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Matthew Hammond, Austin Craft, Chris Shirah, Brandon Duncan, Noah Turner Season 1 Episode 268

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We trade playoff pain for dynasty profit, breaking down which players to buy low and who to sell high before rookie drafts hit. We challenge assumptions on crowded rooms, shaky backfields, and veteran values to build smarter, tougher rosters.

• betting lessons from a volatile season and why we scale back late
• chicago’s offensive rise and why Luther Burden is mispriced
• odunze as a hold versus Burden as the target
• the Brees Hall dilemma and uncertainty as an edge
• woody Marks as an opportunity mirage and sell window
• Packers receiver archetypes and Matthew Golden at the right price
• Drake London as a premium sell high given team dynamics
• Chargers as bounce-back buys with a healthy line
• tight end windows with Kyle Pitts, Kincaid, and Laporta pivots
• Brian Thomas Jr. as a ceiling buy low in an improving offense
• Terry McLaurin as veteran value with stable volume
• deep dart throws, third-round RB shots, and portfolio thinking

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Playoffs, Bad Beats, And Betting Lessons

SPEAKER_01

Man, welcome back to the fake stuff podcast. We are back at it again, talking fake football. It's NFL playoff season, which means it's the dead season for the fake stuff, but that don't mean, you know, and then Dynasty Streets shit's moving. I've seen some big trades go down already. What's going on, Kraftman?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, nothing much. I just got finished watching that Bills game. I uh wore my Kincaid jersey. It seems like every time I wear or cheer for a team, they seem to lose because I was going for the Jags last week. And uh this season, as far as football goes, none of the teams that I want to win are actually still in the damn thing right now.

SPEAKER_01

Hey man, the NFL, bro, is impossible to gamble on right now. Impossible. I cannot stress it enough. It's the second year in a row where I faded a back half of the year, and I think I've learned a lesson. Like next year, I'm gonna hit it hard the first half of the year, and then when I know week week 11 and all that starts rolling around, I'm gonna just stop, stop betting so much. You know what I'm saying? Because it's impossible. I can't guess the script, man. Pissing me off.

SPEAKER_02

That might be a problem. You're trying to guess the script. I've actually done better on the back half than I did the the front. Well, I had a good front half and then had a terrible middle, and now I'm starting to kind of get back into the groove with prop bets anyway. In that market, but Brad, we hadn't even mentioned you down there at the bottom. I was staying pretty quiet. I was staying pretty quiet down here. Ready to toss the football.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, man. I am. I am. Well, shoot, man. Uh we was hoping we was gonna get the bubble blower on with us tonight, but it don't look like he's gonna make it. So it's it's me, the craft man, it's big dog Brad. We're gonna talk buy lows, sell highs from uh mainly a dynasty perspective. Brad's mainly a redraft guy, but it don't matter. We bring him into this dynasty streets anyways. Uh uh, but uh anyways, we are gonna pretty much talk about uh if the if you think that player's gonna be good next year, you know what I'm saying? So it kind of applies to redraft anyways, you know what I'm saying? If you know what I'm saying, you gotta be a real nerd to know what I mean. Like, you know what I mean, Kraft Man?

SPEAKER_02

If you if you're talking about redraft in January, then yes, it does take it does take some pretty big pretty big nerds to fill in, but I just I really want to know how your fantasy season went, Matt. I didn't even we hadn't had you on the last uh that last episode with how everything went in the playoffs and everything.

SPEAKER_01

Well mine I just flamed out at all. I had a good regular season. I'm talking about everything went according to plan. The league I was tanking in, I was tanking. The leagues I was winning, I was winning. Then the playoffs came around, and I don't even think I won one playoff match. I think I had a couple in the first like me and Kraft, I had some bad luck. Like I was me and the bubble blower lost to the Kraft man after scoring a ton of points, so I lost in that league. And then me and Kraft, we lost. Yeah, that guy right there. Man, lost a I'm just gonna be real, that's the one that hurts the most, bro, is average Joe's, bro. I cannot get over the fucking hump, bro. That shit pisses me the fuck off, Brad. I cannot, dude. I I'm gonna be real. Out of all the leagues that just hurt the most right now, that one just is in my soul, just just blowing at me, bro.

SPEAKER_02

It's bad. It's bad that see, I would I didn't I didn't have any pressure because my team sucked so bad all year. I was like, this is just a year that I just don't even play.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

Season Recaps And League War Stories

SPEAKER_02

So it didn't even matter. And I just I just watching y'all like going, oh. Well, you degenerate I am. I'm like, let me bet. Oh, I bet Austin beats. Oh, I bet he beats this guy. Let's put some money on. I know you, I know you're cheering for me, Brad. But you did you do you won the two championships last year. We always said you you live by the Ricky Bobby of fantasy football. I do, I do. I've seen you, I've seen you down way down there in the dumps with lasting points, lasting everything, and then the next year you're you gotta clog your way back up. You gotta, you know, when you're down that far, you just you gotta climb back up. But you know, it's like anything's better than last year. But the crazy thing is with Brad. Brad, have you lost a championship that you've been in? Never lost ever do something like that.

SPEAKER_01

That is crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02

He's won about five of them in total or something like that, and hasn't lost a single a single one. So that I kind of feel like that's a little crazy. And Noah, Noah, on the other hand, he makes it every single year. He's been in the championship and average those four years straight. I mean, that's a that's a tall task to even to even mate right there, but he's only won one of them. So we're gonna change his name to Packers. Yeah. Probably so. That makes sense. Yeah, it does. He would lose before that, though. He would lose in the first round of the playoffs. Yeah, we wouldn't even get there. Yeah, wouldn't get there. But I do I gotta ask this though before we get started, too. Anything y'all changing about about y'all drafts next year? Any uh like um uh how y'all going about it next year? Any changes?

SPEAKER_01

Well, look, specific to this specific to the league I play in, average Joes. I just know for sure I want to try to go running back first and then let it fly after that. You know what I'm saying? I want to get that good running back because I know they're gonna fly off. But everybody in that league likes to go running back, so that would be if I could go like this year, that's why I'm saying, man, I Brad, I just can't stress to you enough. That's why I'm saying it hurts so bad, because uh I drafted and I went Saquon, but then I yeah, but then I made that trade from a capture, yeah. And then I I just felt like I was getting good value, and I was hitting some of those picks, like Scattaboo and So it's like, man, dude, I don't know if I can nail a draft like that, bro.

SPEAKER_02

You had a good team, man. You had a healthy team, too. That's the that's the main thing. Well he didn't have a that's what he was saying was Scataboo and Tucker Kraft. Like he he hit the draft, but but who else did you lose this year?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, by by the end, I had to start like three pickup players like AD Mitchell and but that was kind of like on average for like everybody that played this year. Right, you know it was like I mean I I just went through I went through everybody to yeah, you know, Bucky, and then um who else do I have in that lineup?

SPEAKER_02

Um Marion Hampton. Yeah. You know, that's like uh well there's two two running backs good, and then the only one of the other ones was good. Um it's it's a gamble though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is, man. I love it. That's why we do it all. That's why if you listen to the face of podcast, we gamble, we do dynasty, we do redraft, we talk a little best ball. We really talk it all, man. Anything fantasy football-wise, like we're those junkies, those nerds that we do it all. And this is gonna be our best offseason yet. We got a lot of uh stuff coming down the pipe. We got a lot of these type of episodes, we got some other type of episodes we're gonna be dropping. Um, but one thing that we say around here is don't be a hoe. Share the show. I mean, that's the best way to grow the show, man. Help us get some YouTube subscribers up. Like I know most of our people are all on the audio, and heck, we are too, you know. I don't listen, I don't even get on YouTube. I get on, you know, Apple Podcasts, you know what I'm saying? Y'all are on you're on Spotify, right, Crap Man? I know a lot of people are on Spotify, so but you know, help us slide over and get that YouTube uh thing growing a little bit, help us out a little bit, but you know, other than that, Crap Man, uh, am I missing anything?

SPEAKER_02

No, I think you're good. Brad, we we all cover the bases. Your Apple Podcasts, I'm Spotify, Brad's YouTube, he don't use anything else but YouTube, so I think we got we got it all covered there. We got it all covered, yeah. Yeah, we got it all covered. Surrounded.

Draft Strategy Changes For Next Year

SPEAKER_01

That yeah, all right, shoot, that's what's up, then. Alright, so yeah, but everybody just, you know, that's just the best way for us to grow. We're not we don't have a big presence on social media. I try to do my best and stuff, but you know, share the show. And we some nerds who like to talk all this stuff. That you know, dynasty never dies. It's uh we right in the heart of it. This trade's going down right now, so but tonight, buy lows, sell highs. Um craft man, I mean, do you want to go ahead and get it started?

SPEAKER_02

Or yeah, I can go ahead and get it started. Uh, I'm gonna start off with a with a buy low. Um he might not even be that low. I ain't starting it off like this dude was down at the dumps, he sucked, but a guy that I'm looking to trade for, Luther Burden with Chicago. Like he might not be low, he might be high on some people's list, but this is a guy I actually think is going to be, he might even be a superstar in the league. I I mean he just looked great to me. I think DJ Moore's fading out a little bit. Colson Loveland, Ronald Doom's had Luther Burden, it kind of seems like it's a three-headed monster over there for the future. So Caleb Williams is playing a lot better. And I don't like to say that, but yeah. I think Luther Burden could be very good in the future. Yeah. I can see that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean Brad, do you want to input, input?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I I can see that. That uh that Luther Burden, I mean, you're right. I mean, because like uh the Bears are getting better, I mean, offensively. We hate to say that because we're Packers fans. But they just seem to be clicking right now, and then I think he is taking over that that spot where he's gonna be pretty valuable next year. Uh Matt, where are you at with Letha Burden? I know before the season you said he was gonna take over for DJ Moore, and we were like, nah, that that ain't happening. DJ Moore's the best on the team, and seems like DJ Moore ended up being the worst fantasy pick out of all of them. He wasn't bad. Yeah, I mean, you got over the one win.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, uh, look, I was, you know, before the season, I was real high on buying low on Roma Dunze. And I just think you saw the offense take a step, and I think next year you'll probably see it take another step. And Luther Burden is definitely gonna get more snaps and you know, it's fits with his game. Like, I don't know what they're gonna do with DJ Moore. Like, if I was them, I would try to move him if the best I could. But uh yeah, Luther Burton, I just you know, what was he, a second round draft pick?

SPEAKER_02

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He's a beast.

SPEAKER_02

Like I said, he might not even fit into the category of by low, but I I feel like I would pay, I would actually pay up to get him. He was he's my Jahan Dotson from years past. Who ended who ended up not doing shit, but you you win some, you lose some. But um, yeah, Luther Burns mine, Matt. You got you got one? Is it I want I did want to ask if Romadunze was on your list if we're on the Bears, because not a great season.

Housekeeping And Share The Show

SPEAKER_01

My thing is Romadunze was season was pretty good until whatever happened, you know. I it's to me it sounds like he was playing with a broke foot in that back half of the year. So I don't know. I don't know if he would be too much of a by low because like if I had Roma Dunze, I wouldn't sell him for low because I saw him at wide receiver four for like the first four or five weeks of the season. So like I would say these Bears receivers are by lows, but I feel like Luther Berta is more in the category. Like Roman Dunze is more of a hold, in my opinion, to whoever has Romadunze. You know what I'm saying? You'd have to go pay up a little bit. Just thinking, just thinking we even forget about what Roman Dunze did. Another year of the Bears, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson. You gotta think, you know, another year, all those players are gonna be another step better. So I don't know. I guess he could be in the by low situation depending on who the owner is. If I'm the owner, I'm not selling him for low.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, hold on, hold on to Dunze. You don't think that Loveland and and Burden are gonna be like the one two, and he's gonna be relegated because at the start of the season you thought Dunze was gonna be the one. Kind of fall fell off on that a little bit. But don't you think? I think Adunze and uh Josh Downs are comparable. No. No.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think Roma Dunze was the number one, and then he broke his foot and played the back half of the year.

SPEAKER_02

I mean we'll put it at another receiver that plays for the Colts. Roma Dunze or Alec Pierce.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, man, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

I mean Alec Pierce had a good year. Roma Dunze or Matthew Golden. If I told you Roma, if I told you Alec Pierce was a top 24 receiver, did that change your mind? So with Pittman. He didn't really help out much either. I guess that's that whole Daniel Jones situation. I know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what to think about the Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

If Daniel Jones was there, it'd probably be uh a bit of a controversy with some of their receivers. But as of right now, we don't know what that's gonna look like next year.

SPEAKER_01

I will say Luther Burden was uh. Alright. Uh, but yeah, well shoot craft, anything you want to add to the No, I'm good.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm good on Burden. It's uh it's up to you, Matt. I know you got some I know you got some names for this.

SPEAKER_01

I got one that it ain't it ain't really uh that nasty. This one is uh Brees Hall. And uh I don't really know what um No. What you mean? You don't you don't agree? Because this is what I'm thinking. This is what I think about Brees Hall. Um I feel like his name is stanky and nasty right now, because he's with the Jets, but what if he's not with the Jets next year? You know what I'm saying? And then and then what if he is with the Jets? I start thinking, what if he is with the Jets? Is it gonna be that bad? I don't know if it'll be that bad. That team's gonna stank, and all they're gonna be able to do is give the ball to Brees Hall.

SPEAKER_02

So that's what we thought this year. I I mean they use that other running back a little bit too. Yeah, Braylon Allen coming back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he was out most of the year. Okay, but what about what are the chances they're bringing Brees Hall back? They would have they they're not gonna Brees Hall's not gonna sign a multi-year deal with them and they would have to franchise him.

SPEAKER_02

Garrett Wilson did.

Buy Low Case: Luther Burden And Bears WRs

SPEAKER_01

Man, Garrett Wilson's an idiot, bruh. I Brees Hall ain't I'm just being real, bro. Uh I feel like you gotta know that you if if you're Brees Hall, you see the writing on the wall. Like, what's the what how what's the amount of money that it's gonna take to sign Brees Hall to stay with the Jets for four years? It's gonna be a lot. I just don't think they would offer it, and I don't think Brees Hall should even consider taking it. I think he should go. I mean, his value is still high. Like he could go get a nice contract somewhere else, you know what I'm saying? And and probably get a better landing spot. He would have to get franchised.

SPEAKER_02

Who do you think like the Jets, you know, like for their promos and shit, who do they put on the the front page?

SPEAKER_01

It's just gonna have to be Garrett Wilson, bro. And his, I mean, I'm just saying, man. I mean if you're if you're that's how bad the Jets are. I mean, I I mean, I agree. The Brett the Jets are uh they're fucking ass, but it's like what basically this is where you gotta take the gamble. Like if you're playing Dynasty, it's buy low, sell high. If there's contract negotiations, go negotiations going on, you just wanna I feel like you want to try to buy now while it's like oh Brees Hall. I uh I don't want to get Brees Hall with the Jets. Like now's the time to just go ahead and buy low on that stanky asset. And then what if he goes to sign somewhere else? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Well that that's that's true.

SPEAKER_01

And and that's like the risk you're taking. He's still a good talent, he's just with the Jets. You know what I'm saying? Like that you just get stuck. But I'm saying if he is with the Jets and you buy low on him, you still you can't.

SPEAKER_02

And if he goes somewhere else, it's probably a bonus.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I mean I just don't know how good he is. It's a little uh come back. Come on, bro. He's with the Jets. I think he's good. I mean, come on, man. He's good, man. He's good, Crab Man. He's with the Jets, bro. Justin Fields, Tyrod Town. What if he goes away? What if he goes to Kansas City? What if he went to the what if he went to the Cowboys? I mean, you know what I'm saying? Somewhere we can get some work in. I mean, if he went to the Cowboys, we're talking top in Average Jones, he's a top two-round draft pick all of a sudden. Probably.

SPEAKER_02

But we're just living in hypotheticals, though. He could go to Kansas City. What would that make him? A first round pick. I get it. I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01

Where it could go to the damn, you know, Browns or something. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Pick one breaks his leg in practice. He's next man up. The dream comes true. There is a there's a lot of good free agent running backs this year uh coming. Uh, I think Rico Dowd's a free agent, Kenneth Walker, Travis Etienne. Yeah. But don't don't Brees Hall had that uh, he was a was he a first round or second round pick, Matt? Do you remember? Nah, he was a first, I'm pretty sure. That's the plan. They could do the fifth-year option on him. I think it sounds like they probably will.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm just saying, like, why, man? At this point, just why? If you're the Jets, if you're any NFL franchise and you're the state of what the Jets are in, just why would you even bring him back, bro? I mean, it's to sell tickets just is not a good enough argument for me anymore. I'm thinking of that argument. It's just I'm done with it. They brought back the head coach. They brought the head coach.

SPEAKER_02

Did they do anything this year to get better? No at all.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, how long has the bret has Brees Hall been in the league now? I mean, what year are we going into? Is this year five right here? I think for real? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like the Jets are like career quicksand.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It just sucks you in there and won't let you go forever. And then like, then you're then you're already done. They should just roll with Braylon Island. I know you, I know you mentioned uh like Brees, but is Garrett Wilson on your balos?

SPEAKER_01

But listen, he's locked in, he done sign the contract. Like this dude is locked into the Jets, bro. No, no, you don't want to. And the thing is, it's like sometimes it ain't all that bad, but it's like we got now, like, look at this 26th class. We gotta hope that the Jets draft a Mendoza guy, and then we gotta hope he's good. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a lot of stuff we gotta hope for Garrett Wilson. That probably ain't gonna happen. You know what I'm saying? Ain't none of that gonna happen. He's gonna be stuck with I mean, who knows?

SPEAKER_02

Just then the Raiders. The Raiders are the number one pick, right? They should probably draft Mendoza.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I'm saying. Like, there's no hope even now. Year, we're gonna so we gotta do another year of Garrett Wilson being trash, being a wide receiver three on my team. I drafted him in the first round of my rookie drafts, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I need no wide receiver 36 guy down, you know what I'm saying? So he ain't on my bilo list. My my bylaw for Brees Hall. Really, my argument is hopefully he gets out of there this this and he's still a good talent. If you you could get him right now when he's stanky and when that asset is just lowest to the low, that would be a time to get Brees Hall.

SPEAKER_02

Lowest to the low.

SPEAKER_01

So other so now, so when he plays four years for somebody else, and we're looking back and be like, damn, I wish I had a bought him when he was with the Jets when he just PU.

SPEAKER_02

PU. And then you got that Le'Veon Bell.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, he went over there. I'm telling you, man. It's just like it's a death sentence right now. The Jets are the graveyard right now. That's the graveyard.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't Rico Daddle just seem like he fits over there with the Jets? Like they would they would get him in free agency or something? He just looks like he's like a Chris Ivory back in the day. Yeah, that's what he reminds me of. Yeah, yeah, right. Chris Ivory. I forgot about him.

SPEAKER_01

I'm with you. I agree. All right, man. Let's move on to another. Brad, you got any names you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02

Um it's a pat it's a Packers player, I'm sure. Yes. Let's go. I'd put I'd put Matt Matthew uh Matthew Golden. I'd buy low on Matthew Golden. Because I believe, unlike some other people on this panel.

Polarizing Buy Low: Brees Hall Futures

SPEAKER_01

Hey, nah, listen, man. This is the truth. If we're just being objective, like this and how we play dynasty fantasy football, I for sure would buy low on Matthew Golden. My only problem is when I think of real football, when I think of what the Packers are and real football-wise, man, they all the same, dude. They got five Matthew Goldens on the team, bro. There's five Jaden Reeds, five Dubs. They're all the same guy, man. Except for Christian Watson. He ain't the same guy. He's really the man. Okay, but let me tell you, let me uh uh get to where I agree with you, Brad. Uh we were spending what first round rookie picks on Matthew Golden last year. I think Kraftman even uh spent a first to get Matthew Golden. So now if you could go in there and slide, it's just like how it was with Sky Moore with the Chiefs after year one. I would have told you dead facing, I would have looked you dead in the eye and said you should go buy Sky Moore in year two for a second round pick. You know what I'm saying? I'll say the same thing for Matthew Golden. I'd throw a second or two seconds at Matthew Golden, you know what I'm saying? What if he does pan out? He's a first-round draft pick with the Packers, with Jordan Love, with Matt LaFleur, and all I did was give up two second-round picks or a second round pick. Like that's to me, that's easy. But the the only risk is he's like a Sky Moore type, and it just never pans out. But then again, you're just risking some second-round picks. So it's like, that's why he's a by low. So you know what? I agree with Brad. I'm kind of with him on that. Matthew Gordon is a by low. He just has like all five of them. They all trash, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I could have taken Christian Watson. But I wasn't picking him because he's Mr. Glass.

SPEAKER_01

That's true, man.

SPEAKER_02

He can't make it through a whole season. Yeah. And he will let you down.

SPEAKER_01

I'm with you. Maybe he's a by low too, just beware.

SPEAKER_02

And Josh Downs has the biggest helmet of any player on earth. Romeo Dobbs, you mean? No, not Josh. Romeo Dobbs. Yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_01

He sure does.

SPEAKER_02

He even brought Xavion Williams into his group with him. He was like, hey, you want to get on, you want to get on this guardian cap?

SPEAKER_01

Helmet shit. You know uh NFL Blitz? Y'all know what I'm talking about? NFL Blitz when they have big heads.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Y'all can't relate, can you? Are we y'all think about this?

SPEAKER_02

I was thinking of more like space balls. Or or NBA jams.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Shit, man. NFL Blitz. You could if you hit that little code, you might get team big heads and you'd be flying around. You know, you got the Green Bay Packers, team big head. You are unstoppable, you know. On the Nintendo 64.

SPEAKER_02

Man, we've been playing that a little bit, man. It's a pretty shitty game nowadays. Have to play it, Madden. Sweet. It's nostalgic. That stupid N64 controller that you had to have three hands to play. The thumb just slides up.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, what about I know y'all know this game, 98 Club with Brett Favre on the cover. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's a classic right there, man. You can't do nothing. You can't do nothing on that 29 skid and hit hitting B over there on the rock. Oh man. Oh man. Those are classics right there. If anybody made it this far in the episode, they probably just looking at us like we just crazy. But they don't even know, bro. Like I'll I'll throw 100 right now on a game of 98 Club. You know what I'm saying? Come on. Slip Brad.

SPEAKER_02

Slip Brad in Mortal Kombat arcade. You know. Beat anybody. Oh, yeah. I used to be the champion of the arcade, baby.

SPEAKER_01

Man, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Mortal Kombat 2? Oh who you stepping to?

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. Too funny.

SPEAKER_02

Finish him? Yes, I will.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. Man, I'm dead, man. That joint hurts my stomach. I'm laughing so hard, man. Alright, well, true, man. Kraft, though, what's another thing? We done throwing three bilos out there. What about a sale high, man? You got a sale high.

SPEAKER_02

Talk about video games.

SPEAKER_01

Give me a sale high, Kraft, man.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, I got a I got a guy that uh I don't know if you'll agree with Matt, but you remember the you remember the name Damian Pierce back in the day. Uh late. Woody Marks. Same situation. Um playing with the Texans. He got drafted like fifth round. I don't I don't remember what round he was. He wasn't an early round pick, but he just got put into a situation where Mick Chubb was the guy this year and coming off a major injury. Yeah, Damian Pierce still on the team. Brad, what do you what do you think Woody Marks looks like coming into next year, going into redraft? Like where say they don't, let's just say they draft uh another running back not early, not first, not second round, something like that. Because the Texans, they need offensive line. So I think that fourth round. He catches a lot, doesn't he? I mean, we I don't know, he splits it up, but I mean I just think it's gonna be always gonna be a double double back system. You know, you're probably gonna end up in that damn situation in Seattle. You know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um look Woody Marks, right, Craft Man. Woody Woody. Um, look, I agree. Listen, I will say this. I I did watch him play where one playoff game end, and I will say Woody Marks did look pretty good in that game, but I'm gonna be honest, I could not agree with you more. Like the I'm I got him in one league. If you want him, come and get his ass. I I mean my my question is what can I sell it for? A couple seconds, you know? That's that would be like the tip top price, I feel like.

SPEAKER_02

You think you get a late first in this class for him? No, there's not a lot of I don't think I don't know if there's a lot of running backs. You get a Mary and Hampton? Oh no.

SPEAKER_01

No, what man, I send that, but it wouldn't even take me five seconds, and I'd send that uh, you know what I'm saying? But I I you know, I I don't know. I just kind of think I'm gonna like Houston don't they don't owe Woody Marks nothing, you know what I'm saying? Like but the same thing with Damian Pierce. Like, I'm not gonna make that mistake again. I'm I'm sell I would sell him if I could. I agree, crap man. That was that was a good sell high right there. I've even like debated, like I've just slightly debated keeping him, and I was just thinking he has to survive the draft, you know what I'm saying? Like, does he survive the draft? He could survive the draft. I do agree, he could, because they need to invest in their old line.

SPEAKER_02

So he could. That's what I'm saying. They could do that and get a good, you know, bruiser back that steals all the goal lines. I got a couple names for you, Matt. And Brad. Woody Marks or Zach Charbonnet.

SPEAKER_01

I I'm gonna be real. I think I'd take Woody Marks. Uh just for the best guy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I still think I still think Walker's he still, I mean, they still each this that team has like got two good running backs on it.

SPEAKER_01

Walker's a Walker's a free agent. He's the same year as Brees Haldo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both first round picks.

SPEAKER_02

Right? I think I think Walker was a second.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was just about to say he might have been a second.

SPEAKER_02

I think you're right about that. What about Woody Marks or DeAndre Swift? Woody Marks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think I'd take Woody Marks too. This is uh Javante Williams. I'm Woody Marks on that. I'm just gonna be real. I think I would just ride it out for that. If anything, I would trade Woody Marks for some draft capital.

SPEAKER_02

I'd the same thing, Woody Marks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like I uh all those players, I think if you're just putting it up with those players, I I'd like Woody Marks.

Packers WR Room And Matthew Golden Debate

SPEAKER_02

But if you're gonna have a Cowboys player on my team.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, what's Javante's shelf life? I mean, he's gotta Javante's one of those people who gotta survive the draft now, you know? He could. He probably will, but I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02

RJ Harvey?

SPEAKER_01

Nah, man, I'm taking RJ Harvey. I will sell, I'll take RJ Harvey over Woody Marks if I could get that done.

SPEAKER_02

That ain't gonna be done. Yeah, I'd I'd take RJ Harvey. What about uh here here's a here's a good one, guy coming off of injury, Cam Scadabo, or Woody Marks. I mean, do you see how he got folded up?

SPEAKER_01

That that I'm with Brad on that. I don't really know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know when his I mean when his time is to come back.

SPEAKER_01

If you told me it's like an ACL, it's just a regular ACL, I'd say scataboo, but I mean what a I don't know what to think about that injury. You know what I'm saying? Like scatterboo might be done as a dynasty asset. I hate to say it. Well, I mean, we'll have to see.

SPEAKER_02

That was uh that was uh probably one of the biggest hits of the year, wasn't it? Yeah, the scatterboo. Yeah, he was like the it was kind of like the Nick Chubb thing when he went right, but I mean Nick Chubb's a lot older, but right you know, uh he at least and Nick Chubb at least got to run for about three years. Yeah, yeah. Before I mean uh a lot longer than that, yeah. Scattaboo was like, oh, out of college, oh, four games, damn. Yeah. Looking so good, too. He was, he's looking amazing. So good.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well, shoot, man. I guess I'll I'll I guess I'll toss me out of sale high then, crap man. Um was by my guy last year, and me and you talked about it, and I agree with you, I agree with you a hundred percent on the phone. I mean, you can't deny this is the fact. A sale high right now is Drake London for the Atlanta Falcons, because you know, if you got Drake London, you're probably competing in most situations. And I just think Drake London's not gonna do you no favors. Because my let's just put it like this Michael Penix went down for the Atlanta Falcons. He ain't starting at the beginning of the year. Kirk Cousins is starting to for the Atlanta Falcons, probably at least halfway through the year, you know what I'm saying? And even when Penix is ready to go, it ain't like Penix was good enough to say he's back in. Well, he's right back in the lineup. You know what I'm saying? Like, he wasn't that good. Like, if Kirk Cousins is five and two with the Atlanta Falcons, and Phoenix is healthy, Penix ain't coming back in the game. So um if Penix was there for Drake London, like Drake London spouted, he he went out it was like five weeks of top five finishes. It was like four or five weeks in a row. Yeah, it was hot. So even Penix, if he wasn't doing it real football-wise, he was doing it for Drake London. Kirk Cousins at the end of the year was doing it real football-wise. They were winning football games, but he wasn't doing it for Drake London. Yeah, and I think that's gonna continue into next year. We got Stefanski. I mean, I just found out about 30 minutes ago. Stefanski's our coach. We're gonna go in there. I'm hoping we're gonna be more disciplined and a little more buttoned up is what I'm begging. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just hoping the Falcons look a little more buttoned up and we actually are winning some football games. If we're five and two, four and three, Phoenix ain't getting in the lineup, that does no good for Drake London. We're looking at a dead year for Drake London, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

So I wouldn't say a dead year, but uh what his value is worth right now.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

I mean super high. Yeah. I agree. I agree. He's still high, he's still very high.

SPEAKER_01

So it's like, what are you looking for for Drake London? Like, if you ask me where he's at, he's like top of tier two. You know what I'm saying? And there might be another, there might be a couple guys ahead of him, but he's like up there in that top of tier two. So if you could give me somebody tear down, I would tear down and get a first if I could, the best I could.

SPEAKER_02

Nico Collins.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, with these, I do Nico Collins in a first. I don't know if anybody would do that. Oh actually, I mean Well, not in a first, straight up. Nah, I feel like you got it. If I if I'm trading a Drake London, I'm getting a player in a first. Somebody of that caliber. I'm just Olave? Hmm, man, that was tough, man.

SPEAKER_02

George Pickin, George Pickens in a first.

SPEAKER_01

What about what about somebody who's a bio, like BTJ in a first?

SPEAKER_02

BTJ is a whole different conversation. We can go all the way.

SPEAKER_01

We're about to have that conversation. I can't fucking wait. We're about to have that one. But I'm just saying. Go ahead. But I'm just saying, go ahead. Alright, well, we will, but I'm just saying Drake London though, can we agree he's a cell high?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he is a cell high.

SPEAKER_01

I like him, Brad, and redraft. Yeah. Like, where did where did Breed where did Drake London go? He went like uh back of the first, mid to left mid to early second.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Okay, so I think that's his I think that's his plateau, though, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where does he go next year?

SPEAKER_01

So what do you what what do you think? Same place? Well, I mean, what you think he's so if you're staring him down, let's just say he's at you you drafted your running back. I know you're gonna draft the running back in the first round. Let's just say he's sitting at the 202. You feel good with Drake. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But Drake London, you you're comfortable with him as your wide receiver one? You're at the 202?

SPEAKER_03

Probably not, probably not.

SPEAKER_02

He's drafted two running backs, Matt. So that's uh that is I'm not drafting Drake London as my wide receiver one. And I I mean, I need to get in that position where you're talking about like Williams and just way down there, like five and six.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that is true, man. You gotta think about who you asking. Brad is definitely going to run it back, running back.

SPEAKER_02

But I mean yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, if I can maybe if I can pull off getting Puka this year, well, I'm at Stafford, you know. If he's healthy, look at me coughing it up. Or not retired, yeah. Yeah. He could be healthy after he wins the Super Bowl, which he will. Same thing. I don't know. It's like throw it in the back of his ram truck and drive that shit away.

Running Back Market: Woody Marks And Comps

SPEAKER_01

I I'll say this. Like Drake London's talent to me is good enough where if you want to be patient, you can be patient with him. But let's just say you've had him for a couple years on your team and you want to win a championship. I just feel like if you could somehow swing some other good player, you know, if you can just trade Drake London and get somebody who can help you win, I feel like somebody's gonna finish higher in 2026 than Drake London is that we're not you know what I'm saying? Like Drake London's not gonna finish top ten like he's done the past two years if Kirk Cousins is a quarterback for two-thirds of the year. That's how I feel.

SPEAKER_02

Probably. Yeah, probably not. He really is. He is well. He sells himself. He sells himself. I got one. I got a whole team of Bilo's, pretty much. The entire team. The Lamaconkey, Quentin Johnson. Oh, yeah. Both of them guys. Trey Harris? Not O'Marion. Trey Harris, not a bad one. Uh Marion's probably in there. He's lower than he was. He's still he's still high, but he's lower than he was. And Justin Herbert. You can probably get him in the fifth, right? Who? Hampton next year? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'm drafting that bitch in the first. I'm about to say, like, I don't know. He definitely ain't on nobody low list. His value is still high, man, no matter what. At least for another year.

SPEAKER_02

That was such a small sample size, though. You know, it's like it was a tell of two tapes with the Chargers. The the Chargers with a good offensive line and the Chargers with uh the worst. It didn't just go to average, it went to the worst offensive line. And they all were performing at the start of the year. Even Keenan Allen was a top, like I think he was like top 12 for the first like four weeks or something. Lab was doing all right. Quentin Johnson was like the waiver wire pickup of the year. And then Joe Walt goes out. They lost Rashawn Slater before the season started. That offensive line gets healthy. Man, watch out for them Chargers next year.

SPEAKER_01

Watch out for them Chargers. No, I agree, bro. I think I think you're preaching a good word because like the first half of the year, I was saying that about the Texans. I was like, dude, everybody on the Texans is a buy low. But then they started winning games, and you're seeing Higgins do his thing a little bit, and you know, Nico is still Nico, so they're not them, but the Chargers 100%, dude. I agree. Because if they get that old line, they get Joe Alt back. I mean, I'm just saying, like all them guys. I I want a little piece of a little bit of everybody, you know what I'm saying? Gatson, give me some of him too, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'd want a little piece of it all.

SPEAKER_02

So it was just so obvious of what happened with that team.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree. I mean, Herbert's a little by low. You can come get by Herbert on me in fantasy, though, if y'all want to. Anyone want to want him?

SPEAKER_02

For real, in redraft next year, Hampton's going in the first two rounds, right?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. No matter what. I'd take a shot on him again. I would say, bro. Yeah, Brad. I know Brad would. And just think, he was hurt this past year, so you just gotta think. Is he gonna be a big thing? Yeah, he's gonna be fresh this year. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna be fresh, dude. I'd I might I might be.

SPEAKER_02

That's what you gotta think about at like McCaffrey got hurt. Oh, now what? Fresh. Yeah. Boom. Tear it a nut. Yeah. Najee. I mean, Vidal might even be back with that team. He looked all right this year. Might just be Hampton Vidal.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. I'll be honest, I I had a chance to sell in a team that I'm I'm tanking in. Somebody offered me a third for Vidal, and I was just thinking, man, you know what? I think I'm gonna keep Vidal. You know what I'm saying? Like you give me a second, I'd sell him, but a third. He was just right in that in-between there. I was thinking Vidal might be back.

SPEAKER_02

Najee probably Najee was an Achilles injury? He's done, yeah. Yeah, I think he's done. I think, yeah. I mean, he'll still be. I don't know. You don't think it's gonna affect him too much? You don't think Najee is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, my bad. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh Najee. No, I did that. Oh Najee's. I don't think Najee's gonna affect him too much. Najee's got a bilo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, he's a he's a done force. That's an asset that's done.

SPEAKER_02

That sucks. Just like J.K. Dobbins, huh, Matt? Huh? I mean, I think well, hey. That's a different story.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_02

Sounds familiar to me.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. I mean, I'm with you. I mean, if shit happens, how about that? That's all I'm gonna say. Uh Brad, you got any names you want to toss out?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, for buy lows or sell high?

SPEAKER_01

Either one. Either one.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Uh my boy probably be like uh Kyle Pitts. Selling. Selling high. We're selling. Selling.

SPEAKER_01

Sell high. There you go. Why?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, not only was his record distorted by like 50 points, but I mean, I just don't I just don't think he can be in that what you're gonna pay for him as tight end next year. You know, he had like one of them games that was just like you know, 50 points near the playoffs. Yeah. He is gonna be a high commodity, but looking at him, looking at him as far as the rankings go this year, he finished as a tight end too. Just give him I know you can't really do this, give him 20, give him 20 points in that week instead of 50. He's finishing under guys like Travis Kelsey, Jake Ferguson, Tyler Warren, Harold Fannon this year. He's right, he's right there with Dalton Schultz, where Dalton Schultz finished. But we did talk about Kirk Cousins and who he favors. If he doesn't favor Drake London, maybe he does favor Kyle Pitts.

SPEAKER_01

So I maybe that is I guess that is true. I'm kind of with Brad though. Like this dude finished as a tight end too. Like if I could man, just think if I could get somebody low and then get a second, you know what I'm saying? Add me some capital, add me some something I can do with some players. For Kyle Pitts, I'd do it. But I mean, yeah, you're right, Kraft. I mean, if Kirk Cousins comes back, you know, maybe Kyle Pitts. You know what? Maybe his sell high would be well, you know, I was about to say his sell high might be even better while he's killing it during the season, you know.

SPEAKER_02

But I mean, plus is a is is it a tight end premium in that one?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, most likely everybody's playing, you know. Yeah. Heck in my main league, I ain't playing tight end premium, but I would say most everybody's probably playing some sort of premium.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe you could pull off something crazy, you know, like um a Dalton Kincaid and somebody else, you know. Yeah. Kincaid's been disappointing also, but yeah. Well he was hurt too, but I mean, like, he he did he had some good days and some bad days. Yeah. Kincaid just, I don't know. He just can't stay healthy. He just might not be, he just might not be that good. Brett, I mean, Matt, are you buying in on Kincaid?

SPEAKER_01

Like, is he a by low right now? Look, I just think tight ends are year to year. I mean, we're talking about year, what, two or three with Kincaid. Like, I don't think you can ever just fully give up. You know what I'm saying? I just think you gotta pick a year for him to be all right. Like, what if next year he's good? You know what I'm saying? The same thing.

SPEAKER_02

Next year's the year of the craft, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01

My golly, bro. I should have won Average Joe's, bro. It just drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_02

That was a good pick. He might be a by-lo. He might be.

Major Sell High: Drake London’s 2026 Outlook

SPEAKER_01

Might be. I mean, Tucker Kraft's as good as any. I mean, there was a while Tucker Kraft was the what you know number one option for the Green Bay Packers. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

He is a, I mean, if you do the tape test, I mean, you can see once he was a pivotal part of that offense.

SPEAKER_01

I craft man, I want to get a little nasty, bro. I I want to stir it up just a little bit. I got a buy low for you. Brian Thomas Jr. And look, I'm dropping some solo episodes, and then you know, I want to talk uh every year we talk about the best buy low in Dynasty, the best sell high. Last year mine was T. Higgins as far as sell high, by the way. Uh he did fine. He did okay at times. I still would have sold high on his ad though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I gotta I gotta I gotta get I gotta jump in before you get the BTJ because T. Higgins is funny. Me and Noah were looking at him the other day. He finished, let's see, he finished as a wide receiver 15 this year. His fantasy points throughout since he's been in the league, so the last pretty much four years, he finishes wide receiver 12, 12, 17, 14, 16. I mean, can you get a better wide receiver two than T. Higgins?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I you know what, it is true. I mean, that dude does come through season-wise, but it it's the headache year to year. Every year it ain't been you know, roses, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

If I sometimes have to hear about your love affair with T. Higgins one more time. Hey, I had a love affair with Trevor Lawrence for a while too. And uh I feel like he's Williamson Detroit. Like he's the same dude. That's Noah's love affair, Jameson, who also finished as a wide receiver 12 this year. So yeah, that's mine. That was mine too. Yeah, dude. He ended up. I bought into that. Or we'll get you two. That's a guy that ain't been talked about at all. Sam Laporta. Yeah. After his injury.

SPEAKER_01

Sam Laporta or Tucker Kraft? Nah, Tucker Kraft, bro. It ain't even close. Nah. Tucker Kraft's gonna be back. I'd take Laporta. I sell Laporta. In fact, I need to have why isn't Noah Bubba Blow it out on us? I had a lot to say to him. You know, we got a team together. I we got a lot to talk about. I need a face-to-face with his ass. All right, but hold on now. My by low is Brian Thomas Jr. And uh this is what I'm saying. This one's nasty. My bad. I I feel like this one this one is nasty, you know what I'm saying? I feel like he could be the best by low in Dynasty right now. We just saw him finish as like the wide receiver, I can't remember, six or seven as his rookie. Four. And a lot of it was with Mac Jones. I I agree, I understand that. And and um I just think Brian Thomas Jr., I think uh sometimes these guys play hurt a little bit, and we don't know about I think he was hurt. That's why he would look like a little bitch out there coming up short. Like, now nobody pulls up like the way he was pulling up this year unless you're hurt, bro. I'm talking about from beginning of the year type shit, type of the deal. So my thing is we saw how good he is, and now we're seeing Trevor Lawrence start to ascend. This dude just finished as a quarterback four in fantasy football. The Jacksonville Jaguars are definitely here as far as um like what can I say? Trevor Lawrence. If Trevor Lawrence would be lucky as could be if he won one Super Bowl, but at least maybe one year, they could sneak one out. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a slight chance. Like, you can't usually say that for the Jags, you know what I mean? This offense is gonna ascend. Travis Hunter's gonna be back, and I think everybody's thinking, you know, it's gonna be crowded. Jacob Myers, Jacoby Myers, and all that. I'm just telling you right now, dude, I think it just makes the offense better. I think everything is going to be better. We got ETM, we got Tootin', we got a run game. I think everything's gonna be better. I think Brian Thomas Jr. is gonna get it going. This is the this is just the prime opportunity of a guy with a lot of talent that his uh stock is super low. Like, his stock is super low. Like, these guys don't really come open like that. I looked at his ADP before this season. He was going number 17. That's uh the 205 in startup drafts last year. You know what I'm saying? Like, this dude ain't no scrub, this dude ain't no bum, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just thinking he had a terrible year. I think it's possible he could have been hurt, and I would buy low on his ass. I and I did it. I'm practicing what I preached. I did Devontae Smith in a second, and I got Brian Thomas Jr. And I got Jacoby Myers back in that trade, you know what I'm saying? But I would have did it with just Brian Thomas Jr. You know what I'm saying? So I practicing what I preach.

SPEAKER_02

These guys Yeah, I mean I think that's a fair trade. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So I mean, what do you think, Krabman? I know it's nasty.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it's a little nasty. I actually traded for Brian Thomas um in my other dynasty league. I think I traded a late a late first for him, um, but ended up being a late first mid-season. But I I wasn't able to put him in my starting lineup for the rest of the season. I kind of thought it was gonna pick up a little bit, but I am worried about uh Parker Washington and Jacoby Myers. I mean, you can shake your head at Parker Washington, he looked pretty damn good. Nah, he was great, bro. That didn't make it. You got a new regime. That's the thing that that scares me the most off of Brian Thomas is the year before Jag sucked and Brian Thomas was Austin. I'm as a proud ex-resident of Duval County. I'll tell you right now, I just don't think they only have like two years before they go back to trash. Yeah, that's how Jacksonville rolls. Right. It's like, man, it's the quickest, it's the quickest uh carousel ride you've ever been on. It's like, oh, bro, Blake Bortle's the baddest motherfucker around. Oh shit. Then has like the three receivers they uses all the time. Two years later, he's Alan Robinson.

SPEAKER_01

Alan Robinson was one of that trash, yeah. Yeah, trash. I mean, I agree, but uh the only thing is you just gotta hope that, and it's the same thing I was saying about the Bears last year. Yeah, like the Bears, they've been trash my whole life. I'm 32 years old, man. They've rarely been good. You know what I'm saying? Jay Cutler, that's basically my lifetime, you know what I'm saying? That's all I've seen. So think about uh what what I'm talking about, and I was saying you just gotta hope that the Bears take a step up. And I think the Bears this year took a step up. I just think the Jacksonville Jaguars, you just gotta hope. I feel like they did take a step up. You just gotta hope now that Trevor Lawrence.

SPEAKER_02

They did take a step up, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I think but and I think what Brad is saying is right. Like like organizations are just like the Jacksonville Jaguars are trash, bro. So two years they will be trash. But if you if you just you just gotta hope and believe that maybe T Law brings that stability and maybe the head coach. And that's what you gotta hope. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying T Law's gonna win Super Bowls, but maybe he can add stability for the next five to seven years or something if you make it more than two. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. But I don't know, like it is the Jags. It's the same thing with the Jets. They are the Jets, the Falcons.

SPEAKER_02

The pattern always seems like it comes out of somewhere, you know. It's like the oh, for some reason now the Patriots have the best quarterback you've ever seen in your life now. Yeah. It's like, oh, oh shit. I got rid of Tom Brady a couple years later. They get gifted with Drake May. It's not coincidence. You know what I'm saying? It's it's like it's how teams are run. I think the Jags, I mean I think Trevor Lawrence is good enough to make the Jags. I wouldn't say like a playoff team every year, but I would say fantasy relevant for the weapons. Like Josh Allen caliber? No.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, if you're just gonna talk about him losing, but I'm gonna be real, I'm not saying that. I I think T Law could get lucky in the stars aligned. I mean, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Dak Prescott is a great is great for fantasy and the weapons around him, but they never made the playoffs. Trevor Lawrence could be the same for the Jacks.

SPEAKER_01

I think T Law is gonna win a little bit more, though. I'm just being real. Yeah, yeah, I can't. I like T-Law. Yeah, that's real football talk right there. But look, but listen, that's what and the thing is, is and another thing is I know people are love Travis Hunter, but I'm just gonna be real. I'm not sure that Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas Jr. at playing wide receiver. I'm just being honest. Probably. So I I just think we we might see him a line in year three. Everything just works out. But Brian Thomas Jr., nasty. Go ahead. Hey crap, man, you can switch it on up.

Chargers Injuries, ADP Swings, And Herbert

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I got I got one more. Um, this is probably I would say my favorite by low because he isn't a guy that's attainable in dynasty because he's around that 28, 28-year-old range where nobody really wants them and you can get them. And kind of like Devontae Adams was uh a couple years ago, and he's been panning out for three straight years. But exactly. Scary Terry over there with uh the commanders. Scary Terry, man. I uh he he was fine when he came back this year. He was injured a lot, but I'm not saying I I kind of think the commanders are gonna be kind of trash for the next couple years. I think next year they're gonna, I think next year because they're gonna be trash, they're gonna have to. I think Scary Terry will have a decent year next year. Out this year, he's gonna be good next year. And he just got paid. So, you know, I feel like he's gonna be good next year. He was fine when he came back. He'll probably be a deal in redraft, too. Where do you think he goes in redraft, Brad? Like fifth, sixth round or something? I mean, probably yeah, probably down there, fifth or sixth. And this is this is a guy if Jaden, if Jaden Daniels stays healthy all year with their terrible defense where they just have to throw the ball all the time. And yeah, you know, that'd be a good one. Yeah, I kind of think he he comes back and has a decent year this year. Yes, at least like a wide receiver two or something. Right. Yeah, I mean I could I I could see him using, you know, I mean it was a terrible pick this year. It's like I looked around, everybody knew it but me. Like, oh again. Oh shit, what do you what do you mean? Contract situation, contract situation, yeah. Like, didn't hardly play at all, got hurt. First game he played. It's like shit. Yeah. He must have just got paid. He must have just got paid. Damn. And Debo, Debo's probably on the way out. They're not gonna hold on to Debo Samuel another. Yeah, Terry. I mean, they thought they had they struck fools gold last year. Washington, the Washington commander struck fool's gold last year. Is it the are are they the Jags of uh this year? Yeah. Is that where you're is that where you're at with that? Yeah. Well, Matt, where I'm at with that. Where you at? Where you at?

SPEAKER_01

Where am I at with old scary Terry? Yeah, old scary Terry. Man, nah, crap, man, you're dead on the nail, man. And it's something that it's somebody you're not even thinking about. So like for your competing teams, like I feel like that's just sneaky, you know what I'm saying? Smooth with it. So yeah, I mean, I feel like you gotta feel like Jaden Daniels is gonna bounce back this year. Like, I think like let's be real. I I how do I I mean I've gotten to where I play fantasy football almost as if if these quarterbacks have a good year, I'm almost expecting them to have a bad year the next year. Unless, unless it's like, you know, Josh Allen. Like you got those top two or three guys, you know what I'm saying? But even Lamar.

SPEAKER_02

Even Lamar year. Joe Burrow does it every other year. He's like the Christian McCaffrey quarterbacks. The best part about it is like when you do it, you look like the smartest motherfucker in the world. Right. And what oh shit, he was sucked last year, but oh, what'd he do this year, bitch?

SPEAKER_01

Oh and crap, man. What was we saying about like CJ Stroud when he after he went off that rookie year? We were saying sell high, and we were saying I wouldn't draft him in the fourth round and redraft. We was saying all that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like some of that stuff. So like when Jaden Daniels had his year, I was like, man, no doubt. The Washington Commanders are an easy team to regress. You know what I'm saying? That's not gonna be as good. All right, so now next year, they'll be a little bit better, I believe. So scary Terry, I agree. I'm with you, Kraftman. I like it.

SPEAKER_02

That's just that's just one of those players you see on your roster, too. If you're not a competing team, you're just kind of looking to get rid of. Yeah. Exactly it's like on the top of your list of guys I need to move on from. Yeah, he's a tasty. That's the guy. That's the guy that has him as his uh his first or second wide receiver because he drafted four running backs. Yeah. That's the kind of guy you're looking at, like, oh yeah. Oh, that's my boy right there. For real. Next year you'll be all over it, Brad. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know it. All right. Um, any more names? We're coming on 58. Brad, what's up, bro? You got any more names you want to toss out there? Uh for by the one.

SPEAKER_02

For by low, I mean, I guess I mean I don't I don't know. I mean, everybody's gonna hate, but like uh I feel like if you go with that same pattern, maybe, maybe Jordan Love will be better next year. You can buy them real low. You can buy them real dirt. You don't even gotta buy them. You can just like get them later.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02

Uh you well, uh hey, I well, I know you're talking redraft, so we're talking about we're talking, yeah, like he's very pretty valuable still in your in your uh dynasty.

SPEAKER_01

I agree. That's why I was gonna ask Crap Man. I mean, what is Jordan Love at this point now? Like what you gotta pay? I mean, no doubt you still gotta get him. Let's see.

SPEAKER_02

He's a QB. I don't even know what like what value. I mean, you're playing him as your second quarterback, probably. Yeah, I think he's just right there kind of middling around. Um, I've been looking to I've been looking to sell him in my dynasty league, but I got four quarterbacks. I got Lamar, Burrow, Love, and Bob. Oh, okay. Well, you just you just QB Rich then. Yeah, I traded a shit ton for Lamar and he didn't do nothing for me, but still won championship, so it don't matter. Um no thanks to fucking Lamar.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, I think if you think about uh Tucker Kraft coming back next year and then hopefully Christian Watson being back for a full year, you know what I'm saying? Like, what if Christian Watson is back healthy for a full year for once? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

They re-signed um LaFleur.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that's a that's a no-brainer. Of course. Brad, I I called Kraft or I texted Kraft. I was watching motherfucking Fox in the morning or whatever one day, and Jay Glazer comes on there with all these names with a hot seat, and LaFleur was on there. I just started giggling, bro, because I was just like, come on now. That's crazy. I mean, yeah, they're in the playoffs again, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Well, see, that's what that's what kills me about um Harbaugh. You're just like, what else do you want? You're in the playoffs every year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I agree with you, and I wish the Falcons could have got him. But I mean, I'm I'm satisfied with what we got. But I'm just saying, like uh John Harbaugh, or like I would have gone with a Mike Thomas. But anything. I mean, just think about if you're somebody like the Falcons, you know what I'm saying? Like, we'll take anybody who could have some stability. You know what I'm saying? Like, God, golly, but no, yeah, I'm with you. I guess with Jim Harbaugh, it had been longer. But I mean, LaFleur's young and shit. Jordan love too, bro. Like, yeah. You would have to start all over.

Tight End Talk: Kyle Pitts, Kincaid, Laporta

SPEAKER_02

Right. Yeah, I mean, that's like that's LaFleur's offense and defense. I mean his offense, yeah. You just yeah, I mean, you got you can't really go away from that. And then like, because you're gonna because you're still in that window. If you're a playoff team, you're in a Super Bowl window. You know, you have to think of it like that.

SPEAKER_03

Like I agree.

SPEAKER_02

You know, next year depends on it. Like the Packers are so good of being in that window, just never opening that fucking window. So yeah, and I mean, you get some some help back to the team, Tucker Kraft, Michael Parsons. You never know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, nope, I'm with you. Alright, Kraftman. I got a couple dirty names. Uh alright, this one's the nastiest of them all. And this one's my last uh by low. It's my last by low of the night. And this is the this is this is the the new version of QJ right here, Kraftman.

SPEAKER_02

I'm well I'm ready to hear it.

SPEAKER_01

We love some QJ. Is it Jerry Judy? Nah, man, no. It's way nastier, bro. It's way nastier, bro. Man, I I have, I'll be honest, man. I've been on my little health kick, so I haven't been drinking, but since I was gonna be on with Brad and Kraftman tonight, I drank me a few beers tonight, so I'm laughing when I get this name out right here. But I'm buying love on Caleb Johnson. Let's go. Hold on, man. Hold on, man. Hear me out, man. And and I get it, bro. Just total disaster, bro. Total disaster. Because look, I put Caleb Johnson as like a my guy. Like he was that rookie running back going in like the fifth or sixth round. Oh my god, man. All right, bro. I'm gonna try to get I'm gonna try my best to get through this, bro. I'm gonna try my best to get through this.

SPEAKER_02

But this is now the pitch a case for this guy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, bro. All right. Think about how dirt cheap you can get Kale Johnson. It's dirt cheap.

SPEAKER_02

He don't have Tomlin anymore to hold him back, to hold his special talents down. I mean, Mike Tomlin was just old and decrepit, and he was just like, this rookie will never play for Mike Two.

SPEAKER_01

Crap, I'm gonna be real, man. It's been a long time since I got like that on the podcast, bro, where I laugh that hard, bro. It's been a couple years, you know what I'm saying? But but this is the truth. I think you're gonna expect the Pittsburgh Steelers to be just complete garbage for the next few years, no matter what. Their quarterback situation is gonna be bad. Their coaching situation is gonna be bad. And they're gonna need to run the ball. And I'm just gonna be real. All they're gonna do is hand the ball off. And Caleb Johnson's gonna get it at me. Hey, Jalen Warren's there.

SPEAKER_02

Jalen Johnson's gonna be the third worst running back on that team.

SPEAKER_01

My thing is like they've already signed one. They've already signed Warren. And Caleb Johnson, they got him on day two draft capital. So Kenneth Gainwell can't stay, bro. He ain't gonna be there. And this is a team that's gonna be trash, bro. Kenneth Gainwell is gonna go you take his services to someone who's probably gonna be trying to compete with the way he looked. Let's just be real. So Caleb Johnson right there, bro. And listen, bro, I'm laughing so hard because, man, dude, I was so high on this dude and could not been any worse. I mean, just a terrible, terrible. I've talked about all my predictions, crap, man. Like when we've been doing this podcast, this is probably like year five, bro. It don't get no worse than my Caleb Johnson's predictions before this year.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, we at least sold them. We sold them in uh we sure did.

SPEAKER_01

We sold them for Derrick Henry, goddamn. I cannot believe Derek Henry.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, somebody was higher on Calen Johnson than you, Matt. Somebody really believed me.

SPEAKER_01

Man, when they sent that trade, I couldn't believe somebody sent that trade, bro. You had no choice to accept it, you know what I'm saying? I think even if you're rebuilding, you got no choice to accept it. Yeah, what do you? Oh man, dude. Oh man, I'm just dead after that shit. Uh, anyways. But that's my bilo. I knew that was gonna be nasty. It was gonna be hard to get through it, but and listen, man, in most leagues, unless you're dealing with Zamil Galani, you could get him in a lot of leagues for a third, I bet. You know what I'm saying? But I I be trying to get him from OZ over there. He wants two seconds plus. I'm like, hell nah, bro. You tripping, man. That dude was so trash last year, bro. So trash. All right, but anyways, the QJ. He's the next QJ. I'm just saying, like, I swung and I missed. But in leagues that I didn't have him in, and if I can go get Caleb Johnson for a third, slide in my way, dude. I'll do that shit in a heartbeat, man. I I wouldn't even hesitate. If you want to send me Caleb Johnson for a third right now, I will accept it. Thank you. Crap, man.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you for the wonderful player that I have. And your argument, your argument against it was this team's gonna be so trash for the next couple years. I think you know who the shining star will be.

SPEAKER_01

But the truth is, is like I don't get it, bro. The thing is, is the dude clearly had to be a bust. I'm just being honest. The dude's a bust. He has to be talent-wise, because I'm gonna be real. If you even when Jalen Warren went down for games, if you can't get carries over Kenneth Gainwell, you're not good at it. Yeah, that's good. You're not good at football. So Kenneth's clearly not good. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? And it ain't just, oh, Aaron Rodgers is an old man and he don't want it. It's not just that, bro. The dude wasn't performing, he probably wasn't blocking, he probably wasn't doing nothing right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like the dude obviously was trash. Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers ain't gonna be. You know what I'm saying? They're not talking about like and they said he's ass, bro. And he is ass. So now I'm saying the only thing saving his ass now is if you didn't spend a 105 on him like I fucking did in my home league, if you didn't do that stupid ass shit, I go spend a third and I go get Caleb Johnson because you know what? Something's gonna have to give. He'll probably get 20 carries with Pittsburgh with Mason Rudolph and the 4-13 Pittsburgh Steelers. So that's my nasty play of the day. And for those, if you listen to my any rookie draft analysis or any redraft analysis by Caleb Johnson, that was my biggest swing in my miss ever. He is so trash. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I was I was right there. I wasn't that far up under you, man. I was I mean, I was I was pretty high on Caleb Johnson. You can't go wrong with the Pittsburgh running back. Right, but Pittsburgh running back. Even if he's returning kicks and runs out the end zone. Didn't Caleb Johnson Caleb Johnson came in for like the first couple weeks and he returned a kick, caught it, and then ran back in the end zone for it's like a safety or some shit.

Spicy Buy Low: Brian Thomas Jr. And Jags

SPEAKER_01

I don't remember what like that shit is not gonna fly with Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers, bro. You can't be going out there acting goofy. The thing is, is he wasn't ready. That that was a team that was mature and ready to win now, and he wasn't ready. And the thing is, is the only reason he's even like if it was Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers again, I would not even be able to sit here and say this. That dude's ass uh his fit his his value would be just complete nothing, bro. Because they'd bring Kennedy Gainwell out there again. You know what I'm saying? Probably. He'd probably be some Caleb Johnson be the healthy scratch, be the Keon Coleman. I wouldn't even be I wouldn't even get to call him the damn QJ. I'd have to call him the Keon Coleman, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like goddamn, bro. That's just crazy, man. But anyways, I know that was nasty, bro. But the thing is, is like I actually like the tape, you know. You know, I'm not saying I'm a scout. I actually like Caleb Johnson. Like, he really is just a one cut and go kind of guy. Like, I don't really get why he couldn't make it work.

SPEAKER_02

Uh it had to be, it had to be the way that team was uh that team was built this year. Yeah, he he just wasn't he wasn't ready to play with Aaron Rodgers. Nah, I agree. Because he's definitely he's definitely a stud.

SPEAKER_01

There's no doubt about that. Well look, crap, man. I listen since I had trouble getting through my last name, I'm just gonna go ahead and give you my last one. And uh this one, it's a sale high. It's a sale high. He got me a sale high, and it's gonna be Michael Wilson. And listen, we got him in our own league. And I even debated, I sat here and I thought about it, and I was thinking, uh, what am I gonna do with Michael Wilson this year? Am I about to roll in? That's dude was putting up some good games. Am I about to roll into another season with Michael Wilson? You know what? I'm just thinking they just fired Jonathan Glen Glenn, uh, what's his name? Gannon. Jonathan Gannon. Uh so you know, I'm gonna get through it quick, but I just think that one's a shit show. It's all falling to hell. Like, Kyler's not gonna be there. And even when he performed, it was with Jacoby Brissett. And what are they gonna do? They're gonna ride Jacoby Brissett out there next year? I don't he probably won't even be with the team next year.

SPEAKER_02

I don't that's that's one of the they're they're right in line to me with like just the no future gang.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, like Jets, them, like a no future. Raiders.

SPEAKER_01

They're done. Like Kyler's gone.

SPEAKER_02

Raiders got no future.

SPEAKER_01

Kyler, he'll be done. Uh Gannon's gone.

SPEAKER_02

This just is special alert.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You know, they're gonna be like, are they?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Yeah, they're score.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, 41 to something.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's 41 to 6. See yo, Sam Darnold, man. Shout out to Sam Darnold, man. I'm drinking one for you tonight, big dog. For real. I was dead wrong on his ass.

SPEAKER_02

How do you not take Sam Fran at plus seven? That's what I'm saying. Holy shit. I put money on the money line. I was like, oh, they're gonna win this game. But you know who's coming for the mass.

SPEAKER_03

I'll right there with you, bro. I'll right there with you. That's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02

You know who's coming for the mask next week. Matt Stafford and the boys. Or Caleb Williams and them guys. Don't do it again, Brad. We embarrass ourselves enough with the Packers versus Bears.

SPEAKER_01

We embarrass ourselves enough. Craft Man. Any any more names to toss out of there? Y'all go ahead and toss them out. We've been on over in this will be a long list.

SPEAKER_02

Pretty much real quick. We mentioned everybody that uh had on the list. Only other one I wanted your opinion on. Uh what about what do you think about Jalen Coker over there with the Panthers? See any good?

SPEAKER_01

I'd sell high on his ass. Wow, he's got some little bit of hype. Go sell him for a second right now.

SPEAKER_02

And Kirk Cousins was my other bilo.

SPEAKER_01

But we talked about we talked about him a little bit. Alright, listen, I'm gonna say this. If you're competing for a championship, like, you know, if you're in doo-doo, uh crab man, I'd go spend a second on Kirk Cousins. Because you gotta have quarterbacks. I'm I'm with it. But that's the situation you gotta be in. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like you're that you're good. You know Kirk Cousins is starting at least half, probably the whole season. Uh you know what I'm saying. So 100%. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You think a new you think a new coach is coming in there, Kevin Stefansky? You've seen how long it took for him to put Shadur in and anybody else in. Like he's Kirk Cousins, he's not gonna ruin his job by putting Michael Penix in too early. No, I'm just gonna be real, bro.

SPEAKER_01

I it honestly, I'm just I I'm surprised that honestly, I feel just fortunate that we even got a guy like Stefansky in there. And not some uh Arthur Blank may have done something correct for once. Because I can't see. You got the Browns head coach. Nah, I'm I'm just gonna be real though. This dude had at least some kind of stability with the Browns, you know what I'm saying? Like, uh like for what he could do with the Browns, I feel like he probably maxed out and did the best.

SPEAKER_02

The roster that he was given.

SPEAKER_01

And and the defense, they had a good defense. Like, dude, come to Atlanta and give us a defense. I beg it to you. I'm 32. I've never seen a good one. And even when they rank one, when they rank up in a high in the top 10, it's because we got the ball control so high. Like, bro, the Falcons are trash, bro. I fucking hate the Falcons so bad, so much, bro. So so that's that's to the point where I'm at. Like, we bring Stefanskin, the Browns head coach, and I'm just sitting here ecstatic. That's where I'm at in life. And I that's my story. I'm just smoking to it.

SPEAKER_02

That's a sad story, man.

SPEAKER_01

It's a sad fucking story, Brad, but I'm fucking sick of it. I'm sick of it, bro. I hate them so much. Raheem Morris? Are you serious, Arthur Blink? Like, that's just a joke, bro. That's just goofy. The fact that you would even consider bringing Raheem Morrison as the head coach is utterly absurd and laughable, along with Arthur Smith. I mean, holy shit.

SPEAKER_02

But anyway.

SPEAKER_01

I wish y'all would let LaFleur go and bring him over to Atlanta. I mean, holy shit. I would just accept that and in a heartbeat. Wouldn't even hesitate.

SPEAKER_02

That you know he thought was crazy. I think like we should trade Jordan Love and keep Malik Willis and get a better defensive player. Well, another great defensive player. He said traded for Max Crosby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. I mean, I'm just being real.

SPEAKER_02

Shore up that money, you know what I mean? Dude, you I and I and my argument to him was you're so used to watching Brett Favre but Aaron Rodgers, you don't know what an average quarterback looks like, and that's what Jordan Love is. It can get worse. That's sad. I don't like it. I promise you that. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01

I just want to do that. Jordan Love played fine, man. Just give Jordan Love another. I would give Jordan Love some more time with. Bro, I'm just gonna be real. Let's just be honest. They've swung and missed at wide receiver, bro. They've swung and missed. They keep on swinging and missing. Like, why do they keep drafting guys? Matthew Golden, are you fucking serious, bro? They should have got Ted McMillan, bro.

SPEAKER_02

He went way before that.

SPEAKER_01

Man, trade up and go get his ass, bro. Come on, bro. You know what you need. Everybody know in the world knows what you need. And then you go get Matthew Golden. Come on, bro. You got like four of him. Go get you a good a beast, bro. Go get you somebody somebody Jordan Lulkin just.

SPEAKER_02

I wish they would do though. It's like young talent up under, but then like trade. I mean, I'm trade for like a uh, you know, an AJ Brown or a DJ Moore or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, go trade for AJ Brown right now, bro. You can do it. You leave it if you can. Leave it be. I'm just gonna be honest. Jordan Love AJ Brown.

Scary Terry As A Veteran Value Play

SPEAKER_02

Jordan Love with his uh Wells Parsons. We ain't got no money. Or Malik Willis with with uh span it, man. Dude, uh I'm not even getting into this with Malik Willis with his three games. The the games that he came in, the defenses weren't even didn't even have tape on them. Like he came in halfway through the game. They're not ready for a rushing quarterback like this. Like Malik Willis is not a starting quarterback.

SPEAKER_01

Well, listen, crap. What what what's the day? Any more names that you want to throw out before I know we own the panel talk, but any more names? Are we all good? We all square. Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, we got them.

SPEAKER_02

We covered them all. Covered them all.

SPEAKER_01

We have covered them all. Listen, this is an hour, 16 minutes of content for your ass. And and listen, uh, with that said, I just want to thank everybody for listening to the podcast. That's the thing about we like to get on here and do this, but thank y'all for listening. It's fun to do, really. So, Brad, thank you for coming on again tonight. Gotta get the bubble blower on, gotta get them on. Gotta get them, man. Gotta get them.

SPEAKER_02

Hard to track them down.

SPEAKER_01

So, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Just bubbling blowing bubbles.

SPEAKER_01

But with that said, listen, uh, all we ask is that you share the show. These are the best episodes right here. Bio sell highs, because that's what dynasty is really about. And if you hit them right, then you can go get a championship. I mean, just think if you hit a couple by lows right. You know what I'm saying, Craft Man? Where you're like, damn, I spent this and got this guy, and now I'm eight and two up in this bitch. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Like, it ain't even gotta be by lows, it could just be guys that you believe in and play paying fair value for them. Like when I went out and got Puka everywhere. Right. We don't wanna hear about all that. And you know what?

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna there's not just there's all different types of by lows and sell highs, you know what I'm saying? Like uh like I could give you I could sit here and do an episode on or on a reason why Justin Jefferson is a by low, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I am.

SPEAKER_02

Still can't get him for fair value though. But you can't be holding on to him. Yeah, so I you know. JJ McCarthy, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. So like we're gonna do a lot of these by low sell highs. Like, there's different times through the free. Malik neighbors, the draft, Malik neighbors. I mean, dang, when he got hurt, I was trying to get them big time, but I just couldn't speak it. Couldn't make it make, couldn't make it work. So, but I agree. So uh, yeah, all right, crap man, anything you want to say to the folks out there? No, I just appreciate everybody for listening. Yep, I agree. Brad, anything you want to add out there?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, man. We do appreciate everybody for listening tonight.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. I mean, this is I mean, these are some of our best episodes just chopping it up. But like I said, everybody just share the show. At us on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, you name it, we're on it. But with that said, we are out. Peace.