{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":2.88,"body":"You're going to take on the world episode 30."},{"startTime":2.88,"endTime":4.88,"body":"Israel, Gaza."},{"startTime":4.88,"endTime":13.2,"body":"Welcome to the episode of You're going to take on the world."},{"startTime":13.2,"endTime":15.6,"body":"I am Dustin and joining me is Lauren."},{"startTime":15.6,"endTime":17.64,"body":"Lou, it's kind of big news."},{"startTime":17.64,"endTime":18.96,"body":"Happening this week though."},{"startTime":18.96,"endTime":26.24,"body":"So, yeah, ignore this Israel Gaza stuff, I guess."},{"startTime":26.24,"endTime":29.52,"body":"Especially this time around."},{"startTime":29.52,"endTime":33.28,"body":"So, we need to start with history."},{"startTime":33.28,"endTime":37.44,"body":"Everybody goes, \"Ahhhh.\""},{"startTime":37.44,"endTime":38.88,"body":"But actually it's really interesting."},{"startTime":38.88,"endTime":42.24,"body":"It's going to be high level, but we need to get 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Jews around..."},{"startTime":666.8,"endTime":669.36,"body":"pogroms began."},{"startTime":669.36,"endTime":677.76,"body":"Uh, back in Germany, when Martin Luther started the Protestant Reformation."},{"startTime":677.76,"endTime":681.28,"body":"One of the key principles was that Jews were evil and needed to be destroyed."},{"startTime":681.28,"endTime":685.92,"body":"Yeah, they gloss over that one in school."},{"startTime":685.92,"endTime":691.2,"body":"So the 30 years war, you had Catholics and Protestants fighting all across Germany,"},{"startTime":691.2,"endTime":692.24,"body":"slaughtering Jews."},{"startTime":692.24,"endTime":695.92,"body":"Uh, like, bad, bad stuff."},{"startTime":695.92,"endTime":696.4,"body":"Really bad."},{"startTime":696.4,"endTime":700.96,"body":"By the time you get to the 1890s, you start getting these"},{"startTime":700.96,"endTime":712.32,"body":"white racist evangelical pro-Jewish groups that they weren't actually pro-Jewish 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Now, when I was in Jordan, I made a weekend trip to Jerusalem."},{"startTime":1317.2,"endTime":1321.84,"body":"As far as Jordan was concerned, I did not cross any border crossings."},{"startTime":1321.84,"endTime":1328.08,"body":"So they did not stamp my passport out or in because they did not recognize"},{"startTime":1328.08,"endTime":1331.04,"body":"the Jordan River as a border."},{"startTime":1331.04,"endTime":1332.56,"body":"Israel sure did."},{"startTime":1332.56,"endTime":1333.6,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1333.6,"endTime":1334.96,"body":"They stamped me in and out."},{"startTime":1334.96,"endTime":1335.2,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1336.16,"endTime":1340.32,"body":"It resulted in a situation where I had to get my visa extended in Jordan"},{"startTime":1340.32,"endTime":1345.52,"body":"because even though I left the country and re-entered, I didn't leave the country and 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somewhere."},{"startTime":1428.0,"endTime":1429.68,"body":"They don't go somewhere."},{"startTime":1429.68,"endTime":1431.6,"body":"They just end up staying and getting slaughtered."},{"startTime":1431.6,"endTime":1435.76,"body":"So there were several Arab movements."},{"startTime":1435.76,"endTime":1444.56,"body":"The PLO, Palestinian Liberation Organization, was the primarily secular organization."},{"startTime":1444.56,"endTime":1447.28,"body":"They were the ones involved in the Munich Olympics bombing,"},{"startTime":1447.28,"endTime":1448.96,"body":"main hijackings."},{"startTime":1448.96,"endTime":1451.6,"body":"And that was Yasser Erafat's group."},{"startTime":1451.6,"endTime":1455.44,"body":"He renounced terrorism in the 90s."},{"startTime":1455.44,"endTime":1465.44,"body":"And his organization went peaceful and moved towards getting more autonomy for their occupied 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territories."},{"startTime":1635.76,"endTime":1636.88,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":1636.88,"endTime":1638.08,"body":"Primarily Iran."},{"startTime":1638.08,"endTime":1638.32,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1638.32,"endTime":1639.52,"body":"All right."},{"startTime":1639.52,"endTime":1641.04,"body":"So."},{"startTime":1641.04,"endTime":1643.44,"body":"So you can see why some bleeding heart liberal might say,"},{"startTime":1643.44,"endTime":1645.52,"body":"\"Oh, that's, that's, we got to fix this.\""},{"startTime":1645.52,"endTime":1649.92,"body":"So what I'm going to say before we start about the,"},{"startTime":1649.92,"endTime":1651.2,"body":"talk about the current crisis."},{"startTime":1651.2,"endTime":1653.28,"body":"Israel is in apartheid state."},{"startTime":1653.28,"endTime":1654.32,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1654.32,"endTime":1656.24,"body":"By definition of apartheid."},{"startTime":1656.24,"endTime":1659.68,"body":"They are what they have been doing to Gaza has 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over a hundred people hostage."},{"startTime":1747.44,"endTime":1750.32,"body":"They captured several towns and villages."},{"startTime":1750.32,"endTime":1755.2,"body":"And between then and the time of recording,"},{"startTime":1755.2,"endTime":1757.04,"body":"which is Sunday, October 15,"},{"startTime":1757.04,"endTime":1759.84,"body":"Israel has retaken their territory."},{"startTime":1759.84,"endTime":1764.8,"body":"The civilian death toll on both sides is well over a thousand."},{"startTime":1764.8,"endTime":1765.6,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1765.6,"endTime":1769.68,"body":"The military death toll on both sides is approaching a thousand."},{"startTime":1769.68,"endTime":1773.84,"body":"Hezbollah has been launching"},{"startTime":1773.84,"endTime":1776.4,"body":"some missiles out of Lebanon."},{"startTime":1777.04,"endTime":1780.16,"body":"Which is normal activity."},{"startTime":1780.16,"endTime":1782.64,"body":"And normal for that area."},{"startTime":1782.64,"endTime":1784.0,"body":"Relatively normal activity."},{"startTime":1784.0,"endTime":1788.0,"body":"And there have been a few people killed in the West Bank as well at this point."},{"startTime":1788.0,"endTime":1790.56,"body":"I don't know any details on that one."},{"startTime":1790.56,"endTime":1795.04,"body":"Yeah. 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area."},{"startTime":1827.44,"endTime":1828.72,"body":"Some of these..."},{"startTime":1828.72,"endTime":1830.08,"body":"Set up for failure much."},{"startTime":1830.08,"endTime":1835.28,"body":"Some vehicles fleeing have been hit"},{"startTime":1835.28,"endTime":1836.4,"body":"by Israeli missiles."},{"startTime":1836.4,"endTime":1841.04,"body":"They have been given specific instructions about where to go,"},{"startTime":1841.04,"endTime":1845.2,"body":"what hours to travel and when to be off the roads."},{"startTime":1845.2,"endTime":1847.44,"body":"And some of the vehicles are still getting hit by missiles."},{"startTime":1847.44,"endTime":1850.8,"body":"And from the last report, I saw"},{"startTime":1850.8,"endTime":1855.92,"body":"several hundred thousand Palestinians have fled northern Gaza."},{"startTime":1855.92,"endTime":1856.88,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1856.88,"endTime":1859.68,"body":"Israel is a full-blown war zone."},{"startTime":1859.68,"endTime":1863.6,"body":"Israel is preparing a full-scale invasion of Gaza."},{"startTime":1864.96,"endTime":1869.84,"body":"And those are the facts of the situation at this point."},{"startTime":1869.84,"endTime":1875.84,"body":"There are two statements I'm going to make that are going to sound"},{"startTime":1875.84,"endTime":1878.88,"body":"contradictory that I believe to be true in this situation."},{"startTime":1878.88,"endTime":1882.24,"body":"Israel absolutely has a right to defend itself."},{"startTime":1882.24,"endTime":1887.44,"body":"If they cross the border into Gaza, they will be committing genocide."},{"startTime":1887.44,"endTime":1890.08,"body":"That's not really contradictory."},{"startTime":1890.08,"endTime":1891.44,"body":"So much."},{"startTime":1892.0,"endTime":1895.2,"body":"Yeah, the right to defend yourself, but as soon as you start invasion,"},{"startTime":1895.2,"endTime":1898.88,"body":"you've switched from defense to offense."},{"startTime":1898.88,"endTime":1900.48,"body":"And if this..."},{"startTime":1900.48,"endTime":1902.0,"body":"Of course, there, you know, it makes sense."},{"startTime":1902.0,"endTime":1905.36,"body":"It's like, okay, if you guys are going to sit on the border and still attack us,"},{"startTime":1905.36,"endTime":1908.0,"body":"then we're just going to eliminate the border or move it."},{"startTime":1908.0,"endTime":1911.44,"body":"And if this was Israel invading Lebanon again,"},{"startTime":1911.44,"endTime":1916.72,"body":"the invasion itself would not be inherently a genocide."},{"startTime":1918.16,"endTime":1923.76,"body":"Gaza is a different situation because you could literally line up bulldozers"},{"startTime":1923.76,"endTime":1927.44,"body":"and wipe it and its population off the map."},{"startTime":1927.44,"endTime":1929.36,"body":"This is nowhere to go."},{"startTime":1929.36,"endTime":1930.16,"body":"There's nowhere to go."},{"startTime":1930.16,"endTime":1931.52,"body":"It's only a couple miles 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moment."},{"startTime":1985.44,"endTime":1985.76,"body":"Yep."},{"startTime":1985.76,"endTime":1988.0,"body":"They also have nowhere to go right now."},{"startTime":1988.0,"endTime":1989.28,"body":"Because right now, they..."},{"startTime":1989.28,"endTime":1990.56,"body":"They might open their hearts and say,"},{"startTime":1990.56,"endTime":1993.92,"body":"come on in, but nobody in Europe,"},{"startTime":1993.92,"endTime":1996.48,"body":"nobody in Africa."},{"startTime":1996.48,"endTime":1997.92,"body":"The Middle East is..."},{"startTime":1997.92,"endTime":1999.52,"body":"Jordan is already cramful."},{"startTime":1999.52,"endTime":2001.12,"body":"Egypt isn't accepting..."},{"startTime":2001.12,"endTime":2003.76,"body":"They've sealed the border."},{"startTime":2004.72,"endTime":2005.2,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2005.2,"endTime":2006.32,"body":"They want the war hit in them either."},{"startTime":2006.32,"endTime":2010.08,"body":"Right now, the US is just trying to negotiate with 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work."},{"startTime":2052.32,"endTime":2054.08,"body":"So..."},{"startTime":2054.08,"endTime":2056.08,"body":"It's a mess."},{"startTime":2056.08,"endTime":2057.28,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2057.28,"endTime":2059.28,"body":"It's a mess and a lot of people"},{"startTime":2059.28,"endTime":2062.08,"body":"have very strong feelings about it on both sides."},{"startTime":2063.04,"endTime":2067.76,"body":"We've heard one or two opinions from sides."},{"startTime":2067.76,"endTime":2070.16,"body":"There are many others that I could"},{"startTime":2070.16,"endTime":2071.36,"body":"just as easily agree with."},{"startTime":2071.36,"endTime":2072.88,"body":"Many that I would disagree with."},{"startTime":2072.88,"endTime":2075.68,"body":"But it's one of those things where this"},{"startTime":2075.68,"endTime":2077.84,"body":"does seem like an unsolvable problem."},{"startTime":2077.84,"endTime":2081.92,"body":"And honestly, from my couch here in 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A whole lot of wrong."},{"startTime":2150.08,"endTime":2151.2,"body":"It is a situation..."},{"startTime":2151.2,"endTime":2153.36,"body":"It's about something that we can all agree on."},{"startTime":2153.36,"endTime":2156.48,"body":"It is a situation where there is so much evil"},{"startTime":2156.48,"endTime":2157.44,"body":"that there is no good."},{"startTime":2157.44,"endTime":2162.48,"body":"Now, one thing speculation-wise on this,"},{"startTime":2162.48,"endTime":2164.8,"body":"why the hell would Hamas do this?"},{"startTime":2164.8,"endTime":2168.48,"body":"They knew, as hard as they hit,"},{"startTime":2168.48,"endTime":2170.72,"body":"that Israel would destroy them."},{"startTime":2170.72,"endTime":2172.08,"body":"Well, I mean,"},{"startTime":2172.08,"endTime":2176.08,"body":"I've been going off a little bit on conspiracy theories with Dustin."},{"startTime":2176.08,"endTime":2178.32,"body":"Every time we talk about this has been brought 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