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SPEAKER_05:

I'm the worst person to have a podcast.

SPEAKER_10:

I do fairly what's up, everybody.

SPEAKER_05:

Welcome back to the Hook and Bridge Podcast. I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-host and little sister, Taylor.

SPEAKER_13:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05:

What's up, buddy?

SPEAKER_12:

Nothing much.

SPEAKER_05:

We haven't done this in a long time.

SPEAKER_12:

Long time. We've been busy. I know. It's just us. How exciting.

SPEAKER_05:

So I'm going to reveal some stuff to you.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

So on Friday. Um I did half an hour giving you a farewell because you were leaving the show.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Me and Chris did half an hour just talking about you and saying all that. Hopefully all nice things. It was. It was all nice things. And telling, you know, telling the audience how sad we were to see you go and understanding the situation. And that's crazy because they were really big shoes for Chris to fill.

SPEAKER_12:

And now I'm here. They're actually they're they're very small shoes. Don't look at my dogs. Don't look at those.

SPEAKER_05:

Um but like it was a it was a complete shock to Chris because I was like, Yeah, you know, it's just she wants to, but the schedule's not working out, blah blah blah. So he he didn't know until we were on the air. I told him on the air. So his crazy was genuine. And then a couple hours later, you texted me, I'm gonna try and make it work.

SPEAKER_12:

So, okay, so here's the thing, guys. Here's the thing. I my work schedule, Harley and I were talking about this, and I know I work eight-hour days, okay, and I get that, and I get that's a normal working time. However, I have to do opening. So like I work 4 30 until like 1, 1 30. So, you know, anywho, with that being said, I am usually in bed and asleep by this time. Like, I have been trying to like because like last night I didn't sleep very well, and it's been a whole thing. So I've been trying to like get to bed at a certain time, and then Saturdays is my one actual day off, like my guaranteed day off. And that's also Dylan's guaranteed day off. So, like, normally Friday night is when we go out to do something because neither of us have to get up early to go to work. So, like, we've been spending a lot of time with his family and going and doing things on Friday with his family, and anywho, yeah. So I am going to make an effort to set time aside for uh either uh we do this earlier in the evening or like him and I are done by like seven and we do it. I'm gonna attempt my best. But the past couple weeks, honestly, the past couple weeks we have had actual like family dinners that we've had to attend to. Like it just wasn't gonna work out. Um yeah, no, so that's that. I'm gonna try. We're gonna try, we're gonna see what happens. Uh, Starbees is wrecking me. They are working me like a dog. I got sent home early today.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a thing.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh yeah, not in a bad way. Oh yeah, yeah, no. I got there and there was nothing for me to do. And I was like, okay, that's funny because they were so slow today. And they put me on support, so like I'm supposed to go like restock and get ice, do all of these things, but all of that was done. And I said, Okay, so then what do I do? She was like, honestly, I don't know. We're all trying to just kind of trying to find things to do because athletes you can't just hang out. Like, if you hang out, you get in trouble.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure.

SPEAKER_12:

Which is like, I get it, but also there's genuinely nothing for us to do. You know what I mean? Like, just let it anywho, not the point. So I got there, there was nothing for me to do. Honestly, they could have sent me, I got sent home at like 2 30. I was supposed to work until four. They could have sent me home at 12. I had nothing to do. So then I I made a joke because the one shift lead, we switched shift leads because with me working eight hours, I go through three different shift leads. So the last shift lead, uh, he said something. I was like, oh, do you want me to go like deep clean the bathroom? He goes, I already did.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_12:

He had sent me on, I got two 10-minute breaks today.

SPEAKER_01:

Dang.

SPEAKER_12:

That never happens because we're always so busy. I'm supposed to have two 10-minute breaks. So I'm supposed to have two 10-minute breaks and a 30-minute lunch break. But like, I'm always guaranteed one 10-minute break. And then if I get another one, cool. If not, it's fine. Uh yeah. So I went on a 10 and then I did a whole trash run situation. And then he was like, I mean, I guess there's really nothing for you to do. Like, do you want to go home? And I said, Are you serious? And he says, Yeah, like I don't, like, we can handle it. Like, there's there's three of us here, and he was like, It'll be all right. I said, See you later, Don.

SPEAKER_05:

Now you know you don't get paid for those last two hours that you went home. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay, well, yeah, I clocked out. But I I worked nine and a half hours the other day, so like theoretically, it's gonna kind of equal out.

SPEAKER_05:

Right. Uh so the other thing too that'll make things easier is with me moving. Um, I'll be I'll be home earlier. You know what I mean? So I'll be which will be nice.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I'll be able to, if we need to, do the show a little earlier. Um that that'll help out. And I think that would help Chris too, doing it a little earlier.

SPEAKER_11:

I agree, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, ideally.

SPEAKER_12:

I am yeah, I am I don't know if I can put that on here, but did you were you able to reach my lips?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I think you said that you were looking to uh bomb Starbucks.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, close enough.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, I uh everybody I'm getting. That's not what you're saying.

SPEAKER_12:

It's a joke, it's a joke, it's not what I said. If you want to know what I said, you better watch this on YouTube. Anywho, so I'm currently doing that, so I'm hoping that will help the situation, and I'm you know I don't know. I'm either I'm also like I'm willing to work part-time. Like I'm not willing to take a pay cut, like it would have to match my pay.

SPEAKER_03:

Sure, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_12:

I'm willing to do part-time because I've I've put a hefty amount of money on my credit card so far. I got it down to about five grand.

SPEAKER_04:

Down? You got it down to yo.

SPEAKER_12:

I'm in a lot of debt, but like each all of my paychecks have been like a thousand plus dollars, not by much. It's been like eleven hundred, twelve hundred. So I'm just putting like nine hundred to a thousand dollars each time on my card. So hopefully that'll get paid off soon.

SPEAKER_05:

But uh, so some updates. Umdates. So we did that, we did that on Friday, me and Chris, and uh it was a half an hour show uh that I think I may release as like the ending to this show just for funsies.

SPEAKER_12:

That's super fun.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, but Lindsay was having a heck of a time with the baby, so she busted in in the middle of the show and just dropped Adam off on me and then was like, I gotta go clean some stuff up. And then he was screaming, and there was a whole thing, and then she came in and she took him back, and then she slammed the door, and I looked at Chris and I was like, I think I have to leave. And he was like, You better. And I was like, Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

What happened? What do you do?

SPEAKER_05:

Um, so the the dog uh peed on the floor, and um he was trying to like get into it. So McKenna was supposed to join us, uh, but she is unable to. She said that we have she hopes that we have a great podcast.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, yeah, I heard you were rage baiting McKenna, which is crazy because I don't even think you listened to Sabrina Carpenter's new album. Because I said that Tears was my favorite song, and I think you just ran with that and you told her that it was the worst song ever, but she called me. She called me after the birthday party and said we have to talk because why is he rage baiting me like that?

SPEAKER_05:

What does that mean? What's rage baiting mean?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, meaning that you say something to get a rise out of the other person.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh no, no, this was my genuine opinion. So I actually I actually did because I actually do enjoy music. So I'm staying in the loop on everything, so yeah, I've listened to I've listened to the new uh Sabrina Carpenter record. Um, I've listened to the new Rob Thomas record. Oh, I didn't know there was a new Robinson record record, the new Lofy record. Um, but yes, I did listen to her her whole album in its entirety, and I listened to the last one in its entirety afterwards to because to I wanted to give like a concise true analysis. Yeah, and I knew that you wouldn't do that level of research, even though you love so here's the thing is I have recently listened to both albums in their entirety.

SPEAKER_12:

Like I listen, I do that anyways.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, let's let's table that for a little bit later. We're gonna there's going to be this Sabrina Carpenter discussion. The show may go a little longer than I thought.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, buddy. I don't know if it can. I still have to eat dinner.

SPEAKER_05:

Me too. Um, so anyways, that was Friday, and then Saturday, my little boy turned one year old.

SPEAKER_13:

He's a big boy now. He's one year old, and Hems is so cute. He's such a wonderful guy.

SPEAKER_05:

We had a great little party for him.

SPEAKER_13:

Oh, it was so cute.

SPEAKER_05:

It was Hungry Caterpillar themed from the Hungry Caterpillar book from Eric Carl. Uh, it was very, very fun, very, very cool themed. Um it was a very nice venue, and you know how there's bridezillas? Yeah, no one talks about the momzillas, and I think that there should be more um uh words, more light brought to that's not the word that I'm looking for, more awareness. That's the word more awareness brought to these momzillas because turns out I married one and I didn't know.

SPEAKER_12:

I could have told you that.

SPEAKER_05:

Yo.

SPEAKER_12:

In the best way, I love her to death, but she takes Adam very seriously.

SPEAKER_05:

It started Friday night, and then it bled into most of the day on Saturday. Um, dude, Saturday? We got so the party started at 1, right? Yeah, we got there at 12:30, right? Yeah. Now, now I know everyone that knows me personally is gonna be like, it's not that big of a deal, you're a big guy, you know. And people that watch the YouTube video are probably gonna be like, eh, it's not a big deal, you're a big guy. Uh people listening, just so you know, I'm a big guy. But I woke up, I've been trying to cut back on coffee, trying real, real hard to cut back on coffee. And I woke up and I didn't drink or eat anything. I just immediately started taking care of him so that she could do what she needed to do. So then I thought, you know, a couple hours of that and I'll I'll get a break. And then a couple more hours went by and I didn't get a break, and then it was 11:30, and I was like, okay, well, I have to get a shower because I have to be a part of this party. So I got a shower, and then I got out of the shower, and I continued taking care of him, and I got yelled at all day for random things, but I didn't eat or drink anything until an hour and a half into the party. It was like 2 30 before I got anything into my body.

SPEAKER_12:

You and I are two very different people. Like I oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05:

So the first thing that I had, so we had it at an ice cream place. Shout out Beans Ice Cream in Picosin. Fantastic. Um, but we had it at this ice cream place, and uh, I went next door, so they have like a party area that is next to the actual ice cream shop, and then they close it up and you're in the party area. So I went next door to the ice cream place because I saw a picture on the wall in the party side of somebody holding coffee, and I was like, Do they have coffee? So I went next door and I was like, Do you guys have coffee? And they're like, Not only do we have coffee, but we make a cold brew shake with any flavor of ice cream that you want.

SPEAKER_13:

Wow.

SPEAKER_05:

So I got a vanilla cold brew shake, and they use stoke coffee to make it. So as soon as the girl the girl pulls out the bottle of green stoke out of the freezer, like, is that stoke? Is that how you're making this? And she was like, Yeah. I said, Listen, I'm gonna need you to pour half that bottle into the choose a shake, and I said, and then you can just give me the other half because I'm about to drink it.

SPEAKER_12:

Literally, like, here's$20. Take all of them.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh, but that shake was fucking phenomenal, dude.

SPEAKER_12:

That sounds delicious.

SPEAKER_05:

So good. I had Lindsay try some, she loved it, so then I went and got her one, and I got me a second one because as you should. It was my son's birthday.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, got him. Drink up.

SPEAKER_05:

But he had he had a blast. He had a great time.

SPEAKER_12:

That's good.

SPEAKER_05:

And then he had a great time all day yesterday and today.

SPEAKER_12:

Um was he on a sugar hike?

SPEAKER_05:

Um, he didn't have he didn't have a sugar crash. He had a I've been awake because he didn't nap either. Dude, he was up for like yeah, he was up for like seven hours straight. What a guy. Oh, he finally got home and crashed around seven, eight o'clock and was out for the night. Yeah. Go for him. He's been going through it today, though. He has been a grouchy little dude.

SPEAKER_12:

Wow, he misses the party fun.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh that's a fun. Yeah, he's he's getting he's gonna get better though. I think Dylan and I have the same chair, but in different colors.

SPEAKER_12:

You do. I said that when you got the chair.

SPEAKER_05:

Ah.

SPEAKER_12:

You really don't listen when I talk.

SPEAKER_05:

Most of the time, no.

SPEAKER_12:

I literally was I literally was like, you and Dylan have the same chair. We had a whole conversation.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, so you haven't listened to the new AJR at all, right? I want to show you one song.

SPEAKER_12:

And we're gonna make me cry.

SPEAKER_05:

No, no, no, no. Okay. Um, but we're going to we're gonna play it, but we're gonna talk during it so that we don't get copyrighted.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, but I really want your take on it because it's really, really good. It might be my new favorite AJR song, honestly. Um, it's called The Big Goodbye. And it's it's not sad. Um and the music, oh, I can't wait. I'm gonna show you the actual music video. So let's see here.

SPEAKER_12:

Well, while you show me that, we can talk about uh the situation that happened at Starbucks.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_12:

There's so much drama happening. So Lisa is leaving.

SPEAKER_03:

Lisa's leaving.

SPEAKER_12:

Yes, so she is going on a coffee break, I think they call it, or something like that, where she gets paid. I I think because she's been there for over 20 years or something, that she gets to just take a year off. What so come October? She's just like on a sabbatical for a year.

SPEAKER_03:

What?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, so and I found I found this out because Kristen said. Oh, can I use anything? Can I use actual names? I probably shouldn't, right? Can we put it on the case?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh we're not saying their last names, you're fine.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay. Um, yeah, so I think she gets paid, not like her full pay, but I think she gets some sort of compensation. Like she I think she still gets her health insurance. Yeah, but she also has like it's something you have to earn because she's been there for X amount of years. I'm 10 years away.

SPEAKER_05:

So no, I'm nine years away.

SPEAKER_12:

Nine years away. So Kristen, um, I found this out because she asked me, she said, Do you want to learn how to do tits? I said, Yeah, sure. You know, and I was like, that's random. And she goes, Yeah, well, Lisa's leaving. I said, What do you mean Lisa's leaving? Also, there's so many other people here. Why do I have to learn how to do it? I can't camp. Like that is that simple. Anywho, so there's that tea. Um, but this guy came through the line today and he had this giant order. It was like$50.

SPEAKER_05:

And which is not hard, obviously, where I would have coffees in a sandwich.

SPEAKER_12:

Literally, but he got it, it's he got three or four different coffees, um uh some sort of frappuccino, and then a refresher, I think, and then like a couple food items. Anywho, so he gets these lattes, you you and me both, buddy. So he gets these lattes, and I was over it. Like, I was tired of reading people's things back. I didn't get a lot of sleep last night, so like I wasn't reading very well. Anywho, so I was like, if everything looks correct for you on the screen, it's going to be this price, you know, kind of like a speak down forever hold your peace situation. Okay, that if I tell you if everything looks correct on the screen, and you say, Yeah, it looks good, that's it, that's your order. That's what you're getting. It's that simple. All right, so for any of you listening, that's on you dog. He pays for it, but doesn't question the price or anything, pays for it. I hand him out these drinks, and he goes, We're not supposed to have three lattes. I said, Wow, that's crazy. I was like, Did you read the screen when I asked you if everything was right? Yeah. I said, Okay, well, the three lattes were on the screen, and also they were different types of lattes, and I definitely was like, This latte, this latte, this latte. And you said, Yes. And he was like, Well, we're not supposed to have three. I said, Do you want me to have someone come over here and take it off? No, I guess it's fine. And he was like mad about it. I'm like, please don't come back. Sorry. And then I had another guy come in who wanted an iced espresso shot with like all of these things, and he was super nice. But we're going through everything, and he goes, and then I want two side cups of ice. And I said, Okay, so I go through everything, and I tell him everything that's in his iced espresso with the two things of ice. And he's a regular, so I had someone come over and even help me. She was like, Yeah, this is how he likes it. Please tell me why he gets it. And he goes, Oh no, I didn't want ice in the espresso. And I was like, I literally asked you if you still wanted ice in the espresso, or if you just wanted the espresso and then your separate cup of ice, and you're like, No ice in the espresso. I cannot make this up, anywho. So then he was like, Do you want me to pay for it for like a new one? I said, No, we'll remake it, it's fine. Also, for those of you listening, I don't actually tell the people this. I'm very nice, except for the guy that came through the drink. I told him because that's wild. Anywho, then he goes, Oh, well, are you sure? Like, are you just gonna throw these out? I said, You can just have you know like you can have these these twos. But like this dude left with like five espresso, like like venti espresso. Yeah, it was crazy. And he was like, This seems like a lot of coffee. I said, Yeah, you're gonna be juiced up. Like, my bad. Anyhow, then I got some home early. Trying to think. Dylan and I are having um fighting problems at the gym with some old ladies. So there's that drama. Yeah. Do you want to play the AJR album over this? Or under this?

SPEAKER_05:

No, but I want you to to give your opinion on.

SPEAKER_12:

So then what are we gonna talk about?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, we got plenty to talk about about.

SPEAKER_12:

No, I meant like while the video is playing.

SPEAKER_05:

We're gonna talk about the video and the song.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, well then for I was I was giving you filler information. Never mind. Oh, you really? Sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Alright, here comes. Um, let me turn the volume down a little bit though. Cause she's gonna be a little loud. Alright, ready?

SPEAKER_08:

Mm-hmm. Oh well, here we go again. Let me know if that's 525, really, give me 30, make it 30 really given. No, that's okay.

SPEAKER_05:

I love like the auctioneer thing in the beginning.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah.

unknown:

525, really, give me 30, make it 30, really.

SPEAKER_05:

Dude, the beat on this thing is sick. I love it.

SPEAKER_12:

We gotta get one of those. It kind of looks like um Adam's hip hop board.

SPEAKER_05:

It does.

SPEAKER_12:

This video Adam did that.

SPEAKER_05:

This video was so well shot.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So they uh for everybody that's in the audience that's uh not watching and just listening with us. Uh this new AJR song is filmed in a bar. Yeah. Um and it reminds me of like Tears.

SPEAKER_06:

It does. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_05:

Or like a like a shitty TJI Friday.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh what?

SPEAKER_05:

Like a shitty TJI Friday.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I'm used to.

SPEAKER_12:

Honestly, I think there's a little bar that looks like that in Ohio.

SPEAKER_08:

And I should be so happy I could cry.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, this breakdown's so good.

SPEAKER_08:

This is what a happy end looks like. Someone down in my hand.

SPEAKER_04:

I love that they added the port too. Looking for an ad whatever.

SPEAKER_12:

I like that the hat is just, you know, it's just part of the mouth.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, have you noticed his uh his pin white t-shirt dude is it's got a heart on it now.

SPEAKER_09:

Oh no, I can't come in here.

SPEAKER_04:

Ah, it's on the green garden!

SPEAKER_08:

And my whole life could sound like this.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I love that.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_04:

Chris also listened to the entire album.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, did he cry?

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, he doesn't even like them. He was like, eh, it's like Really?

SPEAKER_12:

I love his voice.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Like it's such a clean, like, I'm a big fan of Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04:

It's also super like a bad boy.

SPEAKER_09:

Nobody's not gonna be like, I'll be number one.

SPEAKER_04:

Drum the player's still hanging out with the drama.

SPEAKER_09:

For the first time in years. But I need the window.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_12:

Or at least like all the brats. And sound like this.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, that little piano breakdown.

SPEAKER_08:

Don't turn around, kid.

SPEAKER_05:

So I was talking to Lindy about the song and um trying to figure out. I think that this is gone is uh like the reprise for that one song that they had on it was called uh Come Hang Out. Where it's like Come Hang Out. Um, I think it's the reprise. I think the the chord structure is the same, and this is like the follow-up to it.

SPEAKER_10:

Alright then.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, do so good.

SPEAKER_08:

Just make it sound like that.

SPEAKER_05:

I just love the auctioner part. I think I just I really love that.

SPEAKER_11:

It's also crazy that like they do all of this on like three things, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I mean what's crazy is that they produce the entire thing themselves. Start to finish, they do all of it on their own.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. Jack of all trades.

SPEAKER_05:

They hire these and tell them what to do.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah. And some they are saying about the shit out, dude.

SPEAKER_12:

You know how much money they save doing that?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, I'm sure. Well, they also own their own label, too.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, they did. I think they're signed to somebody now. Ah, but anyways, uh, that was uh that was the big goodbye. And for the audience, Taylor and I are going to do a special engagement where we sit down and listen to that album front to back, just the two of us, and dive in emotionally. So stay tuned for that.

SPEAKER_11:

Um excited.

SPEAKER_05:

That's gonna be on YouTube only. That is gonna be a uh live stream. No, we won't do it live. We won't do it live.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, it won't be it won't be a live stream, it'll just be a YouTube only show. Um, so yeah. Anyways, um, so Adam turned one. We talked about your Starbucks adventures. Tell me about this gym situation.

SPEAKER_12:

Sorry, standby. Oh, she's laughing. No, I was so I was concerned. It sounded like a scary screen, but it's laughing. We're good. Okay, so gym situation. So Dylan and I have been going to the gym, and Dylan used to live in a different part of Florida, and then they moved to where we are now, right? Now the different part of Florida that he lived in had the same gym, it's like a like a gym chain situation.

SPEAKER_05:

What's the name of it?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, it's LA Fitness.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_12:

So, and with LA Fitness, you have a home gym, and then any other LA Fitness that you want to go to, you had to pay ten dollars to get to, which is crazy. That's that's crazy. Anywho, we signed up. I already had issues when we signed up because the guy like didn't talk to me, like he was just talking to Dylan. Like, Dylan came, like, we went in together and he was like, Hey, can you help me get her signed up? Like, we can't do it online, obviously, we have to do it here. And he was like, Oh, yeah, like no problem, blah blah blah blah blah. Takes me back, a lady was helping me, she was talking to me, like explaining everything to me, but he was only talking to Dylan, even when he was explaining like the facility, and Dylan has been to this gym before, he's had his membership since 2020, but even when he was explaining the facility, he was only talking to Dylan. And I was like, Okay, you know, whatever. I'm not gonna think about how that until he told Dylan, he said, What type of membership would you like her to have? Yeah, so that I was like, Well, that's what it's My credit card. It's my debit card. He's not paying for this. This is my membership. Yeah. Which is the reaction everyone should have.

SPEAKER_03:

Dude, that is crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

That's what he said. I was like, okay. Like, rugs me the wrong way, but sometimes I look too too far into things. So I said, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_05:

I was gonna no, that was not too far. Did Dylan fight him?

SPEAKER_12:

No, he didn't say like he didn't realize. Oh, like he didn't even think twice about it. Well, I told him while we were walking, I was like, I didn't like how that was. And he was like, Well, maybe he didn't like mean anything by it. I think he just meant because I know more about the gym. And I said, asking you what type of membership you want me to have is crazy. Is this the 1950s? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_05:

Dude, it's it's layered too, because it's like it's the idea of like he's deciding, he thinks that men should decide everything for women, right? There's that layer, but then it's also like asking what kind of membership he thinks that you should have insinuates like what do you think she should work on as far as her body?

SPEAKER_12:

No, exactly. So yeah, so I was like, that's a wild thing. I was like, okay, but like whatever, right? The lady was really nice. I was like, oh, misogyny's insane, crazy, but whatever. So then he had also told Dylan, he said, Do you live here now? And Dylan was like, Yeah, I we live here. And he said, Do you want me to put a note in saying um that you want this to be your home gym so we can change it, so then you don't have to pay the ten dollars. And Dylan was like, Yeah, that actually would be great. Thank you. So this note was supposed to be in the here, right? Dylan went to the gym without me on numerous occasions. We had been there like 10-ish different times, nothing was said. He went to go the other day. This the I guess these two old ladies were really grouped in, like fully like yelling at him because this wasn't his home gym. And they said, You need to pay ten dollars. And he said, Oh, it should there should be a note in there that this was said, this was supposed to be changed. And they said, You have to come Monday through Friday between 8 a.m. and and 5 p.m. or something like that, while the manager is here to have him change it. And Dylan said, Yeah, it should have already been changed. There's a note in the file, fully like didn't believe it, accused him of sneaking it. He was like, I have been here multiple times, and they're like, Oh, you must have just snuck past. Where'd you go? I'm just he was like, he was like, You she was like, You must have been just sneaking past, like you must have been sneaking it. And he was like, I literally paid for the membership. What do you mean sneaking it? Like, anyhow, so it was this whole thing, they were really nasty. So we went in the the next day. We went to go to the gym together because he was like, Whatever, we'll see what's up. Like, I'll just use your guest pass. Tell me how we didn't even get up to the desk. She stands up and goes, I told you you couldn't be here. I told you that you had to come during this time, blah blah blah, like running her chunks, didn't even let us speak. Now there was a guy there who was there when we signed up, and this is the same guy that has been letting Dylan through because he knew the situation. Not that not the same guy you told him.

SPEAKER_10:

Sure, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_12:

It's a guy that was there, like witnessing it. So he remembered Dylan, he didn't have an issue with it.

SPEAKER_05:

LA Fitness, get your shit together. I hope you hear this.

SPEAKER_12:

LA fitness. First of all, I'm about to cancel my membership and his membership. Second of all, they should start working. You need to have people work on their customer service because this whole thing could have been avoided if they were just nice about it and they're like, hey, like we understand you like on our side, it's not changed. You know what I mean? Like, still ridiculous, still ridiculous. However, should have been anyhow, should have been handled a different way.

SPEAKER_05:

Fully nuts, dude.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh and it was like late. It was like 7, 8 p.m. Because we go to the gym like that's another thing, LA Fitness. Why is it on the weekends that you close at 6 p.m.? Who does that? That's crazy. Anywho.

SPEAKER_05:

Wait, they're not even a 24-hour gym.

SPEAKER_12:

No, they're not a 24-hour gym.

SPEAKER_05:

What? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_12:

Anywho, so we uh I went to go stay. I said, Wow, that's crazy. I had to deal with stupid people at work. I was at work at 4 30 this morning. I've been up, I have not taken a nap. Let's go. We'll go toe-to-toe right now. And Dylan goes, I'm sorry, ma'am. I have a job. He said, Those days, you said I actually worked during those days. And I very seldom watch him get an attitude. He was so mad, rightfully so. So then she said, Well, you have to pay. He said, I'm using her guest pass. Then she had a problem with that. I said, That's crazy. He's using my guest pass. Well, you need to make sure that it's filled out properly. I said, That's fine. I'm sure this gentleman is going to help us fill it out because that's who we were talking to. Anywho, so then she left. It was the end of her shift. She left, and the guy tells us he was like, Hey, like, you know, she means well, she just takes this very seriously.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_12:

No, I said, absolutely not. He is great though, I will say. He is amazing, he is so nice. He fully took care of the situation, set up a gas pass for Dylan, and then today when we went in, he remembers us now. I scanned, he didn't even ask to see Dylan's name, he just said have a nice work at Austin Laker.

SPEAKER_05:

Do you know? Did you grab this lady's name?

SPEAKER_12:

No, so I completely forgot. I didn't even think about it because she was like leaving. They don't wear name tags.

SPEAKER_05:

So I want this woman. I people I want I want her and the other lady.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, and then the guy was asking. He said, Well, what is the the guy who um what was it? The guy who helped you guys, do you remember what his name was? I said, No, this was a month ago. Oh like two and a half weeks ago. I was like, I couldn't tell you. Like, I can pick him out of the lineup, and he also he comes in to Starbucks every day. I can literally tell you his Starbucks. He comes in every day, and I'm like, I have no idea what his name is. So it turns out I ended up getting his name because he came into Starbucks through the cafe, and I'm pretty sure it's him. This isn't the point. So he was like, Well, can you describe him to me? So, like, we're trying to describe like what he was wearing, what he usually wears when we're there, like he had a goatee. And the guy's like, I need more. And Dylan was like, Do you want me to say that he was black? Like, is that what you're looking for? And he was like, Yeah, like he was a tall black guy, he wears compressions, he has a goatee, and he goes, Well, that doesn't help. We have two tall black guys. I said, Okay, and Dylan was like, He's he's he was like, He's a light skinned black guy. I don't know how else, and it was so funny, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05:

So funny, I I do it too, and I I try, I think it's like out of respect.

SPEAKER_12:

I don't I mean, I guess so. No, I mean like like the skating around, you know, yeah, no, but like we weren't trying, like we gave so much detail that I feel like it was just trying to get it out of us.

SPEAKER_05:

But yeah, I do that too, though, where like I'll skate around like literally, yeah. Trying not to say it because also honestly, if you're listening and uh you're a person of color, um, please comment and tell me, does that make me a bad person? Like, I don't know, genuinely. I don't know.

SPEAKER_12:

I think it depends on the situation. I think if it matters in the situation, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05:

I only do it out of respect. That's my thing. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Because I wouldn't describe like I wouldn't describe a white person and then be like, you know, the white guy. Like, you know, oh, I do. Like, I think it's out of respect that I'm like, well, if I wouldn't do that for a white person, I shouldn't do that for a person of color either.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I see it. I like I said, I think it depends on the situation, like if it's necessary. Like, I I hear stories and they're like, oh, and they were white, or oh, they were black, or they were Hispanic. I'm like, that didn't add anything to sort. I didn't need to know that.

SPEAKER_05:

But I have I have had people um call me out and be like, the black guy, and I'm like, Yeah, yeah, like uh same thing. You like you're like, I gave you so many other details about persons to me. It actually says that the person who says that only sees the color, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

So well, we were allowed to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05:

Either way, people people uh comments, please. I I'm very curious.

SPEAKER_12:

And we were allowed to learn as a person. Um there was the lady who helped me, and she was so nice, so nice, but the only physical description I could give to her is she had like botched lip filler and a fake butt. And I know that sounds so mean.

SPEAKER_04:

This is the this is the bad lady, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_12:

The lady who was so nice who signed me up, and she was so kind, and I was like, and I didn't want to say that because I'm like, that sounds awful, and I don't mean it. That's just my observation, you know? Anywho, so I had um I told him I said I can literally point out where her desk was. Like, I can't walk you over to it. I don't remember their names. Anywho, yeah, so Dylan's gonna go on Tuesday, see what he needs to do to get it figured out. Um, he also I think is just going to get a different gym membership collectively. I think we might both get a different gym.

SPEAKER_05:

Like a planet fitness or something, at least a 24-hour gym. But like find a 24-hour gym.

SPEAKER_12:

So we're gonna go to one where Dylan's sister's boyfriend goes to, I think. And it's more of like a like a family-owned gym. Describe him. Um, he's a white guy. Um, yeah, no, so I think we're gonna go there because the whole reason that I was going we were going to this gym is because it was so close um to my work, like it's literally across the street from where I work. So I was like, oh, I can go after work, but then I'm so tired. I'm like, I don't want to go. I'd rather go with Dylan, anyways. Like it being in a gym alone gives me weird vibes. I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02:

Um I have sound effects now.

SPEAKER_12:

That's exciting.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I like I like sound effects.

SPEAKER_12:

Since our soundboard doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02:

Do you hear them when I play them?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I have to play with it more. I I I can I can add sounds to this one too.

SPEAKER_06:

That's fun.

SPEAKER_05:

And it's and it's built into StreamYard, so I don't have to have like a separate thing. Yeah, it's pretty pretty dope.

SPEAKER_06:

That's super insane.

SPEAKER_05:

So I want to talk about uh some new music stuff going on. So I I obviously I want to talk about the AJR stuff. Like I think that this new album is incredible, it's deep, it's raw. Um, I think that uh this is the most that those three talented men has ever given us of them. Um very, very personal. Um but it's it's just it's really well written. I would say as a diehard AJR fan, it's not for everybody. Um, but if you can appreciate their story, not their story of like them being musicians, but like their personal story and what they've had to overcome the past couple of years, um, this album is truly a work of art. Um even even that being said, that song I just showed you is just it's so catchy.

SPEAKER_11:

It's really good, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, but the other ones are all very deep. Uh besides Betty. Betty's really just a fun song, but um but I also want to talk about this Sabrina Carpenter issue.

SPEAKER_12:

This shoe is crazy. Somehow I heard another podcast say that she was uh something plant. What's it called? Yeah, like a music industry implant. She's not real.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't I don't disagree.

SPEAKER_12:

I they also said that her parents are Scientologists, and I don't know how to treat them.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Yeah, I didn't look at it. I don't I wouldn't go as far as to say that she's a plant for the music industry. I think she is a product of the music industry. Yeah. I think that she didn't start off that way, but has very, very much turned into it. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Yes and no. I I agree when I kind of disagree.

SPEAKER_05:

Let me give my my opinion, my my full opinion musically, and then we'll have this discourse. Um her first album. No, sorry. The first album that I listened to. Short and sweet. Short and sweet. It was very pop-heavy, it's radio pop heavy, right? Yeah, we all agree. That has espresso on it, and it has um Juno on it, and it has uh what was that other big one that everybody was obsessed with? That's on there.

SPEAKER_12:

Espresso and oh hang on, I can't remember the name.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I can't either.

SPEAKER_12:

It's so funny because I think I just have it up.

SPEAKER_05:

It's the one with uh Jenno Ortega in the video.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, and I can't remember taste. Oh, and it has please, please, please.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did I forget that? So even despite that album to me being pinnacle music industry driven pop. Yes, oh absolutely songs, please, please, please. Despite how I feel about it, is a catchy tune. Yeah, espresso is a catchy tune. Taste, I genuinely just like because of the artistic take of the music video.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh you like that her and Jenna Ortega make out.

SPEAKER_05:

No, honestly, that was the worst part for me. Um, I'm not a f I'm not a fan of Jenna Ortega, I'm really not. I I don't I don't find her attractive.

SPEAKER_12:

Um, do you like her as an actor though? Like as an actress? I think she's a fine.

SPEAKER_05:

I I don't think she's a bad actress or actor, however she prefers to be pronounced. Yeah, I don't think she's bad by any means. I think she keeps getting put in bad roles, which is not her fault.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I think she's a great Wednesday Adams.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, she's being forced into that role though. Similarly to the girl from uh Parks and Rec, that yeah after that role, she just played that same character in other things. So, like, I that's not her fault. That's not Jenna Ortega's fault. Yeah, I think that she was okay in that Death of a Unicorn movie. Um that was a really fun movie for me, yeah, but she wasn't what what solidified that movie, to be honest. It was Paul Rudd. I felt like Rudd uh is just a far more elite actor than her.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, he's also like in his 40s, for sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like 75 movies or something. Yeah, like but I do feel that um unfortunately, she just keeps getting cast as the same person, and that's not her fault. Um but I felt like the artistic vision on that uh music video was very fun, it was a very fun throwback to the 80s horror, and yeah, I liked it. You know what I mean? I I enjoyed it. Um please, please, please. The music video sucks.

SPEAKER_12:

Um, I don't know if I've ever watched it. I'm gonna be 100% real with you.

SPEAKER_05:

I did a deep dive because of this new album, and and there's a lot that I have to say about it. Uh espresso, I feel like is your the and that this is where I'm this is where I'm getting to. Espresso is the music industry's golden goose. Hold on, hear me out. Hear me out. The music video is scantily clad, it's clearly sexual and full of innuendos. Um, unfortunately, provocativeness is what pushes our society forward. Uh, the more provocative, the more the younger people gravitate towards it, right? So that's just the society that we live in. You can argue.

SPEAKER_12:

You you say that, but everyone threw a fit.

SPEAKER_05:

No, not everyone. Specific types of people threw a fit, not which is crazy. If everyone threw a fit, this album wouldn't be the number one in the Billboard 100 for the last three weeks or whatever, but I digress. Um, we're getting to that album, but right now, talking about espresso, I think that the music industry and unfortunately, Sabrina Carpenter saw the success that espresso brought.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

And she was already kind of getting heat for her live performances. And I feel like between the heat, the controversy, and trying to kind of shove it in people's faces and be like, I'm gonna do what I want, fuck you, um, pushed her more and more into what the music industry was going after, anyways. You know what I mean? I felt like she didn't want to become this person, but with everything kind of coming at her in the way that it has the last 12 months, yeah, that this now new album called Man Child is exactly what the music industry has wanted. And like, yeah, it's not even it's not even the the provocativeness or the eccentricness of like talking about sex and how she talks about sex. Like, that's a dime a dozen. You can find 50 million people that do that every day. It's the shitty music element part of it. It's not good writing. It's not good writing. It is let me push you all of the things that are gonna draw people to be like, you're either gonna be like, oh my god, I love this, or oh my god, I'm going to burn down a church because Sabrina Carpenter is too sexy.

SPEAKER_12:

Like that I get she also something to understand, and I might get heat for sending this. I think she is very clever. I think that she is very funny. Like when you listen to some like the song, like like Man Child, and I said this from the beginning, I don't think it's a well-written song. I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_05:

I think that the music video is better than the song. I think it's a funny music video.

SPEAKER_12:

That's like I think that what she says is funny, but she's not a songwriter.

SPEAKER_05:

No, do you know what I mean? She is though.

SPEAKER_12:

You think so?

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, because I at first I I so I listened to her first ever album. Don't ask me what the name of it was. I listened to two songs on it.

SPEAKER_12:

Um, it is called Eyes Wide Open question mark.

SPEAKER_05:

I listened to two songs on it, and the writing style and elements, granted, she was much younger, and she was a Disney But the writing style and elements that went into that album.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, eyes wide open.

SPEAKER_05:

She is a songwriter, and she's not like a great songwriter. I'm not gonna say that.

SPEAKER_12:

Well, no, that's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05:

Like she's a solid songwriter, yeah, and it doesn't show in the bullshit she just put out, which brings me to tears. Probably the worst song ever written. That's I throw it right up there with WAP as far as like it's just dirty to be dirty. That song is just meant to be like, hey, all of you Christian people that were in an uproar over my album cover. Guess what? Here you go. And honestly, though, but it's just to get that conversation going. That's all it's for. It's for the discourse, it's for the the camaraderie or not not camaraderie, that's the opposite, the combativeness of these two sides, people who are more conservative and people who are not. We're not gonna use that other word because people get in trouble for saying things. Um, you're just pushing those two people against each other. This song is not meant to do anything else, and there's no one who can come on here and truly argue with me that this song is anything but that. It's just I like it. Sure, you can like it.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, that's my thing. Like, I never said that it was like a a cra I yeah, I mean, I felt that way with short and sweet too. I just like the music. Yeah, you I like it, I bop to it. I think it's a good time.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, like it, anyone can like it. Yeah, anyone can come and say that it's catchy, anyone can have their opinion. This is my opinion. Um, yeah, no, I don't think I don't think on any of the albums.

SPEAKER_12:

I don't no Juno, I like how Juno is written.

SPEAKER_05:

It's it's a solid, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

I'll give Juno's a solid album.

SPEAKER_05:

I would even say espresso is solidly written. Yeah, but it's written, it's a pop song, like it was written for this purpose, and it served that purpose. Yeah, um, like I said, I think that taste, like the art direction, like she is an artistic person, she's a creative, like like she has talent, yeah. But this album in particular is the void of talent, it's just her controversy.

SPEAKER_12:

What really bothers me is she I think is an incredible singer, and and this is why. Her the past two albums have been like her higher voice, but you listened to her first album, and like her lower voice and like her, and I know talking voices and singing voices are two different things, like I'm well aware of this, but like I don't know if you saw clips, I she is an incredible performer too. Like, she sings, and there's a lot of performers performers out there that just lip sync, right? Like, we all know this. She sings her music, and she did a cover of It's Raining Men, and it was incredible, and everyone was like, Oh, we didn't know that she could do this, her lower register, we need more songs like this. Where did this Sabrina come from? And it's all because all of you have pushed her into this box. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05:

Like, she doesn't get to do the lower register, she doesn't get to experience she doesn't get to experiment and give her actual talents, and that's where that's where I'm coming from. On like, I do think that she is a music industry plant in the sense of like yeah, they have built her as a product now, to be, yeah. She is a Hollywood product, yeah. And whether or not she agrees is up to her. Um but the masses are seeing it, it's it's hard to argue.

SPEAKER_11:

Um, no, I agree.

SPEAKER_05:

I'll tell you this, everyone that's listening and Sabrina Carpenter fans that are listening. I hope you understand that I'm coming from a place of just a genuine music enthusiast and examining it for what it is musically.

SPEAKER_12:

And I'm a Sabrina girly, I'm a Sabrina fan.

SPEAKER_05:

But what I will say is the message that I I am in the scene as far as like talking to business owners and uh record store owners and and musicians, and what they're calling this album is just the filler to get through to the next Taylor Swift album. It's the same audience. They're they're both of those art artists are captivating or capturing the same audience, yeah, which is sad. And her Man Child album is just the filler for everyone to get through to the new Taylor Swift album, but that's coming from the record companies. That's what I'm saying. That's from the people that are selling this stuff. They're like, Yeah, I got in 30 copies, we moved four of them. We'll probably end up shipping half of them back because just filler.

SPEAKER_12:

Which is sad because she is so musically talented. Absolutely, she she deserves.

SPEAKER_05:

She needs to take a break. She needs to take a break, yeah, and get rid of whoever it is that's managing her.

SPEAKER_12:

Because she and like I knew her beforehand because I watched Girl Meets World. I knew her music before she popped off. Um, and then she opened for Taylor Swift, and then everyone was like, Who is this? You know what I mean? And then they put her on this whole pedestal. And I agree that she I think there was also pressure to get this album out. Yes, because she's she's at her high point, yeah. So she's like, I need to get another.

SPEAKER_05:

If you're not out, if you're not making content, you're not gonna be relevant.

SPEAKER_12:

I know, which is so sad, and it's like it's the reason I put this show out every week. And like, I like I get it. Not everybody can be Adele, not everybody can be Taylor Swift, you know what I mean, and take those breaks and those times in between. Like, I get that.

SPEAKER_05:

Um you can though, you can. If you're if you're developing the right audience, you can that's the issue, and that's that's where my truly that's where my issue with her lies, and and I know she's never gonna hear this, but if she were to, Sabrina, my issue with you is that you're not worrying about the audience that you're developing, yeah like you can have longevity in this business if you cultivate the right audience. Yeah, Taylor Swift cultivated the right audience, yeah. Adele, uh Beyoncé, the Beatle, and she also she's also like I'm just saying they cultivated the right audience at the right time. Exactly. If she puts in the right work, yeah, that audience will follow.

SPEAKER_12:

And she's in the same room. Well, no, I don't like Triple Room. Never mind. I was gonna say, like, she's like 25, 26. You know what I mean? She's so young.

SPEAKER_05:

That like not in the music industry though.

SPEAKER_12:

That's I know, but but for her to just like pop off like that, like to have her music beforehand and then to have her pop off, like I don't know. Like to me, she's still so young. And that was my thing with Chaperone and Olivia Rodrigo too. Or like you guys are so like you're just trying to develop her sound, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like this is her first time with one so much fame, right? Like, so there's that, and then also like with I'm sure a big record label. I mean, I never looked into all of that, but it's like she went from being a like a Disney music star, right? And then having her her little albums in between, like Taylor Swift came out the gate and then had, do you know what I mean? Like, had the big record label started doing those shows so early to be able to work up to where she is.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, and I think that's the issue that we keep talking about in the music industry, and it's an issue that I'm finding more and more artists um not willing to have that conversation. But there is an issue in the industry right now, and it's accessibility. Yeah, you you can go to bed a nobody and wake up a somebody, yeah. And that accessibility does not build and cultivate the right artist. Like, yeah, I agree. You're not getting an audience that's gonna stand by you for the next 30 years. There are going to be some people, you are going to build like like you're gonna have an audience, you know what I mean? But it will dwindle over time, you're gonna have that spike and it will dwindle over time. Yeah, you don't have that with the Beatles and ACDC and Led Zeppelin and Queen and Pink Floyd, and I can continue going on and on, Aerosmith, I mean, stained. Like there are so many artists that are they just they did the right thing at the right time. Time and a lot of it is luck, but a lot of it's hard work. And I'm not saying that these people aren't working hard. I'm not saying that they're not hardworking artists.

SPEAKER_12:

No, it's just like you But it's night and day. Like yeah, like you like they are over sensation. That's what I was gonna say. It's they had time to work up, develop their sound, like find their audience, find their niche, do all these things, and and people are just waking up. I mean, literally, Olivia Rodrigo had one hit, and then she is now a major pop star. And it's like and and it's happening to people so young.

SPEAKER_05:

But the thing is, is like the diehard Olivia fans will tell you that no, she's been working at this for like 10 years. You know what I mean? Like, like those diehard fans were there at the beginning, and I'm not saying that their their opinions are valid, like they were there, they existed.

SPEAKER_12:

But there's a difference between the drops. Yeah, there's a difference between playing like shows that like open mic nights, and you know what I mean, like things like that. Like, that's to then the next day wake up and be like, Oh, I have all these fans, and now I'm going to make an entire tour and I'm going to sell up stadiums.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, that that's my the other issue, in my opinion, is it's become less about the content, yeah, more about the image. And I hate that. And that that's been the music industry for the last years. Yeah, it has slowly become less about the content and more about what is the image that you are going to portray. Yeah, how can we market what you look like? Yeah, and that sucks. You see very, very few artists that come out with some real deep shit that can withstand the test of time. Lewis Capaldi, I would say, is like an artist who can withstand the test of time with his writing.

SPEAKER_12:

I with that, I was gonna say Alex Warren too. I don't know if you've looked at the world. Warren's a great drama going on right now.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Um, I would say uh that one guy that you like, Khalid.

SPEAKER_12:

Yes, I think it's Khaled. I say I say Khalid because it's it I don't know, to me it's better.

SPEAKER_05:

But I think it's I don't know because I don't listen to it. But I I from what I agree I've listened to, yeah, he is going to withstand the test of time.

SPEAKER_12:

Like yeah, because he I mean he literally has maybe four albums.

SPEAKER_05:

There are just certain people who will withstand it, but I I just think that pop music as a whole is going so far south.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_05:

And I think that this particular Sabrina Carpenter album just feeds into that cesspool of the ether, and it doesn't stand out. And I am not a Sabrina fan, but I did do the work, I did listen, I didn't.

SPEAKER_12:

I also I mean, I am a Sabrina fan, and I agree. It's not something that stands out, like it's not something totally different. I said that was our last album. It's a fun listen. I also love pop music. We all know this. I love music that sounds the same. It it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, so I try to look for that same sound, but it's not something that's like and and for anyone who wants to attack me, please.

SPEAKER_05:

I do welcome it, but um understand that I also listen to super shitty music. I'd be the first one to tell you. Yeah, like it's just it's you like what you like, and that is okay. It is just my my job to commentate on this particular album. Like that's what we do here. Um, so I hope that it's not too much of a dig. And if you're a fan, please be a fan. Don't let my opinion sway you at all.

SPEAKER_12:

No, but I like I mean, I am a fan and I have the same observation. Like, you can be a fan and then be like, well, yeah, like it's it's I want to see her do better.

SPEAKER_05:

I want to see her be successful and do better, and I think that comes from a place of of love for the industry and love of music.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me too, because it she has a dinner. Yeah, she's so talented.

SPEAKER_05:

I will say I have been on the record saying I I think she's got a couple years left.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh probably.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't want that, but it's just how it feels.

SPEAKER_12:

What I would love. I would love to for her to get back into acting.

SPEAKER_05:

I'd like to see that.

SPEAKER_12:

She's a great actress, guys. And everyone keeps like tiptoeing around that. Like they forget that that that's where she came from. She's a fantastic actress. So I wanted her to get back into that too.

SPEAKER_05:

That was uh that was a super solid discussion on it. I I enjoyed the the friendly banter.

SPEAKER_12:

Me too. I mean, we agreed.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't know if we did, but we also had some disagreements, I think. You know?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Sorry, my pro's a little dry.

SPEAKER_12:

You're okay. My eyes are a little heavy.

SPEAKER_05:

I I know you want to eat some food. I'd like to go eat some food. So thanks for hanging out, buddy.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, anytime. Thanks for uh yapping with me. I have um when we do a show next, I want to talk about the Alex Warren drama. So everyone stay tuned.

SPEAKER_05:

Everyone already knows about it, but by the time this comes out and whatever episode you're talking about comes out, it'll it'll be long over.

SPEAKER_12:

Honestly, I I hope so, and I hope it gets figured out because it gets me fired up.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay. I don't know. Like it's not what's going on.

SPEAKER_12:

Do you really not?

SPEAKER_02:

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, what time is it? Can I can it be like a five-minute? Can I just fill you in really quick? Forget it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

So Alex Warren has been on tour for like a while now, right? Um, he was supposed to play this some festival, I think it was in Canada, but I could be wrong about that. And it was like a smaller festival, but he was like the bigger name, right? And months ago, he had told his record or his label, whatever it is, management, he was like, guys, I am not doing well mentally. Like this, this has been a lot. I miss my house, I miss my wife. Like, like I won't, I just need a break. Like, just give me a few days. And they're like, Okay, this is when we can sweeper break it. And it was during the time of that festival. So he reached out to them and he was like, Hey, again, not doing well mentally. And he's been very open about his mental health. And he was like, I like I'm not going to be able to do this. I'm so sorry. And he also, I think, was supposed to be on some talk show too, and that also got canceled, right? And so this was and so it was a whole thing. I don't know, actually, I don't know if it got canceled or not. But he ends up going home.

SPEAKER_03:

The festival didn't tell the people that he had happened all the time.

SPEAKER_12:

So so I agree, I agree, but bands also drop out of festivals all the time. You know what I mean? Like things come up, they can't make it. This is not new. However, the the festival made a public announcement bashing him and saying that he made other arrangements that were more important, and then put out the talk show that he was supposed to be on, and pretty much was like he doesn't care about his audience fully bashing it. Like it was awful. So his management was like, hey man, don't say anything, don't say anything, don't say anything. And he's like, No, I'm gonna say something. He's like, This is wild that you're not saying something. So he went on TikTok and he made a post and he said, Hey guys, just letting you know what they're saying isn't true. This was discussed months ago. I didn't just drop out the night before. Like, went through this whole spiel, and he was like, I just wanted to be home. Like, I just wanted to come home for a couple of nights, and everyone also was like thinking that maybe his wife was pregnant, and that's why he wanted I don't know how true that is, that's just speculation. But it makes me so mad because then like Dylan and I were just talking about the other day, like Avici he himself, and it's like you we lose these these incredible musicians because no one is understanding the total, like you think about having to leave your wife and kid for months, and like it that takes a lot on you. Like, just let the man go home, and also I'll sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, I was gonna say they also like they're they're doing their job. Imagine, imagine if every day you were doing your job, people watched you do your job, wanted to talk to you about your job, wanted to tell you how your job changed their life, and like just constantly talk about your work non-stop forever. Like, granted, they get to do their job, right? It's music, like it's it's yeah, thing, but like we do forget that these people like are people, and it becomes their job when they're gone six months a year on these tours doing the same show for you and 50,000 other people every night, yeah, doing it the exact same way, and then 30,000 of you say, Oh, it wasn't as good as this city, like like and that's my thing, and it's crazy and so unprofessional.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it's awful, and it's it's so wild to me that like that I'm gonna have to find it and send it to you. I I think they took it down because they got a lot of backlash. Um, but then but then so many people are like, Well, you still had an obligation to your fans, and I'm like, you know, if you're a real fan, I I can't because also granted the people who bought the tickets for the festival, they didn't get a refund, they bought it for a festival. So that's like odd. You should have known you should have known that like anyone can drop out of a festival at any time, it doesn't matter how big, small, the name, like it just is what it is. But like the show, because he canceled his own shows too, they all got their money back, right? And like that, I'm sure have first come, first serve when it gets rebooked. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, and it's things like that. Like, he did everything right, and to have this festival bash him like that, and then to have other people be like, Well, yeah, you need to just get over it. That's wild, and it makes my heart so sad because he is so talented. That's like he and he genuinely cares about his fans. Like he, I don't know. Like anywho, it gets my blood going. It really does, because it makes me so mad.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, if if you've hung out this long, um, stay tuned for an extra 20-ish minutes and and hear how Taylor quit the show. Literally. Uh all right, let's do the promos and and get out of here, buddy.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, thank thanks for letting me hang out, buddy. If you like today's episode and you're so you're surprised I'm still here, guys. If you like today's episode, go ahead and give it a big thumbs up, subscribe, and don't forget to hit that bell notification so you can be notified every time we post a new tweet.

SPEAKER_05:

We're up to like 4 30 on the Instagram, we're up to like 150 on the on the old YouTube. So definitely please keep checking those out and helping us out. It's been very, very much appreciated. Yeah. Uh, we are doing a live show at Frank's Monster Munchies in Cantina once a month. Um, so check out the Instagram. All of those dates will always be up there. And come hang out with us live.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So all right, everybody. It has been real and peace. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the show. I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-host, the other Chris. This is the Hook and Bridge Podcast. Uh let me know if you can hear this, Chris. I don't I don't know if this will work or not. Yeah?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I can hear that.

SPEAKER_05:

We got sound effects. Uh, so that's gonna happen a lot more. Um so I have some news for you. It's it's been a long time coming, and uh the audience is gonna be sad, but they will they will get over it. Um Taylor has officially quit the show. What? It it is official. Taylor, she her her schedule does not line up at the moment. I let her know that the the spot is always open, she's always welcome to come hang out. Um, but she's doing her thing in Florida, and it doesn't involve us, unfortunately. So unfortunately, Taylor Taylor is done.

SPEAKER_00:

Stop smiling. I'm trying not to smile. You doing.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, yeah, she, you know, it's been it's been heading that way. Um, but she has decided to step away. Um, she'll still pop on on occasion whenever she has the time, and she'll still do some side stuff here and there with us. Um me and Taylor are cool. There's been no no bad blood or anything. Um but Chris, you ready to pick up the mantle as the official co-host of the show?

SPEAKER_00:

I have to get a pretty sweet wig. I'll be the other Taylor. Oh, that that does suck. I was just talking to uh Kenny and Chelleck the other day, and Kenny was like, you know, it's nice to have everybody everybody's different. All three of us. It's so that was that was nice.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Um, but like we've said before, we are expanding. So uh there's a guy named Ron that Chris met recently that will be joining the show more. Um as long as his schedule lines up, he's gonna be in the background kind of doing those sound effects and and handling like the the logistics sides of things, um handling like uh like the media type stuff, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03:

Because he's just he's super good at that stuff, and I am not, he's cool. Um but yeah, our our cook and bridge podcast team is expanding. And uh, you know, down the road, who knows? Um but yeah, it is official, man. It's it's you and me, it's you and me, brother.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, so yeah, that's the big news. That's sad, sad day.

SPEAKER_00:

Sad day. Yeah, I couldn't have I couldn't have faked that surprise. So thank you for not telling me before you know before recording. I was like, come on, what is it? What is it? That's not what I was hoping for.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's sad, it's unfortunate, but I I get it. She's you know, she's 24, she's you know, figuring things out down there, and it's not that she doesn't want to do it, it's just that her life in Florida has become more important than doing the show, and that's all right, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00:

It's Taylor, if you're listening, which I know you don't listen to the show. I listen to the show. How could you abandon me? I thought we were gonna start our own thing and kick Harley off.

SPEAKER_05:

I wonder if she'll start listening now. I doubt it, I highly doubt it. Um, but yeah, the audience is gonna be sad. It's a sad day, but it'll be all right. We're gonna have so much fun, we're gonna do a ton of fun stuff on here. Um, you and I we hit it off, man. We're we're golden. Um, so yeah, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be some tough shoes to fill, man. But you're you're doing a great job.

SPEAKER_00:

Just don't ask me to do the uh this list this list that's all you're getting. That's it.

SPEAKER_05:

I I told her I told her on the phone today because so she's not gonna hear it, so I don't care. Um, so full disclosure, I called her. So I texted her yesterday. I was like, hey, just confirming 7 p.m. same time we've done it, three years in a row, same day. She was like, Yeah, yeah, we're good, we're good. Then today she's like, Hey, can we do 8 p.m.? Because I'm gonna go to dinner with Dylan. And I was like, working, so I didn't answer. And then later in the day, I get, hey, actually, I think we're going out as a family, so we may have to reschedule. I didn't answer. So then I call her on my way home, and she's sitting in the pool drinking with Dylan's mom and this party town. She's like, Yeah, I'm gonna try to be back by eight. I was like, buddy, it's just not gonna happen. There's no way you're not gonna go out and get home by eight. It's just not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, it's uh I don't blame her. I mean, I'd love to be drinking in a pool.

SPEAKER_05:

I agree. Like, uh, I did tell her, I was like, you know what's funny? I said, if you want to feel bad, I said, I asked both you and Chris the same question, can we do a show today? And your response was yes, followed by no, followed by maybe, followed by no. And then uh that was Taylor's response. Then Chris's response was yes, what are conversation topics, and let me research those topics today. Don't make her hate me. I was like, he's just a better co-host. I was like, because she was she always jokes around. She's always like, Do you think Chris is a better sister than me? And I was like, No, but he's definitely a better co-host. Oh man. No, she's cool, she's cool. She she totally she was like, Yeah, she I think her whole thing is she just doesn't want to upset me by saying, Yeah, I'm just not really into it anymore. Um, and that's fine, you know what I mean? Like it she doesn't want to upset me, but I was like, it's not gonna hurt my feelings if you're not into it, you're not into it. You know what I mean? Show will always go on. Um speaking of that was a crazy article you sent me a little bit ago. Speaking of bad, sad news. Yeah, walk us through what happened.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh I mean, I didn't I I read enough to be like, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_05:

So uh that's why I was panning it to you because I also read enough to be like, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So uh I was once again, like all my news, I get it on iFunny, and I was like, This can't be real. Someone's just making this up. So the song uh songwriter Brett James, among three, killed in small plane crash in North Carolina. Um he wrote Jesus Take the Wheel.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, and I was like the co-writer with Carrie Underwood on that song.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, possibly. I just know that song makes me good cry, so Jesus Takes the Wheel.

SPEAKER_05:

Is your good cry song?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I never listened to it on purpose and always hit you like sometimes.

SPEAKER_05:

Sometimes I forget that you are like a good old-fashioned red-blooded Christian American.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, some of those things are true.

SPEAKER_05:

They do have red blood, and uh I've never been hit by a religious song. Like, I don't know why. They've just never really hit me. I mean, Amazing Grace gets me, but that's like I don't know, it's amazing grace. You know what I mean? Is the do have you ever heard the song The Christmas Shoes?

SPEAKER_00:

I've told you this a million times. I do not know songs by names. Like if you play it, I'd be like, Oh hell yeah, I love that song.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, if only I was allowed. Um, I can't even sing it. Um, because I don't know it that well.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna say, I'm sure you don't sing it well enough to strike.

SPEAKER_05:

So no, I just don't know the words, but that I just I don't know if that song is considered a Christian song or not. What's it called that one? It's called The Christmas Shoes. Um, but that one, dude, you want to talk about a song that'll pull at your heartstrings. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00:

Related to the movie?

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, yeah. I believe it was written. No, I believe the song came first.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna love the movie. It's got Rob Lowe in it.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, dude. The dog, dude, that movie's sad as fuck. That was a bad that's a bad one. That's that's uh that's a sad ass movie. Um yeah, uh I don't know if it's a if it's a well, it's a Christmas song, and the the holiday of Christmas is related to Christ in turn would make it a Christian song, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I think Frosty the Snowman. I mean, reference Christmas in that. Honestly, I don't know Frosty the Snowman well enough.

SPEAKER_05:

Rudolph the red nosed reindeer is is a hymn.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know, man. You're the music expert.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm just thinking, like, in in Christmas, we celebrate Christmas um for the celebration of Christ, which is Christianity. Um, so therefore, Santa Claus is coming to town is a religious hymn.

SPEAKER_00:

I I get I mean you you can look at it however you want this day and age.

SPEAKER_05:

Two degrees of uh separation or whatever they say. Um dude, I forget what was I? I was just talking to somebody about uh about something relating to something like that. What the hell was it? I can't remember. Um oh well, it must not be that important. Uh you'll text me about it later. You'll be like, this is absolutely will. Um no, I was definitely I was definitely talking to somebody about uh something being something because oh oh Christmas movies. Um, I was talking to Taylor about it. Um, we were talking about uh Gremlins. Gremlins is a Christmas movie. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_00:

No. Why? Just because it just because it happens around Christmas. I mean, so the argument is like movies that have Christmas in it. One argument is it automatically makes it a Christmas movie, right? Diehard. Diehard. I mean, I agree with the diehard though, but hear me out, hear me out, right?

SPEAKER_05:

I heard the argument that the Harry Potter universe has Christmas, the wizards celebrate Christmas, but only in the first, third, and fourth movies. So I do consider the first, third, and fourth Harry Potter movies Christmas movies. Yeah. But I'm gonna turn you around on Gremlins. You ready?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_05:

So let's take the idea of the world saying that Christmas movies have to involve Christmas in some capacity in the movie, they happen around Christmas time, like Die Hard, right? Gremlins takes it a step further because the Mogwai is a Christmas present, they celebrate Christmas in the movie. The entire plot of the movie revolves around Christmas, technically.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_05:

So then I consider it a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I'm always down with new and exciting Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh, I think that I should be able to sit down and watch Gremlins and the Frosty the Snowman claymation movie in the same afternoon. Why not? You're an adult.

SPEAKER_00:

This is America.

SPEAKER_05:

This is America. Um, but yeah, that was our that was our conversation the other day, was talking about Christmas movies, and then we got into like the weeds of like, okay, well, this movie has Christmas. Okay, well, this movie has Christmas. So yeah, I think Gremlins is a Christmas movie and Jurassic Park is a horror film. Oh man. Um, so speaking of horror films, we had uh we had a live show recently, you and I. Yes, over at Frank's Monster Munchies in Cantina.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Shout out Frank. It's a mouthful. Frank's is awesome. If you guys are ever in the area, stop and check it out. So uh me and my wife got there a little before Harley did. So we got to sample some of the food. Oh my god, it was so good. It was so good. Oh, amazing. I can't wait to go.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, we will be back um on October uh 8th. The 8th of October, we will be back over there doing another live show. So definitely come out and hang out with us. But no, it was great. I had a blast. Um, full disclosure, because I I love my audience and I'm not gonna lie to them. No one showed up. I wasn't going to say it. I I I argued with myself on whether or not I was gonna say it, but they deserve to know. Zero people showed up to the first live show over there. I don't know if it was the the time, I don't know if it was lack of advertising. Uh it it it was a Wednesday, it's in the middle of the week. Like there are a lot of variables for sure. Um, I think this next one's gonna be a lot better. Uh, but even with nobody but us and the staff, we still had a blast.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I yeah, that was that was fun. That was fun. The uh the family that owns was yeah, they sat down, talked to us. Yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you did a great job. Um you stop. Uh yeah, you you did a great job. Your wife did a fantastic job filming.

SPEAKER_00:

Almost. She kept turning the phone, and I was like, oh goodness. Babe, you got to put it on screen lock or something. I mean, I don't know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_05:

The so far, the one video that I did put up on our Instagram page was perfect. The in she caught the intro perfectly, and then you turn and look at the camera and she zooms in on you and you make a funny face. It's the perfect clip uh to promote what we do. It was awesome. No, she didn't she did a great job, fantastic job. Um, but no, it's it's gonna be a great time the next time, too. Um, what uh what would you say was like your favorite part of the live show?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man. Honestly, with five kids and my mother-in-law in the house, it was just nice to get out of the house and not go to work. Um I don't know, it was it was honestly hearing their opinions. Like talking to them was great. Like, yeah, like that it I want to say it was them, they made it great.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I love um I love the audience banter, I love involving and and asking questions. Um I think right right in the beginning would be my favorite part when we were just asking the bar staff about podcasts and stuff. Like I I love getting like the crowd work of it in, you know what I mean? Yeah. Um I like uh I like that kind of comedy as well. So getting any chance to present some crowd work, I'm in.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, everybody everybody missed it. Harley, uh Harley confessed his love for the island boys. Who did I confuse them with? I still don't know. The Suicide Boys?

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, I gotta look up. Who the hell that is. Me too.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna do it right now. I'll leave it on one of my uh I'll leave it on one of my browsers, one of my 136.

SPEAKER_05:

Dude, I was so convinced that's who they were talking about. You knew it immediately.

SPEAKER_00:

That was great. As soon as they said boys, my first thought was Suicide Boys. And I'm like, oh. Or no, the island boys. The island boys.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that was the I could see them in my head and their like fucked up hair and teeth. And I was like, really? That's who you're gonna go pay money to see?

SPEAKER_00:

They they they kind of remind me of uh of like a whitewashed was it the Applejacks? Yes, the the cinnamon, the cinnamon stick guy, like that's what they're reminding me.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like oh oh they're they're uh they're an interesting. I want to know what they're doing right now. Are they still like around? They've gotta be, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah. Look at Rebecca Black.

SPEAKER_05:

Don't you say a another bad word. I'm just what in the okay, all right. Here's a picture of them kissing.

SPEAKER_00:

Please be AI.

SPEAKER_05:

I you remember when we were there and that one girl was talking about um his baby.

SPEAKER_00:

I just saw a picture of the baby.

SPEAKER_05:

I thought she was I thought she was kidding. I don't know the situation. I'm not going to go deep into it, but I thought she was kidding on what she said at the show.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's but I'm looking at the picture. She was fucking spot on, dude.

SPEAKER_05:

What that's that's something. That's something. Interesting. Okay, I'm not diving into this whirlwind.

SPEAKER_00:

Don't act like you didn't just take the poster down that's been behind you every show.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you like the renovations? I look like I'm in a prison cell, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, you're definitely in some kind of insane asylum padded room. Yeah, yeah. What's odd? That's the casting couch. Yes, probably. That's probably what this room was for. Hey guys, how do you think I got the job?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh I will say that this shot of the studio right now is the cleanest shot of the studio. The rest of it is real bad behind me.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna say, you you I can still see a bottle of or an open bottle of barbecue sauce on the couch. What's up with that, Harley?

SPEAKER_05:

I I put barbecue sauce on my titties. That's my thing. I don't believe you. Prove it.

SPEAKER_09:

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