The Father Factor Podcast
The Father Factor Podcast
with Byron Ricks, Joshua Warmbrodt, and Brandon Ricks
What happens when fatherhood leaves a void—or when it shows up with strength, wisdom, and love?
Join Byron Ricks, author of Searching for Dad: The Nine Side Effects of Growing Up Fatherless and How to Overcome Them, alongside co-hosts Joshua Warmbrodt and Brandon Ricks, for honest, transformative conversations about fatherhood, identity, healing, and legacy.
Whether you’re navigating life without a father, striving to become the father you never had, or raising a child impacted by fatherlessness—this podcast is for you.
With real stories, research-backed insight, and heartfelt wisdom, The Father Factor Podcast creates space for growth, understanding, and redemption. Because no matter where you start, healing is possible—and legacy can be rewritten.
The Father Factor Podcast
Transforming Childhood Challenges into Adult Strengths
How do childhood experiences mold our adult lives? Byron Ricks, Josh Wambrodt and Brandon Ricks invite you to explore this intriguing question on the Father Factor Podcast. Together, we promise to uncover the significant influence of childhood enablement on adulthood, featuring insights from Erik Erikson and Maria Montessori. Listen as we share personal stories, like how structured meal plans transformed our picky eaters into culinary adventurers, ready to embrace life's many flavors and challenges.
As the conversation unfolds, we tackle the thorny issue of entitlement, dissecting its effects on personal relationships and society. Byron recounts an anecdote about dating someone with restricted food preferences, serving as a launching pad to examine parenting styles that cater excessively to children's whims. Through this lens, we discuss how societal attitudes towards challenges can inadvertently foster a sense of entitlement and leave individuals unprepared for adult responsibilities. By connecting these threads to everyday occurrences like road rage, we reveal the hidden complexities behind adult reactions when expectations fall short.
In the final chapters, we delve into the role of parental enablement in shaping behavior. Through mentoring tales and school incidents, we highlight the consequences of a lack of boundaries and the cultural shift away from communal child-rearing practices. The episode concludes with a call to action for parents to reflect on their influence, stressing the importance of raising independent, responsible adults. We urge fathers to engage with us on our online platforms, reinforcing their indispensable role in their children's lives and inviting them to join the conversation with their unique insights.
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Hello and welcome to our podcast series, the father factor podcast. I'm your host, byron Ricks, and joining me is my co-host and good friend, josh Wambrock. The objectives is to give a voice to fathers who are not able to be with their kids, mothers who are raising kids without fathers and children who, unfortunately, are growing up without fathers in their lives. It take more. It take more, more, more, more. Alright, hello everyone and welcome to the Father Factor. Brandon and Josh got my back here today. How you guys doing today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, blessed we. Here we smiling. The weather's actually bearable, it's getting nice. You know, Do on some boots, November is here.
Speaker 1:Josh, you're really into the weather Not every show, but you have a comment on the weather it's too hot.
Speaker 3:Oh man, you know I'll be outside dealing with the pool, my son's baseball. You know I'll be on the move, so I guess the weather impacts everything, I guess, so you and.
Speaker 1:Brandon still have kids where you have to be out playing soccer and baseball, whereas you know I don't have that anymore. So Listen.
Speaker 4:As long as I can sit on the patio and enjoy myself, I'm good to go.
Speaker 1:You know. You know what that's true because it's good patio weather right now. Oh, beautiful patio weather. I got my grill. I can't wait to get back out there and do that. We're coming up on a holiday. Thanksgiving is coming up. Any plans for the holidays?
Speaker 4:I have no plans other than to uh, you have no plans. You have a whole family coming in. Well, you know I have no plans. I will participate in what is planned.
Speaker 3:Okay, you're just showing up at the plate. Okay, usually you go to Ohio for my sibling Thanksgiving, since we got a whole army of us, you know. But uh, we're to have to sit this one out this year. Yeah, because you just bought a house, right, you know, doing renovations and you know. Then also, you know, my wife's PTO got eaten up with the whole college move because we had to go down to the college two, three times before she even started Parent weekend. So you know, baby girl, ate up a lot of that time. So, yeah, we're going to keep it short, simple, local.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, perfect. Well, let's get busy, guys. We were talking last week about enablement. I forgot exactly where we left off, but we said we were going to pick it back up today about children being enabled and the result that we see in them when they become adults. Brandon, I'm going to let you kick this one off.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, I think we discussed the idea of how does childhood enablement affect one in adulthood, as you grow and develop into the real world, and one of the things that I have noticed is that and we talked about this on the last episode is the things that you instill or allow.
Speaker 4:Right, if you study childhood development whether it's Eric Erickson, maria Montessori, piaget they all have come to the same premise that the first five years of life are the most influential, right?
Speaker 4:You develop the child in those first five years, and so it's likely that the behaviors, the patterns, the habits that that kid learns through the first five years, they're going to take with them into adulthood. And so if you have enablement types of behaviors with your children, it's likely that they take those things on with them into adulthood. And so one of the things that I I find interesting, for example this is a benign example, we can use this to kick it off the conversation around food, right, I noticed that in our household and there's different, you know, perspectives on this, and I happen to think that I have the right perspective and if you disagree. If you disagree, then that's fine, but I run to parents, far more parents that are this way than not. That will allow their kids to be what they call picky eaters. They let them eat whatever they want and they let them decline food, and they give them what they want. They dictate the meal.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you've got kids that are eating chicken nuggets all the time. And it's interesting because I hear parents say, oh well, you know, so-and-so doesn't like this or they don't like that. And I'll say, well, why do they have a choice? Who gave them that choice? It's you that gave them that choice. And what happens is those kids they grow up being extremely close-minded. I've noticed so when I see kids as they grow.
Speaker 4:They are adverse to other cultures' foods. They don't want to try things, they don't want to do new things. They have a negative idea about anything. That's not what they're used to. On the contrary, I didn't allow my kids to do that. Whatever I gave them is what they ate. I didn't care if they threw a tantrum, I didn't care if they yelled and cried. They could not eat and I would say that's fine, You're going to be hungry. It would. Now someone would say, that's fine, You're going to be hungry. But now someone could say, oh, that's harsh. No, it's not. Actually, your tears don't motivate me to action. Your disgruntled behavior is not motivating me to action, because I know in the long run I may have to endure some crying, some tantrums, some fits, but you're going to be a better person because of it. And now, when I look at my kids, their palates are very developed.
Speaker 1:They'll eat everything. They'll eat. They're like hornets. They eat, yeah, and they you know they come through like hornets when they come to my house.
Speaker 4:But what's done, though, psychologically, is taught them to not say no and to not make judgments before you try something Right? So they'll eat Ethiopian food. So they'll eat Ethiopian food. They'll eat Cambodian food. They'll eat Thai food, they'll eat whatever Making me hungry, no kidding. But their palates have developed and it's opened their minds to different cultures, different ethnicities. Whereas their counterparts are close-minded, they know very little about other cultures. So you can talk to my kids and they have a wealth of knowledge about different things because they have been opened to experience things.
Speaker 3:So that's one example of how enablement impacts your ability. I think that's a perfect example. I think that's a great example because I mean it really speaks to a larger behavior. You know, it's not just the food. So my daughter came up eating Jamaican food. We ate what we had right.
Speaker 3:So at one point when we moved to Texas, things was different. We was trying to I made dinner or whatever. She uh was like no, I don't like that, I don't want that. And she was about three maybe, and it's something she actually liked. So I really knew I wasn't having that on top. You know, you just being difficult. So she didn't. That night I refused to give her anything else. After that, you know, the next morning for breakfast I put in front of her again. She didn't eat. All right, cool, you know we're going to play the food strike game. You're going to break first Lunchtime Again, microwave it again. It's starting to look bad. And she still didn't eat it her time. I remade the meal just on the principle of no, we're not doing this. She didn't eat again. And then that went on for two full days. We fought, we fought and I finally lost it, like you're gonna get sick, but wait, wait.
Speaker 3:You didn't feed your kid for two days. That's correct. By her choice, food was in front of her yeah, who that she liked.
Speaker 3:I don't know, that seems a bit extreme so I wasn't fitting to. Just oh fine, I'm gonna give in to you and give you some cheerios or chicken nuggets or whatever. You actually like this. This is one of your favorite meals. You just being difficult now, and at this point I'm fighting your stubbornness and your pride, and so you know, I lost it a little bit and said all right, fine, you don. You don't want to eat your kitchen set getting thrown out the window and there's one little Fisher Price kitchen set. She's like no, and she took one bite. And then that's when the um, um, um started eating and she started eating. I don't have that problem with her.
Speaker 3:My son, he was a little bit different but at the end of the day, my kids eat what's in front of them. There are some things that I will allow them to eat around. There are some things I know that they genuinely don't like, but I know that they will eat it. We don't make extra meals for them and what that's done is allowed them, like you said, to have diverse palates. And I remember we you know it was at that African church and they had all that food and they was trying to give the kids like, oh, they probably won't like that, and Angelina's like, no, I want that, you know, say I want that, yeah, and so I think it's a blessing to them, and even came in my favor later on, when she was older with a boyfriend, you know, trying to do that.
Speaker 3:Her boyfriend was that kid chicken nuggets, french fries, so she wouldn't want to go out on a date with him. Right, let's go out, let's, let's, let's eat something. And all he wants is, you know, chicken nuggets, a quesadilla, something basic, and she's that's her. Her pal is more mature and it started to frustrate her because he didn't see error in his wrong and wasn't willing to bend for her to eat something new. And she finally got to the point where it's like, well, he doesn't value me, this is all about him.
Speaker 1:this is a selfish and entitled person it is the worst to go out to eat with somebody who is close-minded right, it's the worst you know what, when I was a teenager, I used to date this girl and all she wanted to eat was tacos and a rip tips and a hamburger. That was it, and I remember getting fed up. That's probably one of the reasons I broke up with her. I ain't gonna lie, yeah, it's a big deal. I'm like let's go get some Chinese food. I don't like Chinese food. Let's go. I want rib tips, tacos, that's it. Rib tips, tacos. And what did I say? Hamburger. That was her every time Tacos, tacos, tacos. I like tacos. My wife loves tacos.
Speaker 3:I love tacos too. My daughter-in-law loves tacos. My wife loves them more.
Speaker 1:And my daughter loves tacos. But let's talk about adults. I mean, I talked about a woman that I knew in California who was scared to death of her son and she would pay his truck payment. She would pay his insurance. She would clean up and wash for him. He lived at home, pay his insurance, she would clean up and wash for him, he lived at home. And she was just scared to death not to do anything for him or how he would respond or react if she said no to him. And it just bothered me that she was more concerned about how he was going to feel and what he was going to think of her than the fact that she just got laid off.
Speaker 3:I mean it's a learned behavior. It goes back to what we just talked about with the kids, because then that means that the toddler learns, I get my way, then the kid learns, I get my way, and then the teenager reinforces that and then the parent has now learned to just accommodate the child, because they never found the point to draw that line and say no, no, no, we got to break this, we got to fix this, we got to correct this. And what I've seen personally, especially with teaching youth, you know, even the fifth and sixth grade, which was my most challenging when we did fifth and sixth grade ministry, that age is rough for me. Yeah, man, it really comes down to the older they get, the harder it is to get them to fall in line. That's why, like you said, the first five years, really the first two or three, you're getting boundaries. The love that, the reassurance should be there with that child so that they recognize boundary, not meanness.
Speaker 4:Well, I think the problem is that in our society, here in American society and culture, is that we equate difficulty, or things that are hard, to negativity, and so we avoid what's hard and challenging in exchange for comfort, and so when kids are uncomfortable, parents make concessions or accommodations to make sure the kids are happy and comfortable. But the reality in life is that once you go into adulthood, you're going to be uncomfortable. Difficulty is going to come, no one can avoid it. But if you've learned that you can get what you want and your parents have enabled you to be able to do things that are not beneficial to your well-being but because they make you happy, you expect that same treatment in adulthood and you find individuals behaving in such a way.
Speaker 4:I mean, look at the way that you see people in our society. They lash out, whether it's through road rage or whether it's cursing out a local barista or doing all these things. What is the crux of that? It's I'm not getting my way, I don't have control over the situation and therefore I'm going to lash out, and they don't handle things appropriately. I had a young man that I was mentoring on a team that I was coaching, and this young man, to be quite honest, was extremely disrespectful. He was not a bad kid, but he was a goofball and his identity was in making other people laugh. I think that he was insecure. He had things going on in his life and so in his mind, if I can laugh and make people laugh at me, then I have value, right and I told him we were playing a game and we were getting were getting beat.
Speaker 4:We were getting beat bad, we're getting our butt kicked and he's over on the sideline laughing. You know, joking off and goofing off and not taking things seriously. And other kids on the team were upset. They were losing and so your selfishness is causing your teammates. They're already in a bad situation, but you're trying to make light of something. That's not funny. And so I reprimanded him and he continued To the point to where I just went ahead and kicked him off the sideline.
Speaker 4:I said you know what I'm done. Get out of here, go. And then I called his mother on the other side and said I'm sending your son back to you, letting called his mother on the other side. I said I'm sending your son back to you, letting you know he's I'm done with it right right now. While this occurred, I had told him. I said listen, I said one day you are going to meet somebody that you're going to joke with and then I can want to joke and you're gonna get whooped. Now he went and told his mom that. I told him that. Oh boy, okay, all right. So now she is instead of recognizing that her son's behavior is so bad that I had to kick him off the sideline. She's now focused on the fact that I told him that he was going to get beat up. Guess what happened about three, four weeks later.
Speaker 3:He got beat up. He got beat up.
Speaker 4:He came to the practice with a black eye.
Speaker 4:I said what happened. About three, four weeks later he got beat up. He got beat up, he came to the practice with a black eye. I said what happened to your face? He descends into excuse making it was the other person's fault. No, no, no, it's been your mouth the entire time and I told you that your mouth was going to get you in trouble. And now you came to practice with your eye black right. And so there's real world consequences, right, a mother who refused to hold the child accountable. He had been causing problems, and I've been around this kid in multiple settings in practice, at school, as I volunteer and I say listen, your son causes problems on a regular basis. This is not like new news. So so now he's in a situation where physical violence came against him. Right, because you've enabled him and made excuses for his poor behavior.
Speaker 1:You know, I've been on the board of a school for my 12th year and you'd be surprised no, you won't, but at what we encounter from parents because their kids have been unable to do things that they shouldn't be doing in school. Maybe they do that at home. We had a situation where a girl and understand that, I want to say she was in about third grade and we don't allow the little girls to go to the bathroom by themselves. To allow the little girls to go to the bathroom by themselves, like when it's a break time, everybody goes, and you got the teachers there and female teachers goes with the little girls, et cetera.
Speaker 1:But she wanted to go to the bathroom by herself and the teacher said no, just hold tight, you know, I have to get somebody to walk with you. And she says well, I want to go now. And the teacher says no, you know, you can't go now. Just hold tight. And the teacher's working to try to accommodate her. Well, she gets up, she storms off to the bathroom, so she gets written up, she gets sent to the principal's office and the father I believe it was comes down to the school and he's upset with us. Why, why do you think he's upset with us?
Speaker 4:Oh, I can only imagine the excuses.
Speaker 1:Because we had no right to keep his little girl from going to the bathroom when she had to go. And we had to explain to him sir, it's a safety issue. We don't want a third grader running the halls by herself going to the bathroom. We were trying to accommodate her. But talk about enablement. Why are you coming down there to us in person? You could have called and we would have told you it's a safety issue, and then perhaps you would have been able to say well, thank you for looking out for my daughter.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well, you know, this generation and culture is people don't want you saying anything to their kids. Long gone has the adage of it takes a villain to raise a child.
Speaker 1:Oh not correct.
Speaker 4:That's so far past, now far gone, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I grew up, my neighbor could spank me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll say it like this I mean, I got a story that involves a golf cart and some drunk goggles and some enablement. And it's me, it was about me. So in high school senior year we had what was called Promise right, and so different schools that have different things going, like the rich school they had a care flight come in and they staged a fake car accident for that.
Speaker 3:So it was against drinking, drinking and driving Right. You know we didn't have as much funding as that one, so they gave us a golf cart and some drunk goggles and some cones to drive to the optical course with. And you know this is when I was in Ohio. My mom lived in Texas. The school didn't have my dad's right number on file because he changed his number and I didn't care to update them on that because I was that kid joking and all that.
Speaker 4:But I also had hands, so it was rare that I could say it. If you got hands you can get away with some things.
Speaker 3:But I thought everybody was going too slow through the obstacle course. I mean, ain't nobody drive this slow. So you know, you had a ride with one of the security officers, mr Givens. I love Mr Givens. I got very close with the security in the school.
Speaker 1:Yeah security.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah. So I gun it. I'm trying to go as fast as I can to the course. You know, obviously the goggles distort everything. A kid diving out of the way? I mean chaos, cause, chaos, of course.
Speaker 3:I got sent to the dean in trouble, told don't do it again. Well, I have five study halls and they did that every study hall. And after the second one of sitting it out, I kind of felt like you know what? I think I can do it, I know what I did wrong, oh my goodness. So I jumped in and took off. They're mad. They call my mom in Texas, mind you, we're in Ohio. And first thing she said is what me to do about it? Wow, I'm in texas, wow, I could. He could hardly listen to me here, so, and then I said well, this is what he did. He, you know, stole a golf cart with drunk goggles. And she said where did he get those items? Well, uh, you, you gave josh access to those things, not once, but twice. I said three times. Um, I only acted twice, but I look back At the time it was funny, whatever, but I look back and it's like man, what I recognize is, in some cases it's not. Don't say nothing to my kid, it's don't bother me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's deflection Right.
Speaker 3:I'm avoiding it, I'm here, and so the kid again, like the jokester, probably doesn't get what he needs at home because mom doesn't want to be bothered and fussed with.
Speaker 4:Well, byron, I got a question for you and I think that I want to hear your thoughts on this. Actually, there is this correlation, I think, between parents and their children that the child's behavior. Parents look at that as a reflection of their own self-worth and value, which is the same reason why you have parents that live vicariously to their kids. Right, the child's performance is directly tied to their self-worth. Do you see that? That playing out a lot and maybe that's part of the reason is that if my child is acting good, that's a reflection on me and my parenting. Child acting bad reflection on me and my parenting. But that's not always necessarily the case.
Speaker 1:I think that I think that parents at least what I see in parents that child I don't want to say property, but that child is theirs and, as you said earlier, what we used to say takes a village to raise that child. They don't think that way. It's their child. They have sole custody, sole rights, and whatever they say goes right, wrong or indifferent. That's what I see today is just it's to control over that child, and many of them may not have control over their lives or their marriages or their jobs, but the one thing they do have control over is that child yeah, but the thing about, though, is, like you know, looking at enablement.
Speaker 4:Right, I was looking at this on parental enabling is any action or inaction on your part that makes it easier for your child to continue unhealthy behaviors. So a lot of the times it's not even control, because the things that you're actually trying to permit the child to behave out of control.
Speaker 1:But I control my child Like you, don't. The school doesn't. This church, this organization doesn't. My rules supersede your rules.
Speaker 3:So what I've always told my kids is that, though you belong to me, you don't belong to me, you're not my possession, and so are you talking about being possessive over that, so that it's more of a property it?
Speaker 1:can be perceived as possessive. Yet again, this is my bottle of water and I can do what I want to with it. I can pour it out on the floor and I can throw it at him, or I can throw it over there. I can drink it. You can't tell me what to do with it, even if I use it inappropriately Right.
Speaker 3:So it's a possessive of property and you see that, with mothers and sons, with a new girlfriend, wife, it's a possessive, you see it with fathers, with daughters.
Speaker 4:Look up possessive. Yeah, he's correcting what he's saying.
Speaker 3:I'm just curious, go ahead, no, but so, like the father that stormed into school, da-da-da-da-da-da, and that's the action, right, right. And then like, for example, my mother, the phone call to my mother, her inaction, right. So the action or inaction, and a lot of times I think we try to equate this to an action, but I think it's equal to the inaction. And then I think there's a third piece, which is what you're talking about is, since you belong to me, you're going to do as I say, and you're mine, and you're this and you're that.
Speaker 1:Well, not just you're going to do as I say, you're not going to tell my kid.
Speaker 3:Right, you're not going to tell my kid, right? And I mean it's basically controlling your child and their environment around them as much as you can running up on the coach. Did you tell my son he's going to get beat up? Well, you ain't worried about him. You know getting kicked off the field in the middle of a game, right.
Speaker 4:So possessive is. Someone who is possessive in his or her feelings and behavior towards or about another person or thing, wants to have all that person's attention. Love will not share with anyone else. Possessive mother, boyfriend, all could be also be used in mine or yours, denoting in a grammatical sense, a possessive word. Right, so it's. It's. Yes, josh is right in the sense that the idea is that this is mine. Right, there is going to be no criticism outside of what comes from me, right, and if there's anything that you say, it has to be in line with what I say. Now, I think there's.
Speaker 4:The other layer of it, though is, uh, I'll tell you. You know, just recently I had some, some stuff going on with my son, okay, and I had to go, you know, to the school, and my son is a great young man, but he's a little bit scatterbrained, and so, therefore, he's got certain accommodations, and he's had these since elementary school, and we had to go to the school, and I had to talk to the counselor and you know his accommodations, counselor, and whatever else and we're having a conversation, and I said I am willing to do whatever you do to make sure that he's held accountable and that the proper structure is in place to make sure that he excels. So if he's uncomfortable I could care less. Right, right, and they looked at me like I was an alien, of course, you know, and the one of the counselors. She came to me afterwards and she said I want to thank you for how involved you are in your desire to hold him accountable and allow us to do our jobs.
Speaker 1:Your parenting skill.
Speaker 4:You'll be amazed at how many parents we have these exact same meetings and they spend the whole time defending, making excuses for their children. And I said and it was a weird compliment to take because it's like well, this is what I'm supposed to do. My job is not to be my child's friend, right that? That other layer of it there is too, right, is that? A lot of times, parents think that, oh, this is my friend. No, it's not. Your job is to make sure that you raise and develop an upstanding, contributing citizen of the society in culture. Right, you in culture right.
Speaker 3:You want your kids to be successful at life. Now I'm not saying like in life, I'm talking about are they, can they survive? Can they be pleased? Can they, like you said, functioning in society? Because if not, you're really doing these kids a disservice to have like this kid. I mean, imagine this guy who's living off of his mother, refuses to do whatever she's scared to to huff or puff or say anything in his way. He can't feel like a man like you got to think that when he gets into a room full of real adults, does he? What does that do to him? So they likely avoid those situations which it continues to enable the poor behavior. And what type of life is that? You know? Living in a basement, possibly just playing video games or make trolling online because you don't have the confidence to go out, because society doesn't bend to your way as the way that your mom's house does?
Speaker 4:That's a segue. Until you know, you sent the Italian culture thing. I don't know if we'll have time on this episode, but just as a reminder. You know you are listening to the Father Factor podcast by R josh warm brought and brandon ricks here. Gentlemen, you won't believe this, but we are at like 29 minutes already, you know. So I know that we want to get into some of this. Maybe we'll have to have episode three where we get into the idea of different cultures and how they handle parenting and what does it look like to have a child leave the nest? What age is appropriate? There's a lot of controversy around this. Americans do things differently where it's 18 year adult, but that's not always the case in every culture. So I think that we should talk about that on the next episode.
Speaker 1:For sure. Yeah, all right, I thank you, gentlemen, for being here today. I would like to also thank my audience. And hey, listen guys, I want to thank our sponsors. Listen, guys, I want to thank our sponsors. Ernest B Barbecue in Frisco, texas Go there, you tell them the Father Factor sent you. And Flewellen Cupcakes, dallas you go there and you tell them the Father Factor sent you.
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Speaker 2:All right.
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Speaker 2:It take more than names to be a man. It take more than sex to be a dad. It take more than good to beat the bad. It take more than good to beat the bad. Oh yeah, it take more. It take more, more, more, more.
