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Chained Saint: Bringing 80s Metal Back!

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A metal icon noticed them first, but the story gets louder from there. We’re sitting with Chained Saint—teens with vintage swagger and modern force—unpacking how a Halford nod, a garage education, and a ruthless love of riffs turned into songs that hit like a live amp.

We get into the DNA of their sound: Sepultura’s gravity, Pantera’s bite, and that Rush sheen hiding in the chorusy leads. Ethan breaks down a no-frills rig built around a JCM 800, Tube Screamer punch, and an EVH Phase 90 for lift, while Sebastian explains the SansAmp-to-Darkglass path that makes “Animosity” cut through in E♭. Cameron talks snare tuning and Grohl-level energy, proving you don’t need a warehouse of gear to land a stadium-ready crack. It’s a masterclass in tone discipline: choose the right tools, then play like you mean it.

Beyond the gear, we talk songwriting and structure—why they refuse to pick between hooks and bridges, and how “1000 Tons” captured the band’s pivot under real pressure. There’s tour grit too: that DC haul up a second-floor stage, the shock on new faces when four young players launch old-soul heaviness, and the joy of making music parents and kids can share without irony. Dream collabs with Drain and Power Trip make perfect sense once you hear how they define the next era in one word: power.

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SPEAKER_08:

I thought we were five.

SPEAKER_00:

I think what's up, guys.

SPEAKER_08:

Welcome back to the show. I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-host, Chris, and a super, super special group of guys here. You guys have an incredible career already starting out. Please welcome Chained Saint to the show, everybody.

SPEAKER_03:

What's up?

SPEAKER_08:

What's up? So let's let's go around the room and grab names real quick, just so I I have familiarity with everybody.

SPEAKER_05:

My name is Sean Sterling. I'm the lead singer of Chancing.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm Ethan Khan. I play lead guitar. My name's Sebastian. I play bass.

SPEAKER_04:

My name is uh Cameron, I play drums.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah, hell yeah. Um so we're gonna jump into a handful of your tracks, but uh, I want to talk to you guys about the incredible achievements you guys have already had in such a short period of time. How did it feel to have what I could obviously say has got to be an idol for you guys? Uh personally put out a statement regarding your band, Rob Halford.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh man, yeah. I mean, that was just awesome. That was like, I remember the day I heard about that, at least for me, I was my dad's like, come downstairs right now, and he's like, check this out. And he's like, Look who fucking likes Chainsain. And I'm just like, oh my god, Rob Halford, like it was just awesome because that's someone who inspires honestly all of us, you know, and so especially the music that we listen to to make this music. So knowing that he enjoys it was just so fulfilling, you know, just super cool, dude.

SPEAKER_08:

It's it's awesome. As soon as I saw that, I was like, that's so fucking cool, man. Like to even even have Rob Halford acknowledge your presence has got to be incredible, you know what I mean? Um so speaking of the music you guys produce, uh let's go around the table and and list off some of your guys' influences. Um where do we want to start? That's up to you guys. Who who wants to go first?

SPEAKER_04:

We'll reverse it, reverse it.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, we'll start with me. Um for me, like drumming. Uh for me, Suppultura, Igor Cavallera, that's like the number one right there. Um number two is kind of basic, but it's always been like an artist I've always like just admired is uh Dave Grohl.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, obviously.

SPEAKER_04:

Great drumming. Um, and then I'll throw one more in, and um I'll probably say like a newer one is Tim Fliegel from Drain.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

My favorite drummers right now, and they just dropped the record today. Go check it out too.

SPEAKER_08:

That yeah, that yeah, that's awesome, man. Um, so you you do like some of the more like uh like foreign music.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh, I guess, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Compared to, I mean, foreign in the sense of like non-American. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah, man. What about you?

SPEAKER_02:

My turn. All right. Um, so I'm really bad with like names of people, so like the only person's name I know is Peter Steele from Typo Negative.

SPEAKER_06:

Fuck yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02:

But I'm into like death metal and like hardcore, but I don't know any of the uh band members' names, or at least nothing wrong with that. Sorry about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Sebastian, I'm the same way. I'm like that one guy, you know he did the boob boo boop boop. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, so Sebastian, I'm gonna be honest with you. Um, and I I was just looking it up because I couldn't remember his last name. Um, but you look like uh a combination of Robert Trujillo from Metallica and Kirk Hammett. It's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_08:

That's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_03:

I guess I see the vision. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

That's fine. All right.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, I guess I'll follow up. Um, I have I I would go with I'll go with three. Um, two of them very similar to Cam, um, but guitar-wise. Uh Cody Chavez of Drain. Love him, him, super cool guy, great riffs, great time. Then I'd move to um Max Caballera. I mean, come on, you just gotta put him in there. Seppelture was a huge influence on us writing the record, so you know, all of his parts for me were just a big inspiration. And then I guess a curveball, I'll you know, Alex Liveson, he's my number one guitarist of all time. Although it doesn't show on the record as much that solid music, that is for me one of the biggest influences as a musician. So those are my three.

SPEAKER_08:

That's awesome, man. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_05:

So I'll give you two as a vocalist, one as a musician. Uh, as a vocalist, especially for the record, I have to say Phil Anselmo is a big inspiration, especially just like the way I thought approached Grammy on the record, you know, that yeah, he was just a big influence. Melodically, singing-wise on the record, I have to go with James Hetfield. You know, it might sound like a basic one, but like it really did help me get the job done for Blind Side. And then as a musician, I have to follow Ethan on the rush train. Neil Pierre is my go. I'm so sorry. I love Neil Pearr with my heart and soul. That is my man. That is pause. That is everything. He's a lyric writer and an amazing drummer at the same time.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah, dude. You guys, it's crazy. Like, I feel like I'm in a time capsule. This is so weird, dude. This is so weird. You guys look like straight out of the 80s, like each one of you have a different version of the 80s.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that straight out of the 80s.

SPEAKER_08:

Sorry, I got this new camera, I'm still learning. Um, but like, dude, you guys have like such a cool image, and just out of curiosity, how old are you guys? Because you look like 18.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm 18.

SPEAKER_08:

That's fucking insane.

SPEAKER_04:

I I'm the oldest of the band and I'm 21. I just turned 21 a couple weeks ago. I just turned 20.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I was about to say, ironically, we're 18, 19, 21. Sorry, 2021.

SPEAKER_07:

Dude, that's nuts.

SPEAKER_01:

How is it gonna feel getting carted for the next 30 years? You know what I mean? So it's a thing. Yeah. I'm showing, I'm showing my family. I've got my my oldest daughter, she's 16, showed my wife, and uh, and they're like, they're babies. My daughter, if I remember correctly, um, I think she said, it looks like they're straight out of like first block, like homeroom. Yeah, like yeah, doesn't sound like it though.

SPEAKER_08:

So so being that age group and and seeing the wild success that you guys have had in such a short period of time, how has that impacted like your music career? Like, did you guys start off thinking that this was ever gonna be the case?

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I think I could kind of speak on this for all of us because we were talking about it um yesterday at practice, and you know, we're writing new music right now, and we're in the studio right now, kind of in pre-production, and we were just you know, we're like, we gotta write these songs. And we remember when we were in the garage in my house, just like writing songs because we just wanted to hear what we wanted to you know we liked, you know. Yeah, songs that we just liked to hear because we like that music, and of course, we're super grateful and super, you know, happy to have gotten where we are so far. But originally, you know, we're just just doing it because we love it, and we still are, but it was kind of just born that way, you know, just out of the garage and going after school and just hanging out and making new songs together, dude.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, so sorry, give me just a moment here. Um I just want to make sure I'm thinking of the same band. Yes, so you brought up Phil Onsama from Pantera.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_08:

What a great reference to lead into what I would argue is one of my favorite songs of all time. Um, 1000 tons.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08:

Of all time. I mean, I kid you not, like I I have been uh telling everybody about about your music, and like bringing that type of sound back is number one, revolutionary. Nobody's doing that shit. Um, number two, you're you're giving people like my wife's dad or um like you know my dad or you know them to be able to find a new band to gravitate towards is so unheard of that like you've opened up a new connection for people your age, right, to have with their parents. And I don't I don't know if you understand the gravity of what you're doing yet, but like, dude, that's so incredible to be able to connect with your parents on music that's coming out today is huge. Phil Onsamo is a complete inspiration in that song. You guys embodied Pantera in that song.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah, yeah, pretty fucking cool.

SPEAKER_08:

So you're right, right. So do you think that um do you think that given your inspiration from Phil Onsamo and just Pantera in general, do you think that your sonical elements are gonna be geared more towards that, like I don't know, I don't know how else to put it, like rage rock?

SPEAKER_02:

I guess in a second, yeah, I and I think I know what you mean. Like aggressive, like yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, the only thing I could say about that is like when we were talking about what we want how we want our next our music to our music going forward to sound, the one thing we said is power.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

We want raw power, yeah. So that's what I'll say in regards to that.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah. How do you guys feel about animosity?

SPEAKER_03:

Um I mean, we love the song, of course. Um to play, it's the only fun fact, only song that's an E flat on the whole record. Everything's also in E standard, so but no, I mean, I guess I can say for all of us. We love that song. Yeah, it's a nice song to play at the end of the show, you know. It's just a great time.

SPEAKER_08:

Does the crowd get pumped when you guys play that one?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yes, yeah. Most yeah, mostly for that song, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Would you would you say that you were guys were influenced by um Metallica for that one?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh I feel like it's just it just, yeah. I mean, of course, but like it ranges because there's just so many things that we're into at the same time. We like to joke where we say we're all in the same wavelength because we're always into the same music at the same time, and we'll like show each other something at the same time. So kind of just the mix of all everything we're just getting into, I guess, just rough topics included, of course, showed in animosity.

SPEAKER_08:

I also love that you brought up your love for rush because I feel like that shines through on your solos, dude. You you can tell, like um, tonality-wise, you have sort of a rush feel to the tone, like it's very uh chorus heavy, it's very um um like low end, you know what I mean? Instead of heavily, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, dude. As a guitar player, yeah, 100% you can you can hear it. Like absolutely. Um, let's talk about uh speaking of tonality, let's talk about some of the uh the effects on your board. What are you running?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I mean, for me, I'm it's pretty simple but classic because I'm running out of a JCM 800. I'm just I'm just pro tuner, EVH phase 90, and I got a tube screamer. That's it.

SPEAKER_08:

Really? Yeah, just the tube screamer, really.

SPEAKER_03:

And I really just use the tube screamer for a bit of extra punch, you know, kind of just for the chuggy parts, because the 800 is fantastic, but I feel like it needs a little bit of extra oomph to it. So I kind of just have that rolling the whole time, and then for leads, I throw on that phaser, and that's definitely Alex Life's influence, you know. Yeah, so but that's that's my rig right there. It's just those three pedals and the 800 out of a 1968 cab, and that's what I run out of.

SPEAKER_08:

Have you compared the EVH phase 90 to just the regular MXR Phase 90? Are they the same pedal?

SPEAKER_03:

I am yet to try it. I've just I was just kind of introduced to the phase 90 first, and I really like you know, it's just the way it sounds, and it it really I'm a big fan going back to how you said Alex Leipzig and Rush and the tone. I've been chasing the hemisphere's tone for eight, and that one kind of gave me that chorusy, you know, effect that I like, and it works for me, but I'm definitely open to trying new pedals.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, I I think I might I have the MXR Phase 90. I'm sure you can see that orange one there. Uh um, but but uh I'm thinking about grabbing the the EVH phase 90 to just see the comparison between the two and see if there's really a difference. Um so I'll hit you up, I'll let you know what I what I find out on it. But um that's crazy that you're just using a tube screamer. So on my on my channel there, I have the tube screamer, but I also have uh DS1, a boss DS1 distortion. Um, and I use the the Marshall half stack, and um I don't use the punchiness of the stack, I just use that distortion pedal instead. But I I can understand the power of the of the 800, that makes sense. Um what about uh what about you, Sebastian? What are you running on your base rig?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so for the record, I think we had uh just a sans amp uh through an ampeg, if I'm if I'm correct, uh but live I use uh Alpha Omega from Dark Glass.

SPEAKER_07:

I use that oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And through an ampeg head or 8x10 ampeg SVT, and that's about it, nothing else.

SPEAKER_08:

How do you go about getting um that more uh bright bass sound like you do in animosity?

SPEAKER_02:

Um yeah, for that one, I think it was mainly the Sans Amp. We were also using a Pass.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it was uh the Troy's yeah, it was Troy Sandy. Sorry Sanders from Mastodon, it was his bass.

SPEAKER_06:

No shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, because in the studio they had it like there. So I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so that's definitely that definitely contributed to the sound.

SPEAKER_08:

Um I'm sorry, I'm gonna be honest. I blanked on your name, sir, the drummer.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, yeah, yeah, Cameron.

SPEAKER_08:

So I'm so sorry, man. How did how did you go about on animosity? Uh, I as soon as the drum kicks in, I compared it to like Saint Anger um or like uh uh King Nothing was another one that it reminded me of. How did you go about getting that drum sound? It's very like dampened um um snare, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04:

Um I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I don't know what I did, but I basically just I tightened the bottom head and I tightened the top head, and we were just like jamming through some songs. We're like, all right, yeah, that sounds good. And I think I just like left it alone the whole time. I didn't like touch it.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

If it's not broken, don't fix it.

SPEAKER_08:

I mean that snare is iconic, man. Like as soon as it pumps in, like it sounds exactly like uh Lars, like immediately. Um yeah, yeah, fucking fantastic job. Uh so being influenced by Dave Grohl, are you more influenced on his Foo Fighter stuff, or are you more influenced on Nirvana?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I'd probably say Nirvana was like too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

How do you feel about his time with uh Kings of the or Queens of the Stone Age?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah. Well, me and Ethan well love that album. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I wish he stayed with them longer, but I I like their I like their drummer they have now. I don't know his name, but he's pretty good.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, he's definitely he's definitely good. Um no, that album's iconic, man. And then I think I think he went, did he go back and do another album with them?

SPEAKER_04:

Um I think you're right. I think you are right, though.

SPEAKER_08:

I think like one of the more recent ones, he came back and did like at least like a couple of songs or something with them. Yeah, that's pretty good. But yeah, dude, that first album's so iconic. Um what would you say you've picked up from your influences as far as like Dave Grohl?

SPEAKER_04:

Um like what have I picked up?

SPEAKER_08:

Like yeah, like like your style, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04:

Like um, I guess like the energy. I mean, I guess like uh accents and stuff, but I guess like more the energy.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, you know, yeah, I can I can definitely see that, man. Uh do you have like a specific like drum style that you lean towards?

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, I don't know. I'm pretty honest.

SPEAKER_08:

Like I said, you guys are still so young, man.

SPEAKER_04:

It's I guess like metal, yeah. I would say like metal. Like I I play like metal mainly, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

When did you guys all start uh like like learning music?

SPEAKER_04:

Um okay, I was younger this way. Okay, yeah. So I started when I was like pretty young. I was like eight, eight, or nine. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I started in like 2019. I don't know how old I was, but it was like right before quarantine.

SPEAKER_07:

It's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_03:

I started once quarantine started because I got so bored that I was playing my Zoom classes and it kind of grew from there. But yeah, like 2020, so I was in eighth grade. So I was like 14, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Not gonna lie, I'm the pots and pans kid. Are you? Yeah, I was I would bang on pots and pans, and then I started singing when I started singing choirs when I was in like kindergarten, and then I kind of then I started learning like actual like instruments and getting into this style and like quarantine.

SPEAKER_03:

Me and him used to jam dream theater and rush songs in his garage. That's how we became friends, yeah. And yeah, so you know that's kind of when we started together.

SPEAKER_08:

So so speaking of the rush influence, man, yes, number one, your vocals on um like thousand to uh thousand tons and and animosity, I feel like are not in line with your influences. Oh no, not at all. Yeah. Like, do you do you sing like rush style shit like in your spare time?

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, really, I drum I drum rush in my spare time.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

In terms of singing, I kind of just hear the song and vibe. It's like I feel like if I were to start trying to sing like Getty Lee over a thousand times, it's just not gonna work out. Right, sure. It would be some legendary stuff, but like no. Getty Lee was not meant to be doing, was not made to do stuff like a thousand tons. It's just kind of like I hear the song, and it's like this is what the song requires out of me, so this is what I'll give the song.

SPEAKER_08:

Does that mean that you enjoy singing in other tonalities rather than metal?

SPEAKER_05:

I like everything, I just like music in general.

SPEAKER_08:

For sure.

SPEAKER_05:

I just if you throw something on, I'm just gonna vibe with it, you know. I also too. So it's like it my how do I word this? My area of liking music is wide. That's a horrible way to word it, but I'm just gonna go with that. That was my time to leave some inspirational and I said something.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, no, no, no, no. I think Harley and I know exactly what you mean. Um we've talked and we're both kind of the same.

SPEAKER_08:

It's I think the word you're looking for is eclectic.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, eclectic. Thank you. I'd say it's more like a passion than a hobby type of thing for us.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03:

We love all of it, not just like the one thing. We just it's just everything inspires us, you know.

SPEAKER_08:

I mean so let's talk about where you think your lives would be right now if it weren't for the music. Because I mean, this is this has got to be uh again, it's a dream come true, man. You guys get right out of high school, you're in a studio right now. You guys are literally living so many people's dreams in the prime of your life. Where do you think you would be without the music? What would the trajectory have been?

SPEAKER_05:

I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if all of us were attempting to music. Like really if we weren't in this situation in this specific scenario, I feel like we'd be trying to get here. We'd be trying to in some way, shape, or form be doing music.

SPEAKER_08:

You didn't you didn't have like uh I'm gonna be a banker dream or anything.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh I have hoop dreams when I was like third grade. Once I didn't make the high school team, I would I didn't know what the hoop dreams was looking like.

SPEAKER_08:

You got that Philon Salmo anger, man.

SPEAKER_05:

On a real note, I think it's like like Ethan said, this is a passion, not a hobby.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

At some point, I feel like music was just a dream.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, I'd probably be working in the same studio or in if I wasn't doing, you know what I mean? Like I'd be doing something, I'd be a roadie, I'd be working maybe at Guitar Center or anything, really. It's just right music related, you know. Right. I'm a music major in college, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

You know, hell yeah. Where where are you guys going to college?

SPEAKER_05:

If I I don't want to dox you at all, but no, you say storm room number and like I go to the University of Miami Frost School of Music, go Caines. Hell yeah, man. Game tomorrow, we're gonna beat Syracuse.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm not even done with my first semester, but I go to FIU. So just starting.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So I'm there in Miami.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean shit. I'm like in community college right now, but I'm gonna transfer to FAU.

SPEAKER_04:

Come on, FAU. Um I'm not enrolled right now, so I'm a free man. Yeah!

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_08:

Hey, I quit going to college uh right around your age, actually. I I did uh I went until I was 20. Yeah, yeah, I was about your age. Um so man, I didn't finish. And you know, it's worked out for me.

SPEAKER_01:

I can't even spell college, so we're good.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh man. Um, so have you guys been on tour or anything yet?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we had we had a summer tour um last summer, and we still technically have one more date next week, ending it off in Orlando at Orb Tour. But we toured and then you know, trying to get back out there next summer. Unfortunately, with us being in school, you know, it's limited to a summer thing. For sure, but still, like um, I'd say definitely another tour soon, and yeah, we we kind of had just like that you know early bands tour, you know, around kind of the you know, east and kind of northeast, and come and came back down, but it was great experience, you know, and great to meet people and just other bands and play live.

SPEAKER_08:

What was the most like humbling experience of the tour in DC?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, we had we were in this amazing venue, best show of the tour. However, the stage was on the second floor and there was no elevator.

SPEAKER_07:

No shit.

SPEAKER_05:

We was hauling gear up and down stairs trying to play our show, yeah. And we were like, Man, we were like, watch there be no people at this show, like watch the empty room, but no, they gave us a good vibe, so it was all it was all cool, and it was a fun show, but man, I see those stairs in my sleep, gang. Yeah, that's my nightmare.

SPEAKER_08:

So when when new fans are out there and they watch you, what is their reaction? Because, like, again, you guys don't look like you're about to play some of the most awesome classic rock songs of all time. Like, you don't you don't look the part. So, like, when you guys jump on stage and you start playing these songs, are people baffled?

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, I will say I showed the animosity music video to one of my good friends at the security job, and he's watching it right, super nonchalant dude, got long ass locks and everything. He's sitting there Yo Sean, you you moving like you hate your parrots. I was like, I was like, excuse me, but mom, I love you, but like, whoa.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, that's awesome. Um, so normally I ask two more questions to finish things off. Um, this next question I think is pivotal for your career. Uh, what is a band or an artist that you guys would like to see some sort of collaboration with? Not like your dream artist, but like somebody that fits your sound, you know what I mean? That you guys could put like an awesome product out.

SPEAKER_03:

I I gotta say, realistically, one that we've been saying also in previous interviews and for a long time, Drain. Yeah, you know, yeah, we love them, we love to play with them, and they're so cool. And I think we'd fit in with their sounds. Um, you know, they're just a great band, and you know, we look up to them for sure, especially you know, writing the music as well, and kind of when their stuff was coming out, we're super into them. We still are. New record came out today. Love it, right? Right, yeah, it's awesome. So I'd say that for me at least train.

SPEAKER_04:

Can I put one more in there?

SPEAKER_08:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh I'm gonna say power uh power trip power trip.

SPEAKER_08:

That's a cool one. That's a cool one. Yeah, anybody else got any?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh man, those are like two good ones. Those are two good ones.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm kind of scared because I feel like we're gonna bring it down and bring it down an accident.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I'm thinking like what fit more matches.

SPEAKER_08:

Honestly, you guys should do something with uh with Judas Priest.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah. I mean people are thinking, yeah, that'd be awesome. That would yeah, that would be incredible. That would be huge.

SPEAKER_08:

Uh, do you guys have like a favorite um Judas Priest song?

SPEAKER_03:

Metal Meltdown.

SPEAKER_08:

Metal Down? That's a deep cut.

SPEAKER_03:

I love that song.

SPEAKER_08:

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Oh, for me, I'm just gonna be I don't know if this is basic, but Painkiller.

SPEAKER_08:

No, that's not basic. I think painkiller is an incredible song.

SPEAKER_04:

For me, I gotta go with Electric Eye. We used to cover that by the way. Electric Eye? Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_03:

With the intro, too. It's like, damn.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, do you guys remember that on Guitar Hero, or are you guys too young?

SPEAKER_03:

I didn't play Guitar Hero personally. I still I still play Guitar Hero. I played at this arcade I go to, but I didn't grow up playing it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, that's what got me like started on guitar. Like, I had um I had an acoustic guitar and I was playing Guitar Hero 3, and I was like 13, I think, 12, 13, and I was just like, Yeah, I think I could just do this. So I just started learning guitar and never looked back.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08:

What about you? You got any, Sean?

SPEAKER_05:

I was just gonna say Painkiller 2.

SPEAKER_08:

Like, yeah, dude. Painkiller is an awesome song. Uh a sleeper song for them that I feel like people forget sometimes is Breaking the Law.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, it's like a super popular song, but you forget that that's Judas Priest because it just doesn't sound like any of their other stuff. Yeah, um kind of like uh like Toto's Hold the Line doesn't sound anything like Africa, you know?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, so the other question that we ask is uh you guys are a great uh band to ask this question, actually. Um so the show is called the Hook and Bridge Podcast. So we want to ask what is more important for you guys when producing songs, um, when writing songs, uh, the hook of a song or the bridge of a song? Not too many artists are doing bridges anymore, but you guys are. So

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, I'd really say we're equal on both, because like the hook is very important to us, but also, you know, you need some riffs in there, you know. That's where the riffs come out, the crazy riffs. Right. So I think I'd I mean, say for for all of us just like somewhat equal, yeah. Very equal, very equal ground for both of them.

SPEAKER_08:

I also like that you guys don't use the crutch of turning a guitar solo into a bridge. Like there's a lot of artists that'll do that as well. Um, and you guys have like an intricate bridge that leads into a new section of the song that I like. You know, thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, man. Um, so that is the interview portion. Are you guys ready to play this game?

SPEAKER_02:

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's go, man. Let's go.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah. So this game is called Mixtape. Basically, I'm going to ask you guys a question, and you have to answer with the title of a song. You can choose to be funny or you can choose to be serious, totally up to you. Oh, and we might we might spawn some some stories uh from asking some of these. Yeah. So and each one of you are gonna answer, all right?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, oh damn, I can't. We can't we can't hide.

SPEAKER_08:

All right, so you walk into the club, grab a piece of wall in the back to vibe out. What is the first song that you want to hear? So you're in the club hanging out. What do you want to hear from?

SPEAKER_03:

Like, what type of club though? That's what type of clay, what type of club?

SPEAKER_08:

What type of club like club where there's local shows, or like club like you know, I well I I think like club like like fucking party club, like Usher 50.

SPEAKER_03:

I got my song already. Okay, rocking.

SPEAKER_08:

Yo, party rocking, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

What's the intention tonight? What are we trying to get into? Side quest as if it's kind of freaky, passion fruit. Oh like that song, man. That's a vibe.

SPEAKER_08:

Uh it's 2025, man. My my club days are long gone, so I can't, I can't, I can't vouch for what we're trying to get into. I know what I was trying to do in the club in 2014, 13.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_08:

So I don't know if you I don't know if you guys are doing the same things I was, but I mean you got my answer.

SPEAKER_03:

But oh, that's the bottom jeans. Uh that's okay.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what I was trying to get into back in 2013. He was just thinking about that. My bad. Uh I don't know. I don't really know. It's a good question, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_08:

Finding a respectful woman to bring home to your mother. That's where that's what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, we're putting on like Morgan Wallin or something.

SPEAKER_05:

No hands.

SPEAKER_08:

No hands, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a good one. Yeah. Oh man, I don't even know. Yeah. Like Lollipop by Lil Wayne.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, that's amazing. That's a good one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, yeah. These are great.

SPEAKER_08:

I would go, uh, I would go pony by Genuine.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, okay. I see you. I see you. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_08:

What about you, man?

SPEAKER_04:

Um wait, what was the question? I'm supposed to be. Oh, it's song at the club. You like that? You're in the back. All right. For me personally, if you throw in any song by Project Pat and I'm in the club. Oh my god! I am chilling. Hell yeah. Yeah. Any song by Project Pat.

SPEAKER_02:

Alright, alright. Oh shit. Yeah, that's the best one.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, here you go. You've been frozen, Cryro Frozen, and brought back a thousand years from now. What song do you play for the people of the future to introduce them to your time?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh my god. Call the Cthulhu by Metallica.

SPEAKER_03:

My pick. All right. My pick, I think you can't go wrong with Mr. Blue Sky.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, that's a great pick.

SPEAKER_03:

You can't go wrong with it.

SPEAKER_08:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

People will dig it and it's got all the parts. You know, it's great.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Of my time. Trying to think of something like currents or like uh anything from from today backwards. Oh, okay. So yeah, I see Mr.

SPEAKER_05:

Blue Sky.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, I think Mr. Blue Sky is a great option.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay. I forgot the name of the song. What is this? Ethan knows what I'm talking about. It's this he goes like, Holl at me, Miley Cyrus. I don't discriminate. Oh, it's not an article. I forgot the name of the song, but I'm playing this.

SPEAKER_03:

Is it possible to choose the Austin Powers theme?

SPEAKER_05:

So I'm walk out and playing this like your gadget.

SPEAKER_08:

What you on about those who watched it get it, obviously, but I'm I'm playing that song Ass and Titties. That's the one volunteer. Or just Yeah by Usher. That's also an option.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Up in front, well, I'm home and what about you guys, man?

SPEAKER_08:

Or no, you said Metallica. What about you?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I say call it Tulu because I I just I've woken up from my slumber, so I gotta put everybody on.

SPEAKER_02:

Alright. I guess that's my I'm the only one left. I'm gonna put that one on. Because they won't believe that in the future. You're right.

SPEAKER_08:

Alright. Um you're eight years old riding shotgun next to your dad, and he cranks the volume. What song are you listening to with your dad?

SPEAKER_03:

Um it takes two how old is he?

SPEAKER_08:

Um, I mean, how old's your dad?

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, what if by creed?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Dad song. Or like my so yeah, yeah. Actually, I stay with that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

What if by creed, man? I like that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Who are you guys?

SPEAKER_04:

I'm I'm gonna go with another Creed song because it it's it's just dad rock in a way. So um My Own Prison.

SPEAKER_08:

That's another great one.

SPEAKER_04:

Crank, crank it up, dad. I want to hear that.

SPEAKER_08:

Couple of Scott Snapp fans here.

SPEAKER_02:

Great songs. I'm just gonna say. I'm gonna have to go with like Hotel California by the Eagles.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, there you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_05:

The stuff that my dad will put on, he always put on like put on that it takes too to make a thing go right.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, some like discount?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's what my dad would put on.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah, dude. Um, so speaking of dad rock, how do you guys feel about nickelback?

SPEAKER_04:

Nickelback. I am serious. There there's one song that's really, really heavy.

SPEAKER_03:

I think that might be the same song that Dimebag is on. Yeah. On the solo. I think it is. Yeah, do you guys know that? No. There's a solo on a later Nickelback album that Dimebag is on. No shit. Is it the one with like the car or something? I I don't remember what the album cover is like. Yeah. But I think we're talking about the same song. I can't remember what it's called, but yeah, this is a true fact.

SPEAKER_08:

Hold up, hold up. You're about to blow my mind. Dude, I'm a I'm a big Nickelback fan.

SPEAKER_02:

Hell yeah. Everyone's trying to find a finding song for everyone on.

SPEAKER_03:

Side of a bullet? Yeah, actually, yes, I think it is Side of a Bullet, yeah. That's the song. Unreleased guitar solo. Yeah. Yeah, there's a Dime Bag solo on there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

No shit. And it's a tribute to him. I did not know that, dude. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

It's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, I love that. Uh that's one of my favorite albums of all time for all the right reasons, man. It's a great album. Um, that dude, that that album had all of the hits. It had Rockstar, it had Animals, it had Um Uh For All the Right Reasons, um Fucking Rockstar. Did I already say Rockstar? Yeah. All right, all right. So um, at least you guys like Nickelback. Does that mean that nickelback is coming back like people don't hate Nickelback anymore?

SPEAKER_03:

I don't hate Nickelback. Did it ever did it ever leave?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I don't really know to be honest.

SPEAKER_08:

Alright, let's see here. Okay. Well, this is kind of strange for you guys because you're so young. Uh, picture the girl or boy that you had a crush on. It says in your youth, but we're just gonna say that you guys have a crush on. What song plays when you see her? Or him.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, you know the song where it's like I can't even know what it's called. Um damn, I'm blanking. Okay, this is embarrassing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07:

Dreamweaver?

SPEAKER_03:

Is that it? Do you mind if I listen to it for a second?

SPEAKER_07:

No, not at all, no.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man, I don't know. Um, for me, uh I'm just gonna say uh change in the house of flies by Deathcroats.

SPEAKER_08:

Fuck yeah, dude. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it is it is Dreamweaver.

SPEAKER_08:

Is it Dreamweaver? Yeah, um, I'm trying to think of uh the proper way to say this. I'm gonna say seductive uh Deftones music really is. Yeah, especially House of Flies, man.

SPEAKER_03:

That's yeah, okay, but passenger though. Well, Passengers, passengers are ones, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, emotional one. I would say for me, I would say rosemary by Deftones. Oh, okay, okay. I don't know if I should say mine.

SPEAKER_08:

No, you gotta say it.

SPEAKER_05:

I am not saying legs shaking, I'm saying worse behavior by K1. Just give it a list then, maybe.

SPEAKER_08:

Worse behavior, okay.

SPEAKER_05:

This is the rapper you showed me, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was uh uh it's that's ball right there. Yeah, it's some ball knowledge, yo. You play you played that song when you want to grow.

SPEAKER_07:

Okay. Hey man, I'll try it tonight.

SPEAKER_05:

Try it tonight. Worst behavior by KWN Trez. Okay, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_08:

Chris, what what's yours? I'm so curious. What's what's yours when you when your wife walks in that room?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, oh, we've already gone over this. This is for real. Motion city soundtrack.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, uh I was hoping for uh it's like ninth grade, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like ninth grade.

SPEAKER_08:

Uh let's see here.

SPEAKER_05:

How about you?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, for me, um, I would have to say the song um by Pearl Jam uh Future Days. You might recognize it from the show and uh video game The Last of Us. Uh, but that was my wife and I's song together. Uh that and Extreme um fuck, what's that Extreme song that everybody knows? I can't remember. Like the band? Yeah, the band, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Play with me.

SPEAKER_08:

Play with me is a great song, but that's not the one. No, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, play with me is the one with the with the the uh all the the all the classical stuff in it, right? Well, that's basically just an Eno for you.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, lucky.

SPEAKER_07:

Um, yeah, I'm not sure it's that one that's like saying I love you is not the words I want to hear from you.

SPEAKER_08:

I can't remember the name of the song though. Yeah, it's all um let's see here. Okay, here we go. What's your crowd surfing song? Like a song you're you're seeing a band, and immediately you're like, I'm rushing the stage.

SPEAKER_03:

Recently, and I didn't do it and I regret it because I saw them live. Birds turnstile. I wanted to get up so bad at the end of the show for that, and I didn't do it because it was just it's just such a great moment, you know, just to crowd surf for that. Yeah, I don't know what else though.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't really uh crowd surf, so I don't even I don't know. Um it's like a good crowd surfing song.

SPEAKER_03:

I would I would low key want to crowd surf though, just like laying back like this at the end of the videon.

SPEAKER_00:

And people are just yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm just on my back and people are pushing me forward. I'm just yeah that's that's my pick breakdown, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's my pick.

SPEAKER_08:

Um so I've only crowdsurfed one time in my life. I was at a festival, um, I think in Pittsburgh, uh my wife crowd surfs, or then girlfriend, now wife, crowd surfs, and I had never done it before because I was always a bigger dude. So I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna try it. I was at my thinnest, guys. Like, literally, I was like 180 pounds tops. So I'm like, I'm I'm looking good, I'm beef, you know, I'm gonna try this out. And I go up, and I kid you not, this guy goes, Oh, this guy's so fucking heavy, and then just throws me into a mosh pit. Oh my god, that's gonna be I was I was like your age. I was I was like 17, 18, and I was like, I'm never doing that again.

SPEAKER_05:

You gotta square up after that, dude.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, it was wild. Luckily, the the mosh pits are awesome, so they just help me up, and then they're like, You gotta go around. So then I just fucking moshed, and then after that, I was like, Oh, this is where I belong. I started moshing every time.

SPEAKER_00:

Nice.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, but yeah, dude, fucking dicks. Shout out to that guy, wherever he's at, whatever prison he's sitting in.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like, damn, we gotta throw hands after that.

SPEAKER_08:

All right, last one, guys. All right, what is your go-to drinking song? This is a horrible question for you. We're gonna say apple cider for you guys drinking apple cider too.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Okay, if I were to choose a song, if that was the scenario, right? Um, this is obviously not been done, but if I think I would enjoy it, is Dirt by Allison Chains. But the song like it's just I could just imagine myself like just like this, just like with something in my hands, yeah. Yeah, that's real.

SPEAKER_04:

If I'm like by myself, like in my room, and like I just cracked open a cold one, I'm putting on my own prison by Creed again.

SPEAKER_08:

Really?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Are you a big Creed guy? Um, or you just love that one song.

SPEAKER_04:

I really like the first album, honestly.

SPEAKER_03:

The first album's awesome. I'll tell you this much. When we went to see Turnstyle together, and the entire time when we left and the day after, the only thing that played in the car was Creed. Yeah. So that says basically enough.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, well, I don't want to be that guy, but I don't I'm straight edge, so I don't do none of that. So I'm gonna say the discipline by Earth Crisis.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02:

The straight edge, man.

SPEAKER_05:

So me.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, you're obviously straight edge as well. You put off that vibe in the world for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah. Let's just answer the question. Uh, what's it called? Uh, if I was with you know a little girl, uh, I'd put out a song Deeper by Party Next Door.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, but your graphics won't open at 6 p.m. on a Tuesday or some hard day of work, and you're just oh there you go, yeah. Working man, that's a great pick right now.

SPEAKER_08:

That's a great pick.

SPEAKER_05:

That's a great pick.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, working man by Rush. What a great pick. That's a great that's the right answer. That might be just like the right answer.

SPEAKER_05:

That is the answer. I mean, he just described the second verse. Exactly. Right. Off at five o'clock, and I take myself out a nice cool beer.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah. Um, right there. I'm trying to think. So, like, one of like my favorite activities of all time is I have uh a record player, and I I don't drink anymore, but I used to, and I would crack open like either a beer or pour myself like a glass of like uh bourbon or something, and I'll turn on a record and I'll listen to it front to back. Like that's like my favorite activity.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I get it. What's your favorite one you listen to in your experience?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh dude, I I man, I don't even know. I'm I'm a big Floyd fan, so like I have like Dark Side of the Moon is like one of my all-time favorites. Oh, yeah. Um but like as far as like a listening experience, I really got into a band called Keep Flying recently, and they're so fucking cool, man. If you guys get a chance, check out Keep Flying, they're really, really good. Chris, what what's your uh what's your go-to drink?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh drink and song? Oh let's see if we if we're having a bonfire out in the field. Solo cup. No, god no. Anything but Hank Williams III. Um back in my party days. Oh, it it was shimmy by system of a down.

SPEAKER_08:

Shimmy by system of a down?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, dude. At that point, it's black. Whoa. And once I hit 21, it was like, this isn't fun anymore.

SPEAKER_08:

Yep, that's that's kind of where I was, dude. Once so I started at like probably about 18, somewhere around there, maybe a little younger. Um, so by the time I was like 22, 23, I was just like, eh, all right, it's just another Tuesday at that point, you know? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, guys. Well, um Saint uh or uh uh sorry, change Saint, everybody. Thanks for coming on, guys.

SPEAKER_05:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08:

No, dude, you guys are again, you guys are so fucking cool, man. I if you're ever in Virginia, I will be there. Like, yeah, man. Wherever you guys are, I want to come out and see you because really love the stuff. Um, everybody go check out Chainsaint, it's available everywhere. Uh, what do we got working on right now? Will we in we're in the studio?

SPEAKER_03:

We're doing some pre-production for some upcoming music that's as far as I'll take it.

SPEAKER_05:

We just cooking.

SPEAKER_03:

We just cooking, basically. So we're cooking up right now and um getting some new stuff together and recording it, making it sound good. And yeah, that's all I'll say for now.

SPEAKER_05:

Technically, we just like chopping up the vegetables.

SPEAKER_03:

What he said, cut cutting the meat, putting up yeah, basically, prep.

SPEAKER_08:

I need I need you in dude. I need Sean. I need you in my everyday life just hyping me up with these I got certified hype man.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like, oh that's my guy right here. He's about to get the best podcast. Come on.

SPEAKER_08:

Dude, uh so who uh who's primarily the the lyrics of the band? Who's writing the lyrics? What what's your what's your writing inspiration? Like like where do where where do you pull the essence from?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean it's really just from whatever I'm I mean, at least for blindsight at the time, thinking about or you know, what was happening, or kind of just life experiences and whatnot, things that I could talk strongly about and kind of you know put them into music and into words and stuff that I can just do that more fluidly.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah. Um did you get into songwriting pretty young?

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I mean, all music stuff really started for me at around the same time as guitar with like around 2020 in quarantine. And I mean, I guess I'll just have to say I was just very influenced by other lyricists, like like Neil Peart, especially, fantastic lyricist, you know, um mainly him, but also one lyricist that I remember inspired me in particular for this music was Chuck Schuldner.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I really like his lyrics, and I think he does a fantastic job. And that was something that kind of got me to even want to do more lyrics and keep writing about just stuff that I thought about and liked.

SPEAKER_06:

Do you do you feel that uh blind side is a direct correlation to COVID and your experience during quarantine?

SPEAKER_03:

Not really, it's more just I mean, just things at the time at times we're writing the songs, and as I started writing the lyrics, that I was like, okay, this or this or this, and this is what I feel about this. These are things I'm hearing about, I'm gonna write about it, or it's an experience I just had, I'm gonna write about it. And they kind of made their ways into the songs.

SPEAKER_08:

What's the story behind 1000 tons?

SPEAKER_03:

That was actually a collective um work lyrically with all of us, but it was more you guys all sing on it, right?

SPEAKER_08:

Uh you got like all of you singing on the one.

SPEAKER_03:

Let's go. We got backup vocals, but um we got um we all pitched in on lyrics on that, at least with something, you know. Um, I mean, that song was really, at least for me, born just kind of we we didn't really have our lead singer at the time. We kicked him out, and things were not really looking the way they were at first, and a lot of pressure was there, of course, you know what I mean? And that was a thing, and you know, like I said, life experiences, so write about them. And we ended up just kind of writing all together. And oh yeah, man. Yeah, and that was that was actually the first song we had, Sean in the band writing with us.

SPEAKER_08:

You yeah, hell yeah, guys, dude. Love love the band, love all the music. Can't wait to see the trajectory, can't wait to see your career path. I'm gonna be following you guys super closely, so don't be afraid to come back on. I as soon as you guys are done cooking, I want to talk about this meal.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, let's do it.

SPEAKER_06:

Yep, for sure.

SPEAKER_08:

Hell yeah, guys.

SPEAKER_06:

Sure now.

SPEAKER_08:

All right, have a great night, guys. I'll be seeing you.

SPEAKER_06:

See you guys. Peace. Peace.

SPEAKER_07:

Thanks for listening to the Look and Bridge Podcast.

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