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And I have this"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":962.97,"endTime":966.51,"body":"analogy that just came, you"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":962.97,"endTime":966.51,"body":"know, it looks like we're doing"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":966.75,"endTime":970.44,"body":"some work that's totally"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":966.75,"endTime":970.44,"body":"unnecessary, just to keep us"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":970.44,"endTime":974.7,"body":"busy, but to slow down our"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":970.44,"endTime":974.7,"body":"development. Like in the same"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":974.7,"endTime":979.11,"body":"way, when you mine Bitcoin, all"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":974.7,"endTime":979.11,"body":"the rigs are doing these totally"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":979.11,"endTime":982.95,"body":"unnecessary calculations that"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":979.11,"endTime":982.95,"body":"are called Proof of Work, just"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":982.98,"endTime":989.07,"body":"to slow down the creation of new"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":982.98,"endTime":989.07,"body":"Bitcoins. We are somehow doing"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":989.1,"endTime":992.88,"body":"the same - acting as human"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":989.1,"endTime":992.88,"body":"Bitcoin mining rigs. This world"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":992.88,"endTime":996.51,"body":"is really fractal. And we can"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":992.88,"endTime":996.51,"body":"see similarities everywhere."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":996.84,"endTime":1000.11,"body":"It's like, you know, you have"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":996.84,"endTime":1000.11,"body":"the dishwashing machine in your"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1000.11,"endTime":1004.52,"body":"kitchen, that can work, but"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1000.11,"endTime":1004.52,"body":"you're still hiring someone to"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1004.55,"endTime":1007.88,"body":"wash the dishes for you. 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It's crazy."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1015.95,"endTime":1019.7,"body":"Why don't we just gather and"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1015.95,"endTime":1019.7,"body":"say: guys, we need to change"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1019.7,"endTime":1020.09,"body":"this."},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1020.27,"endTime":1022.91,"body":"We've been saying that"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1020.27,"endTime":1022.91,"body":"everybody's thinking that"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1022.94,"endTime":1025.79,"body":"there's going to be a government"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1022.94,"endTime":1025.79,"body":"that's gonna solve problem of"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1025.79,"endTime":1030.05,"body":"climate change, and like, and"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1025.79,"endTime":1030.05,"body":"wealth, of AI, somebody has to"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1030.05,"endTime":1032.78,"body":"take care of it, somebody has to"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1030.05,"endTime":1032.78,"body":"take care of the people, but"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1033.35,"endTime":1036.74,"body":"government really doesn't. And"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1033.35,"endTime":1036.74,"body":"there was this example, with"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1036.74,"endTime":1040.19,"body":"monkeys. If there are monkeys in"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1036.74,"endTime":1040.19,"body":"the cage, and the flood is"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1040.19,"endTime":1043.67,"body":"coming, the leader is not going"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1040.19,"endTime":1043.67,"body":"to let them out. Because his"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1043.7,"endTime":1048.71,"body":"pride, his authority over them"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1043.7,"endTime":1048.71,"body":"is more important than anything"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1048.71,"endTime":1052.01,"body":"else, even the survival"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1048.71,"endTime":1052.01,"body":"instinct. But if you give a key"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1052.01,"endTime":1055.46,"body":"to small monkey, they're gonna"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1052.01,"endTime":1055.46,"body":"let the rest of the monkeys out."},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1055.46,"endTime":1058.67,"body":"But they are not going to become"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1055.46,"endTime":1058.67,"body":"a civilization, they're gonna"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1058.7,"endTime":1061.67,"body":"stay the same group of monkeys,"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1058.7,"endTime":1061.67,"body":"and they're going to have a new"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1061.67,"endTime":1064.64,"body":"leader, and they're going to"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1061.67,"endTime":1064.64,"body":"have the new dictator over them."},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1065.0,"endTime":1068.63,"body":"And this is where we are as a"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1065.0,"endTime":1068.63,"body":"humanity right now, we expect"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1068.63,"endTime":1072.53,"body":"that leader or some government"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1068.63,"endTime":1072.53,"body":"or organization is going to take"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1072.53,"endTime":1076.55,"body":"care of us. It really does not"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1072.53,"endTime":1076.55,"body":"seem like that. It seems like"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1076.55,"endTime":1080.24,"body":"our leaders are just as confused"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1076.55,"endTime":1080.24,"body":"as we are. And nobody"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1080.24,"endTime":1082.76,"body":"understands how to get out of"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1080.24,"endTime":1082.76,"body":"this crisis."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1083.63,"endTime":1087.02,"body":"Oh, yeah, they're just"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1083.63,"endTime":1087.02,"body":"like, this little monkey, little"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1087.02,"endTime":1091.49,"body":"insignificant monkey, once it"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1087.02,"endTime":1091.49,"body":"gets the keys from the cage, it"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1091.49,"endTime":1094.37,"body":"becomes leader, and then"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1091.49,"endTime":1094.37,"body":"everything repeats. It would be"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1094.37,"endTime":1097.94,"body":"really sad if we stayed at this"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1094.37,"endTime":1097.94,"body":"level of development as a"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1097.94,"endTime":1102.44,"body":"civilization, and continued to"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1097.94,"endTime":1102.44,"body":"get everything only for a group"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1102.5,"endTime":1106.85,"body":"of well-off monkeys. And this"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1102.5,"endTime":1106.85,"body":"also concerns for example, the"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1106.88,"endTime":1110.33,"body":"development of AI, just going"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1106.88,"endTime":1110.33,"body":"back to what you were talking"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1110.33,"endTime":1114.14,"body":"about previously, and I can't"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1110.33,"endTime":1114.14,"body":"stop thinking that this is for"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1114.14,"endTime":1118.94,"body":"the same reason that we are not"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1114.14,"endTime":1118.94,"body":"using technology with the goal"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1118.97,"endTime":1122.48,"body":"to benefit the society as a"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1118.97,"endTime":1122.48,"body":"whole. But everyone is"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1122.48,"endTime":1126.17,"body":"competing, we see that this"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1122.48,"endTime":1126.17,"body":"doesn't work, doesn't work well,"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1126.17,"endTime":1130.52,"body":"for us as a society. Why is"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1126.17,"endTime":1130.52,"body":"that? Well, there are plenty of"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1130.52,"endTime":1133.61,"body":"reasons as the first example"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1130.52,"endTime":1133.61,"body":"with the names of the people"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1133.61,"endTime":1136.31,"body":"that if we are not helping each"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1133.61,"endTime":1136.31,"body":"other to progress, then we are"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1136.31,"endTime":1139.25,"body":"not progressing. We are just,"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1136.31,"endTime":1139.25,"body":"everyone is looking for his own"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1139.25,"endTime":1140.84,"body":"ball and never finding it."},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1141.2,"endTime":1143.87,"body":"Exactly. And you know,"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1141.2,"endTime":1143.87,"body":"people are getting really"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1143.87,"endTime":1147.71,"body":"desperate when they realize that"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1143.87,"endTime":1147.71,"body":"nobody is planning to even take"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1147.71,"endTime":1150.23,"body":"care of them, not their"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1147.71,"endTime":1150.23,"body":"governments, they just don't"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1150.23,"endTime":1150.86,"body":"know how."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1151.01,"endTime":1154.31,"body":"As you rightly said,"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1151.01,"endTime":1154.31,"body":"this whole system is not going"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1154.31,"endTime":1159.02,"body":"to fix itself. When the whole"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1154.31,"endTime":1159.02,"body":"system is doing unnecessary"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1159.02,"endTime":1162.95,"body":"stuff, just to keep you"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1159.02,"endTime":1162.95,"body":"dependent on the energy, or"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1162.95,"endTime":1167.33,"body":"money, or whatever, we are"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1162.95,"endTime":1167.33,"body":"restricting the development of"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1167.33,"endTime":1171.65,"body":"the system ourselves. 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