Episode 35: Ellen Jovin & Brandt Johnson: Rebel(s) with a Clause

A Bend in the Road

A Bend in the Road
Episode 35: Ellen Jovin & Brandt Johnson: Rebel(s) with a Clause
Mar 05, 2025 Season 1 Episode 35
Ridgewood Public Library

In their new film Rebel with a Clause, grammar guru Ellen Jovin and director Brandt Johnson head off on a road trip to all 50 states to show how comma fights, rather than divide, can bring us closer together. Join Roberta as they talk about the power of language, taking a grammar stand, and the New York Times bestselling book that started it all.

Things we talked about in this episode:

Rebel with a Clause film

Rebel with a Clause book and Ellen Jovin’s Grammar Table

Brandt Johnson

Oxford (Serial) Comma

Syntaxis Communication


Episode Credits: 

  • Our thanks to Ellen Jovin and Brandt Johnson for joining us today. You can learn more about Ellen, Brandt, and the book and film at rebelwithaclause.com and grammartable.com. 
  • A Bend in the Road is written, hosted, and produced by Roberta Panjwani and created by Roberta Panjwani and Diane Sims.
  • Our Assistant Producers for this episode are Melissa Egan and Elias Rosner. 
  • Our Editors are Roberta Panjwani and Elias Rosner. 
  • Our Technical Directors and Audio Engineers are Matt Giannotti and Elias Rosner.
  • Our Digital Media Producer is Melissa Egan.
  • Original Music is written and performed by Diane Sims.
  • Logo and Website created by Parker Gaidimas.