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<v Neil Silverberg>Let me ask you this morning to open your Bibles to the book of 2 Corinthians, chapter 13,.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And then we're going to read a verse from 1 John, 2 Corinthians 13.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Before I read the Scripture, we are engaged for a few weeks in a glorious study of the person of our God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We're asking a simple question in this series Who is our God?

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<v Neil Silverberg>By the way, i know by now I've now been here for about three months and I know there's two groups of people right now.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There's people that probably are enjoying the teaching and there's some that have a headache, and I understand that, and I'll say two things.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I'll try to be more sensitive to those with a headache, but I want to challenge you to expand your mind, and I hope that you will, because how many discovered when you use your brain really to think, it hurts, and so I am aware of that.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But I'm also aware that I need to be sensitive to our hearers.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So, having said that, theology is for everyone, people say to me I can't understand.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The book of Ephesians or Romans is too deep, and I tell them the people it was read to were illiterate pagans with no college degree.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It was written for Christians, so keep that in mind as you read the Bible when you get overwhelmed And there are things in the Bible not easy to understand.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Don't mistake what I'm saying.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But if you exercise your mind and pray in the Holy Ghost and ask the Lord to open your eyes to the meaning of Scripture and study, which is part of our responsibility, new worlds open up new vistas of understanding.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I like to just get things from God and God gives it, but he also requires us to stretch and grow and study and apply ourselves.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So I know that you can get a headache listening to me, but I would like to challenge you to be expansive.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Right before Shelley and I left Florida, a man came to pick up something from our house.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He was the maintenance guy in our church And he said the first six months I came to the church and sat in your Bible study.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I couldn't understand a word you were saying and you gave me a headache.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I said, oh boy, thank you Jesus, and I know there's people here saying that.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But then he said but I started listening and applying myself and felt by the Spirit I needed this and I needed to be there.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And he said it's changed my life And I don't think that has anything to do with me.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I think it has to do with the decision he made to grow.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now we are studying the person of our God in Scripture And I am not interested in giving you theology so you can become an academic and you can have a fat head and tell people that you know God and others don't.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I am interested in growing in the knowledge of God so we can have a God encounter.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And, by the way, just you need to know that every morning this staff, tuesday through Friday, meets at 9 am and prays for Trinity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We've instituted that over the last two months And we are praying that Trinity chapel.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Every person has a God encounter And that may be a different experience for different people.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That's fine.

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<v Neil Silverberg>God has a lot of experience, but more than that, it has to do with growing in our understanding, through the Scriptures, of who our God is.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And this morning, what I will say will be short and sweet, but it is vital to the knowledge of God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We were so impressed with this attribute of God that we named our church after it.

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<v Neil Silverberg>What do you think I'm going to talk about?

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<v Neil Silverberg>I want to talk about chapels Hey, that's our name.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I want to talk about the blessed Trinity, the fact that our God is the triune God And there is none like Him.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I love the songs that Aaron led us in this morning about the uniqueness of God, and there's a mystery here that I will not solve.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The church for two millennium has not solved it.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It is unlikely that I will.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But I have one aim this morning to expand your understanding to the Trinity so you fall on your face and worship each blessed person of the triune God, the fact that our God is one divine essence subsisting in three blessed persons.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Let's read 2 Corinthians 13, verse 14.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The grace this is Paul's closing benediction to the letter of 2 Corinthians The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And one other verse quickly, one verse in 1 John, chapter 4, verse 16.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God and God abides in Him.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Father, breathe on my meager words this morning and direct your people, by an operation of the power of the Spirit, into the very essence of your triuneness.

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<v Neil Silverberg>God, help us to understand this morning that this is not a mere concept for academics, but it is essential for us to know, if we're to worship and serve you properly, that you exist as three blessed persons.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Open our eyes to see you as you are, as the triune God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We ask it in Jesus' mighty name and everyone said Amen.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In the year 325, the absolute unthinkable occurred in the Christian church.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There was never a Christian that could have anticipated or fathomed what happened.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In 325 AD, a Roman emperor, after confessing allegiance to the Christian faith, convened a council of Christian church bishops in order to settle theological matters and controversies that were raging among the churches in his day.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That Constantine, this Roman emperor, did that and is amazing, especially when you consider that the emperor prior to him persecuted the Christian church bitterly.

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<v Neil Silverberg>His name was Diocletian.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, how did this come about?

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<v Neil Silverberg>We have to go back about 13 years before this council, when Constantine was facing his dreaded enemy, maxentius, for supremacy in the West.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I don't want to bore you with all the history, but it's true And as the story goes, while Constantine was marching towards Rome, he either saw or had a dream.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There's differing counts of the story and some actually say he had a vision And in that vision or dream, whatever it was, he saw the symbol of Christ shining in the sky, above the sun, and he heard the words in this sign conquer.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And he said.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He was immediately instructed to paint the symbol that he had seen in the heavens on the shields of his soldiers.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Well, he did and went out into battle against this enemy, maxentius, and following painting the vision on the symbol on the shields of his soldiers, constantine who, by the way, was outnumbered four to one when he faced Maxentius conquered and defeated his enemy at the Battle of Milvian Bridge.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And you can imagine how Constantine responded to his victory He concluded completely that his victory was related to the vision he had previously seen the night before.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So, upon returning to Rome, constantine issued what was called the Edict of Milan, which had removed all penalties from professing Christians, who were under severe penalties prior, and he returned church property to Christians and he ushered in a new period of tolerance for the Christian church.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, we will never know if the vision that Constantine saw was real.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In fact, we don't really know if he ever was an authentic believer And in fact he wasn't baptized till he was on his deathbed.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But what we do know is the same Roman emperor convened a Christian Council or conference 13 years later, in the year 325.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And here's why he convened the conference.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There was a man in the Christian church who was a bishop in the east.

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<v Neil Silverberg>His name was Arius, and Arius, his teaching, was spreading like wildfire throughout the Christian church.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And that was a problem, because here's what Arius was teaching in the churches in the east He was teaching that there was a time before the Son of God appeared on earth, when the Son of God, when only the Father, existed.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In other words, what Arius was teaching is that the Son of God had a definitive beginning and therefore was not the eternal Son of God, one with the Father from eternity past.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So Constantine, guided more by motivated more by political ambition than theological purity, convened the conference of Nicene, the Nicene Council, in what is today modern Turkey, and bishops came from all over the Roman world.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I want you to reflect in this scene on your mind.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It is fascinating.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I wish I had a Polaroid to show you.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Imagine a Roman bishop excuse me, a Roman emperor receiving Christian bishops sitting in his presence, some of whom, some of these bishops, had the wounds in their bodies from previous persecutions And they are now sitting before a Roman emperor who has convened them to discuss Christian theology.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, there were several things in Nicaea that were discussed, but the central controversy remained around the teachings of this man named Arius.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It all centered around one issue, and I want you to understand that it will segue into our teaching this morning.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The question that the church came together by Constantine to discuss was simply this What was the exact nature of the relationship of the Son to the Father?

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<v Neil Silverberg>And this council met for a good period of time and analyzed that question in the light of the Bible, in the light of apostolic teaching, and the council came to this conclusion.

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<v Neil Silverberg>They affirmed and declared what it believed to be the teaching of the apostles regarding who Jesus Christ, and they came down, thankfully, on the side that Jesus Christ is the one true God in deity with the Father.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And what emerged from Nicaea in the year 325 AD is what could only be called the earliest Trinitarian Creed, a statement from the church that began.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, this wasn't the first time the subject had been discussed.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There were theologians in the second, third century discussing the Trinity, but Nicaea gave us the first creed, the first attempt at the church to formulate this blessed doctrine that there is one God, but that one God eternally exists as three blessed persons.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And I love the Nicene Creed.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This is the creed.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That summarized the teaching It said.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty Maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We believe in one Lord, jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I love this God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made of one being with the Father.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Through him, all things were made for us and for our salvation.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He came down from heaven, was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became truly human.

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<v Neil Silverberg>For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He suffered death and was buried.

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<v Neil Silverberg>On the third day He rose again in accordance with the scriptures.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who, with the Father and Son, is worshiped and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Catholic there just means universal.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come Amen.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, really to summarize it, Nicene simply said in this creed And in other documents they issued, that God eternally exists as three persons Father, son and Holy Spirit, and each person is fully God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Yet there is one God And there is no doctrine.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I have to tell you that is more difficult for Jews than the doctrine of the Trinity, because as Jews we grew up knowing that one thing about our religion that we are fiercely monotheistic.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Monotheistic means we believe there is only one God, and I have talked to my Jewish brethren till I'm blue in the face and they can't get past the Trinity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But what is interesting that I tell Jews that really blows their minds is the greatest statement in the Bible about the oneness of God is Trinitarian, like the holiest verse in Judaism.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you're a Jew I don't know if you ever go to a Jewish home there's a little thing on the door called the mezuzah.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You ever seen it?

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's literally a little container that has Scripture in it and you put it on the doorpost of your house obeying Deuteronomy 6, where God said you shall write these laws on the doorpost of your house And inside the mezuzah is the holiest verse in the Bible for Jews.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You know what it is Deuteronomy 6,4.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Shema Yisrael, adonai Eloheinu, adonai Echad, here, oh, israel, the Lord, our God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Lord is one, and Jews say He's one.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Your Trinity is bankrupt.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Get it out of my face.

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<v Neil Silverberg>God is one, but here's the question I want to bring to you this morning What kind of one is God?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Because the word one.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It is interesting in Hebrew.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There's a word in Hebrew for one, that is the word for absolute numerical oneness.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You're talking about one thing and it's the Hebrew word yachid And it means one, but it really is one, not many becoming one, but just one, like it's used when God said to Abraham take now your son Isaac, your only son, and the word there is yachid.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There's one, you have no other.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But in the verse that Judaism is based on Deuteronomy 6,4, the word for one is not yachid, meaning one thing only, it's echad.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I know I'm really assaulting you with these Hebrew words.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You don't have to write them down, but what I do want you to know is echad.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Echad is a composite one.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's the word Moses used about marriage.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You remember how marriage is defined A man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall be one echad, bosar, echad, one flesh.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Here one is echad because God is describing two things that are separate, yet they are one Man and woman come together.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We learned a little about that in our tech class this morning as Tom was teaching it.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This word echad is always used for compound unity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Moses sent spies to go bring back some fruit from the land, and the Bible says they cut down one cluster of grapes in Hebrew, eskel, echad.

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<v Neil Silverberg>One cluster, yes, one cluster, but many grapes.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Two people, man and woman, one marriage.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I'm looking at one church this morning, but there are many compounded into this oneness.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So even back in Moses day, the very verse that Jews are fiercely, or they use fiercely to protect their doctrine of monotheism, the truth is, that very verse indicates that God is not a yahid, he's an echad.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I'm trying to figure out why.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You thought that was funny.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I thought it was profound.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Okay, now when we come to the New Testament.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The New Testament makes it clear let me go on record you will not find the word trinity in the Bible.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It is not a biblical word, but the concept is biblical and true And you will find it throughout the Scriptures, especially in the New Testament.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But the New Testament goes beyond just simply declaring God is triune.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It actually gives us a philosophical reason why God must be trinity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's one thing to say God is a trinity, but I'm asking you this question this morning why is he triune?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Why must God be more than one person?

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Bible actually answers that in the text we looked at this morning.

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<v Neil Silverberg>John 1, john 4, 16 told us God is love.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now it doesn't say God has love, which is true, but it didn't say that.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It didn't say God has love for people or God is loving to people.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It said God is love.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now I want to blow your mind and ask you a question.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Before God created you and I, before man lived on this earth, in Genesis 1, before there was human beings, how could God be love if there were no human beings to love?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Because love, by its very definition, demands an object.

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<v Neil Silverberg>How many know what love is?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Love is the ability or love is.

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<v Neil Silverberg>When I place someone above myself, when I say I love my wife, i'm placing her above myself, i am saying she is worthy of affection beyond me.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So when you say God is love, you are not merely saying that started when he created.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You are saying that even an eternity passed before there were human beings to be the object of his love.

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<v Neil Silverberg>God is love even then.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But the question is, who did he love?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Because you can't have love unless you have an object to place your love on.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Have I lost you completely?

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<v Neil Silverberg>So the question I want to ask you and maybe CS Lewis stated it best in one of his books when he said quote the words God is love have no real meaning unless God contains at least two persons.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Love is something that one person has for another person.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If God was a single person before the world was, then he was not love.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That is why, if you know nothing else about the Godhead, you know from the Old Testament that the object of Father's love, affection, intimacy, before before he created, was the Son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Son is not just the one who redeems men.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He existed before creation and God was head over heels in love with his Son before human beings were on the planet.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We can see this all through the Scriptures.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Read sometime Proverbs 8.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's amazing how God is.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Father is there and delighting in the Son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now how does the Holy Spirit come on this, this kind of where's he fit in?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Because God is not only Father loving Son and Son loving Father, but there's someone else called the Holy Spirit, and the New Testament says the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now if you want to understand who the Spirit is everybody watch with me.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This is amazing.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You have to understand the love that Father and Son have for each other.

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<v Neil Silverberg>One of the greatest theologians ever to live in America perhaps the best the English world has ever produced was a man named Jonathan Edwards, who was at the height or the center of the first great awakening in the 1700s.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He made the statement that the Father and Son loving and delighting each other creates a society.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He said wherever you have individuals loving each other, a society exists.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In other words, love produces a society.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And then he said in all societies there's an atmosphere, a spirit that exists, a pulsality that vibrates.

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<v Neil Silverberg>How many of you guys felt it yesterday as you were with your fellow men rooting on the voles.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There was a spirit in that room And I was sick in bed, but I was with you in spirit, saying crash Florida.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Believe me, that was my prayer.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I am very depressed, but you know, when men or women get together and they have, they have, you know, they're bound together in affection, for some pause or reason, there's a spirit, there's an atmosphere.

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<v Neil Silverberg>A society produces a spirit and the stronger the ties that bind that society, the stronger is the spirit characterizing that society.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, when we realize listen to this statement when we realize the relationship between the ultimate society, father and son, and that each has an unlimited ability to appreciate fully the perfection of the other and the other's glory and render adoration to the other, we can see why the scriptures speak of that society having a spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But the spirit of that society is so strong that it produces a third person, the blessed Holy Spirit, which, by the way, is why, in Christian theology, the spirit is not an impersonal energy force.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I still get that feeling when I hear people talk about the Holy Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He's sort of like the force in Star Wars Woo, you know, and he's admitted from your hand, you know, put your hand.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But the reality is he, like the father and son, is a person.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Here's my favorite quote in all the world about the Godhead Best thing ever written about the Godhead.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you can figure this out, you've got it Again.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's CS Lewis and he said this quote.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The most, perhaps the most important difference between Christianity and all other religions is that in Christianity, god is not a static thing, or even a person, but a dynamic, pulsating activity, a life, almost a kind of drama If you won't think me a reverent a kind of dance.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The union between the father and son is such a living, concrete thing that this union itself is a person.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I know that's inconceivable, but look at it this way.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You know that among human beings, when they get together in a family or a club or a trade union, people talk about the spirit of that family and club and union.

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<v Neil Silverberg>They talk about its spirit because the individual members, when they're together, do really develop particular ways of talking and behaving which they wouldn't if they were a part.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's as if sort of a communal personality came into existence.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Of course it isn't real.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It isn't a real person, it's only like a person.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But that's the difference between God and us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>What grows out of the joint relationship of the father and son is a real person, in fact the third of the three persons who are God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Wow, did you get that?

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<v Neil Silverberg>No, i don't think anybody could in one reading.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That's why the father and son loving each other from eternity past before creation creates a third person.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If we can call create, we can't use the word create.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's really not true, because a third person didn't appear later, but somehow the spirit is a person who expresses the love between father and son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now here's where you come in, and I'm not leaving you out, because this isn't a theology lesson.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The entire Godhead was involved in your salvation.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The entire Godhead was involved in your salvation.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That's what 2 Corinthians 13-14 says.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Putting it succinctly, you're saved this way The father proposes, the son disposes and the spirit applies.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Or, if you like, the father ordains, the son accomplishes and the spirit makes real.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And 2 Corinthians 13 said this three things about each member of the Godhead's contribution to your salvation in mind.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I want to invert it, the order, a little bit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The love of God, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit are all involved in your salvation in mind.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Love was the motive, grace was the means, fellowship was the goal.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now here's how salvation starts.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It starts with God setting His love on you.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But let me ask you this question.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Don't answer.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's rhetorical.

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<v Neil Silverberg>When did He first set His love on you?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Most Christians I know would say well, the moment I decided to start loving Him, he responded and loved on me.

00:29:50.262 --> 00:29:59.153
<v Neil Silverberg>But that's not biblical, because John said we love because He first loved us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>In fact, the answer to the question when did Father first set His love on you is not when you were conscious of it, but in eternity past.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Listen to Paul in his opening remarks in the letter to the Ephesians Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him In love, he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you don't understand that, one version says it this way, a newer version In love He picked us out as sons to His Father before time began.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Or, if you would, a chapter later when Paul's talking about our salvation.

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<v Neil Silverberg>After talking about how we were dead in trespasses under the Prince of the power of the air, he says now in Ephesians 2, it's the great transition, but, god, if you want to know how you got out of your jam as being a son or daughter of Adam.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It didn't start with you, it started with God, but God, being rich in mercy because of the great love with which He loved us even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ.

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<v Neil Silverberg>By grace, you have been saved.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This verse, and others, in fact a whole new testament, makes it clear that it is Father's love that is the progenitor, the basis of our salvation, and that love which He had for us began before time began.

00:31:58.819 --> 00:32:01.208
<v Neil Silverberg>Here's one of my favorite verses 2 Timothy 1.9.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works, but because of His own purpose and grace, which He gave us in Christ before time began.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Now, if you take that wow, god's love was set on me in eternity past and you join it to what I said about what existed in eternity past, before creation the Father and the Son in this loving society It should blow your minds, because the love that God has for you in eternity past is an extension of the love He has had from eternity for His Son, because here's what happened in eternity past.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Follow this The Father purposed to give His Son a gift, an incredible gift, which later is known as the bride.

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<v Neil Silverberg>See, the father's Jewish and Jewish dads are really sticklers about the bride their sons end up with.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So the father, in his eternal plan, gave the son a wedding gift from eternity past.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Redeemed humanity would be the unique gift that father would give to son, and this humanity would be redeemed by every member of the Godhead, so that all the glory and praise for their redemption went not to them but to the God, the triune God, who redeemed them.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Not only would the son receive this unique gift, he himself would come to earth to accomplish the work that was necessary.

00:33:54.759 --> 00:34:08.797
<v Neil Silverberg>For the gift to be given, the son had to consent to come from the trinity, incarnate in human flesh, and sleep the sleep of death.

00:34:08.797 --> 00:34:15.487
<v Neil Silverberg>Jesus came from the Godhead and slept the sleep of death to redeem us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Sound familiar, adam, and we heard this in our tech class this morning.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's not good for you to be alone, how many know.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Later in Scripture, jesus is called the second Adam, or the last man, and God looks at Adam and the garden says not good for you to be alone.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Oh, really Well, maybe you're going to scoop some dirt up and create another being for me.

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<v Neil Silverberg>No, no, this time you have to sleep and while you sleep I will reach into you and take out of you your bride.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And the Bible reveals that when the second Adam, or the last man, christ, came, he did the same thing the first Adam did He fell asleep.

00:35:02.123 --> 00:35:04.661
<v Neil Silverberg>How many know what sleep represents, in Scripture, death?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Jesus slept and while he slept, father reached in and took out a bride, later to be brought to him in marriage.

00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.581
<v Neil Silverberg>How many know?

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<v Neil Silverberg>right now we're in the preparation for the wedding and we're getting our garments on our white garments, because one day we're going to be reunited to the lover.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We're in the bride, but she came out of him through death.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This is why salvation cannot be attributed to you or I, but to the love of God and the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, his willingness to come and leave eternity and die in obedience to the Father so that through him we would be saved.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Grace is never owed.

00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.523
<v Neil Silverberg>You're not saved this morning because God owed you it.

00:35:54.523 --> 00:36:01.576
<v Neil Silverberg>You're saved by sheer grace of what God did in Christ, and that's to the praise of His glory.

00:36:01.576 --> 00:36:14.728
<v Neil Silverberg>Grace is the Bible word describing God's attitude towards sinners because of the work of His Son.

00:36:14.728 --> 00:36:19.063
<v Neil Silverberg>The work of Jesus makes it possible for God to be gracious to us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I heard someone say it not long ago.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I think God owes everybody.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Once you say oh, when you smuggle the idea of oh into something, guess what you're out of the grace realm.

00:36:32.059 --> 00:36:37.804
<v Neil Silverberg>Grace means you get what you don't deserve, not what you do deserve.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That's why Paul sandwiched in that statement but God being rich in mercy, because it was great love with which he loved us even when we were dead and our trespasses and sin made us alive, together with Christ.

00:36:53.802 --> 00:36:54.576
<v Neil Silverberg>Ps.

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<v Neil Silverberg>By grace you have been saved.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And finally, paul says the love of God, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be yours.

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<v Neil Silverberg>What role does the Holy Spirit play in our salvation?

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Father proposes, the Son disposes and the Spirit applies, makes real.

00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:32.565
<v Neil Silverberg>But the text says the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Everybody listen to me really carefully in this remaining hour and a half.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Okay, i got your attention.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Spirit comes to the heirs of salvation and applies redemption to those heirs of salvation.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Allowing us this blows my mind, but listen.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Spirit comes and indwells the believer so that by the Spirit, we are able to fellowship or participate in the life of the Godhead.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you don't believe that, listen to John's letter.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That which we've seen and heard, we proclaim also to you so that you too may have fellowship with us.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, jesus Christ.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The Holy Spirit is God active on earth, applying the love of God and the work of Jesus to our lives.

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<v Neil Silverberg>His first work is called regeneration.

00:38:43.224 --> 00:38:44.217
<v Neil Silverberg>You were dead.

00:38:44.217 --> 00:38:45.300
<v Neil Silverberg>You were dead.

00:38:45.300 --> 00:38:46.824
<v Neil Silverberg>You weren't sick, you were dead.

00:38:46.824 --> 00:38:50.164
<v Neil Silverberg>And the Holy Spirit comes and He makes you alive.

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<v Neil Silverberg>How many remember that moment you were regenerated.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I used to tell people I went in a room having never thought about God in Christ at all, and I've left that room and I haven't thought of anything else for 40 years, not because I'm smart, but because I was regenerated.

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<v Neil Silverberg>The life of God made me alive, the Spirit made me alive, and then the Spirit indwells us, and when He indwells us, he does so permanently, so we can enter a life of fellowship with the Godhead, the love of God, the grace of our Lord Jesus, the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It is fellowship with the Father and the Son through the Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Think about this, beloved, as we close.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You have been invited by the Spirit into the fellowship of the Godhead, because God set His love on you in eternity past and His grace, through Jesus, is available and He redeemed you and quickened you and indwells you by the Spirit so you might have actual fellowship with God and His Son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Is that what's happening in your life right now?

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<v Neil Silverberg>It should be.

00:40:05.836 --> 00:40:10.704
<v Neil Silverberg>Are you experiencing the fellowship of the Father and the Son?

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<v Neil Silverberg>I mean, there are people in this room right now who've never heard the word fellowship used, apart from what we're about to do at the coffee bar, which is legitimate.

00:40:24.355 --> 00:40:31.068
<v Neil Silverberg>But our fellowship, john says, is not only with us, but with the Father and the Son.

00:40:31.068 --> 00:40:34.704
<v Neil Silverberg>How's your fellowship with the Father and Son?

00:40:34.704 --> 00:40:39.152
<v Neil Silverberg>You know, if you're in Christ, it's your inheritance.

00:40:39.152 --> 00:40:43.063
<v Neil Silverberg>It's more than relationship.

00:40:43.063 --> 00:40:50.628
<v Neil Silverberg>You know, being a dad, i've discovered something that I have a relationship with my sons.

00:40:50.628 --> 00:40:51.318
<v Neil Silverberg>I'm their dad.

00:40:51.318 --> 00:40:53.878
<v Neil Silverberg>They didn't get to vote on that.

00:40:53.878 --> 00:40:59.121
<v Neil Silverberg>I'm dad And that relationship will never change.

00:40:59.121 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Neil Silverberg>I will always be dad.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It cannot change.

00:41:01.938 --> 00:41:08.067
<v Neil Silverberg>But I've discovered that relationship is one thing but fellowship is another.

00:41:08.067 --> 00:41:12.827
<v Neil Silverberg>How many dads have learned you can have a relationship father to son with your dads.

00:41:12.827 --> 00:41:14.920
<v Neil Silverberg>It doesn't mean you're having fellowship.

00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:31.668
<v Neil Silverberg>Something occurs, something offends, something makes you pull back and you discover and there are people in this room, maybe that have had that problem with others besides your kids and you discover you have a relationship where brothers and sisters, but there's no fellowship.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And what, john, i'm sorry?

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<v Neil Silverberg>what the text in Corinthians is telling us is that our fellowship is with the father and the son, and every believer who's regenerated and indwelt by the spirit has fellowship with the father or son.

00:41:47.146 --> 00:41:50.860
<v Neil Silverberg>You may not be living in it, in its reality, you may not be cultivating it.

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<v Neil Silverberg>You may be, you know, more interested in TV than you are God and the son, but the thing that will change your Christian life is when, in the spirit, you begin to be stirred up to recognize wait a minute, i'm called to intimate fellowship with father and son, and I'm letting the pursuits of this world seduce me rather than father and son.

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<v Neil Silverberg>May you come alive this morning to the incredible potential of fellowship with God and his son available to you.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's more than emotion, although emotions are part of it.

00:42:29.684 --> 00:42:34.246
<v Neil Silverberg>I'm glad for emotions, but it's the reality and it's activated by faith.

00:42:34.594 --> 00:42:39.025
<v Neil Silverberg>If you're a Christian, you don't enter this by cultivating an emotion.

00:42:39.025 --> 00:42:42.442
<v Neil Silverberg>First You enter it by faith and say wait a minute.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Fellowship is my heritage.

00:42:44.146 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Neil Silverberg>It's the result of being saved and the Holy Spirit starts stirring you to begin to pursue fellowship with God.

00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.324
<v Neil Silverberg>It becomes the most important thing in your life.

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<v Neil Silverberg>So you're sitting here this morning because of the love of God and because of the grace of the Lord, jesus Christ, and if you're born again, you've had fellowship with the father and son, even if it's that initial experience of regeneration.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But oh, oh, oh.

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<v Neil Silverberg>There's so much more.

00:43:23.394 --> 00:43:29.266
<v Neil Silverberg>I was reading an account yesterday of a man powerfully used in evangelism.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This man had an anointing of the spirit on his life in the 18th century, but he was describing the fellowship he enjoyed with the father and the son And God was using him to save thousands in the 1700s.

00:43:45.965 --> 00:43:57.947
<v Neil Silverberg>But the thing that he talked about whenever he wrote letters in his journal was the incredible fellowship he was experiencing with the father and the son in this new anointing that God gave him.

00:43:57.947 --> 00:44:01.141
<v Neil Silverberg>The Holy Spirit is more than your makeup man.

00:44:01.141 --> 00:44:05.643
<v Neil Silverberg>He's not the one that just makes you up so you look good in church.

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<v Neil Silverberg>He is the one who connects you to God so that you're living at the throne, so that the person of God and the son are becoming more real to you than any human being on earth.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Join with me If you hear this morning maybe all these words are far into you and you've never heard anything like this But this the love of God, the grace of our Lord Jesus, the fellowship of the Holy Spirit is what being a Christian is about.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And if your heart's stirring you this morning and you feel an awakening as I've shared this and maybe there's something in you that says I would like to know God like that I didn't know that was, i thought religion was about going to church and being religious, but I want a relationship with God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you feel a drawing towards that, i'm going to have you come in a minute and talk to one of these prayer partners as we close the service.

00:45:06.445 --> 00:45:16.382
<v Neil Silverberg>There are people here and we are training them and they are trained already and they can talk to you about what's involved in knowing God in this capacity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We all in this room who are Christians had a moment where we became conscious that we were being drawn to the Christian gospel.

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<v Neil Silverberg>This is a moment you will never have.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Can I ask the prayer team to come up quickly?

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<v Neil Silverberg>please Just come.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Those of you on the team that are here.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We're going to close this meeting.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I'm going to release you to God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But listen, two things are happening in this room.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Number one I just spoke to when the service ends, and if you're here with friends and you want prayer or you feel that's stirring, don't worry about it.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Tell your friends I need to talk to somebody and you can talk to people.

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<v Neil Silverberg>That maybe brought you.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But this is an opportunity.

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<v Neil Silverberg>These people will pray with you, they will counsel you, as well as other prayer needs that you might have this morning Prayers for healing, for things.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We're going to see the Lord move here and we're going to open the altar in a minute.

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<v Neil Silverberg>But the other thing is, if you're a Christian here this morning, i really want to ask you is fellowship with God the priority of your life?

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<v Neil Silverberg>Is that really where you're living?

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<v Neil Silverberg>If not, repent this morning, maybe you need to come up and get prayer for and just say I need to make some decisions about my Christian life because I'm not living out what I need to.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I don't spend time in God's Word.

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<v Neil Silverberg>It's not precious to me.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I don't pray, i don't have a desire to read Christian books.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Maybe you've become worldly and you're seduced by the filth of this world which has robbed you of your inheritance.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Come up as well.

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<v Neil Silverberg>We're going to pray and end the service and I'd like to say that I'll meet all the guests at our coffee bar.

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<v Neil Silverberg>If you're going to come back, we want to meet with you and give you a free gift.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Let's pray.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Father, in the name of Jesus, i thank you for the privilege to speak these holy things, and I pray for two things this morning Draw people to Emmanuel this morning, spirit of God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>Draw men and women to Emmanuel's side, to the Father's love, to the grace of the Lord Jesus and to the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I pray for those in the room this morning that have not been converted, who've never been transformed by the regenerating power of the Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I pray this morning that they will talk to us and, if not us, the people who brought them and say I want this relationship with God.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I just pray that the miracle of regeneration happen all through this building, by a work of your Spirit.

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<v Neil Silverberg>And I pray for Christians this morning, lord, who've sold out, whose fellowship has been soiled by the filth of this world.

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<v Neil Silverberg>I pray that this morning they would repent and turn to you and change in this moment by the power of the Spirit, and everyone said Amen.
