WEBVTT

00:00:04.107 --> 00:00:08.335
<v Scott Wiens>How many of you have read the book Case for Christ by a guy named Lee Strobel?

00:00:08.335 --> 00:00:09.404
<v Scott Wiens>How many of you read that book?

00:00:09.404 --> 00:00:11.787
<v Scott Wiens>It's a fairly common book that's been out for quite a while.

00:00:11.787 --> 00:00:21.585
<v Scott Wiens>It is a true story of a man who did not know Jesus was not a believer, was a devout atheist if you could call it an atheist devout.

00:00:21.585 --> 00:00:37.753
<v Scott Wiens>And his wife came to Christ and that really miffed him, and so he was an investigative research journalist and he said I'm going to set out to disprove Jesus Christ.

00:00:37.753 --> 00:00:39.786
<v Scott Wiens>That's what I'm going to do.

00:00:39.786 --> 00:00:49.808
<v Scott Wiens>And so he began to apply all of the different techniques to go through and try to disprove that Jesus was an actual man that lived and died and was resurrected.

00:00:49.808 --> 00:00:53.966
<v Scott Wiens>Interesting enough, he couldn't.

00:00:53.966 --> 00:01:02.985
<v Scott Wiens>And it was a really powerful book and it's been used to really bring Christ to a lot of people, a lot of people to Christ.

00:01:03.860 --> 00:01:18.390
<v Scott Wiens>But there was a movie made out of it a few years back, called by the same name, case for Christ, and there's a really powerful scene at the end of this movie where he has exhausted all his ability to try to disprove and he's finally giving in.

00:01:18.390 --> 00:01:25.114
<v Scott Wiens>He's giving in and so he comes home and remember his wife had already become a Christian.

00:01:25.114 --> 00:01:32.786
<v Scott Wiens>And he comes home and he comes in and she's in the living room and he sits down on the couch beside her and he said I give up.

00:01:32.786 --> 00:01:42.706
<v Scott Wiens>And of course, she's overwhelmed because she's been praying for him all this time, right, and he's like I give up.

00:01:42.706 --> 00:01:47.001
<v Scott Wiens>He's real, he did live, he did die.

00:01:47.001 --> 00:01:50.865
<v Scott Wiens>And he said what do I do now?

00:01:50.865 --> 00:01:55.007
<v Scott Wiens>Now, what's so beautiful about that phrase what do I do now?

00:01:55.007 --> 00:02:06.748
<v Scott Wiens>Is it sounds an awful lot like Acts 2, when Peter preaches that powerful sermon on Pentecost and they said our hearts are torn.

00:02:06.748 --> 00:02:08.467
<v Scott Wiens>What do we do now?

00:02:08.467 --> 00:02:10.044
<v Scott Wiens>I mean, what do we do?

00:02:10.044 --> 00:02:11.628
<v Scott Wiens>And what did he say?

00:02:11.628 --> 00:02:14.901
<v Scott Wiens>He said repent and be baptized, and it was.

00:02:14.901 --> 00:02:19.250
<v Scott Wiens>What was so beautiful, though, about the movie part was that she said we pray.

00:02:19.250 --> 00:02:50.969
<v Scott Wiens>This man had no background in Christianity, no background in prayer, and so she gets on her knees, he gets on his knees and he says this very awkward but beautiful prayer he encounters God for the first time in prayer, and some of you who may have been like him and had never knew anything about God, who encountered him for the first time like that, you might be able to relate to him.

00:02:50.969 --> 00:02:58.987
<v Scott Wiens>I grew up praying because everybody in my church prayed, so that's how we grew up praying, but it was really a powerful moment.

00:03:00.161 --> 00:03:17.751
<v Scott Wiens>And so we're in the middle of a sermon series that we've entitled Encounter, in which we're examining the different ways that the early church encountered God, and Acts 2.42 has been our key verse for this, and it's talking about what the early church, the characteristics of the early church and what they did.

00:03:17.751 --> 00:03:30.550
<v Scott Wiens>And it says in verse 42, they were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship and to the breaking of bread and to prayer, and we've heard messages on three of these things so far.

00:03:30.550 --> 00:03:43.447
<v Scott Wiens>Kelly kicked it off by talking about Encountering God through the scripture, which was again a wonderful passage, because I mean, the disciples, the apostles, were teaching from the scripture, scriptures right Through Encountering God through relationships.

00:03:43.447 --> 00:03:56.984
<v Scott Wiens>Tyler taught on that, and then last week Tyler taught on baptism and the Lord's Supper, which we could call the sacraments, and so now we're going to be talking about prayer and how the early church encountered God through prayer.

00:03:56.984 --> 00:04:21.430
<v Scott Wiens>Now I want to do this by looking at the first chapter in Philippians, and the reason being is because the apostle Paul recorded a prayer for the church in Philippi that was beautiful, and in that prayer there's really four powerful elements of Encountering God through prayer that I want to highlight today and face it.

00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:31.307
<v Scott Wiens>The apostle Paul was one of those teachers that taught the early church how to pray and he recorded those and therefore we need to go through that.

00:04:31.307 --> 00:04:35.810
<v Scott Wiens>So let me just make a couple of comments about this before we dive in.

00:04:35.810 --> 00:04:48.350
<v Scott Wiens>So the apostle Paul, he wrote four prison epistles and you probably are familiar with the concept of a prison epistle, right, he was Ephesians, philippians, colossians and Philemon.

00:04:48.350 --> 00:04:52.399
<v Scott Wiens>These were the philemon, depending on how you want to pronounce that Now.

00:04:52.399 --> 00:05:03.069
<v Scott Wiens>He was in prison in Rome, a pretty bad place, a tough place to be, but it gave him and afforded him time to write these beautiful epistles.

00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:18.247
<v Scott Wiens>In the first three of these books there are sections that theologians have identified and biblical scholars have identified as Paul's prison prayers, his prison prayers, because what he does is he writes the epistle.

00:05:18.247 --> 00:05:27.185
<v Scott Wiens>He begins in this introduction by saying this is basically how I pray for you, and it was just beautiful and these are so rich in meaning.

00:05:27.185 --> 00:05:34.204
<v Scott Wiens>And so when I got this assignment, I was looking at verse 42 of Acts 2 and I'm thinking so how did the early church pray?

00:05:34.204 --> 00:05:37.024
<v Scott Wiens>Well, I know how they prayed.

00:05:37.024 --> 00:05:46.125
<v Scott Wiens>They prayed how they were taught to pray, and if these were the men like Paul that taught them to pray, we know that of course he followed what Jesus taught them to pray.

00:05:46.125 --> 00:05:54.089
<v Scott Wiens>But I'm like there's no better place than to look at a prayer that was recorded as a part of a teaching and an encouragement to this church.

00:05:54.089 --> 00:06:01.509
<v Scott Wiens>So, with that as a focus, let's just jump into the passage we're going to cover and use as the main text today Philippians 1, verses 3 through 11.

00:06:02.701 --> 00:06:08.247
<v Scott Wiens>I thank my God and this is the ESV, by the way, and the first parts worded a little bit awkwardly, but we'll walk through it, you'll understand it.

00:06:08.247 --> 00:06:29.805
<v Scott Wiens>I thank my God in all my remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine, for you all, making my prayer with joy because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, and I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

00:06:29.805 --> 00:07:01.370
<v Scott Wiens>It is right for me to feel this way about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel for God is my witness how I yearn for all, for you, all, with the affection of Christ Jesus, and it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more with knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve what is excellent and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ.

00:07:01.370 --> 00:07:09.749
<v Scott Wiens>And finally, verse 11, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God.

00:07:09.749 --> 00:07:16.326
<v Scott Wiens>Father, as we come before you now with this precious word opened in front of us, father, we ask that you would speak to us.

00:07:16.326 --> 00:07:23.060
<v Scott Wiens>Father, we know that you want a relationship with us and you want us to encounter you through prayer.

00:07:23.060 --> 00:07:27.105
<v Scott Wiens>We know that because it's so clear in Scripture.

00:07:27.105 --> 00:07:33.050
<v Scott Wiens>We know that because, when Christ died, that the veil of the temple was torn from the top to the bottom.

00:07:33.050 --> 00:07:46.810
<v Scott Wiens>You open up this avenue for us, and so, father, as we look at what the apostle Paul taught, may it convict us, father, may it convict us to pray as you intended and how you taught.

00:07:46.810 --> 00:07:51.209
<v Scott Wiens>And so we pray this and we ask this in Christ's name, amen.

00:07:51.209 --> 00:08:01.925
<v Scott Wiens>So this is a wonderful passage of Scripture and if you're like me and you read this, if you're a teacher, you go okay, there's about a dozen sermons right there in those first 11 verses, right.

00:08:01.925 --> 00:08:08.033
<v Scott Wiens>But I read through this and I read through it again and again and again and I began to see themes that came out and I want to focus on them.

00:08:08.033 --> 00:08:15.805
<v Scott Wiens>So there's four themes and the first one is thankfulness, and it really begins in that first verse thankfulness.

00:08:15.805 --> 00:08:18.747
<v Scott Wiens>I thank my God in all my remembrance of you.

00:08:18.747 --> 00:08:24.480
<v Scott Wiens>The New Living Translation says this way every time I think of you, I give thanks to God.

00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:33.384
<v Scott Wiens>Now, the concept of thankfulness and prayer would not have been foreign, especially to the Jewish converts.

00:08:33.384 --> 00:08:40.982
<v Scott Wiens>In fact, in many, many Jewish prayers, thankfulness was really the key part of it.

00:08:40.982 --> 00:08:47.288
<v Scott Wiens>From the very beginning, jews used to use the term we bless you, lord, in many of their prayers.

00:08:47.288 --> 00:08:54.248
<v Scott Wiens>We bless you, lord, and it's not we bless you in the concept that a lot of us might think of in the American church.

00:08:54.248 --> 00:08:57.970
<v Scott Wiens>We think about blessing as conferring a blessing on somebody.

00:08:57.970 --> 00:09:10.206
<v Scott Wiens>It was very different in the way the Jews use it, because the word bless is the Hebrew word barak and it literally means to kneel and it shows an attitude of worship and an attitude of thankfulness.

00:09:10.206 --> 00:09:12.625
<v Scott Wiens>It's kneeling before God.

00:09:12.625 --> 00:09:13.929
<v Scott Wiens>We bless you, lord.

00:09:13.929 --> 00:09:23.047
<v Scott Wiens>In Deuteronomy 8, verses 11 through 12, moses stated this, and I think this was really important to understand this attitude of thankfulness.

00:09:23.047 --> 00:09:30.946
<v Scott Wiens>He says when you have eaten and are satisfied, you shall bless the Lord, your God, for the good land which he has given you.

00:09:30.946 --> 00:09:36.849
<v Scott Wiens>Beware this is interesting beware that you do not forget the Lord, your God.

00:09:36.849 --> 00:09:48.128
<v Scott Wiens>Thankfulness was a way not to forget who God was, that he was the one that provided everything, and so this attitude of thankfulness was there.

00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:56.945
<v Scott Wiens>Now, many of the Jewish prayers were memorized prayers and they were used and given and prayed at very specific times.

00:09:56.945 --> 00:10:02.448
<v Scott Wiens>How many of you had the blessing to be able to be a part of a Seder service of any kind?

00:10:02.448 --> 00:10:07.644
<v Scott Wiens>Neal's been, he's done Seder services here multiple times and I think we're overdue.

00:10:07.644 --> 00:10:08.964
<v Scott Wiens>By the way, we need to do another one.

00:10:08.964 --> 00:10:15.701
<v Scott Wiens>Neal, we are Well see there, that was prophetic or pathetic.

00:10:15.701 --> 00:10:16.605
<v Scott Wiens>I didn't read the schedule.

00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:30.407
<v Scott Wiens>Well, part of the Seder is the blessing of the different elements, and one is the blessing of the wine, and this is a really good example of this exact concept of how the Jews would bless the Lord.

00:10:30.407 --> 00:10:39.908
<v Scott Wiens>And I'm gonna speak to Hebrew, and I got coached a little bit between the first service and now to get some of the words right by Rick and Neal.

00:10:39.908 --> 00:10:40.750
<v Scott Wiens>So it's still not.

00:10:40.750 --> 00:10:43.323
<v Scott Wiens>It's still gonna have a Canadian ring to it, so forgive me for this.

00:10:43.323 --> 00:10:57.764
<v Scott Wiens>So the Hebrew blessing goes like this Baruch hatha adonai Elohenu halolom boriya pareh hagafin, should have just given you the mic.

00:10:57.764 --> 00:11:05.907
<v Scott Wiens>Not bad, not bad for Canadian right, but it literally means blessed.

00:11:05.907 --> 00:11:10.889
<v Scott Wiens>Are you, lord, our God, king of the universe, who creates the fruit of the vine?

00:11:10.889 --> 00:11:12.462
<v Scott Wiens>And this is.

00:11:12.462 --> 00:11:16.027
<v Scott Wiens>It was repeated and they've been saying this prayer for hundreds of years.

00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:22.967
<v Scott Wiens>So the concept of being thankful in prayer was something the apostle Paul was very familiar with.

00:11:22.967 --> 00:11:25.126
<v Scott Wiens>He prayed these prayers.

00:11:25.126 --> 00:11:34.788
<v Scott Wiens>I mean again, he was a Pharisee of the Pharisees, right, he knew all this right, and it was an expression of thankfulness that he carried over now into his salvation.

00:11:34.788 --> 00:11:36.986
<v Scott Wiens>But just think of Paul.

00:11:36.986 --> 00:11:49.325
<v Scott Wiens>Remember, he was, you know, taught at the feet of Gimeliel, right, he was a Pharisee of Pharisees and all that stuff, but he didn't have the love of Christ, he didn't have the Holy Spirit.

00:11:49.325 --> 00:12:03.030
<v Scott Wiens>And when all that happened to him, when God changed him, can you imagine how his thankfulness, these prayers that he recited more, maybe out of obligation, suddenly now became sincere, powerful prayers of thankfulness.

00:12:03.030 --> 00:12:05.187
<v Scott Wiens>It would have been a tremendous change that he went through.

00:12:06.139 --> 00:12:09.205
<v Scott Wiens>And Paul's prayer to the Ephesians again, remember the prison pistols.

00:12:09.205 --> 00:12:11.246
<v Scott Wiens>Three of them had these prayers that were recorded.

00:12:11.246 --> 00:12:17.168
<v Scott Wiens>It echoes this same Thanksgiving In Ephesians one, versus 15 through 16, this is what it says.

00:12:17.168 --> 00:12:28.485
<v Scott Wiens>For this reason, because I have heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love towards all the saints, I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you and my prayers.

00:12:28.485 --> 00:12:30.182
<v Scott Wiens>He's teaching them.

00:12:30.182 --> 00:12:36.370
<v Scott Wiens>I pray for you all the time and they should then pray for others the same way.

00:12:36.370 --> 00:12:37.844
<v Scott Wiens>So he's teaching that.

00:12:38.299 --> 00:12:40.066
<v Scott Wiens>Now, what do we thank God for?

00:12:40.066 --> 00:12:45.249
<v Scott Wiens>Well, I don't know if you're like me, but I could pray all the time just thanking God.

00:12:45.249 --> 00:12:46.745
<v Scott Wiens>There's so much to be thankful for.

00:12:46.745 --> 00:12:54.145
<v Scott Wiens>I mean, I think most importantly I thank him for the calling for opening my mind up, realizing I was dead in my sins.

00:12:54.145 --> 00:12:55.107
<v Scott Wiens>I couldn't respond.

00:12:55.107 --> 00:12:56.884
<v Scott Wiens>It's not like I heard something go.

00:12:56.884 --> 00:12:57.687
<v Scott Wiens>That sounds good.

00:12:57.687 --> 00:13:00.606
<v Scott Wiens>He literally had to raise me from the dead.

00:13:00.606 --> 00:13:13.907
<v Scott Wiens>Okay, he opened my mind to understand the gospel and then the resulting salvation, that every morning I wake up under this beautiful umbrella of salvation that informs everything I do every day.

00:13:13.907 --> 00:13:16.466
<v Scott Wiens>But I also thank God for my family.

00:13:16.466 --> 00:13:22.605
<v Scott Wiens>I thank God for my job, I thank God for the provision, I thank him for all the goodness he's done.

00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.408
<v Scott Wiens>But what was Paul thanking God for here?

00:13:27.408 --> 00:13:34.370
<v Scott Wiens>Specifically Cause all those are good, but he was thanking God for the church.

00:13:34.370 --> 00:13:37.885
<v Scott Wiens>He was thanking God for the church.

00:13:37.885 --> 00:13:42.764
<v Scott Wiens>You know, for most of us, if it wasn't for the church, we wouldn't have heard the gospel.

00:13:42.764 --> 00:13:53.390
<v Scott Wiens>We wouldn't have heard the gospel, we wouldn't have been transformed the way we were and have been thanking God for the church.

00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.068
<v Scott Wiens>And as I read this, I began really to be convicted.

00:13:56.068 --> 00:13:56.701
<v Scott Wiens>I'll be honest.

00:13:56.701 --> 00:14:06.941
<v Scott Wiens>I mean, I pray for the church, but not as much as I need to pray for the church, and I don't pray in thankfulness for the church as much as I should Remember.

00:14:06.941 --> 00:14:10.384
<v Scott Wiens>You know, every time we preach we always say the sermon first preached to the preacher.

00:14:10.384 --> 00:14:12.946
<v Scott Wiens>Right, and I do really get convicted of this.

00:14:12.946 --> 00:14:20.625
<v Scott Wiens>I'm like, and I pray for people in the church, but I just realized there was a passion that he had here that needs to be reflected in me as well.

00:14:20.625 --> 00:14:30.625
<v Scott Wiens>He was focused so deeply on the people in the church and you see it all through his writings.

00:14:30.625 --> 00:14:36.927
<v Scott Wiens>You know, at the end he names people my name, thank them for this and that he was so focused on that.

00:14:36.927 --> 00:14:56.888
<v Scott Wiens>You know, in Ephesians 4, paul was talking about excuse me, ephesians 5, paul's talking about the relationship in a marriage, right, and if you read that section in Ephesians 5, what's really neat is three or four times in that he says like Christ and the church, like Christ and the church, christ in the church.

00:14:57.740 --> 00:15:04.082
<v Scott Wiens>And there is a significant anti-church movement that is spread through Christians and we understand why.

00:15:04.082 --> 00:15:06.210
<v Scott Wiens>I'll prove why.

00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:10.626
<v Scott Wiens>How many people here have ever been hurt or offended by a church?

00:15:10.626 --> 00:15:14.105
<v Scott Wiens>Oh no, how many of you are not.

00:15:14.105 --> 00:15:21.355
<v Scott Wiens>Being honest, I've had to repent this week of things I've done and said.

00:15:21.355 --> 00:15:33.350
<v Scott Wiens>The church we are not perfect and we make mistakes, but yet the church is Christ's body.

00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:35.565
<v Scott Wiens>He loves the church.

00:15:35.565 --> 00:15:45.936
<v Scott Wiens>When he returns, as Aaron was preaching, when he returns, he's going to, he's going to greet his bride, and who's the bride?

00:15:45.936 --> 00:15:46.788
<v Scott Wiens>It's the church.

00:15:46.788 --> 00:15:50.171
<v Scott Wiens>The great wedding feast why didn't you say we're going to have a party?

00:15:50.171 --> 00:15:51.750
<v Scott Wiens>He said, no, we're going to have a wedding feast.

00:15:52.264 --> 00:16:05.871
<v Scott Wiens>Because that is the unity that we have and as a body of Christ, we need in our personal corporate prayers to include thankfulness, not just for what God's given us individually, but what God has given us in the church.

00:16:05.871 --> 00:16:11.311
<v Scott Wiens>I can't tell you how blessed my wife and I are to be a part of Trinity Community Church.

00:16:11.311 --> 00:16:28.369
<v Scott Wiens>We constantly tell each other how blessed we are that God brought us here, the friends that we've made, the people that have been able to speak into our lives and love us even though we make mistakes and fall down, and they're there for us, they love us and it's just beautiful.

00:16:28.369 --> 00:16:39.908
<v Scott Wiens>So if we want to encounter God in a powerful way, through prayer, we should be expressing thankfulness to him for both the blessings that he's given us, but also thank him for the body of Christ that he's placed us in.

00:16:39.908 --> 00:16:41.955
<v Scott Wiens>That's important.

00:16:42.085 --> 00:16:45.475
<v Scott Wiens>So, number two what was the second part of this prayer?

00:16:45.475 --> 00:16:53.115
<v Scott Wiens>That quality of prayer we're encountering the Lord, and that is prayer should involve an expression of joy.

00:16:53.115 --> 00:16:55.753
<v Scott Wiens>Again, I'm going to pick up in verse three where we started.

00:16:55.753 --> 00:16:57.972
<v Scott Wiens>I thank my God and all my remembrance of you.

00:16:57.972 --> 00:17:04.569
<v Scott Wiens>Verse four always in every prayer of mine for you all making my prayer with joy.

00:17:04.569 --> 00:17:11.792
<v Scott Wiens>Making my prayer with joy Hmm, making my prayer with joy.

00:17:12.565 --> 00:17:18.277
<v Scott Wiens>It's interesting, he said he literally formed his prayers based on joy.

00:17:18.277 --> 00:17:25.670
<v Scott Wiens>Based on joy you know the word joy appears 16 times in various forms within the book of Philippians.

00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:31.868
<v Scott Wiens>If you're ever down and just feeling down in the dumps, just read Philippians, galatians might be a little hard.

00:17:31.868 --> 00:17:40.673
<v Scott Wiens>A lot of correction in the Galatians, but this one is just so filled with joy and a lot of people will say that book of Philippians.

00:17:40.673 --> 00:17:45.431
<v Scott Wiens>There's such an expression of joy here and love, and we'll talk about that in a minute.

00:17:46.565 --> 00:17:55.872
<v Scott Wiens>You know, paul and the other apostles taught that the members of the early church should encounter God through this expression of joy and that joy really comes from one place.

00:17:55.872 --> 00:17:57.770
<v Scott Wiens>It comes from here.

00:17:57.770 --> 00:18:12.555
<v Scott Wiens>And it comes from here because when you became a follower of Jesus Christ, when he imparted salvation to you and you were filled with the Holy Spirit, it says in the whole Testament.

00:18:12.555 --> 00:18:23.772
<v Scott Wiens>It says your heart of flesh or your heart of stone has turned to a heart of flesh and you now have this capacity for joy, a capacity for joy that you didn't have before.

00:18:23.772 --> 00:18:26.150
<v Scott Wiens>Now it's interesting.

00:18:26.150 --> 00:18:29.012
<v Scott Wiens>When you look at that you say, well, what's this capacity for joy?

00:18:29.012 --> 00:18:30.349
<v Scott Wiens>Well, I'll tell you.

00:18:30.349 --> 00:18:32.950
<v Scott Wiens>The apostle Paul just didn't say this.

00:18:32.950 --> 00:18:34.554
<v Scott Wiens>He lived this.

00:18:34.554 --> 00:18:47.173
<v Scott Wiens>He lived this, he had joy in his life and I realized, by the way that expressing joy is difficult when we're experiencing trials and tests.

00:18:47.173 --> 00:18:52.527
<v Scott Wiens>But it's possible, in fact.

00:18:52.527 --> 00:18:57.134
<v Scott Wiens>Not just possible, it is an evidence of what Christ has done in your heart.

00:18:58.045 --> 00:19:00.492
<v Scott Wiens>For instance, in James 1, verse two.

00:19:00.492 --> 00:19:04.032
<v Scott Wiens>We all know this one count it all joy when you fall into various trials.

00:19:04.032 --> 00:19:07.625
<v Scott Wiens>What, what?

00:19:07.625 --> 00:19:15.851
<v Scott Wiens>I don't know if you're like me, but when I fall into a various trial, it's usually not the first thing on my lips Thank you, lord for this trial.

00:19:15.851 --> 00:19:22.252
<v Scott Wiens>I wish it was, and a lot of times it's my second, but it's hard sometimes to that be my first one.

00:19:22.252 --> 00:19:30.214
<v Scott Wiens>You know you have a car wreck and you're like thank you Lord for that truck that just cut me off and threw me down that embankment.

00:19:30.214 --> 00:19:38.664
<v Scott Wiens>When I say, when I talk about joy, I'm not talking about that, you understand what I'm saying is it informs, it's overarching.

00:19:38.664 --> 00:19:46.596
<v Scott Wiens>You have the concept and the understanding that everything God's doing has a purpose and he will bring great things out of it.

00:19:48.469 --> 00:19:54.536
<v Scott Wiens>In Acts 16, 25, paul, there's an account with Paul and Silas in a prison.

00:19:54.536 --> 00:19:57.307
<v Scott Wiens>Okay, and I love this scripture.

00:19:57.307 --> 00:20:01.451
<v Scott Wiens>It says around midnight remember, paul and Silas are sitting in a prison.

00:20:01.451 --> 00:20:05.093
<v Scott Wiens>They've probably been whipped so they got open wounds.

00:20:05.093 --> 00:20:06.848
<v Scott Wiens>They're probably cold.

00:20:06.848 --> 00:20:08.365
<v Scott Wiens>They're sitting there, they got.

00:20:08.365 --> 00:20:09.611
<v Scott Wiens>They're probably chained together.

00:20:09.611 --> 00:20:12.708
<v Scott Wiens>It's not a happy place.

00:20:12.708 --> 00:20:14.192
<v Scott Wiens>They're probably hungry, cold.

00:20:15.345 --> 00:20:21.173
<v Scott Wiens>Around midnight, paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God say what?

00:20:21.173 --> 00:20:26.448
<v Scott Wiens>That's what they were doing and I love what it says.

00:20:26.448 --> 00:20:29.035
<v Scott Wiens>And the other prisoners were listening.

00:20:29.035 --> 00:20:32.211
<v Scott Wiens>Why did he have to record that?

00:20:32.211 --> 00:20:35.472
<v Scott Wiens>Of course they were right there in the next cell.

00:20:35.472 --> 00:20:36.409
<v Scott Wiens>Of course they were listening.

00:20:36.944 --> 00:20:38.211
<v Scott Wiens>I tell you why I think this is.

00:20:38.211 --> 00:20:42.593
<v Scott Wiens>I can't prove it scripturally, but I tell you why I think that detail is there.

00:20:42.593 --> 00:20:48.709
<v Scott Wiens>Remember, luke, you know, very detailed, very detail-minded.

00:20:48.709 --> 00:21:01.951
<v Scott Wiens>I think what it was is because they weren't just hearing, they were listening, meaning what Paul and Silas were doing was having an impact on these people that were there beside them.

00:21:01.951 --> 00:21:12.290
<v Scott Wiens>It wasn't, their joy wasn't dependent upon their circumstance, and you've probably heard many sermons before about the difference between happiness and joy.

00:21:12.290 --> 00:21:14.609
<v Scott Wiens>There's a big difference between them.

00:21:14.609 --> 00:21:16.930
<v Scott Wiens>Happiness is a feeling.

00:21:16.930 --> 00:21:19.568
<v Scott Wiens>Okay, it's a feeling you know.

00:21:19.568 --> 00:21:30.728
<v Scott Wiens>You go out and have a good meal, you're happy about the meal, or your kids come over, you're happy to see them, or you watch something funny on YouTube, you laugh at it and you're happy.

00:21:30.728 --> 00:21:37.036
<v Scott Wiens>Joy is a state of being and nobody can take that away from you.

00:21:37.036 --> 00:21:40.166
<v Scott Wiens>Nobody can take that away from you.

00:21:40.186 --> 00:21:52.364
<v Scott Wiens>You know, I think of my brother Paul Queen, our brother Paul Queen, and he that man's you want to talk about, a true believer of Christ.

00:21:52.364 --> 00:22:05.411
<v Scott Wiens>For those of you who don't know, paul was a long-time elder here at our church he's we still consider him an elder, but he's been basically because of some really bad neuropathy in his feet.

00:22:05.411 --> 00:22:08.392
<v Scott Wiens>He's in constant pain and he can't attend.

00:22:08.392 --> 00:22:10.119
<v Scott Wiens>He's got problems with his heart as well.

00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.185
<v Scott Wiens>I mean, it's and this is a dynamic man.

00:22:12.185 --> 00:22:15.423
<v Scott Wiens>This guy is like you know, winning over the woo.

00:22:15.423 --> 00:22:18.442
<v Scott Wiens>You know, if you go through Strength Finders, the woo he's like big-time woo.

00:22:18.442 --> 00:22:19.288
<v Scott Wiens>Right, this guy is just.

00:22:19.288 --> 00:22:20.855
<v Scott Wiens>He loves the body of Christ.

00:22:20.855 --> 00:22:22.583
<v Scott Wiens>But there he is at home.

00:22:22.583 --> 00:22:25.617
<v Scott Wiens>He can't get out of this situation and he's prayed.

00:22:25.617 --> 00:22:27.923
<v Scott Wiens>We've prayed, we've all been praying for him to be healed.

00:22:28.865 --> 00:22:34.144
<v Scott Wiens>But if you talk to Paul, the first thing out of his lips is not going to be complaints.

00:22:34.144 --> 00:22:40.017
<v Scott Wiens>If you talk to Paul, oh, if you pull it out of him and say, well, how are you feeling physically?

00:22:40.017 --> 00:22:41.747
<v Scott Wiens>I don't know, he'll tell you a little bit.

00:22:41.747 --> 00:22:47.711
<v Scott Wiens>But then, you know, the first thing he'll say is I'll tell you what I have encountered the Lord in powerful ways.

00:22:47.711 --> 00:22:52.288
<v Scott Wiens>In my time here, I have heard.

00:22:52.288 --> 00:22:53.553
<v Scott Wiens>I've been reading scriptures.

00:22:53.553 --> 00:22:54.798
<v Scott Wiens>I've read for my whole life.

00:22:54.798 --> 00:22:56.065
<v Scott Wiens>They're coming alive to me.

00:22:56.065 --> 00:23:08.185
<v Scott Wiens>The Lord has just ministered to me in such powerful ways and I just listened to him and I'm thinking, if there's anybody has an excuse to have their joy removed from them, it would be Paul.

00:23:08.185 --> 00:23:11.272
<v Scott Wiens>But it's not Paul.

00:23:12.280 --> 00:23:20.230
<v Scott Wiens>Our brother Paul is in his own prison right now, but he's not in prison because he has that joy inside and it comes out.

00:23:20.230 --> 00:23:21.994
<v Scott Wiens>You can't fake that.

00:23:21.994 --> 00:23:25.911
<v Scott Wiens>You can't fake that and please continue to pray for him.

00:23:25.911 --> 00:23:33.101
<v Scott Wiens>We're still believing that he will be healed and he will be back in this room sometime, because when he is, you'll know he's back, by the way.

00:23:33.101 --> 00:23:49.381
<v Scott Wiens>But you know, unfortunately in the church today we're influenced by our culture where we only celebrate when things are going well and then, when the wheels fall off, we get thrown into turmoil, and that's not the way it should be.

00:23:49.381 --> 00:23:57.009
<v Scott Wiens>When we pray, we are to encounter God through the expression of joy that almost always accompanies thankfulness.

00:23:58.232 --> 00:24:02.163
<v Scott Wiens>All right, the third point Prayer should be informed by the gospel.

00:24:02.163 --> 00:24:14.362
<v Scott Wiens>Prayer should be informed by the gospel, verse 3, again picking up there through verse 5, I thank my God with all my remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine for you all, making my prayer with joy.

00:24:14.362 --> 00:24:28.567
<v Scott Wiens>Verse 5, because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, you cannot read the Apostle Paul's writings without getting slapped in the face multiple times with the gospel.

00:24:28.567 --> 00:24:31.958
<v Scott Wiens>He loved the gospel.

00:24:31.958 --> 00:25:00.455
<v Scott Wiens>It informed everything that he did, including his prayers, and Paul really viewed all believers as partners in the gospel, as partners, you know, in the word partnership in this phrase in verse 5 is translated from the Greek word coindonia, which I think you know Tyler shared a few weeks ago, and when it's used in the context of this passage and in many other passages within his letters, it has this meaning of close association or fellowship.

00:25:00.455 --> 00:25:03.364
<v Scott Wiens>Close association or fellowship.

00:25:05.127 --> 00:25:08.021
<v Scott Wiens>I don't know how many of you are fans of the Lord of the Rings series.

00:25:08.021 --> 00:25:11.288
<v Scott Wiens>My wife hasn't memorized.

00:25:11.288 --> 00:25:17.068
<v Scott Wiens>She and my daughters will get together and they'll say let's watch Lord of the Rings.

00:25:17.068 --> 00:25:19.467
<v Scott Wiens>Now I know what let's watch Lord of the Rings means.

00:25:19.467 --> 00:25:21.957
<v Scott Wiens>It means we're all going to sit down.

00:25:21.957 --> 00:25:27.382
<v Scott Wiens>I'm going to try to watch it, and they're going to talk and knit and jail can talk through the whole thing.

00:25:27.382 --> 00:25:31.304
<v Scott Wiens>I'm going to put the captions on and hope they don't include me in the conversation.

00:25:31.304 --> 00:25:44.465
<v Scott Wiens>They, but they love this, they love this movie so much these movies because, by the way, there's so many wonderful godly parallels inside of there of course was written by a Christian, right, so it's just beautiful.

00:25:44.506 --> 00:25:48.263
<v Scott Wiens>But what's interesting is that group, that fellowship of the Ring.

00:25:48.263 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Scott Wiens>They were all together and they were very odd, just like the church.

00:25:52.240 --> 00:26:00.492
<v Scott Wiens>There were very different people, but they had one main purpose and they were all working towards that purpose and I love that.

00:26:00.492 --> 00:26:03.104
<v Scott Wiens>And that's really what we are in the church.

00:26:03.104 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Scott Wiens>We are a fellowship and we part of what brings us together.

00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.310
<v Scott Wiens>The main thing is bringing us together.

00:26:09.310 --> 00:26:10.858
<v Scott Wiens>That holds us together is the gospel.

00:26:10.858 --> 00:26:14.175
<v Scott Wiens>Now you might say, okay, scott, you need to, you need to.

00:26:14.175 --> 00:26:16.386
<v Scott Wiens>You know, give me some more meat on that.

00:26:16.386 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Scott Wiens>What do you mean by partnership in the gospel?

00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.854
<v Scott Wiens>That prayer should have be informed by the gospel.

00:26:21.854 --> 00:26:30.089
<v Scott Wiens>Well, all you have to do is look at what are the elements of the gospel, what are the parts of the gospel that make it the gospel, and I just wrote a few down.

00:26:30.813 --> 00:26:31.895
<v Scott Wiens>Let's start with forgiveness.

00:26:31.895 --> 00:26:42.813
<v Scott Wiens>Our prayers should be full of expressions of forgiveness towards others, others that have hurt us and thankfulness for the forgiveness that's been extended to us.

00:26:42.813 --> 00:26:51.075
<v Scott Wiens>I cannot pray in the mornings, you guys, without thanking God for the forgiveness that's been given to me through Christ Jesus.

00:26:51.075 --> 00:26:51.698
<v Scott Wiens>I can't.

00:26:51.698 --> 00:26:54.125
<v Scott Wiens>I can't because it informs everything else.

00:26:54.125 --> 00:26:55.247
<v Scott Wiens>That's the gospel.

00:26:55.247 --> 00:27:01.307
<v Scott Wiens>That's your prayers being informed by the gospel.

00:27:03.272 --> 00:27:03.614
<v Scott Wiens>Grace.

00:27:03.614 --> 00:27:04.576
<v Scott Wiens>How about grace?

00:27:04.576 --> 00:27:09.698
<v Scott Wiens>Does grace come out in our prayers as we pray for those who are lost or those that have hurt us?

00:27:09.698 --> 00:27:14.417
<v Scott Wiens>Do we extend grace to people that should be there?

00:27:14.417 --> 00:27:24.356
<v Scott Wiens>That should be part of your prayer when you're praying for someone, to ask yourself am I praying with grace, especially people that have hurt us or we've done things wrong?

00:27:24.356 --> 00:27:33.256
<v Scott Wiens>You know, and sometimes it's even with a lost, because you know it's tough sometimes to pray for people that are just totally walking away from God.

00:27:33.256 --> 00:27:34.982
<v Scott Wiens>Do we pray with grace on those?

00:27:34.982 --> 00:27:37.652
<v Scott Wiens>Do we pray for them with that focus?

00:27:37.652 --> 00:27:39.699
<v Scott Wiens>How about repentance?

00:27:39.699 --> 00:27:43.694
<v Scott Wiens>Do we repent for our sins or do we justify our sins?

00:27:43.694 --> 00:27:50.086
<v Scott Wiens>You know, god, I know I shouldn't have got mad or I shouldn't have said that about that person, but you know I had a right.

00:27:50.086 --> 00:27:51.049
<v Scott Wiens>They really triggered me.

00:27:51.049 --> 00:27:53.960
<v Scott Wiens>I'm just going to tell you something.

00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:55.424
<v Scott Wiens>God doesn't care about your triggers.

00:27:55.424 --> 00:27:58.756
<v Scott Wiens>He doesn't care about your triggers.

00:27:58.756 --> 00:28:00.560
<v Scott Wiens>The Eagles.

00:28:00.560 --> 00:28:09.950
<v Scott Wiens>When the Eagles got together for their Hell Freezes Over Tour, they wrote a song called Get Over it and I think it was really spot on.

00:28:09.950 --> 00:28:14.424
<v Scott Wiens>Get over it, get over your trigger, submit yourself to God.

00:28:16.147 --> 00:28:17.029
<v Scott Wiens>How about justice?

00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:25.490
<v Scott Wiens>Do we express to God that justice is His, not ours, it's His, it's not ours?

00:28:25.490 --> 00:28:30.923
<v Scott Wiens>Do we say to God you know God, this person hurt me.

00:28:30.923 --> 00:28:33.670
<v Scott Wiens>I can't wait to watch you hurt them.

00:28:33.670 --> 00:28:36.042
<v Scott Wiens>In fact, I'm going to have popcorn.

00:28:36.042 --> 00:28:41.709
<v Scott Wiens>I want the front row to see, to watch you deliver the justice that is mine and deserve my wait.

00:28:41.709 --> 00:28:51.746
<v Scott Wiens>A second you want, you know, god's gospel informs that, because if you got what you deserve, if I got what I deserve, we wouldn't be here.

00:28:51.746 --> 00:28:55.381
<v Scott Wiens>So who are we to sit there and demand justice?

00:28:55.381 --> 00:29:01.792
<v Scott Wiens>I love to say justice is a robe you can't wear.

00:29:01.792 --> 00:29:04.057
<v Scott Wiens>I can't wear.

00:29:04.057 --> 00:29:14.346
<v Scott Wiens>It's not mine to meter out and, by the way, every action movie you see totally contradicts that right and we like to see those.

00:29:14.346 --> 00:29:20.805
<v Scott Wiens>You know the bad guy gets it because justice is not executed speedily.

00:29:20.805 --> 00:29:23.049
<v Scott Wiens>Remember that scripture.

00:29:23.049 --> 00:29:27.310
<v Scott Wiens>We have to be patient and we have to realize that God's the one to do that.

00:29:28.296 --> 00:29:29.583
<v Scott Wiens>How about submission to Christ?

00:29:29.583 --> 00:29:32.597
<v Scott Wiens>That's another element of the gospel, submitting fully.

00:29:32.597 --> 00:29:36.537
<v Scott Wiens>Do we pray with the heart of someone who's submitted totally and fully to God?

00:29:36.537 --> 00:29:38.806
<v Scott Wiens>That's how the gospel informs your prayers.

00:29:38.806 --> 00:29:47.761
<v Scott Wiens>You know you run a risk every time you come to church and hear a sermon because something might be said that's going to go.

00:29:47.761 --> 00:29:50.391
<v Scott Wiens>Oh, that hurts.

00:29:50.391 --> 00:30:02.035
<v Scott Wiens>Every time you open your Bible and you read, you run a risk of reading something that the Holy Spirit is going to go gotcha and it's going to require us to submit something to God.

00:30:02.035 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Scott Wiens>And those are tough to do.

00:30:04.124 --> 00:30:07.417
<v Scott Wiens>Sometimes A lot of us say I'm going to obey right up to this point.

00:30:07.417 --> 00:30:13.940
<v Scott Wiens>But, god, I believe 95% of what you said, but this 5% over here, nah, I'm not submitting that.

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:15.144
<v Scott Wiens>Is that enough?

00:30:15.144 --> 00:30:15.465
<v Scott Wiens>God?

00:30:15.465 --> 00:30:16.891
<v Scott Wiens>Can I still make it?

00:30:16.891 --> 00:30:18.538
<v Scott Wiens>Does that qualify?

00:30:18.538 --> 00:30:22.858
<v Scott Wiens>I was having a conversation with somebody after the first service and it was funny.

00:30:22.858 --> 00:30:31.750
<v Scott Wiens>He said so many people are performance based and they don't know it and they think you know it's past fail.

00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:33.635
<v Scott Wiens>75% is past right.

00:30:33.635 --> 00:30:36.243
<v Scott Wiens>So as long as I get past 75%, I'm okay.

00:30:36.243 --> 00:30:38.211
<v Scott Wiens>They've missed the point.

00:30:38.211 --> 00:30:40.257
<v Scott Wiens>They've missed the point.

00:30:40.257 --> 00:30:42.384
<v Scott Wiens>They've fallen into workspace salvation.

00:30:44.089 --> 00:30:46.217
<v Scott Wiens>So obedience is a big thing as well.

00:30:46.217 --> 00:30:51.991
<v Scott Wiens>Do we ask God for the strength to obey the teachings of Jesus and turn away from wrong behaviors.

00:30:51.991 --> 00:31:11.949
<v Scott Wiens>I will tell you that one of the things just be transparent about the eldership here One of the things that we find ourselves talking about and praying about in eldership meetings is asking God to give us wisdom to obey and the courage to obey the truth.

00:31:11.949 --> 00:31:16.349
<v Scott Wiens>You might say, well, scott, what's the big deal with that?

00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:17.894
<v Scott Wiens>I'll tell you what the big deal about that is.

00:31:19.029 --> 00:31:22.419
<v Scott Wiens>If we wanted to fill this sanctuary up, we could do it.

00:31:22.419 --> 00:31:24.694
<v Scott Wiens>It's no problem, we could fill it up.

00:31:24.694 --> 00:31:29.500
<v Scott Wiens>We know the equation for building a big, big, big, big church.

00:31:29.500 --> 00:31:35.153
<v Scott Wiens>All you have to look is a lot of the big, big, big churches and follow what they do.

00:31:35.153 --> 00:31:36.976
<v Scott Wiens>You can water the gospel down.

00:31:36.976 --> 00:31:42.450
<v Scott Wiens>You could quit talking about those things that offend people like the gospel and you could make everybody feel good.

00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:51.430
<v Scott Wiens>And we'd find one guy that was just our best preacher and then we crown him with a crown and he would be our spokesman, and now we would just try to gather people in.

00:31:51.430 --> 00:31:57.449
<v Scott Wiens>We won't do that because that's not the gospel, that's not truth.

00:31:57.449 --> 00:32:05.942
<v Scott Wiens>And so and you gotta realize, we're not afraid of you guys, we fear God, because he's the one we're gonna answer to.

00:32:05.942 --> 00:32:16.616
<v Scott Wiens>Tyler someday will stand in front of Christ and be accountable for everything he did as the lead elder of this church, you could be his biggest fans.

00:32:16.616 --> 00:32:18.201
<v Scott Wiens>God won't hear you.

00:32:18.201 --> 00:32:20.109
<v Scott Wiens>It's between Tyler and God.

00:32:20.109 --> 00:32:23.869
<v Scott Wiens>You understand what I'm saying about that and that's how we take this is so important.

00:32:23.869 --> 00:32:26.029
<v Scott Wiens>So seeker, friendly, all that stuff.

00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:33.109
<v Scott Wiens>We pray against that all the time, because sometimes it's easy to see it slip in and sometimes we catch something.

00:32:33.109 --> 00:32:35.109
<v Scott Wiens>No, we can't go that direction.

00:32:35.109 --> 00:32:37.369
<v Scott Wiens>We wanna be obedient to the word of God.

00:32:37.369 --> 00:32:46.736
<v Scott Wiens>If we were not that way, you wouldn't have heard sermon series like we gave last summer about let's talk, can we talk?

00:32:46.736 --> 00:32:53.990
<v Scott Wiens>Thank you, by the way, tyler's doing a small group on that, a community group this semester on that, which takes that further.

00:32:53.990 --> 00:33:02.875
<v Scott Wiens>We said some hard things, but those hard things were all truth and that's what we base our truth on and that's what we follow.

00:33:02.875 --> 00:33:10.878
<v Scott Wiens>So, as we pray, the core elements of the gospel should be evident in our prayers and that's how we encounter God.

00:33:10.878 --> 00:33:23.549
<v Scott Wiens>Now, the last part of the element, the last part of encountering God through prayer, is that genuine prayers should be intercessory in nature and motivated by a genuine love for others.

00:33:23.549 --> 00:33:31.517
<v Scott Wiens>Now I'm gonna read a big section of scripture here, the rest of this passage, and I want you guys just to listen very carefully to what he says here.

00:33:33.314 --> 00:33:40.349
<v Scott Wiens>Verse six and I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Scott Wiens>By the way, your salvation is sure.

00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.576
<v Scott Wiens>Hold on to that, okay.

00:33:45.576 --> 00:34:00.109
<v Scott Wiens>Verse seven it is right for me to feel this way about you because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel.

00:34:00.109 --> 00:34:01.876
<v Scott Wiens>There's that word again, gospel.

00:34:01.876 --> 00:34:10.364
<v Scott Wiens>Oh, by the way, the greatest theologian that ever lived, apostle Paul, literally talked about feelings.

00:34:10.364 --> 00:34:15.335
<v Scott Wiens>It is right for me to feel this way about you because I hold you in my heart.

00:34:15.335 --> 00:34:19.501
<v Scott Wiens>Listen, knowledge and emotion can work together.

00:34:19.501 --> 00:34:21.456
<v Scott Wiens>It should work together in our hearts, right?

00:34:21.456 --> 00:34:28.219
<v Scott Wiens>Verse eight for God as my witness, how I yearn for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus.

00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Scott Wiens>Verse nine and it is my prayer again, he's teaching them to pray that your love may abound more and more with knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve what is excellent and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ.

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:51.539
<v Scott Wiens>Verse 11, filled with a fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God.

00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:51.980
<v Scott Wiens>Amen.

00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:53.757
<v Scott Wiens>What a beautiful passage of scripture.

00:34:53.757 --> 00:35:00.755
<v Scott Wiens>What's so powerful about this is that God or, excuse me, paul loved the church.

00:35:00.755 --> 00:35:08.201
<v Scott Wiens>He loved the church and his prayers were laced with intercession for the church.

00:35:08.201 --> 00:35:21.597
<v Scott Wiens>Intercession and, by the way, the word intercede it's just the act of intervening for somebody, but when you put it in the context of intercessory prayer, it's going before the Lord on behalf of somebody else.

00:35:21.597 --> 00:35:34.735
<v Scott Wiens>Paul prayed intercessory prayers for the members of the church by name and we know that because if you read through these epistles you'll see he mentions people by name, expressing gratitude for them.

00:35:34.735 --> 00:35:38.177
<v Scott Wiens>He really prayed over them, like a father would pray over his children.

00:35:38.177 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Scott Wiens>You know, some of the most beautiful prayers I've ever heard are prayed right up here or in a house church where I heard somebody praying for another member, another Christian and who they loved, and that love just oozed out of them through their prayer and they were interceding for them, interceding.

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:13.233
<v Scott Wiens>We've had some tough times in this church where we've had people that were sick and I heard the most beautiful prayers of intercession for these people.

00:36:13.769 --> 00:36:16.697
<v Scott Wiens>That's what our prayers should be informed of.

00:36:16.697 --> 00:36:25.157
<v Scott Wiens>We should be interceding for people because not because we have to, not because, oh, it's something I gotta check off.

00:36:25.157 --> 00:36:27.418
<v Scott Wiens>Oh yeah, did I intercede for Tom?

00:36:27.418 --> 00:36:28.574
<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, I interceded for Tom.

00:36:28.574 --> 00:36:31.077
<v Scott Wiens>No, it's because we want to intercede for them.

00:36:31.077 --> 00:36:35.333
<v Scott Wiens>We want to do that because we have a love, a deep love, for them.

00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:41.333
<v Scott Wiens>You know, the apostle John stated this in 1 John 4, verse 11 and 12.

00:36:41.333 --> 00:36:42.512
<v Scott Wiens>He said beloved.

00:36:42.512 --> 00:36:45.996
<v Scott Wiens>If God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

00:36:45.996 --> 00:36:50.210
<v Scott Wiens>Amen, absolutely Okay.

00:36:50.210 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Scott Wiens>Then he says something really odd no one has ever seen God.

00:36:54.679 --> 00:37:02.121
<v Scott Wiens>Oh, and then he jumps to this If we love one another, god abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

00:37:02.121 --> 00:37:05.670
<v Scott Wiens>Why did he say no one's ever seen God?

00:37:05.670 --> 00:37:07.389
<v Scott Wiens>Why did he stick that in here?

00:37:07.389 --> 00:37:09.619
<v Scott Wiens>He sandwiched it.

00:37:09.619 --> 00:37:11.489
<v Scott Wiens>You want to know what he did?

00:37:11.489 --> 00:37:13.168
<v Scott Wiens>I believe this fully.

00:37:13.168 --> 00:37:15.909
<v Scott Wiens>I believe he said no one's ever seen God.

00:37:17.476 --> 00:37:31.222
<v Scott Wiens>But they can see you, and when you intercede for them and when you pray for them, they see God in you, they see God in you, they see God in me.

00:37:31.222 --> 00:37:45.510
<v Scott Wiens>And that's the way it should be, and I think it's really vital that we understand that when we intercede for people, we are literally representing God and sometimes they see God, have you ever just prayed for a stranger?

00:37:45.510 --> 00:37:48.670
<v Scott Wiens>You know, you see somebody and Holy Spirit moves you.

00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:49.793
<v Scott Wiens>And Holy Spirit moves.

00:37:49.793 --> 00:37:51.179
<v Scott Wiens>You say I just need to pray for that person.

00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:56.577
<v Scott Wiens>And sometimes the look on their face.

00:37:56.577 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Scott Wiens>You say, excuse me, I don't know you, but I just feel like I'm supposed to pray for you.

00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.056
<v Scott Wiens>They go really yeah, can I pray for you?

00:38:08.056 --> 00:38:09.255
<v Scott Wiens>Is there anything you want me to pray for?

00:38:09.255 --> 00:38:21.179
<v Scott Wiens>And sometimes they say things like I can't believe this, I am going through a terrible divorce or whatever it is, and I'm like, yes, I need prayer.

00:38:21.179 --> 00:38:22.735
<v Scott Wiens>And then you pray for them.

00:38:22.735 --> 00:38:36.536
<v Scott Wiens>Do you realize that you were in answer to prayer, that they got to see God through you and what you did, you interceded for them and what motivated you was love that God's given you and that can only come from him.

00:38:36.536 --> 00:38:39.315
<v Scott Wiens>That can't be something you can work out.

00:38:39.315 --> 00:38:40.896
<v Scott Wiens>And, by the way, you can fake love.

00:38:40.896 --> 00:38:42.675
<v Scott Wiens>You can fake love for people.

00:38:44.329 --> 00:38:46.978
<v Scott Wiens>But don't come to church very often.

00:38:46.978 --> 00:38:50.735
<v Scott Wiens>Don't join a community group, don't go to a house church.

00:38:50.735 --> 00:38:54.632
<v Scott Wiens>Just stay by yourself, because if you want to keep that shurot up, it's gonna be.

00:38:54.632 --> 00:38:55.536
<v Scott Wiens>It'll eventually.

00:38:55.536 --> 00:38:57.793
<v Scott Wiens>If you've drowned a brethren long enough, it'll be revealed.

00:38:57.793 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Scott Wiens>No, no, this love comes from Christ.

00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:04.753
<v Scott Wiens>That's where it comes from.

00:39:04.753 --> 00:39:08.936
<v Scott Wiens>To infectively encounter God in prayer, we need to have his heart for the brethren.

00:39:08.936 --> 00:39:18.394
<v Scott Wiens>Our prayers should be saturated by prayers for our brothers and sisters in Christ not just in our church, by the way, but in our nation and around the world and including prayer for the lost.

00:39:19.550 --> 00:39:20.896
<v Scott Wiens>Here's a litmus test for you.

00:39:20.896 --> 00:39:22.931
<v Scott Wiens>Remember?

00:39:22.931 --> 00:39:25.057
<v Scott Wiens>I had to take this litmus test as well.

00:39:25.057 --> 00:39:29.934
<v Scott Wiens>Okay, look at your prayer list.

00:39:29.934 --> 00:39:30.971
<v Scott Wiens>Look at you.

00:39:30.971 --> 00:39:32.858
<v Scott Wiens>A lot of you have prayer lists.

00:39:32.858 --> 00:39:40.393
<v Scott Wiens>I have a prayer sheet for every day of the week and I have certain things I pray for in each one of those days.

00:39:40.393 --> 00:39:42.614
<v Scott Wiens>Some things I pray all the time.

00:39:44.112 --> 00:39:45.637
<v Scott Wiens>How many names are on your prayer list?

00:39:45.637 --> 00:39:54.516
<v Scott Wiens>How many names Do you find yourself praying for the lost?

00:39:54.516 --> 00:39:59.175
<v Scott Wiens>Do you have names of your relatives that are lost, that you want to see saved?

00:39:59.175 --> 00:40:05.612
<v Scott Wiens>We obviously pray for our children that are lost, right, but do we pray for those people by name?

00:40:05.612 --> 00:40:08.891
<v Scott Wiens>Do we pray for our leaders by name?

00:40:08.891 --> 00:40:11.909
<v Scott Wiens>That's intercessory prayer.

00:40:13.385 --> 00:40:27.327
<v Scott Wiens>And for me to say, well, I would pray for that leader, but hey, no way that leader will ever come to Christ, I bet you there was a lot of Christians that said, hey, no way that Saul guy is ever going to come to Christ.

00:40:27.327 --> 00:40:29.028
<v Scott Wiens>That guy is killing us.

00:40:29.028 --> 00:40:32.192
<v Scott Wiens>Hey, no way he's going to come to Christ, really.

00:40:32.192 --> 00:40:53.757
<v Scott Wiens>So your God's this big, then Wouldn't it be amazing if one day, you hear this news article that says a very significant leader in your nation has suddenly called a press conference and they basically repent?

00:40:53.757 --> 00:40:56.367
<v Scott Wiens>Wouldn't that be amazing?

00:40:56.367 --> 00:40:58.375
<v Scott Wiens>Can God do that?

00:40:58.375 --> 00:40:59.829
<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, he can do that.

00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:01.887
<v Scott Wiens>I want to pray for that.

00:41:01.887 --> 00:41:02.931
<v Scott Wiens>That's what I want to see.

00:41:02.931 --> 00:41:10.565
<v Scott Wiens>I want to intercede for people you know, by the way, who set the example and continues to set the example of intercession for us.

00:41:10.565 --> 00:41:13.126
<v Scott Wiens>No, not Neil.

00:41:13.126 --> 00:41:18.206
<v Scott Wiens>Neil, by the way, is a great intercessor, jesus Christ.

00:41:21.724 --> 00:41:50.554
<v Scott Wiens>You think it would have been enough for him to empty himself in his divinity, to come here to live a perfect life, to be ostracized, to be whipped, mocked, spit on flesh, ripped off his back, nailed to a cross and then, the worst thing, to have God turn his back on him and dump all the sins of the world that have ever been committed and ever will be on his back, to the point where he said my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

00:41:50.554 --> 00:41:56.434
<v Scott Wiens>But you know what he does now, after he was raised from the dead and seated in the right hand.

00:41:56.434 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Scott Wiens>You think he would take some time off.

00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:59.065
<v Scott Wiens>He's not.

00:42:02.244 --> 00:42:05.451
<v Scott Wiens>Romans 8, 34 says who is to condemn?

00:42:05.451 --> 00:42:07.335
<v Scott Wiens>Christ?

00:42:07.335 --> 00:42:08.657
<v Scott Wiens>Jesus is the one who died.

00:42:08.657 --> 00:42:10.266
<v Scott Wiens>More than that, I like this.

00:42:10.266 --> 00:42:16.496
<v Scott Wiens>Who was raised, who is at the right hand of God and who, indeed, is interceding for us.

00:42:16.496 --> 00:42:20.190
<v Scott Wiens>Does that not just stir you inside?

00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:26.253
<v Scott Wiens>The one who did everything for us continues to do things for us that we can't do.

00:42:26.253 --> 00:42:30.507
<v Scott Wiens>Hebrews 7, 25,.

00:42:30.568 --> 00:42:43.228
<v Scott Wiens>Consequently, the writer of Hebrews says he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives wow, always lives to make intercession for them.

00:42:43.228 --> 00:42:52.393
<v Scott Wiens>We have the great intercessor that's interceding for us, and if his heart is in us, we have Christ in us.

00:42:52.393 --> 00:42:53.835
<v Scott Wiens>We should be intercessors.

00:42:53.835 --> 00:42:58.552
<v Scott Wiens>As one preacher used to say, if you can't say amen, you ought to say ouch.

00:42:58.552 --> 00:43:00.487
<v Scott Wiens>I said ouch.

00:43:00.487 --> 00:43:07.628
<v Scott Wiens>I got a lot of growing to do, a lot of growing in this area of intercession, and we should be intercessors.

00:43:09.925 --> 00:43:18.237
<v Scott Wiens>If we want to encounter God through prayer, we also have to be those that pray, prayers that are saturated with intercession for one another and for the lost of this world.

00:43:18.237 --> 00:43:28.510
<v Scott Wiens>So, to conclude, I want to ask all of us if we were really serious about encountering God through prayer like the early church was.

00:43:28.510 --> 00:43:30.235
<v Scott Wiens>Are we really serious about this?

00:43:30.235 --> 00:43:36.074
<v Scott Wiens>Because if we are, we need to follow the instructions that Paul gave the Philippians.

00:43:36.074 --> 00:43:39.592
<v Scott Wiens>Again, what were they?

00:43:39.592 --> 00:43:43.152
<v Scott Wiens>Well, saturate our prayers with thanksgiving.

00:43:43.152 --> 00:43:45.871
<v Scott Wiens>Thankfulness should be everywhere in our prayers.

00:43:45.871 --> 00:43:48.630
<v Scott Wiens>Saturate our prayers with expressions of joy.

00:43:48.630 --> 00:43:57.695
<v Scott Wiens>Saturate our prayers with the truth of the gospel and all the elements of the gospel and, finally, saturate our prayers with intercession for our fellow believers and the lost.

00:43:59.605 --> 00:44:00.929
<v Scott Wiens>Here's the challenge I'm going to leave you today.

00:44:00.929 --> 00:44:04.574
<v Scott Wiens>Write those four points down, a brief and do whatever you want.

00:44:04.574 --> 00:44:15.708
<v Scott Wiens>If you want to just say thankfulness, joy, you know, gospel and intercession, just write those words down and then the next time you go to spend time with the Lord, start praying and just have those words there.

00:44:15.708 --> 00:44:20.994
<v Scott Wiens>Looking at you, I'm not saying to do this in a condemning way, not at all.

00:44:20.994 --> 00:44:27.653
<v Scott Wiens>I'm asking you to do this in an informing way, and what you're going to find is, as you're praying, you're going to say wait a second.

00:44:27.653 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, I've been frustrated with my neighbor who just ran over my shrub and wait a second.

00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:36.168
<v Scott Wiens>I need to forgive him for that.

00:44:36.168 --> 00:44:40.648
<v Scott Wiens>I need to pull that in Gospel needs to inform that prayer.

00:44:42.385 --> 00:44:45.251
<v Scott Wiens>So-and-so at church just said this to me and it offended me.

00:44:45.251 --> 00:44:47.867
<v Scott Wiens>Wait a second, I got to forgive.

00:44:47.867 --> 00:44:52.545
<v Scott Wiens>That So-and-so is hurting and I don't pray for them all the time.

00:44:52.545 --> 00:44:53.449
<v Scott Wiens>I need to pray for them.

00:44:53.449 --> 00:44:57.112
<v Scott Wiens>Use it as a motivation and to inform your prayers.

00:44:57.112 --> 00:45:02.414
<v Scott Wiens>Inform your prayers and you will encounter God in powerful, powerful ways.

00:45:03.065 --> 00:45:13.753
<v Scott Wiens>And let me say this to those that are not yet believers, or maybe you're not sure if you're a believer in Jesus Christ, the fact you're here may mean something significant.

00:45:13.753 --> 00:45:14.474
<v Scott Wiens>I say may.

00:45:14.474 --> 00:45:16.190
<v Scott Wiens>It does mean something significant.

00:45:16.190 --> 00:45:18.449
<v Scott Wiens>It means that you're here to hear the gospel.

00:45:18.449 --> 00:45:38.231
<v Scott Wiens>You might not know it, you might have come for a different reason, but you're here, you're hearing the gospel, you have an opportunity to literally encounter the Creator of the universe in a way that you have never, ever even believed could happen, and all it takes it's everything.

00:45:38.231 --> 00:45:40.429
<v Scott Wiens>It's simple, but it's everything.

00:45:40.429 --> 00:45:42.831
<v Scott Wiens>It's surrendering your life over to Him.

00:45:42.831 --> 00:46:02.494
<v Scott Wiens>And I can guarantee you, just like Lee Strobel knelt down there at the front of his living room in front of that coffee table and prayed that awkward prayer, god will meet you there and he will change your life in the most beautiful and powerful way.

00:46:02.494 --> 00:46:05.686
<v Scott Wiens>You stand with me and we'll pray.

00:46:11.644 --> 00:46:19.755
<v Scott Wiens>Heavenly Father, we all stand here at well.

00:46:19.755 --> 00:46:20.998
<v Scott Wiens>We stand here because of you.

00:46:20.998 --> 00:46:27.085
<v Scott Wiens>The fact that we can hear truth and we can understand and absorb truth is because of you.

00:46:27.085 --> 00:46:40.572
<v Scott Wiens>Father, lord, it's our prayer, it's my prayer that all of us walk out of here with a renewed sense and desire and urgency to encounter you in these different ways.

00:46:40.572 --> 00:46:43.567
<v Scott Wiens>The apostle Paul laid out in this beautiful passage of scripture.

00:46:43.567 --> 00:46:48.494
<v Scott Wiens>Father, give us the courage to encounter you in these ways.

00:46:48.494 --> 00:46:53.014
<v Scott Wiens>Inform our prayers with joy and form our prayers with thanksgiving.

00:46:53.014 --> 00:46:56.032
<v Scott Wiens>Teach us to be intercessors, father.

00:46:56.032 --> 00:46:58.452
<v Scott Wiens>Teach us to use the gospel as we pray to you.

00:46:58.452 --> 00:47:05.730
<v Scott Wiens>And, father, as we encounter you, teach us Feel to us those hidden areas we need to see.

00:47:05.730 --> 00:47:15.117
<v Scott Wiens>And, father, may we be more and more the warrior that you want us to be for the gospel and for the kingdom.

00:47:15.117 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Scott Wiens>And that's our prayer, father, and we give it all to you in the powerful name of Jesus.

00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:22.338
<v Scott Wiens>Amen.
