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<v Scott Wiens>So I'm going to begin the sermon this morning by asking you a question, and the question is fairly simple.

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<v Scott Wiens>I want to ask you to think about somebody that you know, that you consider a true follower of Jesus, someone that you would consider a righteous person.

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<v Scott Wiens>Someone you know, not someone in the past, someone you would know Now.

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<v Scott Wiens>Don't put your hand on anybody or don't high-five somebody, but I want you to seriously think about that person, get their face in your mind.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now I want you to ask yourself a question why do you consider that person righteous?

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<v Scott Wiens>Why do you consider that person righteous?

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<v Scott Wiens>Why do you consider them righteous?

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<v Scott Wiens>Is it because of the way they live their life?

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<v Scott Wiens>Is it maybe because of how they've interacted with you over the years?

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<v Scott Wiens>Is it maybe because you happen to know a little bit about their relationship with God?

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<v Scott Wiens>Why are they righteous?

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, the reason I wanted you to go through this exercise is it's really it's applicable to what we're going to talk about today.

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<v Scott Wiens>In the scripture that we're going to cover, jesus is challenging his disciples and their definition of righteousness, and I wanted each of us to think about that because it's really important how we measure righteousness.

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<v Scott Wiens>It is important because you see how we define righteousness is going to be how we pursue righteousness right.

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<v Scott Wiens>So your model is very important.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I just want to read the text for today.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're in Matthew, chapter 6, beginning in verse 5.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're going to go through verse 18.

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<v Scott Wiens>Matthew 6, verse 5 through 18.

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<v Scott Wiens>Verse 5, and when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the street corners that they may be seen by others.

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<v Scott Wiens>Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret, will reward you.

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<v Scott Wiens>And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

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<v Scott Wiens>Don't be like them, for your father knows what you need before you ask him.

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<v Scott Wiens>Pray like this then our father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.

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<v Scott Wiens>Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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<v Scott Wiens>Verse 11,.

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<v Scott Wiens>Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors, and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.

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<v Scott Wiens>For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

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<v Scott Wiens>But if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

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<v Scott Wiens>And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others.

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<v Scott Wiens>Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your faith that your fasting may not be seen by others, but by your Father, who is in secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

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<v Scott Wiens>Let's pray, father.

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<v Scott Wiens>We thank you for this passage of Scripture, jesus.

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<v Scott Wiens>We thank you for this amazing teaching, for these words that have lasted these thousands of years and how we read them afresh today.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, as we go through this passage and as we examine ourselves and what our definition of righteousness is, god, I pray that you would work with each one of our hearts.

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<v Scott Wiens>I pray that you would help us to dare to be vulnerable to you this morning, that we would dare to lay ourselves before you with humility and to learn anew sometime for some.

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<v Scott Wiens>Learn anew what you were talking to us about, what true righteousness means.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, we pray this in the name of Jesus, amen.

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<v Scott Wiens>True righteousness means Father.

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<v Scott Wiens>We pray this in the name of Jesus, amen.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, we've come to sermon number five in our series that we've called Red Letters, in which we're walking through the most famous sermon Jesus ever gave, the Sermon on the Mount.

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<v Scott Wiens>And today we're going to look specifically at what Jesus teaches his disciples about two things prayer and fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now I hope that through this we're going to see how this passage Jesus was teaching them, not only about how to pray and how to fast, but rather how their identity as a child of God informs both of those disciplines.

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<v Scott Wiens>So let's first get into the context.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if you're new here, if you haven't been here before, maybe you're catching up.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're in this sermon series we're covering on again called Red Letters, and we're talking about this famous Sermon on the Mount.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, by the way, we had a great Kelly really gave us a good foundation for this whole series and this Sermon on the Mount.

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<v Scott Wiens>It does say that he was addressing his disciples, although some people think it was a whole group of people.

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<v Scott Wiens>It really doesn't matter.

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<v Scott Wiens>The reality was he was talking about some very core truths regarding what we as Christians and how we should live our lives.

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<v Scott Wiens>But, beginning in chapter 6, we're seeing Jesus addressing three specific religious activities, three very specific ones giving, praying and fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, now it's interesting as he deals with these, all three of these, he uses a very similar technique, and that is the first thing he says is this is how not to do it, and he's using examples that they would definitely know They'd definitely seen right.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then he says this is how you should do it.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he's using examples that they would definitely know they had definitely seen right.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then he says this is how you should do it.

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<v Scott Wiens>All right, because he wanted to help them understand that the religious leaders were doing it a certain way, but the real issue was their motivation, it was their heart, and that's really important.

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<v Scott Wiens>And last week, tyler kind of kicked off this section of it by talking about giving and how we, as Christians, should approach the whole concept of giving, and he outlined the truth that practicing our righteousness isn't about earning it, but living like you've received a free gift and how we give that to others.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was really great and we're really going to kind of tie into this because it's all the same context.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, and Jesus now continues to teach his disciples in the second part of chapter six by addressing now prayer and fasting, and so this is really good.

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<v Scott Wiens>So let's first tackle the concept of prayer.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, as Jesus did with regards to the act of giving, he now talks about what's the wrong way to do it, and I love this.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, in part of doing it wrong, he says they're doing it wrong in two specific ways, and the first one was this public prayer, this inappropriate public prayer that they were going through.

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<v Scott Wiens>So in verse 5 of chapter 6, it says and when you pray, by the way, we should pray, right, he says when, not if you pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>When you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners that they may be seen by others.

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<v Scott Wiens>Truly, I say, they've received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now you have to understand the audience here, these disciples.

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<v Scott Wiens>They would have witnessed this their whole life.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, they would have seen this all the time the Pharisees standing on street corners praying, then the synagogues praying loudly.

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<v Scott Wiens>And, by the way, they weren't leading others in prayer, right, they were just praying themselves.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's like if suddenly, you know, kelly, were to stand up and just say and so I start praying loudly for everybody to hear him talking to God, not representing us, but just him and God.

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<v Scott Wiens>That would kind of be a little weird, but there, for their culture, that was commonplace, that's what they saw their whole life.

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<v Scott Wiens>And, by the way, he doesn't here mention the scribes and Pharisees.

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<v Scott Wiens>He uses that wonderful term.

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<v Scott Wiens>We love hypocrites, hypocrites, but we know pretty much the audience, because these were the dudes that stood in street corners and in Matthew 23, he literally calls them out as scribes and Pharisees.

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<v Scott Wiens>You hypocrites, you hypocrites.

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<v Scott Wiens>And, by the way, just so you get the concept, they literally would find a busy street corner, not a side street somewhere.

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<v Scott Wiens>They would find a street corner so they could see them from all four directions and then they'd start going in.

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<v Scott Wiens>Can you imagine going up to a street corner and go oh, here, this is the Pharisee prayer corner and have four or five of these dudes, just you know, praying and going like this, like this la la, la, la, la la.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what they did and that was considered righteous.

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<v Scott Wiens>And it's interesting because their focus was not above but it was below.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now you might say, okay, I understand what you mean by not above, but what do you mean by below.

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<v Scott Wiens>Trust me, these scribes and Pharisees looked at anyone else as below them.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's the way they viewed them.

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<v Scott Wiens>They wanted the lowly people, these people that weren't like them, to acknowledge their piety and their righteousness.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what they wanted.

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<v Scott Wiens>They weren't focusing on God, they were focusing on letting people see who I am.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I love when Jesus said they've received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>They've received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>Why?

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<v Scott Wiens>Because really, whether they knew it or not, their heart wasn't to gain anything, to draw closer to God.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was to be patted on the back and said yes, you are righteous.

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<v Scott Wiens>They were looking at it from the wrong place.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now he follows up this description about the wrong way to pray, this whole public prayer, versus how we are supposed to pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>In verse 6, he said but when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father, who is in secret, and your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

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<v Scott Wiens>The most important thing you can pull out of here is this whole concept of a secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>He doesn't say privately, he says in secret, which of course kind of means the same thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>But I think it's interesting.

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<v Scott Wiens>He doesn't say privately, he says in secret, which of course kind of means the same thing, but I think it's interesting.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says and your father, who sees in secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>I really stopped and spent time looking at that and trying to understand that a little bit more.

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<v Scott Wiens>And some translations actually say and your father, who is in secret?

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<v Scott Wiens>He is in secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, that changes a little bit when you think about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>What's that mean?

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<v Scott Wiens>I think Jesus is basically saying that God the Father, is there with you in secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's not on that street corner.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's listening to you, not them.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's listening to you.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's where God is.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's where you'll, not them.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's listening to you.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's where God is.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's where you'll find God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Not in anybody else's hearing, but you'll find him in your prayer closet or you'll find him in your chair.

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<v Scott Wiens>I shouldn't brag about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>I got three acres now and I can sit out there with the chickens and I can pray and it's really cool.

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<v Scott Wiens>The chickens don't know I'm praying, by the way, so it's not the same as a Pharisee, by the way, but that's where he is.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's where you are and it's in secret because it's between you and him, and I just think that's so beautiful.

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<v Scott Wiens>Jesus is saying that God is with those who pray privately and is listening to those prayers.

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<v Scott Wiens>And, by the way, let me just make it clear and this is really important, you understand this.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's not saying there's not a place for corporate prayer in the church.

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<v Scott Wiens>We corporately pray all the time.

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<v Scott Wiens>We did this this morning.

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<v Scott Wiens>We do it.

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<v Scott Wiens>For those of you who don't know that, don't volunteer.

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<v Scott Wiens>We spend about 10 minutes praying with everybody before the service at 915.

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<v Scott Wiens>Out here in the lobby, we pray together and different people pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, that's different.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's corporate prayer.

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<v Scott Wiens>You're actually praying with everyone else.

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<v Scott Wiens>So that's not what he's talking about here.

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<v Scott Wiens>There's a time and a place for that.

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<v Scott Wiens>But our primary time of prayer should be with God in private.

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<v Scott Wiens>The principle Jesus is teaching us is that prayer is an intimate communication between us and God.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, nobody in the sanctuary knows how long or how often anybody else prays.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, I have no idea how long Chad prays or when he prays.

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't know and I'm not supposed to know, because that's between him and God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, if you're married, yes, you're going to know roughly what your prayer life is for your, of your spouse, right, but that's different.

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<v Scott Wiens>But it's this, it's this intimacy that you have and this conversation that you should only have with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know my wife and I we have.

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<v Scott Wiens>I can talk to my wife about everything and anything, and there's things I will tell her.

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<v Scott Wiens>I will never have those conversations with anybody else.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean we leave church and we gossip about all you guys.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean nobody else needs to know that.

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<v Scott Wiens>No, we don't.

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<v Scott Wiens>We only gossip about the scribes and Pharisees, but nobody else is going to have a part of those.

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<v Scott Wiens>My fears, my hopes, my dreams, the challenges I have, those are with her and I.

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<v Scott Wiens>You don't have those conversations with everybody else.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's why sometimes in group prayer you will hear somebody say some things You're like that should be for you and God alone.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, let's use a little discretion there, right, but that's what it's supposed to be.

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<v Scott Wiens>And Jesus is saying you cannot have this type of intimate relationship with him.

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<v Scott Wiens>If your heart is searching after the accolades of other people, you just can't.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's why you want to get real, get alone with God, and you will find out really quickly where your relationship is.

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<v Scott Wiens>Will you have anything to say?

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<v Scott Wiens>What were you willing to talk to him about?

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<v Scott Wiens>And isn't it amazing that we have God, the Father, this great being, the Almighty God, that wants to talk to you and wants you to talk to him.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, we don't understand how amazing that is.

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<v Scott Wiens>We just don't understand how amazing it is.

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<v Scott Wiens>So he's realigning the subject of prayer, he's realigning his disciples' definition of it and he's saying don't let me find you on a street corner, unless you're preaching.

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<v Scott Wiens>You can preach on a street corner, but your prayer time is with him and his alone, and that's important.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, second thing about prayer that he corrects is this excessive words, and this is interesting.

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<v Scott Wiens>In verse 7 he says and when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now I just want to confirm something here.

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<v Scott Wiens>Some translations actually say pagans and we throw the term pagan out all the time.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's not all the time, but you know I'm not a pagan, where oftentimes we're referring to somebody who doesn't believe in God.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's not what he's talking about.

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<v Scott Wiens>These Gentiles, these quote pagans.

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<v Scott Wiens>They were very religious people.

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<v Scott Wiens>They had many gods.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, pantheism was very prevalent in the Gentiles right.

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<v Scott Wiens>So you have to understand these were very religious people and he was saying when they pray, this is what they're doing.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's calling out the fact that these people had this mindset that God would eventually have to acquiesce and respond to them if they prayed loudly and long enough.

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<v Scott Wiens>Anybody see a problem with that?

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, it's pretty evident, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>In essence, they thought they could control God.

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<v Scott Wiens>They could control God, they just had to be eloquent and they just had to use lots of phrases and lots of words.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what they thought he says.

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<v Scott Wiens>In its interest.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says for your father.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says don't do this, by the way, for your father knows what you need before you ask him.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if we've got any legalists out here, you can say well, then I don't really have to pray, do I?

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Scott Wiens>You don't have to talk to your wife either?

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<v Scott Wiens>Right?

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't think so.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's not what he's right?

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<v Scott Wiens>You don't have to talk to your wife either?

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<v Scott Wiens>Right?

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't think so.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's not what he's saying.

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<v Scott Wiens>We need to understand that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Why he said not to jump to that radical conclusion and why we shouldn't jump to that, is that God wants us to talk to him.

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<v Scott Wiens>He wants us to have that relationship with him and he wants us to make that request.

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<v Scott Wiens>But we have to make sure that we aren't going after God with the desire to change his heart or change his mind, or we're going to somehow mold his thinking to fall in line with us, because, after all, we know what the right thing is right.

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<v Scott Wiens>You ever prayed for something and later on said God, thank you for not letting me get that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, it's really true.

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<v Scott Wiens>I remember praying.

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<v Scott Wiens>I was in love with somebody when I was 19 and I 18, I thought I prayed God, this is the person, this is for me.

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<v Scott Wiens>Thank you, god.

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<v Scott Wiens>Thank you, god that I did not get what I wanted.

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<v Scott Wiens>The reality is he's teaching the disciples that their prayers should not be focused on trying to remind or control God with his words.

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<v Scott Wiens>Their words aren't.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's not the purpose.

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<v Scott Wiens>He is saying God knows all.

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<v Scott Wiens>God is sovereign.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's reminding the disciples of the sovereignty of God and we have to be reminded of that often as well of the sovereignty of God, and we have to be reminded of that often as well.

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<v Scott Wiens>But you need to understand we don't pray with an attitude of bending God to our will.

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<v Scott Wiens>But, as a child, you're laying your requests before God.

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<v Scott Wiens>You're expressing those requests to Him with the understanding that God will always do what's best for you and to glorify Him.

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<v Scott Wiens>That is the purpose, and his answers to our prayers are always good, although they're not always answered.

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<v Scott Wiens>And again, if you've been walking with the Lord for a while, you'll understand that.

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<v Scott Wiens>You understand that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now he goes into the instructions of how they should pray and he actually gives them words In verse 9 through 13,.

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<v Scott Wiens>We see this teaching that we've called the Lord's Prayer In fact, as I was reading it, a lot of you were probably just reciting it and this is found also in Luke, chapter 11, and they're the most memorized words of Jesus.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, and many times, by the way, we read the Lord's Prayer and we're reading it out of context.

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<v Scott Wiens>You see, he's teaching, right, he's teaching on how to pray and he's teaching how not to pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he says so I'm going to give you some guidance on how you're supposed to pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then he goes into this section.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, he goes into this model.

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<v Scott Wiens>But a lot of times we forget that that's the context of what he's doing here.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, he just called out the abuse of prayer and then he taught that prayer is an outflowing of a relationship with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, and now, here we have these amazing words.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, I don't have time to go through everything in the Lord's Prayer, because it deserves 10 sermons all of its own right.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's not the purpose of this message, but I want to focus on one simple thing, and that is how he instructed the disciples to address God, and this is going to be a key for everything we talk about today.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know Jesus in his ministry and we read in the words.

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<v Scott Wiens>So often he refers to the Father.

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<v Scott Wiens>The Father and I are one.

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<v Scott Wiens>I do nothing except the Father tells me right, he always is referring to the Father, and that's really important.

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<v Scott Wiens>But he's now telling the disciples I want you guys to address God as a Father as well.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, why is he doing that?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, I heard a great sermon one time and the teacher used a metaphor that I'm going to steal from him because it's so good to help you understand, and it's an analogy that will help you be able to apply why we pray to God as a father.

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<v Scott Wiens>In this message, the teacher stated there's two primary ways in which people interact with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>One is as a boarder in his house and one is as a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, now let's kind of explore that.

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<v Scott Wiens>When someone's renting a room, a boarder is somebody who rents a room from somebody in a house, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't know if anybody here has ever had a boarder in their house.

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<v Scott Wiens>I had an Airbnb for a long time, but it was a separate apartment, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So it was still mine, but I didn't interact.

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<v Scott Wiens>Sometimes people would come and go.

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<v Scott Wiens>I would never see them, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>But somebody who's boarding in your house a boarding house they're actually renting a room from you, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So that's the first concept we're going to focus on.

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<v Scott Wiens>So when someone's a boarder, they actually have a business relationship with you, don't they, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, and it's conditional, okay, I'm going to pay you $100 a week to rent that room, and from that I expect, number one, to have access to the bathroom.

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<v Scott Wiens>I want access to the laundry at least one hour every week.

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<v Scott Wiens>I want to be able to make sure the lights should be gone.

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<v Scott Wiens>There should be water available when I need it, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>There's expectations that come from that.

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<v Scott Wiens>A boarder expects the homeowner will do certain things for them.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, keep that in mind.

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<v Scott Wiens>Let's talk about a child In that same house.

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<v Scott Wiens>You have a child and that child lives with the homeowner, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>Which, of course, would be their parents, but the child has an entirely different relationship with their parents than the boarder does.

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<v Scott Wiens>Their relationship with their father is not one of expectation, meaning you do this, I expect you to do this, I expect you to do this.

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<v Scott Wiens>No, that's not what it is.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's one of reliance and trust.

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<v Scott Wiens>Their relationship is not conditional.

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<v Scott Wiens>The relationship with the father, the homeowner, is not a conditional relationship.

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<v Scott Wiens>They love them.

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<v Scott Wiens>The father loves the child.

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<v Scott Wiens>They trust them.

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<v Scott Wiens>They're there in that home because they are part of the family and it's expected that they would be in the home.

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<v Scott Wiens>They don't pay anything, although once you graduate from high school and you're still with your parents, you should pay them something.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's another sermon, right, tyler?

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<v Scott Wiens>He dropped his water.

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<v Scott Wiens>Levi took a deep drink.

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't know what that means.

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<v Scott Wiens>I didn't mean to bring anything up.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm sorry, but you get the idea right A child they live there that's.

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<v Scott Wiens>There's an expectation of love and acceptance.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, if you look at this, it's a familial relationship.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if you look at this and compare the two from a mindset standpoint and you apply it to prayer, you're going to see how this really changes how you pray and how you interact with the Father.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, for instance, if you were a boarder, if you were a boarder, could you go to the homeowner and just start telling them how difficult things are going in your life and how the relationship with your girlfriend has gone bad, or talk about your fears about losing your job because of layoffs and things?

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<v Scott Wiens>Would you go to the homeowner about that if you were a boarder?

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<v Scott Wiens>No, in fact, some boarders excuse me, some people who actually have boarders in their house say that one of the most difficult things they have to do is not get too close to their borders.

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<v Scott Wiens>Anybody want to guess why?

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<v Scott Wiens>Because eventually it's going to happen.

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<v Scott Wiens>They're going to come to you and say I can't pay my rent because my life is this and it's harder to say no and keep it a business relationship.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, they don't want to do that because it's a business relationship.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you're a border, would you approach your homeowner and share your fears, your life dreams?

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<v Scott Wiens>No, it's not.

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<v Scott Wiens>Would you wake up the homeowner at 3 in the morning and ask for a glass of water?

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't think so.

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<v Scott Wiens>You could, but you might not be boarding there for long.

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<v Scott Wiens>No, you couldn't do that Because it would be a violation of a natural understanding of the relationship between the homeowner and the boarder.

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<v Scott Wiens>However, when you think about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>As a child, it's a totally different thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's a totally different thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>Child, it's a totally different thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's a totally different thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>The problem is, whereas a child is receiving from their father love, acceptance, provision, guidance, encouragement, forgiveness, they're receiving all that.

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<v Scott Wiens>You go to the before the Lord and that's what you accept.

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<v Scott Wiens>But if you're a border and you start praying to God like you're a border, that's what you accept, but if you're a border and you start praying to God like you're a border, this is where the problems start to come up.

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<v Scott Wiens>And if you want to do a little test of whether you have the heart of a border or the heart of a child when it comes to prayer, let me just throw a few things out there.

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<v Scott Wiens>Let's look at asking God for things.

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<v Scott Wiens>Do you believe that God is going to be more inclined to answer your prayers?

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<v Scott Wiens>If you've been good, if you've been praying and if you've been fighting temptation and you've been studying God's word, do you have an expectation in your heart that God's going to listen a little bit more clearly to you than the guy over there?

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<v Scott Wiens>That's not See.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you do, you're looking at God like he's the homeowner and you're boarding with him because you basically said I've done this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Them Because you basically said I've done this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Therefore, god, you must do this.

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<v Scott Wiens>You see the problem with that and, guys, this can slip in really, really subtly into our lives, and I've told you many times from stage how I came from a church that was very legalistic, and there's times I feel this come up in me, especially when I'm praying for somebody who's sick.

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<v Scott Wiens>God, this person is a righteous person.

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<v Scott Wiens>They love you, they serve you.

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<v Scott Wiens>Please take this away from them because, after all, they're doing good things for you.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm going to make a deal with you, god here.

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<v Scott Wiens>Come on, look, he's doing good things.

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<v Scott Wiens>Come on, wait a second.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm walking into a business relationship with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>God, because this person's done this, you should do this, and suddenly I'm making a deal with God, and that's not the way it works.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's not the way it works.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's not the way it works.

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<v Scott Wiens>Another way, by the way, is how do we respond to God's answers To our prayers?

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<v Scott Wiens>If you have a border mentality and God does not answer the prayers the way you wanted them to answer?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, sometimes you can get angry.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you find yourself getting angry or depressed because God didn't answer your prayers the way you wanted him to.

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<v Scott Wiens>You might have a border mentality Because after all, god, we had a deal.

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<v Scott Wiens>We had a deal.

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<v Scott Wiens>We had a deal, I was going to do good and you were going to give good things to me.

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<v Scott Wiens>I had this illustrated to me in a very, very sad way and I've used this example before, so if you've heard this before, forgive me, but it was so poignant example before.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if you've heard this before, forgive me, but it was so poignant.

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<v Scott Wiens>I worked with a man in Florida and he was actually my boss, and when I came to know him, I did not know him to be a Christian.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, at that moment, about two or three years before I'd been called back to the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I was going through a real spiritual renewal at the time.

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<v Scott Wiens>But he was a crude man, cussed all the time, inappropriate jokes, all that stuff.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I was talking to him one time and I happened to express my faith and he said you know, I used to be a children's pastor.

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<v Scott Wiens>I said you, I tried not to be too.

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<v Scott Wiens>You.

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<v Scott Wiens>He said yeah.

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<v Scott Wiens>He said my wife and I were having our children then and my wife got pregnant with twins and she had a difficult pregnancy.

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<v Scott Wiens>The twins were born premature and they both died and I thought I can't serve a God that would take away my twins.

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<v Scott Wiens>After all, I'd been doing for him and following him.

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<v Scott Wiens>You see the border mentality there.

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<v Scott Wiens>God, I'd done all these things for you and you wouldn't even heal my children.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, brethren, I want you to understand I'm not casting a stone at this man, I'm not judging this man.

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<v Scott Wiens>I have never gone through this.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've never, and pray, I never will have to.

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<v Scott Wiens>But you and I both know people in this congregation that have lost loved ones, that expressed it and responded as a child of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't know why that happened and, by the way, I pray that there will be a day that he will come back to the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>His story's not done yet.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, it's not done yet, but that mentality will cause you deep, deep anger and I bet if I asked you how many people have heard stories like that, a lot of hands would go up, because, unfortunately, religion will tell you that that's the relationship with God that you're supposed to have you be good, god's going to do good to you.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you're bad, god's going to come after you and that will destroy your relationship with God Because you're going to run into walls.

00:31:49.208 --> 00:31:51.586
<v Scott Wiens>You're going to run into walls.

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<v Scott Wiens>A mature son or daughter trusts that the parent indeed has their best interest at heart and will accept God's answers to their prayers.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, scripture tells us that when we were born again, we all became sons and daughters of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>I know we don't understand that to its fullest.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're adopted, you know Jesus' begotten son.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're the adopted children and we've preached this message or we've used this Scripture before, but in Romans 8, it's nowhere else in the Bible stated so clearly by the Apostle Paul in Romans 8, verse 14 through 16.

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<v Scott Wiens>For all who are led by the Spirit of God, you and I are sons of God or daughters of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, for you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry Abba, father.

00:32:59.210 --> 00:33:01.082
<v Scott Wiens>You've all heard sermons about this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Abba is the most intimate of terms.

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<v Scott Wiens>The Spirit himself bears witness, with our spirit, that we are children of God and if children, then heirs.

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<v Scott Wiens>Heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may be glorified with him, and part of that suffering with Christ, by the way, I believe, is laying down our selfish desires, our selfish desire to kind of tell God.

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<v Scott Wiens>This is what you have to do, and just accepting what he, what he, gives us, and trusting him.

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<v Scott Wiens>King David and it was, it was interesting Evan quoted part of Psalm 103 today.

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<v Scott Wiens>King David said this in Psalm 103, 13,.

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<v Scott Wiens>As a father shows compassion to his children, so the Lord shows compassion to those who fear him.

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<v Scott Wiens>You and I are not borders in the house of God, the kingdom of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're family.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're family.

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<v Scott Wiens>The only person that can interrupt a king at three in the morning to ask for a cup of water is a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>You think God is bothered by you, is irritated by you interpreting, and you know, interrupting him.

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<v Scott Wiens>No, we can go to him for a cup of water or we can go to him with a broken heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>He accepts it all.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you embrace this, this heart of a child, your prayers will change.

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<v Scott Wiens>Your prayers will change.

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<v Scott Wiens>I want to address on the way here I was praying.

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<v Scott Wiens>I have a longer drive, so I get to pray more.

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<v Scott Wiens>On the way here I was praying.

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<v Scott Wiens>I have a longer drive, so I get to pray more on the way here and one of the parts of the Lord's Prayer I didn't have really time to go into.

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<v Scott Wiens>But I want to address something I just felt like the Lord wanted me to say something quick about forgiveness.

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<v Scott Wiens>In verse 12 he says and forgive us our debts as we have forgiven our debtors, right.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then in verse 14 he kind of expounds on that.

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<v Scott Wiens>It says for if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

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<v Scott Wiens>Does that sound like a business relationship to you?

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<v Scott Wiens>It kind of does, doesn't it?

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<v Scott Wiens>Does that sound like a business relationship to you?

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<v Scott Wiens>It kind of does, doesn't it?

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<v Scott Wiens>And I've always not liked the way that was phrased Because, coming from a legalistic standpoint, that was just like sugar to a baby.

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<v Scott Wiens>I wanted that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, see here, if I don't forgive, god's not going to forgive me.

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<v Scott Wiens>Hmm, I think we have the cart before the horse.

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<v Scott Wiens>This is a misinterpretation when people say that they are misinterpreting what God's saying here.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'll tell you what God's saying here.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you truly are forgiven and you have repented of your sins and given your life to Christ, you will be someone who forgives, you will be.

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<v Scott Wiens>Someone forgives.

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<v Scott Wiens>And God's simply saying that's the deal.

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<v Scott Wiens>There ain't no deal from you do this, I'll do this.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's simply saying if you're not forgiving, then you're not one of mine.

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<v Scott Wiens>And as I was praying for that and that hit me, I just thought well, maybe someone needs to hear that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Do you have unforgiveness somewhere?

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<v Scott Wiens>You have unforgiveness in somewhere in your heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>Maybe you don't say I'm never going to forgive that person, but anytime that person's face comes to your head, you get angry and you get bitter.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's unforgiveness.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I'll tell you when you run into that and you think about that person.

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<v Scott Wiens>Here's what you need to do.

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<v Scott Wiens>You need to play back all the sins that you've committed in your life and all the terrible things you've thought and all the terrible things you've done, and realize that God sent his son to hang on a cross for you to be forgiven of that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Who are you not to forgive others?

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<v Scott Wiens>Who are you not to forgive others?

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<v Scott Wiens>So if that's for you, then that's for all of us.

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<v Scott Wiens>But just think about that man.

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<v Scott Wiens>What a forgiving Savior we have.

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<v Scott Wiens>Who are we not to forgive?

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, let's talk about fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>Anybody hungry?

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm not going to spend a lot of time on fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>I have a minute and a half left.

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<v Scott Wiens>Everybody's like good, he's not going to talk about fasting, but I am going to tell you about Kelly's sermon, so you have to watch it again Matthew 6, 16 through 18.

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<v Scott Wiens>But he's like good.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's not going to talk about fasting, but I am going to tell you about Kelly's sermon, so you have to watch it again, buddy, matthew 6, 16 through 18.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says, when you fast again, when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they just figure their faces that they may be fasting, may be seen by others.

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<v Scott Wiens>Truly, I say to you, they've received their reward.

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<v Scott Wiens>Again, he's resetting their perspective on what holiness is right and what righteousness is right.

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<v Scott Wiens>So he says this if you fast.

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<v Scott Wiens>Of course we know that he's saying, obviously, that fasting truly is an expression of our relationship with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>So he's grouping us in with prayer and it's important that we understand fasting is not to lose weight.

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<v Scott Wiens>Fasting is truly to draw close.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's an expression of your relationship with God.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he's talking again about the hypocrites and how they respond.

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<v Scott Wiens>They want to make sure everybody's fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>By the way, if you're fasting, don't tell anybody you're fasting, just fast Now.

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<v Scott Wiens>Maybe it's you know, someone wants you to come over for a meal or whatever.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean you can come up with an excuse or whatever, but you don't normally tell people that you're fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>Right, they wanted everybody to know that they were fasting.

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<v Scott Wiens>But then he says how should you fast?

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<v Scott Wiens>And in the same verse, the same section, he says in verse 17,.

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<v Scott Wiens>But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face that your fasting may not be seen by others, but by your father here's that phrase who is in secret, he's there, he's waiting for you, and your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you.

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<v Scott Wiens>Basically, anointing and washing your face means you just act like everything's normal.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what you're supposed to do.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just keep going about your business.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just don't go buy a salseritas.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just keep going about your business.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just don't go buy a salseritas right Now.

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't have time, of course, to go into all this thing about fasting, and I wanted to reference Kelly's message from back in March.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was great, one of the best messages I've heard on fasting, and I think, yeah, we got full but not satisfied how fasting brings a kingdom.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's a great sermon and he covered all that.

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<v Scott Wiens>I simply want to point out that Jesus was instructing the disciples that fasting was not about performance.

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<v Scott Wiens>Not about performance.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's about being a child of God and relying on God and seeking God.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what fasting is about.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, so there's a theme running through this whole thing and it's this theme of a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now I want to finish up with something I don't normally finish up a sermon with, and that's a story, but I thought this story was very pertinent.

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<v Scott Wiens>So we've spent time.

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<v Scott Wiens>We understand that we should be children of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>We should have the heart of God when it comes heart of a child when it comes to our approach to God, and it's going to manifest inside of us.

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<v Scott Wiens>We have this heart of a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's going to manifest inside of us to how we pray and how we fast and how we respond to God when he responds to us.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, so that's what we've talked about today, but I came across this story that I think is a beautiful example of reliance and trust in God and having a child's heart, so I'm just going to read it.

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<v Scott Wiens>A man's daughter had asked the local pastor to come and pray with her father.

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<v Scott Wiens>When the pastor arrived, he found the man lying in bed with his head propped up in two pillows and an empty chair beside his bed.

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<v Scott Wiens>The pastor assumed the old fellow had been informed that he was going to visit.

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<v Scott Wiens>I guess you were expecting me.

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<v Scott Wiens>The pastor said no.

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<v Scott Wiens>The man said who are you?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, he said I'm the new associate pastor at your local church.

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<v Scott Wiens>When I saw the empty chair, I figured you knew I was going to show up.

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<v Scott Wiens>Oh yeah, the chair, said the bedridden man, would you mind closing the door?

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<v Scott Wiens>Puzzled.

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<v Scott Wiens>The pastor, shut the door.

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<v Scott Wiens>I never told anyone this, not even my daughter.

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<v Scott Wiens>The man continued but all my life I've never known how to pray At church.

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<v Scott Wiens>I used to hear the pastor talk about prayer, but it always went right over my head and I've always struggled with praying Until one day, about four years ago, my best friend said to me Joe, prayer is just a simple matter of having a conversation with Jesus.

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<v Scott Wiens>Here's what I suggest Sit down on a chair, place an empty chair in front of you and, in faith, see Jesus on that chair.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's not spooky, because he promised I'll be with you always.

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<v Scott Wiens>Then just speak to him and listen in the same way that you're doing with me right now.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I tried and I liked it so much that I could do it a couple hours every day.

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<v Scott Wiens>He said I'm careful, though, if my daughter saw me talking to an empty chair, she'd either have a nervous breakdown or send me to the funny farm.

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<v Scott Wiens>The pastor was deeply moved by the story and he encouraged the old man to continue on that journey and he prayed for them and he returned to church.

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<v Scott Wiens>Two nights later the daughter called to tell the pastor that her daddy had died that afternoon.

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<v Scott Wiens>Did he seem to die in peace?

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<v Scott Wiens>The pastor asked yes.

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<v Scott Wiens>When I left the house around two o'clock, he called me over to his bedside, told me one of his corny dad jokes and kissed me on the cheek.

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<v Scott Wiens>When I got back from the store an hour later, I found him dead.

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<v Scott Wiens>But there was something kind of strange.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, it was beyond strange.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was kind of weird.

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<v Scott Wiens>Apparently, just before, just before daddy died, he leaned over and rested his head on the chair beside the bed on the chair beside the bed.

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<v Scott Wiens>Do you know?

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what God wants you to do.

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<v Scott Wiens>He wants you to rest your head on his lap.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's the relationship he wants with you and he wants with me.

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<v Scott Wiens>Why?

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<v Scott Wiens>Because he loves us and he's called us.

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<v Scott Wiens>There are some people that may have never experienced that relationship with God before.

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<v Scott Wiens>And if you're one of them, that's what awaits you.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what awaits you A loving father who wants to embrace you, not in some border concept, but as a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's literally calling you out and he wants you to follow him.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's what you have.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what you have in front of you.

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<v Scott Wiens>It requires you to turn your back on your old life.

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<v Scott Wiens>It requires you to repent of your sins and realize that without him I'm lost.

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<v Scott Wiens>But man, to have that type of relationship with a God that you get to spend eternity with, there's nothing that's worth holding on to.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if you're one of those people, we'd love to pray with you after the service, right down front, here you can join us.

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<v Scott Wiens>Will you all stand and let's pray Amen, oh Heavenly Father.

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<v Scott Wiens>How often we approach your throne with that phrase, heavenly Father, and how appropriate it is, father, to think that the God who created man and created this universe and all its complexity, the God that created all that wants to hold us in his bosom, is unfathomable.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, I pray that everyone in this room that you would give us the heart of a child.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, when we pray and when we fast and when we come before you, that we know that you're not just accepting us and allowing us to bow at your throne like some great king that you are, but you want to embrace us as well.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, give us the heart of a child, that we can embrace you as the Father who offers us everything.

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<v Scott Wiens>We pray this, and I pray for the hearts of those that are struggling with this, god.

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<v Scott Wiens>I pray that you would show them your mercy and your love in a deep and binding way and help us to never forget that love and just what you've given us, which we can never put a value on.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's just immeasurable.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I pray for them, pray for all of us, father, that we may have the heart of a child, and we ask this in Jesus' most holy name, amen.
