This Might Be The Worst Movie Of 2026... | WFTN #140

You love it when we have such a long episode that we have to break it up into 2 episodes!!! And that's what we're doing today because we had a huge discussion about Attack On Titan which will be posted later on this week!! In the meantime, we got a mando review, box office updates, and a beautiful bow on The Boys as a series and boy is it a great discussion. 

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0:00 Intro/Comments
2:00 Box Office Updates
18:00 Mandalorian and Grogu Review
49:40 Draft Of What We Would Rather Spend $165m On!!!
58:40 The Boys Series Finale Review
1:26:25 Outro

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back everybody to the Words from the Nerds podcast. We try not to do this often, but uh today was a huge episode. Uh we just got finished recording and it came out to about three hours long. So I'm jumping in this intro because the first hour and a half of this was us talking about Attack on Titan season four. It's the first time that Charlie has ever watched Attack on Titan. So I had to get to the nitty-gritty of all of it. So we talked about Attack on Titan for about an hour and a half of this episode. The rest of it is a lot of fun. Uh box office talk. We we talk a lot about our box office and our draft with that. Um, Mandalorian and and Grogu review, which is honestly one of my favorite reviews that we've ever done for a movie. It was such a fun time. And then we talk about the boys series uh season finale. So I'll have all the time codes in there that you can jump around. Just know that there's no intro for this episode. And uh, as soon as this intro that I'm recording right now fades, uh it is right into the action with Box Office Talk. So uh that is to clear up some of the confusion. If you want the Attack on Titan episode, that will be dropping in a couple of days. That will also have an intro on it. Um, but yeah, I we talked for three hours, it was so much fun. So I had to jump on here and use this as an intro. So please like, comment, sub. Obviously, if you comment, we will read it out next week live on the pod. So any thoughts that you have from this episode, let us know. If you disagree with any of our takes, let us know so that we can uh talk about it next week. It gives us a good topic for next week. So um please show some love, show some support. No Ben today, but we got Brandon filling in in his position. So we got a lot of fun stuff. If this is your first time, welcome aboard. Uh, check out some of our other videos. Uh, it's always a fun time. It's always fun. You'll never find a dull moment here. So I appreciate you. Uh yeah, that is it for the intro. Enjoy the episode. And I'll see you in the next one. Next one is our big box office fun. Uh, we got Brandon here for the first time since we we did uh our box office. We we get to go through all of this. Um, let me type some stuff here real quick. Okay. All right. So we haven't heard from Brandon since we did our draft. Uh, we have the board right here. Uh, we've talked about it these past couple of weeks. Um, it seems like almost every week we're talking about it a little bit because there's some brand new some new things going on. We won't touch too deep on on like this weekend, aside from Charlie's monster movie. Just breaking freaking century-long records.

SPEAKER_05 2:46

I I I said I was feeling uh uh feeling a 100 million, bro. I said that.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Well, it's funny because I it was based in nothing, but I was saying I was listening to the episode, and you were like, uh, you were like, Yeah, dude, I think this will have a like a pretty good hold second week. I don't think the drop will be that bad. Yeah, it reversed, dude. It freaking went up 39. That's just insane.

SPEAKER_05 3:08

Well, dude, because and I I was worried about what's what's passenger. I was worried about that one, man.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

Oh, yeah, and then passenger, like just nobody when you watched. Um, but uh Ben, Ben is not here to talk about his movie, and we'll talk about it a little bit later. Um, well, we'll review it later. We're definitely talking about this right now because he's I'm only told I get to talk about Mando. I'm just saying, but Brandon, uh let us know your thoughts. Just because we haven't checked in with you, in terms of your summer draft, like how are you feeling now? As we're getting a little bit closer, we're about to touch June, which you have a lot of movies. I think every almost every week in June you have a movie and then the first two weeks of July. But that and uh Mario being really close to breaking a billion for the first time this year. Tell us take us through your thoughts on on how you're feeling with the end of your winter and the beginning of your summer.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Yeah, so I'll start with the hit pick. Uh, we talked about the fantasy league responding to things and their statistics they gave out. It makes me feel better that everybody apparently or most people drafted Mario as a hit pick, because for me, that was like the easiest billion dollar profit, I thought in my mind. I did not expect that to drop as hard as it did. It'll still cross a billion, like it's gonna be really slow. It and Michael will probably cross a billion at the same time, but my expectations for like profit on that were definitely an easy billion instead of what's gonna be 730 million dollars, which is still great. Um, because you never know how the rest of the year is gonna go. I obviously have doubts that I'm the highest out of all of us, um, unless all your guys' movies are just insane budgets.

SPEAKER_05 4:49

Um minions could be crazy.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

Well, well, and that's my next that was my next thing. Uh like minions, I think minions budget will probably be 80 million because the last one was 90, and this one has less. Has less like voice actors. Um it's just the weird, like the one dude who does it. Um, and the trailer plays really well at all of our showings. Yeah, so I'm hoping, yeah, oh yeah. Well, yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

The three part one that they did was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Yeah, at Mando, they it it's like three trailers, and every time they popped up, people laughed in our theater. And I was like, what are you all? I'm this is the first minions movie I'm gonna see just because I have it. And I'm like, this does not look good, but how is everybody laughing? I'm I'm super confident, minions. I think that's like an easy 700 plus profit that I'll kind of make up for Mario. Scary movie, I'm pretty confident in that plays really well around us. It's Jackass and Disclosure Day that really worry me. I'm not worried about disclosure day unless the budget is high, because like my father-in-law, or our father-in-law, and uh my wife's uncle both told me how they want to see it. And I'm like, okay, so that means the general audience is very aware of this movie.

SPEAKER_05 6:06

Why do they want to see it? Because of because of the alien stuff. No, the alien. Oh, just alien stuff.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Okay. I I I have well, yeah, with them too, especially the alien stuff. But I I've I've had coworkers come up to me and they they're like, dude, what's that one alien movie? It looks so sick. And I'm like, oh yeah, disclosure day. Oh, yeah, I have to see that one. Yeah, like people are we working on.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

It is a it is an event. That's what gives me more confidence in Masters of the Universe bombing hard because everybody who I think would see that are is actually gonna see disclosure day the next weekend.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

So like yeah, well, and Brandon, you keep you keep bringing up a great point where it's like inflation is a real thing. People are gonna pick and choose what they spend their money on. Like, not everyone is like us, like they're gonna they're gonna pick and choose what to spend their money on this summer.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

Yeah, and I think jackass is kind of a wild card. I'm hoping at best at this point, 20 million profit. I actually will be honest, because I think I could have gone and got it. I kind of did debate obsession, and looking back, I'm like, I'm such a fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Um yeah, yeah, well, especially with yeah, what came after it.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

But yeah, I and Jackass comes out the same week in a super girl, which I didn't realize, so that could be uh we'll kind of see how that plays out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 7:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Um, but yeah, I mean, as long as disclosure day's budget is like 120, I think I'm more confident in it. But once you get above that, I'm really nervous.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

But we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Um I think I think disclosure day will be a good like five, six hundred million dollar movie. And if if it really is gray, I think it'll just take off from there.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

I think it could, I think the low end is 400, but I think the high end is six plus. I just don't know how high because obviously or I don't the budget's what worries me. That's really it. I I mean I think it could go super high and be that like big breakout of the year of like an original film. Because really it's competition after his Toy Story, Supergirl, Minions. None of those really affect disclosure day. It's not really your Odyssey the next month that it's like running into something that it actually is in direct competition with.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Yeah. Well, you're gonna get lucky. I'm not gonna catch you. I'm close, but I think with everything as we hit June, especially when you'll hit a bomb, yeah. Um I'm not gonna catch you, but I do like to see 530 next to my name. That's really pretty to look at. I'm when I when I looked at Project Hail Mary's total profit and I saw it was 350. I was I was really happy with that. Um, yeah, we don't have to to dwell too much on this. I really more so just want to talk to you. Oh, they updated Mortal Kombat's picture. Um that's cool. I I really just uh more so want to talk to you about the league itself, especially. I hope this motherfucker is listening, Mandalorian and Grogu. Um, please give us your box office thoughts when it comes to this. Um I'll save the good things for last for his sake, which is gonna be backrooms, which is gonna just absolutely explode. But Mando.

SPEAKER_05 9:09

Let him have it, Brandon. Come on, let him have it. Wait, wait, see, does it show the domestic? Is it working again? Domestic and uh dang.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

That's yesterday's gross, though. Or that's not including whatever it makes today. Yeah, yeah. Today is the 165. All right, which is slow.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

I mean, it's it's updated, but it will probably be tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yeah, yeah. Here's the thing with Mandalorian and Grogu. It's I'm not fully prepared to bash it because if it legs out by some act of God next week, I'm not doing this, but if it performs solo did, which opened in the same range, actually, it opened less than solo did worldwide on the same weekend back in 2019 when everybody was seeing stuff way more. If that's the case, this thing makes $389 million, and that is a loss for him. And I just I just don't know. I unless this plays differently than I think it will, I still don't think this thing breaks 400 million. And every estimate is everybody's kind of scared to make that call until next week's drop, which it's facing the back rooms, which we'll get to in a second. But like the younger audience that they need to draw in with this is going to the back rooms, and so I just think you're facing I think you're facing a hard drop. I think this struggles to make 250 million domestically, and then I mean it only made 60 million internationally. So, like if you do the 2.5 multiplier for bodos just on the low end, you barely get 400 million. And so I just think this thing has I don't know, I it could leg out, and that's what scares me, but I just I you know, even the people I talk to that like it were kind of still like it's a nothing movie, and so I don't know, word of mouth is not I'd be I'm so curious to know what Ben thought of it, but word of mouth just hasn't been great, so I just don't I just don't think it's gonna do I don't think it's gonna break even.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

We'll see, yeah, you know, we'll see, but I just don't think I'm dying at Charlie over there, just hands on his head, just I know that boy liked this movie, bro. I know he liked it, bro. I know he did. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

It's it's brutal for the boy. And this was this was Ben's number one pick of the summer season. Um, just for reference, the the number one picks went as minions uh with Brandon Moana from Charlie, Devil Wears Prada from me, and then um Mando and Grogu for for Ben. Um Devil Wars Prada has been amazing to me. Moana's up in the air. Um, and and Brandon talked about minions earlier. But I say all that to say there's no way that this should have ever been a hit pick, or not a hit pick, a 1.4 for Ben.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Since he's not here, I did want to pick your brain, Charlie. Would you have ever picked this?

unknown 12:16

No.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

What round?

SPEAKER_05 12:17

See, that's what like maybe, maybe my last pick. Maybe if it was still.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

That's where I'm at. I would have picked it fourth, but Ben would have gone way before any of us to get the last pick. So I just like I keep replaying that he picked it first.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yeah, yeah. When he had everything else, dude. I even tipped my hand to him. I told him, I told him like before we started recording, I was like, all right, I'll tell you like where this pro like I'm I'll tell you a project and where it's at on my board, like just to give you like a little hint. And I was like, I have Mando as like the the last pick of my of my group in of my third round, if that makes sense. So I had four films for each round. Mando was my fourth film in my third round, and uh he was like, Wait, you said it's in your third, and I was like, Yeah, he was like, Oh, okay, interesting. I I even tipped him off with that.

SPEAKER_05 13:08

So what was what else was there for him to pick? Obviously, he got backrooms next.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Which it we'll say, well, you there's a long discussion about it come July. I think it breaks even the how high it goes is such a wild card, but I think it's more I think it's probably more of a guaranteed profit than Mando is, but obviously we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

I mean, yeah, well, that it's that it's not even like what he could have picked before that he would have thought would make profit, it's just or that he would have thought would have been a good first round pick. It's literally just something that's a better pick than Mando. Like, and I think literally all of these, like like Brandon's uh first two Odyssey and uh Paul Patrol was he would have never picked Paul Patrol there, but like Odyssey. I don't know. I I don't know. Like looking back through, my my point isn't as solid. I think the grounds here is that Mando was a bad first round pick.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah, I think it's fine as a pick if it just wasn't first, and that's what I'll I'll tell the damn. I would have picked it if it was there at the very end. I would have picked it over disclosure day. I just think choosing it over the Odyssey is like, and we'll see. Maybe he'll get the last laugh. Maybe Odyssey will lose you 200 million dollars or something. But you know, I I don't know. I just don't think I think Mando's not gonna break even. But I backrooms will save him. Obviously, we can have that discussion.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Oh man, backrooms are gonna make it. Yeah, backrooms I think is gonna make a lot of money. I think like I will just throw it out there. I think it'll be like a $200 profit, a $200 million profit for him.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

I don't know if well on the high end international is gonna be interesting because the tracking today, I was gonna send it to you, but I was like, I'll wait. Um, is that it's tracking similar to the Conjuring, the last one, which opened to $81 million domestically. So I think there's a chance this just demolishes whatever legs Mando has and opens to $80 plus million dollars, which international will be the interesting thing. Horror is kind of all over the place internationally, like obsession has probably ran its course internationally, but backrooms is unique, I guess, in the way it's approached. So I don't know, but I still think it's a 200 million domestic for sure. I think it's in that range. Um I mean the weekend after it's got a lot of competition, but I still think I still think it holds really well.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Yeah, this this is gonna make him so much money, and I I kick myself, I really shouldn't, because there was no way in any universe I was gonna do this. I really should have gone backrooms number one, devil wears Prada number two, and just let him have Odyssey and let him take that gamble with it because I know that he would have, and he probably would have gone Odyssey Mando or Mando Odyssey. You're with the was Mortal Kombat, yeah. But I went, yeah. So I could have gone backrooms with the 1.3 and then turned around and done Devil Wears Prada because there was no way uh Ben admitted that there was no way he was gonna pick Devil Wears Prada, he would have gone Mando Odyssey, and I kicked myself even though I know I shouldn't, because there was no universe where I would have done this, but I kicked myself because I know that that was a possibility now. And I just don't know in the moment.

SPEAKER_06 16:17

I mean, sure.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

I'm greedy, yeah. Uh, and then Power Ballad. I I'm I'm sorry, Ben. I don't think that this is as good of a pick. Like, I I think you could have gone a lot of other directions because uh Brandon made a good point. Power Ballad is opening with scary movie, Masters of the Universe, and Digital Circus. Like that is uh damn, that is a lot to compete with.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Yeah, they're actually doing a limited run of it this weekend, this coming weekend, and then doing like the wide release next. I think it's pretty much DOA. I'm excited for it because I like the director. Um but I would be unless the budget is like super, super low, I think this would be negative. Uh at best, it's maybe like a couple million dollars profit, but I also wouldn't be shocked if it's like a 20-30 million dollar loss.

unknown 17:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:08

I didn't know it jumped up to 1904. I like that. Performs like normal.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Enjoy it, enjoy it for a week or two. Yeah, I know. Yeah, we're we're about to eat some dirt. But it's fine, Charlie. We got we got our hit picks this yeah, it's true, baby. It's gonna be a good summer.

SPEAKER_05 17:24

It'll be less than a month till Toy Story for me, right? Less than a month. Ooh, let's go, baby.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, we'll get to the show.

SPEAKER_05 17:32

You get some projections? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Which just so you know, not to like encourage you, but family films rarely do well in pre-sales.

SPEAKER_05 17:41

Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Just yeah, it like Zootopia people were like it's like, yeah. Well, because families buy everything.

unknown 17:48

I mean, you're you gotta pre-order four to six tickets in advance.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

They're normal people don't do that, and so normal people don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

All right, well, that was um well.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Last thing I wanted to say, this is this isn't really in regards to the box office thing, because I just remembered because uh Aiden sent me a video of uh Indy Navaretti playing COD. And uh I I meant to bring this up.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

I meant to bring this up to Brandon too.

SPEAKER_05 18:17

Oh, really? I meant to I meant to bring this up last week when we were talking about obsession. Um, but like obviously I know Indy from Superman and Lois. Like uh I haven't seen all of Superman and Lois, but she uh from what I've seen that she was really good in that as well. Um but I don't even remember how, but I I saw one day that she was streaming on Twitch. I don't remember how I found that because I don't I don't follow her on anything. I didn't like I don't follow her on on anything, but then when I saw she was streaming on Twitch, I was like, an actress streaming on Twitch? I was like, fuck it, I'll follow, I'll follow that. And dude, she used to stream all the time, bro. She used to stream all the time. I'm I like no joke, because I like I get Twitch notifications, and like I think it it was it was caught and she played Fortnite sometimes too. And like, bro, she was she was uh I was in those streams, bro. I would like just pop in and be like, this is interesting, like why an actor's just doing this like all right, but uh I mean Indy, if you're like she hasn't streamed in like 10 minutes. No, hold on, wait, you guys don't even know what I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_07 19:17

Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

You guys don't even know what I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 19:21

That just sounded like you're about to be like, if you're watching this, yeah, no, no, okay, all right, yeah, I see what you're saying. Uh yeah, I mean, Indy, if you're watching this, I mean let's be honest, you're watching this, you're watching this, or up there.

SPEAKER_05 19:35

I know you're watching this. Um, but like she hasn't streamed in 10 like 10 or 11 months or something like that. When I went and looked at her Twitch account the other day. Like, I've she might have stopped when they started filming Obsession. I'm telling you, you come back right now, you I you will make boatloads of money.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

You will make I am I'm telling you, Indy, you will make a stupid amount of money. You should you should probably come back to streaming, but that's I mean, whatever. You do you, obviously. You go, girl.

SPEAKER_06 20:06

Oh my god, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

You you do you. I mean, yeah, come on. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, do both. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

You know, who knows, man? That was I truly thought you were gonna hit uh Indy if you're watching this.

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Oh no, I mean Indy if you're watching if you're indie if you're watching, I know you're watching. Come on now. Oh gosh, biggest podcast in the world.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

Come on, uh skatepod. We have to do our weekly mention. Shout out to Skate Pod, second biggest podcast below us. Moving on, uh to the Mandalorian Grogu, because this is this is, I think, what we are jumping in here for, you know. Um, if Attack on Titan, if Charlie had never started it, there is still a universe where we're coming in here talking about this movie, and I'm glad Brandon is here. Um, I think we all kind of know our thoughts, um, especially because I I texted y'all about something I want to do at the end of this review that I think would be fun. Um but for the sake of the audience, Mandalorian and Grogu came out this past week. We've talked about it a little bit. Let's give our official reviews with a thumbs up, down, sideways, whatever gesture you want to make in three, two, one.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

It's like not all the way down, but it's like it's I think we're about the same. Yeah, um, which is funny, Brandon, because my my star rating might be a little bit lower than yours, Brandon.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

And you got the two thumbs down, but I think all of our ratings might are like on the fence of dropping a little bit after this discussion.

SPEAKER_05 21:49

Dude, no, I'm on the I'll I'll say like I'm I was I was at two stars, but then I was looking because I gave Mortal Kombat two stars.

SPEAKER_04 21:56

Mortal Kombat's better than this fucking shit.

SPEAKER_05 21:58

I would probably I would. Probably drop down to one and a half.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

One and a half, really. I think so. Two stars. And what's funny is Mortal Kombat was also my kind of line. I'm like, I gave Mortal Kombat three stars. I had a lot more fun with Mortal Kombat. I'll give this two stars because, like, I do think there's a star difference right here.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Yeah. Mortal Kombat was my wall.

SPEAKER_07 22:21

Well thought.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Whereas like this is a bad movie, but it's a fun bad. Where this one.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's not a lot of fun here. More like uh watching paint dry.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

Dude, that's what I'm saying. I don't understand the people that like listen, I don't want to yuck people's yum. Like, if you actually enjoy the movie, great. I I I am happy for you. I don't want to take that away from you. I just wonder why, though. Like, what what about it? Like, is it just that Grogu's cute? Is that what it does for you? Because I would argue the action is not great. It's not bad, but it's not great. Like, there's nothing that, like, uh I'm not looking at him doing it, like the way it's edited, too. It's just uh the final fight with with with spoilers, I guess. Not that there's anything to spoil in this fucking movie, but then uh you you cut to like uh Mando and the other bounty hunter, I don't even know his name. I know he's a uh he's in other stuff, but I'm not a Star Wars guy. So anybody wants to say I'm blinded by nostalgia of old stuff, I'm not a Star Wars guy. Suck me. Mandalorian, Mandalorian versus the other bounty guy, and then Rada versus his his his aunt and uncle. Just the way that's cutting back and forth between the two of them, and the way that it's cutting and in those individual fights, I'm just like I don't know what's going on. I don't like uh who's throwing punches, who's throwing them how hard, like uh where's everybody at? I don't know. I like what the hell is happening? I the the coolest action scene, I think, is the very beginning of this movie. Like, I will say they lock me in, they locked me in at that at that beginning part of the movie. I was like, all right, this is a pretty sick, this is cool, I'm here for this. But then when you get to the rest of the movie and there's absolutely nothing fucking going on, plot story, character-wise, holy shit!

SPEAKER_04 24:07

Oh my god, what were you doing in the beginning part of this movie, bro? Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

Yeah, I just I just can't fathom like how they watch this and they're like, This is good. Like, dude, that's this has a story.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

What fucking story is I go for it, go no continue, please continue.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Like, there's no block, and like it bothers me so much that this feels like several episodes of the show. Like, I see the season vision, and that's what pisses me off watching it because I'm like, it'd be really cool if this wasn't like I was watching the TikTok moments of season four of Mandalorian, where it's like, okay, like I went to the bathroom and came back, and I was like, Did I miss anything? Like, it I feel like we get a huge jump, and like nothing had happened. I, you know, being able to just pick right up and the Grogu stuff, which is cute at times.

SPEAKER_07 25:01

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

That 15 fucking minute stretch. I because at some point I was like, there has to be something more. Like, come on. Like, I get it, he's cute, and I love the puppets, but what are we doing? Why are we still here? And like you think you you want me to believe you're gonna kill Mando in his first movie? The whole fucking reason we're doing this is for the cash pow of merchandise of this goddamn character. You think you're gonna kill him in this movie? Like, I hated that that went on for so long. If it was Grogu having to be on his own, kind of like they had set up with him and the Babu Freaks, I could have given that. If you want to do a 50-minute stretch of them getting there, whatever. But the fact that it's just him guarding Mando, I was I was like losing my mind. I kept checking my phone, I was like, this has to be over soon. And it just kept going.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Yeah. It's it's oh man. I I wrote in my review, and this is what this was what I told my my co-workers, a super casual general audience, and he was just like, What'd you think of the movie? Because he was like, I just he he kept trying to find the word for plot, and I helped him get there, but he's like, I just feel like there's like no goal. Like, where's the goal in this? And I'm like, the word you're looking for is plot, buddy, and there's none of it in this. Uh, but my my sentiment whenever I because I wrote a I actually wrote the review and I meant to do it, I didn't do it because just because I thought to, I thought I had to. I was like, This is a great like theater premiere, like how the boys did their finale, the first two episodes of Mandalorian season four, theater exclusive premiere, and there's 40 minutes of extra footage just for the theaters of Goku doing nothing. Like, you want some extra footage? Oh my god, I thought I was a mastermind coming up with that, but that's genuinely what it feels like. Like, I was like, man, if we could, and then we'll talk about this later, if we could put this budget towards just season four of the Mandalorian, I would have loved that. Like, I I would have I would have appreciated it because like while season three I do think is kind of like this movie, just a lot of nothing. Uh let's get Mando and Grogu back together and just like tell a story, just one singular story with him and Moff Gideon. Uh, I would still watch a season four of Mando and I would still like it just because like that beginning action scene really reminded me why I love the character of the Mandalorian so much. Um, especially starting it off with like, I think those first 20 minutes are really so good of just finishing up a mission and then showing, hey, we need this guy in order to get there, go here first and do this. And it's it's cool because it's like a setup of like, oh, this is a great first episode or like a great second episode. Like, we're we're gonna get to see him explore and and go on this adventure to get to his ultimate goal. And we get to Shikari and it's cool, it's different, it's like a uh cyberpunk, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. It's like uh I was gonna say a cyberpunk uh corusant, but yeah, Chicago's great. Um it's it's it's really cool, it's like a futuristic uh corusant, and and I thought that that was really um I thought that was really cool. Martin Scorsese did awesome. Like, I think how we were getting to up to the Rada, the hut stuff he agreed to do, bro.

SPEAKER_04 28:15

Why did he look at this and he's like, Yeah, man, I'll be pretty good. I mean, that check, that check must have been crazy. He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna fund my next Leo movie with this shit. That's what he's saying.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Oh my gosh. That Disney money, bro. They they hit that from the budget. Um, but yeah, I I'm just like like up to the Rada stuff is great. Um, I was gonna make another joke, uh just biting off of Brandon, what you sent me last night. You could have gone to the restroom any conversation between Rada and Mando, and you would have gotten it again later in the movie. You would have this much. I'm not gonna bother.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

Jeremy Allen White, what the fuck are we doing? Why?

SPEAKER_05 28:53

I think everybody phoned it in, though. Like Jeremy Allen White, that was crazy phoning in. Pedro Pascal, crazy phoning in, bro. All almost all of his voice lines were so fucking bad. Sigorney Weaver phoning it in as well. Like, what are we doing, man?

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Oh my god, as soon as as soon as you mentioned him phoning it in, like everyone phoning it in, dude. You're on the money with Pedro Pascal, because even when they take his helmet off and he's just like this the whole time, just mad. That's all it is. And I don't even think I think he maybe says like five lines of dialogue with his helmet off, and then it's back on, and uh, you just know somebody else is in there, and he's just recording all his lines in post, and it's just Grogu, stay here. You know, to be a like he'll be a good kid.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

That's it. Nah, dude, Grogu's a pet, Grogu's a pet, bro. And that boy is not your son.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Stay chill, like, what the fuck? Well, and I also like I think the sentiment of like them riding themselves in an eternal hole of Grogu being a Yoda and aging as slow as he is. You're stuck, you're stuck with this, like for like we are not gonna get a moment, and this was this was kind of making me sad in the movie because I realized we're never getting a moment of Grogu going off on his own and like growing up and like leaving Mando, and they're trying to force that, but they still have Grogu cooing like a baby and like not even forming like half a sentence. Um, I don't even think we've heard him talk yet or say anything yet. And it's like, when will you ever get to this point and have it actually feel like uh an emotional like goodbye between them two? And do we even get there? Is there anything else? He stops making money exactly. Like, is there anything else on the horizon that's even gonna feel warranted for this? Like, and it sucks because I think Mando's such a cool character, and that's what that's what keeps pissing me off. Is he is such a cool character that I feel like can offer so much more because we saw it in the first season. The bring you in hot or cold, that's that gotta pop out of me. I'm not gonna lie. But again, it this just feels like I hate that Mando, I hate that this character in this show has become Disney's biggest merch and cash grab post or post Disney buying Star Wars. Like they I think they realized that they couldn't do anything with the uh sequel trilogy, and then Mando just caught like a flame catching wind, and they were like, Oh, let's go, we got it, this is it, hook line sinker, and then they just took it from there, and this is what this is the fucking slop we're getting out of it, man.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

I want to know, Charlie. It I don't know what you've watched of it, so I'll just kind of I want to know the discussion that was letting Grogu go in season two and then instantly reverting back in Book of Oma Fett. Was it like, hey, we're scared of the money, or was like what because this movie is just like the clear definition of hey, here's a couple cute merchandising moments for Grogu that we can use. Everyone in that theater, well, most of the women in that theater at my showing were wearing Grogu merch, and I'm like, this is just this is the reason this movie exists. Dave Peloni shows up twice in his god.

SPEAKER_04 32:18

Yeah, twice.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

No, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

Yeah, yeah. Biggest iron ever.

SPEAKER_05 32:23

Holy shit. Dude, when I saw him the first time, I was like, I was like, okay, of course. But I was like, I was willing to let it go. I'm like, lots of directors do that, but then I was thinking, like, well, they usually tie it into the story at least. But then he shows up again, and I was like, all right, bro, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? Not that he's the director, I guess, but he well, he's a he's the secondary. He's a writer. Oh, and yeah, he was a yes, and yeah, he was a secondary director.

unknown 32:46

Yeah, so John.

SPEAKER_05 32:48

Speaking of the director, speaking of the director, John, what happened to my goat? What happened to my goat, bro? Oh, no, what happened to my goat after Iron Man?

SPEAKER_01 32:55

That makes me think that Dave Faloni was like way more involved than just, I mean, obviously, but oh my god, like I saw somebody, I saw a tweet, uh, I saw a tweet that said that Dave Falone said that all the people that uh they fight in the in the ring like are background characters from the original trilogy or something. And then someone quote tweeted it and was like, Dave, Dave Falone genuinely needs to fucking die.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

It's okay, it's that fucking chess board.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Yeah, I yeah, I hate Dave Loney. I have been so nervous about this. I I'd love to have this conversation with Ben opposed to fucking Van Lord and go. This is what I this is the slop I'm worried about. If Starfighter is bad, I'm burning Disney to the ground. I will be there. Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 33:45

No, I mean it's actually insane, man.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

What's crazy to me is like last week the mall show, pretty good. I was actually pleasantly surprised. Then I turn around to watch this, and I'm like, oh, okay, that was a slap in the face. That was my bad for believing in you. Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 34:01

I thought you could do something here.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 34:05

So wait, are we more worried then? Like, give me the hot or cold with Kathleen Kennedy out. You're more worried now?

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Yes, I understand. I understand that she had problems. I I'm not gonna argue against her. I think she this the sequel trilogy existing the way it does, she should have had a better vision for that. I understand Disney mandated a lot of things, but there's a lot of decisions she had to have made that really bother me. Whatever is going on with Felone, I'm worried he's too in the depth of the lore of Star Wars. Because like that scene where it is the these are the background characters, all those fucking characters are the holograms on the chessboard from a new hope. I don't give a shit that you did that. I don't care that you want Zeb, Zeb is in this and is another character.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

And then we're like why why did they pair like what is the point? I know Zeb was in season three, but why Zeb and Mando as bounty hunting buddies? What is the point?

SPEAKER_00 35:07

He gets one action scene, and then he also gets to tell Rada that, like, oh, you can probably join us, and then he's just forced to pilot them around. What the fuck are you doing with this character?

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah, like yeah, you made him a good character, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

Yeah, it's just like this to me, I'm gonna say this this is the worst Star Wars movie. I I I I stand by this because it's not a movie, it is the biggest movie. Like, at least solo, which a lot of people or Rise of Skywalker, whether or not I like the plot, it was trying. They tried to have a plot in there. What the fuck was this trying? I just yeah I I I get that, like it just feels like this is what scares me with Feloney is that it's too much of like, here's this thing and this thing, and like let me bring back Rada, who was a character in the Clone Wars movie. Let's bring back Zeb, let's start to reintroduce these characters, but like why? Like, who's asking for this? Like, why why do this Mando doesn't have an arc, Grow doesn't have an arc. There's no like where they start at the beginning is where they are at the end, and like it doesn't the only thing that improves is the ship. Like he gets his ship back, oh oh another merchandising thing.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

Yes, dude, as soon as I saw it was a new ship, I was like, Are we fucking kidding? I love his old ship, and we don't get to see it put to use once in this fucking movie, dude.

SPEAKER_05 36:32

God damn, you know, I've seen I've seen a lot of people, not maybe not a lot, but I've seen a subsect of people.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Bro, I love this shit.

SPEAKER_05 36:40

I was building this.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

I was so you got Mando, and then you even have a compartment for Grogu. Like, I love this shit, and we didn't get to see we have to see it sitting next to the new one so that they can fucking sell a Lego set of that. I'm not buying that shit, man.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

Well, how is Rada supposed to get around? You're not thinking about Rada, you know Rada.

SPEAKER_05 37:01

That's what that's what I was gonna say. Is some people say that that that Rada has an arc in this movie with him saying he wants to step out from his dad's shadow. That's all he says. That's not an arc. He just says that he wants to do that. That's not an arc. That's not do you know what a fucking character arc is? Like, what are you talking about? That's not an arc for a character. And then like sure, the we're gonna say, we're gonna say, oh yeah, uh the the movie the movie's fun, guys. Not everything needs to have a plot or a story or a character arc or character development in any sort of way, shape, or form. It's just fun. Oh, I'm sorry, bro. My bad, bro. I'm just supposed to fucking eat the Disney slop. My bad, bro. Holy shit. Fuck. What the fuck are we talking about, man?

SPEAKER_04 37:50

Holy shit. Ben, I know you liked this movie, bitch. I know you liked this fucking movie. I fucking know you did. And you're gonna have to fucking you better come prepared to defend your fucking shit, buddy. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 38:04

You think he listens to this?

SPEAKER_04 38:06

Maybe not. He doesn't usually listen to the he doesn't usually listen to the episodes he's not on, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Dude, and I think that we use the Rada hand on top of Grogu. I'm positive that's used three times in the movie. And the same dialogue of uh the same dialogue of you've got a good dad or whatever, like just retort. Same thing with the I'm not my father. You know, what the like I just the more I think about this movie, the more mad I get. Because I'm like, what give me the list of the editors? The only good thing about this movie is the soundtrack, like the score.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Oh yeah, yeah. I want to give it his bag, bro.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Can't can't do anything wrong. I the score, the opening minutes when the score starts playing. I was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_05 38:50

Oh, dude, the one I'm at Chicago Planet, bro, that keeps playing over and over. I love that. The techno or like yeah so good, so good. He like he saved that's my two and a half stars.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

Is that it's his fault. The score deserves a five out of ten or whatever, but like the rest of the movie, holy fucking shit.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

I I I was gonna say, like, I actually really loved them uh introducing all of this like an episode from the show. Like, whenever it uh shows the whenever it says The Mandalorian and Grogu in the same font of the show, and you the whole time you just hear the theme, like hearing that in IMAX was really freaking cool. It was just it that was like okay, I'm a little bit hyped, like I couldn't mess with this. And the first that first action sequence and them on the on the planet and Mando doing his thing. I was like, all right, bro, this is like again, up until they get to Shakari, I was like, I don't know what people are smoking. This is a this is a seven out of ten right now. Like, this is a three and a half star movie. I'm I'm messing with this big time. Um, and then yeah, I mean, we know the rest of it. And then the rest happened.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

Yeah, when it um when it brings in the guy and it cuts to him going home, Taylor leaned over and goes, that's the end of an episode. And I was like, I thought that was the end of the movie. Yeah, I thought I thought it was over. I was like, Oh yeah, all right, we still have the hunts. I was like, I know I've seen the scene in the trailer with his mask off. So I was like, we still have more fucking movies.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent, yeah, man. Uh it's it that I checked my phone and I was like, man, I I think we our showtime was 7.15. Uh, of course, with the AMC, the the trailers are ridiculously long. So about 30 minutes in. So I was like, okay, about 7.45 is when this started. I checked my phone, it was 8 30. And I was like, Yeah, okay. I okay, so it's about an hour. I was like, all right, if they have about 30 more minutes, and then when I see the Cad Bain character, I was like, oh, okay, I'm starting to remember a lot of the trailer. We still have the Grogu like meditating scene, we still have the snake. I was like, okay, I'm kind of cautious, knowing that we have that much left. Uh, we're nowhere near that right now. Uh, I'm kind of cautious on how that goes. But yeah, that truly does feel like the end of episode one. It's like, okay, cool. Here is like welcome back to the Mandalorian season four. Like, we got an in-theater premiere of the first two episodes of Mandalorian season. Like, that is generally what it felt like. Hey guys, y'all are so excited. We're showing the first two episodes in theater. Like, that is what this fucking felt like, dude.

SPEAKER_05 41:35

Interestingly, uh, little thought thing I have for you guys. If we if they found if we found out that they uh started dropping a season four right after this, like let's say this this weekend, there they like they announced sometime this week season four, and this was this was actually the first like the premier two episodes or whatever. Does that bring this up for you guys? Or the like regardless of how the season four performs, is this higher for you guys then?

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Or uh no, not at all. I don't think so. If now now if season four came out, which is where I thought you were going this direction, um, I'd be there a hundred percent. Like, I would still watch it, and I would be there every night. Uh, but I would just be like, what the fuck was the point of the movie? Like, I I understand, like, uh cool. If we started the season off and it was like a launching point from where we left the the movie off, I would just be like, why not just drop this directly to streaming or do like a special presentation or something? Like it's still it, it doesn't change the fact that that was a the biggest like nothing burger I've wasted time on in a long time.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Yeah, I would say maybe. My answer would be it would really depend on the rest of season four because I feel like these two episodes, if you wanted to say they were just two, feel like nothing. But if you I really feel like this should have been a special presentation. I haven't watched the Daredevil or the Punisher one, but everybody everything I've heard is just like it's Frank just killing people and then accepting that he's Punisher again and now leading into Spider-Man, which I feel like if the Mandalorian Grogu was just this is a special presentation, or whatever Disney want to call it on Disney Plus, I could have accepted it more. So I give you a hard maybe it would really just depend on what it actually played into. I do think that it's still like if for you to have tricked me into not do anything just to be like, all right guys, hey, hey, hey, we we had this blanned out, don't worry. But that's just like uh to have kept it set the secret, I would have been more impressed with.

SPEAKER_07 43:41

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

I don't know, I don't think it would have changed my perspective of it. Gets into the Clone Wars movie argument where that movie is three episodes of the series put together and it's still bad. Like I can never separate that. Like, if you want to remove that from the rankings, be my guest. But at the end of the day, it's still like not. Not great as a film, so I would have to stand by that as like I said, I think this is with the Clone Wars, the war Star Wars movies. And I feel like that would I don't know. You get into a lot of like, I would have to see how it played out. It wouldn't change how I feel right now. I would be more upset because I'd be like, these are two episodes that were like the fears that everybody has with Poloney taking over. And I feel like we would still leave it to that. I don't know. I yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:29

The the last thing I'll I'll say about this movie, and is it's probably the more like the more serious part of it for me, even though I meant everything I said before, just it was obviously played up. But for this, like everybody wants to say, like, not every like as I mentioned before, people are saying not not every movie has to be this big grand thing, like they can just be fun. Right, but this was the first Star Wars movie in seven fucking years, man. I don't think I think that we needed something more than just fun. Even if I were to uh uh cede to the to to that point that yes, this is a this is a fun movie and it's nothing more than that, and it doesn't need to be. Uh or I sorry, I wouldn't cede to that point that it doesn't need to be. But uh if I were to cede to the point that it's a fun movie, I think this place where Star Wars is right now, it needs more than just fun. It needs something compelling, like an Andor. It doesn't need to be as heavy or as as as um I don't want to say grandiose. Uh I I guess I'll just leave it at at heavy, but it doesn't need to be a as heavy or uh anything like that as Andor. Uh but like just show me uh a clear maybe direction as to where Star Wars is headed. Uh uh because like uh here you're just you're you just make me worry more and uh you you make me want to check out more in in in in fact. Like I this doesn't do anything to reinvigorate my excitement now when it comes to the Starfighter movie, my my excitement is surely based on Ryan Gosling, and I think he's gonna give a great performance in that movie. Uh, because also like you add in the fact because Taika Watities directing that one, right? No, it's Sean Levy. Sean Levy, okay. Oh, okay. Right. That I knew it was a director that I was just like, eh. But um because um after Deadpool and Wolverine. Uh but now going into Starfighter, like that's all I have, that's all I'm excited for. Like that it's just the Ryan Gosling aspect of it. I I I have no confidence in Dave Falone's ability to to to write or even oversee a project that can really have anything to say uh or anything of value really that is gonna make me feel like I didn't waste my fucking time go into the fucking waste my time and money sitting in this theater. Like I just don't Star Wars cannot just be carried by all of these uh TV shows that are great, admittedly. Like I heard Mall is great as as Brandon mentioned, uh Andor's great, as we know, and Mando season one and two are great, but like Star Wars needs more than that, and it's just like at this point you're not showing me that, and that is worrisome. That is beyond worrisome. Like it was already worrisome before, having been seven years since, and the last one was garbage, widely considered to be garbage, and now you drop more garbage, and there's uh the people, and I not that I want to blame the viewer, but the people that are just eating it up, no problem, like you're part of the problem. I think you're part of the problem. Like we have uh I don't want to call it a duty, but we I feel I feel like we have a responsibility to let people know, let the people that make these things know that it needs to be better. And you saying that it's just it's just fun. It's it's like, yeah, you're not you're not doing us as a collective any favors.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

So it needs the bomb.

SPEAKER_05 48:08

Seriously, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

I didn't want I almost said that in the group chat, but I didn't want to be like too mean on bin without explaining, but like I hope this movie fails. I hope, not for the sake of the draft, but for the sake of Star Wars. Because if this does well, it sends the wrong message, and then I'm just more pissed off at people. I already had to deal with everybody piss off me on the sequel trilogy and then course correct after Last Jedi. If I have to fucking deal with this Grogu Mandalorian slot for the next however ever long, I'm gonna lose my mind with this goddamn series. Like, don't listen. The fans are the worst people to listen to, so you know I hope it bombs. And Ben, I hope you're listening, not against you, but like I just hope it's bombs for Star Wars' sake, because it needs to understand. Disney needs to understand that this is not acceptable. And I just I'm so worried. It's like the third or fourth highest rated audience score of the Star Wars films.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Yeah, it was like an A-Well.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Well, the Rotten, sorry, the Rotten Tomatoes, 88.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Oh, the Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I that that's that's crazy to me. That's absolutely crazy to me.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Yeah, so that's what scares me out the legs. That's why earlier I wouldn't commit because I'm like, if my mom is like maybe the target audience, and nothing against her, she just loves Roku. She doesn't really care.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 49:26

She loves Grogu. And she doesn't like it. I'm like, yeah, I'm glad you did. I'm glad you did. But this is not what I want.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yeah. Good grief, man. Yeah. Jeez. Well, there, there's your your Mandalorian and Grogu talk. Uh, we will we will now commence this with um a nice little draft. Uh I I reached out to these boys um because as we know, the Mandalorian and Grogu's budget, 165 million dollars. So um I had to kind of pick their brains a little bit on on what they thought about the movie. Brandon usually tells me uh we talk about it right after the movie comes out. Um, but now that he's on this episode, I want to do a nice little loose draft. We'll just go through and say our three things. We're gonna draft what we would have rather spent 165 million dollars on because uh it wouldn't have been this. So um kicking us off first, we'll just start with Charlie. We'll keep this nice, short, and sweet. Okay, what is your first pick for something you would rather spend 165 million dollars on?

SPEAKER_05 50:29

My first one, I went pretty light. Some some something that would be enjoyable, and I don't I don't know how pricing of this stuff works, but I'm just taking a guess. Uh I would have rather spent that 165 million dollars on an actual Mandalorian and Grogu ride in in one of the Disney parks. One of the Disney parks.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

I thought you I thought you were gonna say an actual Mandalorian and Grogu.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

That would have been better.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

A ride, yes, a ride. Okay, I like that. That's a great answer.

SPEAKER_05 51:05

Brandon, like fleshing out the the Star Wars parks a bit more. That's my like serious answer. You'll see the interesting thing.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

Sometimes where I felt like this felt like a ride. I won't lie. This felt like a ride. I got I got the source as he thing.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

So I said, and it was really a mark's gonna say welcome, bro. Welcome on the ride.

SPEAKER_04 51:23

Yeah, welcome to the amusement party.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

My first pick would be giving Tony Gilroy, the crater of Andor, $165 million to do whatever he wants in Star Wars.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Oh, that's fire, Benjamin. That's fire, Brandon. That is fire. That's fire. Why did I say Benjamin? That's fire, Brandon. That is fire. That is actually fire. That's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

That's a great pick. That is awesome. That is a great pick. That is so good. Um, this uh this is not my official answer, but I I thought this was funny, so I'll say it. Uh, 165 million obsessions. Like, give me give me 165 million or 165 obsession movies. Um, no, but actually, uh one of my serious answers, I would take uh this money and put it towards what something that Corey Corey Barker said uh in an interview, an uh anthology series of just one wish willows. Uh and give me like three seasons of like seven episodes or ten episode seasons, and just um with the same touch that was on obsession, and give me uh an anthology series of of just one wish willows going absolutely wrong or going great. Just let me have that series, uh put that money towards that.

SPEAKER_05 52:33

Yeah. That's yeah. I I I actually uh once that was not teased because I don't think it's actually something that's happening, at least as of right now, uh that that's an idea that super very much excites me. And I think that would be really cool. Um my my second one. Uh I said, I would rather give the 165 million dollars straight to Gavin J. Kanop and give racist Spider-Man another stab at it.

SPEAKER_04 53:07

I would rather sit through some shit like that than this fucking movie.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

Oh my god, give him another stab at it. Holy shit, dude.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Oh my god, that's a banger.

SPEAKER_04 53:23

Stupid, bro. Holly, man.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

Oh man this movie so much.

SPEAKER_03 53:28

Yep. All right, Brandon. Your second pick of what you did.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

My first one's my most interesting because the next two are kind of whatever. I it'd be giving the 165 million to some dev studio to actually fix the Knights of the Old Republic remake. Oh, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_05 53:43

That's another fire answer, actually. Because I'm I've been waiting on that because I never played Knights of the Old Republic though.

SPEAKER_06 53:50

I we'll see if it happens, dude.

SPEAKER_05 53:52

I know. Like, dude, every Star Wars game right now, almost other than like the Jedi games, because we don't know about them, but like the uh what's the one that uh oh well fate fate just got announced. I'm I'm excited for that one too, but that one's like probably a long time away. But eclipse, the eclipse, the one that yeah, yeah, the the Detroit Become Human Debs are are doing. That one's in development hell too. Like, oh my gosh, man, where where are we at?

SPEAKER_06 54:17

How?

SPEAKER_05 54:17

Like that's the thing, yeah. Dude, they announced that like 2020, 2021, and like there's oh my gosh. Same. I mean, same with the uh Knights of the Old Republic remake, too. But I don't want to change the gaming podcast.

unknown 54:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Oh I mean, I do, but yeah, bro. We need a yeah, we need an episode with just y'all two, just going gaming just repeat whatever kind of funny says for the week and see how that's truthfully, yeah. Uh my second pick is uh this is kind of a dumb one. Um I'd give the 165 million dollars to Bum House Productions uh in our fantasy box office draft so that I can fucking come closer to being in first place and uh cover my bomb pick. So uh cover masters of the universe. So yeah, I'd rather give that movie to me.

SPEAKER_05 55:09

Bro, bro, would rather take handouts. I like it. I respect it though. I respect it. Um, my last one.

SPEAKER_04 55:19

This one's dumb.

SPEAKER_05 55:21

Uh I I said, I would rather spend 165 million dollars on an elaborate torture chamber with multiple torture devices that progressively get worse the deeper into the chamber you go, and by the end of it, it would have told a better story of my fucking pain and suffering than the story of this fucking movie.

SPEAKER_07 55:44

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_04 55:47

That's so fucking stupid. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 55:56

Oh, I love it. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

Yeah, that's awesome. Oh my god. Brandon, your third and final pick of what you would rather spend 165 million.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

Well, I only have two left. It was either that I keep the money for my pain and suffering because I feel like that's her or give it to Damian Chazelle to get out of director jail and let him in what he wants.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Yes, I love it. Oh, I love it. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 56:22

Wait, are you a are you a Babylon lover too? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

Well, so here's the thing. I I will watch it one day. I just I Wall O Land is my one of my favorite movies of all time, and same thing with Whip Flash. And I just if it if I don't like it, it's gonna bother me. So I need to be like in the right hand space, and I've just never been there to to watch it. Because Gazelle is like somebody who I hope can come back and you know score another Oscar.

SPEAKER_01 56:49

Oh, you're telling me. With my third and final pick on what I would rather spend $165 million on. Um, I would give it to the staff of the boys to use anything other than AI to come up with a better way to write the final seasons. I always made an AI joke about this movie.

SPEAKER_04 57:12

I was made an AI joke about this movie.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Uh tear down the data center that's uh near the the boys production studio so that we can get something better than that. All right. Well, on that topic, um man, there's our our review of Mandalorian and Grogu. Um let us know what y'all thought. Yeah, in the comments below. We'll get Ben's thoughts next week. Uh what a fun review. This is one of the this is one of the like some of the most fun I've had reviewing a horrible movie. I think um Trap or was it Trap? Um the Yeah, what was that movie?

SPEAKER_05 57:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:48

Uh I think it was Trap. I think it was Trap Blinking on the standards. I think it was Trap. Yes, yes. That was probably uh that's up there with some of the most fun I've had reviewing a movie. Just because um, gosh, that was that was just uh a hilarious movie. Stupid. Um what can I say? I love bad movies. Oh, yeah, 100%. Oh, I'd watch 165 million traps. Um so yes, uh thank you, Brandon, for joining. Unfortunately, you won't get to the boys. Thank you, Brandon. Yeah, well, it's been a fun episode. Uh, dad duty calls. So thank you for joining. Thank you for for stopping by. Um and for everyone else, we will get into our discussion of the boys. So, Brandon, we will see you.

SPEAKER_00 58:34

Yeah, I'll see you guys for part of the draft, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:36

Yes, sir. Yeah, there we go. I'll see you, man. Thank you for joining. Bye bye. Alrighty, the boys finale. What a what a what a fun episode this has been. I think just because I want to try to extend the reach of um of people watching our box office mando and the boys and our draft and whatnot. I might have to just cut the attack on Titan and like post that separately because I do think that's a great discussion. Yeah, but like post-I actually think that's a good idea. That might get a lot a lot more clicks that way if it's just and this has been a phenomenal episode so far. Like, holy shit, this has been great. I agree. Um, I got to talk about attack on Titan, and then we just had to have one of the most fun reviews ever. I'm gonna be real upset if Ben did hate it and he could have joined in on all of this and just like sure just coding it because he missed out, but it is what it is. Um, all right, for our last and final topic, the boys season, the boys season five finale, uh the finale of the entire series. Series, yeah. Series finale is finally upon us, yes. Um the boy series finale dropped last week, um, and we get to talk about it in all of its glory or all of its horror, and uh, we will give our reviews for the finale of it right now in three, two, one. It's funny. I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

Well, you said the AI thing, and I was the whole time I was like, oh shit, do you not like because I actually I think the finale was fucking great.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

Yeah, yeah. I I had a I had a really good time with it. I it's it's again, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer. It's unfortunate that the build-up to this finale is the way it was, but I I had a good time with this man. Like I was I was really sad. Uh everything that we got to see play out towards the end, and uh everything with Homelander's hilarious. I had a good time with this. I I had a really good time with this finale. Um I'm a I'm a fan of it. Um, I I and I know Ben's big sentiment because this is kind of how I felt with Stranger Things. The build-up to the finale is unfortunate, but the finale itself and the goodbye that we get to the to say to the show that we grew up with, Stranger Things, uh, a lot more, but also the boys, because I I've texted you this before, but like I remember my dad coming in my room being like, Have you seen this new show on Amazon? Like called The Boys. It's it's freaking crazy. The first episode is wild, and I just remember watching it being like, Man, this is awesome. Um, so I I got to be there for this show in its entirety, which is um is not common um nowadays with how long the people like to drag these shows out. So it was it was a bitter goodbye. And I know I know Ben, this is where I was going with this. I know Ben's sentiment with a lot of this is it doesn't matter what the finale is, the buildup wasn't there, it doesn't feel warranted. And I can see that that sentiment. I can I can see where he would be with that. I've always been um of the camp of hey, this is bad, but this is our goodbye. Like this is we get to say goodbye to the show. This is the no matter how we felt about this season, this is also the goodbye to the season one and two and three, and which I feel like that was similar to your sentiments of of Stranger Things, right? Like yeah, and like the the showrunners know this, they know that they are also saying goodbye to the great discussion that was uh around the earlier seasons of said shows um for Stranger Things, even the season before. So the showrunners know that, and and I think they they take that into account. They're not dumb no matter what we we say about AI writing the show for them, but I I've always been able to look past what the buildup looks like. So with that being said, yes, I'm a big fan of this finale. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:36

I think I think they dotted their I's and crossed their T's very, very well uh for longtime fans of the show. Uh like of course I have complaints that kind of span almost to uh exactly what Eric Kryptiki Kripke talked about in an interview, I think a couple weeks back, is that with with serious finales, people go back and retroactively judge the whole show. And maybe there that's a little bit true for me. Um i.e., without spoiling stuff from this episode quite yet, uh i.e. Homelander not ever really doing anything super crazy, like never going uh uh full loose cannon or anything like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:12

But um besides things like that, I just think that like I think of all the characters, I think Butcher got a good ending, I think Huey got a good ending, Annie got a good ending, MM got a great ending. Um even Ryan uh as as someone we were like, dude, where where has he been? Like other than early on in this season. I think everything that happened, I think was was was really, really well done. And I think I it's rare that I feel as wholly satisfied as I did watching this as a like when it comes to series finales in general. Even something like Chuck. Like I granted I was young when that ended, I I was like 11 years old when that ended. So I wasn't like I wasn't really judging that in in the same way that I judge something now. But I think to even back then I didn't I didn't feel uh a sense of satisfaction, a great sense of satisfaction that I felt here with this. And even though I liked Stranger Things, the the the latter half of the episode, and I I I I I believe I remember saying that on in our review of it, that I I remember liking the uh the send-off. Uh that whole first half of that episode really kind of soured it for me. Whereas this, I feel like the entire episode is is is is good uh and leading us towards a great path of sending saying goodbye, I guess. Yeah, yeah. So overall, I think uh as for Ben's sentiments with um uh it not being able to make up for the whole season, like of course, yeah, I I I agree with that as well. And I mean uh pointing to something so specific as like V1 what a MacGuffin that literally had nothing to do with anything, like it just it did not matter, like whatsoever. It did there, it it played no larger when he got it, it he was the exact same, you know? And so uh I don't know. There's stuff like that that are glaring problems, absolutely, but I think and I said this a couple weeks back, like if Homelander wins, like that this show is is a wash for me. Like that's that's which it maybe in saying that I I realize now that it it probably sounds like oh I really I always want the happy ending. Not exactly the case. I'm I would have been fine with Homelander winning just if he had faced some sort of comeuppance. I feel I feel like throughout the entire show, he hadn't faced his comeuppance oh my gosh, his comeuppance yet. So I will in in any way, shape, or form. And so I needed to see that, whether it was his death or something. And so um I think I don't know, it was it was great. I I do wish they could have done a little bit more, like the the fight still. Scene itself uh probably wasn't that flashy or great, like it's just in the the the oval office, and there's not much moving around, which I mean Amazon is a multi-billion dollar company. They definitely could have paid for uh for it to be uh uh of a higher scale, but they just chose not to. Same same story with like Invincible and the animation there. But overall, uh there the the complaints I have are very minimal compared to uh how good slash great I think this this series finale was. I don't think there's a lot of people saying it's on the level of Stranger Things or Game of Thrones. No, that's just I know you don't have reference for Game of Thrones, but that's just no, it's just not the case.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

Yeah, yeah. Uh there's tons of things that I would have changed about this season as a whole. There's there's a lot of things I would have changed about the build-up to to get to where we're at. Um it's I don't know. I the V1 stuff really, really bothers me quite a bit, uh looking back. But but yeah, like I said, I mean to to see Billy finally get his revenge, to see them finally bring this man to his knees. Um, and I thought it thought it was good how just before this Homelander was just talking about how pathetic the deep was. And and then we get to see him in that light. Um yeah, like there there there is there's a lot of really good things here, and I think the pacing was really well too. Looking at the episode and seeing that Homelander was dead and there were still 30 minutes left. I was like, oh gosh, what's what's gonna happen, dude? What what is this what does this mean for us? Um so I I had a really good time with it. Yeah, I mean, everything bad that I have to say about the finale really just has to do with the buildup and and season five as a whole and the final season of the show as a whole. But um, yeah, I don't I don't know. I think they landed the plane. I'm a I'm a big fan of it. I'm a fan of how everything went down. It's it's really just the uh everything before and and the season, the season, the seasons actually, four and five leading up to the finale that that really just sour me. But you know, yeah, it was nice to say goodbye.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:17

It was nice to say goodbye in the way that we did. It was, it really was. I like I I I I cried, I cried in uh during during parts of this episode, specifically like with the butcher stuff, and like, ah man, that's you really are the spin the line. Ah, it's good stuff, man. Good stuff. But uh, I was just gonna say that you know it's funny, like we regard season three as the best season of the show, but that season had the worst finale, I think, of the entire show. That's that like season season four and five, like we don't like as much, but like the finales of both of these seasons, great, like really great stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

Yeah, so I think season four season season four's finale is so good. But I remember watching like I came here, I visited here from from home uh to watch the finale of season three, and I was like, oh man, I uh that that didn't leave me as as satisfied as I wanted it to.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:13

Well, I remember when we were talking about it way back years ago, like I remember your sentiments of of like it just feels like we're we're treading ground like the same ground, like Homelander gets away again, and like and yada yada yada. Like, what what was this all for? And like that was just so glaring in that season.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

So yeah, yeah, yeah. That is that is a funny dynamic that um because I think season two's finale is really freaking everything in the woods where they just like threaten to expose his flight video, and then obviously seasons one, four, and five, like there's some really good finale. Then they know how to land a freaking plane. Um but season three when they had the strongest build-up, like that hero gasm episode is it's kind of uh it's interesting. I'll have to pull it, I'll have to look back. It's it's a funny coincidence that Ben couldn't be on this episode because I want to compare and contrast me and you talking about the Hero Gasm episode and how over the moon we were, and then cut to like this saying goodbye to the show, and it's just me and you again. Um but yeah, I mean, yeah, that I don't know. There's there's something to be said uh on um characters and how we how we feel about the uh the ending that everyone had, especially in a season where it felt like that was kind of impossible at points. Um and how satisfying it felt. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm very pleased with this. I'm very happy with with how this turned out. Me too.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:38

Uh diving into spoilers a little bit, uh, for those who care. Uh I love, I love, I love this for French he just starts beating the fucking shit out of me. And then the last, like, of course, he has to say this too. And like, if he hadn't said this, it would have it would have been soured a bit for me. And this is for me, Becca. And then he just slams me, or my Becca, I think he says, not me, but yeah, uh, and then just crowbarring his fucking skull open is crazy, bro. I love that so much.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

I I love the facial acting of all of the boys too, when they walk in and they just see it, and Billy like he just turns and looks at them, and they're just like, Oh my god, like it's it's finally it's done, it's finally here. And uh like they just like they start to smile a little bit, like they start to tear up too. It's so nice, man. Good shit, bro. It's good shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:35

Uh little highlight for me. I love I love uh Huey doing doing his uh doing butcher's accent to oh dude, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:44

Oi, that was just fucking diabolical. It's it's so it's so funny too because um it it felt like a finale moment. Like, yeah, oh let's throw this in here. This is fun, like just you know, Huey and doing his best uh butcher um imitation. Uh it works so well. Because at the first time I just like oi, and I was like, I was like, oh shit, okay, like Billy's kind of messing with O Father here, and then for a split second, I was like, oh no way, and it cuts and we see um butcher. I think uh this might be a hot take. I think we possibly got maybe our best meme from this episode of the boys. No, with uh the deep walking in and oh father looking and then just putting his head down and Homelander glancing and and just like signing. Have you seen that one?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:36

I don't think I have, no. Um I mean obviously I watched it when I was watching the show, but no, I haven't seen it in the meme.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:42

The way the way the the GIF plays off is is so hilarious. Um but yeah, I I also shout out to David Diggs, man. I I think he was such an awesome uh and awesome invention to this.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:58

All season, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:00

Uh it's like it's a testament to come into like the final season as a brand new character and like and and and and really stamp.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:07

Yeah, yeah, like feeling like warranted to feeling like your your addition is warranted.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:14

Like in he feels like he's belonged the whole time, like it's not it doesn't feel like out of place or anything like that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:22

Ned, yeah, Ned knew this is gonna be a banger. He's like, dude, it's freaking rich.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:32

I love it. It's rich.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:34

Um Butcher's Butcher's Death, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously. Uh Butcher's Death. I can't I can't give that scene enough praise, man. I think it that one felt like it went back to the the what was great about season three, like that whole flashback episode with with Butcher. Um, like when they want to get emotional, they can get emotional. Eric, Eric Kripke and the writers. And I think this was good stuff. Yeah, Butcher consoling Huey, like because he I mean, he he's telling the truth at the same time. Like, you did the right thing, Huey. Like, I wasn't gonna stop. Like, you needed to do this, and so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

Um for for for a second, I was really I was like, no way, Huey just like accidentally shot him whenever Billy was in the middle of like reconsidering, but then like before Butcher even said anything, I was like, uh it's probably just how this is just how it has to go, though. You know, like if I'm Butcher, and I saw a lot of people talking about this, also terror dying in that moment. I feel like was a little like out of the blue. I I know that they kind of talked about like his him getting old before that, but yeah, um, I I wish that that moment didn't feel like Ryan just dissed me. I turn around, now my dog just died out of nowhere. Oh my gosh, everything's out. I wish that was built up a little bit more, but that's beside the point. Hit I saw a lot of people complaining about like his just sudden twit, like, oh, he just he wants to kill all the soups now. But you see them all having so much fun, drinking, laughing, telling stories, and then a butcher like kind of sits there and realizes like I really have nothing no more. Like, my entire goal was to take out Homelander and to avenge my dead wife, and um, you know, uh try my best to save the world from Homelander. And he's like, now that that's done, you know, what what do I really have? So for for Huey, for him to tell Huey it was I was gonna do it no matter what. You did the right thing. Like this is this is where it has to go. Because one, I have nothing, and two, I know I know in my heart doing this that um it is the wrong thing to do, and it does nothing but just try to satisfy that that emptiness inside of me. And I I also think there's something to be said about the fact that he did wait and Huey called him out on that and he tried to pivot. I do think he waited for that reason. You know, he uh as soon as Huey shows up, I think he kind of knows like okay, Huey's here, I know what needs to be done, and I'll fight him for it. I still want to accomplish this goal, but uh he cares more about Huey, obviously, than he does about accomplishing that goal, and that was shown in that moment. So there's there's something to be said about how how like how that just pulls at your heartstrings for for Butcher's character. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:33

I love I love MM getting back with uh I forget her name, his his ex-wife's name.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:41

But I love Ryan also like being MM adopting Ryan and taking Ryan into his family. I think that's great, I think that's perfect. Uh yeah, I even love just Ryan telling Butcher off because I think that that's the right choice for Ryan's characters too. Like, I didn't choose you over my dad, like you're also a terrible person. Um, because he's right, and I just banger stuff, bro. Banger stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:06

Yeah, I I I love that moment coming full circle of just I want you to do something for me. I want you to take Ryan if all of this goes south. And Mm's like, why? He's like, because you're the best father that I've ever known, you're the best person that I've ever known, and that really hitting MM right there, and then you know, at the end scene that which I thought was pretty cool. I know that Ryan's deep, but I think it would it would have been a really cool thing to show like what happens now. Like, I saw somebody tweet this. The boys universe with Ryan under MM could have their first Superman, like they could have their first, like genuinely good superhero and Superman. Um, I know he's de-powered, but I think that that would have been a really cool like thing to leave off on, like this symbol of hope now that VOD's taken down or Homelander at that. Um but now that the evil is seemingly rid of the world, um yeah, for Ryan to kind of be humanity's next hope for uh what soups could really be, especially because that would make uh Huey's decision to kill Butcher that much more impactful. Because, like, yeah, Butcher has no hope for any of that, but it's like look at Ryan, you know, there's there's your hope right there that that uh soups can be good and can do good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:28

I actually I I still wonder why he's depowered, like because I thought he was the first natural-born soup. Obviously, like that's still because of V, but I would figure that instead of the V like causing his DNA to change, his DNA would have just been innately changed because of the V in Homelander's body. But I mean, I don't know. I don't want to get into the the nitty-gritty of that too much, but um yeah, yeah, man, and then even like the little moment with uh Kimiko uh seeing Frenchie. I've seen some people complain about that scene because like you you just stop everything in in the middle of a tense situation to have her have that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:09

But I think that's oh no, I love that scene, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:11

Yeah, I think that was necessary for her. I think that that was yeah, I think that was good.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:16

Well, especially him saying like she's like, I can't I can't feel I can't work up the rage to make this work. Yeah, and because all I've can say. Yeah, and he's like that rage has never been you. Like, you know, um, essentially take these other feelings um and put them to use. I thought that was really good. I like that scene a lot. I think it was really sweet, and I think it's uh I don't know. I I like how I like the concept, and again, this goes back to um Eric Kriptee maybe saying, Um, because I don't know how true this is. I know you and Ben, maybe it was Ben, brought this up um a couple episodes ago. Knowing the where he wanted to end things, but not so much how to get there. It really feels apparent because I do like the direction that we go. I do like Kimiko powering down Homelander after he takes the uh the it was the V1, right? Um after he takes the V1 um to become immortal to begin to do scorched earth, and they have to stop him from that. And so they track him down in the Oval Office and they do that. Like I love the direction that we took it up to going uh up to the finale. It's just how we got there, you know. Man, I I want a universe to see what what an uh a really good paid-off buildup looks like in this show. Um, but yeah, I I think the moment was was cool. There's there's maybe a lot to be said here that I can't really think of off the top of my head of Homelander's excitement of seeing Butcher. And I know someone played it as a joke and was like, man, his eyes lit up that Butcher was there um on his big day, and like they were like joking about it. But I people were were genuinely like, man, that was his only constant in his life, and it was the only man that didn't fear him when when he stood in front of him, it was the only person that really challenged him when it came to everything. Um, and so his face lighting up in that moment, like people I said Homelander genuinely doesn't care about anybody except for Noir and uh Black Noir in seasons one, two, and three and butcher. And I I think that's true, and I do think there's a lot to be said there about that moment and how Homelander feels about Billy. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:39

Um, there's some like power scaling issues uh that people have problems with, and that I can I can understand, I guess, in a similar vein to how Invincible has these problems, but like we watch Homelander what is it last episode? Yeah, last episode speed blitz uh Frenchie, essentially, just Frenchie taps on the wall and he's there in two second not less than that, a nanosecond. And in the very first episode of this season, he's keeping up with A-Train. And you expect me to believe he's not fast enough to fly out of that room in just a second before Butcher has a chance to react, Butcher or Ryan has a chance to react, but uh it's whatever. I I that kind of stuff doesn't bother me too much um to get to this ultimate end goal. So yeah, I'm willing to excuse that.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:38

Uh yeah, it's whatever. I I'm playing fast and loose with this finale. Um you just kind of you kind of have to if you want to, you know. I oh I know that like me even saying this would trigger Ben, but you know, it's just like you just you have to, you know, it's fast and loose. That's what this entire season has been. Um, and if you truly want to just enjoy the goodbye, then enjoy the goodbye, you know. Yeah um however you feel about the show or the at least this season as a whole, but yeah, I don't know. Uh big fan, man. I I enjoyed it. I enjoyed my time with this finale. You know, what can I say?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:20

Now, big question for you, because you did not watch Gen V. Are you gonna watch Vaught Rising? Huh? Yeah, I'm gonna watch Vaught Rising.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:30

Hey, I I told you, I told you, man. I'm like, I think that that trailer looks good. Like, I'm yeah, I'm interested in a in a prequel boys universe um revolving around a stormfront and soldier boy. Like, yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that. I I wouldn't be mad at that. Um, I think now that the show's over, especially, um, but in the middle of the show, you know, detouring to Gen V and then having season four and then detouring again to Gen V season two. I just I wanted my boy's universe, I wanted this story and just this story and how it wraps up. Um, but I I'm super interested in the character of Marie. Like, I think that would be really cool. And uh, I hate that they canceled Gen V because um I would not be opposed now that the show's over to a season three and seeing where they take the character of Marie and um even characters like Kate and the the dude the that Jordan I forget his name talks to the puppets.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:32

Oh is that his name or Jordan the no Jordan Jordan's the shapeshifter uh or the gender bender. I think that's what they I think that's nice the super name in the in season two. I for I forget that guy Adam? I don't remember the guy who sees puppets. I don't remember his name.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:50

But uh yeah, there's a lot of cool characters, and um, you know, just after seeing them in season five, I wouldn't be opposed to some more of them. Um I did see a lot of people saying, like, it sucks that Ryan uh again on top on the topic of the Ryan being the first Superman in the universe. A lot of people were saying that, oh yeah, I thought this is where they were gonna take the Gen V characters, like maybe a boys' universe where there are actual superheroes now that um everything has gone down the way it has. And people were like, I thought this is why they introduced Gen V so that we could see them and Ryan like uh a new wave of superheroes that actually want to do good. And he's uh they were like, but then they just canceled the fucking show. So um yeah, I I'd I'd be super down for that. Um if if Gen V was still coming out, but yeah, I will check out Vaught Rising. I am interested in what that looks like.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:45

Yeah, I think it could be cool. I'm I'm looking forward to it as well. 2027. They're keeping up with their cadence of uh every year. The boys something drops.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:55

So I I wonder how many boys uh staff is is involved with Vault Rising. I'd be interested to take a look at that.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:06

I just saw something recently that Eric Kripke said he's not gonna be a showrunner anymore on the other stuff, so but he still is gonna be there for like oversight stuff of overseeing certain things. So I don't know. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:21

Yeah, um cool. There's our our the boys series finale. What a um what a fun time. I'd be interested. I I'm I'm really I'm gonna sh tell Ben to watch this episode because uh I think he absolutely needs to before next week. But um thank you everybody for watching. I'll I'm gonna do some editing. I think we got a good little setup of posting this and then dropping Attack on Titan uh later because that Attack on Titan episode was uh about an hour and a half. So that in and of itself is a podcast episode of its own. Yeah, um and I didn't go.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:02

Yeah, yeah. Um what's also funny is while we were recording, Mimish dropped his comments for the week. So the only comment we had before that was was Brandon, but Brandon was on the episode, so I just jumped straight to it. But Mimish dropped some comments. So uh we'll be sure next week, uh, whenever Charlie's hosting, Charlie can go back and group them all up because I'm sure he's gonna have a lot to say on the uh attack on Titan. But I want him to hear his comments at the top of the episode. So um, but yes, thank y'all, everybody, um, for watching and listening to us talk about some box office, Mando Grogu, all the the fun, nerdy stuff. If you want to wonder what we're talking about when it comes to the attack on Titan stuff, that will be an episode that we'll be dropping in a couple days. If you're watching this as it releases, releases, uh, that will be episode 141. So I'll get all that fun stuff figured out. We went early today, so I got the time to figure it all out. So um be on lookout for next week's episode. We will hopefully be talking about some backrooms. Uh, are you gonna be watching backrooms?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:05

Yeah, I think I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:07

I think so. Cool. Um, if you have the time, oh fuck my shorts. If you have the time, I would recommend watching some of the YouTube videos. I think they're pretty cool. I as mentioned earlier, I've been watching them.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:18

Is it like or what is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:20

Well, so it's like a it's like a YouTube series, and um I'll show you real quick. Um and granted, chat. If y'all are listening to this and you want to correct me, please feel free. But uh, it's like a YouTube series that he did. Um, and I'll share my screen. Because this is odd, but it's uh it's a little like YouTube series that he did. And if you look here, like the time, like the videos vary. Like we got nine minutes, and then some that are three minutes and under eight, four minutes, six minutes, 34 seconds, eight minutes. But it's uh yeah, 22. The longest one's 45 minutes here, but 22 episodes of just like his backroom stuff, and I'm under the impression of he did this, and then there was like a ton of lore that um that was like supposedly there. So there's like lore breakdown videos that are like hour, five hours long of like what it all means. Like he just created all this stuff, all of it in blender, most of like I think like 90% of it, all in Blender. And uh there's like a ton of lore behind all of it. So um I'm watching it. I'm probably gonna watch a lore video just before the the movie. I just think it'll probably enhance my viewing. So sure. I'd then yeah, if you had some time, I don't know. I've been watching it probably will throw on the playlist, and I'll just let it autoplay while I'm on the treadmill. It's been pretty cool. So um, but yeah, we'll be talking about backrooms next week. Um, our shows are done. We'll get into Spider Noir. So that'll be pretty cool. Spider Noir. And it all comes out at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:05

Okay, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:05

I believe so. I believe so. If I'm if I'm corrected, I'm corrected. But backrooms, spider noir. Um, yeah, I think we have a good setup going. So we will see y'all next week for all of that. Then we'll be back. Let us know in the comments uh if you want anything read out loud, and now's your opportunity. So, with all that being said, we will see you guys in the next one.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:28

Peace.