Protestants Harass Catholics in Texas During Eucharistic Procession

The age-old question of how to handle crying babies at Mass sparks a deeper conversation about parenting, reverence, and the future of the Church. "If your Mass ain't crying, it's dying" captures an important truth about vibrant parishes, but where's the line between welcoming families and maintaining sacred worship?

As Catholic fathers, we dive into the practical realities of bringing children to Mass—sharing our own struggles, successes, and the occasional parenting mishaps. We explore the profound difference between an infant's occasional cry and the entitled parenting that allows older children to disrupt Mass without intervention. The challenging truth is that parents have a responsibility not just to bring children to church, but to gradually teach them appropriate behavior in sacred spaces.

From our personal experiences—taking restless four-year-olds to the narthex, teaching toddlers to recognize Jesus at the Consecration, and receiving both death glares and encouragement from fellow parishioners—we offer insights into this delicate balance. We acknowledge the special challenges of traveling families, single parents, and children with special needs, while emphasizing how even very young children can begin to understand the reverence due to the Eucharist.

Beyond the baby debate, we tackle controversial topics including Eucharistic procession protests in Texas, the jaw-dropping story of someone willing to spend $17,000 on cat cancer treatments, and concerning trends in Catholic apologetics. We finish with hopeful signs of traditional Catholicism's resurgence among young Americans seeking substance and meaning in an increasingly rootless culture.

Join us for this honest, sometimes humorous exploration of Catholic family life and the challenges of raising faithful children in today's world. Your experience matters—how do you handle the crying baby question at your parish?

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Chapters

• 0:00 The Polarizing Sound of Crying Babies
• 5:23 Parish Experiences and Parental Responsibility
• 12:05 Teaching Children Mass Reverence
• 19:20 When to Take Children Out of Mass
• 28:27 Unwell Trip: Family Vacation Disaster
• 45:45 Rekusen Cellars Sponsorship
• 47:40 Eucharistic Procession Controversy
• 56:19 The $17,000 Cat Surgery Dilemma
• 1:10:08 Jimmy Aiken and Catholic Apologetics
• 1:18:58 German Bishop Resigns & Traditional Revival

Transcript

Speaker 1: 1:07

One of the worst sounds in the world is a baby crying. I think I read somewhere that when they were trying to torture prisoners of war, they would pipe in the sound of babies crying. It's painful to hear babies crying. Why do babies cry? Why? Why do babies cry? Why? Why do babies cry? Children cry because they like being jerks. I love Father Mike again.

Speaker 2: 1:31

Yes, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3: 1:37

People get so upset about the crying babies position I take and I don't understand it.

Speaker 2: 1:46

I hear you threatened Taffy with the horse head in his bed if he didn't make that for us.

Speaker 3: 1:52

Taffy has put himself in a position where he has to give us an intro for every episode now.

Speaker 2: 1:58

Yeah, and because he started off doing it for Taff, we're never going to pay you either. Yeah, we're never paying.

Speaker 3: 2:02

you are just our, our opening video servant, because I gotta tell you his opening video, like our the beginning of our song going right into something by taffy, is my favorite intro for the show yeah yeah, yeah, it's by far. Uh, father Mike no longer cringed. Yeah, this debate is interesting because the saying if your mass ain't crying, it's dying is very prevalent, to the point where somebody forged a saying by St John Chrysostom saying something along those lines.

Speaker 2: 2:40

And not even one of the good ones by St.

Speaker 3: 2:41

John Chrysostom. There's zero chance, st John Chrysostom, saying something along those lines, not even one of the good ones by saint john chrysostom there's zero chance.

Speaker 3: 2:45

Saint john chrysostom said that like not even, not even remote possibility and the uh. The thing is what it has done, that saying your mass ain't crying, if your mass ain't crying, it's dying. I get the sentiment. It means you want young children at mass because it means your families are growing and you have a thriving parish, which is very true. But what it has done is given a sense of entitlement to certain parents who think when their kid cries it's actually a good thing and not even so much the crying kids.

Speaker 2: 3:17

It's the older kids that are misbehaving and whining and, trust me, my kids do this quite often.

Speaker 3: 3:26

All kids do this. It's what kids do. But I said today that I have witnessed some of the worst parenting in my entire life at Mass. Now I will say they typically at a Novus Ordoordo, but I've seen the trad parishes too. Um, not my regular parishes. The children of the parishes I go to are all saints. They genuflect by nine months. They uh, beat their chest, as they confess. They beat their chest at nine months, um, but no, I've seen, I've been in a position where two siblings will be fighting in the pews and the parents do nothing. And it's like you have an obligation as a parent at that point to separate the kids. It's. I've had my own teenage daughters were giggling at mass recently, like a weeks ago, and I literally put one on one side of me and one on the other. Like you, you have to be a parent. Still, it's like like no, we're not getting mad if your baby starts to cry, but if the baby's continuously crying, you have to take the baby into the vestibule of the narthex.

Speaker 2: 4:36

Oh, yeah, and, and as I was telling you in the green room, like you know, we travel four hours round trip for mass, uh, and that means that means like my four-year-old has had a two-hour car car ride, but then he gets to mass on, you know, midday, sunday. He is, he is energetic and he's a little terror, yeah, so I spend most of the mass in theex with him. Right, just because he's a little terror doesn't mean he gets to terrorize everyone else at mass. Iggy, not Maddie.

Speaker 2: 5:08

Maddie is getting better because now he's able to, he can read now, so he's reading his children's missile and really starting to take it all in, and, since we've made the full time switch to TLM and told them the reasons why he's starting to take it all in, and, um, since we've made the full-time switch to tlm and told them the reasons why, he's starting to take that very seriously too. So, yeah, yeah, really it's. In the last couple months he's made a huge, a huge switch so how old is maddie?

Speaker 3: 5:34

six okay, and and iggy's what? Four, four okay. So I remember um with all my kids, but especially my youngest was stella, um, by the time she was three that's my mom I want to know how rob was at manson. He was a baby um, yeah, I don't know actually, when.

Speaker 3: 5:56

Well, I'll tell you this growing up, my mom had nine kids, and so when you have that many kids, though, the older ones tend to then take care of the younger ones, right. So we would go to mass and it would be the older four would actually hold the younger ones and, like we would take, I knew it.

Speaker 2: 6:15

I was perfect. You know why? Because me and my brother we were threatened with. Don't make me have to take you outside like to the car.

Speaker 3: 6:24

That was bad.

Speaker 2: 6:25

Yeah, because the parish's parking lot was right up the hill. You know, if you got taken out to the car, that meant you were being put in the car, doors closed and you were getting spanked and no one could hear you cry.

Speaker 3: 6:40

There's one thing that the older generation did discipline their children. We do deal with this gentle parenting nonsense now, but so, but I remember my youngest especially. But I did it with all of them, but and this was it's interesting because this was at a nova sordo parish too, but they still rang the bells at the consecration and by two, three years old, I was already trying to teach my kids that something important was happening up at the altar. And when the bells of consecration would get rung um, my daughter, when she was two and three years old, will go jesus, jesus. So, like even now when we go to mass, my youngest will still look over at me when the bells of consecration get wrong, as kind of like an inside joke, because I used to hold her and she would go Jesus, jesus and she would whisper it like because they, she knew when the bells were wrong that that was something important happening. So you know, there's I've I've seen people allow their six and seven year olds to eat Cheerios in the pew and play with noisy toys, and it's like you do have an obligation to start teaching your kids that something important is happening at the altar.

Speaker 3: 7:51

Like I understand, two years old, three years old, that's. That's a bit much. But somebody told me today that, uh, they were in the cry room and one of the parents brought McDonald's in for their kid and set them up with chicken nuggets and dipping sauce in the cry room and it's like do you know the?

Speaker 3: 8:05

lesson you're teaching your child at that point.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Yeah, like you know, we we've had, we've brought snacks, uh, not so much, amina doesn't really need. Um, it was mostly milk we would bring uh maddie, especially when you're a year old. Well, it was like two, three, but it was also after a long car ride. But they've kind of grown out of that and mina mina doesn't mean, it's not like that as much.

Speaker 3: 8:32

So I can understand snacks for a smaller, younger child, especially if you have a long car ride, but chicken nuggets with dipping sauce yeah, that's a bit much, but I'm not and I'm not even talking about the two-year-olds like I'm serious when I say like seven, eight year, like these are kids that are probably those are kids that should be getting ready for first communion first communion like past, like at the age of reason, like there's no excuse for unless your kid has special needs, like I do understand.

Speaker 3: 8:57

There's a lot of children with autism and things like that.

Speaker 2: 8:59

It's a very different situation yeah, there's a lot of exceptions to things we're talking about, so no one get offended because yeah, there are exceptions, but absolutely, but for the most part, like you should be.

Speaker 3: 9:12

So the thing is like I never, ever, hit my kids once in their lives. So I know a lot of people will criticize that it's not gentle parenting. If I raised my voice, my like my children have a healthy fear of their father, so that if I even raise my voice, my kids are like, oh, my goodness, like they're terrified of me getting upset, not me hitting them, they just they're just afraid of me getting upset. So it's like I I don't I'll get the the parents who are letting their kids make noise active in a pew. It's like I get the kids might be a little restless, but you have an obligation as a parent to keep the noise down and do your best. I'm not even saying you're going to be successful, but you need to try, cause when I see the parents just staring up at the altar doing nothing while their kids are bickering, I'm like I want to go over and like discipline their children. I get furious at it now.

Speaker 2: 10:06

Now there's, there's another side of this, and I see this, or have seen it much more often, at um, your typical uh, boomer filled novice ordo, where you know your kid lets out and I mean like an infant lets out a small cry, and you'll see a few older people turn towards you and give you a death glare and like I mean that's, that's like the opposite side of this, where, where they don't understand, like their so-called participation, their attention, superspeed and mass yeah, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2: 10:39

You know what I mean. Like mass doesn't matter. You know what I mean. Like it doesn't affect the mass.

Speaker 3: 10:46

Yeah, kale, saying in the old days people wouldn't even go to mass if there were kids. But what I was saying earlier is like my parents had nine kids. The older ones would hold the younger ones. I can't remember a single Sunday where we left mass and somebody didn't come up to my mother and say I cannot believe how well behaved your children are, and that and that's going from six months old a year and a half old. Like my parents kids were all Irish twins. They're all like within 18 months apart. So it was like, well, no, there's a, so there's the older four are all like a year and a half apart, and then there's an eight year gap between mikey and joey and then the bottom five are all 18 months apart. So there's.

Speaker 3: 11:28

But there was never a sunday where we would leave mass, where somebody didn't come up to my mom and just be like I cannot, you have such a beautiful family. I cannot believe how well behaved your children are, like it was. It was like they all knew you do not act up at mass, you know. So I, I have, I give, I give. If mom's there alone with the kids, there's a lot more leeway given, obviously, but if dad's there. I give no leeway. Like your kids, if you give them a look at mass, your kids should go. That's man. Or like you're in your case, like your young, your young son is restless from the car ride. You take him outside and you make sure he's not disrupting mass for everybody. You know it's just. It's just common courtesy, guys. It doesn't mean we don't love children. It doesn't mean it's just be courteous to the people around you. You're not entitled because you have kids oh yeah, all right.

Speaker 2: 12:18

Yeah, yeah, we love, trust me, we love kids like I. Have not attended a like a mass and gotten to just sit there and partake in six years since maddie was born, and it's not ending anytime soon no, yeah, you're gonna keep pumping them out, probably, so promise a great treat to the kids if they are well behaved at.

Speaker 3: 12:39

Mass carrot, not the stick. That's a good, that's good.

Speaker 2: 12:42

Yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of different look and every kid's going to be different, but we often take them to like the uh, because we, you know, we drive the two hours to the bigger city. Uh, there's a lot more stuff that we can do there that we don't get the opportunity here, so we'll often take them to the aquarium or zoo or something like that after mass.

Speaker 3: 12:59

So yeah, I always, whenever we would go to holy innocence, we would do that like I would take the. If we went to holy innocence because it was an hour and a half ride into the city, we would always go for like a special brunch after me and nicole would take him to the met or we would, you know, do something uh we are.

Speaker 2: 13:14

We are catholic bill we are catholic.

Speaker 3: 13:16

Yes, bill, welcome to the show. Um, you know what, before we get, before we get, should we cover the story right away.

Speaker 2: 13:25

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Speaker 3: 13:28

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Speaker 2: 13:59

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Speaker 3: 14:27

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Speaker 2: 14:28

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Speaker 2: 14:40

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Speaker 3: 14:48

I can't help it. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that hey, that's good, we got hooked on phonics in the chat. Hooked on phonics, all right. So all right. Before we get to the main topic religious hippie seven yeah before we get to the main topic. I want to cover two videos. I want to cover two videos I want to do rob. I sent you the one that says will this marriage last? I want to talk about this one first.

Speaker 2: 15:15

Okay, hold on, hold on. Is this the the cat one, the cat one. Okay, then there's the airplane one, right?

Speaker 3: 15:22

yeah, then we got the airplane one.

Speaker 2: 15:23

We're gonna do these two videos and maybe we'll we'll release these as clips later well, if we're gonna release them as clips, why do we want to do them first?

Speaker 3: 15:33

all right, so let's do the main story then. Okay, um, okay we?

Speaker 2: 15:39

uh, that was the pillar article right?

Speaker 3: 15:41

yeah, it was, I sent a few. I sent a lot of stuff today. Yeah, I do that at times.

Speaker 2: 15:48

I'm sorry guys don't say sorry to them I'm the one that has to deal with.

Speaker 3: 15:53

You are the one that has to go through it. Okay, so protest prompts perpetual pilgrims pull from procession. Is that a tongue twister or what protest prompts perpetual pilgrims pull from procession. Is that a tongue twister or what Protest prompts perpetual pilgrims? Pull from procession.

Speaker 2: 16:10

Thank you, JD.

Speaker 3: 16:12

Okay, here we go. Jd Flynn yeah, protest prompts perpetual pilgrims. Pull from procession. Amid ongoing protests during a national walking Eucharistic pilgrimage, organizers pulled full-time perpetual pilgrims Saturday from a Eucharistic procession in Abilene, texas, as demonstrators have begun harassing and taunting pilgrims by name during the public processions. I'm having a hard time with saying that, and San Angelo's Bishop, michael Siss Is Michael Siss the that um had the issue with the nuns in his diocese? He might told the pillar saturday that he's urged catholics?

Speaker 3: 16:52

I think that might be. Uh urged catholics, uh, to keep your focus on jesus, despite the protest, while encouraging law enforcement officials to ensure the safety of the Eucharistic processions, officials with the National Eucharistic Congress and the Diocese of San Angelo, texas, told the Pillar on background Saturday that eight college-age perpetual pilgrims of the National Eucharistic Pilgrimage would not participate in public procession events during their June 7th and 8th visit to West Texas and the diocese. The pilgrimage is an eight-week journey from Indianapolis to LA, part of a three-year Eucharistic revival called for by the US Bishops Conference and primarily organized by the Congress. Blah blah, blah blah.

Speaker 2: 17:36

They're saying it's not the same bishop. That was Bishop Olsen Fort.

Speaker 3: 17:39

Worth. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Since the first week of the procession, protesters have demonstrated along the route, primarily organized by the Church of Wells, a Texas-based religious group which criticizes Eucharistic adoration as contrary to the Christian gospel. I will say this at least they're consistent, right? I mean, if they're going to accuse us of idol worship like this, this is the thing they accuse us of idol worship for. They are filthy heathens, don't get me wrong, I'm just. At least they're logically consistent. Protests have escalated in recent weeks, with demonstrators shouting scriptural admonitions, playing musical instruments and calling these are people are like disgusting leftists. Instruments and calling these are people are like disgusting leftists. Like like when you, when you see like a conservative go to speak and they try to make noise and just like round them out.

Speaker 2: 18:28

That's what they're doing I wonder if they ever include any of john six and their scriptural ad.

Speaker 3: 18:32

Oh, of course not a chance, and calling both to petra, perpetual pilgrims, and to catholics joining the eucharistic processions held in cities visited by the pilgrimage. The demonstrators have led to increased security. Protestants have in recent days begun harassing pilgrims by name, sources said ahead of the decision to withhold their participation in the Saturday evening Eucharistic procession. Why do they have to add so many words that are unnecessary? Reportedly a procession scheduled for San Angelo on Sunday, but as the perpetual pilgrims sat out the Saturday evening procession, protesters were not found along the route, leaving uncertain whether demonstrators will arrive in San Angelo Sunday and whether that could impact the participation of the pilgrims. It is also not clear whether the pilgrims will participate in public events, and how did they get their names?

Speaker 2: 19:24

so these perpetual pilgrims are more or less college kids who are being are part of the procession the entire way right, whereas most of the people involved are local town at the moment. These are are people that are involved from the very beginning, so their, their names are published like on the the congress's website and stuff like that where are the uh texas catholics there to counter protest is what I want to know, like why?

Speaker 3: 19:57

why are there? Why is there not security by, like local parishes, making sure these animals don't affect our processions? It's an interesting thing. We're in a Protestant country, especially Texas. Texas is a very heavily Bible Belt country. Right, would that be considered Bible Belt?

Speaker 2: 20:16

Texas. I think it depends on the parts, part of Texas, like I think it depends on the the parts uh part of part of that. You know, yeah, like maybe east texas, north texas, but like southern texas is going to be largely, you know, hispanic and catholic it's like the the thing that converted the pagans was our pageantry and our processions and things like that.

Speaker 3: 20:39

It's just like like I don't know, do you think the bishop should have told them to pull out, or do you think he should have pilgrims? Yeah, like is the procession still going on?

Speaker 2: 20:51

he just told the procession still going on. Okay, he's just saying like these, these people seem to be literally targeting these people by name. So for those individual safety, maybe they shouldn't be there at this.

Speaker 3: 21:04

Yeah, and I get that. That's. That's fair. Yeah, all right, I thought, as long as you didn't cancel the actual procession no, I don't believe so when I first heard this I thought it was going to be like, uh, the westborough baptist church or something. I was there in dallas I have. I have to laugh at one point that the guy yelled we are here risking our lives to bring you the truth, it's like this.

Speaker 2: 21:28

We're not in la right now. Dude like settle down.

Speaker 3: 21:31

They're so dramatic, like to think of, like, what real dangers to this country are. They're protesting. Eucharistic processions these people are sick. Um, texas is heavily, uh, southern baptist in my experience. Uh, the the thing is that's, that's, this is true. Right, they understand that this is a spiritual war, but they don't understand they are on the wrong side.

Speaker 3: 21:54

Eucharistic processions are eucharistic armies of the faithful marching to take territory. So, yeah, well, if you're looking at it as Catholic versus Protestant, they're right to go for that, because that actually is the thing that will convert hearts. Like Rob, I'm in New York City and Father Maiara from Holy Innocence will do Eucharistic processions through New York City, yep, and you'll get two reactions, well, three. Some people will obviously just walk by and not even acknowledge it. But then you'll get the Catholics who have something deep in their heart that, even if they're not like practicing Catholic, when they see a monstrance they'll get on their knees and make the sign of the cross. And it's a very powerful image to have a procession going by with that monstrance. And what's the canopy called, do you know? Oh, I forget.

Speaker 3: 22:50

I know that word. They walk with this canopy and the monstrance and you'll just see these construction workers that are working on a job site and they'll just drop to their knees and make the sign of the cross. It's a very powerful image, but then you'll also get that chaotic, satanic reaction from people who like it's like the demons arousing them. You know it's, it's it. It's a very cool thing to witness. In new york. There's a, there's a youtube video called uh uh, I know what you're talking. It's called jesus christ in the city, or?

Speaker 3: 23:24

something I think we've even played part of it on here before it's so cool and you just you get a glimpse of what it looks like when father mayara walks through with the eucharist um, so yesterday we were gonna go, uh, but we didn't get it.

Speaker 2: 23:39

I actually have crazy, crazy weekend stories.

Speaker 3: 23:42

Oh, let's hear them.

Speaker 2: 23:44

I love it, but I'll go into them after after this. But yesterday here in our diocese in Duluth we had the the our local Novus Ordo parish. The first priest of that parish is right now. Is is venerable and has an open cause for sainthood. His name was Monsignor Joseph Boo. He was a Slovenian missionary who came here for all the Slovenian miners and also converted a lot of the native tribes up here. But anyways, his cause for sainthood is open and last year they got permission to exhume his body from where he was buried and yesterday they processed it through the city of Duluth to the cathedral to be entombed in the cathedral. So wait, people think Eucharistic processions are weird. This one was probably especially weird, but that's that. But that's weird in like an amazing, awesome, the macabre, the macabre of catholicism.

Speaker 3: 24:48

Yeah, is my favorite part of it, like the veneration of relics is the coolest.

Speaker 2: 24:53

Glad you guys patched things up since last week I want to, so so I, I, when I, when I'm not on the show, I don't watch it, because then I'm like what was the point of me Not, you know, like not being.

Speaker 3: 25:04

I'm taking a break. You need a break.

Speaker 2: 25:07

So the next morning I wake up to numerous emails asking if everything's okay, saying they're praying for me and aunt, and I'm like Whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened?

Speaker 3: 25:18

He texts me and he goes. What the hell did you say you're?

Speaker 2: 25:23

the worst. What did you say?

Speaker 3: 25:27

what the hell did you say? People are sending me messages asking if we're okay. I'm like dude. I said like the silliest, like most sarcastic opening. I was like, yeah, me and rob had a falling out. I'm interviewing new co-hosts right now, like it's just so silly.

Speaker 2: 25:46

But like two minutes later you said it was a joke.

Speaker 3: 25:48

Yeah, like like literally a minute and a half later I was like, no, this is what really happened to rob. But people thought I was serious.

Speaker 2: 25:54

So yeah so. So this ties in well to our weekend story. So last Thursday I missed, because Wednesday, my middle child, iggy. He still sleeps in pull-ups. He's potty trained but he's still working on holding it all night, so he sleeps in pull-ups.

Speaker 2: 26:18

He had a massive bout of diarrhea in his sleep, slept through it, it blew out of the pull-up, he slept through it and rolled around in it. So he woke up head to toe covered and I mean it was on his face. Like I, I I go to wake him up in the morning and he crawls out of bed and I'm seeing this and he turns to face me and I see it on his face and I'm like I almost throw up on the poor kid. So so he. So that was a bad way to wake up and he was. He had diarrhea all day and it's like, okay, I'm gonna take the night off, work on getting iggy feeling better. You know all that, especially because on friday we traveled down to the twin cities for our drive, because hope's nephew was getting married on saturday. So we wanted to drive down there Friday, get settled into a hotel and have a fun day Saturday and stuff.

Speaker 3: 27:08

I'm sorry, that's a funny line. That's what happens. It's a good line, Jim.

Speaker 2: 27:18

So about 30 minutes from the drive being done. We're just pulling into the Twin Cities. We've got 20, 30 minutes from the drive being done. We're just pulling into the Twin Cities. We got 20-30 minutes left. Matty throws up in the car. He has a history of being car sick. We were just finishing up almost five of our drive. I figured he got car sick. Okay, no big deal, we get him cleaned up. We get to the hotel, get settled in. He throws up again. That's not car sickness's a virus. Then 20 minutes after that he throws up again. Oh no, and then iggy has diarrhea and you know. So it just you. Huh, did you or hope get it? Yes, the next morning I started with stomach aches. By Saturday night I'm throwing up multiple times. So we call Hope's sister, say we just drove five hours to the Twin Cities and we can't come to your wedding. We can't come to the wedding, yeah.

Speaker 3: 28:18

At that point it's like, even if you could suck it up and go, it's not fair to the guests, right?

Speaker 2: 28:24

nobody else wants to get it right, but even then, like we're, no one is hardly going half an hour without having issues, right, yeah, well, okay. So I made sure to get a hotel with a pool, right. We can't let the kids swim if they're having, you know, diarrhea.

Speaker 3: 28:41

Well, our room's, overlooking the pool and the kids want to go in the pool so literally all day.

Speaker 2: 28:47

All day, saturday we're in the hotel room all sick, the kids are looking down at the pool knowing they can't swim. Hope can't go to the wedding we were supposed to go to. We would have just drove home but, like I said, none of us are going more than half an hour without issues. So five hour car rides not gonna happen not even have been did you say two nights? Yeah?

Speaker 3: 29:07

yeah, we did, but like the the thing, the thing about stories like this, though they're the only ones you remember so it's like it's I, like I just I had to to call Bobby today because something really bad happened to me.

Speaker 3: 29:25

Uh, I'm not going to tell it on this side, I'll tell it on. Okay, it's just very expensive problem happened to me, very, very, very expensive, um, and it's like these, these things happen to us and in the moment you're like, oh my gosh, this is the worst thing that ever happened. But like five, ten years from now you're gonna look back and be like you remember the time we went to that wedding, like we were all stuck in that stupid room, like and that'll be a story to tell, like I, I don't look at like bad things the way I used to now, especially because because it's like these are the things you remember. You look back on your life, the things that stand out are the things. Those are your memories. You don't remember the mundane. You would have went to some boring-ass wedding and it would have just been some boring wedding.

Speaker 2: 30:12

Not the worst part, but another. This ended up not being a nice hotel. I saw the pictures online and the pictures looked great. We get there and it's it's run by a family from a certain oh boy, uh, from a certain uh, let's just say they're probably related to kash patel and you know like if you just open your eyes and take five like look at anything in the hotel for five seconds right and close your eyes, it looked pretty good you start looking for more than five seconds, you see that nothing's really clean, everything's dirty and dingy and like the, the wall, like they have this painting hanging on the wall with some fancy wallpaper under right.

Speaker 2: 31:01

Well, you look at it, it's not a painting, it's a frame, old, with a paper, with artwork taped to the outside of the frame, not even in the frame, and then the the, you have the normal wallpaper, then you have wallpaper right in line with the frame. Well, it's not like they put that frame there and then they kind of taped wallpaper, wallpaper kind of up on either side, but it's not exactly level, it's kind of crooked.

Speaker 3: 31:29

You know. Yeah, me and nicole went to florida one time. We, we, uh we went down with another couple and, um, when we got to the hotel, like we booked a hotel online and when you looked online it was like it looked beautiful. We got there, we walked in the room and it was just like in the bathroom there was like mold behind us. I was like I I went into that freaking uh, the you know the wherever, like the main lobby, whatever. I lost my mind. I was like I am getting a refund for every freaking dollar. We wound up going and finding a, an airbnb and staying there instead. It's just like a bad. You were sick, you couldn't even do any of that.

Speaker 2: 32:08

It's like no, we didn't really notice it for the first, like you know, half because we're settling in and stuff and figuring out. Oh, now we're all sick. By the time like we're starting to get ready to go to bed, I'm seeing holes in the wall that are kind of covered up by by yeah hotel rooms in general are just filthy, so it's like you really do have to be very careful so I really started to notice when, like, I moved the a chair, it was like a two-room suite.

Speaker 2: 32:37

I moved the chair from what the like the living area to the, to the bedroom so that, like hope, can sit with mina, right, yeah. And as I, as I go to move the chair, uh, candy wrappers start to fall out from under the cushion and I'm like, oh no, that's when I started to look at everything closer, you know I'm telling you, you and hope are gonna laugh about this.

Speaker 3: 32:58

I actually um, I'm not going to say who it was, but I so my wife talked to one of her friends who may watch this show. So I but my wife talked to one of her friends and her son had an event this weekend and it was like a hockey event and all the guys went out after and they got really drunk, yeah and he got arrested.

Speaker 3: 33:23

Oh, like, like it was just like an incident. It was like a really big deal, you know, and the mother was heartbroken and I was telling nicole, I'm like, yeah, but like, first of like, it's just like a typical thing for a 20 year old, like it's not that big of a deal, like he just got drunk and he got out of control, yeah, and it's the same thing. It's one of those things where in the moment seems like the worst thing in the world, but a couple of years from now you'll look back on it. It's just. You'll be like. You remember that weekend where you had I had to bail you out of jail, like you have to is this the thing you said you weren't going to tell on this side?

Speaker 3: 34:06

I just had something very expensive happen to me. It's meant more for our closer audience, it's not. You know, the YouTube side doesn't need to hear it. But yeah, it was just a very expensive mishap that has happened to me that I'm dealing with All all right. So let's get to the the the cat video, because I want to discuss the psychotic wife and people are telling me it's AI. No, what it is is. It wasn't actually on a Dave Ramsey episode. It's to a different call and show. They just put Dave Ramsey behind it. But this is a real thing. That happened. So it looks like Dave Ramsey is listening to. I don thing that happened. So it looks like dave ramsey's listening to. I don't know if it was a dave ramsey show. It might have been something else.

Speaker 1: 34:48

Holy crap, sean is sean is sean is spot on sean, I should have guessed spot on.

Speaker 2: 34:59

And when I say expensive, you'll all think I'm psychotic are you still going to be a boat owner after this?

Speaker 3: 35:07

or no. I'm stuck in a position where I have to like I, otherwise you're paying on something. It'll cost me more to not fix it in the long run. Like it's just so, dude, I won't even say the number, I won't even say I called bobby today and I'm like you're the only person I could tell this to, because everybody else will think I'm like, I'm not even gonna her.

Speaker 3: 35:41

My brother-in-law is the one who uh, I all right, so, oh man, I guess we're doing story time on youtube. I knew the boat was so at the end of last season the boat broke. You had to get it towed once or twice, right? Listen, here's the thing. People call us grifters like. I've had some really serious things happen, like I had my boiler go out my my oil burner.

Speaker 3: 36:10

Bro, like rob and I have never set up like a go fund me to help rob's car freaking the motor basically blew up on it like neither of us have ever like. Oh, help us do that like we do our show. If you guys enjoy the show you come to locals. Neither of us have ever begged for money or asked for something like I would never. I'll tell you guys a story on the other side that, like you mean, you'll end up saying in about 10 minutes, probably I'm gonna save that one for the other side because this, that one's so crazy.

Speaker 3: 36:39

But thank you one okay, just added you on youtube like, like the things that have happened to both of us, where I know our audience loves us enough that they would be generous and help us shut up grover um, because people, like people did, did offer to set it well, not a.

Speaker 2: 36:57

They were sending money, like when my car broke, and I told them not. Yeah, absolutely exactly. But for those of you who did, thank you not just that, I have to get half of it.

Speaker 3: 37:05

I have a brother who's in a very bad like we would never like. If I ever set up a gofundme, it's it's a life or death thing. Like it's gonna be, yeah, it's gonna be. Oh my gosh, like I would never grift off our audience or ask them for money for something that is not like holy cow, my kid is sick or something like that. Like that's the only time I would ever do that. So my brother-in-law, he all right. So the boat broke down at the end of last season. I had to have it towed in.

Speaker 3: 37:41

I had Joe Boca with me on the boat. I was out with Joe Boca, we went to Fire Island and then we were on our way back and the boat breaks down so I had to have it towed in. I knew it was bad. I had the mechanic just winterize it and I'm like I'll just deal with it next season, so the beginning of this season. I'm like I don't, I don't even like there's no way. So my brother-in-law was like listen, I'm coming to pick the boat up, I'm dropping it, my mechanic. So he came, like two weeks ago we picked it right before we went to Greece and he drops it as a mechanic. And I'm like this, this is this is. You know, what sucks about owning a boat is you pay insurance on it and a boat is, um, you pay insurance on it and no matter what it, but but the the insurance only covers accidents, like if you hit another boat or you, but like if something severe happens to it, they don't cover it so that's kind of like cars yeah, same thing if your motor blows in your car your insurance isn't going to cover it, so it's

Speaker 1: 38:44

like um new locals to your the bark of Peter. That's actually funny.

Speaker 3: 38:48

That's awesome.

Speaker 3: 38:49

That's genius, the bark of Anthony Snorted. Yeah, he's dancing, snorted. All right, I might have had a cocktail at the beginning of this show, all right, so anyway. So he, he picks my boat up and brings it to his, to his mechanic. Now, um, his mechanic, he, so my brother-in-law calls me today and he's like oh man, it's bad. And he tells me he's like so you're gonna talk to nicole about it? I'm like no, I don't think I'm gonna tell her. He's like you're going to talk to Nicole about it. And I'm like no, I don't think I'm going to tell her. He's like you might want to talk to her, but no, I don't even think I'm going to tell her. I came home and I did tell her, just so you guys know. The number.

Speaker 3: 39:33

I had to. I mean, it's my wife. I'm not going to not tell her, but I'll tell you, guys on the other side, plus, if you don't tell her she's going to just keep ordering things from Amazon. You got to tell her to try to decrease that. Here's the issue. It's that she keeps asking me we need this done at the house, we need this, and I'm like we don't have the money.

Speaker 3: 39:52

We don't have the money, we don't have the money Now you're like, but we do have all money for the boat, but now the boat needs to be fixed. I'm like he's like, wait a minute, you actually have enough money to fix that boat. I'm like, sick, wait, you actually have enough money to fix.

Speaker 2: 40:14

I'm like yes, technically yeah that's not.

Speaker 3: 40:20

That's not the problem. All let's get to the cat story. We're going to talk about the cat. It's actually a good lead-in. Babylon's a boat cow. If you want to hear the rest of the story, come over to Locals because we need a boat fund, so please help support us on Locals.

Speaker 2: 40:38

Seriously though our Locals number has leveled out for a few months.

Speaker 3: 40:42

We do need people to join. We actually do need local support. Our locals members have dive bombed and people are not renewing their subscription, so we're going to do we got 20 minutes left and then we're going to locals. So, um, I will, I will explain this on locals too. I'll explain why on locals and I'll tell it in hawaiian pigeon. All right, let's play that video.

Speaker 2: 41:09

See people really people really did take that seriously rob.

Speaker 3: 41:13

I was at the get off the highway during the opening of the last podcast when he said the tip with rob was out oh god, listen, I'll say this.

Speaker 3: 41:23

I rob and I actually the. Like one of the first episodes we did, we said we will never have a falling out like tnt, like it'll never end like that, like we would rather lose the podcast and lose our friendship, like that's actually a real thing. So if we ever did have a real falling out, it would definitely be presented to the audience of why it happened, like what, like I'm rob and I talk about everything, so it's not gets to keep nick as a friend who gets yes, it's kale as a friend bigger than me, just going oh, I got rid of like that would never be how I handled that first off.

Speaker 2: 42:00

If if he had just gotten rid of rob, thumbnail would have looked different. It wouldn't have worked broadcasting to locals into rumble. He would have had more issues, like you guys would know if I was gone molly.

Speaker 3: 42:13

The first thing like I butchered, like all the videos, is I bet she goes yeah, rob's not going anywhere. Rob's not going anywhere. Rob's not going anywhere. Anthony needs rob. Do we have a pre-op? All right, let's play the video, come on. No, we don't have a pre. We never even. No, we're. Oh, forget it.

Speaker 4: 42:28

We'll be in trouble if we ever have a yeah, it will be ugly, all right we've been married for three and a half years and we just welcomed our first baby six months ago. I work construction and my wife stays home with the baby.

Speaker 4: 42:45

But yeah, I'm the one bringing in the paycheck. For the last two years I've been saving every extra dollar for house down payment. Anyway, we've managed to stash about $21,000. It's not a fortune, but for us it's huge. So here's where everything kind of went sideways. Our cat turns out. He's got this aggressive cancer on his jaw. Vet says they can try a surgery and chemo combo that might buy in time, but it's 17 grand up front and no promise. My wife loves that cat and wants to go all in for the treatment. Technically we do have 21K, but that's the whole house fund. And even if the surgery works, the vet said recovery's rough. We'd need more follow-up visits, meds, maybe another procedure could be thousands more. I tried to explain the math. You know, if we spend it, we reset the clock on the house. Now she barely talks to me. So yeah, I don't know what to do. I love my wife, I love our baby. Heck, I even love the cat. But I also dreamed of handing her house keys this time next year all right.

Speaker 3: 43:54

I have to be honest, a very different perspective on this video.

Speaker 2: 43:59

Before the boat broke like a very different perspective oh my gosh you're so right you're the wife who wants 17 grand for the cat. That's you. That's you. Except you've probably already put about that much money into it already. Where's the cat's? Like a hundred bucks, okay, wait. I have a very different perspective on this video.

Speaker 3: 44:25

Now Listen to me the cat is going to last, maybe another year or two, but the boat is going to last many years.

Speaker 2: 44:35

It's going to be broken in another year. No, I'm going to fix it right, that's my point, really. I've known you for how many years. Three, four, your boat is broken all the time you go to the emergency, run once a year.

Speaker 3: 44:50

Let's talk about this woman and her cat. I don't want to talk about me and my boat.

Speaker 2: 44:52

You go to the emergency run once a year because you get hurt fixing your boat. That's not wrong. Let's talk about this psychopath and her cat. The only good thing your boat's ever done for the podcast was the one time your wife was on the channel no, listen.

Speaker 3: 45:12

Uh, all right the thing. All right, we'll talk about the boat on the other side. Let's talk about this crazy woman and her cat. Because of the dis, like, the disproportionate of, like obsession people have with their pets, this guy is saving his boats. I ruined this whole guy. I had so much to say about this.

Speaker 2: 45:33

I wouldn't have even made the connection until you said that.

Speaker 3: 45:38

I had so much to say about this.

Speaker 2: 45:46

Um, all right, right, but okay, you might be right on one thing. Yeah, it's, it's a lot easier to take your cattle back and put it down than it is to get rid of a broken boat like even selling a broken boat can be a pain. Where's that cat? That cat's easy to get rid of a broken boat Like even selling a broken boat can be a pain, whereas that cat that cat's easy to get rid of.

Speaker 3: 46:02

The thing actually is with the cat. It has to do with his wife's disordered affection for an animal first off, but he also hasn't bought his house yet. He's not like. You know what I mean. It's like the idea of a woman like, because a cat is going to die, like it's it, there's no investment there.

Speaker 2: 46:29

It's not like you save the cat and you can sell the cat and get that 70 grand back right and even if you save that cat's life like chemo and surgery, like that animal is suffering, and there is absolutely no good that comes from an animal suffering. They, you know, they, they, they don't have rational souls, their suffering doesn't attain any grace or anything like that.

Speaker 3: 46:52

So when an animal is is suffering unnecessarily, like that is a true, you know, a true evil, whereas, yeah, human suffering can attain good um I actually that's funny is I saw molly actually tweet something very similar to that and then she deleted it for some reason, I don't know why. Um, she did. She tweeted something very similar to what, very similar to what you just said, and then deleted it. I don't know why. But the there's, that's actually like a profound point. Right, like the the I. It'd be different if it was your child, right?

Speaker 3: 47:27

Yeah, you go into hock for your child to even get a few more months of life for your child, but what she, what that woman's actually doing, is not trying to relieve the cat suffering, is trying to relieve her own suffering because she can't get over the loss of her cat. It's a very selfish thing to do. Like the cat's going to be in torment For experiencing that, you know, like, like it's the cat. Imagine a cat going through chemo and then jaw surgery. Like the cat is going to be living a horrible like that it's. It is more merciful to perform euthanasia on an animal it's not the same thing as a human right like new york just passed this assisted suicide bill, which is disgusting and psychotic for a human, but for an animal it is actually more merciful to just put the animal out of its misery, because it's just going to cause suffering. There's absolutely no redemption in that suffering.

Speaker 3: 48:23

Yeah, 100%. And not just that. You think about all the hard work the husband put in. The husband has been working his ass off and he wants to go and buy a home for his family and she's giving him the silent treatment over this. Yeah, ladies, you're not doing anything to change my opinions. I'm just saying you know what? What's the girl? The hillbilly something. What's her Twitter name? She told a story. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:04

I forgot her full Twitter name, is it?

Speaker 3: 49:05

just the hillbilly Catholic, yes, hillbilly Catholic, or something. She told the story. She drove like an hour and a half to go to confession on Friday and she got there and there was a sign on the door that said the priests were all at retreat over the weekend and they're not going to be offering confession. And there was an old lady at the parish and she goes honey, where are you going? And she goes well, I came here for confession. She goes you drove a long way, didn't you? She goes yeah, I drove about an hour. She goes, you come with me. And she took the woman back to see the way.

Speaker 3: 49:36

And I was, like you restored my hope in women, because I have called that stupid parish to make an appointment for confession and been told he'll believe things is her name. I have been told by the woman at the parish that you need to come between four and five on Saturday. I'm like, well, I work on Saturdays and I'm not around between four and five and I need, I need absolution. Well, the priests are not going to be available for you except on Saturday for between four. I said, do me a favor, just put the priest on the phone, cause I would like to ask him myself, but you put the priest on the phone. The priest goes come down to the parish right now and I'll hear your confession, and it's like that's the typical woman running the parish. Yeah, um, and this wife. I would hope most of the women that watch our show would never put their family in jeopardy over an animal.

Speaker 2: 50:24

I don't think they would. Bobby here has an amazing point wherever there's animal worship, there's human sacrifice. That's interesting. I never heard that quote you have. You have women wanting to spend 17 grand to save a cat in a society that's literally working on trying to kill off old and sick people?

Speaker 3: 50:48

The cat meat helps you see in the dark.

Speaker 2: 50:52

Is that why the Nope Nope Can't say it, can't say it? Is that why the Viet Cong were so good in the tunnels in the jungle?

Speaker 3: 51:00

Caitlin says yeah, I don't have good experience with parish secretaries. They're awful typically. I mean not all the time, but typically.

Speaker 2: 51:07

I had a really. Well, it wasn't. I had a good experience, not necessarily with a parish secretary, but I sent an email to a parish I'd never been to ever last week and got a call from the priest today and had an hour long conversation with the priest. So that was. That was a surprise, Cause a lot of times you email a parish you don't hear back ever, let alone having a priest call you for an hour.

Speaker 3: 51:34

Um so uh. I told my wife I cause we have two cats, I'm allergic to both of them. I told because I played that clip for my wife and I just wanted to see her reaction. And she's like that's crazy. I go, I'm just letting you know right now we have two cats. If one of them gets sick, if it's over $250, I'm shooting the cat, or I would let it go in the south bronx and just let it enjoy its last few months of life in the wild, and it would be a stray like I would just.

Speaker 2: 52:07

it would just disappear is are your cats spayed or neutered?

Speaker 4: 52:11

yeah, okay, I was gonna say if they're not spayed or neutered.

Speaker 3: 52:14

Don't, don't just let you have to do that, even if they're their house. Cats like my cat, my cats never leave the house, yeah, but if you don't, you have no idea how disgusting it is that's what I thought too, like the wild you think the bronx isn't a jungle.

Speaker 3: 52:32

I promise you the south bronx is a jungle. My friend, the uh the the thing if you don't spay and like I have a male cat and a female cat. We got the female first and they're disgusting when they're in heat, like they're gross, they're moaning and oh it's disgusting. But we got the boy after that and I'm pretty sure the boy assaulted the girl before we before we neutered him.

Speaker 3: 53:04

He, uh, he didn't um attain consent no, and the, the, the female cat, is terrified of him till this day. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure, like when he was coming of age, he assaulted her and the two cats hate each other. Like nicole was hoping, the two cats would like be besties. They're not besties. The female hates the male and it is like they'll.

Speaker 2: 53:32

You will be sitting in bed sometimes and you'll just hear, and they'll just be going at it female hate hates the male because, uh, the male cat didn't want to spend $17,000 on the cat $17,000.

Speaker 3: 53:44

All right, so let's switch over to the final story before we head over to locals.

Speaker 2: 53:48

The cat got me dude. Yeah, Did you name the cat Diddy? The cat got me dude.

Speaker 3: 53:57

Yes, lucy is traumatized because Oliver, those are the cats, lucy and oliver. Um, all right, let's play. Let's play the last clip, please can it never mind?

Speaker 2: 54:10

uh, what was the?

Speaker 3: 54:11

the second one was it was the the, the airplane Mewtude. I got Mewtude. Yeah, the South Bronx is not a fun place to be kids, I'm just telling you, especially night shifts, night shifts in the.

Speaker 2: 54:39

South Bronx are always an adventure, so I'm clicking on that. One don't tell me this page doesn't exist no yeah no way yeah, see, if you see, if you can click on it oh no, what is going on?

Speaker 3: 54:57

no, paul, when he said oliver, I started doing the oliver twist.

Speaker 2: 54:59

Please, sir, can I have some? What is going on? No, paul, when he said Oliver, I started doing the Oliver twist. Please, sir, can I have some more? I don't know why I just do it anytime I hear the name Oliver.

Speaker 3: 55:10

Wasn't it my tweet, though. Go to my Twitter.

Speaker 2: 55:16

Yes, because finding things on your Twitter is.

Speaker 3: 55:18

Look up, no, what did I tweet? Yes, because finding things on your twitter is, uh, look up um um. No, what did I tweet?

Speaker 2: 55:24

it was was it before or after the dead bunny picture.

Speaker 3: 55:29

I think, oh no, I don't know it. You have to look up um search. Should the husband have left the wife?

Speaker 2: 55:39

that was what I tweet how many guys, how many tweets do you think we're gonna pull up on anthony's twitter? If I search, should the husband one, two, three, four, five, six, seven oh, did you find it? Did you find it? I'm I'm looking. Give me a second. It doesn't put them in date order. That's not good wait, uh, yeah, I found it, but the link it just shows the link of the link is inactive oh no, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3: 56:16

I just played it before. That is so annoying. That is so annoying, yeah.

Speaker 2: 56:23

Todd says my wife and I laughed so hard at ant thinking a rabbit was a mouse. I thought that was kind of funny too.

Speaker 3: 56:30

Wait a minute no, why did they delete that tweet?

Speaker 2: 56:34

it's almost like maybe we should not always rely on twitter.

Speaker 3: 56:40

I should have screen recorded that one that. Why would they delete that tweet? That is actually right before our show. They ruined the second clip of our show. All right, I have a jimmy aiken clip we could play.

Speaker 2: 56:54

Yeah, let's do that, let's do that?

Speaker 3: 56:56

do that on this side? Yeah, we'll do that on this side. And then I I mean, I did have a bunch of other articles we could go over. Let me see you want to do the german bishop bishop, all right, we'll leave it up to the chat. Should we do the jimmy aiken clip? German bishop resigns after citing inner fatigue of senado way. Uh, or traditional catholicism, the new cool for young americans? We can. If we do jimmy aiken, we kind of got to follow it up with the pentagon planted ufo myths everyone says aiken everyone says aiken.

Speaker 3: 57:27

All right, let's play the aiken clip yeah, so um.

Speaker 6: 57:38

so christian spirit communicating with especially the spirits of the dead has had a, and there are also later passages in the prophets that mock the use of mediums and so forth, and these texts were kind of picked up and incorporated into Christian warnings against communication with spirits without a lot of reflection. And that's especially true today when many people don't have a sense of the broad scope of either the biblical tradition or the Christian tradition. They just know these are certain passages and that just proves that Christians are not— that christians are, not I, so he's.

Speaker 2: 58:48

He's talking about, I mean, divination and almost like witchcraft and like necromancy and what. What religion is speaking, I don't know. I don't know what religion is he.

Speaker 3: 58:56

So his whole thing is aliens and like, what is he even doing? I don't get it. Like it's so crazy. You had you. You said something on twitter and the catholic answers twitter account so so catholic answers.

Speaker 2: 59:13

Tweeted something about how, um, we shouldn't cath, catholics shouldn't be so concerned with exorcism and spiritual warfare and things like that. So I quote tweeted that well, what about Catholic apologists being preoccupied with aliens and ghosts and divination and Bigfoot?

Speaker 3: 59:36

And he said why don't you just at Jimmy Akin, which is interesting, I almost wanted to say well why doesn't Trent Horn just at jimmy aiken, which is I always want to say, well, why?

Speaker 2: 59:42

why doesn't trent horn just add everyone he talks about?

Speaker 3: 59:45

but just the fact that you said those things he knew you were talking about jimmy aiken, it kind of proved my point right, which it actually does prove your point, and it's like what is his preoccupation with? These things is bizarre some. I saw somebody um tweeted a clip of him talking about if it would be immoral to to, uh, the conjugal act with an alien, like he was actually answering that, like it's bestiality, that he's like what? I don't know what's going on in nova sordo apologist world? I don't get it so like here's.

Speaker 2: 1:00:22

Here's the the catholic, the catechism of the catholic church, ccc 21, 16, so 2116. All forms of divination are to be rejected. Recourse to satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed, supposed to unveil the future, consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, phenomena of clairvoyance and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect and loving fear that we owe to god alone. So, to repeat, all forms of divination are to be rejected. Why is it? Jimmy aiken gets to directly contradict the ccc and have everyone be okay with it yet? But yet any trad says that the slightest thing about something that was maybe changed in the ccc in 2018 and we're called schismatic for that's actually a really good point, but it's because all that alien content got him a new boat and the jokes on us.

Speaker 3: 1:01:31

I was trying so hard not to laugh at that while you were reading because I don't want to throw, but even Loftin had that freaking. He had, like some Jewish Satanist on, really yeah, I saw Father Maudsley tweeting about it. And then Todd, I think I sent the article here. I thought I did. I guess not. Yeah, todd sent me an article. I thought I sent the article here. I thought I did. I guess not. Yeah, todd sent me an article. I thought I sent it here. Yeah, like, oh, here it is the making of a Mississippi shooter. Pull that making of a Mississippi shooter up. Okay, deuce shown on the grass as students made their way into pearl high school where they lingered in the commons, a large open area inside the school. Uh, maybe I should just read what what todd actually highlighted to me. Hang on, let me see that might be better I mean this is from 2021 yes, but this is the same guy that he had on.

Speaker 3: 1:02:38

So so Justin Sledgefellow Lofton did a video with as an occultist and was implicated in satanic school shootings in the 90s. Another childhood friend of Grant, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that Grant was Machiavellian and confessed that he was not surprised when it later came out that Grant dabbled in Satanism. Boyette, who had also been the victim of bullying, had a former group with other misfits who called themselves the Croft the name. Boyette told it. Like Lofton interviewed this guy. If you go to, let me see, maybe Maudsley's.

Speaker 2: 1:03:15

What was the point of the?

Speaker 3: 1:03:16

interview, though I'll tell you right now because I'll give you guys some context. Give me a sec, okay. Okay. So somebody said Novus, ordo Watch tweeted nothing to see here. Catholic apologist Michael Lofton seeks instruction from Dr Justin Sledge on the origins of Yahweh and Yahweh worship. Sledge is an adherent of Reconstructionist Judaism, whose YouTube channel, esoterica, produces content relating to topics such as alchemy, magic, kabbalah, mysticism, hermetic philosophy, theosophy, the occult and more, using the best academic scholarship available. Then Father Maudsley said this is theology from the toilet. Apart from all the diabolical insults aimed at God, the guest who is deeply in Kabbalah, says he's not convinced that Moses even existed. Faithless, empathetic catholics never, never, platform. Uh, jews, they subvert your mind and they cannot teach the truth until they convert to jesus christ. So it's just.

Speaker 2: 1:04:29

My point is what are these guys? Was it a debate or like?

Speaker 3: 1:04:38

I don't get it.

Speaker 2: 1:04:39

I I don't know what the point of what they're all doing that's, that's what I'm saying, like I don't understand so so Jimmy here was talking about divination on this show because he is going to a give a discussion on it at a so-called parapsychology conference coming up, parapsychology conference coming up, parapsychology being what you know nonsense basically.

Speaker 3: 1:05:07

Yeah what like what I understand, burnout right, like I think he might have gotten catholic apologetics burnout, jimmy or lofton or both jimmy aiken, I think jimmy aiken. What happened with him is he got apologetics burnout. So when you do what we're doing I've seen it happen with a lot of guys you get burnout right. I mean it happens to us sometimes, like most of the time, I'd rather be talking.

Speaker 2: 1:05:32

Yeah, there's you know I have other interests that I would often rather talk about, just because we talk about all this stuff all the time yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:05:40

So you kind of get burnout from talking about like whatever's. I mean, how many dude, like I watched, I saw, uh, I saw a um I don't know if it was an ascension clip or if it was uh saint paul center clip of dr john bergsma once talking about how scripture convinced him of Catholic, and it's like how many times can a Catholic convert tell their story before they get tired of telling their story? You know, like it's gotta get tedious at a certain point, which is which is why I'm glad our show does diversify topics and sometimes we could just get on and goof around about my boat and you know, like it's also why, when we have someone on the show, we try to have them talk about things that people usually don't hear them like father ripperger.

Speaker 3: 1:06:33

Yeah, we purposefully to our detriment, it turns out stayed away from talking about demons and exorcism when he was on our show yeah, because any other channel that just that talks to ripper, talks about exorcist, says this and they get hundreds of thousands of views 300 000 views.

Speaker 2: 1:06:50

All every single time, and we have every time. What is childhood?

Speaker 3: 1:06:54

and we got 20 yeah, we just wanted to have a conversation with father ripper and it's like, yeah, I didn't want to do what everybody else does with him and just talk to him about demons and stuff, because it's I don't, I don't want our show to ever be that. So it's like we got a more interesting conversation out of him in my opinion, but it's not going to get 300 000 views, it's just not going to. So. So I can understand Aiken getting the apologetics burnout, but man, what he chose to go down is kind of bizarre so.

Speaker 2: 1:07:28

Bobby's got a good point here. Bobby says he's descending into Gnosticism with the research he's doing for a show. He's entrenched in aliens and the weird theological questions that come up with things like that, and he's trying to instead of he's doing it the opposite way he should be. Instead of trying to take these topics and force them into the catholic framework we have for the universe, right, he's trying to force the catholic framework, the captain, he's trying to force catholicism into this framework he's built for himself this weird alien thing.

Speaker 3: 1:08:04

It's like I think he's just always had an interest in it same same thing with um steve skojak. Steve skojak has always had an interest in aliens. I don't know what happened, but skojak did the same thing. So, skojak, when he left the Catholic commentary sphere, he got into the same thing. He got into aliens and the weird stuff.

Speaker 3: 1:08:30

And it's like I don't know how to make those things fit. I don't, and I don't know how to make those. I, I, I don't know how to make those things fit. Like I don't and I don't want to, like I just kind of ignore it all. It's just, it's just stupid. I cannot wait until Jimmy Akin releases theology of the alien body. That's funny, all right. Well, we're going to wrap this one up. We're at an hour and eight. We're a little bit over. If you guys want to hear the actual number on my boat, I'll tell you on the other side, but then I'll also tell you guys what I'll just. Oh man, I never thought I would tell that story on air, but which one I'm going to, I never even told you.

Speaker 2: 1:09:21

Oh boy yeah, this is gonna be a good one guys. Yeah, go, yeah, this is some of the stories we've told on locals, and by we I mean you.

Speaker 3: 1:09:30

I'm still I think I might have told you when we were in steubenville a little bit of it, but I never, and it has has to do with St Joseph's saving me in a way, like like beyond anything I ever could have imagined, like about how you were gambling when one of your children was born. Oh. I can tell that story though.

Speaker 3: 1:09:58

He wasn't. No, it was his due date. I mean he wasn't born while I was there, it was was his due date. I mean he wasn't born while I was there, it was just his due date. Uh, all right, yes, we're definitely hurting for locals, buddy. All right, come on over to locals, guys, we'll, we'll get, we'll get into some stuff over there okay, give me a second.

Speaker 2: 1:10:12

Uh, I'll post the actual link in the chat right now. Give me a second, guys, and then I'll cut, and then I'll cut the stream here. Okay, so I'm pinning the link in the chat.

Speaker 3: 1:10:29

And I want to play that Dave Bortnoy song I haven't heard it Is there swearing. It's got like one or two swears in it, but it is so catchy, oh no, it's better than Kanye's latest latest in my opinion, okay uh, I'm gonna cut facebook.

Speaker 2: 1:10:47

Oh, I have to. I have to bring up locals.

Speaker 3: 1:10:49

We're cutting twitter let me get I gotta pull up locals.

Speaker 2: 1:10:58

We're cutting Rumble and cutting.

Speaker 3: 1:11:09

YouTube. All right, let me get into locals here, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:11:23

Before you start any crazy stories, give me a warning so I can make it private. Only on locals, locals. I like to give everyone a minute to come over.

Speaker 3: 1:11:27

If they haven't joined yet before I, okay, so private. Um, we can play that song before I get into my personal stories. Um, let me join the stream here. All right, guys, I need to know in the chat are you guys okay with a little bit of profanity, like a little bit? It might be. It might be a curse or two in the song, but holy cow, is it catchy okay, so one anyone with kids watching, just have them leave the room until the song's over.

Speaker 3: 1:11:55

Yeah, it's not safe for work this song. So if you guys have kids, I want to believe Margo says no. But we don't care what Margo says. It's not like it's full of curses, it's just English is profanityity. Margo's scared.

Speaker 2: 1:12:23

As long as no he's okay with it, as long as it's tim gordon saying the profanity I don't think there's.

Speaker 3: 1:12:30

Uh, I don't think. I don't think the lord's name is taken in maine. I don't think so I would have noticed that. But yeah, okay, we're ready for it. Yeah, you can skip, like, because dave portnoy curses right at the beginning. So if you skip ahead, it's dave portnoy losing his mind because you can't. I, you know what you got to play the beginning. Just play it. If you guys don't like it, just tune out for a second. We're giving you plenty of warning. If you don't like it, just tune out. Don't tell me to shut up. Don Shut the fuck up, you both. Oh man Wow, Wow, wow.

Speaker 3: 1:13:03

And all right, a little skip ahead, got a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more there's only a couple of them.

Speaker 2: 1:13:12

No, it's just a point in the beginning this song, the song.

Speaker 3: 1:13:16

This song might have one or two. You're literally saying people should be allowed to make jewish jokes. So dave portnoy has been known to make the most heinous jokes about rape and horrible things. So he flipped out that somebody thought it was appropriate to make Jewish jokes and he said how many Jewish people need to die before you realize you can't make Jewish jokes?

Speaker 5: 1:13:46

A few more. Apparently, you can talk about Indians with their babies laughing at whatever the fuck that you wanna. Only one thing is sacred, that's Davey. Don't talk about Jews now. Don't talk about Jews. Hey, don't talk about Jews. Don't talk about Jews. Don't talk about Dave. You can laugh about blacks, you can laugh about gays, you can laugh about immigrants in them cages. Talk about anything on this earth, but if it's about Jews, then you might as well save it, bitch. Don't talk about jews.

Speaker 3: 1:14:22

Hey, don't talk about jews, don't talk about jews, don't talk about jews, don't talk about david, you guys. Okay, that's funny 77 jokes, 77 times seven.

Speaker 2: 1:14:35

Thomas Beckett says there was no more than 170,000 jokes.

Speaker 3: 1:14:40

No, definitely not, Definitely. Six million jokes is the limit, six million jokes.

Speaker 2: 1:14:46

Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:14:47

Okay, I'm going to. Let's hope Deacon Jim isn't listening All right, let's get off this topic.

Speaker 2: 1:14:52

Hold on. Let's switch it to supporters, only supporters, only supporters only. We got a minute until it takes effect, but um, yeah, the boat. Let's see our guesses hold on how much, um how much did you pay for the boat originally?

Speaker 3: 1:15:16

Originally. So if I had bought it brand new, the boat brand new would have been $80,000. I did not buy it brand new, I bought it used and I got it for $40,000.

Speaker 2: 1:15:28

Okay, what's the problem? The motor's blown $15,000. Okay, what's the problem? The motor's blown 15,000.

Speaker 3: 1:15:37

Let's see what everybody else thinks.

Speaker 2: 1:15:41

Their guesses are crazy. So it's just 14,000. Check those missed the case. This is 25K, we got 24K. We got 10K, 20k, 60k.

Speaker 3: 1:15:51

Price is right, rules what? What is it if you go over? You lose yeah, closest, without going over okay, 20k, so now hear me out, hear me out oh no if I don't fix it, the boat is worthless.

Speaker 3: 1:16:14

Worthless, yep the boat brand worth 40, the boat brand new, like I bought it used and it had hundreds of hours on. I am putting a. I'm not putting a rebuilt motor, but brand new motor. The boat will have a brand new motor. My boat itself is in spectacular condition. I've taken very much well care of it. If I put the 20 and the boat's back up to worth around 40, 45. I either lose everything or I put 20 in, maybe use it for a season or two it's got a five-year warranty on the motor and try to sell it.

Speaker 2: 1:16:52

I haven't made the decision yet, it's just I'll tell you one thing that stupid cat wouldn't be worth 40k after putting 17 in it.

Speaker 3: 1:17:01

That's my point, but also I need a boat. Like I, I have to have a boat. I mean, I don't have to, but I need a boat. Here's the thing. I almost was gonna say yeah need uh-huh, no, you don't.

Speaker 2: 1:17:09

No, I don't have to, but I need a boat. Here's the thing I almost was going to say yeah, need Uh-huh. No, you don't. No, I don't need it. Actually, you're like, for your situation living on a long Island and the sort of instability we have in this country right now, I kind of need a boat. You kind of need a boat, dude the thing is it's your way off that Island. If Dude the thing is, it's your way off that island.

Speaker 3: 1:17:31

If stuff goes downhill, it's more than that, it's the family memories I've had with the boat. Like you, could not put a price tag on it.

Speaker 2: 1:17:44

And it's just one of those things where it's just 40 plus 20 is 60,000. That's a pretty significant price tag.

Speaker 3: 1:17:49

Yeah, the boat's paid off Like it's paid off. I don't know anything on it, but it's either worthless or I put 20k in, use it for a year or two and then I could sell it for more than like I'm not. I won't lose the 20 if I sell the boat in a year or two, but if I do just well, it's worthless. Then I have to go buy a new boat. I'd have to go spend 40 or 50 years.

Speaker 3: 1:18:13

I know I don't have to, I know I don't have to, but if I wanted to like, it would like to. You can't get a decent boat for 20, 20 grand, right like you can't well.

Speaker 2: 1:18:22

So I'm kind of in that position where it's not the kind of boat you want, no, no, and the and the thing is my boat's kind of perfect for what I like to do.

Speaker 3: 1:18:34

So look, I haven't made the decision yet. It's just a big, big sum of money and it's like oh, that's a lot of flipping memories.

Speaker 3: 1:18:46

Yeah, it's a lot. So the story I'll tell is, um, the one I haven't heard. Well, yeah, so 2020, when 2020 came around, so 2019, I made more money than I had ever made. Yep, 2020 came around and I lost like a third of my income in 2020 and I fell behind on my mortgage in 2020 because, like you, you're, when you're making money like that, like you, just you you think the trajectory is going to remain the same, and I fell behind on my mortgage and, like I, took a deferment on it. I can't believe I'm telling this story I've heard.

Speaker 3: 1:19:30

I've heard, like at least up to this point, some of it yeah but I fell behind on my mortgage severely, um so, but but by 2021 we started this channel, work started picking back up and I started getting myself back together and not just back together, but doing better than I than I was like, and saving every dollar. But the mortgage company wouldn't like I had fallen too far behind. The mortgage company would not take the money. Really, they were like, yeah, they wouldn't allow me to put it on the back of my loan. Nothing, and I'm like me and nicole were in limbo on this house for three or four years where I was saving every dollar Like I had the money to, but like I would have had to have all the money I was behind in 2020. Like I it's not like I fell behind five years, like I fallen behind a year and then things got fixed and I was saving my like.

Speaker 3: 1:20:29

Dude, I was in a position where, like, they put my house in foreclosure and I'm like I, like, what do I?

Speaker 3: 1:20:37

But I was in that bad of shape and we never I never asked anybody for anything. I literally just started praying Novena's to St Joseph and everything. Like they wound up like like switching my mortgage to another service lender or whatever, and they just accepted my like, they took like they, they allowed me to put that money at the back of the loan and all the money I had saved. Like I didn't have to put nearly as much as I thought I was going to have to down, like it just like I was going to have to down. I was so dependent on St Joseph I really thought we were going to. There was a time where me and Nicole considered should we just sell the house and take our equity and move to Pennsylvania? There were so many things happening and St Joseph. I literally attribute my saving my house to St Joseph. It was just such a stressful time, like those years in limbo where I didn't know what was happening with the house.

Speaker 2: 1:21:38

But the point was basically that, as bad as it was, I never Is Giuseppe Italian for Joseph Giuseppe. Yeah, wow, I did not know that. Yeah, Giuseppe, of course.

Speaker 3: 1:21:48

You.

Speaker 2: 1:21:49

Italians have the stupidest language in the world yeah, just that.

Speaker 3: 1:21:55

Of course you italians have the stupidest language in the world, um, but it just um. It was just the, the whole point. I'm not like trying to whatever. I'm, I'm just saying like rob and I have both had like major financial things happen and never come to you guys and said, can we have a handout? Like it's just not something I would. I would never do that unless someone was dying, someone was sick or something. You know like that's the not something I would. I would never do that unless someone was dying, someone was sick or something. You know like that's the only time I think I would ever like do that.

Speaker 3: 1:22:18

Like even this thing with the boats, like it sucks, but like you know, we'll figure it out, you know like, but what's crazy is I'm I don't, I'm not gonna suck it into my financial situation. It's just I, I could I have the money to pay for the boat if I needed to. It's just that's a big freaking nut to crack. It's crazy big. Um, yeah, yeah, I still would never ask you. I would never ask you guys for money to fix my boat. Like, just like rob when, when his car went and like everyone was like, oh, we'll help you with the guy. It's like no, we're S, we're saving that, we're saving that Like I, rob and I made a deal. It's like if something ever happens to Rob.

Speaker 2: 1:23:12

I am raising a million dollars for literally the. I will make sure hope never has to worry, as long as the thing that happens to me is me dying and she gets life insurance, she'll be fine.

Speaker 3: 1:23:17

I get it. It doesn't matter you want her to have a boat. You know, darn it. I would never. I would never, um, I would never not do everything I could to make sure hope was okay. Like that's just. I just would do everything I could to make sure hope was okay. Like that's just. I just would do everything I could to help help hope.

Speaker 2: 1:23:38

Let's crowdfund a 90 foot boat. How about let's crowdfund whatever Nicole needs to fix up the house?

Speaker 3: 1:23:46

That's where the arguments come in, because yeah, I bet she wants a new walkway, she wants a new the. She wants to do that and I'm like Nope, nope, nope, we don't need first of the things that she wants that like I could do myself. It's just about like getting the time to do it and and I'm not going to pay some contractor to come in and overcharge me like crazy, cause long Island like to come in and overcharge me like crazy because, long island like I got a price on the walkway and it was 19 grand for, like, the walkway and the driveway, something I needed done at the.

Speaker 3: 1:24:20

I needed an apron.

Speaker 2: 1:24:21

You're like what are you? A flipping italian pavement work? I would do the paving.

Speaker 3: 1:24:27

I could do the paving portion but I didn't want to do. I wanted to have, like a guy come in and do the brick work for the, for the, the walkway and the apron of the driveway, and the guy told me 19 grand. I was like, yeah, I'll see you later. That's not happening.

Speaker 2: 1:24:39

It's just not like I don't when nicole brings it up, do you ask her well, why haven't you started a podcast on locals yet?

Speaker 3: 1:24:45

exactly like you better start taking pictures, honey. I don't know what to tell you. We're not getting that done. No, it's just uh. Money sucks, dude, it just sucks yeah, we have.

Speaker 2: 1:24:58

Um, we uh me, and hope came to a compromise on uh on our guns. You're allowed to buy yes, anytime I get a new gun, she gets to spend uh an approximately equal amount of money on um aquariums and fish tanks oh my gosh, you gotta figure double. Yeah, whatever you want to buy, you gotta figure the price is double, or figure out a good way to make her believe that what I bought was worth half of what it was it is tricky everyone, every someone, uh, someone remembers the man on the street.

Speaker 2: 1:25:38

Uh, bitch. Someone says everyone should boycott until we get the man on the street content.

Speaker 3: 1:25:42

I don't blame you guys for that, but I did. It's not like I didn't buy the stock, I did buy the equipment, it's just completely unused. I just haven't done it yet, anthony opened an only fan account with just pics of your boat no, but what I saw the call was, I said, look, we're gonna fix the boat, and then I think I'm gonna start doing camping videos I've, I've, I've really tried with my kids.

Speaker 2: 1:26:08

Right, like to take, take videos of them camping, of us going on hikes and eating stupid mres and tricky those. Uh, a four and a six-year-old boy running around the woods yelling at each other, beating each other with sticks, crying it's like I'm gonna get 10 seconds of arable yeah, out of this.

Speaker 3: 1:26:27

so the thing, okay, so the thing about my boat specifically is it's not a boat you should sleep on, it's a bow rider, right? So I'll send you a picture of my boat. I'll send you a picture of what my boat actually looks like. Let me see.

Speaker 2: 1:26:44

People have actually sent pictures of you on your boat in the chat, so the pictures are out there already.

Speaker 3: 1:26:50

Let me see.

Speaker 2: 1:26:57

Hold on boat in the chat. So the pictures are out there already. Wait, hold on. Oh my bobby. That's genius. Bobby says at the gun show. Near him there's a booth. You give them five dollars and they'll make a receipt for what you told your wife you paid for that gun. That's lying I really don't do that that was.

Speaker 3: 1:27:11

It's not just that, rob. Do you know how tempting it was to like the boat's worthless without like, because the motor is blown right, but I've been paying insurance for all these years. Like, the temptation is there to pull the plug and sink the boat. Yeah, but it's insurance fraud. Yeah, you just can't do it, but it's insurance fraud. Yeah, you just can't do it like it's. But it's like, what the hell do you pay insurance for? But they don't cover mechanical stuff.

Speaker 3: 1:27:37

But like, the temptation is it's like, dude, you go out on the boat and you pull the boat, oh shit, the boat sunk. You know, look at that. But it's like, no, what kind of what? Like, how do you face god? Like, and and to even do something like that? You're.

Speaker 3: 1:27:49

Then it's oh, oh, I could just go to commit. No, that is like presumption of god's mercy. Like, no, that is like the most horrific mortal sin. So, no, you can't do it, even though you could justify it in your head and say, well, I've been paying and shit, like, believe me, this like, I had to wrestle with this, like this was because it was, you know, oh crap, I launched the boat without the, without the plugin, and it sunk. Oh no, you know, like this thing is that that goes, the temptation goes through your mind. Don't think it doesn't like oh, how can I, how can I, how can I make this look like it was an accident? But you just can't do it Like you have. You have to have like we're either. We're either catholic and we believe this stuff or we don't. It's just, it's what it comes down to um.

Speaker 3: 1:28:38

I want to find a picture of, uh, the camping setup. Let me see if I can find it okay, here we go. Oh, this is perfect. Okay, I'm going to send this one to the. Oh, no, that's going to post it. Can I just text?

Speaker 2: 1:29:12

it to you.

Speaker 3: 1:29:12

Uh, yeah, actually you can let me just text it to you, because this actually shows how we have it set up I'm just hoping, when I share my screen, I won't share our whole text message conversation oh yeah, that would be bad. Well, you could send it. Well, I could send it from hold.

Speaker 2: 1:29:30

I think I can do it.

Speaker 3: 1:29:37

I might have it in favorites. Let me see, maybe I could just favorite it. Oh, let's see here. Sorry guys, dead air.

Speaker 3: 1:30:10

This is what you get from locals. I just want to make sure you guys can see what I'm talking about here. I got it, okay. So this is the setup me and Nicole go out with right. So that's the back seat laid down into a bed, okay, so do you see how that seat on the left there is turned towards me, like it's facing us, like? So you see the seat, that's the bed, but then that seat facing us, I have another cushion that goes there so that you can, like Nicole will lay on the bed part. I give her the bed and I lay on the seat and I put a cushion that matches the same level as the bed. So I lay long ways and she lays on the seat and I put a cushion that matches the same level as the bed. So I lay long ways and she lays on the bed and that tent part comes over the whole thing.

Speaker 3: 1:30:56

So I bought a camper top for it. It's got a sink on the right, right there, and then behind the, behind the seat that's facing us, is a bathroom. So there's a. That closet is actually a little like a little mini camper bathroom. So you have a toilet and then the front of the boat is open, right, so it's. It's not meant to be slept on.

Speaker 3: 1:31:15

I just bought a camper top so that we can, and then when we go to watch hill, they, they give you an area behind the boat where you can set up a picnic table and we bring all our cooking stuff. Yep, and I've. I've found that, like the videos on youtube that do well are the videos where people are set up and things that shouldn't be camped in you know like, and I would, and I would go with just me and nicole and set it up and people like seeing you cook stupid food, and so, whatever, I'm gonna try it. If it works, I'll do it on my personal youtube channel. We'll see what happens. If it works. It works and maybe I can offset some of the costs of fixing the boat. We'll see.

Speaker 2: 1:31:58

Oh man.

Speaker 3: 1:31:58

Why would it have a bed? You're not supposed to sleep? So that's for laying out in the sun. So that lifts up into a seat. So that seat is actually. Let me see if I can find it with the seat up yeah, sorry guys, whatever, I don't know, I don't think you guys care that much.

Speaker 3: 1:32:26

Whatever it would be, it would be, um, it would just I. I think I could make the videos interesting. It's just they're not easy to film Like I've seen a lot of people butcher those videos Like people want to be told like every little step of the way and stuff. It's like it's I don't know, the Outdoor Boys is really the king of it. Yeah, were, yeah, I'm so sad they're gone All right.

Speaker 3: 1:32:57

So let's do literally the day they stopped. It's so sick. I've watched so many of their videos at this point. All right, let's do.

Speaker 3: 1:33:01

German bishops resign citing inner fatigue, sonata way, doubts. Uh, a german bishop resigned five years before the typical retirement age sunday, citing inner fatigue and expressing doubts that the country's sonata way will lead to true renewal. These Germans are so gross. Bishop Gregor Maria Honk, 70, stood down as the Bishop of Bavaria, southern Germany. Isn't that where Benedict was from, bavaria? Yes, that's where most German Catholics are from. So those are the same bishops that probably snubbed him when he went to Germany. Honk was one of the four German diocesan bishops to criticize the country's controversial synodal way, which called for sweeping changes to Catholic teaching and practice, and to reject plans to establish a national synodal body with extensive powers over the church in Germany.

Speaker 3: 1:33:49

Honk, a Benedictine monk who has led the diocese with 350,000 Catholics since 06, told the employees of his decision to resign had a long history. I am now in my 19th year as bishop and, in terms of years of service, rank third amongst the diocesan bishops of German's Bishop Conference, who became the nation's youngest bishop when he was appointed, at the age of 52. So that means benedict appointed him right 18 years ago. 18 years ago, uh yeah. However, I do not want to hide the fact that after many challenges, scandals and unresolved conflicts, which were not lacking during my time as bishop, I felt felt an inner fatigue. He's got burnout. Like Jimmy Akin, who took a break from his duties due to surgery in 24, noted the crisis during his tenure included a dispute over his decision to block the appointment of a president at the Catholic University, a financial scandal that caused enormous reputational damage in our diocese and clerical abuse cases. He said he had also been deeply concerned in recent years about the question of the spiritual fruitfulness of the church in our country.

Speaker 3: 1:34:58

The Catholic church in Germany is well organized with the structures and committees and has many competent. I'm trying to figure out if his fatigue is because he wants more changes that aren't coming or that he's stressed because they're trying to change things. Social structure continues to prove influential despite the decline in the number of believers. It is a significant social player. Given the upheaval of and the decline, we are necessarily developing pastoral programs and concepts for the future. But to what extent is our system of the church in Germany proving spiritually fruitful so that it promotes a new beginning rooted in our system of the church in germany, proving spiritually fruitful, so that it promotes a new beginning rooted in the power of the lived gospel and serves the sanctification of the world. See, this is like it's german speak, so you don't know what he means I mean to be fair.

Speaker 2: 1:35:43

I don't think. I don't think any of the bad bishops care an ounce about sanctification of the world, so even just using that phrase makes me think he might be a Benedict guy. Well, maybe not, I don't know.

Speaker 3: 1:36:03

The Pope provided inspiration for a spiritual path that he advised our church in Germany to take, rather than one that revolves around itself. According to Francis, renewal means living from the freshness of the gospel. He spoke of the bite of the gospel which must be felt and the primacy of evangelization.

Speaker 2: 1:36:22

Oh, why do these people speak this way?

Speaker 3: 1:36:24

It's so annoying, Like you don't know if he's, you can't even tell by what he's saying which begins with evangelizing oneself so that the new life and the genuine spirit inspired by the gospel can be effective. Honk suggested that Pope Francis' letter captured the true heartbeat of the church. He's a Francis guy, Never mind he can't be a good guy.

Speaker 3: 1:36:45

He encountered the priests and lay people of his diocese, being close to the people as a pastor, talking to them about the questions of faith and life, preparing young people to receive the sacraments and offering spiritual guidance. This is what I would like to achieve in the remaining and, I hope, vigorous years of my life as Father Gregor in the second row in a pastoral area outside. So he doesn't want to be bishop anymore.

Speaker 2: 1:37:09

I don't think that doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3: 1:37:14

He added without prejudice to my Episcopal ordination, I no longer wish to wear the pontificals, the insignia, nor perform any pontifical functions, unless my successor occasionally requires support in this ministry. Otherwise, I see my place in the coming years in the pastoral ministry as Father Gregor. He sounds like he's not a revolutionary. I see my place in the coming years in the pastoral ministry as father Gregor he's. He sounds like he's not a revolutionary. He just wants to take a step back and be a priest.

Speaker 3: 1:37:38

I don't know, I don't know, I never said, you never said yes, then man, you think about the guys that do say yes to to being a Bishop Like?

Speaker 2: 1:37:48

does he say what? On average, a third of the priests say no was that just on the? Francis, though, or was that? I think I, I, I don't know the specifics, but I think it's like a third of the. The priests in the us asked to become bishops say no I would say no, I would never want that responsibility.

Speaker 3: 1:38:11

Yeah, mrs Casey said well, if popes can retire, I know I mean a bishop actually can retire, well, retire right, they can retire, but they're still a bishop.

Speaker 2: 1:38:25

Like it just says, a priest is always a priest. A bishop is always a bishop Because it is the fullness of holy orders.

Speaker 3: 1:38:36

Majorian said he'd say yes, I just wouldn't. I don't know. Well, being a bishop in this day and age would be really like. I feel like I don't know. I don't know if things are going to change in the leo, but on the francis, I wouldn't have wanted it, that's for sure. You know, it's like under francis. No way would I have taken that position. Maybe on the leo things are going to change. I don't know what's going to happen with leo. Um, and then we'll end with.

Speaker 3: 1:39:10

Traditional Catholicism is cool. The incense is rising again, not just in Gothic cathedrals or Latin mass enclaves, but in the hearts of young Americans who, against every cultural current, are swimming upstream towards Catholicism. It's a phenomenon that baffles secular elites and liberal Protestants alike. Upstream towards catholicism. It's a phenomenon that baffles secular elites and liberal protestants alike. How, in this age of deconstruction and digital nihilism, could the church of hierarchy, ritual and confession be considered, of all things, cool? Yet it is, quietly, steadily, and then suddenly the latin mass is trending, catechisms are booked, young adults are quoting aquinas in the same breath as camas. Who's camo? Who's camo? That's terrible. Author. Oh, it's not ironic, it's not aesthetic, it's not cosplay.

Speaker 3: 1:39:56

It's a revolt against rootlessness oh, that's your business team, then it's cosplay because we look, because what looks like religious revival is also cultural rebellion. That's, I agree with that a hundred percent. I just think the culture is feeding people such rot that, like the ancient faith, does hold appeal. Because what looks like religious revival is also cultural rebellion. We were told the future would be limitless, utterly empowering, powering. We were told we'd be happiest with fewer rules, fewer roles, fewer traditions, just vibes. But the experiment failed.

Speaker 3: 1:40:32

We're lonely or sicker, spiritually starved In a place of meaning. We got algorithms In place of meaning. We got algorithms In place of transcendence. We got TikTok therapy and beneath the saccharine haze of self-care, many young people feel the gnawing presence of something missing. I wish the hierarchy would recognize this. I really hope that Leo does. Catholicism offers what the modern world cannot Structure, discipline, mystery, not the Novus Ordo. That's the same thing with that what-to-wear-to-mass thing I was saying earlier, the debate about oh, don't wear shorts and sandals to the Novus Ordo. It's like the couple of times I've gone to the Novus Ordo in the past couple of years. Like we dress down, I don't wear what I would wear to a Latin mass at a Novus Ordo just because the liturgy inherently is less mysterious and transcendent. It's just you, you stand out. When you go. If you're wearing really nice clothes to a nova sordo, people kind of look at you like what?

Speaker 3: 1:41:41

and then, honestly, if you wear khaki, khakis and a polo, you stand out and then you're on top of that kneeling for communion, kneeling and receiving on the tongue like people think it's crazy because they'll accuse you of Of like spectacle when you do that right, like it's. It's this weird inversion where, what? When I have gone to a Novus Ordo, it's like it takes everything in me to just go and kneel and receive communion Cause you don't want everybody looking at you. So it's kind of like you got to swallow your pride and go do it and they'll accuse you of being prideful. It's the weirdest thing. They'll say you're doing it out of pride, when really you're like oh, I don't like, I have no desire to be the spectacle right now. I just want to go and receive Christ respectfully and reverently. So you go and you kneel and you receive on the tongue and people look at you like you're being prideful. I hate that about that.

Speaker 3: 1:42:41

To be Catholic is to live inside a story a 2000 year old, blood soaked, gold threaded world shaping story. It has martyrs and miracles, saints and scoundrels, architecture that makes you weep. A God who became man. A carpenter who suffered for your sins. A virgin mother crowned in heaven. Try fitting that into a 15 second Instagram reel. This is a pretty good article. For young Americans raised on Marvel movies and deconstructionist memes, the sheer audacity of Catholicism is intoxicating. It doesn't hedge its bets or dilute its claims.

Speaker 3: 1:43:13

It says this is the body, this is the blood, this is the truth it currently does quite actually dilute its claims all the time, but it's it's sad that, like they, they have everything they need to convert the world and they downplay it all, like the very things that would spark a fire in young men's heart.

Speaker 2: 1:43:36

They downplay because this article is kind of frustrating because, like like you say quite often, it's arguing for a church that doesn't actually exist currently. Right, and that's one thing that frustrates me about young converts and pope-splainers the church you guys argue for currently does not exist, and I'm not saying we, you know, I understand they're trying to make it exist, but let's be honest with ourselves and let's be honest with everyone else. It doesn't currently exist. The church does dilute itself. The church currently does not have mystery. It does not have, you know, any architecture made in the last hundred years blows like.

Speaker 3: 1:44:23

Let's not kid ourselves, let's be honest here so I do like this you don't walk into a traditional catholic mass because they're talking about the traditional faith here. So you don't walk into a traditional Catholic mass because they're talking about the traditional faith here.

Speaker 3: 1:44:34

So you don't walk into a traditional Catholic mass and feel like you've stumbled into a self-help seminar with hymns. You feel the weight of two millennia settle into your shoulders. There are no mood boards, no fog machines, no pastors in skinny jeans offering life hacks. There is only the priest, the altar, the sacrifice and the silence, a silence that, for many, is more honest than any sermon man. Me and Nicole were talking about one of the hymns they used to sing at St Paso Nova Sordo, near me, and it was Ale ale, aleluia, alleluia. And it's the stupid, glory, glory, alleluia.

Speaker 3: 1:45:23

Like they sing the Our Father at that parish.

Speaker 2: 1:45:30

It's so bad, it's so bad, it's just so bad. The uh the local parishes here do the uh.

Speaker 3: 1:45:37

My little pony gloria that's stupid, will stick in my head for days on end, even when I haven't gone there. It's so bad. That's why I used to wake my kids up on sunday morning singing the aspergers. May like? I wanted them to have that stuck in their head so they'd be sleeping and I'd just be walking around the house singing the aspergers. Yeah, the battle hem of the republic. That's it. Um, which is mormon, isn't it? Probably? It's definitely protestant, that's for sure. And then there's the internet. Ironically, the same technology that helps secular secularism colonize the culture is now helping catholicism fight back. The same platforms that once reduced truth to trend are now hosting long-form debates about the council of nicaea and marion dogma. Youtube debates, sub stack essays, the tradcast. Social media accounts are turning old school apologetics into viral content. The memes are sharp, the arguments are airtight. What began as curiosity, what even is the latin mass, has become conviction, conversion and catechesis. These aren't just content creators, they're apostles with wi-fi. Whoa, I'm an apostle in life, my guys, no, no.

Speaker 3: 1:46:50

As soon as I saw that I'm like oh no, or not with the ring lights, but with church fathers and footnotes and their winning souls in foretell.

Speaker 2: 1:46:58

Okay that came out of AI. That is exactly what AI sounds like. That is AI. A human did not write that part.

Speaker 3: 1:47:08

Their message is clear the church is an anti-intellectual, invented intellectual tradition, a canonized reason long before modernity tried to sterilize it. And for a generation raised to believe in science but yearning for metaphysics, catholicism feels like a missing link mind and soul in harmony. But don't mistake this for mere philosophical exercise. Something deeper is stirring In a culture obsessed with identity. Catholicism offers identity through surrender, not the curated, performative kind, but a cruciform kind, dying to self to live in Christ. It's everything the modern self recoils at, which is precisely why it's so powerful. It's so powerful, yeah, I think, um, I think I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 3: 1:47:59

Like a lot of the younger guys do it like look the, the guys that watch our show are pretty harsh on franco because it's pretty bad.

Speaker 3: 1:48:07

But like I do like what christian wagner is doing, I really do like I think, like he did a nine hour documentary on why history proves catholicism, it's like I mean, I'm not going to sit through nine hours, but that he's putting things like that together and he's, you know, he's definitely not doing what we're doing, what we're making catholicism cool.

Speaker 3: 1:48:30

He's kind of bringing the intellectual side and I think that it's good that, that that this whole arena is happening. You know it's not. It's. It's very different from the generation before us. The scott hans, the jeff cavins, those guys they were presenting something a little bit different than we are, where I think we're a little bit more um, realistic about like the realities of living the faith out. Then those guys are like I I those guys were great at teaching the um, like the, the theology and the biblical tradition and things like that. But I think what you and I do, I think, is just show more of what that stuff looks like when lived in practice as a father and just a guy going to work every day, because we're not PhDs and things like that.

Speaker 2: 1:49:26

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 3: 1:49:30

Wagner ironically gaslighting people into thinking the nova sordo's base is gay. I don't think he. I like he goes. He goes to a um, ordinary, an ordinary, you know. So it's like, yeah, I think he's just trying to make sure that people don't think the Novus Ordo is invalid. I know, wagner, I know he would think it's just as cringe some of the things that you see at your typical parish Like, it's, it's just, you know it is. He admitted it on our show. I don't remember. Sam shaboon reminds me my mother is probably a whore. Yeah, I don't know what happened with them. They, uh, they had a falling out. Uh, yeah, I know, I don't know, rob, you've gotten to a point where you won't. You won't go to the Nova Sordo anymore, right? Um, like it, extenuating circumstances maybe.

Speaker 2: 1:50:36

Yeah, I would go to a wedding or a funeral. You know, baptism, something like that. I don't know the Sordo myself, but, um, yeah, uh, I'm. My kids will not go to the Nova Sordo.

Speaker 3: 1:50:54

I went to a society chapel sunday. Um, I, I just can't go to the nova sordo and I wasn't. I wasn't able to drive the like it's I have. I have a byzantine divine liturgy 10 minutes from me I've never gone to. I have the sspx is 10 minutes from me. I will go there occasionally. And then I have my real parishes that I go to. One is 25 minutes away but they only have it every other Sunday and then the far one is like an hour away. It's just a lot. Sometimes. You just said we drove two hours each way to go to. Sometimes you're just like oof, I wish there was something closer and the society is 10 minutes away and I'm going to go.

Speaker 2: 1:51:31

I wish there was something closer and the society's 10 minutes away and I'm going to go. Yeah, unfortunately, the society is four hours away from me.

Speaker 3: 1:51:42

Yeah, we have a diocesan TLM two hours away. It's so annoying how far they make us travel for good liturgy. Most often I'm at a diocesan TLM. There are two diocesan TLMs. I bounce between and then I used to go to the Novus Ordo If I couldn't make those. I'll no longer do that. So now if I can't make it to one of those, I'll go to the society, and the society parish is beautiful, the people there are awesome. It's just a Catholic parish, it's a chapel, but the homily this week was Father Salzen praying for Pope Leo, not Pope Francis, pope Leo, just praying for Pope Leo and praying that he has the strength to do what needs to be done.

Speaker 2: 1:52:32

And you know it's funny, the most schismatic sermons I've ever heard were at conservative Novus Ordo parishes.

Speaker 3: 1:52:42

The worst liturgies I've seen are at conservative Novus Ordo parishes. Because it's bizarre, it's boomer conservatism, so like you'll get a good homily but the liturgy is just horrific, like girl altar, boys and singing the our father and things like they're just atrocious because they're just wrapped up in that mindset but they're, the homilies are good. It's just, you know, like that's the only nova sordo parish I've ever heard homilies on pornography and abortion. But the abortion thing is just republican talking point. So it's like, you know, it's just, it's just a, it's just a republican, boomer parish, you know yeah, you probably wouldn't hear a sermon there against ivf, for instance.

Speaker 3: 1:53:31

No, or even even birth control. But you'll, you'll, you'll hear it against. But I did hear, like I said, I did hear one about pornography, which you rarely hear from priests even trad parishes like that it's. It's one thing that I really think priests need to talk more about. It's an uncomfortable conversation, especially when there's young kids there, but there's got to be ways for them to have those conversations, because I think it's the one thing plaguing our society. That it's. It's like young men need help with that bad. Yeah, it's like a bishop baron parish, um, uh, our nova sordo is pretty decent, except the female electors and extraordinary ministers. Yeah, that that's. That's a hard thing to deal with, man. Like then you're like finding a line where the priest is because you don't want to go on the line where the extraordinary minister is. It's like it's just tedious. Uh, all right, man, this is a fun one. I had fun on youtube especially.

Speaker 2: 1:54:29

I'm sorry I bummed you guys out with my uh, depressing money stories over here yeah, I should have saved the uh, the fun, uh vomit and poop stories for here instead of on youtube um no, I think that was good that you opened up over there.

Speaker 3: 1:54:46

I'm getting you to share more. I like that. It's good um so thursday, thursday, we have ryan katsu rivera on. Oh no, wait, no, wait, no, I think actually wait. No, we actually will tell you guys, we'll tell you guys. We're not telling the youtube side ryan katsu rivera you are an idiot.

Speaker 3: 1:55:07

Wow, that's right yeah, I totally forgot, but I'll tell you guys r Ryan Katz who Rivera is coming on. Only you guys can know this, don't blow the bit when we do it on YouTube. He's coming on as voice of reason on Thursday. So Thursday, voice of voice of reasons coming on Thursday. But it's really going to be Ryan Katz who Rivera. And then I'm trying to get Joshua Charles booked again. I've been talking to him. He's going to come back on.

Speaker 2: 1:55:34

We have salmon next Thursday right.

Speaker 3: 1:55:38

Eric salmon's next Thursday. I want to talk to him about the new Pope. We'll see how that's going. Plus, he's got a new book out. So yeah, ryan Katzer Rivera was also Jimmy Akin, for anyone that doesn't know. Yep, nick, we will get back on. Probably after that We'll get Nick back on.

Speaker 2: 1:56:01

We're still working on getting Strickland on.

Speaker 3: 1:56:04

Strickland. Yeah, we got some good stuff coming up. We'll, we'll, we'll get back to it. We. I have my vacation. Rob had his poop poop days off. We'll get back to it. Father Nick's my vacation. Rob had his poop poop days off. We'll get back to father nicks too. I've been talking to him too. He's, he's, uh, he's not on board with leo, just giving you guys a heads up, so we'll do father next. But I'm just telling you you leo fans, father nicks ain't there, uh, I don't, I mean so far.

Speaker 2: 1:56:34

Yet I haven't heard leo say anything that like kp2 wouldn't have said.

Speaker 3: 1:56:40

You know, I haven't heard him say much of anything. Right, it's kind of it's. I think it's gonna be a boring papacy, which is better than the last one, like the last one was like every week we got something else. I just think it's gonna be a pretty tame papacy unless world events change that. Like world events could absolutely change that and he has no choice but to step in. But so far it seems like he's just playing it safe and he wants to, you know. But let's hope some good things come from us. Can, uh, ryan do a mafrat accent? I'm sure? Um, yeah, father isaac's definitely not a fan of leo. There's a lot of guys. So, all right, we're gonna wrap this one up. We will see you guys on thursday.

Speaker 2: 1:57:24

Don't blow our spot in the chat yeah, we can trust the audience, thank you.