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Ep. 120 w/ Matty Nelson - Exploring the New SIC (Seekins Interchangeable Caliber) Rifle from Seekins Precision

• George Blitch • Season 1 • Episode 120

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You do not want to miss this podcast with Matty Nelson, former Green Beret, with Seekins Precision, to talk about their latest and greatest design, the SIC rifle.

Precision shooters, competitors, and professionals have long chased a rifle that balances brute strength with fast modularity and repeatable zero. The Seekins Precision SIC (Seekins Interchangeable Caliber) rifle aims straight at that problem with an architecture that rethinks how a rifle is built, not just how parts bolt together. 

Instead of a traditional action dropped into a chassis, the SIC uses a massive receiver that integrates what most platforms spread across multiple components. The result is a tool‑free, on‑the‑fly caliber change system that preserves alignment and reduces the usual weak points where screws back out and tolerances drift. From short action favorites like 6.5 Creedmoor to long action hammer rounds like 300 Norma and 338 Lapua, the platform transforms without turning your bench into a parts yard.
 
What makes this design compelling is the way it manages interfaces. Dedicated, caliber‑specific magazine wells drop into the receiver so you avoid unreliable spacer hacks, and a larger‑diameter bolt body carries a tool‑less, swappable bolt head. That change mirrors the proven Seekins approach to barrel swaps, bringing their “HIT” methodology inside the SIC’s core. Two takedown pins—think AR upper and lower—separate the receiver, magwell, and trigger group for maintenance and role changes. Add a folding stock, full‑length Arca, and M‑LOK throughout and you get a rifle that moves from ELR hillside hides to competition barricades with minimal compromise. Demand from special operations drove the brief, but the civilian interest is obvious: one rifle, multiple missions, repeatable performance.
 
Rail integration is smarter than it looks. The 20 MOA Picatinny rail keys into a beveled handguard channel and installs from the front, preventing movement from top‑down torque and eliminating the micro shifts that plague thermal and night vision setups. Mount a dedicated rail section to your thermal, slide it into the handguard’s keyed track, and your return‑to‑zero stays true because the geometry, not just screws, enforces position. Reports from high round counts show no meaningful zero shift across classes, even after drops, heat cycles, and abuse that would out a lesser build.
 
Ergonomics follow a “supercar” philosophy: close your eyes, shoulder the rifle, and controls should fall exactly where your hands expect. The ambidextrous safety doubles as a true thumb shelf, fixing a common gripe with precision stocks and improving grip tension without torquing the rifle. Length of pull and cheek height adjust quickly, and a flywheel lets you shift the buttpad up, down, or cant it to clear armor, antennas, or pack straps. For operators who tune kit to the mission—or competitors contorting over obstacles—those micro adjustments translate to cleaner natural point of aim, less wobble, and fewer forced shots. 
 
Performance has been off the charts amazing, as you come to expect from Seekins Precisions. The SIC feels less like a new model and more like a blueprint for how modular precision rifles should and will be built.

Make sure to visit the following links when you can:

SeekinsPrecision.com
IG: "seekinsprecision_official"
IG: "matty__nelson

George Blitch (host)
IG: "thesonofablitch"
YouTube.com/@SonofaBlitch

SPEAKER_01:

Maddie, welcome back to the podcast, man. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm so good, man. Thank you for having me back. It's one of my favorites. Like you're a stud, man. Anytime I get to talk with you, it's it's it's a good day.

SPEAKER_01:

Ah, cheers, man. Well, you've joined the uh three Peter now with Jesse Griffiths and Jean-Paul Bourgeois.

SPEAKER_00:

So, you know, is it like a robe that we get like on like you know Saturday last year?

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I was thinking. It's gotta be camo, right? So you can take it out in the field as well or something, right?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, everybody likes to get a smoking jacket.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm working on development. Well, speaking of development, you guys just launched the sick rifle. Now, listen, this is sick, but we're talking about SIC Sequence Interchangeable Caliber. This thing is amazing. I'm gonna let you just roll with it. Tell everybody all about the sick.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's it's uh it it is it's tough. It's a it's aptly named. Everybody that has seen it that's got to play with it through the whole RD process. Uh, like that's man, this rifle is sick. Like you you're right, it is. It's aptly named. But uh no, it's been super fun. So it's been rattling around in in Glenn's mind for the last um year and a half or so. Um, and and you know, me and you have talked about Glenn before, and he just he's just he's that guy that sees stuff in his brain. So he had this gun built, designed, everything. And then was making final tweaks on it, but all you know, just kind of mentally. And then um a year ago, uh some guys came knocking and they're looking for some special things uh with you know the ability to change calibers on the fly, short action to long action, you know, like you know, 308, 65 Creedmore, up to you know, three, three hundred, three hundred uh normal, three thirty eight, normal, three hundred Lapool or three three Lapool. Um, and uh so Glenn was like, man, I've got this one that's been rattling around for a while. Let's start, let's start putting it down. So uh we we you know had a bunch of tweaks with the PH3 and a bunch of things that that ate up a bunch of time early in the year. And then about July, Glenn was like, all right, here we go. We're gonna get serious, we're gonna start making parts, we're gonna start RD and some stuff. And uh uh got physical parts out, got some stuff that we were shooting here at the shop with Hack Creek making tweaks, uh getting you know a bunch of feedback from a bunch of different guys. We were sending like 3D printed models of like, here's what the action is, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? Uh got a bunch of of different feedback, incorporated everything that we thought we that that we wanted in it, everything we thought that that some special operations guys were looking for on it, and then uh came up with the finalized sick rifle, and it is a monster. I cannot wait to get when I when I try and describe it to people, they're like, what does it look like? What is it? Is it is like a chassis? Is it like a and it's not. It is not a chassis that was built to house a barrel to action, it's not a barrel to action, it is a complete uh like patent pending redesign of what we should look at and how we should look at rifles being put together moving forward. So it's it's the the receiver portion of it is massive. It makes up you know two-thirds of of where a chassis should be. Um if guys are thinking like, well, how does it compare to a chassis gun? And then it has a removable magazine well, so it's not just one size magazine well, and you have these big plastic spacers that may or may not work for feeding reliability, etc. Um, so it's it has dedicated caliber-specific magazine wells that go into it, uh, and then you can swap the bolt head just like our pH three or whatever. The bolt body and diameter is much bigger. So that lots of guys have asked, well, can I use like my pH three? Absolutely not, not even close. The design is exactly the same, but diameter is much different. Um, so tooless bolt head swap, and then the same barrel change system that we've like perfected with the hit is integrated into this receiver. So you can change calibers at the drop of a hat with no tools. There's no there's no screws, there's no torque wrenches, there is nothing that you need because everything, the action receiver is one whole massive unit. So you're not worried about action screws coming loose. I got to retorque this, I have to have the correct tool for that. It's all one piece, and it comes apart. The receiver and the magazine well and the trigger group all come apart based off of two takedown pins, just like an AR upper and lower receiver. So it is uh like the tolerances are insane, but that's what we're that's what we're known for is making precision parts that fit together so cleanly. And that this the sick is is taking that to the next level for us as far as precision, machining, fit form, function of the parts together. Um, and it's it's amazing. It's it is a one-of-a-kind rifle that is truly a leap in innovation.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and and I uh you have the built-in T25 Allen key there for adjustments if you need any, but yeah, all the takedown pins. I mean, this is it's revolutionary. It really is. You've got your folding stock. I mean, I know that this is built really for the idea of military contracts, but I know that there is a huge market from everyone who saw it on Monday. I'm sure that there are lots of phone calls that came coming through uh to your facility there.

SPEAKER_00:

So normally I get about two-thirds through the day with normal traffic, whatever, like my phone's ready for a recharge. I don't think I made it to like 11:30 in the morning and my phone was gonna die. I had to plug in. It was just nonstop. I answer one call, missed four. Like it was just it was insane all morning long. And uh it it it's it was a very positive uh feedback from the industry in general. So yeah, like it's been specifically designed uh in RD and and through the assembly process just for special operations, but there was such a such a demand for a weapon that fits that system for competition shooters, for guys that are taking long-range classes, et cetera, that that even with no, like, hey, I don't have a really good delivery date for you, it'll be sometime in 26, hopefully, but that will be military contract dependent, even with no delivery timeline and and a quite a different price tag than Seekins is used to putting out. Uh, the the feedback was overwhelmingly uh you know super positive with a lot of demand and desire, and a lot of orders were still placed just so they could have a place in line for when we can start providing these for civilian use.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. Well, and I mean you guys are always pushing innovation, right? I mean, it's part of the name. And and that's something that you know the even just like the little things I was noticing too, like with the 20 MOA pick rail and then going into the handguard and having that built in, that's ridiculous. I mean, I haven't ever seen this before. Here is something that again is cutting-edge technology, so you guys are rewriting the phone.

SPEAKER_00:

Slides into the handguard, and you have to slide it in from the front, you can't just place it down on top and then screw it in. So the handguard is actually beveled, so you can't just pull the pick rail out, which means like repeatability for night optics, etc. So you could take the shorter section of rail, permanently mount it to your thermal or or Hiss or whatever you're gonna be, your Voodoo 22, whatever you're gonna be using on there, you just permanently leave that on there, slide it on, screw it back in place where it's supposed to be, and like you have z no zero shift, like perfect alignment every time. Doesn't matter which way you use that bottom rail because it is in the hand guard, is where the 20 MOA is integrated. That that rail is machine, it's a crazy forethought. Like Glenn is a wizard a hundred percent, right? Like Glenn Seacins is is is a wizard, and that's how he thought of that stuff to just change how guy like that's a huge problem for dudes. Like, oh, like put it on here, but then I have zero shift, I have these problems, I have those problems. My my pick rail wants to come loose because it's just bolted in from the top. Well, like let's fix that, let's just make it so it can't come out. You can have no screws on there, and you're still gonna be able to put it in there and it's gonna line up and and be okay because it can't physically get pulled out of the hand guard. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, another thing, too, that I know with you know, with the last round of rifles, we talked about this, your 2025 lineup too. You guys are are really building these for these high pressure rounds. I mean, there are some serious things that are that are coming out. We already know about the 277 Fury, the backcountry. There's different innovations that are coming in the ammunition world, which may have been kind of non-civilian, but now they are. And we're I see that you guys are testing these, I mean, to extreme levels as well to make sure that, you know, I mean, I think you guys said we were testing them at like 150, 160, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. So we we blow guns up at Seekins like on the regular to ensure that we're there. And so the other tricky part about high pressure stuff is, and like if you go look at our website, like we don't have any like real high pressure verbiage on the website. We're waiting for uh Sammy to come out and define what high pressure is. Is it 75,000 psi? Is it 80,000 psi? Is it 90,000 psi? And then what is it supposed to be able to handle? Sammy is the one that comes out with the proof rounds for just standard ammunition that we have right now, which is you know 20% over what the load is. Well, okay, well, what's it gonna be for the high pressure stuff? Is it 20% over 90,000 psi? And then what is the requirement for that, right? Does the gun just not come apart? Does it so so we're kind of waiting for Sammy to come out with some stuff before we officially throw the verbiage out there for yeah, like we are high pressure ready, but like you know, short and small of it, 100%. Like Stegans is ready to go for the high pressure stuff. We're we're overtesting our rifles to extreme amounts, you know, shotgun or pistol powder loaded to the top of the case, crink the bullet in there, put it in our bomb-proof box. We gotta we gotta like no joke, it's a fishing pull, like pull the trigger with that, and then with cameras and other things, we're looking at okay, how did the gun come apart? Where did the gun come apart? Is anything coming back towards the shooter? Because that is unacceptable, right? Everything has to go down or forward of the shooter. Um, and so at you know, 160, 170, 180,000 psi where these guns are getting detonated at, uh, at like 130, 140, the magazine doesn't even come out. Like the the pressure ports, the the designs we have built into the gun allow that to escape and the gun to still function after that happens. Once we get above 150, 160, now we start getting like you know, pretty severe uh you know, lug lock up with the action and a few other things, and the magazine is going to get blown out the bottom, but nothing is is wrapping back towards the shooter, which is which is super cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, it is. Well, I I love that you guys over-tested those things to be able to kind of reverse engineer that back and like making sure you guys are having the shooter be safe, especially those who are going to be, you know, using this in the front lines of uh where they need it. I mean, those people have to have that you know safety in all aspects. Um, you know, another aspect that I wanted to talk about too is and obviously you got the folding stock, but one of the things I thought was so cool was the ability to kind of uh change your length of pull and your butt stock being able to move. I mean, there is like a the the modularity of this entire rifle, but I just was looking at that highlight and I was like, that's kind of a cool setup for however you're gonna have to configure your shot, right? There is comfortability with that as well. So maybe we talk about that.

SPEAKER_00:

And different, different so so being a you know, come coming with the background is a green beret, there's different mission sets with different stuff. Like a lot of times, if you're going straight Rekce side, like you're running pretty slick body armor, if any, uh, but you still have radios, antennas, wires, etc. So how how that stock fits to that shooter and then hit how his kit is set up, right? Like part of being special ops is you get to decide what works best for you, not like everyone will have this magazine here, like you know, kind of big army standard standardization of stuff. Like, no, they get to optimize their kit so that it is is you know the most efficient and battle ready for each operator, which means it may be different for you know Bob than it is for Dave, than it is for Maddie, than it is for you. Um, and so having that stock be able to be on the fly, length of pull adjusted super easy, cheat piece, super easy, but then also with just a flywheel, loosen it up, and then you can twist, move up and down that actual pad. So, you know, find yourself, oh, from this particular hide site where I'm at, where I have to take the shot from off this tripod over this obstacle, whatever it is. Man, that's like it's not quite fitting right. Instead of trying to adjust stuff and force a force a wobbly shot or or have an unstable position to pull security from, now they can quickly, cleanly adjust where that pad is, move it over to where it's on a clean spot on their body, not rubbing off kid or falling off somewhere, and then be able to have a secure, easy position to shoot from, which is which is the goal, right? We want it to be as easy as possible for our guys. I want to make the enemy work harder. Yes, right? The easier it is for our guys, mentally, physically, all of that. The longer they get to stay in the fight, the longer, the you know, the sharper they're gonna be throughout, you know, hours and hours and hours of of whatever operation they're on. Um, so that's that's the goal. Make it easy for our guys to make the enemy work harder. Let's let them get tired.

SPEAKER_01:

So love it. Well, and that's just that that's not all. There's all sorts of other things you guys have in there. You got the full-length arca rail, the MLOC slots throughout. I mean, everything that you guys have, the modularity is just it just blows my mind about this. And I was kind of curious too, like where all I mean, I know you guys, you know, test these out at Hat Creek. I know there's other places probably tested them out as well. Um, you know, what what kind of uh distances are you throwing uh downrange, you know, personally when you've uh had this tested out?

SPEAKER_00:

So we I've shot the three, I've shot the 338 Lapua, uh just a shade over uh just a shade over a mile, like 1780-ish meters, I think, was one of the targets we were banging at up there. And then with the 300 with the 300 Norma, like that round is a monster. So we're shooting like 22 to 2,500 meters with that, um, and getting, you know, outside of wind, you know, beating us up at those distances in a canyon, uh, getting pretty good uh, you know, hits, hits to misses ratios on targets that, you know, 22, 2500 meters, which is awesome. So yeah, we're we're stretching them out pretty far. Uh, we've had a couple guns, we've had a couple of the sick rifles at Hat Creek uh for a couple months now, and they're they're both creeping up on a pretty high round count. And it's uh and and the round count is not like, oh, let's let's you know, one shot here, one shot there. It is like, hey, they pull it out of the truck and everybody's like, what the hell is that? And I want to shoot it. So it's you know, 10 rounds for this guy, 10 rounds for that guy, 10 rounds for the next guy, like just poop poop over and over, and like you the suppressor is cooking, like the whole like you can smell the hot coming off the gun. It's just getting abused, and it has continued to have zero issues with any type of zero shift. We're using the one piece that you know, the precision one piece mounts on there with the S lock that locks up with the rails. And and generally speaking, with a lot of the different systems up there, we're usually chasing zeros from one class to the next class by a tenth or two. It gets banged around on the truck, it's maybe you know getting put in backpacks and hiked all over the place up there. Uh, but with those two models from day one zero to now, we have had no issues with any zero shift banging around the back of the truck. They've been up and down the mountain a bunch of times, bunch of different backpacks, bunch of different users dropped, whatever. Um, and then just the high round count that's been put on them, no issues with the zero shift, which has been great. Um, so like just reliability is awesome. The accuracy is out of control, like the 300 grain 338 Lapua uh is is bananas accurate. I mean, you're you're talking 10 rounds and you don't know where round seven through eight landed. It's just a ragged oblong hole in the paper at 100. It's amazing. So super, like super, super fun to shoot. Um, and then when paired with so um we have a couple of different cans that we're using on it from Thunder Beast, uh, which are their the the SSR 338 can is a massive can, but it is like shooting a 6-5 Creedmoor bear mouse. It is so like the first shot everyone sends through it seems like is two inches low because they're just waiting for this big just this big recoil, and it's not there. So they flinch and they throw that first shot low, and then they put the next five in the same hole. But the for every time they all like they'll shoot and they'll turn around like oh my gosh, there's no like it is there's not enough O's in smooth. It is such a clean break and such a soft recoil impulse for such a massive, you know, round capacity, plus 300 grains of of uh you know, brass and or uh you know, you know, copper and lead getting thrown down the bullet uh down the barrel. So it's a lot of fun to shoot. It's it's it really is a game changer.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and and the other things too, of course, you know, we got the carbon fiber barrels that you guys have been, you know, just knocking out of the park, and then the 12-round magazine double stacked, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yeah. So it's a 12-round magazine. There, there, there are magazines. There, they're uh like people ask, like, what other magazines will work with it? Like Accuracy International Double Stack magazines will work with it. Uh, the magazines are getting folded here, uh, and then we have our follower that we put that or our base that we put on it, and then our follower. So the follower allows a couple things. One is it doesn't stop the bolt from going forward when you're out, so you can hand feed single feed rounds into the top and still run the bolt with the magazine in. Um, and then the base allows two more rounds. So we have a 12-round magazine instead of a 10, which is a big deal for these guys. Sure. Uh, you know, for special operations, 10 rounds sounds like a lot till you know rounds are going both directions, and two more rounds is a big deal. So uh pretty excited about those uh to go along with it. So it's it's we we really did try and think of every single aspect, and we reached out to a ton of guys that we know that are that are still active, that are you know recently retired. What do you think? What what would you like? What is what have you been missing the entire your whole career? If you could change one thing about this system, what would it be? And we we really tried to incorporate a hundred percent of that wish list, and it's been uh like it's it's coming from me, right? But like I work here, but I I really do think we knock this one out of the park and it's gonna be a game changer for both special operations and then civilian shooters that that are in this realm that just wanna want to reach out and touch some targets a distance with a big heavy caliber and do some ELR, but then have the ability to drop it back down to a 6'5 Creedmore, go to a local competition and just hammer dudes.

SPEAKER_01:

So man, it is amazing. And you know, the other one of the other things too, I know it's a a smaller piece on the larger frame of things, but even the ambidextria safety that doubles as a thumb rest. I mean, just everything you guys have, it's just it's so I'm super glad you brought that one up.

SPEAKER_00:

So we actually put a ton of thought into that one. Um, so that was a design where I was like, man, everybody that shoots the hit, that's the number one complaint we get about the hit is it doesn't have a thumbshelf. Doesn't have a thumbshelf, doesn't it? And it it sort of does, but you gotta have long fingers like I do, and you can there's a there's a you know a wedge in there, there's a cutout you can put your thumb in, but it's not like a clearly like oh, that's a thumbshelf. So with the safety, we're like, hey man, what if we just use 700 triggers, like 700 drop-in triggers, but then we manipulate the normal throw lever on top, and we replace it with this big ambidextrous thumb shelf. And that has been so so when we when when Glenn was talking about it, he got he got on fire about the ergonomics and aesthetics of the gun. He he took a trip and the uh him and his wife went down and they rented uh a couple of different like high-end sports cars just to play with, right? You can drive around, have some fun, do whatever. And uh he he liked some, he didn't like some others. There's some features of this, some features that, but he he in particular, he got in a Porsche and he was like, if you just closed your eyes and sat down, right, the steering wheel was right where it was supposed to be, the shifters were right where they were supposed to be, the pedals were exactly set where there should be. Like there's like every, I mean to the millimeter, right? Like every tiny little detail for the ergonomics of that race car were thought out by German engineers and and all their you know, big brains. And and Glenn was like, hey, I want guys to close their eyes and lay down behind the sick and have it feel the same as when I got in that super high-end sports car. I want them to lay down behind that gun and immediately the point of aim is correct. This is where the thumb shell. Like, I don't want them to have to think about anything, they just lay down and it's already there, specifically designed for that. They don't even they don't even realize that it's a thumbshelf that's a safety. Like that's it's it's just that naturally natural feeling to them. So that's a lot of where some of the design features came in. In particular, it started with the safety being a an avidestrous thumb shelf for guys. Um, and that's yeah, every feature was designed with that sports car model in mind, right? Close your eyes, it needs to be right where you think it should be. And that's that's how we designed it. Wow, man.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, that that's the the level of detail and ingenuity that Glenn and your whole team puts into things, it's it's just it's second to none, man. I mean, it it I'd absolutely love everything you guys have put out. Every time I show my sequence rifles to all my friends, um, there's been many orders that have come through. There are people who are just astounded by just the the innovation, really, and and it's in the name, right? And I I'm just I I cannot wait to see this get out there, more people be able to get an eye on it and uh hopefully get behind one as well. Um, is there anything else that that you kind of think we need to touch base on? I mean, obviously, we've got overall length, you know, 47 inches, folded, 37.5. I think we have a 26-inch barrel is standard, right?

SPEAKER_00:

26-inch barrel for the long action, 24-inch for the short action. Uh, as desire comes down the pipe for different guys, we we obviously we keep track of like, hey, I'd really like an 18-inch barrel for this or whatever. Uh, so we'll make some changes based off of market demand. All the nitty-gritty details are on the website. 15.5 ounces naked. Um, it's a big, I mean, it's a big heavy gun. That's like, you know, some of the people that we're chirping at is like, that's a really heavy gun. Like, well, yeah, it's like that's it's not made to to be lightweight. Like weight equals recoil management. These guys gotta see what's happening downrange. They can't afford to shoot and then you know come off target and lose what happens. So the weight is there with that in mind of hey, like that's a big heavy round. It's a big that's that's you know, it's a lot of recoil that needs to be managed, and some of the weight of that gun helps with that. So it is a little bit heavier, but like, hey, you like get to the gym, right? Like, come on, you know, if you want to play, you can act hard, you can be hard, you got to pick one.

SPEAKER_01:

So we can kind of use it as weightlifting if you need to, yeah, right. But that re that recoil management, especially where it where this is necessary, like you said, too, that kind of adjustment people are always bracing for, like, wait a minute, it is a game changer, once again. Of course, comes with the trigger tech diamond two stage, but that is user adjustable as well, too.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, user adjustable, it's also a 700 drop-in. Uh, because of the Amidextrious safety lever, it's not like, oh, let me put this in myself, right? Because we need to like we're we're gonna move some stuff around uh so so that that works, but it's an easy drop-in. You tell us which trigger you want, and we get it, we get it dropped in here at the shop, no problem. So that's amazing. Uh, but yeah, the end user right now is is two-stage uh two-stage trigger. So the trigger tech diamond is awesome, it's user adjustable. So uh I think a pound and a half is factory set, and then you can go down to six ounces or up to up to uh I think three pounds on that trigger. So whatever they're you know, end user in mind is the idea, right? How I like a little bit heavier pole, I like a little bit lighter pole, depending on what they like. They can go ahead and tune it super easy.

SPEAKER_01:

Just make sure you're sneezing away from the trigger when it gets set at that six ounce mark.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, ten, eight, six ounces. Maybe that's that's right now, right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

So boom. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_01:

Matty, uh, thank you once again for joining me. Uh, I I really love catching up with you, and I love talking about sequence precision and all the things on the innovation that you guys are pushing, man. It's it's seriously, it's second to none, and uh, I cannot wait to have uh you know everyone be able to learn more about the sick, and I'm very excited to to share this with everyone.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I can't thank you enough for having us on, man. You're like you're a stud. You're it's one of those people that I met, and I was like, we are gonna be friends. I don't know if he's looking for one, but he's got one now, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Like I yeah, no, I was looking too, man. I was looking.

SPEAKER_00:

So I was just it's it's been like always fun to always fun to catch up with you, and and it's an added bonus that we get to talk about some of the cool stuff that that seekins is doing.

SPEAKER_01:

So indeed. Well, you know, last uh lastly, you know, everyone give him the website, give them the socials. I know it's pretty easy, I'll have them in the notes below, but go ahead and uh lay that out.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh, you know, just wseekersprecision.com for the website, uh seekins underscore official for all the social media stuff. You'll usually find us there. Uh, like I said, usually if you don't see my face in like some of the initial posts, then you're on that we got some you know follower groups and other stuff, they have their own stuff. But looking for this ugly mug, and uh that's that's it'll be mustache or beard or bald or long hair, like the the hair changes by the week. But uh yeah, gotta keep them guessing, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And then for your page, if people want to go ahead and follow you, because you got some great content there as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, uh, it's just Maddie uh M-A-T-T-Y underscore underscore Nelson. Um, and that's you like I just it's just me riding my horses and and playing with Seekins toys, is is all that is.

SPEAKER_01:

So lovely, man. Well, hey, thanks again. And uh next time you guys got the you know the next game changing innovation, let me know. We'll be uh bringing it to the audience. Everyone, make sure you go check out the links below and uh make sure you're following the socials for Seekins for the next update that's coming. And I know you'll be amazed at learning more about the sick. Can't wait for it to get out there, buddy.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you, man. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01:

Cheers.

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