and to pray over each other and to help each other and to be that that loving church, that community of believers, uh, and to help create the things that need to be shared with the world. I thank you for your divine inspiration and for your loving sacrifice of your son. We uh can never thank you enough. We can never cling to you enough. I thank you, Lord, for ever being steadfast in our lives and for never giving up on us, always being there, despite how stubborn or impatient we may be. Thank you, Lord, for your goodness and your mercy, and I pray that you multiply the work out there that Lord, there is so much need, and just help grow and multiply these pockets of people and communities and solutions and help bring us all together and to unite us in love and in healing. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:31

Amen. Thank you so much, Naomi. Thank you so much for being a brave voice who's setting so many free. Definitely go check out the show notes, reach out to Naomi, check out our website if you're in the area. Definitely stop by our clinic. That is amazing. Can't wait to hear for phase two, three, four, and beyond. Uh, keep going. And thank you, listeners, for tuning in. I'll be back with another episode next week. Bye.