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And this is"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1778.91,"endTime":1782.48,"body":"what we are observing right now."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1782.96,"endTime":1789.11,"body":"Until we think of our planet of"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1782.96,"endTime":1789.11,"body":"humanity as one whole system."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1789.44,"endTime":1794.45,"body":"Every single object that we"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1789.44,"endTime":1794.45,"body":"introduce in our lives, it has"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1794.45,"endTime":1799.01,"body":"to have its life cycle thought"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1794.45,"endTime":1799.01,"body":"through, calculated, and then we"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1799.01,"endTime":1803.66,"body":"can decide, okay, should we use"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1799.01,"endTime":1803.66,"body":"it or not? Because if it harms"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1803.69,"endTime":1808.79,"body":"someone later down the line"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1803.69,"endTime":1808.79,"body":"after you used your computer or"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1808.79,"endTime":1814.34,"body":"phone and it's being traded-in,"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1808.79,"endTime":1814.34,"body":"where does it go? Maybe a"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1814.34,"endTime":1817.22,"body":"beautiful robot that"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1814.34,"endTime":1817.22,"body":"disassembles your phone and the"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1817.22,"endTime":1820.94,"body":"enclosure and everything is"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1817.22,"endTime":1820.94,"body":"being reused. This is great. 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No one"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1835.19,"endTime":1839.24,"body":"was even thinking about how you"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1835.19,"endTime":1839.24,"body":"can dispose of your invention"},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1839.24,"endTime":1841.7,"body":"when it's no longer needed."},{"speaker":"Alexey ","startTime":1839.24,"endTime":1841.7,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1843.05,"endTime":1846.376,"body":"Absolutely agree with"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1843.05,"endTime":1846.376,"body":"you. We need a holistic approach"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1846.438,"endTime":1850.318,"body":"and maybe even more than that we"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1846.438,"endTime":1850.318,"body":"can actually calculate through"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1850.38,"endTime":1854.015,"body":"the economy that wouldn't have"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1850.38,"endTime":1854.015,"body":"inflation, that economy that"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1854.076,"endTime":1857.711,"body":"wouldn't have overproduction,"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1854.076,"endTime":1857.711,"body":"because, in fact, we know how"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1857.772,"endTime":1861.53,"body":"many people are out there in the"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1857.772,"endTime":1861.53,"body":"world, we know how much they"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1861.592,"endTime":1864.856,"body":"consume, how much food they"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1861.592,"endTime":1864.856,"body":"need, how much anything -"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1864.918,"endTime":1868.861,"body":"electricity, how many cars will"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1864.918,"endTime":1868.861,"body":"have to be produced. 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So what would be great"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1894.98,"endTime":1898.552,"body":"is for us as a people to create"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1894.98,"endTime":1898.552,"body":"demand for transparency on"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1898.614,"endTime":1902.249,"body":"economical level and to request"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1898.614,"endTime":1902.249,"body":"more power so that we could"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1902.31,"endTime":1906.191,"body":"actually use our power daily to"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1902.31,"endTime":1906.191,"body":"increase the quality of life on"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1906.253,"endTime":1909.949,"body":"this planet for every single"},{"speaker":"Taliy","startTime":1906.253,"endTime":1909.949,"body":"individual. 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