Carrie Prejean Boller asks, "Is Anti-Zionism Antisemitism?" (Full LOCALS Show)

Rob and Ant watch and discuss the controversial clips of Carrie Prejean Boller coming out of the Religious Liberty Commission regarding Zionism and antisemitism. 

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Transcript

Cold Open, Competing Streams, Gym Pain

SPEAKER_02 0:32

All right, so Taffy, don't get mad. The intro's totally fine. Like, Taffy gave us an intro. We're gonna do it on the way over to locals because it's like it didn't fit the show tonight. And like we just did a whole show of gossip, and this is a very gossipy intro. And I was like, I don't like it would have led us into talking about the thing because of the intro, and so is so yeah. If you guys want to see the intro, we're gonna play the intro going into locals, and then that will kick off.

SPEAKER_11 1:02

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Is life site premiering your interview right now? Yes, right up against ours. Anthony v. Anthony.

SPEAKER_12 1:14

I got I actually oh man, I I'm curious to see. Wait, hang on.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

I want to just kind of see like feminism and the Jews. Let's start feminism and the Jews in America. You have the huge influx of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah, so I'm on with John Henry Weston right now. Uh that was my interview when I went down to Florida. Well, uh I'll tell you, man, just seeing some of the pictures for me down there. I was like, oh, it's time to get it's time to get back to time for Lent. And I I started the gym um this week. I've been talking to Majari and Pantile. Like I am in so much pain, dude. I'm back at the gym. My body is in agony. Well, that's what that's why I figured it's a good week to get back in because I'm so sore. But that's the other dude, it's crazy. Like, I've never seen my company shut down like this. So we we shut down the last day I like officially work was January 23rd. I was off the first week, uh, the last week of January. Then last week I got called in for three days. Well, of course, there's two people watching life site. They're you guys are all here. I got called in for three days last week.

SPEAKER_11 2:27

I guess 60 plus years old, too.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

It was uh it was like like random kind of work. So I actually told oh man, I don't know if am I allowed to talk about this? I don't know. This might be legal reasons. I can't. We'll talk. Well, I'll tell that story about locals. What oh that's like I had him hold the day. I can't I don't want to say it because like we talking about the gambling. No, we'll get into that now. So there's probably legal reasons not to talk about that one too. Well, that what's interesting is so I've been I've been out of work for three weeks, right?

Work Slowdown And Super Bowl Squares

SPEAKER_02 2:57

And I put money on the Super Bowl, but I didn't bet the Super Bowl, we had these boxes, and Super Bowl boxes are like you you buy a box and then they put one through ten on the top, one through ten on the side, Seahawks on the side, uh Patriots on the top, and like they're random numbers. And if your if your number comes in, you get you get paid per minute, right? So now I split these boxes.

SPEAKER_11 3:22

Oh, it is this one of the setters.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

We'll do sede drama tonight, don't we? Yeah, but is that one of them? Uh we'll do we'll do sede drama tonight. Uh at some point. Like if you guys are tuning in for the title, I just I don't know, stick with us. I don't know. This is just it's people getting mad at me because I call them boxes, and I heard people call them squares. So, so anyway, so I get zero zero and zero three Seahawks having three, right? Now that means every minute of the game, you get a thousand dollars for as long as the score stays those numbers. So the game starts off, and we get like six minutes of zero, zero, and then the Seahawks kick a field goal and it goes to three-zero. Now I have both of those boxes, so I have zero, zero, and three, zero right through the first quarter and three minutes into the next quarter. Now I'm splitting these boxes four ways because it's my brother-in-law, my two brothers-in-law, and my father-in-law are in it also. So it winds up being like 20,000 that we win, 23,000 because it's like a five thousand dollar bonus at the quarter and all this. So it's like 23 grand we win, split four ways after you give like a tip to the guy running the box.

SPEAKER_11 4:32

Is this technically legal?

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Yeah, because like the guy's not making money on the box, so like it's just a pool, right? It's like if you're hosting a card game, as long as the house isn't making money, right? It's legal, right? So it's like as long as the house isn't

The Extra $16,000 And Moral Crossroads

SPEAKER_02 4:49

making money is legal. So it turns so we we end up. I'm supposed to go today to go pick up the the 20 grand. I go there and the guy hands me an envelope and he goes, uh, he goes, hey, here's your envelope, and I and I leave the place and I get in my car and I count it.

SPEAKER_11 5:09

Hold on. Hold on. You're walking around somewhere nearby New York City. Not near New York on Long Island. Okay, still with you thought 20 grand in cash on you without carrying a firearm. Who said I wasn't carrying a firearm?

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Who said I wasn't with someone carrying a firearm? I'm just saying. Yeah, I that's not going into a situation like that without being without without proper protection. Okay, good, good, good. I'm I'm proud of you. I get in the car and I count it and perfect time. Listen, listen to this story, guys. I'm not kidding how crazy this is. I get in the car, it's supposed to be 20,000 in there, but there's 36,000 in there. Now dude, I don't care how Catholic you are, the thought goes through your mind, okay? Like, I don't care how Catholic you are, the thought goes through your mind.

SPEAKER_11 6:17

I pull out of there and I'm like, That's how you end up sleeping with the fishes.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I'm like, no, this guy just this guy would have never known. This guy's got so much going on, he'd have never known the mistake he made. Like he literally never would have known the mistake he made. I drive away and I'm just thinking about it, and I'm going, no, like this isn't even like this isn't one of those things, like you can't confess this because you can't you have to make amends. Like, there's no way you can do this. It's basically like saying, I'm giving up my relationship with God for 16 grand.

SPEAKER_11 7:00

That's that guy give you a 1099.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Only if you went over 10 grand, right? You know, Rob, it's a it's a it's a friendly pool that you're shipping in on. You don't need to, there's no saying I wouldn't be getting it. Why are you talking like this?

SPEAKER_11 7:15

It might have been the ship, maybe maybe I've been a local show.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

I'm just telling a story. Come on, we're talking about uh so I'm I'm I'm literally like, yeah, you like there's no it's not like this guy never would have known, he would have just been like I messed up somewhere, but there's no way you can confess that without making amends, like there's no way it's impossible. Like you're you have to make amends.

SPEAKER_11 7:41

No, you don't have to, not for absolution. A priest cannot require that.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

He can't require it, but like, dude, there's no way either way, you know what I mean? I know what you're saying. I like either way, like it's stealing, you know what I mean? It's dealing. So I go back in and I'm like, You got another AA you owed money to? And he's like, No, why? I go, sit down, sits down, and I pull the envelope out. I go, This is what you really were supposed to give me, and this is what you gave me. He was like, Oh, I go, you literally gave the money to the only person who would have returned it to you. Yeah, it's like go and double check all your work. It's like you, I'm not kidding, you gave it to the only person who would have returned it to you. Not another person would have done that for you. He goes, I'm gonna throw you in a free thousand dollar box that march madness. I'm like, I haven't watched basketball once in my life. You're like, you're like, no, no, I'm like, I don't want it. Please

Conscience, Confession, And Making Amends

SPEAKER_02 8:37

don't make me watch that, dude. Um, I was just so like, and then I'm driving home and I'm like, you know what? It's good. I don't care. I get to sleep with a clean conscience, man. Like, that was a hard one though, because the devil really does sneak in on stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it's dirty money.

SPEAKER_11 8:53

It's you wouldn't have even had to split that 16 grand.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

I wouldn't have. Why? I gotta give my my the guys I split the box would get what they get. That would have been my 16. That would have been my 16. So I would have had my five plus, I would have 21 grand. But he but here's really how I looked at it like I was laid off for three weeks and didn't get a paycheck. And God literally gave me a way to like I haven't had to ask anybody, it's not like I put a fundraiser on, hey guys, I'm off of work, can you help me? I haven't had to do that at all. Because like God like drops these little things in my in my in my life that it's like, okay, you're still doing okay, you don't need to do that. Like it really is uh it really is amazing how God has taken care of me, and I'm not gonna play games with that.

SPEAKER_11 9:37

He he did already fix the boat, everyone.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

I could that that could have that could have went towards the the the boat fund, but yeah, the boat's already fixed. Um I never asked you guys for money for the boat, never once. Don't you dare. I never ever did that. But yo, you know what I will you know what I was thinking about, dude. We've never had a cold spell like this in New York in like in 10 years. Like, I don't remember it ever being cold like this. If we didn't do that for my brother, every one of the pipes in his freaking house would have burst. I think Anthony misread the card and actually won. Nah, I went back and double checked everything. I thought maybe I hit because I had I had I had those two boxes I split with my brothers and father-in-law, and I also had another box that if that box would have come in, I would have hit the 10 grand, but it didn't come in, and that box didn't come in. So I'm like sitting there and I'm trying to find a way to make it okay to keep them. Dude, don't believe me. I went through every scenario. Like maybe I missed something. Our fans will never let anything go. Never. It's been three years of the look. I tell you guys everything. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so stupid. I literally air out everything on this show. Yes, he should have given me, he should have thrown me, he should have thrown me a thousand for I I literally he gave it to the only part because I talked to a bunch of other people and they were like, You gave him that like why didn't you just take like why would you give that back? It's like, how do I not give it back to him? Like, I'd say like way too much. I'm sorry, guys. Somebody already criticized me for that. I say way way too many likes. I apologize. Um, yeah, it was it was a hard one though, man. You really you I'm telling you that you start to think about like uh can I get away with this? Should I get away with this? And I I'm I I feel good about giving him his money back. I can sleep good at night. God took care of me for the time I was off, and he gave me enough money to supplement my income while I'm off. And he's blessed me with uh with many things in my life. I don't need to steal. Stealing's a big one, man. I don't like playing games with money. Like stealing is one of the one of the big ones. It's it's I don't know. It's a it's a it's one that all of us should avoid at all costs. Like, I I even get like that with you know with overtime and stuff. Like you can't you can't just be you gotta be very cautious with this stuff. Uh you repent of not doing the street interviews. You guys are going to get surprised. First off, the equipment I bought though, I'm bringing to Italy. So you guys will get interviews in Italy. I'll give you that. That money will go to something. Yeah, stealing is one of the top 10, man.

SPEAKER_13 12:16

Um Stealing's one of the top 10.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

You gotta you gotta you gotta watch those. Uh look, I'm being honest with you guys that it was tempting to walk away with 16,000. Like, that's a big number, man. And and I never would have got caught. The guy never would have known who he overpaid. Like, there was just way too many people he's dealing with, he would have never known. And I did, I gave it back to him. So, so that was one story. Um, uh, what else have we done? I'm being sued. I'm being sued being sued for an accident my son got into. You know what would have you know what really helped with that? 16 grand.

Lawsuits, Insurance, And The Dog Claim

SPEAKER_02 13:01

16 grand would certainly help with that. I'm being sued. So my my son, when he first got his car back in like 2023, got in an accident, totaled the car. Uh, I didn't hear anything for two years, and I thought nothing of it. But you know, the all the accident was over and everything. I get served in the mail the other day, and I'm reading through the the the summons. I said that to Rob and um the woman is suing me for a hundred grand for damages to her dog. She's suing for a hundred grand for herself, right? So, my my insurance policy, I guess my liability covers a hundred thousand per person. That's my liability coverage. So if you get in an accident with somebody, you have a hundred thousand dollars coverage per person in the vehicle. So she's trying to get a hundred grand for the dog. And Rob, Rob, what we say, you're like, it's property, right?

SPEAKER_11 13:51

Yeah, so this has come up uh of a few different times at different states with self-defense, like where a dog attacks someone or it looks like they're gonna attack someone, and the guy shoots it, and the family tries to sue them for you know all this money, and in the end, that the judge is like, it was just property. He the guy destroys your property, he pays you back the value of the property. So here's like two grand for a new dog. Yeah, like it would have been cheaper if that dog had died in that car.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

So this person's saying, Is there any kind of statute of limitations on it? Yes, they served me the summons nine days before the statute of limitations was it took her that long to find a lawyer that would do it on uh uh what was it called when they do it on on commission? I got so we I don't I don't know if we should do this on locals because the last time we talked about it, I had to do like the whole Chinese accent and everything. So my daughter, so both my kids did this to me, man. My son gets his license, and a month later he totals his car. My daughter, when she gets her car, within like three months, she has less than a fender bender. She barely taps this guy's car. It like did some bumper damage on his car, and he like it's so so minor talking about you lost it on air.

SPEAKER_12 15:13

My lawyer's chirping.

SPEAKER_11 15:15

I wonder if uh Taffy the lawyer would also say that.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

So my daughter gets this fender bender, and the Chinese guy has a fender bender with him, and um the guy on the scene, like I'm not even there. My daughter FaceTimes me, she's hysterically crying just because she's upset she got an offender bender. But I talk to the guy, as a Chinese kid, he goes to medical school along. He's everything fine, everything fine, no, no, no police, no nothing. So they leave. Well, yeah, because that no way that guy was insured. He was, but I think what happened was he was a young guy. He saw a pretty girl, my daughter had a fender bender, and he's like, Oh, don't worry about it. Then he went home to his Chinese parents. Oh, his Chinese parents were like, No, you sue, she hit you. That one, they took a hundred grand for my insurance, right? Well, my insurance didn't even want to fight with them because the guy was gonna go for fake surgeries and stuff. I'm telling you, yeah, it was it was like these people were crazy. I think I think the insurance got on the phone with them, like, all right, we're just gonna we're just gonna pay it out. Max policy, fine. But this one that the the the girl with the dog, I think my like she never went to the doctor, she never got a surgery, nothing. So my insurance is like, we're not just gonna pay you out on this, you don't have any real injuries. Like the the girl's just trying to everybody does it, everybody does it.

SPEAKER_11 16:38

Yeah, the jury's gonna love the accents, they just uh people on that jury gonna be like, Oh, yeah, that pretty good, pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

I don't know. Listen, this is this is your Catholic podcast entertainment, guys.

SPEAKER_11 16:57

I don't know what you also didn't I see a picture of uh your wife hitting your uh holy cow, yeah man.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

My my wife my wife puts the the truck bumper right into the into the hitch for the boat. I'm like, do you like how how do I let you drive? I don't understand, and you can see all the other dents on the bumper from all the other things my wife has hit. Woman gonna kill her. Oh man, never a dull moment in the abody home, I'll tell you that. So, yes, this is your this is your Catholic podcast, guys. I don't know who else has shows like Rob and I, but I heard Tim Gordon did the same topic tonight. Did he talk? Did he talk about his gambling lawsuits and Asians? Is this is this how Tim Gordon's show started out tonight? Um, yeah, it's interesting because I knew tonight would be one of those shows where we like talk about personal stories and things like that because it's a slow news week. But what was interesting, uh, to me, well, should we do knickknacks before we jump into it? Yeah, we probably should talk about

Family Fender Benders And Domestic Chaos

SPEAKER_02 18:03

our sponsor. We should talk about Knickknacks and what's going on with the shop lobster guys because I want lobster tails before Lent. What do you mean? I want lobster tails before Lent. Well, you know the website, yeah. I'm gonna, but I want to I don't want to shout it out until I know they're on board. Are they on board?

SPEAKER_11 18:20

Well it's Wednesdays next week. I know, but what's stopping you from going from ordering lobster tails?

SPEAKER_02 18:26

I didn't want to mention it on the show until I know they're on board. That's all I'm saying. Oh I'll I'll talk to them tomorrow. Because the thing is, um, like last last episode was a bit of like gossipy stuff about you know Sarah Stock and Elijah. Tonight we're gonna talk about um we're gonna gossip about the Jews. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Jews a little bit, but for Lent, I I do want to do more spiritual driven um shows.

SPEAKER_11 18:52

Are you gonna do Lenten readings? Yeah, I want to do um Divine Intimacy daily for Lent.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Um I I think that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_11 19:02

Yeah, don't bail like you did at um well, Evan Evan sucked because of all the traveling we were doing and stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

The because I I I think for for the hardcore listeners that actually watch Rob's Lenton reflections, they're always good because he doesn't just do the reading, like Rob gives a little summation of it and he gives a little personal anecdote for it and stuff. And my mother and my wife and myself, like all of us really do enjoy those. So I really do hope you stick to the Lenten readings. But besides even that, I I would like for our shows to be a little more spiritual driven. Um I'm I'm still like hammering out the details of what I'm giving up for Lent. Um, I know I'm most likely I'm definitely giving alcohol up. Um I might do bread and cheese again, man. That's such a hard one for me because like 90% of my diet was on sandwiches, and it's just it's one of those cheese and it totally translated changes everything you're eating, and then still give up meat on Wednesdays and Fridays and stuff. Like I'm still hammering out exactly what I'm going to do. I think um I think I'm gonna eat something and bring it to the show.

SPEAKER_11 20:16

I think I'm gonna be uh fasting every day except Sunday, so one meal, one you know for dinner, and uh completely meatless through Lent. I have a fasting.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

I have a priest who I would I have probably two priests who I would like to get on, and they're not priests who have been on previously, so but I do have two priests in mind who I would like to get on during Lent. I have to figure out what I'm going to what we're going to talk about, but uh that will definitely be something we do. I yeah, I want to do more. I just because I liked when we did that during Advent. Like we did those two deep dives into scripture during Advent. I think we should try to do, I think we should try to keep our show with the liturgical flow to you know try to keep it.

SPEAKER_11 21:02

Should I um I'd probably have to do it this weekend, which isn't too bad, but um maybe I should record uh um Stations of the Cross. People can people can put on because because I've looked for that on YouTube before and I I found some good ones, but um, yeah. If you

Lent Plans, Fasting, And Spiritual Focus

SPEAKER_11 21:23

guys would like uh Stations of the Cross, you can play whenever you want throughout let me know.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

A lot of people ask for Father Maudsley to come on during line. Maybe we could do that. Um yeah, I I have I have a couple of ideas. Uh one priest in particular I would like to bring on. Um just going to figure out exactly what we're going to do. Like um Bobby bought me a book. Um oh man, that two.

SPEAKER_11 21:49

Oh no, we we didn't do knick knack, we we still haven't done knickknack.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

That too. Bobby, Bobby came out and met all my sisters except Teresa and Jack who threw the bottle at my head, my sister's baby daddy.

SPEAKER_03 22:09

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 22:10

We'll do it all that. Hold on, before we go any further, knick knacks. Nicknack.com. Knickknacks are the best. Um, there's they're trying to pitch a a uh a taxation on nicotine pouches in New York, and I'm really hoping Knick knacks is not or Nick Knack is not affected by this because Knick knack oh man, my new favorite is grapefruit. I'm sorry. Grapefruit's good. Yep. Grapefruit is so good, man. Grapefruit, uh, lemon, uh tangerine, blood orange, and the blood orange, like all the fruitier flavors are the citrus flavors are so good.

SPEAKER_11 22:50

You should not be surprised that that's coming from a man whose favorite drink is a rocket fuel, a rocket fuel, which is like a pina colada with a shot of dark bicardi on top. Yes, I do need a haircut, Margot. You're right, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 23:05

But but the thing is, I I thought because I do like like when I take like Zen, I prefer wintergreen or I prefer like the mint instrument. Yeah, like when I do Zin, but the Knickknacks, I prefer the citrus flavors. But Knickknacks are amazing and they give us a very good discount. So if you guys go to knicknack.com, use code AB25 for 25% off. Um, they've been very helpful for me because I've given up some other vices that I'm not allowed to say that it actually helps with, but it totally helps with that. If you have any uh if you have any other cravings, it totally helps them, but I'm not allowed to say that it actually helps them because it's definitely not a smoking cessation device, and also legal disclaimer.

SPEAKER_11 23:51

Uh legal, legally, we are required to say that they do contain nicotine, which is the point of having them. They didn't have nicotine. Why the heck would we want them? But we do have to say that nicotine is also an addictive chemical, which might be why we want them, I guess. But um, it is gonna help with fasting during that.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

That's true, that's true. So we can't say it's a smoking cessation device, but we can say it's a fasting aid. Can we say it's a fasting aid? Because it will definitely curtail your curtail your appetite, I would think.

SPEAKER_11 24:18

I don't know until the FDA tells us we can't say the FDA totally guess.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Yeah, I don't know. We're getting into all sorts of legal trouble for Knickknack, but knick knack.com use code AB25. Uh AV AB25 for 25% off at checkout. Okay,

Sponsor Read: Nicotine Pouches And Fasting

SPEAKER_02 24:34

so um, yeah, uh, I got I forget. I have stories, but I have to save them to locals because some stuff especially because I have I forget there's family listening to our show now. Like there's family listening to my show, like people are sharing my show within my family. So I have to be I have to be cautious, but it all Bobby got Bobby got Bobby got the full display of what an Abadi function is like. I haven't even seen that thing. Oh man, it's wild. Like there's just so much tension. They wanted to play the game nouns, and and it just got really tense for a little bit. And Nick Nax helped me fast completely. But I thought I thought Bobby was gonna say Nick Knacks helped me get through my experience at the Abadi family home over the weekend to relieve some of the stress of dealing with me and my sisters. My sisters are a handful, man. The abody family.

SPEAKER_11 25:26

The answer is to this is yes.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

Should I call it the John Deloney if Ant gives me a script of what to say? I um I also have what do you think? Should we do another John Deloney episode? I'll go through and I'll find the worst of John Deloney where he likes where he tells women to get divorced, where he tells women that's the perfect title to an episode like that.

SPEAKER_11 25:50

The worst of John Deloney, the worst of John Deloney.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Like, I will scour this stuff and I will I will go through the punishment and find the ones where he advises women to leave their husbands. I'm a senior in high school, and in my financial literacy class, we were watching John Deloney, and I checked my phone to see last night's episode, and lo and behold, John Deloney.

SPEAKER_11 26:11

Seniors in high school watching our show. That's awesome. We had uh we we did an interview with the college kid this weekend. Yeah, he's doing a a project um on us for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Well, yeah, so that was interesting. He's 20. Then uh I met a couple of young guys after mass this week. Um, two guys, two guys came up to me after mass, said they really enjoy the show. All young guys, man. It's a it really is it's it's a great feeling to have like young guys come up to you and tell you that they they enjoy the show. Ocean or watch our show.

SPEAKER_11 26:47

Are you a sophomore in high school ocean?

SPEAKER_02 26:49

I think he was on our show. He came on one of the advice shows. Did he? Uh I know he watches all the time. He he I think he watches uh he found us when we had um Wagner on. Oh, he checks our show out, yes. Yeah, he was on our show.

SPEAKER_11 27:04

Uh the college kid probably cares more about his grades than the high school dropout did, most likely.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

He was it was interesting because he asked guys. I'm sorry if you came in for the topic tonight, like it's just not one of those shows. Like, we will get to it, but because what man, it's Lila Rose again, and I see I see all of the um more ice coolers. Wow, I see the mistake all all of the typical guys are making, like they see this this this base chick speaking out against Israel, and I saw everybody lining up. Oh, get her on the show, get her on the show. And I'm like, boys, don't do it.

SPEAKER_11 27:40

She uh she is apparently a Candace fan, so but just don't do it, just don't do it, don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

I don't know why you guys don't learn, man. You know, no e-girls ever, there's no exceptions.

SPEAKER_11 27:53

You know, Chris had the message crafted already, if not sent already, by the time you tweeted that. Chris, yeah, you know, you just know.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

I just saw I saw people starting to ask, hey, you want to come out? She's like, sure, I'll come up for an interview. And I'm like, nope, ain't doing it. Not doing it. I will not, I will not break this rule. We have we have our exceptions. It's like Nancy Charles. We make the exception

E‑Girls, Guests, And Show Boundaries

SPEAKER_02 28:18

for Nancy Charles, we make the exception for Catherine Bennett. Yep, those are the two women we allow on our show. No e-girls ever, neither of them are e-girls. We won't do it, not for any of them. I don't care how base you think that I don't care if they speak out against Israel, none of it. I don't care because I'm gonna tell you this girl, yeah, she said some cool stuff there. I guarantee this chick's a kook. Well, she's former Miss California. She's a kook. Come on, you can tell. She's a nut. She's like, yeah, so Mrs. Bennett, Mrs. Catherine Bennett. She is uh wonderful, Mrs. Catherine Bennett.

SPEAKER_11 28:52

The irony of the statement, Catherine Bennett gets a dispensation.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

I love Catherine. Man, she's awesome.

SPEAKER_11 28:59

Yeah, but that was different. Hope yeah, you're Rob's wife. I mean, and yeah, my wife's been on too.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

That doesn't count.

SPEAKER_11 29:08

We've had Angela on, but that was during trivia, so that's different.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

Angela's not an e-girl either. Like, no, definitely not it's a very specific thing when you mean e-girl, you know what I mean? It's like these aren't e-girls. Um, and that was an interesting time, anyway. It was like we were all we were trying to figure out what we were doing, we were doing trivia, and Angela we were trying to help her get going too. Angela's, you know. I I think Angela, if you're gonna listen to a girl that's pro-life, like you're better off listening to Angela than Lila, like yeah, like no, without a doubt. Like, I I want my girls listen, my daughters to listen to Angela. I don't want my daughters listening to Lila, you know, it's a very big difference. So, um, but yeah, I guess we could play the clip. We'll play the clip. Uh, what the lady said is pretty good.

SPEAKER_11 29:55

You want the one that I said start at like four minutes, that first one? Sure. We just wing it, whatever you think.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

And then we'll get into the Lila Rose stuff because the Lila Rose stuff is yeah, yeah, go to the four-minute point. We don't have to watch this whole thing. Yeah, I d yeah.

SPEAKER_11 30:18

Um Okay. So for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, this was at the Commission on Religious Liberty, which was put together by Trump. Um, and it's uh on a hearing on anti-semitism and freedom of religion. And I think we're ready here.

SPEAKER_07 30:37

I think that uh point for a second. Let me back up. I didn't want to step over that answer. I didn't know you were still both of you still talking.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

So just to be clear, is anti-Zionism anti-Semitism? Yes. It is under IHRA.

SPEAKER_07 30:50

Rebu, you're up there.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

You're not sure. So what is the definition? I would love to uh to speak to that. Um undoubtedly, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, and undoubtedly, and one does not have to support the specific policies of the government of Israel, but to not support the right of Israel to exist, which is what anti-Zionists do, while not taking that same stand to the 28 Muslim countries and 13 Christian countries in this world, is a double standard, is hypocrisy, and it's absolutely anti-Semitism.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

I think it's also important that we not make Islamophobic remarks while we're here today.

SPEAKER_11 31:34

Yeah, she's a little crazy about the uh the Muhammadan.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

But that's what I mean. Like everybody

Anti‑Zionism, Israel, And Catholic Framing

SPEAKER_02 31:40

clamoring over this chick. This chick's nuts, dude. I'm just telling you. I mean, she's she's nuts. I mean, go well, I'm happy she's she did this. I mean, it's all everybody's talking about today. And she does we'll we'll finish out what she's saying because she says some good stuff, but let's just be real about it. Like the the thing is, like, people think they need to justify their criticism of Israel with the Palestine. Right. I agree. You don't need to. It's like you don't need to just just make it like your only issue with Israel is because of what they're doing in in the in Gaza. That's uh but go ahead, we'll let it play out.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

I would appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Uh I just want to say religious liberty here. God forbid, uh, was anything like that said. Um, but if you deny if the Jewish people are the only people that you deny the right to have a to have its own state, that is absolutely a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semitism.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Well, as you know, I'm a Catholic. I'm a Catholic, and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know. So is are all Catholics anti-Semites, according to you?

SPEAKER_01 32:50

As I said, anti-s anti-Zionism by denying the right of the Jews to have their own state while not saying the same for any other people's, that is a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semites.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

So just to be clear, are Catholics anti-Semites? Carrie, excuse me.

SPEAKER_07 33:09

I'm going to interrupt the discussion. Our committee is focused on religious liberty taken from all people, whether it be Muslims, Jews, Christians, Sikhs, we've had all those witnesses here. This is not a commission on defining religions or calling out any theology, or this is not um the commission for that. Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

But we're talking about a foreign nation, so I want to be clear on what the definition of anti-Semitism is. If I don't support the political state of Israel, am I an anti-Semite? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_07 33:41

They already answered, asked and answered.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

According to you on the record, yes. I don't support the the political state of Israel? Uh I don't personally.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Yeah, like they're talking past each other in a way, like like one she's saying, do I need to support the political state of Israel? And he's saying, Does Israel have a right to exist? Now, my question would be, what do you mean by a right to exist? Like, does anybody have a right to exist? Like, like what country has a right to exist? And what do you mean by right? Are you saying like a divine right to exist? Because Israel does exist.

SPEAKER_11 34:16

Right. Like whether we I mean there's there's a lot, there's many nations in the world without states, right?

SPEAKER_02 34:23

I mean so so Israel does exist. So saying like I don't think they have a right to exist, I don't know whether I don't know what you're even getting at. I don't think they have a divine right to exist. I don't think they have uh a right, even a human right based upon the fact that they have some some inheritance to this land based on history or scripture. No, I don't think that. I think that they do live in this land, and I think that they do probably have some kind of a right to defend themselves because they already exist, and you're not and on a natural level, you're not going to say like that. I'm sorry I keep saying black guys, but it's just stop stop worrying about it, it's making it worse. Crutch, I'm sorry, say it. It's just it's hard to make a distinction here because they do exist. So whether I think they I just want to make sure people don't ever say when they ask you, does Israel have a right to exist, ask them what they mean? Because Lila Rose said this today, also, where um she said, if Zionism means I think Israel has a right to exist, then I'm a Zionist, and so is the Catholic Church. If Zionist means I condone everything Israel, the Israeli government does, then no, I'm not a Zionist. I also don't condone everything America does. So this is why this stuff gets conflated and mixed up and stuff. I want to know what she means by right to exist, because she means whatever she needs to mean for her to stay in her little pocket of of evangelical Christianity.

SPEAKER_11 35:54

That's what she means.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

They don't have a right to the land based upon history because they were there in biblical times. Like, no, that's not why that they they do live, they do they are in that land because they forced their way in and they made deals and whatever. Like, that's how so we're in a position where you can't just throw them out now, they're there. Well, you can throw them out, but you can yeah.

SPEAKER_11 36:21

I mean, they threw whoever was there before they threw everyone who was there before out, so it's doable.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

But they do they do occupy that region, so at this point, uh you like I I I I mean, I honestly think that if you if you want to get theological on it, I think that the state of Israel is the kingdom of Satan on earth. I mean, that's what I think it is.

SPEAKER_11 36:49

I mean, as Catholics, like we don't believe any nation that professes a false religion has the right to exist and make you know exist under that false religion, you know.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

I mean, like every people has a right to exist, and they they have a um

Defining “Right To Exist” And Theology

SPEAKER_02 37:11

I don't know if there's a real natural right to the right to exist, god, god, god, like they have a god-given right to exist, of course, but the their false religion does not, right?

SPEAKER_11 37:21

Yeah, that like if that's gonna be this if that's gonna be a state religion, then no, that state does not have a right to exist, and then Catholics would say the exact same thing for those 28 Muslim nations, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

And when they say, like, because that guy was saying, Do you think that Jews don't have a right to their own homeland? I mean, do we have a right to our own homeland? I mean, Jews would say no. That's what the irony of this whole conversation is. Because I'm I'm fine with you guys having a right to as long as you afford us the same rights. Are you gonna afford us the same rights that you are asking for yourself? And um, there were times where we had Catholic states that I think should have had a right to exist, but those were disbanded, and the American government did everything they could to upend. I mean, you're talking about the American government, forget the Israeli government, the American government.

SPEAKER_11 38:13

If you look at what happens in South America and Central America and America helped assassinate Gabriel Gers uh uh Gabriel Moreno in uh Ecuador, we uh the Americans helped fund um what was the name of them?

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Uh Kales against the the Gustavo's yeah, um, so some somebody had said to me, um and where was it? Uh oh, so no, they have a right to live in their ancestral homeland, they have a right to be alive. The Jews who have always lived in Israel, who never left, have a right to their own country and government, free from hatred and whatever that was.

SPEAKER_11 38:54

But someone the person who wrote that has no idea that it was the Zionists who actually kicked out the um the Mizrahi Jews, the the Middle Eastern Jews who had lived there off of their land, just like they did to the the native Christians and and the Mohammedans that were there. Trust me, there's no one that hated the Zionists more than the Middle Eastern Jews who had lived there for 2,000 years. Yeah, so I mean it just shows an ignorance of history.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

There's also the element that comes in of the judgment of God that comes upon the Jews when they reject Christ and they get dispersed amongst the nations. That's a very real thing that happens, and it is part of their judgment, and it's not the first time it's happened, God has done it before. So, I mean, we've talked about this plenty of times on our show, but I I just I think it's interesting when you watch these um these back and forths between this lady Carrie Pajan Bowler, whatever her name is, this who just became Catholic six months ago. I mean, she just she just became Catholic, right? So, and and the other thing is I actually agree with Lila on something else. Oh boy, which is very rare, but um uh I want to bring this up. Hang on, I don't know, I didn't put it in the uh so Lila said uh uh so to Carrie. Uh that so do you want to bring up Lila's tweet of of that carrie ratioed? Bring up Lila's tweet that Carrie ratioed.

SPEAKER_11 40:28

Carrie was ratio Carrie ratioed me, and she was agreeing with me.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Yeah, well, I mean listen, Carrie's all the rage today. Everybody's everybody thinks she's amazing, right? So I'm not saying for e-girls, Jim. I'll kill you. Shut up. It's not what I'm doing. I'm gonna make it. Do you remember what it started? I want to make a point here about because it's very it's very easy for Catholics to fall into this we're being persecuted in America thing.

SPEAKER_11 40:57

Which one they're using the Catholic faith as a way to denigrate that one.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. So let's bring up Lila that that tweet by Lila. And is always something. Lila's gonna be on A B.

SPEAKER_11 41:13

I I noticed that Anthony's not blocked by her by it, but I am.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

I'm not, I'm not blocked by Lila. I try not to be too inflammatory. I try to be a little subtle in my whatever stuff. Using the Catholic faith as a way to denigrate Jewish people or any people, spread lies, slander, and mock, and ridicule others is immoral and antithetical to the faith you profess. This isn't representing Christ, it's representing your own anger and self-righteousness. So now Carrie replied to that. Um, I might be a ways down though. I don't know. So here we go. Um, and this is what I mean. Where's your outreach for the 70,000 Palestinians who have been slaughtered? And and here's the thing: I I I because we all I've I'm watching the way this conversation is getting couched into the Gaza Palestine thing, and it's a very libertarian way of looking at this stuff. And yes, it's horrific what's happening in Gaza and the Palestinians, but this this conversation doesn't even need to go there. It doesn't, it doesn't,

Persecution, IHRA, And Legal Lines

SPEAKER_02 42:20

no, it can, but it doesn't need to. Um, so yeah, so Carrie says, and by the way, I never denigrated the Jewish people. That's a slanderous lie. I simply called out the fact that I don't have to embrace Zionism as my theology as a Catholic. And okay, God, you want to say something?

SPEAKER_11 42:35

I was I was just gonna say, I mean, Carrie's right with that one because the way Lila frainged that tweet was honestly most likely sinful because it uh it honestly did make it.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

She was insinuating that that Carrie was you know denigrating the Jews and she wasn't and being anti-Semitic when all she was saying, I don't need to support Zionism. So Lila being very cautious because she doesn't want to get into slander or libel or anything like that. Um, she responded to her, she said, This wasn't about you, Carrie. Also, I say this with love: you and Candace are not victims of religious persecution. You both and I are all very privileged and enjoy tremendous religious freedom and security in America. There are Christians dying for their faith at the hands of Islamists as we speak in Nigeria. Also, I think you should define your terms. How do you define Zionism? If it means Israel alongside Palestine has a right to exist, that is the position of the Vatican. Like it always devolves into this two-state solution stuff. But Lila is very right about I don't like when Catholics try to act like we're being persecuted. Yeah, Lila, but it's taking the I mean seven grand for that tweet. Of course, you would take the 16 grand for that.

SPEAKER_11 43:47

No, we're in you know, in our country and in most of Europe, no, there's no red martyrdom or anything, but but the fact that a Catholic can't Can't go and make a statement like that, you know, a true statement about Catholic theology like that without everyone calling them an anti-Semitic.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

But that's not persecution, in my opinion. It depends well, once again, it's not persecution in my opinion. Look, this is all I'm saying is that we do need to understand as Catholics, not only do we have religious okay.

SPEAKER_11 44:20

But the fact that they they the when they're talking about the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, that's like the Holocaust Remembrance Association, that they want to work into actual law in the country.

SPEAKER_12 44:31

That's a different story.

SPEAKER_11 44:33

If that's well, that's well, that's what that whole commission was about, right?

SPEAKER_02 44:36

So there is a real movement for and even that, right? Um, I just I just want to make sure that we keep things in perspective. As Catholics, not only are we not persecuted, but we get real we get tax exemption status from the government for our churches, and we are perfect, we are allowed to practice our faith however we want. We're allowed to save it. No, that's not true. We weren't during COVID. Oh, that's true. I mean, yeah, but the church worked the church worked hand in hand with the government during that.

SPEAKER_11 45:10

Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

But I mean, but I I think you get what I'm getting at either way, right?

SPEAKER_11 45:16

We're not my faith tells me it would be completely morally okay to burn an abortion clinic to the ground. Yeah, I do that, I go to prison.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

Yeah, I like come on, like we're no, that's not that's still not religious persecution, though, man. Like, we're because I don't think we're actually allowed to fully freely practice our course, but but I'm just saying we're not being actively persecuted. I want to make sure people understand that because I agree with that. There could come a time when we are persecuted, and that's when your faith gets tested. And I just don't think that's where we are right now. I think right now, even even what this what this woman did, not only is she not going to suffer, I mean, she may suffer some negative repercussions for speaking out, like she may get fired, things like that. But the fact is, she's going to also garner a ton of support, a ton of attention, ton of people backing her, right? So there's there's um, yes, this is this is kind of my point. The the persecution we are actually dealing with is from our own hierarchy more than the state. Yeah, I agree with that. Like, that's actually the current situation for Catholics, is that your own hierarchy working in tandem with the deep state in some way is is persecuting more persecuting you more than any government entity right now. Your your own bishop in Charlotte is telling you you can't be Catholic. Yeah, you know, you you're the bishop in what is it, Denver coming out and ranting about Trump's racism because of a meme. Detroit, Detroit. What about the proposed laws mandating the priest? That that would be a form of persecution, but it's a proposed law, it's not in yet, right? So I just want to make sure people. I just I just want to make sure we don't jump to we're victims of something before we are, because there's going to I I just

Hierarchy Vs. State: Where Pressure Comes From

SPEAKER_02 47:20

see real persecution on the horizon, and I want to make sure people aren't throwing a hissy fit before. I mean, you can you can raise awareness and say, hey, we're we're we're heading towards that.

SPEAKER_11 47:29

Yeah, I mean, if the democrats ever gain national power again, like little you know, anti-sem anti-Semitic definitions and laws are gonna be the last things we need to worry about at that point, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

What's crazy is you you go but do you uh can you find the Cardinal George quote, Rob? See if you could look it up where Cardinal George says, I expect for me to die comfortable in my bed, my my successor to uh man, I forgot the exact way he worded it. Yeah, it's a Cardinal George quote. If he only knew that Cardinal Supic would succeed him. I hope you I hope you guys see what I'm saying here, right? Like I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to downplay um this the seriousness uh because what what is happening here, in my opinion, and this is kind of the opinion I've been forming over the past couple of years. I have it.

SPEAKER_11 48:23

Is that I expect to die in my bed, my successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history. Was was Supic his direct uh successor?

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_11 48:43

I'd love it if Supic died in prison.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

He just didn't he what Cardinal George never foresaw, and but it was because he was sick, and even he was sick as Francis comes in. Cardinal George was one of those bishops who were when Francis came in. Cardinal George was like, I just wish I could tell the Pope how confusing he's being to the people, and like that. That's that's what Cardinal George was saying before he died. Um, and he just he couldn't have foresaw Supic succeeding him and cooperating fully with this though, like he he just couldn't foresee it, but he may not be wrong in that these things still can take place, it just may be another successor of Supic that is the one who dies in prison, and it's still going to be the one after him picking up the shards and rebuilding Christendom as it has done in the past, like that really is coming. I just don't think he could have foresaw um uh what what what Supic would have been, you know. Um uh Gordon's texting me.

SPEAKER_11 49:51

Does he not know we're on a show?

SPEAKER_02 49:53

What's your show on tonight? Um so um the the my my my my point is that these things still may be coming. It's just we need to keep it in perspective about persecution. We're we're not there yet, and it's going to come. It's just it's just not playing out exactly how we all so none of us could have could have thought that the church would be the one laying these impositions down on us and telling us we can't practice the faith we want to and things like that. Um before before you brought up Cardinal uh George, I was thinking of something also. Um You brought up Cardinal George. I know, I know, and I know.

SPEAKER_13 50:36

I just kind of lost my um uh I thought I there's probably something in the comments to remind me. Uh I don't know. All right, I lost my train of thought. It's okay, it happens.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Um yeah, I I just um I think that oh, oh, that's where I was going. Um, I think that what we're seeing happen, especially with Lila and Carrie, you're seeing the divide where it's going to come down because I really do think there are going to be Catholics who I always blame Rob. Um, there's going to be Catholics who go along with the Sanhedrin during the during the passion of the church. And this is always, I mean, we Rob and I have been talking about this for the past year or two. I mean, this is where I see the dividing line coming down, and it goes down to two Catholics, Carrie, who's a recent convert, and then someone like Lila. Yeah, uh, we're talking about the same issue. Recent convert. So they're yeah, they're both converts, but either way, I the way I see this whole thing mapping out is kind of just you're you're going to see a ton of a ton of propaganda. You're gonna see a ton of division coming, and it's gonna come down on this issue of the older brother.

SPEAKER_11 52:00

I mean, I don't I it's kind of what we've been we've been that's becoming more and more

Converts, Online Fights, And Movement Fault Lines

SPEAKER_11 52:05

clear, more and more clear as time goes on, you know, and it's like it's gonna be like Catholics and the reformed guys against Jews and Protestants, other Protestants, I should say.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

Um, yeah, somebody um somebody somebody said something to me today. Uh because I think these issues are connected. So is Gordon right about patriarchy issue being one of the main ones in society? Yes, he is, and somebody said, like when somebody said that we should get carry on our show, I said no, my misogyny will always outweigh my anti-Semitism, like it just will. Like, there's no way that I'm going to uh you know have start having feminism.

SPEAKER_11 52:51

Who started the feminism?

SPEAKER_02 52:53

I agree, but I think they're very related. But I'll always I'll always have a disdain for for a that's true.

SPEAKER_11 53:00

Women are 50% of the population, whereas the Amish are two percent, two percent, right?

SPEAKER_02 53:05

So it's just uh it's a tricky issue, but you know. Um yeah, uh Laura Loomer's a vicious witch, which certainly. I mean, look, that we could talk about this all night. I just I just I I don't like when we couch this conversation always in the Palestine Gaza thing. No, like this is a theological issue, and people really need to understand this goes way deeper than that. Yes, that is actually what the the state of Israel is doing currently, but that's not really our issue with this whole thing. Our issue with how Israel is handling things has to do with the enmity between them and Christians, and it it's going to get more and more pronounced as we go forward. You're going to see, I mean, it's it's just it's just happening more and more, and you're going to see these arguments come up between Catholics. I mean, it is kind of strange how it's always Catholics having these things in public, right? It always seems like it's Catholics having these things.

SPEAKER_11 54:10

You don't hear Candace, Carrie, Jack Basobic.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

It's uh I mean, it's just all the people having these conversations seem to be Catholic. It is really bizarre.

SPEAKER_11 54:23

Joel Webbin will be Catholic eventually.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

I hope so. Uh he he's a bit of a stubborn guy. I don't know. Yeah, he's a he's a bit of a stubborn guy. I mean, I do think um, I mean, I enjoy my conversation with him, but I do think he's a bit stubborn. He he's still you gotta you gotta think these guys have created a business on being reformed or whatever, right? Right? So to for a guy like that who's got this, it's a that's a difficult switch to make to now all of a sudden start saying I'm Catholic.

SPEAKER_11 54:59

So true.

SPEAKER_13 55:02

Um Joe Who? I think he means Joel. Joel, do you mean Joel?

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Um, yeah, it's uh like I do, I do, I do enjoy Joel. I think that uh he's talking about a lot of important things, which is why I had him on. Um and Fed, our resident Protestant viewer, reform props are some of the most arrogant people there is. What's kind of funny about Fed is that um he is now arguing Catholic apologetics to Protestants.

SPEAKER_11 55:36

I see that on Twitter, and I want to make kind of a not a not a not a snide comment, not but kind of a little snarky comment. I'm like, nah, just let it be.

SPEAKER_12 55:46

So Fed Fed is now defending the Catholic position, um, which is pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_11 55:54

Um now to be fair, he does do it seemingly only when it is a position that is held by at least some Protestants, you know what I mean? Like they would have done to me.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

He said to me, he went out to um he went out to lunch with a Catholic priest the other day. He goes, he goes, If you have any questions, I should ask him. I said you should ask him if you could um uh bypass the OCIA process and have him just bring you immediately into the church so you don't have to sit through that one-year-long program.

SPEAKER_11 56:28

Ask him if there's any way you can get the cradle indulgence discount. It's of the cradle indulgence discount.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Uh all right. Well, there's a ton of things I want to talk about that I can't talk about on this side. Um, so we're going to uh we're gonna go over to locals.

SPEAKER_11 56:46

But you all before we do that, we'll get a Taffy clip.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

So we will outro Taffy's intro tonight, and that will be what we begin to talk about on locals. So if you are on the fence about locals, we will intro we will outro the YouTube show with Taffy's intro clip that should have been at the beginning of this show. We're gonna do it at the beginning of the local show. That will be what we begin to talk about, and then you'll get your Anthony family drama. Well, yeah, Anthony family drama. Uh what else I got? I got I got um flamingo negative drama, flamingo minus minus, minus, not negative, flamingo minus flamingo minus drama, and if you don't know what that means, I don't know

Locals Tease: Family Drama And Flamingo Minus

SPEAKER_02 57:30

what to tell you.

SPEAKER_11 57:30

If you don't know what that means, come over to avoidingbabylon.locals.com and you'll learn.

SPEAKER_13 57:37

Because you know we have more subscribers than flamingo.

SPEAKER_11 57:42

At least per capita.

SPEAKER_12 57:44

No, we got more.

SPEAKER_11 57:45

And if you don't know what per capita means, you're on the wrong channel.

SPEAKER_12 57:48

Let me tell you something. We're gonna get into some gossip.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

Ah, you guys are missing out if you're not on locals. That's all I'll say. Let me get the local link.

SPEAKER_12 57:58

This is gonna be a doozy on locals. We'll do it on locals. We're not gonna do it over here. Ant is splitting the $5,000 Super Bowl winnings with the free yeah, don't say that. That's not true.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Absolutely. Locals is ant plus more alcohol and shoes. Yeah, cigars right, cigar mode's right. Like, stop being cheap, just come over there. Like, we have so much more fun over there. You guys like all the things I want to say over here, and I'm like, I'll save it for locals. That's what we do over there. Please make a flamingo logo, flamingo minus.

SPEAKER_12 58:43

I can't believe we said that over here. Oh man, oh, Molly's excited, Molly's ready to spill.

SPEAKER_11 58:52

Someone says not, I'm not contributing to Anthony's boat and lobster tails. Yeah, we don't do a good job coming off as uh in need.

SPEAKER_02 59:03

Listen, I'm not asking for any handouts for being out of work, but I will ask for you guys to come over to locals. It honestly, I ask anybody that's on locals if they're disappointed in the locals shows.

SPEAKER_11 59:14

That's really no ask anyone except Don if they're disappointed in the locals.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Yeah, has any local subscriber ever regretted coming over to locals? That's what I want to know. I didn't root for anybody, I didn't care. I wanted zero, zero and three, zero. I don't care. That's the other thing. We can talk about the Super Bowl. Like everybody's I don't give a crap about the Super Bowl halftime show at all. Taffy, I will I will absolutely send you lobster. We definitely, we definitely own it. We owe them lobster for we owe you lobster. So you mean you will talk behind the scenes and I will have lobster shipped to you. Even Fed Fed the Protestant, it's a lot of fun over there. That's a good question. We could talk about this. Um, is Carrie the anti-Erica? Yeah, I promise you guys locals makes up for the YouTube portion.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:08

A terrible YouTube portion, we make up for it on locals. Okay, you might have regretted Wagner's locals, but we're not gonna just like rattle off the suma to you on our locals, so it's more enjoyable.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

There is no way anybody has a better locals than us. Not what there's not another show that has a better locals than all right. That we've done enough promos.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:26

Come over there, Roberts promised to Taffy 3,000 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

I'm getting I am getting Taffy Lobster. I will I will set it up tonight and I will send it there. Um y'all eating lobster and she to make the locals free.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:42

Whatever, Paul. Get off your H1B visa and pony up.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

Uh we should offer uh we should we should do some kind of a contest where we give a free local sub out. Would it because it doesn't cost us anything to give a free local sub out.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:02

You have to do it like three times a week for someone.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

Yeah, I mean, we any seminarians. If you're a seminarian or a priest, if you're a seminarian or a priest and you watch our show, message me. I mean, you gotta prove it. You can't just say it, you gotta prove it somehow. But yeah, anytime seminarians reach out to us, we always throw them a free local sub. Anytime a priest reaches out, we always throw them a local sub. Um, read up and if you're honestly he's a sophomore in high school, dude. Hook him up. Ocean is sophomore in high school, dude. Hook this kid up, we'll get him a free local sub.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:36

Ocean email me at uh Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. Let me know what email you sign up to look at.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Well, I always give people Rob at avoiding Babylon. That's why you're not getting the emails.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:49

It's Robert or team. Team at avoidingbabylon.com or Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. But sign up for locals. It you can sign

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SPEAKER_11 1:02:00

up for free. Tell me what email you use, and I'll give you a I'll give you a free sub. We did a pam acker. You're right. You're right. But she is not an eager. She's not an e-girl. Come on, man. She's a scientist, she's the opposite standard. Oh, I just got a uh I got a text from uh one of the uh gentlemen we were in Pennsylvania with, and he just ordered knickknack. He said, Hope you're all hope you all are happy, you drug peddlers.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:30

Todd.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:31

Yeah Todd be Todd. Yeah, it was Todd.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

I was not gonna name names, but it was Todd. Todd, Todd. We love Todd. Todd's awesome. All right, we're going over to the other side. I think we should hook up if you're in high school and you you're living at home with your parents. I think we could make an exception. I say we hook up ocean.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:49

If you're a priest or seminarian, not a bishop, if you're a bishop, you pay double. Um, if you're high schooler or if you're a Protestant thinking of converting, possibly. How about that? Not you, Fed. You've already paid up.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

Yeah, no, stop that. Yeah, stop giving all these free local subs out. That's it. That's enough. How many of your family members have I given free local sub to?

SPEAKER_11 1:03:11

Margo says I'm a high school seminarian. Margo, we know your husband's a lawyer, you're not getting a free sub.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:18

Oh man, no, because if you already pay for it, you can afford it. Somebody said giving it away.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

Wait, what'd she say? Giving it away is not how you end up with people you can't. That's true. That's a good thing. Giving it away is how you end up with people you can't trust. Yeah, no more.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:35

Uh, it is Robert at avoidingbabylon.com. If that doesn't work for some reason, team at avoidingbabylon.com.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

All right. Everybody else, stop being cheap and just chip in five bucks. I promise you this show especially will be worth it. Just come on, come over to the other side. Oh, you guys, you guys are rats over there, actually. Uh, we're gonna get into we'll talk about one of you local subs ratted me out. Can't trust any of you. Molly's right. No more free, you know what? No more free locals. That's how we get rats in there. All right, we're going over to the other side. Play the outro, Rob.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:20

Today the Matt will show a sex scandal among conservative influencers perfectly illustrates why many young men are reluctant to get married.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:28

Wow, this is my chance.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:32

No, as Christians, we don't do cancel culture, we do cover culture. He says, never forget that it is a sin for you to uncover the nakedness of your brother. You are expected to cover your brother's nakedness and to not put him to shame publicly. When you could cover his nakedness, you could deal with the situation privately, and you you respect the honor and the dignity and the good name of your because we're all entitled to our good name. He said, You have to cover the nakedness of your brother, of your sister.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:07

Right? Why are you like this?

SPEAKER_09 1:05:14

Wow, this is my chance. Five minutes later.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:48

I just got that email from Ocean, so let me get an account set up before he misses anything.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:54

That manager thing at the end is a very much.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:00

And that video hasn't been uh available for you to watch and approach. I watched it, but I think I tuned out before the Benadryl bit. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

See, that's what happened to me with that one. That one. They make it flamingo logos.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:16

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:18

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:20

They make it flamingo logos. Oh my goodness. Hold on. Hold on. I gotta get I gotta get Ocean setup. Give me a second.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:31

Oh my goodness, the pedatrill is a bit much, Taffy.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:38

There's always something that's a bit much. Well, that's what that was a part of the Sarah Sak thing. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Voice of Reese. That was a first off, that wasn't AI, him sitting with those guys. No, that was real. Yes. So, like there was AI mixed in at the beginning and the end, but that main segment of him sitting with those two other guys talking about covering your nakedness. I think that was so I don't know the full context of that conversation, but I think he was basically giving crap to the people who talked about his scandal, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:07:16

That's what it seems like, or it might have been about the Sarah Stock stuff. Yeah, you know, that's that would be what he used to justify talking about that, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

Um, no, ocean. Uh Jim said ocean is probably a loaded boomer. No, ocean has been on the show. Ocean is uh young black guy. Yeah, it's a young black guy. Uh Konomi is also we have a few black uh viewers, got a lot of Spanish viewers. I know that. Like well, most of our audience isn't white, I think. I think I think the majority of our audience is just uh Apple reviews, though, Rob. There's some new Apple reviews. Okay, give me a second. Ah man, maybe we'll all right. So we'll do the Apple review, maybe we'll post it as uh short. Yeah, pull up the Apple reviews and we'll post it as a short on the YouTube channel. That's what we'll do.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:09

Okay, let me pull

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SPEAKER_11 1:08:10

that up here.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:11

Um hundred and forty-five people in locals right now, so but we do have to get into flamingo drama. We don't have Frank Bett doesn't know that's Pelican Plus. We're we're we're codename codenaming Pelican Plus Flamingo. Anthony is one of my favorite black entertainment entertainers. Uh and we also should do we also should do set sede drama over here because I know there's a ton of sets that are watching in the I wonder why I was catching catching strays when you started it this time.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:48

It is kind of well penadrillos.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:56

You guys are sick. Um, what are we doing first?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:01

What are you bringing up, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:09:02

I have um I have two Apple reviews up, two reviews.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:05

All right, so all right, so these are gonna be shorts on the YouTube channel. There's two new Apple reviews. We'll put these as shorts. Let's I don't I haven't read them. I haven't read them. A bottle. Anybody calls me a botto, we know they're uh we know they're uh setting. Jim Jim's not a sede, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:20

Okay, so um oh my gosh. It's a good thing one it's a very good thing. We're doing one of these here on locals. The first one discount Opie and Anthony. These two want to riff like the radio legends, but they spend all of their time talking about typology and the elder brother because of this show. I got addicted to nicotine and requisite wine. Stop it, it's gay. Five stars.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:48

That's all we want. We want the five stars, guys. Just you can say anything you want, just leave us five stars. What's next?

SPEAKER_11 1:09:55

Um, low IQ black and high IQ white. These two are super duper evil and mean to Jews. Now I'm stuck watching videos about fake gas chambers on Rumble and talking about the chosen people while my family stares at me like I'm a crazy person. Five stars. Five stars, that's all we want. No sound. Wait.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:19

Who said no sound?

SPEAKER_11 1:10:20

Ocean ocean says no sound.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:24

Got a review from Anthony Kumey.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:27

Everyone else can hear us, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

Ocean, you gotta that's on you, bud. Everybody else hears us.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:34

Great flavored pouches mixed with wine. So someone says, Ocean, you gotta replace the smoke detector battery.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:57

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:59

You guys are vicious. Um, but Nick isn't on the show anymore. Yeah, I think it's a good one.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:06

Speaking of Nick Oh boy, here goes. Now hold hold on. Speaking of Ant. Don't say anything I told you tonight. No, no, no, no, I know that. But speaking of Nick, I haven't seen him putting stuff out lately. I think January 23rd was the last video I saw in Pelican.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

What's going on with what's going on with Nick?

SPEAKER_11 1:11:34

I don't know. I was supposed to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

I was gonna text him and reach out to him and make sure he's okay because it doesn't look like he's like participating in Pelican. Like you know, I don't know what's going on there. But um I'm hearing there's look the thing is uh I'm I'm um I'm hearing there might be gossip going on about Rob and I behind the scenes, but the thing is like we've gossiped about them, so you kind of gotta give some leeway, you know. Like I don't know how much of what we say gets back or what you know, so I right, but I know what we say is true, whereas what I hear from them is not by not from them, from one person in particular. From yeah, somebody may somebody's making insinuations that are just preposterous. One of them, I mean, we can't really say publicly what he what was said, no, don't but one of them was so preposterous that almost seemed like they were trying to put a wedge between Rob and I, and um and it's just like that's insane.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:54

Like that's just totally insane.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

Um no, we're not secretly gay, but we're uh we we do have a business partnership that is never going to be broken by you know, there's never there basically, um man, how do you how do you dance around that one? Uh basically insinuating that like uh one of us is whatever trying to trying to trying to get more than the other person. It's just stupid, stupid stuff that's going up. But that's being said, but I don't know. I'm I'm worr I'm curious about what's going on with Nick because I haven't seen Nick on Pelican much. And um yeah, I don't know, but it's weird because they got I mean they just they just brought on Chris Ferrar. But I don't know how everything's working over there.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:47

I don't know. I don't know what's going on. It's like I don't I don't I just don't know what's going on over there. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:55

I mean like the the best thing they could do, and didn't share the 16,000 with Rob. Um Nick's been doing a civil war day by day thing on Facebook.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:09

Um yeah, I've been seeing that on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:14

All right, Nick's on Facebook? How old is he? Why is he on Facebook? Is that like his place to go?

SPEAKER_11 1:14:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:21

I might have to I might have to call Nick and just touch base with him and see how he's doing. It's weird because it it ended the last communication I had with Nick was not great. It wasn't great.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:35

When was that before or after the it it

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SPEAKER_11 1:14:40

was when he went on Joe McLean's show?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:41

Remember when we were on Joe McLean's show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Like he made those like subtle little digs at us. Well, but now we're finding out that that's potentially because of what was told to him because somebody told him something that wasn't true, yes. And um, I think like Nick might be upset because somebody said that I said something I didn't say, or whatever. But it like I left it all. He so he made some he made some subtle digs at me on Joe McClane's show, and then uh I I I remember what did he oh no, you know what it was. Remember, he wrote that whole thing out about all the different groups, and he's like grouper Catholic, and he talked about us. Yeah, it was on Facebook he did it, yeah. And I was like annoyed by it. Yeah, I was really annoyed by it, and I was just like, What a shitty little thing to do, like, why would you do that? And I and I texted him, I was like, If you want, like, I'll talk to you about this if you want to talk about it. And he was like, No, man, I was just upset, and uh he's like he was like, No, man, I obviously meant it in humor, and if you're taking it seriously, there's no need for us to even talk, it's fine. And he just kind of ended it, and like he didn't want to talk to me. Like, I told him I was gonna call him and we would talk, and he didn't want to talk, but like you said, it might be because he's hearing things that never happened behind the scenes. So the thing is, like, I love Nick, like I I do, I care about his well-being, I want to make sure he's okay. So I'm gonna have to reach out to him and just see how he's doing. Um, he was annoyed when you had Gordon on to talk about the new Pope. That that was definitely that definitely did, yeah, because we I hadn't had Nick on in a while, and then I did, and I was like, oh Nick, come on, we'll and we'll have a talk. And then Gordon wound up coming on, and then Brian Holdsworth wound up coming on, and Nick kind of felt like the odd man out because Nick didn't want to talk about the Pope. That was what that was what was weird about the Nick thing. Because Nick started saying things on his channel that seemed like they were criticisms of what we were doing on our channel while he was doing on our channel. It's like he was still coming on our channel, and then he would do a video on his channel. It seemed like they were criticisms of what we were doing on our channel, and uh, and I was just like, Nick, um maybe it's just like okay, if we just you know take a little bit of a breather. I said, You you know, I don't you're clearly going through some stuff right now and trying to figure some things out. And he seemed like he wanted to get away from any kind of criticism, criticism of church and any kind of stuff like that. So I was like, that's fine, you know. Like me and Rob weren't really doing that anyway. Me and Rob just kind of talk about whatever, and uh I was like, We'll take we'll take a little breather. So there was a couple of weeks where he hadn't come on, and I was like, All right, let's bring Nick back on. And the first time I brought him back on wound up being right after the Pope was elected. And me and him were gonna talk about how maybe we're being too harsh on the new Pope, and then Gordon came on and lambasted me, and then Holdsworth wound up jumping on. That wound up being a huge show.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:52

Meanwhile, I'm at a hotel like four hours away, not able to jump in and do anything.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

Do anything, yeah. And Nick, I think Nick, when Gordon came on, Nick Gordon like kind of pressed Nick a bit. He was like, You're the resident Thomas, like, what do you think about that? And Nick, I think was just kind of like put up put off, and like he didn't know what to say because he was he was trying to withhold from criticizing the Pope and all this stuff, and he was just like, you know what? I'm gonna let you guys do your thing, which was totally fine. Um, and then that show became what it came became, but then after that, we went to Detroit to do the Pelican thing. That was this was that was all before Pelican. And then the Pelican thing happened, yeah. And then we went out to Detroit and we were hearing Pelicans pitch out. And by the end of that weekend, Rob had left early because he had to get back to work, and I was left there alone for for 12 hours. You were there alone for 12 hours. Well, the last night, you weren't there for the last night, and like I had some private conversations with somebody there, and my conversations with that person were one thing, and they were presented as something totally different. Like my conversations were about something involving me and Rob together, and they were they were pitched as if I was angling for something without Rob or whatever. It's just it was absurd. But there's just there's yeah, the I don't know, man. I I I I I wanted nothing but success for those guys over there, but the idea that Nick is a founding member, and for him to not be posting content has me thinking things are so great over there.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:37

Yeah, it would suck to see um see any of these guys, those guys like go down with the ship if I went and goes down.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

Yeah, I don't want that at all. My you know what the the one I'm the saddest about is Kennedy, man, because Kennedy was my friend. Like, I talked to Kennedy regularly, like Kennedy and I talked a lot. I I would talk to Kennedy like weekly behind the scenes, like we would have conversations all the time.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:01

And it was weird that that just disappeared.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:04

He didn't even tell me to ask me why we said no, nothing.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:07

Like he well, yeah, but now you realize it was probably because he was lied to, lied to, you know, you that you said no because of whatever reasons were given.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

Kennedy, but like the reality had nothing to do with that, and now I haven't spoken to Kennedy since since then. And Kennedy has had a rough year, like his wife lost the baby and all this. I'm like, I freaking love Kennedy

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SPEAKER_02 1:20:30

Hall. I don't I don't know, and it's like the the crazy thing is if this person hadn't said negative things about me to Kennedy, I would have been like, come on our show and let's promote Pelican for you guys. Like, I wanted the best for them, so I would have absolutely helped them. And it just I don't know now, there's bad blood between all of us. It's weird. Yep, very odd. Not on our part, like you know. I mean, we do we do talk a little bit to you guys about it, but I've never said anything publicly to to be negative, or I've never countersignaled them, I've never led anybody to say anything negative about them. I want I want them to succeed. You said no for whatever reasons. This is why I picked the locals to get the real scoop. I'm trying to give you guys as much as I can.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:19

So someone, someone on on the YouTube video just commented. Hold on, let me get get to it. Uh, do I regret locals? Sort of. They spend more than half the time talking about how great the show is and how unique they are. Then they berate the audience complaining how cheap we are. They rarely talk about what they say they will. I'm not sure I renew, and I replied, You're supposed to end it with five stars.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:47

Five stars, that's all I was waiting for. Five stars. How do you not end that with five stars? Because I think they might be serious.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:58

Um, so the rat last time. So, okay, so the last local show, Rob leaves early, and I'm like, all right, I'll hang with you guys a little bit. And we were all talking about who is going to go on Tucker Carlson, and Rob left. And as soon as Rob left, I was like, I'll tell you guys who's going on Tucker Carlson. And I tell you guys, and then somebody goes and runs and tells Robins as soon as you left.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:22

So, what it is, I I get a telegram message. That was Friday night, so I wake up Saturday morning. I get I have a telegram message from someone, and they're like, So, so who is it who's gonna be on who who uh who's gonna be on Tucker? Is it I forget who they guess, and I'm like, and and then they had just messaged right after that. Never mind, Anthony just said, and I'm like, I'm and I'm thinking back, I'm like, do that. Like I'm like, Anthony. I just woke up. I'm like, Anthony just said what we we didn't say who who it was on the show, and they go, Well, yeah, you didn't, but he said it as soon as you left. I don't care, he's coming out.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:00

It's gonna be can I say it? Well, you already did. I said it, yeah, it's father ripper. Father Ripper's going on Tucker, that's gonna be an awesome like because we're always complaining about the Catholics going on Tucker, but Father Ripper is gonna be a good one, yeah, for sure. I think so.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:17

I think I think Ripper will be an awesome one, especially if Tucker brings up the whole incident where he thinks he was attacked by a demon. It'd be cool to get Ripper's take on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:31

Okay, so Ripper already catches so much crap from every like from all the normal the Mike Lewis's and all those guys, right? Do you know the crap storm he's going to catch after going on with Tucker?

SPEAKER_11 1:23:45

Think how many episodes we'll get to make out of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:48

Yeah, we're gonna we're we're definitely going to do a review of Tucker and Father Ripper, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:23:55

Um, oh man, we I wish we could figure out exactly what day that's gonna be so we can prepare to have a review show that night.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:07

I think, yeah, so somebody's uh Nick's saying I think Tucker's a little sus. I think so too, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:12

Um, he I mean he's sus on the way you should be suspicious of everyone that has been that successful in media.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:21

Yeah, do we know when the Rippiger episode comes out? No, like no idea.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:26

It's like it's we were told by the our source who told us specifically not to ever say anything about this, but Anthony Corson. Yeah, he's not on he's not on locals.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:38

Told us it would be you're worse than me. You're a bad influence. Oh my goodness, you're worse than me.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:51

Well, it was like a month ago. We would we were told it'd be a few weeks, so it should be it should literally be any day, any week now. I hope so.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, the uh the scene this week.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:03

It was cool to see Fawaz get uh tweeted out by UWTN. That was cool. That was cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:10

Pop pop uh pop church church pop did an interview with it, church pop, yeah, yeah, yeah. Church pop did an interview with them. Um yeah, everyone does know Fawaz is the hookup, that's true. Um so yeah, Tucker's write on a lot. It's man, I don't, I don't, I just don't know clear lights flickering. I have uh uh like a uh heater down here, a um uh space heater, and every

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SPEAKER_02 1:25:40

time it kicks on, it kind of flickers the lights.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:42

Everyone's saying that they knew it was foraz. Yeah, it wasn't hard to figure out who told you guys when he's on Father Ripper's on.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:49

Yeah. Uh Middle Eastern Catholic rapper goes to SSPX and his friends with Father Rippiger. Fawaz is literally uniting all the coins. So the Sede War I started, I don't I forgot what happened. It was on Super Bowl night.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:09

No, you was on a show, it was on one of those shows with TLM Ryan or something, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:15

Well, no, that I mean the I here's what's odd about those guys, man. Other than that they're odd. They just can't, they have no chill, man. Like, like I got forget forget like Setipante and stuff like they're whatever, but and even even Tommy, like I've never said a negative thing about Tommy. The only thing I've ever said about Tommy is he's hilarious. These guys talk about me like I'm the biggest heretic on the planet. Anyone who listens to a body is like he saying I have bad will and that my fiat, it's like, dude, we're all looking at a problem, we're all looking at a crisis, and we all come to different conclusions. Now, if you guys can't chill and have a conversation about it, when I was on with TLM Ryan that night, I said, Can a non-Catholic be Pope? And I said yes. I didn't mean a Catholic that's not like not a non-baptized Catholic. They said, like, well, what if a Protestant becomes like, no, I don't mean like that. I mean if a validly Catholic, like a validly baptized Catholic went through all the sacraments, can I basically meant can a heretic be pope?

SPEAKER_11 1:27:26

And I said, Yes, a heretic can be pope. There's no way we haven't had one before Francis.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:32

That's that's all. I mean, even before the council, we've had heretic popes. That was my position. And they took what I said to this is this is heresy, and you're like, and I said, like, I said it to kind of like ignite a little yeah, I said it to troll them a bit.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:51

I was gonna say you need to take your advice that you gave to Joe. You can't be upset when you got the exact reaction you were.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Planning to, I'm not upset, it's that they they twisted what I said. I they knew what I meant. What I meant was can a heretic be pope? And I said, Can a non-Catholic be pope? And that's because people had posed that question to me about Francis can a non-Catholic be pope? And I had a hard time with that answer back then, right? But the truth is, I've a validly baptized Catholic who's gone through all the sacraments, becomes a bishop, and then gets elected pope and holds heretical views. Yes, the office still is maintained. That's my position, and that's a valid position to hold. Yeah, there's there's no ecumenical council that says otherwise. There's there's theories by theologians, but they're pretty equal on both sides of the issue, actually. Yeah, and it's you know, so for them to say I'm a heretic of bad will, it's I'm just at the point.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:58

I just want to know why you start a war with them again. And I haven't talked to them, talked about them in months now. And all of a sudden, I'm seeing tweets that I have anger issues.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

I mean, you do have anger issues, don't get me wrong, but not because of that. The what's crazy to me is these guys think they're going to insult you or some say something personal about you, and that I should just have no issue with that. And I I had said, You you guys want to bring a per you, you're you know, it's not like you're arguing against a thing Rob has said, you're taking these personal digs at my business partner and friend, and you think I'm they put me in a position where if I continue to have conversations with them, that makes me a bad friend to you at that point. It's it's there's there are some things where they can dislike you and they can have their opinions about you, but keep if you want me to maintain the conversation, you guys need to stop personally like making personal attacks on my friend, and I'll continue the conversation with you guys. That turns into them spazzing out. My issue with the sedes isn't their position. It's not it's not that they come to a different conclusion than me. I think that no, same here. I I don't care about that really the position itself. I I look at like, man, they could be right. My issue is their personal relationship problems, man. They they can't maintain a personal relationship with somebody who doesn't hold their exact view, which is why they infight with each other. It's why the Diamond Brothers hate this group and this group hates this group. They can't even maintain a solidified set of a contest position, and they think you're by talking to me, you're pretending I'm Catholic, as if holding that Pope Leo is an anti-pope is what makes you Catholic. I mean, that would make Protestants Catholic at that point. That's actually exactly yeah, that's it's cult-like behavior, right? It is you can't talk to a guy that doesn't agree with us. When how do you expect to hammer these issues out and have like real conversations about it if you're saying you can't even talk to a guy who differs on opinion than you? Now, I'm not a theologian of any kind. I I come on and I try to have and I go on, like I will go on with Kevin Davis and have a normal conversation. We both understand you disagree with me, I disagree with you. We can start getting into some of these questions now, and and still have respect for the other person. Like we're both recognizing this is the crisis, the crisis starts at the council. You hold that these popes are not valid popes. I hold that they can be they there can be heresy and there and that that office still holds. And what what makes it so horrific is that these are priests of the most high God saying things that are uh against what the church has always held.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:16

Um Daryl here has an interesting comment that I hadn't thought of before, but um forget cult like it reminds me of a misspent youth in Trotsky Trotskyist Marxism, and actually, yeah, their um their behavior is um is is actually very Bolshevik in nature, like it they purity spiral it to no end. They they will absolutely eat their own given the first chance, right? Like and they're all into these weird struggle sessions with that with everyone. I mean, it really is um, yeah, it it they they do act like communists, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:02

It's I they are their own worst enemy. It it's they make it so that nobody wants to be associated with them because I I would probably mainstream their ideas more if they weren't such a-holes, they are just they don't have the ability to separate ideas from people, and it uh the one that disappoints me the most is Tommy because I don't even know who he is, the kid that runs the Fuke account. I really like he's a funny young guy, man. He he really is, he's funny, he makes good jokes, he's just he's a former Mormon. He was a morning, he goes from one cult into another, and he has that same cult-like behavior, and he starts blocking me. And I got pissed when I saw the block because I've never said a negative word about it, but then he goes and he gets all the other sedties riled up about me and calls and and says all these things about me, and it's like, man, I I would love to be able to just be cool with you guys, but like their insistence is that we're not Catholic. We're he calls us bread worshippers. It's like are you an idiot? The yes, total idiot. He is an idiot, they are retarded, and they don't even most of them don't even go to uh a uh they don't even go to a CMRI or uh what like they don't even go to a parish, they're just online, they don't even go to the sacraments, and I'm telling you guys, I see what the difference in somebody who lives a sacramental life for someone who doesn't looks like because the set it like Kevin Davis, I can have a normal conversation with because Kevin Davis goes to the sacraments. Now, we may disagree about whatever we disagree about, but you can see he's like a well-rounded guy who's got a family and he's just living at his Catholic faith and he's disagreeing about theological arguments. Whereas these guys online that are fighting with me, I don't think they go to the sacraments. They're just they're they're Protestant, not in they're Protestant in that they think Catholicism is just an ascent to a set of beliefs.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

It's like, well, I believe this, this, and this, therefore, I'm Catholic and you're not. That's not what it means to be Catholic, man. Like being Catholic is a way you live your life, and the sacraments are a very big part of that. And I see how well rounded my family life is. I see how well-rounded my children are, I see how well rounded my whole life is, and it's because of the sacraments. So you may disagree and call the novus ordo uh different religion, you can say whatever you want, but I know that my family is very well rounded, and like we are we have healthy relationships. None of you seem to be able to say the same thing.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:55

Yeah, there seems to be very little um very little sanctification going on in their lives.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:02

Yeah, somebody said I I think a lot of them struggle with the sixth and ninth commandment. You know, I don't want to uh whatever. Uh I'm sorry, but as a Protestant in a word in a word church using the Schofield Bible, I discovered the scripture. I discovered the scripture that says that knowledge of the word. Wait, it's going past me. Knowledge of the word puffs up, and it is so true. I saw it a lot and I fell into it myself. So it was a fantastical toe mist. He has to watch. It's hard, it's just hard for me to read this. That it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:35

I think they're talking about Nick. They're calling Nick a pedantic, insufferable and a bore. Nick Pavazos? Yeah, and that's why he hasn't found a woman to pursue. He's puffed up and full of pride. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:59

I I I am a better reader than that. It's hard to read on this stupid thing because it keeps going. Every time you comment, it it just like flies up, and I'm trying to trying to catch it. So um I think yeah, there's there's something about what we even talked about last week with um uh holding up new converts as as people who can we we even talked about it tonight with this. Like new new converts coming in, and I love I love new converts and I love their zeal for the faith, but there's gotta be uh a period of you you shouldn't jump into the public life as a public Catholic yet. And I think that's why especially with this Carrie lady, I was saying, don't like don't do it, guys. Don't bring her on your show. This girl knows very little about Catholicism. She she's even Candace, Candace doesn't know much about the Catholic faith. Like, she's she's she knows some of the main points, and she knows there's a history of enmity between Jews and Christians, but she like don't go to Candace for your theological perspective. Um, same thing with I'm not trying to dog him here, but Pine sap. Like Pine Sap's a convert, he's single, he's not he's not well rounded in the faith. And I've seen him spewing like prayer advice to people. It's like Pine sap, you shouldn't like you can't you don't belong giving advice on the on the on the spiritual life and prayer life. You could you could talk about how Catholicism is influenced you and stuff, but you gotta you gotta you gotta stay in your lane, man. Like that's not it's not a knock to him. I'm not trying to trash him. It's just people have to understand their lane. Like the the the only time time Rob and I will go deep on a topic is if I'm well versed in it. I'm not going to start diving into areas where I have no business talking.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:07

Um frickin' Chris.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:13

What is Chris doing now?

SPEAKER_11 1:39:14

Well, you he you know, he interviewed Scott Hahn's son. Yeah. Well, he got a Scott Hahn posted it on his Facebook. Good for him.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:29

How was that interview? I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:34

I I don't know. I don't watch anything. I'm sorry. Anything good from it or I don't know. I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:42

Oh good for Chris. I want to see all these guys do good. I'm not, you know. Um I just like give them a hard time.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:52

Come on, guys, give us topics about well, you were gonna tell us about how um your uh your sister's uh baby daddy almost got in a fight again. So okay, so well now hold on. Is this the guy who uh broke your finger?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:10

No, that's that's the coles side. That's the coles cousin. Okay, okay. Um, this is me and my my me my sister, one of my sisters is with a guy, she has a kid with them, they're not married yet, and he's a like a militant atheist. And there's just always it's like there can never just be like a light-hearted, fun night where because I always make an off-handed comment that he has to give me uh an interrogation on, and that always turns into a commentary on religion somehow. So, like this one was about um I think it might have been on race or something, and I was talking about like immigrants coming in and the and the reason that the the immigrants coming in are because a lot of them are coming from non-Christian countries, and he's like, I don't understand why this has anything to do with with Christianity. And I'm like, Well, you you say that because you're you live in a in a country with a Christian culture, like even if you're not of yourself a believer, you take for granted all of the Christian ethics that are just baked into what it means to be an American, that you think stealing is wrong, you think you should treat others how you want to be treated, and all these different things. Where when you're bringing people in from the third world who don't have the same moral foundation that you do, they come here and they then want to fleece the system for everything they can, and it just it was just shouldn't have been a deep conversation like that. Like Bobby's there, Bobby comes, he's there with my sister. My sister invites my other sisters over, and my other sister has her boyfriend there, and then my my older sister was there too, and I get there and Bobby, and I'm like, Bobby, I don't I don't think I'm gonna come. I was like, me and like me and Nicole home alone, we don't get too many nights alone. Like, I think we're just gonna hang back and watch a movie, and he's like, dude, please, please come.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:17

Please come.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:18

I'm like, you gotta be like, No, no, no. If you're gonna be part of this family, I'm not always gonna be there. You gotta learn, boy, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:25

I told so so I go, and it just like right away, it just the conversation gets heavy as soon as I get there. And I it's like it it's always looked at like I brought this upon the whole situation, but I have opinions, everybody knows my opinions, and then they start pressing me on my opinions, and I'm going to say my opinions. So I wound up saying, you know what, before this gets tense, let me let me get out of here. So I leave, and I just I talk to Bobby after he leaves, and I'm just like, Well, you got a real dose in a body family dynamics this weekend, didn't you? Bud, and he's like, Yeah, man, you left me there alone. I don't know what to tell you, dude.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:07

Well, you should have done it as you were leaving. You should have been like, Bobby actually completely agrees with me. Talk to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:13

Oh, believe me, I left, and Bobby had like a theological debate with one of my sisters, and I'm like, Bob man, dude.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:21

What direction to do sound of the cross?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:23

I have I have one, I have one sister who's always saying the phrase, God told me. No, and that's a rough one, man. God has never told you anything in your life. I and I and that's how I am about it. It's it's like, what do you mean, God told you, man? Like, what do you mean God told you?

SPEAKER_11 1:43:39

Like, most most of the saints and popes never made claims that God spoke to them.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:44

I tell me God in general. I don't, you know, like in general, people that say, Well, God, like, because you see it in public all the time, especially for Protestants. Protestants, like, God told me, God told me. It's like God didn't tell you that. Like, what do you mean? God didn't tell you on Facebook.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:58

I saw someone that we that Hope used to work with that goes to a church nearby that has uh speakers come who call themselves apostles and prophets, so it's that type of church. And I saw on Facebook the other day, she says something like God likes to speak to me with in poetry. And he he left it, he he spoke to me in this poem the other time. I'm like, What no, no way, lady. God doesn't speak to you in shitty poetry. Yeah, the only the only time I've ever felt that oh wait, chat just is realizing you're letting your sister date a bis larper.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:37

Yeah, this is gonna be an issue. We'll we'll we'll have to work through it, but better him than you know, we'll have to figure this out.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:46

But at least he's not a Mexican Biz Larper, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:51

Um the the times I've had like profound prayer experiences have been in things that uh like confirmed me in my Catholicism. Like what one was um I've told I've talked about it, like when I when I was reading first John and I felt like the words were like actually coming off the page when reading in the beginning was the word and the word was with God. Like that was one. Another was um I I was doing I was like doing uh uh spiritual reading, and that turned into mental prayer, and it was just um meditating on what the body of Christ is and understanding how like the body of Christ is the Eucharist and it's the church and it's Christ Himself, and like I had a really profound um like revelation almost, like where I really understood it, but I've never had God like tell me something, like I've never you know what I mean. It's uh it's always like confirming Catholic belief, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 1:45:57

It's never or like um some sort of revelation that hits like your reason, right? Like, yeah, I've never heard a voice in my head that I believed was God, and if I ever do, I'm gonna seriously start to worry.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:15

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, and and anything that's gonna and if anything I had ever heard from God contradicted Catholicism, I'd like red flags would go up immediately. Right, none of that ever happened to me. It was always whether it was the oh, another one would have been like um the coronation of Our Lady when I'm praying the rosary. I've had some really profound, deep meditations on our lady being crowned queen of heaven that have like just deepened my relationship with our lady, but never never had God tell me, like Anthony, you should do this. Nothing, nothing ever like that. Uh, somebody's asking if I saw the whole uh I heard the whole podcast. Um uh I Anthony, you shared the clip of the Marion Friars about Tim Gordon's documentary on women. Did you listen to the whole thing or just hear that clip? I heard that clip, I heard a little bit more than that. I did not hear the entire podcast. But from what I read in the comments, most people were like, it doesn't sound like you're disagreeing with Tim or anything. It sounds more like you're disagreeing with his presentation of it. Like they were even like reading all the things from past popes and things like that. And and that's a fair assessment of Tim sometimes. Sometimes Tim presents things that sound sound harsh, but if you are listening to what he's saying, they're not that unreasonable. They're actually it's just his pre people just didn't like his presentation sometimes. And did I watch the documentary? Yes, I did watch the documentary. Um, I saw the dot I saw Tim's documentary about a year ago. Tim sent me the documentary right after it was finished, uh, right after he did all the Rippiger interviews and everything. He sent it to me then. So I got to I got to see it very early on. Um yeah, the the priest was like, it's not necessarily wrong what he's saying. Yeah, like Mrs. Casey doesn't like him. Um they don't like his tone. Tim does curse a lot. Um like I get people not liking his presentation of stuff, but when you get down to what he's actually saying, it's not wrong. Uh my tone's much better than Tim's. Uh all right, so uh solitary is asking me how he gets a girlfriend. Um I don't know if we ever do a meetup, come on the meetup. My wife. What'd you want to say? I didn't say it.

SPEAKER_13 1:49:03

Not in chat. No, it is. What did you say? Went too fast.

SPEAKER_11 1:49:16

What's age blight thirteen? Why don't I say it? Uh Father Modsley will uh definitely eventually be back. But he did say something along the lines the last time we spoke to him about him wanting to do less on video for a while.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:40

So yeah, but I think if I reached out to him, he'd come back on. Especially for yeah, especially for a Lenton something for Lent, like and because Mosley's amazing when he's not talking about the JQ, also like you talk to Mosley about anything, and he's great on it. So I think if if we did some kind of a deep reflection with him, I think you'd Tim was crying about people not liking that he curses today. He called you out, Aunt. He called you out too, Aunt. Did he? For what? For saying that we don't like the curses. I don't care that Tim curses. I don't know. I I think that he turns people off with it. He's dropping F-bombs on a stream. Like you're just gonna lose people when you do that. I don't care what he does. I think it is one of those things where if you uh if you curse too much, you lose your filter in the wrong place, though. You know, there's there's appropriate times and inappropriate times to curse. And I think on a stream isn't you know, it's different if if we're on locals and it slips out, but I don't think you should get into the habit of cursing on stream, especially when there are people listening thinking they're listening to a Catholic show, they might have their kids in the car. They should be able to listen and not worry that Rob's gonna drop an F-bomb. You I'm sorry, I'm just saying. I'm sorry. It is hard to not curse, though. I mean, I work around truck drivers, so but I'm pretty good about it on this show. I I'm pretty intentional about when I curse on this show. Uh hey guys, been a local subscriber for a few months now. Just wanted to thank you guys for the show. I don't have a lot of people in my life that take their faith seriously, so this has been a great place to learn, but also be entertained. Also, just started OCIA recently and convinced my mom to do it with me. That is awesome. That's man, that's great to hear. Um, yeah, I hope that's what this show is for you guys. Uh a place where we talk about the I mean, we you know, the past two episodes, maybe not so much, but that's why for Lent I want to be very intentional about what we talk about. Um, I'm going to be doing some reading going into Lent. I'm gonna give up uh watching any kind of TV or anything, and I will spend my I won't I won't I will spend my evenings reading uh whether that's scripture or a good book. All right, so solitarious wants dating advice. What kind of dating advice do you want? It it's how old are you first off? How old are you? Give me give me give me give me your rundown. What what is your rundown?

SPEAKER_11 1:52:26

Yeah, because I mean if you're if you're an if if you're like a a setting autist, sorry, there's no dating advice in the world that's gonna help.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:39

Don said, I don't want to hear all sorts of pious stuff during Lent.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:44

Uh Twitter does not own his reading.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:47

Yeah, give me a rundown of yourself. Like, how old are you? Uh, he's about to be 27. Are you a white male? You're Spanish, what are you? Come on, give me give me a rundown, not just 27. I need your rundown. Annally knows how to give high schoolers dating advice. Look, I accept Bobby. I have a feeling Bobby's gonna be my brother-in-law, I'll be honest. I have a feeling Bobby will marry my sister. I don't mean to blow his spot like that on here, but tough shit, Bobby. Well, Bobby, very intense, very intentional about that aspect.

SPEAKER_11 1:53:19

You might have to be my next child's godfather. Uh A B speed dating episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:29

No, I think that we should do um okay. We will really get called out by Tim if we do that. Well, we won't charge. We're not gonna charge. We're we're Bobby said he's probably right. Probably gonna be my brother. That would be so funny, man. Bobby comes on a uh comes on a whim to Italy because he couldn't go to the Holy Land. He wanted to go to the Holy Land, but the State Department wouldn't let him. So on a whim, he's like, Ah, I guess I'll go to Italy. Comes to Italy, meets meets his loudmouth, meets me. I mean, he came for me, but like we hit it off there. We come home, I'm like, yeah, come and hang out with my family. He comes and hangs out with my family like six or seven times, and this New Year's. I'm like, dude, six seven, huh? Probably five. Oh, six, seven. Oh, I'm not that young.

SPEAKER_11 1:54:20

Six, six, seven.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:22

Uh he come, he came over for for New Year's, and I was like, I told my sister, I was like, Oh, just come and meet my friend Bobby.

SPEAKER_11 1:54:28

Meanwhile, he's texting me a week beforehand. Hey, I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try hooking Bobby up with my sister.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:35

Yeah, I I had I I just figured, I mean, they're about the same age, they both take their faith seriously. Why wouldn't I put them together? Uh, Anthony, you could build my dating app profile.

SPEAKER_11 1:54:51

All right, so wait, did uh Pelican plus one coming soon?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:59

Avoiding flamingo.

SPEAKER_11 1:55:02

Oh no, that man says I'm canceling my local subscription for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:06

Oh no, avoiding flamingo. 27 can deadlift 400 pounds, about to be a PA soon. Uh physician's assistant. Uh dude, you could oh man. I I think we just gotta. I you know what we might have to do with him? Might have to meet him over at the the um the Friday night festival over in Stubbinville. Just tell him to come out. Yeah. The government is using Bobby to infiltrate the mob because Bobby's a fed. Uh I people have suggested this. There's no uh there's no feds thing. I tell my I tell I talk about my gambling, I talk about everything on air. You guys don't need an infiltrator.

SPEAKER_11 1:55:57

Well, the IRS now knows that you have 16,000 less dollars to less dollars report.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:03

All right, so ocean is 162, 167, black dreads, uh good at art and writing, and I sail. My wife's an artist, Ocean. Uh, you gotta find a good artist chick and and get her away from the uh crazy because my my wife if if it wasn't for me, my wife would have ended up like some crazy lib, she would have ended up with uh uh what's her balls.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:33

What's her balls? Well, no, um the one that tried to kiss her.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:39

Oh, with Avril Levine, yeah. She would have been with the lesbian with Avril Levine, Bobby Brasco.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:46

They're calling a Bobby Brasco.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:51

That's amazing, Bobby Brasco.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:54

Um, yeah, my wife was an artist and she went to the art institute in Chicago, and then she went to SVA in Manhattan. Um, but if it wasn't for me, she'd have ended up one of those loonies on a protest line protesting against the genocide in Gaza or something.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:16

Art chicks would have been like that Instagram reel of the never mind. Never mind.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:24

Yeah, I'm just saying, like that would have been my wife if it wasn't for me, but I I but like they may be nuts art chicks, but they're they're great, like they're fun and they they they're not uh boring, that's for sure. I think Anthony, I've been talking with this Catholic broad for a month. She seems nice. How do I tell her I like her, but she's not allowed to talk past APM?

SPEAKER_11 1:57:48

One, maybe hold off on the broad and tell you are with her for a little while.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:53

Why does anybody want me to watch uh Dark Secrets inside Bohemian Grove? I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:00

Um, yeah, dude, that's uh that's some interesting art. Um that is odd. That's interesting. My wife, I'll show that to my wife. That won't be.

SPEAKER_11 1:58:18

My wife is into like uh guys just hop hop a plane to LA and picks up a Mexican broad. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:32

I like the drawing, man. The drawing is drawing's pretty interesting. I like that. Sorry, I was just checking out his art. Um we save women from themselves. Bogus art, bogus order, art as it's best.

SPEAKER_11 1:58:52

I'm gonna say that could make the next Vatican Nativity scene.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:57

I know some black chicks for ocean, though. She might be a little older.

SPEAKER_11 1:59:05

Um I hear Gloria Purvis might.

SPEAKER_13 1:59:09

I don't know Gloria Purvis. Um Gloria Purvis?

SPEAKER_11 1:59:15

I know the name uh on the that rate the that Catholic morning radio show with uh Monsignor Pope and uh Deacon Harry Harry um Deacon um Harold um oh yeah yeah okay okay it's not funny if you don't thanks for ruining it.

SPEAKER_13 1:59:33

Yeah's a couple of Lakeas, Lakeas.

SPEAKER_11 1:59:39

Oh, we could we could use that website.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:47

Sorry, this trade I like ant room locals for everybody tonight, and I'm like if it's your first time, we apologize, guys. But we're still hanging. Like, what do you mean? I'm not in a rush to get out of here. You got work tomorrow, Rob. Yo, I have work every day. I don't have work.

SPEAKER_11 2:00:05

I'm bum, dude.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:06

We know you don't have work, I'm a bum right now. So I'll hang with you guys all night. I got nowhere to go.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:16

This is the content I pay for. What else are we doing tonight? Come on, we're just hanging. Let's see. Is there anything interesting on Twitter we can talk about? I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 2:00:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:27

Did I put anything else in the uh yeah? Oh, Todd texted me too. He said, Happy, hope you're all happy, you drug peddlers.

SPEAKER_11 2:00:35

Uh you put the FSSP thing in there, but that's boring. You put the Robert Craft's Blue Square Alliance thing in there, but we talked about the Jews.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:48

Um, yeah, telling me the children are not as oh, you want to do the uh you want to do the FSSP statement about the SSPX?

SPEAKER_11 2:00:54

No, because it's not an FSSP statement.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:57

Oh, it's just from a priest, it's from a single priest, single priest, yeah. And I know I hate the SSPX conversation, man. Um I know did we finish the John Deloney clips last time? Yes. No, we didn't do the last one, did we? Uh uh. Yeah, I think we did. I don't know, man. The last one, the end, because we cut it off. That was the five-minute clip. There is a there is an ending to that. You want to do the end of that John Deloney clip?

unknown 2:01:31

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:32

The end of the John Deloney clip we didn't do.

SPEAKER_11 2:01:36

You don't want me dropping F-bombs on here.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:38

It is fun to be mad at uh, it is fun to be mad at John Deloney. No, we didn't finish the John Deloney clip. It was one more.

SPEAKER_11 2:01:47

Oh, we were doing clip four.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:50

Oh, yeah. Okay, all right. Hold on, let me see. Let me look back in our list. I got let me see something. Hold on. I know what I gotta look at. Hold on, I got something for us.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:11

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_11 2:02:13

Huh. That is interesting. Someone just messaged me something saying, talk about this. And it's here, this this will be real quick, like okay. Yeah, if you got a clip to play, play it. Nope, not a clip. So here's Charlie Kirk, right? See the wedding photo up and to the left of him?

SPEAKER_13 2:02:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 2:02:36

Okay, here's Erica Kirk on the same set since then. She got rid of the wedding photo. That's sick. I mean, almost everything else is exactly the same.

SPEAKER_13 2:02:55

Hold on, I'm gonna find something. Hang on.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:58

It's been two hours. I know you want to go, but I got nowhere to be tonight. Well, I can't just let you go alone. You'll say something you shouldn't. All right, Rob, you can go. No.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:13

Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:16

We did the we did that.

SPEAKER_13 2:03:20

Hold on, let me see. I'll find something. Hold on, guys.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:29

Man, we did all the EBT stuff. That was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_11 2:03:32

Long time ago.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:34

No, I think I had um other John Deloney clips that we never played from a long time ago. Didn't we? Didn't we? Like, didn't I try that once before?

SPEAKER_11 2:03:48

Didn't we try what once before?

SPEAKER_02 2:03:50

We were going to do John Deloney clips once before. I like I screen recorded John Deloney clips once before.

SPEAKER_11 2:03:56

You've done it multiple times before. I'm not sure. And we never we never played them. I don't keep track of what we do and do not play.

SPEAKER_13 2:04:03

I know I'm trying to, I'm trying to see if I have them somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:13

All right, we might have run this one into the ground guide. I don't know what to tell you. Really, you think?

SPEAKER_13 2:04:22

I don't know. Let me see. What am I missing here in the chat? Um, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:29

Ojo, I kind of like your art, man. It's pretty cool stuff. That's Thomas Aquinas one is pretty cool. I like that Thomas Aquinas one. Yeah, dude. Do use your art for purpose. Like, um use it for purpose, not uh like be be careful not to fall into the modern art um rabbit hole where you just make art that is that people can look at and make of it what they want. Like, use your art for purpose that glorifies God. That's what all artists should be doing. All art should be to glorify God. Um Anthony, use your platform for good. Don't spread bigotry that the church has been fighting for 2,000 years. Bishop Barron. Oh, okay. Okay, Your Excellency. We haven't done a girls driving bad clip in a long time.

SPEAKER_11 2:05:32

No, we haven't. Um I saw I actually saw the perfect one today, and I almost was gonna send it. It's this guy. He's sitting at his desk and he's got the window there, and he opens the blinds, and there's a car up on another car. Like, like they had jumped. I don't know, it was a car leading up on another car, and he zooms the camera in to the driver, and it's an Asian lady driving, and just goes, of course it is.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:05

Well, well, well, of course it is.

SPEAKER_11 2:06:09

Oh, no, I'm not gonna play it. It was like 20 Instagram reels ago.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:14

Wait, I got a John Bellone clip in our messages.

SPEAKER_13 2:06:20

Oh, why is it not playing?

SPEAKER_12 2:06:27

What the heck? Is it too old? Probably.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:36

All right, wait a minute. Oh, I got a clip. I'm gonna send it to the Telegram. We're gonna play this. I don't know. We might have played it on the show once before, but I'm gonna send it to Rob anyway, and we're gonna play this and just go with it and see. All right, let's play this, Rob. I just sent it.

SPEAKER_11 2:06:54

All right, we'll end with this. Okay, the last time we played one of these clips, it was a 40-minute discussion.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:02

No, no, no, no, no. It's all right, don't worry. You got nothing to do tomorrow. Work, work schmerk. Hope's watching, hope's hanging out with us, we're all good.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:13

If you could give a single girl some dating advice, what would you say to her?

SPEAKER_06 2:07:17

How old? Let's say she's like 21. Oh, 21.

SPEAKER_11 2:07:24

We have played this, just bang them all.

SPEAKER_13 2:07:28

Bang them all because we have played this. All right, so what? Fresh commentary. Come on.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:34

Because men are so immature that you're not gonna you're not gonna lock anyone down. You're don't don't even start thinking yet about the husband stuff. But I will say bang dudes quietly, don't tell everybody, shut the up about it. Never mind.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:51

I hate women. Let's just end it. I was gonna say really, you're gonna make us. I can't. They're so evil and so bad. Somebody said it's a terrorist dog.

SPEAKER_11 2:08:11

Yeah, that was not worth all right, guys.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:14

I promise. So there's no Thursday show. Uh what? Rob, maybe I'll do you mean there's no Thursday show. I'm away. I'm going away. So I uh maybe I'll do maybe I'll do something tomorrow with a guest or something. You don't have to you don't have to sit through. Maybe I'll get like uh because I I do want to get um Catholic Esquire on. So maybe I'll do that tomorrow without you, unless you want to join. Absolutely not. All right, so I might jump on with like Catholic Esquire tomorrow. Let me see. Let me see if he's available or I might do something tomorrow. Uh, but don't hold me to it, guys. But I might if I if if I'm up to it. Um Dave Riley wants to do something with us, but he can only do daytime stuff. I don't know. I might uh he does the the backlash podcast. I don't know what that is. He's the one that's gonna get Carrie Prajon Bowler on. So um a voting battle. I don't know if you've seen, but Matthew 7.3. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye but don't notice the logo that is in your own? I think almost every time this verse is used in a conversation, it basically an F U, and this could be an interesting combo. Um 145 people stuck around with this. We'll watch anything. Well, we just had Fishburne, we just had Hitchborne on, so I'm not gonna get Hitchborne. I'm gonna try and see if um guys are so bad with the bad words. What's wrong with you guys? Um, what's the bottle story?

SPEAKER_11 2:10:01

Look at that little baby, my dear godfather.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:06

He got so big, dude. Yeah, he is. He got so big.

SPEAKER_13 2:10:11

Hi, Sebastian. He's a smiley boy, huh? He can't hear you.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:18

Uh all right, yeah, Rob, you can go. We'll let you guys go. I know Hope's probably like, all right, I've had enough of watching these children alone. Um, I will I will try to do something tomorrow, and uh, you can have the night off.

SPEAKER_11 2:10:33

And then yeah, just let me know what you need for thumbnail titles.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:36

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'll do. I and I'm not even sure I'm going to. I'll see, I'll see if if I might. I don't know. We'll see. But it's got to be during the day because I don't know. I'm gonna see if I can book something during the day. If I need you, I'll let you know. And uh we will see. Tell Hope I said hello. Hope looks great, dude.

SPEAKER_11 2:10:56

Yep. Being stressed out with kids will do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:02

All right, we will see you guys. I'll I might see you guys tomorrow. Otherwise, we will see you guys on Tuesday. Take us out, brother.

SPEAKER_11 2:11:08

Oh, shoot, where am I playing with the biggest?