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Bitcoin Ben and the Future of Financial Freedom
What happens when a retired entrepreneur turns truck driver then becomes a trailblazer in the world of Bitcoin? Join us for an exhilarating conversation with Bitcoin Ben, who has transformed from life on the road to leading a movement in the Bitcoin community. Discover the significant strides Bitcoin is making under the current administration’s supportive policies and how pioneers like Ben and companies such as MicroStrategy are pushing the boundaries of digital finance. Ben shares his inspiring journey, discussing how Bitcoin can serve as a powerful tool for wealth preservation and potentially elevate America’s economic standing.
Explore the innovative world of The Bitcoin Ben Crypto Clubs, where education and community come together in vibrant hubs equipped with podcast studios and social gatherings. Ben’s passion for fostering a thriving Bitcoin ecosystem is evident as he shares his excitement the launch of the new Crypto FITZ educational app, designed to be a 24/7 resource for those eager to deepen their understanding of Bitcoin. These initiatives underscore the transformative impact of embracing Austrian economics and decentralized currencies, making the centers a welcoming space for learning and collaboration among like-minded enthusiasts.
Our discussion also highlights the critical importance of financial education and the unique opportunity present in today’s digital gold rush. With Bitcoin’s accessibility to retail investors and insights from influential figures like Michael Saylor, Ben emphasizes the potential for significant market growth. The narrative touches on the historical shift away from the gold standard and the urgency for individuals to educate themselves on Bitcoin, safeguarding their wealth against economic volatility. Celebrate the camaraderie of Crypto FITZ and Bitcoin Ben and their shared vision within the Bitcoin community as Ben’s passion for growth and collaboration shines through, painting a hopeful picture for what lies ahead in the world of digital assets.
I am so excited about having my next guest with us. He is such a trailblazer and is such an amazing believer in what's going on with Bitcoin, the future of money, hard money, sound money. He does not come from a finance background. Not come from a finance background. He's been a hard-working man, trucker and is setting the Bitcoin world on fire and doing things that no one is doing, and I'm so excited to have you with me. Bitcoin Ben, how are you, sir? Hey Bits, how are you, brother? I'm doing awesome. Now you're on the road, aren't you?
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, I am on my way up to our club up in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1:This is just amazing, what you're doing and your commitment to doing this, ben, and I respect you so much and I'm in awe of what you've been able to build leading up to this point. And now that we've got the tailwinds behind us, with such clear cut future here for Bitcoin and the digital asset space, with President Trump, the new administration, all the Bitcoin friendly people who are behind the wheel now, and the fact that these ETFs got approved, we've come a long ways in the last few years, haven't we, ben? Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:We are on the brink of the new bitch revolution, shall we call it? And Trump rasps. How amazing this is and what he has proposed is so phenomenal it really hasn't even reached the general public yet on how important this is.
Speaker 1:No, very little people understand how important this is, and it could be the only thing, by putting it on our reserves, to get us out of this darn debt hole we've been in out of this darn debt hole we've been in.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. What I want people to really grasp is, with the use of new technology blockchain, which is actually Bitcoin we are going to be able to recapitalize all of the government programs that the politicians have lied to us were in locked boxes for years. And what Trump is going to do is he's actually going to buy 125 Bitcoin and he actually going to buy 1 to 5 Bitcoin and he's going to put it into the treasury of the US government. That's the equivalent of him actually buying solid gold. That's worth right now, as we speak, $93,700 each.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's a coincidence, Ben, that you and I are talking right now as Bitcoin climbs to its all-time high.
Speaker 2:Oh, I agree it's. Every rich person knows what's going on. They're rich because they know about money. They know about wealth and preservation, and that's what the Bitcoin is it's wealth and labor preservation. And what Trump is going to do, he is going to print fiat, which basically cost us nothing.
Speaker 2:And he's going to purchase the largest energy network in the world, which is Bitcoin, which is monetized, and he's going to recapitalize America and government over the next four years. What that means is that he's going to take America from one of the most leveraged countries in the world to one of the richest countries in the world Actually, the richest.
Speaker 1:It's amazing, ben, and I don't know I'm sure you followed it and we all know what a Bitcoin proponent Michael Saylor is but today, as I'm watching Wall Street closes in about a half hour, microstrategy that went on the Bitcoin standard a few years ago. There's a squeeze going on as we speak, ben. Today, microstrategy is up $61.95 at this moment. Holy smoke, it is up to $446.74 a share. Think about that for a second. Wow, it wasn't that long ago that it was $300, went up to $1,900, came back down to 1,500, did a 10 for 1 stock split and ever since then look at this ride $446.60 a share and it's I mean, it's gone up $20 a share in the last hour.
Speaker 1:So the short squeeze is happening with MicroStrategy Word is out and also these other stocks that are directly attributable to Bitcoin, and I'm talking about Coinbase. I'm talking about CleanSpark, the Bitcoin mining company that went on the Bitcoin standard, similar Scientific that went and followed Michael Saylor's playbook, putting a similar scientific on the Bitcoin standard and stacking their sets. And it's such an exciting time. And, ben, you got in this and I want you to share your story, if you would, with our audience about how you got into this space. But you've set yourself up so perfectly and timed this so perfectly for the vision that you had for these Bitcoin Ben crypto clubs across the country. I'm so excited for you and excited for the Bitcoin community that you've led the charge and you don't come from Wall Street. You have a trucker background. Would you mind sharing us a little bit of the background history of Bitcoin Ben, your past Ben, and how did you get into the swimming pool of Bitcoin?
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, I was a truck driver. That's not the origins of who I was. I was a young entrepreneur. I launched a company that grew very healthy Good for you.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm young and you got nothing to do. You basically just want something you enjoy doing. So I had a friend who had a trucking business and I actually called him and said hey, are you looking for a driver? I'm sure Do you know. And I go me and he's like oh, you just sold your company, are you that bad off? And I said no, I'm fine. I said, but I'm bored. I said there's only so much I can go out and really do, and my wife doesn't want me around the house.
Speaker 1:Well, that's understandable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. And so I drove a truck for about I don't know, maybe six or seven years, to be in 2014. And it was in. Actually, it was already in the bank, I think I don't remember exactly when, but for this way, bitcoin was only $40.
Speaker 1:Wow, each man man, oh man, bitcoin was only $40 each man man, oh man yeah.
Speaker 2:That's incredible, and so I heard about it, and once I fully understood what it was, I knew it was just revolutionary. What it did was it was the very first currency and capital reserve system that was perfectly aligned with Austrian economics and human psychology and that always succeeds. What you do is you take a system and you actually make it into a value-added system, and then you put a price on it with a future utility. Now what made it so revolutionary was it was decentralized, which means nobody controls Right. Everyone can use it. It is basically the equivalent of oxygen Everyone uses it. No one owns all of it, and that's what the Bitcoin is, and every time you breathe it, it validates that oxygen works. Every time you use the blockchain of the Bitcoin, it validates that the network works right?
Speaker 1:well, there's millions. There's millions of nodes all over the world, as you said, decentralized, built in the protocol, and, of course, the halving, where the supply is cut in half and the reward to the miners is cut in half every four years. It's like you said. It's got more energy behind it than powers, the US Navy, yep, incredible, ben. Can we talk about the Bitcoin Bend Centers? I'm really intrigued by this. I think there's such a need for these Bitcoin Bend Centers to spread the education around the world, and you know I'm all about the education. I'm very blessed, fortunate, to have the platforms that I have Just released a new app, by the way, ben, that thing is beautiful.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much you guys have done such a great job with that.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I'm glad you got to check it out and like it. Thank you so much Coming from you. I take that very, very to heart and really appreciate it. Ben it's.
Speaker 1:We want to make it a user friendly tool and we know the challenge. You know, on the radio I've got to serve two masters. I got to serve people who are in the space, who are invested no more than the average bear. And then, obviously, with what's going on now, everyone wants to know about. What is bitcoin?
Speaker 1:I've been hearing about this. What the heck is this? Should I have some of it? Is it legal, is it, is it good, is it evil and all those questions that we get thrown at us. You know left and right forever. Well, what an opportunity for people to learn on their own, on their own time.
Speaker 1:And one o'clock in the morning you can't sleep. You want to listen to some information. We've got 24 hours a day there. It's out on the apple app store, it's up. If you have an iphone, ios, it's live. Now we are still uh gearing up. It's a little bit more complicated to get that android google play up, but we're we're making progress. Hopefully we'll be up on that in the next uh week, 10 days, something like that. So thank you so much for for uh doing what you do. So let me go back to what I was intrigued about is that you're you're many different things in one with a bitcoin bin uh center. You've got uh. You've got uh a podcast studio where people can rent it. You've got uh rooms where you do uh, you record your podcast, you do q and a's, you hold meetups and get the Bitcoin community together. You hold barbecues. It sounds like it's a very excellent. It's almost like a. It's a community set center for those in, or those are interested in, bitcoin. Is that a good explanation of what you're doing?
Speaker 2:You nailed it. It's a community.
Speaker 1:It's a community. It's a community and I feel that and I see the passion that you and your staff and those who are friends and supporters of yours and involved in these different centers, and the people that go to these centers and the people that go to these centers you really have given them a place to hang their hat and let them know that there are other people who are as interested in this and want to learn.
Speaker 2:And what a great way to exchange the information and chew it up is eventually there would reach a time where the average Joe, the average Jay, would realize what was going on and say okay, what do I do is a secure place to learn from people who are extremely passionate about what they're talking about, and our actual goal is to help the everyday Joe the plumber, the truck driver, the pizza place, the shop right down the road is educated and has a place where they can come and actually talk to a human being in a chair, look in their NBI and ask them whatever question they want.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:And that actually gives people the security of hey, we're here, we're at a physical location, we have offices, we have, like you said, it's a kind of a social education center, except it's a ton of fun. We have TV, so we have. If you like, you come over, you have a few drinks. We shouldn't talk about Bitcoin or anything really. So blockchain or economics or 401k that's awesome, whatever. I'm gay that's awesome, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, you know as well as I do, ben, we come from a boomer generation. They didn't teach us about finance in school. They didn't teach us anything about finance, health, none of that stuff. That's why it's exciting now that we're going to make America healthy again and provide people with education about what's in their food. A lot of misinformation. You know how much misinformation is out there about Bitcoin. There's misinformation out there about everything, as we know. Oh, absolutely. But I think people are really starting to connect the dots and it's really starting to sink into them about what bitcoin is, the importance of it to our financial security for our country, for ourselves personally, our families, our children, our grandchildren.
Speaker 1:Uh, hard money, uh, to be able to store your hard work and your value and not have it depreciated away and printed away. As we see, our fiat currency just constantly gets printed for whatever they need and there's nothing back in it like it used to be back in the day. You know people forget gold was confiscated back in 1933 because people were hoarding it and the government ended up taking us off the gold standard in 71, as we know. And they print fiat at will. And, of course, with the implosion of 0809, the, the financial crisis we had back then. Uh, the birth of bitcoin, uh, the fact that there is something other than fiat currency, controlled by very, uh, interesting central bankers all over the world, in each country, and the fact that you're getting I love how you said that very interesting it's.
Speaker 1:It's so, it's so great. I feel so grateful and I'm sure you share my feelings that look at what we're doing now, at this stage of life, and look how it has engaged us and look how, like you said, the Bitcoin Bin Crypto Club these are happy people who come into the club. These are not whiners and complainers and people who are looking for you know to be, to, to be given a ton of stuff. These are people who want to learn. They want to be around above average iq people, hopefully, people that they can learn from and for all the good right reasons, you know. That's that's why it's so exciting to be in this space, because everyone who I've met who knows about Bitcoin, got into it and has a little bit of understanding of it, is a positive person, excited about the future and just brings good energy to the table. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You are absolutely right, it is. This is such an amazing point in history because, as Trump won, everyone I have talked to has said there was a shift in the energy of the world. Yes, and I think what it was was it was a shift of negativity to finally America the light at the end of the progressive, horrible tunnel we've lived in for the last hundred years. So many people are seeing what Trump and Elon Musk and RFK are doing and they're like, oh my, my God, finally somebody running the government who actually cares about the people.
Speaker 1:Well, no doubt and remember, all of these people have kids, grandkids, families. They all want a good future for our country and for their legacies, and for their children and grandchildren and their offspring, and safe neighborhoods and a financial system that's not going to implode on top of them, and groceries that can be affordable again and food that can have healthy ingredients in whatever you're eating again, and being able to be able to save some money, be able to have a home. You know, so many young couples struggle nowadays with what's happened with the housing market and how that's. Once again, it's not that everything is that much more expensive. It's that the value of our dollar buys that much less. The dollar has lost 50% of its purchase power in the last six years, ben. No wonder we're all excited about Bitcoin as a hedge of inflation.
Speaker 2:Yes, and what you and I know is this is the only exit we have. Yep, there's. There is no other option. So everyone listening right now. I want you to understand Either you educate yourself on the Bitcoin or you are going to lose your wealth. You're going to work against yourself. You will hold the US currency as it loses value, and what that means is every single day that you work. A year later, you've lost a quarter of that day. It basically disappeared, and so you're working every day and you're losing your labor value. It's highway slavery. It is pure value. It's highway slavery. It is pure evil. It's slavery.
Speaker 1:Well, it's finally you know, and the thing is it's finally coming to light. You know the movie God Bless Bitcoin. I did a great interview broadcast with the co-creator, the visionary Brian Estes, who produced the movie God Bless Bitcoin. And he comes. He had a financial advisory firm that 10 years ago he sold to Wells Fargo Advisors. He said it wasn't until after he stopped being a registered investment advisor that he really knew how our financial system worked. Think about that. Yeah, and since then he has funded tens of billions of dollars of Bitcoin and blockchain companies, has really opened up many eyes to the fact that what we're talking about now you got to realize that you have to do your own research.
Speaker 1:Bitcoin Ben or Crypto Fitz cannot give you this answer in a simple one paragraph form or a simple conversation, like Ben and I are having right now. You need to do your own research. We always say, ben, we urge everyone. If you go down the rabbit hole and you got an inkling of what's going on and you get interested, I can tell I mean from my personal experience I don't know what else I would be doing right now that would bring me this much hope and this much excitement, and I feel just so blessed and grateful and lucky to have gotten the bug and to have started researching this and living it for the last several years.
Speaker 1:I started this radio show almost three years ago and a lot of my friends thought I had lost my mind. They didn't understand why I left the entertainment world. And I didn't. I just went down this hole and it was new and fresh and there were a lot of naysayers. I don't need to tell you, and they look at you sideways. But now I mean, ben, think about it.
Speaker 1:Since election day, it's only been two weeks to today day, it was around 73 grand. We've gone up over 20 grand per bitcoin and that and that obviously you know the rising tide raises all ships. The whole marketplace is on fire, as we know, and all the derivative, uh, wall street, uh, equity companies that are connected to the blockchain or Bitcoin or the crypto ecosystem. They're all on fire. Now, all of a sudden, people are driving their investment advisors crazy, going I want to get in Bitcoin, I want some Bitcoin. What do we have Bitcoin? How come I don't have Bitcoin? How come you're not offering Bitcoin to me? They must be going crazy. How come you're not offering Bitcoin to me? They must be going crazy.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. And if you think about it, we are at the. He's not even president yet.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right and wait until he implements all of these pro-crypto programs and actually now lives a very light-touch regulatory environment that lets these crypto economy grow, naturally. This is everyone listening. I want you to listen very carefully. This is the equivalent of everyone in your town riding horses, in your town riding horses and then you see, a Henry Ford on a team roll down the middle of your town and everyone looks at it and goes. Well, what the heck is that?
Speaker 1:Man, I love that analogy. I got to steal that one Ben. That's perfect.
Speaker 2:It's yours, it's so true. And what I want people to realize is right now and I say this with nothing but love in my heart for every one of your listeners Run. I'm really hearing that right now, unless you close one of my clubs, I open your phone, down both and give me a zap. Oh, thank you, sir. Download Jimmy's app. Oh, thank you, sir. And just start listening and just learn as much as you can, as fast as you can.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:And just research, because we're at the point where you can basically say that my clubs are the first. I guess they'd be the automobile dealerships that are sweeping across the nation that are sweeping across the nation and everyone's going to run in to these clubs and go give me one of them beautiful bottle beads Not teas, but beads, right exactly, give me some Bitcoin.
Speaker 1:I love it Model beads. I love Bitcoin. I love it Model Bs. I love that. I love that, Ben Right.
Speaker 2:And we will run a car wash and park it out front.
Speaker 1:And you'll put gas in it. You're not going to have an electric battery in it, are you?
Speaker 2:No, you are going to be involved in the community. You know you are going to be involved in the review.
Speaker 1:So, ben, let's go down the list now of what currently, what Bitcoin, ben crypto clubs are open and what ones are in the planning stage.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, we have one in Sarasota, florida, one in Lussey, boston, massachusetts. Wow, then we got one in Nashville, tennessee. We're launching one in St Louis, missouri, which is where I'm originally from.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:We're launching one in Texas, right by Dallas, nice, and I'm also launching an all-inclusive resort in El Salvador. That's wild.
Speaker 1:That's wild, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:The next year we'll probably open another eight and you and I actually talked about, because I love where you're at out there.
Speaker 1:Ben, we need to open one out here, and I want to work with you on making that happen.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Let's make it happen, because what we could do is actually set you up an office in there where literally all of your listeners could walk in and go. What are you doing, brother?
Speaker 1:That'd be awesome.
Speaker 2:And it's a thing. They're dealing with a trustworthy individual that they listen to every week or every day or whatever, and that's what they need. They need someone they trust and you and your history, your reputation you are the perfect person for one of these clubs should want these clubs.
Speaker 1:Well, I think everything it stands for is so great and so necessary. Ben, you know, recently I've had the honor of doing lectures college lectures for blockchain engineering, business school students and faculty, and the questions that I get from them are so great and I will speak to them about bitcoin, the blockchain space. Uh, just me just laying out some myths, some stating some facts to them. And I talk to them on a non-technical level because I tell them you need to understand the importance of what you're studying to the everyday guy and gal out on the street. I'm not here to talk tech to you, talk exahash rate with you or anything else. I'm here to talk about the real world impact of Bitcoin and the whole blockchain ecosystem and what you folks are teaching and studying. And I got to tell you I can feel it from them they're thirsty for the knowledge and they're not even getting it. A lot of them are not even getting it in school because, unfortunately, the professors need to catch up on the learning curve. You know, yeah, professors need to catch up on the learning curve, you know yeah. So that's a role that I think you will continue to spread and that I want to continue to spread on the airwaves.
Speaker 1:I just got started in Las Vegas. We're on in Phoenix. My radio affiliates are spreading.
Speaker 2:That reminds me we're actually launching a club in Las Vegas, probably April or May of next year, just before the conference Yep. Well, we got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1:Ben. Oh, yes, we do, my friend.
Speaker 2:Because we can put that word out there big time. Yep, we are at the beginning of the digital gold rush.
Speaker 1:We really are. It's fascinating and this was the first time, as we know, that the retail investor, the mom and pop, everyday guy and gal on the street, were able to get into the space before Wall Street. Think about that. You know, ipo comes out. You know, it's just, it's it's all the money's been made by the time the public gets a chance to get a piece of the pie. This time. This is the first time in financial history that everyday people got to front run the machine, the Wall Street machine, and they couldn't get in until January 11, the day after all those, all those companies got approved for their spot bitcoin etfs. So what an amazing opportunity for so many people.
Speaker 1:But you keep you and I keep drilling this in. You got to do your own research. Now I what I do, ben, for newbies, I'll you know they'll listen to me and everything. I'll'll say okay, take a step back. All right, let me send you to. Just let me give you a couple of little easy assignments to do to start you on your way.
Speaker 1:Have you read the Bitcoin white paper? Okay, satoshi Nakamoto's white paper. It's nine pages long. Might take you a few times to read it. Be patient with yourself. Take your time, the more you read it and the more you hear the terminology, the more it'll all start to make sense to you. Then I send them to my blog. I have a blog site that has simple explanations of all the terms and then, if you want to go deeper into each of those terms, you can and learn. I also am sending them because people love to watch videos, as you know, and love to watch movies. I mentioned it a little while ago. God bless bitcoin. I tell them to view that. You'll start to see the moral and ethical attributes of bitcoin and the unethical and immoral attributes of our government-printed fiat currency. That'll start to connect more dots for you.
Speaker 1:And then, if you're a reader, read Safedine Amos' the Bitcoin Standard, the Austrian economist, who goes back through the history of all these civilizations how they hyperinflated their fiat currencies out of existence, what was used for goods and services seashells, salt, all that good stuff. He doesn't even mention the word Bitcoin until three quarters of the way through the book for the readers out there. And then I tell them look at what you can find on Michael Saylor, who's the biggest Bitcoin flag waver out there with the biggest reach. Who's got after today? Lord knows.
Speaker 1:I think they've got like 18 billion dollars worth of Bitcoin on the balance sheet now. He owns well over a billion dollars himself personally over a billion dollars himself personally so obviously a lot of companies. He's got the program Bitcoin for Corporations, trying to teach other companies how to go on the Bitcoin standard, how for them to save Bitcoin, and you and I have been pretty soon and I think we're really close and some people are doing this already. If I do something for someone and we're really close and some people are doing this already if I do something for someone or we're going to do a business deal, do I have the option of getting paid in fiat or bitcoin? We know which one I'm going to take absolutely hello.
Speaker 1:So what do you think? What do you think is is going to be? What propels that tipping point? I think we're at it right now. I think this time came quicker, quicker than we imagined. Who would have thought we'd have all? Have all these tailwinds and, like you said, the mood change two weeks ago for this space and the clarity that it's bringing. Even the naysayers are not naysaying, they're actually saying okay, I haven't known much about this, but I guess I better look at it Now. Today we set an all-time high. It was just about at 94. It now. Today we set it off all-time high. You were, it was just about at 94. What's the media going to be like and what's the front page headlines going to be like soon? It could be tomorrow, it could be next week, it'll be next month. Once we hit a $100,000 price.
Speaker 2:That's going to be an economic earthquake that sends a tsunami of attention right to the Bitcoin.
Speaker 1:No doubt.
Speaker 2:And that tsunami of attention is going to be accompanied by a tsunami of wealth.
Speaker 1:Well, look at how many trillions of dollars in cash has been sitting on the sidelines, ben. It's a staggering number. Okay, trillions have been sitting on the sidelines. Not to mention the fact that all these pension funds now have an on-ramp ability to get into the space with the spot Bitcoin ETFs. Not to mention that all these asset management companies BlackRock, fidelity, grayscale, wisdomtree go down the list. They have to back the ETFs one-to-one with the underlying asset Bitcoin ETFs, one-to-one with the underlying asset Bitcoin. So there's basically we're just about at that supply shock situation because, with the halving this past April and the supply getting cut in half, there's more demand out there from all these companies alone, not to mention foreign countries that are selling their ETFs Australia, hong Kong and the market never closes. It's a 365, 24-7 marketplace. So I actually think people are going to be shocked at the moonshot that we're just about to go on.
Speaker 2:Yeah on yeah, I would not actually be surprised if, over the next three months, we are sitting $185,000 each Bitcoin, and I think that's actually being a little conservative.
Speaker 1:That's going to be incredible and we remind everyone that you don't need these numbers that ben and I are banging back and forth. You don't need to buy, you don't. If you can't buy a whole bitcoin, you can buy a fraction. There are 100 million satoshis sats in every bitcoin. But you can buy ten dollars, twenty dollars a week. You can, dollar cost average in.
Speaker 1:Just get in in the pool, learn, learn, learn, learn how to do the right thing and, as Ben said, download the CryptoFits app and also follow Bitcoin Ben on YouTube. He does great podcasts, great information. Just Google him. He's everywhere. Bitcoin Ben. If you're outside of Dallas, if you're in Boston, if you're in St Louis, if you're in Nashville, make sure you drop on by the Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club and tell them you heard Ben talking about it on the radio here with Crypto Fitz and that you want to be a part of the family and check it out. You're going to make a lot of great networking connects there. It's almost like a chamber mixer. I would think when you had those barbecues in Nashville, ben.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, we have. We have a lot of entrepreneurs who just they have been ruined with inflation and they're looking for some place where they can stay and actually would take their wealth. Well, we got it. We have the answer. We have the lifeboat, the old system, it's the Titanic.
Speaker 1:That's it, it's done.
Speaker 2:We have a space of inflation and it's going down, and it's going down and it's going down fast. So I highly recommend that you go to Jimmy and download his app. If you're near our club. We also have a website you can join and I think if you use it, jimmy's app and our website. You're going to get caught up really quick.
Speaker 1:Well, that's awesome. Quick, well, that's awesome. And don't you wish that the tools that you and I have were around when we first started looking at this space?
Speaker 2:Oh, God, yeah, it would have been a whole lot easier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know we wouldn't know as much and we wouldn't be. Hey, we are a representation of proof of work. Baby, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 2:Amen Proof of work Bitcoin, ben.
Speaker 1:I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is for you to take time. I know you're traveling and you're on your way to your club in Boston. We urge everyone to go to your website. Give us the complete website, sir.
Speaker 2:It is actually www. Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club dot com.
Speaker 1:Bitcoin Ben. Crypto Clubs plural no no club.
Speaker 2:Club Bitcoin, ben Crypto Club dot.
Speaker 1:Plural no, no. Club Club BitcoinBenCryptoClubcom. Check it out. Check the site out, you'll see. Ben holds meetups, in-person get-togethers. He comes into all the towns where the Bitcoin Ben Crypto Clubs are creating a really great positive.
Speaker 1:This is just a positive thing for you to pay attention, to Get out of the distraction of everything else that everybody tries to take you away. Everybody wants you to spend your money on stuff that's going to evaporate. Well, it's time to really dig in. None of us have been given a basic financial education. I mean going through grade school, high school, college. They still are not teaching young people about money.
Speaker 1:What is money? What's the history of money, what's the future of money, what's going on with our money and why, all of a sudden, we're hearing nothing about this debt spiral. You know, ben, in New York City many years ago I'll never forget I'm talking about late 80s You'd walk down 6th Avenue near the New York Library and there used to be a tote board up there showing the nation's debt every second. How it would go up right and we'd look at it and just people would look at it and go, hmm, isn't that interesting? And they'd keep walking and not give a second thought to it. The debt got so high that they ran. They were electronic billboards. They didn't have any more space to add another zero once the debt really really kicked in right.
Speaker 1:So now I think people are finally connecting the dots, and I actually think people are finally connecting the dots and I actually think people are paying attention more to their finances than ever, because they have to as well. That free money ride went on for a long time. There's 1% 2% interest in mortgage rates and all that, and things are going to get stabilized, but it's going to take a little while and everybody needs to be patient. You need to make the right moves because, as you can see, this is a fast moving marketplace now, because we're at that tipping point where it's gone mainstream. I mean, when you have a report on mainstream television networks about Bitcoin and crypto, you know something's up, right, ben yes, sir so, ben, I can't thank you enough for for for chatting it up with me, brother oh hey, I.
Speaker 2:I also want to say one more thing. Thank you so much. You could have easily retired, enjoyed a wonderful environment of where you live. You know, play golf. It's always gorgeous there, except with its butt as hell.
Speaker 1:But see, I'm a desert rat, it doesn't really bother me, right.
Speaker 2:But you actually chose. You know what I'm retired, I'm actually going to get out there and I'm going to help my fellow man and I'll tell you what. That's off to you, vince.
Speaker 1:Well and right back at you, ben. Thank you, sir. We both know what we get out of doing this and it's just the man sent me. I was pointed in this direction. I really feel like this is my calling and I get so much pleasure out of it, and it's what gets me out of bed every morning with a kick in my step. And what a gift to be life learners. You know we have to encourage everyone.
Speaker 1:People get discouraged there. They get bored with their JOBs, they don't like their boss, they're not happy doing what they're doing. There's a whole new world out there for you to explore and it's actually as simple as maybe watching one less movie a week or maybe not watching four football games in one day. Maybe it's taking a little time for you and your, your husband, your wife, your kids. You can have a crypto night. You can have a bitcoin night okay, people have themes when they're at home and parties and everything. You can have a bitcoin education night. There's so much education out there with what ben has what I have, not to mention all the youtube videos for those out there with what Ben has what I have, not to mention all the YouTube videos for those out there who are spreading the word and are involved in this space, and we promise that it will be an exciting ride for you and if we can even get you interested and curious looking at it, then we've done what we can do.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And how I explain it is when you were younger, you did not know how to drive a car. You had to learn. You had to. I'll say that you had to drive it, that you had your dad or your mom. Right. Someone who knew what they were doing. Yeah. And what that unlocked was every highway, every road, everywhere you wanted to go, you could now go. Well, this technology, this currency, this transition is your highway to wealth.
Speaker 1:No doubt, ben. I love your analogies, I love your comparisons. You give him, michael Saylor, a run for his money.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. He has a little bit more money than I do.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love him, I'm glad to catch him. Hey, everybody's trying to catch him, ben. Thank you so much, sir. I love him, I'm glad to catch him. Hey, everybody's trying to catch him, ben. Thank you so much, sir. Have safe travels and let's reconnect like soon and lay out a game plan, because I need to have you and I need to have a little tete-a-tete.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Fitz. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Love you too. Thank you so much for your dedication to the Bitcoin community and what you're doing and spreading the education. You're doing it in such an unlike anyone else. You've built something that's so impressive and people have no idea what it takes to put something, put anything together, let alone what you've been able to build, and and and the trajectory that you're on at this time, uh, the stars are aligning perfectly for these bitcoin ben crypto clubs and I look, uh, look, look forward to helping you spread the vision, ben.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, sir. All glory goes to God.
Speaker 1:God is great, that's for sure.