Welcome to SpeakUP! with Rita Burke and Elton Brown! Tonight we have a special guest, super special guest. Danny Chan and I call him. Side hustle king, if anything can be used to make money, he will turn it into a side hustle. So you know that line about never do anything unless you get paid for it. Yeah, I think somewhere, know, in his. house it's written and probably on a plaque so that every time he passes by it, he makes sure that he doesn't forget that.
Danny Chan:Does area think it should be a revenue generating activity?
Elton Brown:And why do you feel that way?
Danny Chan:Why? It's a motivator. To make money and to make money is not easy, and just like speaking at Toastmasters, is there anything you do in life? What I found, there's always like three keys to success. First one is you have to have some talent perhaps, and that accounts for maybe 1%. The second you had to have luck, right place right time. And that accounts for 1%. Just like a person joining Toastmasters club. Okay. They have some talent. Good. They had some luck. They found a club. Great. The third and most important that takes about 98% is the ability to never give up. I've seen so many people join Toastmasters club, for example, but they give up early. And for me, all the stuff I've done in my life side hustle or main hustle, it's all about not giving. Just like cooking, for example, when I made my first brisket or my first burger, it came out like a rock. No one's gonna pay. I had to pay people to eat it maybe. But that's the nature of cooking. You learn. Just like my first speech, my first icebreaker wasn't perfect, but you'll learn. You have to persevere and just keep on doing it. And you. refine it, you, I find you can't take shortcuts in life where you just start from one place and you become instantly a professional speaker, or instantly you become this super chef. The road in life is always rocky and it's hard. It goes up and down. So when I'm cooking a brisket, for example, which is a challenging meat, it's about 18 pounds of beef, it's full of fiber. It needs to go low and slow. So my first brisket was like a rock. Oh actually, first of all, I couldn't even find where to buy this stuff. I go to Loblaws, Metro. Where do you get these things from? And then once I finally found it and I cook it, then how are you gonna cook it? There's so many, so much variety. Is it gonna go fat side up, fat side down? What kind of rub you're gonna use? Are you gonna buy it? Now I make all my own rubs. I make my own briskets. I sell to. All kinds of individuals for their birthday parties or get togethers and sharing food is, for me, is very rewarding because with COVID, we were all shut down for a while, right? And I like fine dining and because I couldn't go to restaurants, I was getting depressed there. And that's when I go to Amazon and I find out, how do you make those mashed potatoes so creamy? Then I found a ricer like, Oh, that's still what they use in the restaurants. So I ordered'em. So I'm making all mashed potatoes. And I ordered all the stuff I need to cook with, and learned the first one, like I said, is not the best, but incrementally you get better until you get to the point where you can make money from it.
Elton Brown:So when did you, when was the first clump of meat actually edible? A sellable, I guess is the word to your future patron.
Danny Chan:The first piece of meat was like a rock. That was several years ago, and then I just gave up on it. So I'm not gonna cook this stuff anymore. Just like the hamburgers, I tried make my own hamburgers. I put things like filler, like bread crumbs and stuff just clumped up. It was like my kids won't eat it and I didn't want to eat it. And I got, discouraged for a little bit, but you had to persevere and push on and that's when I got my first Blackstone griddle and I'm making my own smash burgers. I should have a meat grinder as well so I can make my own burgers.
Rita Burke:That sounds so exciting. You've got my mouth watering, Danny, with the foods you're talking about your brisket and your potato and what have you. And I wanna talk about food, but guess what? I wanna go back to something you said, which sounds to me like a sound and robust philosophy of life. 98% of never giving up. Where in earth did you learn that?
Danny Chan:I learned that the hard way coming to Canada as an immigrant, I came to Canada. I couldn't speak a word of English. I'm a visible minority. When I came in the sixties, I was like the only Chinese boy in the whole school. So to learn the language, to learn a culture, and you face discrimination, setbacks, but I just push through it. You can't get mad. Just try harder.
Rita Burke:And you have found that has worked for you?
Danny Chan:That's worked for me because I find no one's going to give you anything just like that. If you want it, you have to fight for it. You have to go get it.
Rita Burke:Talk a little bit more about discrimination that you mentioned.
Danny Chan:I came to Canada as a baby, 18 months old. That's why I didn't speak English So I grew up in Canada. And in the early seventies there was a program called esl, English as a second language. Yes. And when they first rolled it out to the schools, in order to get funding for these programs, they had to get students. So where do you ran up students for an ESL program? They had the bright idea. Anyone not born in Canada automatically goes into the English as a second language program? I don't speak Chinese, I only speak English. That's the only language I. but I was forced in there at a young age, and I think that set me back because I couldn't learn English like normal kids did. I was put in this experimental program at that time called ESL, reading things like the TV guide. I had to learn English on my own. I watched tv, Ontario on TV. I had to go to a library. There was no internet back in those days. There's no YouTube. And I had to teach myself how to read, write, and speak. English
Rita Burke:Sounds to me like you can teach English now, that could become a side hustle, couldn't Elton?
Danny Chan:Now I speak. That's why I had this set up here, right? I speak to law firms and lawyers, et cetera. I go to conferences and speak, and I speak English. So that's how I make my main income is by talking.
Elton Brown:To show you take every opportunity and, use it fullest. How many cooking devices do you have at this point? I know you showed some pictures on Facebook and you know you gave an rate, but now I want a number. How many?
Danny Chan:My first barbecue was a tech barbecue, all infrared. It's about a$5,000 barbecue, so that was the first one. I bought that maybe 20 years ago, and it still works today. The second one I bought was the Big Green Egg, a ceramic cooker. The third one was a Appellete grill. Which is awesome for doing low and slow. The fourth one was my gateway drum, like it's like a oil drum, 50 gallon that I have, and then I got the Blackstone griddle, and I have a variety of other things to cook with. I have a sovi, I have a microwave, of course oven, of course, induction cooker. I have a deep fryer. So I like to eat and people like to eat, so I have a variety of things to cook with. And most recently I use wood on my fire pit cuz I like to have a fire in the backyard. So I grill on that. So that's real wood.
Rita Burke:It sounds to me as if you're willing to invest in order to have solid results in what you cook. You talked about the first piece of equipment that you bought for a thousand plus dollars. So I have a question for you. What is the best or most worthwhile investment that you have ever made? What's the best and most worthwhile investment that you ever made?
Danny Chan:Best investment to make money is probably property.
Rita Burke:You've done that as well?
Danny Chan:Real estate's a great for me to make money.
Rita Burke:I thought it was just equipment and tools. So it's real estate as well,
Danny Chan:I found in education in school, they don't teach about money too much. They teach you how to identify with, are you binary, LGBTQ, et cetera. Whereas they don't teach you about money. Sense how to get a mortgage. What's amortization? How do you finance a property? I bought a house with no money down. I didn't have a real estate agent. I hacked into MLS to get my own purchase of sale agreements. I learned how to do all that stuff and I bought a house. And a house is a great investment strategy because over time that house can double. And then I just finished refinancing where I took the money out tax free. I used it to pay other things off and I could reinvest it that way.
Rita Burke:So you are into real estate, you're into cooking, you're into Toastmaster, you are into vending machines.
Danny Chan:I'm into things that make money, revenue generating activities. That's why I don't watch sports. I play, I don't watch TV that much or the news and doesn't motivate me.
Rita Burke:I get you. I get you and I like it. So I want to hear more now about, in the last five years, what new belief or behavior has most improved your life in the last five years? What you believe or behavior would you say has improved your life most improved your life?
Danny Chan:It's realizing. In life, you may have a goal, but you have a starting point and to get there, there's no shortcuts in life, is what I've decided. I figured out if you want something, there's always a way to progress to it. So when I was exercising, trying to do that first pull up like a full body weight pull up, it was impossible. There's no way I could ever do that. But then I learned there's progressions. You can maybe start just like a pushup. You can maybe start against a wall and then on your knees, eventually on your toes, and then you can add more weight. So everything in life, there's always a progression. You can't just become instantly rich or instantly smart. You may have to go to school. If you wanna be a great speaker, you can't just go to Toastmasters and attend one meeting and, Okay, I got the Table Topics award today. I must be a great speaker. I don't need to go anymore. Or, Hey, I got my DTM. I'm a professional speaker. Distinguish Toastmaster, I'm done. And I can get that in 10 months, let's say. And then I see in life there's so many people who are paper certified. Not true to me, right? Just getting the badges or participation awards doesn't really motivate me that much. If you're gonna get something, earn it. If I'm gonna be a cook and cook something, I gotta cook it to a level where I'm happy other people are happy and they enjoy my food. I don't care if I get an award for first, second, third place. If I'm investing for myself, and the bank account looks bigger, I'm happier.
Rita Burke:Yes.
Elton Brown:We're gonna have to get you one of those chef hats though.
Danny Chan:I got the chef jacket. You saw those pictures? Yes. I know. I don't need a hat. got no hair That's okay.
Elton Brown:We still want you, in the hat, with the big pouf thing at the top of it, the whole nine yard. Going back to your passive income, your vending machines, that interests me what happens if one of the machines break down? Do you call someone or do you go out and repair it yourself?
Danny Chan:That happened to me the other day. My Dixie Naco 5 0 1 that holds 501 cans of pop. The door won't close. The T handle broke, so I had to go to Google, go to YouTube, figure out the parts. Because I had 22 machines, I was able to take parts from an under vending machine and swap and replace it. So all my machines, I serves myself. I know how to use Windex. I know how to use a cloth, a screwdriver. It's not that hard. Some things I do farm out, like moving a machine, those things are almost a thousand pounds.
Elton Brown:There's no way anybody can move those things.
Danny Chan:So I find, I ask around, I make connections, and there's people who move it for a living, and that's what I did.
Elton Brown:What are you looking at in terms of your next goal in terms of passive income. I'm sure there's a lot of things you have on the plate that you've gone so what's the next thing in line to, for
Danny Chan:Passive income? I have two, a laundry mat and a car wash. A laundry mat because everyone has to do laundry and a car wash cuz people like to wash their cars and their high profit margin. Have you ever thought about having a laundry mat, car wash I like them in the same area. I'm targeting an existing laundry mat. But then, like I said, in school they don't teach you about how to invest or how to get. So if you're gonna buy a house, for example, you might grow up with the idea I need to save up a down payment. If the house you wants a million dollars, I need at least maybe 20%. So that means I'm saving 20,000 a year for the next 10 years to get my 200,000 ready. But is a down payment on that million dollar house. Unfortunately, in 10 years, that million dollar house is now worth 2 million. And that, Oh, do I go back and save another 200,000? Get my 400,000? You can never catch up. So when I'm looking at a laundromat or a car wash, I'm looking to purchase with other people's money.
Rita Burke:Okay. How does that happen? I've heard of people talking about other people's money, O P M, but I don't understand how it happens.
Danny Chan:Yeah. Cause our education system does teach us those.
Rita Burke:I went to professional college. I went to learn how to be a teacher and a nurse. I didn't learn how to use other people's money. So tell me about, tell us about that please.
Danny Chan:So other people's money, Let's say I want to buy your house that you own. And I don't have enough money to buy your house. Yes, because my income, let's say, is limited. I only can get so much from the bank as a first mortgage. I can come tell, ask you, Rita, would you be interested in doing a vendor take back mortgage? I'll pay you interest for it, and that's other people's money. That's your money that I'm using to buy your house with. Or I might go to Elton, Hey, I know you have extra a hundred thousand dollars in the bank. Instead of leaving in the bank making almost no interest, why don't I borrow from you and give you, I'd say 8% and then I can use that money to buy my next property. So creative ways of financing your investments. You don't always have to work on your own income and your own savings and playing the rules that came like everyone else does, cuz you, It is very depressing for the next generation trying to move up and buying a house in Toronto. These houses are astronomical on price. I hear you and I fully understand what you're saying. Danny, would you believe that in 1974 we bought our first house? I was in my early twenties and we were able to get the vendor to hold the mortgage, but I didn't know they still did things like that in Toronto. Do they? I didn't know that. Then take pack mortgage,
Rita Burke:You and I need to have a conversation.
Danny Chan:This is just one way of using other people's money. Okay. There's other ways of creativity. Finance. That's why the 98% is never give up. Because if you look at the pictures like, Oh, there's no way I'm gonna, I save enough money as a down payment. And that's just a down payment part. How about land transfer tax? How about legal fees? How about commissions for the real estate agents? Closing costs, and then you're gonna get depressed and you'll give up. That's what most people do.
Rita Burke:So True. So tell us, Danny, what's the best piece of advice that you have ever been? Best piece of advice and then after you've responded to that question, you need to tell us about these three elements to success again, before you're done with us this evening, because I think our audience would want to hear and learn and understand that, what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given?
Danny Chan:The best piece of advice I share with my kids now is cuz they're starting to earn money is the 50, 20, 30 rule. Cause they get a paycheck. And it's Yolo You only live once. The check comes in and then goes out, and then you're, you might be making a good salary. But what I find people don't understand is if you spend more than you make, you're never gonna save anything. Doesn't matter what you do for a living, how much income you make, you'll never have a problem spending more than you. So understanding how to deal with a paycheck. When, let's say you have a hundred dollars, 50, 30, 20 rule, what do You can't just put all the money in a savings account. You can't use all that money to pay off your bills, cuz then you're leav paycheck to paycheck and that's not fun. So 50% should be saved for your let's say your rent or your mortgage your bills. And then you had to save some for investing, let's say 20% at least. Cause if you don't start investing one will You start and then the 30% you have some fun and you gotta live two. But if you know how to take your paycheck, how diviv to diviv it up properly? Because I see so many people just paycheck to paycheck, no savings, and they wonder when I retire, I won't have any. You can't decide to save all your money when you're 64, so you have a retirement when you're 65 That's something you have to start early on. And if you don't know how to do that's why my, this is a very important piece of advice you'll never succeed is you can't turn back time either's
Elton Brown:in the States, you did the IRA, you did all of those different programs where you just squirreled away money. And I, when I worked for Oracle, the program was, if you put in$5, I'm just using that as a random number, five bucks in to your account that the company would also put in$5.
Danny Chan:So matching programs. That's right. Compound and don't underestimate the power of compound interest.
Elton Brown:And it was amazing because a lot of us, we didn't know what we were doing, but we were told by our boss that he said throw your money in there all the money you can put in there without, going homeless and not having food. What we did. We threw in money. People very much like you had side hustles and they were taking that money and, putting it those things. Paid off at the end.
Danny Chan:I got upset because if I put my money in a bank, the bank will then lend it out to other people and then make money and they give me almost nothing. So if I have a thousand dollars and I put in a bank and a day, a week, a month, a year, it's still a thousand dollars. But the banks use my money to lend out and they made money off my money, a lot of money. That's why I bought a vending machine. It was a thousand dollars. I could buy a vending machine and then every month I could make a lot of money more than I would in the bank.
Elton Brown:So when do you have to go visit those vending machines?
Danny Chan:I go about once a month. Because it's passive income. I don't have to go every day. I don't have to sit there nine to five, as long as they're filled up like little traps almost. Chips, a Snickers chocolate bar, Coca-Cola. And when you're at a factory with no stores around you, and it was a hot summer and you're wearing full clothing, you know nothing better than a cold taste of it an ice old, ice cold, coca. And what better to go with it than some salty chips
Rita Burke:So how much are they paying you to advertise that Mr. Danny?
Danny Chan:Ah, that's my own business.
Rita Burke:So is that a side hustle as well?
Elton Brown:You wanna buy a machine? Come see me,
Danny Chan:That's why I talk about, the 90, That's the three rules of success, right? Because before we started our podcast, I talked about the machines and how much did it. I bought a machine for a hundred dollars because this pair of brothers, they started a vending machine business. So they had the talent, they had the luck that bought one, they were able to place at a Kennedy TTC subway station track track level. Unfortunately, it's a little warm down there and the chocolate bar's all melted. So I come in, give'em a hundred dollars. I'll take that machine off your hands. I relocate to a long-term care facility and it's doing quite well, making a lot of money for me now. So the a hundred dollars investment I paid to for that machine, I made it back several times already, and I think those two boys, they just, they quit too early. They only bought two machines at one location. What I did is I bought 22 machines that, because I found out that pop chips, everything expires eventually. And if I don't get rid of it quick enough, I have to then eat it and eating possible.
Rita Burke:You could have brought a couple of packages for us during the interview.
Danny Chan:Sure actually. There you go! So with 22 machines, I'm able to go through my stock lot quicker. Nothing expires, so higher turnover and higher and more money. So I believe those two boys, they just didn't persevere like I did.
Rita Burke:Your formula of 98%, never give up literally walking and talking that, aren't you? And I'm very impressed with that. So just for the benefit of our audience, just repeat the three keys to success that you mentioned. Earlier in the discussion please. Because to me they are profound and they are a way of life, their philosophy of life that many young people don't even have. So talk to us very briefly again about the three keys to success,
Danny Chan:because nothing was ever handed to me, not born rich or royalty or anything like that. After all these years, I found. Looking back, the three keys to success that apply, not just to Toastmasters or working out almost everything, the three keys are, number one, you gotta have some luck, and that accounts for 1%. Number two, you're gonna have to have some talent that's 1%, and the other 98% is not giving up. Because every day I'm, your self-talk or your own mind can talk out a lot of things. Every day I'm thinking, why am I doing this vending business? This morning I went to go fill my machines. You know what I did? I dropped a coke on the ground and poof. And not only one can of pop I dropped two. And then on the way there, I dropped my Tim Horton's t on my driver's seat. Ah, oh. That's how life is. It's not always roses, but just don't give up.
Rita Burke:You must have had this little voice in your ear saying, Don't give up, Danny. Don't give up.
Danny Chan:There's a stronger voice in everyone's head that says, Why bother give up? This is too hard. Why do this? No one else is doing this. And that's what talks people out of a lot of things. Oh, the weather's cold today. It's raining. Or, maybe they won't like it. Oh, this is too hard. I don't have time. I don't have the energy. There's all kinds of excuses, but to push through those excuses, that's what will make you successful in life.
Rita Burke:And you obviously have been pushing through consistently because you came to this country when you were a year and a half old and we. Define and describe you today. I would say as a successful person, but most importantly as a successful businessman. Would you say that
Danny Chan:I would. But then another thing in life I found out is money is not the greatest wealth. You can always borrow money from a bank. You always use other people's money. I found the most important thing in life is your health. Your health is your first wealth. Because you can't take it with you, and if you're not healthy, even with all the money in the world won't help you. So in life, the three things there are, your health is your first wealth. The success part or what you believe in. You could believe in God, believe in something. That's number two. Number three is financial. Cuz money does help It. It should not be the most important thing. Don't be like a Trump, right?
Rita Burke:Because if you didn't have, you weren't you. You weren't gonna be able to buy your vending machine and the first grill that you bought for a thousand bucks. So helps, right? Money just helps.
Danny Chan:It's starting to get, yeah, but the first thing is you have to be healthy. Cuz otherwise I can't go see these machines and fill'em up. If I wasn't healthy, I wouldn't be able to cook. Who wants to buy something from a sick chef
Elton Brown:Have you had any regrets?
Danny Chan:Any regrets? Probably not starting early enough Ahha, and my only regret is maybe not having a mentor to show me these things. I had to learn all these things on my own, and that takes. If I had someone to guide me and I listen to them, it would be easier, I think, and that's why I give it back. And I mentor a lot of other people, right? I don't spoonfeed them where I give them all the answers I have to make'em struggle a little bit, but at least guide'em on the right path. Just like my kids my daughter, she came to me one day, says, Daddy, the kids at school get something called an allowance. Can I get an allowance? Sure. I'll lie to. But I'm only 11 years old. I'm too young. That's okay. I'll find you a job. And I found her a job at the White House on a TV site called 24 with keeper Sutherlin working background. Oh nice. So cuz Toronto has a lot of film productions, tv, movies, et cetera. And they've been on Amazon Prime. Netflix shows, Disney Plus, and most recently a TV commercial. And that's what real life's about. You want money work?
Rita Burke:See, I believe that strongly.
Danny Chan:So when are you with kids? If you just give them the money, then they're, they feel entitled.
Elton Brown:When are you going to put together the ultimate workshop and be able to a, give it online or do it hybrid? You have so much information and you would still be rank money off of it!
Danny Chan:That's what I do for my main job because of Toastmasters I learned how to communicate effectively clear and concisely without all the verbal crutches. Now, I guess speak at different law firms across Canada and this week I think I spent five hours or six hours billable time talking at different firms. Cuz talking is what I enjoy doing. I could do to my old age. It's not like physical labor And as long as you have something of value to share with other people and they're willing to pay you, I'm happy. That's why I value, if you ever have an opportunity in Toastmaster, take on those volunteer positions like a division director or area director, like those are some of the best things I got at a Toastmasters. Cause leading those club officer training sessions, because regular Toastmasters speech is maybe five to seven minutes. in real life. We don't speak for five and seven minutes, but I understand why that is cuz you can't have a whole meeting, just one person talking. and that's why the club officer training sessions, which are about an hour, allow me to facilitate cuz in real life there is back and forth talking. Whereas a prepared speech is really me talking. You listen, give me evaluation, which is okay cuz that's one of the building blocks for this I don't recommend joining Toastmasters becoming Area Director leading club officer training after a week of being a Toastmaster you work your way up to that, right? maybe perform all the roles. That's why for me, I had to push through all those things. I can't just fly like Superman. You gotta creep before you crawl, walk before you run, essentially. But using all those things I learned in Toastmasters, now I can make a living from that. There's no way I thought when I was a little kid who can't speak English properly. That I'd be able to make a living, talking to train professionals, like lawyers and partners, et cetera, and to clients, some of the major corporations across Canada. That's what I love.
Rita Burke:This has been absolutely beautiful. I can sit listening to you for the remainder of the evening, you said that you talked with the three keys to success, and I'll never forget that, but I think you need to add a fourth, and that is to have a sense of humor. And this discussion this evening was peppered and saturated, I would say with laughter. I felt you were easy, you were light, and you know when to laugh and how to laugh. And to me that is profound when it comes to having a successful life. I'm not sure
Danny Chan:I wasn't always funny like that though. That's why I went to Second City to learn improv comedy, to lighten up a bit cuz I was too stiff back then. Oh very. and had to think on my feet and. to you know, take it easy.
Rita Burke:Did it help much?
Danny Chan:It pushed me outta my comfort zone. Cause I never thought I'd be in front of a live stage with paying audience singing in front of them. Improv.
Rita Burke:Do you wanna give us a note before you leave? Do you wanna give us a tune before you leave?
Danny Chan:No! You don't wanna hear me wrapping Or if you start, I'll finish. That's how that works.
Rita Burke:I dunno how you can probably teach me.
Danny Chan:We'll have to get a suggestion from the audience and we'd riff off of that. That's how that works. I was terrible at it.
Elton Brown:But you had a lot thou.
Danny Chan:I had a lot of fun. I'm the only guy from a law firm, let's say in there. Everyone else, an actor, a producer, someone in the entertainment industry. So I'm like a fish outta water. And then, oh, there's nothing prepared. It's all improvised. There's no script. And we're gonna do this in front of a live audience who are not a supportive audience like you get at Toastmasters. They're drinking alcohol. They paid money. They wanna be entertained. They don't care about you,
Elton Brown:That's called motivation.
Danny Chan:Yeah, that's what life's about. You have to push yourself if you get too comfy and then I think you're wasting your life doing the same thing every day. We only have one life and life is short, so live it. That's why this year I'm gonna be traveling every month or so, cuz I get free travel now with the Air Canada. I'm gonna,
Rita Burke:Is that a side hustle? Is that a side hustle as well?
Danny Chan:Yeah, it's called wife.
Rita Burke:A wife works for Air Canada and the perk is the spouse gets to fly for free anywhere. Air Canada flies. So go for it.
Danny Chan:Yeah. That's why I'm gonna go to Dubai and go to Japan, go to Iceland. I don't care if it doesn't cost me anything. Why not? Yeah. And if I had to fly business class, I'll surf. Yes, I don't mind getting on a plane first and get has a plane first. I'll make two.
Rita Burke:As I said earlier, you are such an easy person to chat with and to talk with. You made me laugh and you taught me through lessons and I certainly appreciated the, that Elton appreciates a lot as well. You know what, maybe we should invite you to come back and this time talk about how. Learn how to invest a hundred dollars to start with. Can one beginner a hundred dollars? Well, We could teach you how to actually go for it cuz a lot of people overanalyze things like over an analysis process. What sets in? I think it's a good idea, but I won't do it. When I saw that first TikTok video about vending machines and how much money you can make, I'm sure a lot of other people watched the same video, but I went out and just did it. Not many people actually do it. They say, Yeah, buying a house is a good idea, but I'm just gonna stay and rent. You just gotta go for it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. As a matter of fact, I don't know if you realize we've been waiting for about a year for you to join us. On this podcast, and Elton told me that every time he tried to get in touch with you, you were running. But I know what you were doing now. You were cooking brisket and you were mending your vending machines. So I appreciate that and thank you so very much, Danny, for joining us. Thank you, Rita, for having me.
Elton Brown:Thanks again, Danny. I really appreciate you coming on and actually giving us precious words of wisdom. I don't we could have asked for more. Pay for it either, but thank you
Danny Chan:very much. Okay, thank you.
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