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<v Scott Wiens>For those of you that were here last week, there's a hazard preacher.

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<v Scott Wiens>Uh Neil got stuck in a stall in the bathroom.

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<v Scott Wiens>I think we had to get the jaws of life or something to get him in.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I didn't go to the bathroom before this, so uh I it might be a shorter message than normal.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's great.

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<v Scott Wiens>Oh, that's so great.

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<v Scott Wiens>Brother, you know who you are.

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, there's no one behind you.

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<v Scott Wiens>By the way, I want you to pay attention to me for the next little bit, but Paul Queen is in the house.

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<v Scott Wiens>See, now you're gonna get mobbed.

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<v Scott Wiens>I love it.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, anyways, but I I didn't want almost didn't want to tell you that because I'm like, no, no one's gonna pay attention to me.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, all right.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, we are in the beginning parts of a sermon series that we've called Faith, Hope, and Love.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I really appreciated the introduction Tyler gave to it last week.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, we don't just throw a dart at the Bible and say, let's preach on this.

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<v Scott Wiens>We don't do that.

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<v Scott Wiens>We actually prayerfully go before the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>And we usually do this during our retreat, our pastor's retreat in October.

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<v Scott Wiens>And last in last October, when we really, it was really good.

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<v Scott Wiens>We spent a lot of time praying, and we got this phrase that strengthened Christians are best equipped for crisis.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's really been driving everything we preached about.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, a lot of you remember, should remember, hopefully remember, the series we just went through, the book of Ephesians, in Christ.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that was really powerful.

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<v Scott Wiens>Foundational stuff.

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<v Scott Wiens>Foundational stuff.

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<v Scott Wiens>And so we really believe that faith, hope, and love, these are the pillars of our faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>These are pillars of every Christian.

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<v Scott Wiens>And so we're going through a series on that.

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<v Scott Wiens>And Neil did a great job of kicking that off last week after he got out of the bathroom stall.

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<v Scott Wiens>Uh just a wonderful job.

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<v Scott Wiens>And and and I love the three points.

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<v Scott Wiens>He said, faith is being fully persuaded, faith trusts, and faith works.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, if you missed last week, I got to tell you something.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's a little secret.

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<v Scott Wiens>You can go online and listen to the sermons after.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, they're on Facebook, they're on YouTube, they're all over the place, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So they're on our website, you can get a link there.

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<v Scott Wiens>So please look at go and listen to those messages because they really build on each other.

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<v Scott Wiens>And in fact, what he taught about last week will really come into play when we talk about today's message.

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<v Scott Wiens>So we are focusing on the faith part, and our key text is Hebrews 11.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, in chapter 11, the writer of Hebrews begins by giving the reader a definition of faith, and Neil really set that up beautifully, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>And it was really good.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he he referred to it the term the hall of faith, the hall of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's all these people that the writer of Hebrews now talks about as examples of what faith is.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's exciting, by the way.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I get to speak about the first guy, and this happens to be Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's one of the sons of Adam and Eve.

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<v Scott Wiens>And so we're going to talk about Abel's faith today.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, the writer focused on faith, Abel's faith in relation to the offering that he brought to God.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he contrasts that with his brother Cain's offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>Of course, a lot of you are already familiar with that.

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<v Scott Wiens>You understand that.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I want to read the first four verses of Hebrews.

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<v Scott Wiens>Again, we're going to focus on verse four, but I want to read the whole part just to get in context.

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<v Scott Wiens>It won't take long.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, Hebrews 11, verse 1.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen, for by it the people of old received their commendation.

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<v Scott Wiens>By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Why, we need to tell a lot of people that one, don't we?

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<v Scott Wiens>By the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then verse 4, our key text.

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<v Scott Wiens>By faith, Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous.

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<v Scott Wiens>God commending him by accepting his gifts, and through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, today what we're going to do is we're going to look closely at the faith of Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>And what we're going to do to do that, we have to go back and actually look at what this the writer of Hebrews is referencing, which is Genesis chapter 4.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by looking at this, we're going to first see clearly why Abel's offering was considered an act of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And secondly, we're going to see how, as believers today, we can also demonstrate the same faith as Abel did as it pertains to our offering of our lives, the offering of our treasures, and the offering of the gifts God gives us.

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<v Scott Wiens>You with me?

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<v Scott Wiens>Let's pray.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, we thank you so much for your word.

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<v Scott Wiens>We thank you for this hall of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, too many people are venerated in our society as being great and they're not.

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<v Scott Wiens>But we have preserved for us in this chapter the beautiful examples of people who acted in faith so that we can read and learn from them and in turn play that out in our lives in our faith with your strength.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, Father, I pray that we all become convicted by this truth and we give you the gracious glory for the fact that it's preserved for us.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I pray this in Jesus' name.

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<v Scott Wiens>Everybody said, Amen.

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<v Scott Wiens>Amen.

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<v Scott Wiens>All right.

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<v Scott Wiens>So if you've got your Bibles, you don't need it because it's going to be on the screen.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just kidding.

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<v Scott Wiens>Bring your Bibles out.

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<v Scott Wiens>Open them up.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're going to go straight and talk about the story of Cain and Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>And we want to get a clear understanding of why the writer of Hebrews said this was an example of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, by the way, you have to understand that the writer of Hebrews, we always say the writer of Hebrews because we really don't know who that is, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>Everybody's got their theory, but we don't know.

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<v Scott Wiens>But he had something that you have.

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<v Scott Wiens>He had the Torah.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's what we have.

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<v Scott Wiens>So what we're going, we're literally reading what he read, okay?

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<v Scott Wiens>But because what he said here was inspired by God, we know that it was an act of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>So we're going to go and look what he read and why he said what he did.

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<v Scott Wiens>So in Genesis 4, verses 1 through 5, we're going to read this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now Adam knew Eve, his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>By the way, there's some commentators believe that she actually thought that this baby, this first child she had, was going to be the Messiah.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's one of the reasons she said this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Obviously, that didn't work out.

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<v Scott Wiens>So verse 2.

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<v Scott Wiens>And again she bore his brother Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground.

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<v Scott Wiens>Verse 3 In the course of time, Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground, and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard.

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<v Scott Wiens>So Cain was very angry and fell on his face.

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<v Scott Wiens>So let's set a little bit of background here.

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<v Scott Wiens>The first thing you need to remember, and we all need to remember, is that this is actually the first time in God's word we see any reference to man worshiping God through sacrifice.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's the very first time we have that.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, in chapter three, chapter three ends with that terrible day, Adam and Eve's fall, when they're banished from the garden, and that flaming sword is put on the east entrance.

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<v Scott Wiens>Have you ever thought, by the way, why did it say the east entrance?

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<v Scott Wiens>That kind of indicates there might be a north, south, and west.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've always wondered that, but the Bible doesn't tell me.

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<v Scott Wiens>But I that's one of my questions I want to ask God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Could they have not snuck in the south entrance?

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<v Scott Wiens>No, I think there was a sword there too.

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<v Scott Wiens>But listen, one of the things we can pull from this is that apparently between the time that they were driven out and the time of this story, God had somehow communicated to mankind how they were supposed to worship him.

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<v unknown>Yeah.

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<v Scott Wiens>Because they brought an offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>I don't think they just sat around one day and said, you know, we should do try to placate God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Let's let's kill something.

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<v Scott Wiens>I just don't think that's what happened.

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<v Scott Wiens>I think there were instructions because they both did it.

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<v Scott Wiens>I think Adam and Eve did this.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I think Cain and Abel grew up watching Adam and Eve give a sacrifice to the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it's obvious then that they would have been taught to do this.

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<v Scott Wiens>Um, and we also know that the instructions about the offering must have been commanded to bring them the fruit of their labor because that's what they had, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>There was, there was, I don't think there was any money around at this time.

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<v Scott Wiens>Obviously, it was what they what they what they grew from the land.

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<v Scott Wiens>And remember, God's instruction to Adam was go and you know, you're supposed to, you have dominion over the land, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>To be fruitful and multiply, not just in children, but of course in the land itself.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it says that Cain was a worker of the ground.

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<v Scott Wiens>He was a farmer, basically.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, a lot of you probably know I grew up in Saskatchewan, Canada, in some of the richest farmland in the world.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I grew up with crops being raised all around me.

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<v Scott Wiens>Our house literally was just surrounded by fields of grain, canola, all you name it, flax.

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<v Scott Wiens>We had all kinds of grain crops that were being grown.

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<v Scott Wiens>My sister, by the way, married a farmer, and they're very successful.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, we went there uh uh back in May, we went and got to see them again, and it was just a lot of memories when you go back to your old place, right, and see all the all the things that were familiar growing up.

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<v Scott Wiens>By the way, you do know the definition of a farmer, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>Farmer is a man outstanding in his field.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's the only dad joke.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's the only one I'm doing, Tyler.

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<v Scott Wiens>Don't don't hit me for that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just one.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's all I got.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm allowed one.

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<v Scott Wiens>Yeah.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, who was Abel?

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<v Scott Wiens>What did he do?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, Abel was obviously a shepherd, and that's why he brought the first fruits from his.

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<v Scott Wiens>So, so what does the text kind of tell us about these offerings?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, within the kind of Christian theological circles, there's really three positions that people take with regards to this whole reason why Cain's offering was not accepted and Abel's was.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the first one is actually pretty popular, and that is it's the blood sacrifice position.

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<v Scott Wiens>And basically, this position states that Cain's offering was the wrong type of offering, and that's why it was rejected.

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<v Scott Wiens>So the position suggests that God had already established with Adam and Eve, although we don't see evidence of this in the script, but that an offering must be a blood offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, I understand that.

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<v Scott Wiens>We are saved by the blood of the Lamb, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So we understand, and it even says, without blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it's understandable why we would go to that position, but I just want to kind of throw a couple of questions at you about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, when we read the Mosaic Covenant, it talks about um, you know, what what that blood sacrifice should look like for the sacrifice of sins.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, some people even say that when God killed the animal to make skins for Adam and Eve, that that was his first sacrifice.

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<v Scott Wiens>But of course, why would God sacrifice to him?

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<v Scott Wiens>It it's you know, it's just, I'm just saying it's a little bit of a stretch, but that's okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, it's important to understand there's many words for the word offering in God's word.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, we say Eskimos have like 50 different names and words for the for snow.

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<v Scott Wiens>We just call it snow down here, but even where I'm from, it's sleet, it's all you know, all kinds of slush.

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<v Scott Wiens>We have all kinds of names for it.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, it's the same thing with offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>There were multiple names for Hebrew names for offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the word that was used for offering, for Cain's offering, was actually a different Hebrew word than the one that was used for Abel's.

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<v Scott Wiens>And it's interesting because Cain's was a grain offering, and it was it's a Hebrew word called mincha.

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<v Scott Wiens>And basically it means a gift or tribute, often used for grain, cereal, or food offering that does not involve blood.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was very specific.

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<v Scott Wiens>And for Abel's, of course, it was a different Hebrew word, and that word basically meant a blood offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay, so we can see that both offerings were identified as the type of offering that they were brought.

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<v Scott Wiens>But I need to ask this question: if God was requiring a blood offering, then why was Cain surprised when his was rejected?

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<v Scott Wiens>Just think about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>He brought his offering, expecting it to be received, as did Cain, but his, or it as did Abel, but his was rejected.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's the problem I have with this theory that it was just the wrong type of offering, because it makes the assumption that it was supposed to be a sin offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, if you take that position, it's okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>I just want to show a different, I kind of a different view of this.

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<v Scott Wiens>The second position taken about why Cain's offering was rejected is the quality of the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And this I think has some actual merit.

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<v Scott Wiens>Have you ever read through scripture and suddenly you have the same scripture you've read dozens of times, you stop and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I never saw that before.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, that's what happened to me when I was studying this.

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<v Scott Wiens>I was actually reading it and then I read a commentary and I went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I never saw that before, and it made a lot of sense to me.

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<v Scott Wiens>If if you look carefully at what um, if you look carefully at that word that's used there, uh let's see, it's right here, in the course of time.

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<v Scott Wiens>In the course of time, that is really significant.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I read over that many times.

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<v Scott Wiens>In the course of time, like, oh, eventually, you know, he brought an offering, but that's not that's not what happened.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you think about it, Abel brought the firstborn of his flock in the fat portions, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what he brought.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>And you'll notice it was firstborn, which by the way, that's the most precious part of you know, you're you were instructed to bring the firstborn.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the fat portions, again, if you look at the Mosaic law, you'll realize that that was part that he should bring too.

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<v Scott Wiens>So that lines up with what we know the Mosaic Law had.

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<v Scott Wiens>But Cain's was a little bit different.

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<v Scott Wiens>It says, in the course of time, Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground.

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<v Scott Wiens>What does that mean in the course of time?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, the Hebrew word used for this phrase means at the end of days.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, look at that a little bit differently now, don't you?

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<v Scott Wiens>Wait a second.

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<v Scott Wiens>At the end of days?

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<v Scott Wiens>At the end of what days?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, the New Living Translation actually translates this way when it was the time for harvest.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, I grew up.

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<v Scott Wiens>When harvest started and harvest ended, was not on the same day.

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<v Scott Wiens>If it did, those are really bad years.

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<v Scott Wiens>Really bad years, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So there was a course of time that the harvest went on.

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<v Scott Wiens>Thinking logically, Cain could not bring any offering of his crops until the harvest started, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>But it says in the course of time, it would take time to fully gather this all in.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it seems like from the description of Cain's offering, that the text seems to indicate, because you notice it doesn't say Cain brought his first fruits.

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<v Scott Wiens>It just says he brought from his harvest, he brought an offering of grain.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it seems that you can make a really strong case for the fact that Cain did bring an offering, but it wasn't from the first part of his harvest, it was from the end.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he used the stuff, the harvest from the beginning.

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<v Scott Wiens>And when you begin to think about that, you begin realizing, okay, maybe we start to get a clearer picture of why his offering was rejected.

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<v Scott Wiens>Because number one, he didn't, if he truly didn't, and again, it doesn't say the first fruits of his harvest, so it seems to indicate he didn't bring that along.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, this story takes place long before the sacrificial laws were given to Israel as part of the Mosaic covenant.

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<v Scott Wiens>However, just thinking about this, it would only stand to reason that some of the core requirements that God gives and gave in the Mosaic covenant would apply to here.

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<v Scott Wiens>Why would God change between what he told them and what, you know, what he told Adam and Eve versus what he told the Israelites?

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<v Scott Wiens>And in Leviticus 2, Moses tells the people that God's expectations for a grain offering were very, very specific.

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<v Scott Wiens>I know we've, if you've read the Bible through, we all love going through Leviticus, don't we?

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<v Scott Wiens>But it says in Leviticus 2, he goes into great detail about the grain.

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<v Scott Wiens>He talks about fine flour and oil and frankincense.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then look what he says in verse 12 of Leviticus 2.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says, as an offering of firstfruits, you shall bring them to the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>The context is in the grain.

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<v Scott Wiens>So it's pretty evident that in the Mosaic law, when you brought a grain offering, it had to be the first fruit, the first part of it.

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<v Scott Wiens>It was symbolic.

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<v Scott Wiens>And again, I think because of that, it was pretty evident that we have Cain bringing an offering that wasn't of the first fruits.

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<v Scott Wiens>And so over that course of time, he did this at the end, and that shows a heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I think this position has more scriptural backing.

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<v Scott Wiens>However, it really only deals with the result of, I think, an even bigger problem with Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that leads to the third position.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that third position is called the heart and faith position.

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<v Scott Wiens>This position states that the primary reason Cain's offering was rejected was because he offered it with an evil heart and no faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I'm telling you, there's a lot of evidence for this.

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<v Scott Wiens>I believe the core text in Hebrews really talks about that.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you look again at Hebrews 4 or 11, verse 4, he says, By faith, Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>By faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>Through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts.

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<v Scott Wiens>God commended him by accepting the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.

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<v Scott Wiens>I think the writer of Hebrews making it very clear that Abel's faith was what made his offering more acceptable.

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<v Scott Wiens>Not only was it the right offering, according to the laws that God had given them about offerings, but it was in faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>That whole verse is sandwiched with faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean it starts with, by faith, Abel offered to God.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then at the bottom, at the end of that verse, it says, Through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's faith is just saturated in this in this verse.

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<v Scott Wiens>Because of course the whole chapter is saturated with faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>But that's what he's saying, what was important about the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>So I believe the account in Genesis also ports this based upon what it says at the end of verse 4 and going into verse 5 of Genesis 4.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now listen to this really carefully, because I read over this a couple of times too fast.

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<v Scott Wiens>Genesis, the end of Genesis 4, verse 4 is this, and the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard.

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<v Scott Wiens>Think about what he said.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he had no regard for Cain and his offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>Do you and I not know that God can see our hearts?

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<v Scott Wiens>God can see their hearts.

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<v Scott Wiens>God can see their hearts.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's important.

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<v Scott Wiens>The emphasis of the writer of Hebrews is not necessarily fixated so much on the offering itself, but on the faith of the one giving the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I think about the widow with two mites.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's all she had.

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<v Scott Wiens>And she gave it in faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's why Jesus pulled it out.

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<v Scott Wiens>She was not going to get anything for that.

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<v Scott Wiens>She wasn't getting any recognized recognition from anybody there watching the money going in.

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<v Scott Wiens>She gave it in faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>Her last, probably her last two mites of any.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, that's all she had.

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<v Scott Wiens>I believe this verse is making it really clear that Abel's offering was accepted by God, not because it was the right sacrifice, although it was, because he gave it in faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, put this in kind of a metaphorical sense, you know, the whole cart before the horse.

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<v Scott Wiens>We hear that metaphor all the time.

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<v Scott Wiens>Don't put the cart before the horse.

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, I think this is kind of the same thing.

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<v Scott Wiens>Abel, Abel's offering didn't make him righteous, he was already righteous in the sight of God.

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<v Scott Wiens>And therefore his offering was given in that heart with that faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>John Calvin, in his commentary on Hebrew, says Abel's offering was merely the outcome.

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<v Scott Wiens>Evidence of internal faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And to further prove this through scriptures that speak about Cain, I'm going to roll out a couple of scriptures in the New Testament that are, let's just say, are not very favorable to our friend Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>The Apostle John.

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<v Scott Wiens>So in 1 John, we know the Apostle John was the apostle of love, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>Everybody talks about that, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>So in 1 John 3, verse 12, he's talking in 1 John 3 about loving the love for one another that we should have.

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<v Scott Wiens>And look what he says.

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<v Scott Wiens>See the significance of this statement, and then what we read is that Cain was already in a degenerative state way before the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>Way before the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>He had somehow allowed himself to go down that path where the enemy had been working on him and working on him.

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<v Scott Wiens>And you know, we know that we see what happened in the Garden of Eden.

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<v Scott Wiens>We know that Satan and his demons weren't going to let you go.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he had that fallen nature now to deal with.

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<v Scott Wiens>And all of that pounded onto him.

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<v Scott Wiens>And he was in the wrong mindset when he first even brought the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, when he selected the offering, he he got the wrong one.

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<v Scott Wiens>He brought the wrong, he brought the stuff at the end.

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<v Scott Wiens>He brought the wrong offering and he brought it with the wrong heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>And it's so clear.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's so clear.

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<v Scott Wiens>How about Jude?

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<v Scott Wiens>Hey, Jude.

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<v Scott Wiens>Okay.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you look at Jude, by the way, Jude doesn't pull any punches, you guys.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you've read the epistle of Jude, it's really brutal.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the short book of Jude really blasts false teachers.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, really comes after false teachers.

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<v Scott Wiens>He calls out fallen angels, Sodom and Gomorrah, unholy people.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then right in the middle of this, he literally uses Cain to describe a corrupt mindset.

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<v Scott Wiens>This is what he says in verse 10.

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<v Scott Wiens>But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's literally calling them animals.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, he's just calling it what it is.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then he says in verse 11, Woe to them, for they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error and perished in Korah's rebellion.

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<v Scott Wiens>Talk about rolling out of a trio of non-heroes.

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<v Scott Wiens>I mean, Cain's right there.

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<v Scott Wiens>But what's significant about what he says there is the way of Cain was his heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says nothing about the offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>He doesn't say, don't be like Cain or brought the wrong stuff.

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<v Scott Wiens>He literally says, He's of the evil one.

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<v Scott Wiens>His mind is corrupt.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's something for us to understand.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you want further proof of this corrupt heart, just look at how Cain responded to God after his rejection of his offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>In verse 5, it says, But for Cain and his offering, he had no regard.

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<v Scott Wiens>So Cain was very angry and his face fell.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, one of the things I can tell you, having kicked around the kingdom for a long time, when someone receives correction, you watch how they respond.

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, correction's never fun to receive.

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<v Scott Wiens>I get it.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've received it.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you've never, you're weird.

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<v Scott Wiens>But everybody receives correction, right?

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<v Scott Wiens>But I'm telling you, it's hard to receive.

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<v Scott Wiens>But if you humbly receive it, God can work with that.

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<v Scott Wiens>He can work with a repentant heart.

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<v Scott Wiens>But that's not what we saw from Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>He didn't, he didn't, he wasn't humble.

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<v Scott Wiens>He didn't, he didn't respond in a humble way and like, I'm sorry, Lord, I got that wrong.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'll be honest, my heart's not in the right place.

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<v Scott Wiens>Forgive me.

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<v Scott Wiens>He didn't respond that way.

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<v Scott Wiens>In fact, if you continue to go down the path, what did he do after that?

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<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, God goes on and says literally, sin is crouching at the door.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you do right, you'll be accepted.

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<v Scott Wiens>Watch out, Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>Sin is crouching at the door.

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<v Scott Wiens>The God of the universe is talking to you one-on-one and he's giving you a warning, and you run right through that red light, and you get matter and matter, and you kill your brother.

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<v Scott Wiens>Are you telling me that happened?

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<v Scott Wiens>That he was fine before he brought that offering?

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<v Scott Wiens>No.

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<v Scott Wiens>His heart was wrong a long time before.

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<v Scott Wiens>And of course, if you contrast Abel's offering, it's night and day.

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<v Scott Wiens>Abel brought the correct offering as an act of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's his faith that motivated him to please the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that's the faith that the writer of Hebrews is talking about.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, how about us?

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<v Scott Wiens>How about us today?

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<v Scott Wiens>You might say, Scott, that's pretty cool.

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<v Scott Wiens>Thanks for that little bit of insight.

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<v Scott Wiens>But how does that apply to me?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, I'd like to posit that the story of Abel's faith is an example of how we should live our entire life as an offering to God.

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<v Scott Wiens>From Abel's example of the offering of faith, I really see three ways that we can offer our lives as an offering of faith like Abel did.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the first one is offering our lives in faith completely.

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<v Scott Wiens>Completely.

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<v Scott Wiens>And this first point is an umbrella over the other two, but it's I wanted to point this one out because it's so important.

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<v Scott Wiens>Romans 12, Paul says something that really is hard to accomplish.

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<v Scott Wiens>He says to the Romans, I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

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<v Scott Wiens>Now, there's a lot of beautiful terms in this scripture that ties in with Abel and his offering.

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<v Scott Wiens>He said, present, present.

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<v Scott Wiens>Brethren, you have to willingly go before the Lord and present your life to him and say, It's yours, God, use it as you will.

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<v Scott Wiens>We acknowledge that God's our Father and He's worthy of our praise and worship, and most importantly, he's worthy of our whole lives.

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<v Scott Wiens>The word sacrifice is in there.

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<v Scott Wiens>True believers are willing to sacrifice our will to God.

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<v Scott Wiens>Holy and acceptable.

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<v Scott Wiens>I just love that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Holy and acceptable.

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<v Scott Wiens>Just as God received Abel's offering because it was the right offering and because it was given with a right heart, God will accept our lives as an offering if we turn our lives over to Him totally and become bondservants.

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<v Scott Wiens>We taught about this concept of bondservants in the Ephesian study.

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<v Scott Wiens>Paul calls himself a bondservant to Christ all the time.

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<v Scott Wiens>And what is a bondservant?

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<v Scott Wiens>A bondservant is someone who literally gives themselves over to their master and says, I live now to serve you.

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<v Scott Wiens>Dying to self.

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<v Scott Wiens>It's a radical concept, isn't it?

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<v Scott Wiens>If you're not a believer, this is radical.

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<v Scott Wiens>You're looked upon kind of as a man, you're crazy.

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<v Scott Wiens>But that's what we're called to do.

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<v Scott Wiens>We're called to be bondservants.

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<v Scott Wiens>Unfortunately, a lot of Christians refuse to believe fully and present themselves in an incomplete way to God.

00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Scott Wiens>Some claim to be Christians because they show up at church twice a year, believe that they're doing enough.

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<v Scott Wiens>Doing enough to make it.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've heard people talk like that before.

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<v Scott Wiens>Some people talk to God only when they're in a desperate place, desperate position.

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Scott Wiens>They cry out, they want rescue.

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<v Scott Wiens>And some are Sunday morning saints and six-day heathens.

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<v Scott Wiens>I made that one up myself.

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<v Scott Wiens>I'm really it's really sad though.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've seen people like this.

00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Scott Wiens>They keep one foot in the word, one foot of the faith, and the other one totally in the world.

00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Scott Wiens>And they literally live, they're they're Jekyll and Hyde.

00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Scott Wiens>Truly offering your life to God in faith means you have to die to yourself.

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Scott Wiens>And we've got a great example of this.

00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Scott Wiens>And Tyler mentioned this, and we've had a front row seat of this with Derek and Megan.

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Scott Wiens>Don't kid yourself.

00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Scott Wiens>Derek wasn't all fired up when God started putting this in his path.

00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Scott Wiens>He's like, wait, this is where I am.

00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Scott Wiens>This is where God's, this is where God's trained me, discipled me.

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Scott Wiens>This is where I've loved on people, and this is my family.

00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Scott Wiens>You're telling me to do what?

00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Scott Wiens>When you obey God in faith, it's often going to require something of you.

00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Scott Wiens>And it's going to require a sacrifice.

00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Scott Wiens>And if you've never sacrificed for your faith, then maybe you haven't been listening to God because almost always He requires a sacrifice.

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Scott Wiens>And sometimes it's with selfish things, right?

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Scott Wiens>I don't want to stop doing black, black, black, you know, I don't want to stop that.

00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Scott Wiens>I love telling jokes.

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Scott Wiens>When I was, when I walked away from God, I was doing, I was, man, I was the life of the party.

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Scott Wiens>I'd go out on business trips.

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Scott Wiens>I could have a table howling because I had funny jokes, and half of them were off-color.

00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Scott Wiens>But I was good at telling them.

00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Scott Wiens>And when God convicted me, I quit doing that.

00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Scott Wiens>I quit being the life of the party, you guys.

00:31:58.319 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Scott Wiens>But that was okay.

00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Scott Wiens>But it was hard at first.

00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Scott Wiens>I missed that.

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Scott Wiens>It was all selfish, but I didn't want to do it anymore because that was not who I was anymore in Christ.

00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Scott Wiens>That's just you all have sacrificial examples you can give.

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Scott Wiens>Giving yourself sacrificially can be hard.

00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Scott Wiens>But just like Derek and Megan are taking the step of faith, they're trusting that they're hearing from God.

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Scott Wiens>They've confirmed that, and they're walking in it, no matter how difficult it might be.

00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Scott Wiens>And that's that's an example of truly walking in faith.

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Scott Wiens>And we really admire Derek and Megan for that.

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Scott Wiens>You know, the definition of what an all-in believer is often defined as again is a bondservant, and we see that all the time.

00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Scott Wiens>And I really believe, I'm convicted that every morning I need to tell God that I'm his bondservant.

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.039
<v Scott Wiens>I love Phillips, Craig, and Dean.

00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Scott Wiens>There's a song that they sing called I Am a Friend of God, and He calls me Friend.

00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Scott Wiens>I love that song, but I think that song you have to be cautious because our definition of friend, it was like, He's my buddy.

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Scott Wiens>No, no, he is the God of heaven.

00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Scott Wiens>The God of heaven.

00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Scott Wiens>And you, he is my friend, but he is someone who I worship and venerate, and I fall on my face and bow before him, and I give my whole life to him.

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Scott Wiens>He's the God I worship.

00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Scott Wiens>He's not my buddy.

00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Scott Wiens>And I I every morning I pray that I say, God, I want to do your will today, not mine.

00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Scott Wiens>I am your servant today, not me.

00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Scott Wiens>You want to really pound that in?

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Scott Wiens>Start praying for other things other than yourself.

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Scott Wiens>You'll quickly come to understand that.

00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Scott Wiens>It's that's not that's not what we're supposed to do.

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Scott Wiens>So the question is, are we exemplifying our faith in our relationships?

00:33:47.279 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Scott Wiens>Are we exemplifying the faith that Abel had in our marriages, the way we raise our children, our jobs, when we drive in Knoxville traffic, when we interact with the lost.

00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Scott Wiens>It's a sacrifice.

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Scott Wiens>Our faith, like that of Abel, is played out in every part of our lives.

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Scott Wiens>Secondly, our offering our physical treasures to God in faith.

00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Scott Wiens>And I appreciated what Josh had to say when he was introducing the offering.

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Scott Wiens>Can you imagine what it would have been like if you could have been there to watch Abel prepare his offering?

00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Scott Wiens>Abel, you know, if you if you tend sheep, if you tend animals, if you're a shepherd, you love these animals.

00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Scott Wiens>Although sometimes, and I appreciated your series on shepherding, sometimes it drives a little crazy.

00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Scott Wiens>But he he must have remembered watching that.

00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Scott Wiens>Let's just say it was a lamb.

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Scott Wiens>Watch it being born and knowing this is God's.

00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Scott Wiens>Then watching it grow, and when the time came to offer, he went through and he picked that lamb up.

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Scott Wiens>And although it was gonna be a little hard for him because he loved that animal, he knew it wasn't his, it was God's.

00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Scott Wiens>And he prepared that.

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Scott Wiens>He did it in faith.

00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Scott Wiens>He did it joyfully, he brought it to the Lord joyfully.

00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Scott Wiens>I think that's that's what his heart was.

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Scott Wiens>One of the greatest tests of our faith is how we faithfully give back to God a small portion of what he's given us.

00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Scott Wiens>We all say amen when you say it's all God's, anyways, right?

00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Scott Wiens>Oh, yeah, amen.

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Scott Wiens>And then we look at our budgets.

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Scott Wiens>This room could be filled with testimonies of people, because I know a lot of you that you gave to God even when it didn't add up in your quicken account.

00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Scott Wiens>But you still did.

00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Scott Wiens>That was faith that drove that.

00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Scott Wiens>And by the way, when I were was a part of a church that was more of a legalistic church, I remember giving legalistically.

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Scott Wiens>I mean 10%, exactly 10%, but I gave it in a legalistic sense, but yet I still wanted to give it.

00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Scott Wiens>And when grace came on us and we began to receive grace and understand grace, I can tell you this we still gave that 10%, but now 10% didn't mean that much.

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:31.039
<v Scott Wiens>Because sometimes God said, Hey, I want you to give sacrificially, and we go, Oh, really?

00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Scott Wiens>Yeah, oh, you sure?

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Scott Wiens>My wife and I have had some interesting conversations about that.

00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Scott Wiens>But yet it was with joy that we gave.

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Scott Wiens>And I got something to report to all of you.

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Scott Wiens>I have never successfully outgiven God.

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Scott Wiens>I just want to let you know that I'm gonna go on record.

00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Scott Wiens>I've tried it, it doesn't work.

00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Scott Wiens>So call him in, you know, put him to task on this.

00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Scott Wiens>Remember that scripture?

00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Scott Wiens>It says, put me to the test in this.

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Scott Wiens>He's saying, demonstrate your faith in how you give of the treasures that really aren't yours, anyways.

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Scott Wiens>Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says in Luke 6, 38, give and it will be given to you.

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Scott Wiens>Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put onto your lap.

00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Scott Wiens>For the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Scott Wiens>The King of the universe, the Son of God Himself, your Savior, says, Give and I'll give back and I'll blow your mind.

00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Scott Wiens>Do you believe that?

00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Scott Wiens>Because that's what faith is, it's believing when you read things like this.

00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Scott Wiens>Josh already mentioned the scripture in 2 Corinthians.

00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Scott Wiens>Thanks for that, Josh.

00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Scott Wiens>Appreciate that.

00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Scott Wiens>I'll actually read the whole scripture though.

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Scott Wiens>2 Corinthians 9, 6 through 7, Paul says to the Corinthians, he's talking about the offering to the saints in Jerusalem, and that's the context of this.

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Scott Wiens>And he says, the point is this whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Scott Wiens>Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Scott Wiens>Now we focus on this, God loves a cheerful giver, and that's true.

00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.320
<v Scott Wiens>But really, what he's saying is if you give in faith, you will be joyous about it.

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Scott Wiens>You'll be experiencing joy, your countenance will change.

00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Scott Wiens>You won't go, you know, someone grabs you on the end of the check and you're pulling.

00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Scott Wiens>No, you're joyously giving.

00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Scott Wiens>That's what Abel did.

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Scott Wiens>He joyously gave.

00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Scott Wiens>Faithfully putting God first in our finances can be hard.

00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Scott Wiens>And let me just say something really to make it real clear to all of you.

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Scott Wiens>We, as the elders of this church, will never use this pulpit to beat you over the Bible with the head with the Bible and scripture to try to guilt you into giving.

00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Scott Wiens>We don't pass a bucket around.

00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Scott Wiens>We don't pass that around at all.

00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Scott Wiens>We tell you there's three ways to give, and then we pray over the offering.

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Scott Wiens>And the reason we do that is because if you give out a compulsion, God doesn't want your money.

00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Scott Wiens>And what Josh said is really true.

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Scott Wiens>God doesn't need your money, He wants your faith.

00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Scott Wiens>He wants your heart.

00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Scott Wiens>He wants your life.

00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.400
<v Scott Wiens>He wants all of that, and the other stuff will follow.

00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Scott Wiens>It will follow.

00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Scott Wiens>So we'll that's one of the reasons we never talk about that.

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Scott Wiens>I remember telling one pastor of a church we were talking, I said, Yeah, we don't pass the bucket around.

00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Scott Wiens>We just, you know, he went, What?

00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Scott Wiens>I said, Yeah.

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Scott Wiens>He said, Oh, I'd never do that.

00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Scott Wiens>I'd go hungry next week.

00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Scott Wiens>I'm like, well, where's your faith?

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Scott Wiens>Where's your faith?

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:53.760
<v Scott Wiens>And the last part, offering our gifts to him in faith.

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Scott Wiens>When I say gifts now, I'm talking about the gifts that he gives every believer.

00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Scott Wiens>Okay, so in the New Testament, gifts are listed, and there's really two categories of gifts.

00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Scott Wiens>There's what we call service gifts.

00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Scott Wiens>Those are gifts like serving and supporting, you know, administration, gifts of administration, uh, leadership.

00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.159
<v Scott Wiens>Those are gifts God gives us to give.

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Scott Wiens>And then the other gifts are more the spiritual gifts, or what called the speaking gifts.

00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Scott Wiens>And those are things like the ability to communicate God's truth, maybe teaching, you know, prophecy, a word of knowledge, all those things.

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Scott Wiens>So he gives us those gifts.

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Scott Wiens>Everyone in here, I've looked it up and it says it in Scripture: every one of you has at least one gift.

00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Scott Wiens>Some of you have more than one, and that makes us a little jealous.

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Scott Wiens>But you all have a gift.

00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Scott Wiens>And God expects you in faith to use that gift.

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Scott Wiens>But unfortunately, a lot of us, we sometimes we don't do that.

00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Scott Wiens>And the church would not be what it is today if you didn't use your gifts.

00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Scott Wiens>We're supposed to use that, those gifts.

00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Scott Wiens>1 Corinthians 12, 4 through 7 just basically talks about all the variety of gifts that are given.

00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Scott Wiens>And I love it, it says, now there are a variety of gifts, but the same Spirit.

00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Scott Wiens>There's a variety of service, but the same Lord.

00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.119
<v Scott Wiens>There are varieties of activities, but the same God who empowers them all to everyone.

00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Scott Wiens>And listen to this: to each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:28.719
<v Scott Wiens>The only reason that any church functions as the body of Christ is everybody should be giving of those gifts.

00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Scott Wiens>We shouldn't have that 80-20 rule going on in a church where 20% of the people do 80% of the work.

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Scott Wiens>That's one of the reasons we want you to get plugged in.

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Scott Wiens>And you might say, Oh, yeah, I just want to use this as slave labor.

00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Scott Wiens>No, we don't need that.

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Scott Wiens>What we need you is walking in what God's gifted you in.

00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Scott Wiens>And you know when you see somebody doing that, which you get to see every week up here with these worship people.

00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Scott Wiens>You ever watch Brooke Brook Brooke sing?

00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Scott Wiens>Does she look like she's struggling?

00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.239
<v Scott Wiens>She's serving, she's loving what she does.

00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Scott Wiens>I love seeing people in our coffee bar.

00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Scott Wiens>They're smiling, they're having a good time, they're laughing, they're getting my order wrong.

00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Scott Wiens>No, they never get it wrong.

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Scott Wiens>They never get it wrong.

00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Scott Wiens>I always say, hey, I want the usual, and they've gotten used to me now.

00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Scott Wiens>But they they love what they do.

00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Scott Wiens>God wants you to cheerfully serve.

00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Scott Wiens>And when you do that, you're the you're the most at peace.

00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Scott Wiens>And so we can show the faith of Abel and how we steward the gifts that God's given us in faith.

00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.760
<v Scott Wiens>So I'm going to conclude here real quickly.

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Scott Wiens>You may have been sitting here getting a little convicted.

00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Scott Wiens>And may you might say, you know what, I have not given my whole life.

00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Scott Wiens>Maybe you're struggling with submitting all of your life to God.

00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Scott Wiens>Maybe you got your one foot outside of your faith.

00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Scott Wiens>Maybe you're struggling with trusting God with your finances.

00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Scott Wiens>Maybe you're being selfish with the gifts God's given you, and you're just coming to church and leaving, and you're not serving the body.

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Scott Wiens>Whether inside the church or outside, you're not serving and using those gifts God's given you.

00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Scott Wiens>And let me just say this: I am certainly not throwing stones up here.

00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Scott Wiens>Because the reality is we can all do better at this.

00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Scott Wiens>And the other reality is through my life, I have definitely not done any, all of these three, I've not done them well at different times in my life.

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Scott Wiens>But I'm striving to.

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Scott Wiens>And so if you're feeling convicted, don't feel shame.

00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Scott Wiens>Feel the conviction and say, I want to do something about this.

00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Scott Wiens>I want to have the faith of Abel.

00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Scott Wiens>I want to be in the hall of faith.

00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Scott Wiens>Not because you want to see your name in lights, but because you want to be like Abel.

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Scott Wiens>That's why it was preserved for us to be convicted of that.

00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.320
<v Scott Wiens>Do you want to see your faith increased?

00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Scott Wiens>It might seem like a simple question, and one of those duh, like, of course, Scott, I want to see my faith.

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Scott Wiens>Faith increase.

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Scott Wiens>Well, remember, it might come with a cost.

00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Scott Wiens>It might mean you have a stronghold that you're going to have to tear down.

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Scott Wiens>But he'll give you the strength to do it.

00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Scott Wiens>He's the one that can empower you to do that.

00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Scott Wiens>Because here's what I know faith comes from God.

00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Scott Wiens>It's a gift from God.

00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Scott Wiens>And so here's a few things you can do if you want to grow in your in your faith.

00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Scott Wiens>The first thing is repent.

00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Scott Wiens>What Cain did not do.

00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Scott Wiens>Do.

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Scott Wiens>When you're convicted of something, when you're convicted that, wait a second, I've not been serving the Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've not been, I've not had the faith of able to give faithfully.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've not had that.

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<v Scott Wiens>I've kept part of my life out here.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you're in that person, just repent.

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<v Scott Wiens>But do do it genuinely and ask God to convict you of that.

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<v Scott Wiens>And then ask God for more faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>Faith is a gift.

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<v Scott Wiens>It says that in Romans 12, verse 3.

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<v Scott Wiens>Faith is a gift from God, it's a measured gift to us, and it can grow.

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<v Scott Wiens>And how does it grow?

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<v Scott Wiens>Well, you just immerse yourself in God's word.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what Romans 10 tells us.

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<v Scott Wiens>Romans 10, verse 7 17 says, So faith comes from hearing and hearing through the word of Christ.

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<v Scott Wiens>That faith that we continue, that the word of God that keep pouring over top of us, the closer and the stronger your relationship with God, the stronger your faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>And the more trials and troubles and things you bounce through and you come out the other side because God dragged you through it, it builds your faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's why I love our older saints in this church because they've been through it and they're still here.

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<v Scott Wiens>And they will tell you about the times they struggled in their faith, but they'll also tell you that God came through and he continues to come through every time.

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<v Scott Wiens>And us as younger people, I'm including myself in there.

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<v Scott Wiens>We need to learn from that.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's why Abel, his example is taught to us here.

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<v Scott Wiens>We can learn from Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>He will bring us through that.

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<v Scott Wiens>He's faithful.

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<v Scott Wiens>Please stand to your feet if you don't mind.

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<v Scott Wiens>You know, we're told that we should pray for one another and encourage one another.

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<v Scott Wiens>And I really want to encourage all of you.

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<v Scott Wiens>If you want prayer for this, we will have a prayer team after we pray for Derek.

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<v Scott Wiens>We'll have a prayer team up here.

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<v Scott Wiens>But if there's someone, just a brother or sister in Christ, that you just say, I need someone to pray for me, grab them.

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<v Scott Wiens>Take them in the corner and say, I need prayer.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's what we're supposed to do.

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<v Scott Wiens>And God answers.

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<v Scott Wiens>That's a good prayer.

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<v Scott Wiens>Because God will answer that.

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<v Scott Wiens>Let me pray over all of us right now.

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<v Scott Wiens>Father, I thank you for the faith of Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>I thank you in the face of someone like Cain with his evil heart and his wrong offering and his countenance that was just so opposite of what you wanted, that we have a beautiful example of faith in Cain.

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<v Scott Wiens>Or in Abel, Father.

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<v Scott Wiens>I just thank you for Abel.

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<v Scott Wiens>I thank you for his faith, and I thank you that we were able to learn from that.

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<v Scott Wiens>And Father, I pray right now in the name of Jesus that you impart to all of us a greater measure of faith.

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<v Scott Wiens>That we would walk forward, that we would give our lives totally and completely to you, Lord, that we would not be hindered by the bills or the numbers that we would just faithfully give to you, knowing that you will provide.

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<v Scott Wiens>And that, Father, the gifts that you've given us so beautifully, those gifts to serve and to teach, the word of knowledge and prophecy, God, that you would just give us the faith to use them, to use them for the common good of your body.

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<v Scott Wiens>Lord, saturate this church with your faith that we might bring glory to you in everything we say and everything that we do, Lord.

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<v Scott Wiens>And it's to your name we give all the glory.

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<v Scott Wiens>Amen.
