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<v Kelly Kinder>Let's open the scripture.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This morning we want to talk in 1 Corinthians 14, 26-40.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You'll be turning there.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let's begin with that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's our primary text 1 Corinthians 14, 26-40.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Just calling this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>When you come together, when you come together and we'll come back to this passage by the end of our message, but let's just read it together come together with and we'll come back to this passage by the end of our message, but let's just read it together.

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<v Kelly Kinder>What then, brothers?

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<v Kelly Kinder>When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let all things be done for building up, if any, speak in a tongue, let there be only two, or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone and let the others weigh what is said.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent, for you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be encouraged, and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets, for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the law says If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Or was it from you that the word of God came, or are you the only ones it has reached?

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<v Kelly Kinder>If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So my brothers earnestly desire to prophesy and do not forbid speaking in tongues, but all things should be done decently and in order.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know, a few years ago, new York Times article asked this intriguing question.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That article says what do diamond earrings, an old window frame, a purple bicycle, a china teapot, a jigsaw puzzle, a flat iron instant ramen and an espresso machine have in common?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Well, they were all gifts that respondents to a not-so-scientific field survey said were among the best or worst they'd ever received.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If you were to guess which items were wildly appreciated versus deeply resented, you would most likely fail spectacularly.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The diamond earrings bombed, for example, because the giver had not noticed that the recipient, his girlfriend of three years, did not have pierced ears.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The instant ramen, on the other hand was a hit, because that particular flavor, spicy miso, was not widely available, and the recipient's mother, who knew her son was crazy about it, tracked down a whole case of it.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You see, when it comes to gift-giving, context is everything, and that's never truer than when we come and how we come to see how church is supposed to function in the gifts of the Spirit, when we're ever together.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so we ask this question what should normal church be like and look like?

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<v Kelly Kinder>And for all of us?

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<v Kelly Kinder>We come from different perspectives and different backgrounds, and I was going to start out the message this morning with a few videos to kind of give you an idea of that, because some might offend if I were to have shown them, because they're really way out there and some would bore you to tears, you'd make you fall asleep.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so when we come together in worship, we think about the churches of Christ.

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<v Kelly Kinder>They run the gamut, and so these words, decently and in order in our text this morning, I just think, well, that's somewhat a subjective phrase, isn't it?

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<v Kelly Kinder>That could mean a lot of things to different people, to each one of us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so what I want to talk to you this morning about is really the elephant in the room, in a sense that we all have these different perspectives and agendas on what church is supposed to look like, and we all have experiences that tell us this way is the right way or that way is the right way.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Paul's answer about church order is really more about reality than it is about style.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It's more about reality than it is about style.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So we can let's just do this real quick Can we just stop right now and just pray together for unity in the spirit?

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<v Kelly Kinder>So, father, I'm just so glad and grateful for every person that's here and you've brought us everyone from different backgrounds, different experiences, different places, different perspectives.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But, lord, you, by your spirit, bring us together and we just pray, lord, that you bring us into one mind in the spirit of what you want to say to us this morning.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Lord, teach us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We pray in Jesus' name, amen.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So we're in this series.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Have you been here?

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<v Kelly Kinder>It's called Encounter, which is, as you know, it's really about opening, being open to the transforming work of the Holy Spirit in our lives, what he wants to do with us, and so it's essential we get this right.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It's essential because I think all of us want to come and we see God's presence.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We're at work in what we're doing.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Every time we come on, whether it's a Sunday or Wednesday, we want to know that God is here and he is here, but we want to experience him right.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So the bottom line is and I think this comes from John 15, verse 26.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It reminded me of this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Jesus said when the helper comes, remember he's our helper, whom I will send to you from the Father the spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He will witness about me.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So this is what the Holy Spirit is about.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He's about testifying to the person and work of Jesus Christ.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's his agenda and his goal is to guide us as believers, to honor his teachings and to understand what he wants to be for us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Jesus also said the spirit of truth will guide us into the truth.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You ever been on a road where you weren't really paying attention in your car and you were kind of distracted and your car started veering off and those little, I don't know what they are.

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<v Kelly Kinder>They're the corrugated places in the pavement and they really get your attention, don't they?

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<v Kelly Kinder>They kind of keep you in the.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It kind of disturbs you, it gets you back on the road again, and that's what the Holy Spirit's role for us is in the Christian life Sometimes to disturb us into getting back to where we need to be.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so that's important.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Our desire I want you to hear this Our desire and I think this really comes from the elder team Our desire, our great desire, is for this church to be a word and spirit church, a word and spirit church, a word and spirit church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But what often happens is that we sort of land on either one or the other of those, without one or without the other all about the word but listen, without the power and influence of the Holy Spirit, or we're all about the Spirit while ignoring the guidance and the authority of the Scriptures.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And, my friends, we need both.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We need both, the Word and the Spirit.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so, to that end, I think, as you've been here, you listen, you can watch these online if you haven't We've looked at a variety of things for that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The first, we talked about the person and work of the Spirit, and then we moved into the fruit of the Spirit, and Tyler talked about hearing the voice of God for yourself and then for others.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And then, last time, we looked specifically at the spiritual gift called tongues which may be different for some of us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know, that may not be your gift, but that is a gift that's available for us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so today, what I wanted to do is just to kind of see the importance of using all the gifts of the Spirit so that we minister to one another in an intelligible way.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's what this passage is really all about how the gifts of the Spirit are to operate when we get together, first in terms of the overall purpose and plan of God for the church, and then next, specifically, how the gifts of the Spirit can actually ignite an encounter for us as we come together.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We may not have ever realized that, but again, I hope that's what we all want.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I hope that's what we all want.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But, as Paul is going through this scripture, paul's great concern is again, when we come together, that we use our gifts in a clear and in understandable way for a particular reason.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's for the edification of the church, and we're going to talk about that this morning.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So, for our time together, let me just give you three words, three words as sort of hooks or pegs to hang your thoughts on.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The first word is purpose purpose.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The next word, the second word principle and the third word protocol, purpose, principle, protocol.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So with that let's turn first to Paul's letter to the Ephesians.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We come back to this, 1 Corinthians, in a minute.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But here Paul gives us first of all sort of a I guess a sort of top down 35,000 foot view perspective, a cosmic perspective, if you will, on the work and plan for the church as we use the gifts of the Spirit, for us as a church and as individuals.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And there we find the first point, the ultimate purpose of the gifts I want you to hear this, the ultimate purpose of the gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Ephesians 4, verses 7 and 8,.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ's gift.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Therefore, it says, when he ascended on high he led a host of captives and he gave gifts to men.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And the first thing to note here is this that grace was given to each of us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If you belong to Jesus Christ, you have at least one and probably more spiritual gifts, and you received those gifts when you came to Christ.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The Spirit gives those gifts out.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It says Christ measured them out.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If you go to Romans 12, you'll see that the measure of our gift is supposed to be associated with a degree of faith to use them.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I encourage you to Romans 12, 1 and 2, go back and look.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It says don't think too highly of yourself about your gift and don't think of yourself as a nobody.

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<v Kelly Kinder>God has given you.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The Holy Spirit has given you a gift to be used in the body.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Notice also he gave.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It says gifts to men.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know what happens when Christ went to the cross.

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<v Kelly Kinder>What happened?

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<v Kelly Kinder>He was vindicated at the cross.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He was vindicated by his resurrection and ascension and as a conqueror over our enemy, over his enemy.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He defeated Satan.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He rose again.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He ascended to the right hand of God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And notice, though, that Jesus, it says he gave out gifts, but he really in this giving the gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He really took the spoils of war from Satan.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Those were his.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He won those, and yet what we see here is Jesus doesn't keep those gifts for himself.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He gave these gifts out as gifts of grace to us as church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know, a few years ago, many years ago actually, I was seven or eight.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know, it's kind of funny what you remember when you're a kid, right?

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<v Kelly Kinder>And I always just think you know, god wanted me to remember this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's why I remember it as a kid of seven years, eight years old, I was one day invited to a birthday party.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Seven years old, I was one day invited to a birthday party and I knew what I wanted to get my friend, because I wanted it myself.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so what mom did was she took me to I don't know some of you still may remember Kmart.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It was like she took me to a place to get a toy and I knew exactly which one I wanted and I picked that out and I said I know this is what he'll like.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And she said, well, let's, we got home, let's wrap it.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And I said, well, let me, I kind of need to test this out.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so all day, and she let me, I don't know why she let me all day I played with my friend's gift and by the end of the day, as you can imagine, my gift, friend's gift, and by the end of the day, as you can imagine my gift, the toy was no longer something I would.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It was fit to give away.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so I guess my mom, she took me back and we got another one.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I still remember that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But you know I have the analogy for us in terms of spiritual gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Sometimes we treat our spiritual gifts like toys that we want to use for ourselves, when God wants us to use them as presents to give away to other people.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And we can be so enamored with what he's given us that we forget the purpose that they were given.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Sometimes we treat those gifts like they're our own.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It says he gave gifts to men and he did that for a reason.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Have you ever wondered why Jesus gave the gifts?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Here's some scriptures.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Maybe we'll kind of tweak your memory here.

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<v Kelly Kinder>For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, john 3.16.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners Romans 5.8.

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<v Kelly Kinder>By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.

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<v Kelly Kinder>1 John 3.16.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so by that we see the ultimate purpose for the gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>A few verses later, actually in Ephesians 4.15 and 16, listen to the verse here.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him, who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body joined and held together by every joint with which it's equipped.

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<v Kelly Kinder>When each part is working properly, don't forget that makes the body grow and then underline this so that it builds itself up in love.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That word building up, there is the word oikodomeo or oikodome.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It's two words.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Oiko or oikos is house, dome is build.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So it's really about to build a house.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Say, what is that talking about?

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<v Kelly Kinder>He's talking not about a physical house.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He's talking about building a spiritual house, and everyone who is a person, who belongs to Christ is a stone in that house, or, as he calls God's building.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You are God's building, you are God's temple.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Scripture says, and every one of you who know Christ is part of that house.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So to build up the body, what does that mean?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Really part of that house?

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<v Kelly Kinder>So to build up the body, what does that mean really?

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<v Kelly Kinder>We're doing whatever helps the church and the individuals who make it up.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I just think of it like this to be all we're meant to be in Christ, to be all we're meant to be.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Are you all you're meant to be this morning?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Not yet right.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So that's why church is so important, because the body helps you become all that you're meant to be, and that would include everything from being stronger spiritually, wiser, more mature, more patient, more kind, more holy, etc.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Etc.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Etc.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So that you look and I look more and more and more like Jesus Christ.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So the ultimate purpose of the gifts thing is for the, for the church, to build itself up in love.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The goal, folks, is the gifts are not the goal, love is the goal.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And Paul says the the goal of my instruction is what it's love first with pure heart and then a sincere faith.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So, my friends, don't become so enamored with the gifts that you lose sight of this goal love, the gifts, are merely presence of grace.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We're supposed to pass out to every person we see who has a need.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So my question for us this morning is what did you come to give away today?

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<v Kelly Kinder>As Paul says that if I have gifts but I don't have love, I am nothing.

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<v Kelly Kinder>See, gifts are temporary, love is eternal.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So that's what we want to be about, and so we often get caught up in this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>What did I experience at church today?

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<v Kelly Kinder>What did I experience?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Well, here's a better question who did I love?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Who did I love?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Well, that brings us to our second truth this morning, what we may call the essential principle of encounter.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This is so cool, the principle of encounter.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And for that let's turn now to 1 Corinthians, chapter 14.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And here he uses chapter 14 sort of as an end result of all he's been saying, from chapter 8 through chapter up to this point, chapter 14.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And here's this Corinthian church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This is a church with amazing potential.

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<v Kelly Kinder>In fact, paul says.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says you are not lacking in any gift as you wait for the revealing of our Lord, jesus Christ, and you're ready, you've got it all the church with amazing potential.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But they also had a host of problems.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This was one of the most problematic churches in the New Testament and one of their biggest problem was disorder in the time they met together concerning their gifts, trouble over spiritual gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>For example, when it came to the gift of tongues, there were some who didn't understand what other people were saying when they shared the message in tongues, and so some people were offended by that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You ever thought about it?

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<v Kelly Kinder>There are some people who just haven't been around that gift and they don't know and they don't understand.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Can you imagine what was happening in the early church, this church that Paul is talking to?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Is that conceivably?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Everybody who had this spiritual gift called tongues was standing up and everybody was talking at the same time in a language that nobody understood how confusing, how chaotic.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And Paul's just telling them that tongues aren't helpful to anyone if no one understands it.

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<v Kelly Kinder>They're confusing.

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<v Kelly Kinder>On the other hand, there were some people who prophesied, who would tend to just kind of take up all the airtime.

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<v Kelly Kinder>They got up there and they got the microphone and they just went on and on and on, and so there was some competition, if you will, to speak and to be up front, and many were speaking also at the same time, but very few were polite enough to listen to each other.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So you kind of get this Paul is looking at all this and he's going.

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<v Kelly Kinder>What in the world?

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<v Kelly Kinder>In essence, they were acting more like children with toys than they were Christians of faith.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So the result was what?

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<v Kelly Kinder>There was more confusion than understanding.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Whenever they got together and what Paul was doing, he's calling for spiritual maturity in this church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says stop being kids, stop being children, stop thinking like children, but think in a mature way.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so, in order to correct this chaos, paul has to remind them of a fundamental principle that would help them to encounter the very presence of Christ that they so desperately desired but they had missed.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Here's the principle found in verses 33 and 40.

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<v Kelly Kinder>First, verse 33 of chapter 14, god is not a God of disorder, but of peace.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Verse 33 of chapter 14, god is not a God of disorder, but of peace.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Therefore, jump down to verse 40,.

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<v Kelly Kinder>All things should be done decently and in order.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And I was just thinking about this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>God is not a God of disorder, but of peace.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So all things should be done decently, in order.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That brings us back to what I thought about is that if God is a God of order, where do we see that?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Most of all, in creation.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Everybody can look up and see God at some degree, at some level, and I had a picture.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Have you got that picture I wanted to show?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let us look at this for just a minute.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Not sure it's there.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So we're in the fall of the year.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Have you ever taken the time just to sit on your porch and pick up a leaf that's fallen into the yard and hold it up and look at the amazing design and order that's in that leaf?

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<v Kelly Kinder>God is a God of order.

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<v Kelly Kinder>In other words, there's symmetry, there's balance, there's design, there's order, there's even timing.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The leaves don't fall, but when In the fall, there's seasons, there's seasons, and we're supposed to learn something from that by watching what we see in creation.

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<v Kelly Kinder>How many of you lately have opened your closet or looked at your desk or went into your garage?

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<v Kelly Kinder>If you open your closet, does everything in there fall out on the floor in front of you?

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<v Kelly Kinder>But see, there's something within us that I think it's God designed that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You know, I looked at my desk this morning before I left and, boy, in preparation for the message, I had books everywhere.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It was a mess and sort of along the way it starts messing with my mind.

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<v Kelly Kinder>My wife was telling me this morning she had heard something about how they had recent research that said, when your brain is so caught up with all these things, it actually messes with us in a physical way in our brain.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so this is the way God wants us to look at this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Make a comparison with what you see with what I require in worship.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Jesus stated this specifically in John 4, 24.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Do you get the connection here?

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<v Kelly Kinder>God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so Paul's argument here is because God is a God of order and peace, your worship should reflect his nature no chaos, no confusion In spirit and in truth, in spirit means with the heart, as opposed to rituals or maybe traditions, but in truth it means accurately, in line with his nature.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The best thing we could have that would help us in our worship is for you and me to know who God is in his nature, and that will guide us.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It will align us with everything he wants to accomplish, instead of us kind of getting different ideas about how we should do church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So here's the thing If you want to encounter God when we're together, then you must understand how God is to be worshiped.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's what Jesus is teaching in John 4.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so the idea is to always value, always value highest, the clearest communication, so that people can understand and appreciate and therefore respond to what's being said by the Spirit of God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We have to understand.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And so Paul contrasts these two gifts of prophecy and tongues that they were so up in disagreement about.

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<v Kelly Kinder>In fact, paul expects here's what he expects that clear communication will result in people who visit he calls them outsiders or unbelievers they too will have a genuine encounter with the living God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I was talking about my time years ago at the college group, and every time we'd sit in there it was uncanny how sometimes the message was not anything about evangelism, but there were people who heard the word and got saved.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And we would have people every Sunday coming to Christ and thinking, well, he didn't even share the gospel specific, like I would have done it, and yet the Spirit of God spoke directly, cutting them to the heart and helping them see their need for Jesus Christ for their sins.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So here's what he gives us an example of this.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This is so cool.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says if, therefore, verse 23, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues and outsiders or unbelievers enter, and will they not say that you are out of your mind?

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<v Kelly Kinder>In other words, if no one understands someone who speaks in tongues and there's no interpreter, they won't understand, in fact, they'll think you're crazy.

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<v Kelly Kinder>They won't understand, in fact, they'll think you're crazy.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But if all prophesy and an unbeliever or outsider enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all, the secrets of his heart are disclosed and so, falling on his face, he will worship God and declare that God is really among you.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Do you see how God's word can, if it's clearly presented, or the person who is speaking the mind of God through a prophecy or a word of maybe a song or a hymn or some kind of instruction.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If that's revealed through the Spirit of God to us as people and to those who are outsiders, it can flip everything.

00:26:26.366 --> 00:26:36.501
<v Kelly Kinder>Because it says the enemy Satan blinds the minds of unbelievers so they can't even see the gospel.

00:26:36.501 --> 00:26:48.223
<v Kelly Kinder>So it takes the power of God to turn that around so that people can actually understand what God intends for them to understand, and the gifts of the Spirit help us do that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So this is nothing less, folks, than spiritual awakening.

00:26:52.746 --> 00:26:55.299
<v Kelly Kinder>Do you want that for our church?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Absolutely.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If Paul is basically saying this, we can expect to encounter the risen Christ when we worship the true God in the right way, not how we think he ought to be worshipped, but as he is in spirit and in truth.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That's so important.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Lastly, having clearly in mind the purpose of God through the gifts, that is what is it.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Build up the body in love and then here the principle for encounter, worship the true God in the gifts.

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<v Kelly Kinder>That is what is it.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Build up the body in love and then hear the principle for encounter, worship the true God in the right way.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We come last to the proper protocol for worship, and this is from our readings this morning.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And the question I just ask is how can we best allow the Spirit of God to work among us in our time together?

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<v Kelly Kinder>I mean, our time is pretty short, unless you're in a church that goes for hours.

00:27:49.414 --> 00:27:52.444
<v Kelly Kinder>Our time is pretty short together on a Sunday.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So we've got this narrow window for God to do His thing.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So I hope we all come expecting that God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Will we get ourselves in a position to hear His voice, the proper protocol for worship.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And let me just say this we certainly, as elders, we certainly don't want to quench or grieve the Spirit or control anything that he's doing, what he desires to do among us, but we do want to follow Christ's instruction through Paul.

00:28:24.606 --> 00:28:26.116
<v Kelly Kinder>Here Paul doesn't say I'm giving you my opinion, here's what I think we ought to do among us, but we do want to follow Christ's instruction through Paul.

00:28:26.116 --> 00:28:29.861
<v Kelly Kinder>Here Paul doesn't say I'm giving you my opinion, here's what I think we ought to do.

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<v Kelly Kinder>No, he says this is the command of the Lord.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So I want to just kind of make this last part just as practical as we can.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Here Let me just say a couple of things.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And here's the thing there may be several people who come here on a Sunday, who have on any given Sunday, they believe they have something from God to share with the church.

00:28:52.386 --> 00:29:00.566
<v Kelly Kinder>And the question to ask in every time is will this word build up the church in love?

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says in verse 26,.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says in verse 26, when you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let all things be done for building up.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Can somebody get me some water?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let all things be done for building up, thank you.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And I just kind of want to tell you what this looks like for us as the pastors, because sometimes you'll see someone come up occasionally with something that they'd like to share, and that's great.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But what is going on with us?

00:29:47.685 --> 00:29:49.747
<v Kelly Kinder>What's going on with us?

00:29:49.747 --> 00:29:52.548
<v Kelly Kinder>What are we talking about when somebody does that?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Well, I'll tell you.

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<v Kelly Kinder>One of the things we do is we listen to hear is this biblical?

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<v Kelly Kinder>What is this person sharing?

00:29:59.192 --> 00:30:01.376
<v Kelly Kinder>Is it biblical?

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<v Kelly Kinder>And then we also look, I think and this is sort of not easy to do we try to get a sense on what the Holy Spirit has been doing all along in the worship service.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And I will tell you just as an example, a real example.

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<v Kelly Kinder>You don't get to see that because we see it from the end result.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We know what the message is going to be, but I don't coordinate with anybody else about the songs.

00:30:25.827 --> 00:30:28.575
<v Kelly Kinder>We don't coordinate with anybody else about the songs.

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<v Kelly Kinder>We don't coordinate with anybody else about anyone that gets up and shares.

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<v Kelly Kinder>God just does it and we're trying to discern is this the Holy Spirit and example?

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<v Kelly Kinder>This morning I was actually thinking of the Scripture.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I was actually going to share that and Brooke ended up reading that very scripture.

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<v Kelly Kinder>See how that kind of works.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And we're trying to see, we're trying to put all these things together and trying to discern is this of God?

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<v Kelly Kinder>So that we can get a clear message, so that it would be understandable when that happens.

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<v Kelly Kinder>I hate it for you but we as pastors, we get to see all that and that's why I'm telling you you just got to understand God does things that a lot of times we don't see God's at work in this place when you may think nothing is happening.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He is walking among the lampstands, folks.

00:31:26.803 --> 00:31:28.260
<v Kelly Kinder>He's walking among His church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So we don't want to grieve or quench the Spirit and when someone shares a message, it could be, for example, something that's spontaneous off the cuff, as God gives them in the moment something to say, or it could be something they've thought about all week.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Both of those are okay.

00:31:49.121 --> 00:31:52.805
<v Kelly Kinder>There's nothing magical about something being spontaneous.

00:31:52.805 --> 00:31:55.682
<v Kelly Kinder>If it's for God's people, that's okay.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So now in Paul, in verse 26 through 40, he gives us these specific guidances on how we should order our times together.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And again he's playing these two scriptures, these two gifts off from one another prophecy and tongues, because it's kind of representative of all the other things that God might want to do.

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<v Kelly Kinder>First of all, tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He says, speaking of that, the Lord, not Paul limits the number of speakers with the gift of tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And then he asks for them to restrain themselves when an interpreter is not present.

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<v Kelly Kinder>In other words, they're supposed to exercise some self-control.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or three at most, and each in turn, and let someone interpret.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But if there's no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So a few bullet points into there.

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<v Kelly Kinder>First, he's telling us tongues are not to be prohibited.

00:32:55.425 --> 00:32:56.458
<v Kelly Kinder>They're a spiritual gift.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So don't prevent anyone from speaking in tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So that's verse 39.

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<v Kelly Kinder>But Paul does have some conditions here.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let's say, for example, that a person comes in and he has a message in tongues and what Paul says he says it up in verse 13.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He said that person who thinks they have a message in tongues should first pray privately verse 13, that he would understand what he doesn't understand when he's speaking in the Spirit in tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>He should pray that he would understand it so he can give the interpretation.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Maybe he hears accurately, maybe he hears should have bought a Honda, but I bought a Kia and of course I'm being silly, but I want you to understand that the enemy can counterfeit stuff like that.

00:33:45.626 --> 00:33:51.425
<v Kelly Kinder>This is what Paul was having to deal with with that first Corinthian church.

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<v Kelly Kinder>A lot of people were coming out of the sibling cults and it was normal for them to talk at the same time, to have ecstatic utterances in the spirit tongues, and even anthropologists will tell you there are religions all around the world where their adherents speak in tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>So tongues doesn't necessarily mean it's of God.

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<v Kelly Kinder>There needs to be someone who interprets what is said, the person who believes he has a message in tongues.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If that's the case and they feel like they have a clear, beneficial interpretation, what should happen?

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<v Kelly Kinder>Well, they should give that message in English if they know what it is.

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<v Kelly Kinder>And what happens is, at that moment, if you've come up and shared with us, we're going to give you the microphone, or hold on to it for some of the cases, and let you share that message.

00:34:45.648 --> 00:34:52.483
<v Kelly Kinder>And if you can interpret that message I think we had one last week then all good and fine.

00:34:52.483 --> 00:34:56.847
<v Kelly Kinder>But if they give the message in a tongue, no one understands it.

00:34:56.847 --> 00:34:58.161
<v Kelly Kinder>What's the pastor going to do?

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<v Kelly Kinder>He'll say does anyone here have the interpretation?

00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:03.768
<v Kelly Kinder>Anyone?

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<v Kelly Kinder>And if there is someone, he would get up and share that message in English so we all could understand.

00:35:11.663 --> 00:35:16.605
<v Kelly Kinder>And then, if not, paul says well, you need to just sit down, please.

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<v Kelly Kinder>This is not of God, and so that's sort of the way that works.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Prophecy, let's go to that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>It's sort of similar.

00:35:35.201 --> 00:35:37.710
<v Kelly Kinder>There's some similarities with the protocol for tongues, but it's a little different.

00:35:37.710 --> 00:35:38.393
<v Kelly Kinder>A little different in some ways.

00:35:38.393 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Kelly Kinder>Paul says the Lord again, not Paul limits the number of speakers with the gift of prophecy and he has them also restrain themselves when something is revealed to them to another speaker.

00:35:54.516 --> 00:35:55.661
<v Kelly Kinder>So listen to the scripture.

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<v Kelly Kinder>Let two or three prophets speak and let the others weigh what is said.

00:35:59.465 --> 00:36:07.414
<v Kelly Kinder>If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent, for you all can prophesy, one by one.

00:36:07.414 --> 00:36:08.858
<v Kelly Kinder>He doesn't mean the whole congregation.

00:36:08.858 --> 00:36:09.278
<v Kelly Kinder>Get that.

00:36:09.278 --> 00:36:16.782
<v Kelly Kinder>He's saying all you who have the prophetic word today, so that all may learn and all be encouraged.

00:36:16.782 --> 00:36:19.449
<v Kelly Kinder>And the spirit of prophets are subject to prophets.

00:36:19.449 --> 00:36:24.362
<v Kelly Kinder>So bullet points Number one is two to three prophets should speak.

00:36:25.103 --> 00:36:28.028
<v Kelly Kinder>And when we're thinking about prophecy it's not so much.

00:36:28.028 --> 00:36:31.003
<v Kelly Kinder>A lot of times we think of that as foretelling.

00:36:31.003 --> 00:36:33.885
<v Kelly Kinder>Sometimes we tell or foretelling, telling the future.

00:36:33.885 --> 00:36:37.981
<v Kelly Kinder>But it's really foretelling, it's explaining.

00:36:37.981 --> 00:36:47.005
<v Kelly Kinder>But Paul specifically says the prophet is a person verse 3, that builds, encourages and comforts people.

00:36:47.005 --> 00:36:52.326
<v Kelly Kinder>So if you're down, you'll get a benefit from that.

00:36:52.326 --> 00:36:54.722
<v Kelly Kinder>If you're discouraged, you'll be benefited by that.

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<v Kelly Kinder>If you feel like you need somebody to give you a little bump and say, yeah, go ahead and do that, that's for you.

00:37:00.762 --> 00:37:13.170
<v Kelly Kinder>That is the prophetic word that's given, not so much predictive as basically something for the here and now, to encourage the body.

00:37:14.014 --> 00:37:16.925
<v Kelly Kinder>And then he says others should evaluate or judge the message.

00:37:16.925 --> 00:37:18.782
<v Kelly Kinder>They should weigh in on what is said.

00:37:18.782 --> 00:37:23.586
<v Kelly Kinder>And the question there is about who are the others that are supposed to be weighing in.

00:37:23.586 --> 00:37:27.885
<v Kelly Kinder>Some people think it's the prophet, people who have the prophetic gifts themselves.

00:37:27.885 --> 00:37:34.663
<v Kelly Kinder>Other times people say, well, it could be the whole body.

00:37:34.663 --> 00:37:38.771
<v Kelly Kinder>And here's where I think we may sometimes miss it.

00:37:38.771 --> 00:37:41.302
<v Kelly Kinder>I think the early church, when people shared these things, probably just stopped.

00:37:41.302 --> 00:37:43.563
<v Kelly Kinder>We feel like we have to keep moving.

00:37:43.563 --> 00:37:48.025
<v Kelly Kinder>They just stopped and they weighed these things, and what did they do?

00:37:48.025 --> 00:37:51.105
<v Kelly Kinder>They prayed for discernment.

00:37:51.105 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Kelly Kinder>So we're so in a rush to make it happen, and sometimes we just need to stop and pray and ask God what are you saying here?

00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:02.842
<v Kelly Kinder>God Is this?

00:38:02.842 --> 00:38:14.351
<v Kelly Kinder>You and so others evaluate or judge the message, and so any of these prophets if it's prophets, they could also weigh in on these words and give their thoughts.

00:38:14.351 --> 00:38:15.835
<v Kelly Kinder>Yeah, this is God.

00:38:15.835 --> 00:38:16.476
<v Kelly Kinder>This is God.

00:38:16.476 --> 00:38:18.028
<v Kelly Kinder>It has the character of God.

00:38:18.028 --> 00:38:20.952
<v Kelly Kinder>This is biblical, this is encouraging to the body.

00:38:22.065 --> 00:38:26.336
<v Kelly Kinder>And then the last, the one that he says in verses 30 to 31, is take turns.

00:38:26.336 --> 00:38:29.893
<v Kelly Kinder>I mean, don't get up there and be a Mike Hogg.

00:38:29.893 --> 00:38:33.614
<v Kelly Kinder>Realize there are other people that have a word from God too.

00:38:33.614 --> 00:38:37.407
<v Kelly Kinder>You have the Spirit of God in you too.

00:38:37.407 --> 00:38:39.929
<v Kelly Kinder>So if another person receives a prophetic message.

00:38:39.929 --> 00:38:44.014
<v Kelly Kinder>While the first one is speaking, it says the first person should sit down.

00:38:44.014 --> 00:38:47.458
<v Kelly Kinder>I think it doesn't mean that he necessarily interrupts that prophet.

00:38:47.458 --> 00:38:47.980
<v Kelly Kinder>It could be.

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:56.313
<v Kelly Kinder>Have you ever been in a conversation where someone is saying something and you say let me stop you just a minute because it's relevant to the thing they just said?

00:38:56.313 --> 00:38:57.135
<v Kelly Kinder>It could be that.

00:38:57.135 --> 00:39:06.528
<v Kelly Kinder>Or it could just mean, well, let the guy finish, but he needs to finish, hurry up and finish and sit down and let the next guy go who's got something to say.

00:39:06.528 --> 00:39:09.673
<v Kelly Kinder>So that's two.

00:39:10.355 --> 00:39:28.076
<v Kelly Kinder>Now it says the third one, paul, wants to address his women with questions, and when I was talking to the elders they said well, you are a brave man, because it says the women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak but should be in submission.

00:39:28.076 --> 00:39:36.813
<v Kelly Kinder>As the law also says, if there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

00:39:36.813 --> 00:39:38.769
<v Kelly Kinder>You are a brave man.

00:39:38.769 --> 00:39:46.742
<v Kelly Kinder>So, oh, my goodness, look at the time Kind of got in my way.

00:39:46.742 --> 00:39:47.525
<v Kelly Kinder>Now I'm not afraid.

00:39:47.525 --> 00:39:48.610
<v Kelly Kinder>I'm not afraid of you women.

00:39:48.610 --> 00:39:53.610
<v Kelly Kinder>That was probably not smart, patty.

00:39:53.610 --> 00:40:01.096
<v Kelly Kinder>Okay, really, I'm really not afraid, because this is the Word of God.

00:40:02.326 --> 00:40:10.851
<v Kelly Kinder>The problem is understanding it, interpreting it right, and of course we don't have all the clues.

00:40:10.851 --> 00:40:12.311
<v Kelly Kinder>We don't have all the answers here.

00:40:12.311 --> 00:40:14.306
<v Kelly Kinder>We're trying to.

00:40:14.306 --> 00:40:22.777
<v Kelly Kinder>You know, if you read through the book of 1 Corinthians, what Paul does is he answers questions that we don't have the questions for.

00:40:22.777 --> 00:40:26.655
<v Kelly Kinder>He gives the answers to the questions that we don't have.

00:40:26.655 --> 00:40:29.454
<v Kelly Kinder>So we have to sort of read through the lines here.

00:40:29.454 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Kelly Kinder>Here's the thing Be silent, it cannot mean that women are never to speak in church, because in chapter 11, it says they both can prophesy and they can pray publicly in church.

00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.351
<v Kelly Kinder>So we can't mean that.

00:40:46.351 --> 00:40:53.311
<v Kelly Kinder>So I got to thinking I'm a little bit of a pickle here, so I don't know what to tell you.

00:40:53.311 --> 00:40:55.893
<v Kelly Kinder>No, I'm kidding, I had.

00:40:55.913 --> 00:41:05.552
<v Kelly Kinder>This thought in my mind is that when I'm envisioning what Paul is experiencing, he's looking on the outside end and he's seeing all this chaos and confusion going on.

00:41:05.552 --> 00:41:15.836
<v Kelly Kinder>And he's already told those who have tongues, sometimes they just need to be silent, and prophets, sometimes you need to sit down and be quiet.

00:41:15.836 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Kelly Kinder>It's not your turn.

00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:21.054
<v Kelly Kinder>And he's telling the women a similar thing be silent.

00:41:21.054 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Kelly Kinder>His concern is always to hear clearly what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:45.507
<v Kelly Kinder>And so here's what I envision Say, a prophet gets up to speak or a tongue is given, an interpretation is given in the church, and someone raises a hand, a woman raises her hands and has a question, and so it sort of gets people.

00:41:45.507 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Kelly Kinder>There's a you know what a rabbit trail is, right.

00:41:52.559 --> 00:42:02.516
<v Kelly Kinder>So the question brings that whole body off on a rabbit trail, and so they really start getting off of the thing, the very thing that God wants to say.

00:42:02.516 --> 00:42:08.978
<v Kelly Kinder>And he said don't do that, let those women just ask the question at home from their husbands.

00:42:09.905 --> 00:42:24.695
<v Kelly Kinder>That brings up the other thing which I think is more significant, and Paul is concerned to maintain social conventions, because in that day, it was a shame for women to talk to another man that wasn't her husband.

00:42:24.695 --> 00:42:41.777
<v Kelly Kinder>In fact, that was true in the marketplace, it was true in the churches, and Paul's basically trying to say I don't want you to look like the pagans, and so you need to respect these social conventions, because it looks bad.

00:42:41.777 --> 00:42:46.213
<v Kelly Kinder>And I think Paul is reflecting that to some degree.

00:42:46.213 --> 00:42:48.585
<v Kelly Kinder>Well, we don't have that today in the 21st century, right?

00:42:48.585 --> 00:42:52.612
<v Kelly Kinder>It's not the same culture quite, thank the Lord, right.

00:42:53.313 --> 00:43:08.327
<v Kelly Kinder>But I think it's basically to respect the idea that God has a message here, and everyone should minister in an intelligible manner so that everyone who comes and listens will be edified.

00:43:08.327 --> 00:43:09.568
<v Kelly Kinder>They'll be built up in love.

00:43:09.568 --> 00:43:18.481
<v Kelly Kinder>That's the goal, and great things can happen, my friends, when we listen to the word of God.

00:43:18.481 --> 00:43:25.978
<v Kelly Kinder>Spirit-led worship can happen when we will believe and follow and honor God's word.

00:43:25.978 --> 00:43:27.690
<v Kelly Kinder>You believe that?

00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:34.137
<v Kelly Kinder>Well, let me leave you with just a few little bullet points I just want to share with you.

00:43:34.137 --> 00:43:35.648
<v Kelly Kinder>Then we'll get out of here.

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<v Kelly Kinder>The first is I want you to understand we as a church, we believe that all the gifts of the first century are available for the 21st century.

00:43:45.757 --> 00:43:55.490
<v Kelly Kinder>We're a full gifted church, and so one of the things I just encourage you to do is, if you don't know what your gift is, there's a fit class for that that Mark Maile teaches.

00:43:55.490 --> 00:44:04.612
<v Kelly Kinder>Another way you could do is just follow some people around that you admire, who you see operating in a particular gift.

00:44:04.612 --> 00:44:10.429
<v Kelly Kinder>There's all kinds of gifts, and the ones that are listed, by the way, in the New Testament are just representative.

00:44:10.429 --> 00:44:23.315
<v Kelly Kinder>So God is a multifaceted God, but I just encourage you to find your gift, and the other way to do it is just to try it out what you think you might be.

00:44:23.315 --> 00:44:27.849
<v Kelly Kinder>Step out in faith and begin to serve the body.

00:44:27.849 --> 00:44:36.260
<v Kelly Kinder>None of us, let me say it again, none of us who belong to Christ should be sitting doing nothing.

00:44:36.260 --> 00:44:40.735
<v Kelly Kinder>I hope that doesn't step on your toes too badly.

00:44:40.735 --> 00:44:43.009
<v Kelly Kinder>But you know, I have this.

00:44:44.152 --> 00:44:53.684
<v Kelly Kinder>When I moved into our house years ago, one of the things I noticed at the bottom of the foundation, I thought, okay, there's something wrong with that.

00:44:53.684 --> 00:44:55.429
<v Kelly Kinder>But the closer I got to the corner of the house, I saw, okay, there's something wrong with that.

00:44:55.429 --> 00:45:03.501
<v Kelly Kinder>The closer I got to the corner of the house, I saw a brick was missing and I thought, how odd, here's a brick.

00:45:03.501 --> 00:45:04.585
<v Kelly Kinder>Where's the brick?

00:45:04.585 --> 00:45:06.532
<v Kelly Kinder>I looked down on the ground and I couldn't find it.

00:45:06.532 --> 00:45:08.244
<v Kelly Kinder>I had to go get another one to fit in there.

00:45:08.244 --> 00:45:10.911
<v Kelly Kinder>No, I take that back.

00:45:10.911 --> 00:45:13.836
<v Kelly Kinder>I did find the brick on the ground and I put it back in place.

00:45:13.836 --> 00:45:14.978
<v Kelly Kinder>It was out of place.

00:45:14.978 --> 00:45:16.811
<v Kelly Kinder>It wasn't where it was supposed to be.

00:45:16.864 --> 00:45:21.356
<v Kelly Kinder>And we're like that a lot of times is that we're just sort of out of the church life.

00:45:21.356 --> 00:45:30.989
<v Kelly Kinder>We need to be back into the place God wants us to be so that we can minister to the rest of the building right or the rest of the house.

00:45:30.989 --> 00:45:36.190
<v Kelly Kinder>1 Corinthians says something interesting 2.12,.

00:45:36.190 --> 00:45:45.434
<v Kelly Kinder>Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God.

00:45:45.434 --> 00:45:54.420
<v Kelly Kinder>And here's the other thing that relates to we all have to become sensitive to the Holy Spirit.

00:45:54.420 --> 00:45:56.425
<v Kelly Kinder>And so, thinking about this, we all have to become sensitive to the Holy Spirit.

00:45:56.425 --> 00:46:01.954
<v Kelly Kinder>And so, thinking about this, we all have physical senses, but you also have a spiritual sense.

00:46:01.954 --> 00:46:06.925
<v Kelly Kinder>We're not just body alone, we're body, soul and spirit.

00:46:06.925 --> 00:46:18.067
<v Kelly Kinder>There's a physical and there's an immaterial part of us, and we all have to learn how to be in tune with that spiritual side, in tune with God, spirit to spirit.

00:46:18.067 --> 00:46:24.088
<v Kelly Kinder>And so when we cultivate our spiritual side, we become more sensitive to what the spirit wants to do when we're together.

00:46:24.088 --> 00:46:26.855
<v Kelly Kinder>And we just kind of do that.

00:46:26.855 --> 00:46:29.166
<v Kelly Kinder>We have to train our spiritual side.

00:46:29.166 --> 00:46:33.496
<v Kelly Kinder>We do that through the word of God, through prayer, by being in fellowship with one another.

00:46:42.090 --> 00:46:45.085
<v Kelly Kinder>And then the last thing we're often fearful, I think, of what we don't understand.

00:46:45.085 --> 00:46:54.916
<v Kelly Kinder>Maybe we haven't seen, or maybe are really focused in on our physical faculties because we don't maybe see quite yet in a spiritual way, but that doesn't make the spiritual less real.

00:46:54.916 --> 00:46:58.952
<v Kelly Kinder>It doesn't make the spiritual less real, doesn't make the spiritual less real.

00:46:58.952 --> 00:47:03.335
<v Kelly Kinder>In fact, it might be more real than the physical.

00:47:03.335 --> 00:47:16.793
<v Kelly Kinder>I know it's eternal and our physical is not so, and I say this, but in spite of I guess in spite of us at times.

00:47:18.998 --> 00:47:20.019
<v Kelly Kinder>You know the Lord.

00:47:20.019 --> 00:47:34.617
<v Kelly Kinder>He is building up his church in love and he's going to do that through surrendered believers who believe in the gifts, who use their gifts and serve with their gifts to the glory of God.

00:47:34.617 --> 00:47:35.659
<v Kelly Kinder>Amen.

00:47:35.659 --> 00:47:37.206
<v Kelly Kinder>So let's pray.

00:47:37.206 --> 00:47:40.414
<v Kelly Kinder>Father, we're so grateful for what you do in our midst.

00:47:40.414 --> 00:47:47.135
<v Kelly Kinder>Lord, we know you're here, we know you're at work and, lord, we just invite you to work even more among us.

00:47:47.135 --> 00:48:01.568
<v Kelly Kinder>Lord, help us to use our gifts in faithful, extravagant ways, lord, that we don't keep those gifts to ourselves, but, lord, as presents.

00:48:01.568 --> 00:48:08.358
<v Kelly Kinder>We come to every Sunday service and every Wednesday, every time we meet together and we think who will I love today through my gifts.

00:48:08.358 --> 00:48:09.505
<v Kelly Kinder>Do that.

00:48:09.505 --> 00:48:12.329
<v Kelly Kinder>We pray in Jesus' name, amen.
