Les Tas d'Amis et Nathalie - Choisir sa terre d'accueil sans perdre sa maison interieure

On croit connaître l’Amérique grâce aux séries. Puis on passe son permis au DMV, on découvre les bus qui ne passent pas, la banlieue qui s’étire à perte de vue… et on construit une vraie vie. Avec Nathalie, on traverse 20 ans d’expatriation: un double cursus validé des deux côtés, un premier job, un mariage, une carte verte, puis la naturalisation sans renoncer à la nationalité française. Son regard clair sur l’immigration légale, le parrainage, et la patience nécessaire évite bien des désillusions à celles et ceux qui rêvent d’installer leur famille aux États-Unis.

Transcript

Présentation D’Eléonore Et Du Concept

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Bonjour, c'est Eleonore et je vous reçois dans l'État d'amis, le podcast des Français aux Etats-Unis. En 2009, je suis partie m'installer aux Etats-Unis. Depuis 13 ans, je construis ma vie familiale et professionnelle sur la côte est, loin de la France. Avec ce podcast, je vais à la rencontre d'autres immigrés français pour échanger sur nos parcours respectifs and mieux comprendre ce qui nous a poussé à prendre le grand large pour de bon. What's it passed after l'installation? Come intégrons to the culture and the view American? Come on, the France from the other code of the Atlantic. I decided to appoint a responses to all these questions, because I demand where we choose to work and what we can in another country. About me, I'm supposed to shoot the community France immigrants, but also find the lien with the Francine of France, as we appear, bonso Nathalie. And with what you are here and what you do in the world.

Arrivée De Nathalie Et Études Aux USA

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Okay. So I'm Natalie, I was here in the Vosges. And I've had the opportunity to finish my students in time partial into the East United, on programs. So what I decided to do with the support of my parents was to work in the United States to finish my day of Subdeco. And on a program of six months long, I had the opportunity to have the two diplomas at the moment. So that's where I was in the East United. It was always a adolescence, to be in the East United, but at the time I was able to get my students, terminate my students, rent in France. And it was 20 years. We were married, so I stayed in the East. After St. Louis, we are at Atlanta. I have another person who had the same scholars like me, who was at Atlanta. She was invited to visit the village, sit the weekend with him, and we decided that it was a lovely village, and we were here at Atlanta. And that was 25 years. And now I visit in a big village of Atlanta. I visit with my family Steve and my two, Kigan and Sophie. My two marriage, to enter the details. In fact, he came from Carolina. And we were here at Atlanta. And in the world, I was a consultant and project on the resources. I went my career in the resources in DRH and 15 years on the DRH, I decided to come to the consulting. I'm entrepreneur and Strasbourg.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

And the call Subdeco you have at Paris?

SPEAKER_00 4:06

I have been at St. Etienne and Lyon. We have a program of exchange with St. Louis. And it was to convey my professors at Subdeco that we have one place, there we have two.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

And when you were in sub de co, what the way of it was presented to you to work or it was presented to me, it's right.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

And as I said, it has always been more. The revival adolescent, you know you have the East United, you have innovations, you know, it's too bad also, the series American, etc. It has always been a thing that I wanted to do, but I wanted to go on vacations. It was that. I wanted to go to the American. And as I had the opportunity for my students, if you say a master in the United States, it's good. I've had the opportunity to get the two programs at the same time. My notes frances have validated many of my work in the United States, my course American have validated many of my demands and my notes in France. So in fact, it's very happening. It has attended, for example, my attendance of six months and all the. So I had a business case to my pair on what will be, what it will do, what are my chances of employee at the time. Because it's like that certain people of my promo of coffee church earlier after finish their curvesses. It's like it's a completely different.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

So it motives your life on your family.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

About a bag, and I have an opportunity for opportunities, and I have also a chance exceptional, and I think I say that my parents, my parents have this project. I'm unique.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

Okay, that's my question. Okay. So it's difficult to work an hour.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

It was very difficult for my mother because we have more than 20 years. And my friend has already been on the route. He worked in the commercial. So in fact, I was with him. And with him and my grandma, we had a lot of time this week. I went to my family at the weekend, when he ran to his life. And so it was difficult for my mother to be done. I would also indicate that after I was just on television after we spent, I posted the question of when I rent. So it was like 20 years that I heard the same question.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Well, you are in France.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

But I went to my pair because my father had said okay. So it was like that. But at the origin, the button of the show was that I was afraid 18 years. So it had been, if you have that on I have to do for the East United. And the life has to be.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

You said I had in the series American, the

Choix De Saint-Louis Et Choc Culturel

SPEAKER_01 8:58

American. Does you happen your mind with the reality of what you've done on that, or the image that I had when I lived at the university? What was happening when you were living at St. Louis, Missouri?

SPEAKER_00 9:10

I've had many chance because at the Missouri, I don't know if I had the opportunity to sit, but it's the Midwest. In fact, I've had a few ways of programmes. I could have always lived at New York, so at Baton Rouge, so at St. Louis. So New York, in too happy, I was a little bit because I had 21 years, but I was parachuted. I visited in a great village in France. St. Etienne is not even, if you know, the great village of France. It's not like I was living at Paris, where I've had the great village, etc. So in fact, New York was a little intimidated a little bit at the moment, batons, but I would not go, because I said if I'm in the East United for 18 years, I don't have Louisiana. There's more influence frances. You can say it's not a little bit prejudiced, but I said if I'm in the United States, until I have a immersive. And St. Louis, if you know, if you have the idea of okay, we'll make the pies on the eyes, but not completely. We are in a village that has a high human, in an island where there's no accent. This is at St. Louis. There's no, but there are many accents. So I have also my profit at Subdeco, who is Caroline of the Sud, who was asked a little bit to join because I've been for my students. I've been to the tourist, etc. I wanted to have my diploma. So in fact, we have all decided that St. Louis was the one point of shooting. It's sure that it's not New York, it's not the California, it's not what you see in the films and the stories, but it's like it is an enverguing very great. So in the Midwest, there's a place. There's a great space. There are great space. For a year where I was at the fact I had a lunch on the campus. But for me, if you want to get what you want, so that it was the first thing, I'm saying, but in France, if you want to where you are, you can put the bus, the train, and your destination. Although the East United, then for the course, it would put the bus. And therefore, the bus in the East United, it's not the most sort of in all the villages of the United States. It's the idea of espace. And I've passed my permissible

Permis De Conduire Américain Et Mobilité

SPEAKER_00 12:02

américain là-bas. So it's another histoire drôle.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Come on, passed the permissible American.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

And then he fell out of the late of Missouri, where we were. And there's two places that are the one at the end of the day. And then in fact, you said it went to the code. So the code, you say in France, where you have to do these attitudes of code, etc. The pannews, the machines, the codes, but in the East United, if you had to replace my perfect condition. And then I went, he ran the big book, but I said at the event it was already on the book, so it had a light, and then you know, I regarded, you know, the panel stop, the machine, you can turn, you can turn on the road when it's rough, because that's just focused on the machine, but it's not like I studied. And we went with me, and I went with me, and I lived at DMV, Department of Material Vehicle. And the mother said, Well, we're inside, etc. And I said, I mean, but we're going to pass also. So I did, but no, it's what? I said, pass the code. And if you pass the code, we'll put the conduct. Okay, well, I'm here. Okay. The big idea is that the code it was already a paper crayon, you said it's old school. My friend planted and a perfect conduct on it, you know. And the dumb instructor who is disponible now. And I've conduit not only the channel of my marriage, you know. And he meant, because I've had my permission français, but I've conduit, it's a automatic, no?

SPEAKER_01 14:08

It's a voiture automatic.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

Ah, but I've had the chance, but I conduis it enough, I conduit a France because you say les Vosges Saint-Etienne, you say when you're at the club, you pass the week-end to remonter. And then if you don't have the voiture, we have a pet of conduit, and they must have the permit. It's like if you've come a little bit observed. It's a bit different, the conduit in the East United. And I will say that just I was on a voice manual at vitesse. But it's like now, you say the age and Atlanta. But then I'm on a voice automatic. It's quite simple. I've got a voice manual during the first three years when I was in Italy.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

It's really funny. It's really good.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

It's really rare. It's rare, but you know, it could be a little bit. It could be much manual are more. It's like you can go, because I've also got two golf manual. So I was on the marks American just for three years. And at the moment I've been an Almond.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

I prefer the marks European.

SPEAKER_00 15:29

And you know, my two marriage and me have also

Vie À Atlanta Et Amour Des 2CV

SPEAKER_00 15:35

a double chevaux. Ah okay, okay. So that's what I mean. We have one chevaux that was imported to Belgium. And in fact, we are the two acquaintances, but we have in Tennessee. And now we promote, you know, you say in our body village of the banlieu of Atlanta with a double chevaux that is black and we appear Maya. And my friend is absolutely completely among the cheaux. That's really good. But this is an idea super, so he would do a double chevaux. And when we are renting for a Noel with my parents, my parents had in Bourgogne, where he lives now, a member who louaised the two chevaux. So in fact he said, But for Noel, Steve has a double chevaux for two or three years. In fact, he said, that it had completely cut the rêve on telling it's not comfortable, etc. And we are renting, and Steve is less than we should have chewed, I've got two chevaux. And we have one, so it has come. We were in both, but in 1963, it's kind of it's quite enough. And he has proved how to renovate, etc. So we promise on the chevaux. We have the local en deux chevaux. L'influence française is toujours là.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Donc raconte-nous ton parcours. Comment tu voulais revenir à Missouri? Donc when you pass the étudiante who married to your boulot, you're installed.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

Don't install Missouri. So what's happening? I was like it was a program d'un programme, I was with a visa student. And at the time of my program at the school, I saw an entrepreneur who had at the time accepted, if you don't have to sponsor, but to enter my visa on a practical training. So in fact I did 18 minutes for

Visa, Mariage, Carte Verte Et Naturalisation

SPEAKER_00 18:02

application the concepts that I had at the life. I don't know if it exists or not, but in fact in the moment my friend and I have decided to marry. So in fact, even if I had, if you have my practical training, I passed directly on the demand of cart by marriage. And so it had been one or two days because it's long. At the moment it was already less, I've had my dossier of immigration, it had already 10 cm. There's a lot of paper, a lot of work. I know that now the people who pass it a little bit automatically, let's say it's like digital, because it's all the time. But in fact, I passed directly on the car. So the cart two days if you have a provision, and after two days you leave the conditionality of the cart. And in fact, I was in the cart then very long. And the reason for the whole I was in cart, it's because I received information contradictory. Because I would keep my nationality france. The way I refuse to pay my nationality France. So that's I had posted the question to other advocacy immigration. If I demand my nationality American, do you pay the France? It was not very clear. So in fact, just the moment where I had confirmation of consul at Atlanta, it's like I did that I will find. But it had a long time because in fact I was American in 2008. So it's not here during 1917, so it was eight years afterwards. And then when I passed by the top of divorce, the fact To put the nationality American at the moment, I've been at the space. It was absolutely that I was sure that I don't have France.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

What is important for you to pay the nationality france?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Because it's me. That was part of my ADN. I'm France, I am France just the year where I decided. Mm-hmm. So that's not a problem. But I have the nationality American because I would also come to voting, wait a little bit if you want to integrate more at the society American. It's like it simplifies a lot of things of the life, to have my passport American, it's important. And there is also a perspective there where I become unique, I don't know if at a moment or another my parents will rejoin in the United States, if I have to have the possibility to sponsor or not. So in fact, I'm also for that. I should have at the moment they have to. I don't know how I'm going to get my life. I don't know if I'll finish my life in the United States or in France. So I think I would have to do it.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

So that's interesting because I have the impression that it's the way to be there after 20 years. In general, for me also lazy perspective. I don't know if the time I will be and I will have enough to rent.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

For me, if you're the East United have been amazing for me. I think I've had the opportunity to have the career that I've been in France. I don't know who they galère, but I've had opportunities enormous. Well, I know that they pass dizes in the same boat, 10-15 years in the same boat. It's not good, it's not very good. The changing, the rapidity of the East United, and what I've done a professional. The opportunity to say to pass here, if you pass two

Identité, Double Nationalité Et Intégration

SPEAKER_00 22:35

years in a boat or three years in a boat, the people will come to regard and say, but what's happening? So in fact, I have one of my among friends, she has passed 27 years in the same boat in the United States, but it's a boat franc, but then I say, But how do you do to pass 27 years in the same entrepreneur? A little bit, right? No, but in fact, if you think in the United States, I've just proved that if you boss, if you boss, that's just the but if you boss, you have the ambition, the sky is the limit. But this is on merit. It's not you know what or papa, it's at your merit at town. And it has always been a thing that I was. We are talking about my amongst for our 50 years collective, because we have 50 years the same day, so we have a big remote in Bourgogne, but we have ready, but there are professors, principal, development of information, etc. We have used it. But it's like when I think I've been a boulder at 9 hours the morning, I'll be at 5, I don't know. There's a part of it of mine who said that in the East United there is a vitesse that really permitted to have a progression professional. I think I've been doing it in France.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

But at the moment, we would not know. We are in surfing on the vague, which is at the second episode, but I think I don't know if it's an energy that we should create in France, or in all things in France we have a mentality different.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

I think that's that, you know, it's a mentality different. I don't know that it's bigger or more or not, it's different. But for me, if you know, I regard when you say if you stay in France or in Italy, but it's 30 years I'm here, it's a little long time that I've been in Italy that I have in France. Psychologically it's fascinating to pass the cap line. My parents view it.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

What does it mean by it has passed the cap là?

SPEAKER_00 25:10

You say it's like the people pose the question if you in francis or you're in English. Anyway, you pose a question because I think completely frankly at 100%, but it's quite long that I've been here. Don't be afraid you pose the question because it's right. You say the foot, if the France does better than the East United, you say you say very well who you support. So that's clear. But if you say, I think performance, if you pose the question is I don't know plus American, but if you parle to my parents, they won't say that you parle français with an accent américain. It's a bit different. No, that's not changed. It has also been, if you have a point, you say the point, but it's not frankly changed. You can check, you say, at the maison, you can have a reference française at two points of the murder. The first thing, if you know, when the people present, is bonjour, I'm Nathalie, I'm in France.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

And the double nationality.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Although I have a double nationality, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:37

It's kind of married. It's like I've got this podcast, but also when you change, because it's kind of a park, the immigration. When you go to a visa at the country, it's a parcour. It's the attack of the immigration. So it's interesting that you say to me, with the double nationality, that your franchise is quite the way that's prevalent when you're talking about it.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

But it's interesting because the person that I want the first time, we're frankly, but generally

Mérite, Carrière RH Et Vitesse Américaine

SPEAKER_00 27:18

what I'm saying is that now I'm originally franc. Because it's like a nice professional person, I reflect kind of American. I don't know how to explain that, you know, but I'm my life of consultant, I appreciate it. So it's part of my life professional and American.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

And then, what is it?

SPEAKER_00 27:48

We have the two chew, so it's not. Après, if you have, but I've got a pet obsession for the flowers of lead. But you have a flowers of lit, you have a portrait of the tour Eiffel, you have a things like that, if you know it was part of there's a chance enormous, is that my mother has always been francophone. Francophile. He said he said, when I was gaming, I had in my chamber, my mother had made a poster or representations of paint frances. It was always, you know, he said that at a moment or another he has married with a franchise.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

But he had experience.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

And like I said, it's the first I would have a two show, but it's like it is not so long. I would like to have a very great truck or a sport, you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

So at Atlanta, for example, is that you don't have signs cultural franc in your maison, but is that you can cuisine francore all the years?

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Alright, I am probably the cuisinian of the planet. It's not an idea of cuisine franc or cuisine American, it's a cuisine too cool. So if you know, that's not no. My money is cuisining, and when he cuisines, he said very well that it should make it. For example, the bœuf bourguignon of mom. So that's when my mother visited, then we're in mois d'ountain, it's not great, but he'll make a bœuf bourguignon. So there are things that are. If you have a big period of bureau or something like that, my mother will make cookies.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

So my wife has really been influenced by the culture frances.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

And he is me, if you do at 500%. But at the moment it is on the pail. But I say that we are in Espace in this day, so I think that has a lot to do. But it's like my family in passing, now my family lives in Bourgogne. So when we are in Bourgogne, it's like the great Bourgogne, they have go, let's say that. Because we have who were restaurants, but like we went, they were in their cave at each other, not the cave of restaurant, but their cave to them, they started the great bourguignon. My family has developed a good goal a little bit. It's not a piquette. So it's very adapted to marry a franchise. But it's who does the cuisine. So it's like he decided generally to make influence, I would say European. For example, Thanksgiving, we have two, but we'll have a racelet. So it's uh, and he's like the nourishment franchise.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

But in fact, it's not to have a person who has a passenger, that's it. It's good.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

He has a passenger, but he had it was pretty to be a pas, it's not my friend, it was difficult.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

My American 100%.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

It was a little bit different. Let's say that's the reality of the life, yeah. Exactly. And encore, you say my two marriage, it's seven years that we are somewhere, it's 14 hours that we are married, so it's not. But for the Eita United have a chance to importe these from, not a machine that have been triple pasturized, which are not good.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

I know, but I say, I say, I have the right to rely until you know I'm very much like when I'm in France, you know.

Culture À La Maison, Cuisine Et Traditions

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Don't know what I know with long time.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

But for you, what's that what are the secrets of an integration réussie or an immigration réussie after 20 years?

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Alright, so there are two things. L'immigration passed by the administrative of the immigration, it has the patience. My dossier of immigration after I was American, etc. Louis, which is a village very big. So we're enormous. The difference is enormous. It's not to reveal. One of the things that I've had is that when I commenced all my paper immigration, my carte, etc. I decided, I must say, I'm not plus bad than another, I will get my paper. I've been an avocado. I've been an avocado, I've had two paper, etc., etc. But I arrived at Atlanta. So that was for American when I passed the nationality, I've had an avocado. Because for me, I wanted to have it, blessed or no, no, black, then it's great, etc. And I've been very fair because in fact they had an error in my contact of my days in cart. And like my avocado was with me the year of the enterprise, etc., it would remake the random. And this is the year where I've had my dossier of immigration, which as I said, it was 10 cm. With all the paper, etc., the photos, the phone. So I did not know. I already put an avocado in the day. In terms of back and forth, the paper that works, it is quite very bureaucratic. But now it's automatic, so it's good. Don't you put an avocado. In terms of integration, like I said, I did, I know I respect frances in premier, but for me, there's an over that it is. You can stay frankly, but it's not the point, it's not say nothing after. Immersive you. So it's fashion that I made. I don't respect, you know, in my big group of franc with France, you know. I have the shape, I was the only friend in St. Louis, I did not have other friends. So in fact, it was it just integrated, I've had the shape. And have that opportunity to know that the things are different. And also say that if you have the show to immigrate, it's a shape that you have. There are decisions that are made for you that you don't have to be. You should also have a comparison with what you've had, which is different now. You have the eyes and it's a shit that you have. But with the show, there are the consequences, and now you have the show, it's like that. You should just accept. So when I was 21 years, it was simple. When you say that are my age and who pose the question of if now I immigrate the East United, it's a little bit more difficult. Because there's not the same or the flexibility at 20 years or at 20 years that if you have 50 or plus.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

When you pens to the rêve American that we have on text when you have arrives, and that transforms in a very parcours, it's a parcours, you say.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

And I did demand the chômage, but I've had what I've had 22 or 23. So I'm gonna pose the chômage. And the chômage pay tes. It pays tortures. You say it's a barème, it's not even based on

Mariage En Bourgogne Et Cultures Entremêlées

SPEAKER_00 38:44

how you have, or 80% of what you've got during two years, three times, etc. T'as a maximum of 26 months. At the point, it's not changing, but in the day, it depends also the time.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

And how do you have faith already at this moment?

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Rapidly, okay. You can boss. So it has touched, like the mérite, in fact. But you can't pour. I don't know how to explain it.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

You can't be au chômage.

SPEAKER_00 40:07

You can go to being au chômage. If you go to the Italy, so you go to visit and you're a tourist, or already you go to the Italy to boss. I think you have a demi-milie, you know. And the retraite now, you know, you capitalists for your retract, because it's not the retraite that you can receive the government that will also permett to survive. You have a lot of retraiters who boss, um, if you are sure of toi. If you're here, you should be sure that you can, I don't know how to explain. But have the tent on the epoch, it's not what you know, you say what you know in the series American, the Kim Kardashian, the machine in style, it's not even the reality American. That's true and certain. But it's what you see at the television. So it's like a certain experience. And once you want to, also I think for the people who have already traveled in France or who have their first career in France and they don't go in the East United after a different career, I think that's difficult. I think it will have a trip, because you have the habit, if you want, to have a little bit of support at niveau social and governmental. If you say that you're not. It's not that you feel, if you're successful, and that's the show.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

And you said that you're 100% français. What is your relation with the community français?

SPEAKER_00 42:23

Atlanta, we have a community française. I would hopefully say that I'm what I did, success on the chair. I bought a permit franchement to integrate enormously to associations local. He is in the same place that I'm franciated, he is in Britain. So we go and do yoga. My amount, who is in fact or more reason for the whole time we have done at Atlanta, Atlanta. We are the most among me at Sub de Co, and we are all the two at Atlanta. I'm the marraine of her family. We are, and one of my bad among them and long. He went to dénage at Atlanta in couple of years.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

It's like a réseau, but it's not for the year. No, it's a American.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

So in fact, we had a few at one of the reasons of Alliance France, we were invited by the beauty of the university, and I had proved at the moment that it was very snob, that you had the Americans who promise their franchise, you know, like oh my God, we are part of the Alliance of the France, I think a little francist. It was a little bit that I was like. And I said, I have an among them, for me, I've just been to have, if you have an integration with the association local.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

No, but that's a good idea. It's not an equilibrium entrepreneur. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

And we have my 50 years, but the 50 years it was interesting because

L’Amérique Des Régions: Midwest, Sud, Grandes Villes

SPEAKER_00 45:20

we had a party, one of American, the people mixed ensemble, because it had been that I've been the same group of people. It's sure that it's always the same. And the two cultures mix. So in fact, six months ago, we had decided to have a party, a two marriage in France. And I did it or at the ease, but it was difficult to do. So in fact, we have a friend that we had just been a benediction of our life.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Do you think that administratively it was difficult to do?

SPEAKER_00 46:22

No, religiously it was difficult. Administratively administratively, it's very happening because our marriage American has been recognized by the France. You have just to buy a copy of your certificate of marriage that was produced. And it's integral to your life of family. So I have a life of family like the religion it was a little bit difficult because my family and my we were two divorcing, so it was a little bit difficult to be Catholic, by the place Bourgogna. Oh but they have not asked me at the time we sit in a little village of Bourgogne, and there's a super petition at Montba, there's a village that's Montreal, it's magnificent. But for example, the mairie would not that there were Americans who marry. But we are in Bourgogne, a big village of Bourgogne, so there are many traditions. And for remote, on the six among them we had for our marriage in France, 44 were American.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

But our married married in Bourgogne, in France, it's the franchise.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

And he is married in kilt because he is originally ecossais. So in fact, for each, if you're here to have a marriage at the francaise, they don't have to. So it's that my group has been the two cultures.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

It's a souvenir.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

My parents are happy. You see, the market at the place of the place. It's not the same thing, but also my mom has already said the first time he was in France with me, but he had no passport after me. And the first time he was in France, he said, But we think that the France is Paris, that too the France releases to Paris. And in fact, you say when you arrive at Charles de Gaulle, you are one, to arrive from the Bourgogne. He said, Nathalie, but you can tell the Roma they don't march. Although they have very little hair proportionally. One year I read my marriage, he had the what you want. I said, But you've got the building, how it is magnificent. I said, But what is the post? Because if you know, it's normal, but it's very that when you sit here, your definition of the history, of the culture, etc., it's completely different. And if you're different because it's different from an eight or another. It's very different from an eight to another. You can say in France, it's right that it's not at Marseille or Strasbourg, okay, but it's a culture regional, it's that it's very regional. I was at Des Moines in a year, it's completely different at Tanta. I was in Ohio this week, and it's happy. It's not Manhattan, it's a lot of Manhattan. So it's also if you want to say the vision you have of America that is completely different from an event to another.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

It's good to discover also

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SPEAKER_01 51:28

if you have the possibility.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

I have the chance to have. For me, I've had a lot of time on the professional at New York. I don't know. It's like my life American has been culturally influenced by the great space into the Missouri and the south of the East United, where we have the place for to do. Vivre at Manhattan or visit at Chicago, in the great villages where the money is telling difficult to have.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

So now when you talk to the France, what that is? When you say to the France, to your parents later, what's difficult at the moment because my parents view and I'm unique.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

So I'm not I don't know it's an obligation moral, but it's a lot. We have always been a very big family. So for me, what I do after. So I pose the question at the moment. For being very fresh. It doesn't say that I live exactly the same where my parents are, because I don't know, there's a certain independence. But there are questions that pose, there are problematics that pose. My hair is in return.

SPEAKER_01 53:13

He is over eventually.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

It is over when he was in corporate American. He said that it was 15 years that you said we're renting in France. He said the carotte is too pourri. You say the carrot that you have to bourricot, you promised that.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

It's good to have the support of your parking lot.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

There are people who would not be absolutely right. For example, I've been a little reticence, I would say, or a little bit of inconvenient. Do you work in France? Are there a new regards, um, parameters that are not regimented, let's say that the East United.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

So that's a great question. It would have a boat, a boat American, that depends on what is the culture.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

So that's the one I pose a question if I have colleagues uniquely frankly. I don't know. I'm working on a boat that is on the global, or the international, because I'm perfectly bilingual, so I don't perform that. Anyway, I have a little franc, but we have entered after the conversation. If I change my words in franc, but it's like, you made it in the franchise for two or three years, it remains completely. After I rent the Italy, I don't know a moment in English, but that's other things.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

So a question at this moment for the questionment.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

It's a line of reflection, I'll say that. Because at my age I'm already, if you think I've been a quinza days at boss. I'm not the return anticipation. I'm going to be active, make marching the road, etc. So I pose the question: is that it's time to because it's right that the American is rapid, very rap. I don't know that the life frankly is a little bit cool, but it's different. And I pose the question it was 20 years that I bought all the time for. The reussit is, but it's bad. There are vacances that I've been reading because I was professional. There are ways that I've been because I was professional, there are ways that I knew because I was professional. People with the time, it was time to the 15 years to make a lot of different. So that was a little it's a problematic very reflex at the moment. Let's say that.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

And you can just the ambition is to have this

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SPEAKER_01 56:30

liberality to be a city, you know. You can pass a little bit in France, but it's not for the.

SPEAKER_00 57:23

When you see the price of the bill of you and say what you want with the avions at the moment and they pick on plaque or what it's like, it's difficult to get the all-retour when you.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

We arrive a little bit at the end of the entretience.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

Is there a chance that you would partake and that you have fortagent during the entretience, but you say, I think we've got, but in resume, you say I've got many things on the group of Facebook. We install in the East United, we have the rêve to install in the East United. I would say that happens, it's not really. If you have the release of the Italy, passive vaccines in the United States. But if you have really the rise to install in the United States, we have really the immigration, it's the first of the things to do. It's not in arriving here and saying, it's easy, we're invited, we will install it. It's not the way we have the work in Europe of other people where we can install not more facilitately in Spain or in the other places of the community. The immigration and the immigration is a point enormous. And I told people there's the reveal, the reveal that I have, but also the point where you have if you have a family, if you have if you have a charge familiar, it's really to say what we can do with immigration. And that's that. Because it's a good, it's very regimental, the card, the lottery of the cart, etc. That's just a little bit 10 years that I'm here. I've got a lot of people who have their carry, with the conjunction government at the moment. I don't know if it will exist. I don't know. I don't know if it's complicated. I don't know if they want to. So you have that. After it should say that if we have a certain certain expectation, but I've got the word. attendance on the way of if I'm not bad, I can survive the besides of my family or my dose of courage, a certain dose of patience. But as I said, the reality is the phrase to return. But it's right that it's a magnificent, merely. I've enormously had the chance to do some children. Have a support familiar is important also. For example, I don't know if I'm gonna say my family, if I'm already because if you have if you are too good to see your point d'orage, I have my point of. And I'm also a mari who permit professional to make what I'm saying, to make the heart. Because it's like if you have a family with people who have these activities, etc, etc, you can also say that in the college, we have these public, but generally the reputation are limited. If you have a family that you can have an enormous financial because the collection is the crèche, etc are very sales American oh my God, we're gonna get more, but there's enormous it's relative to the niveau of view. Exactly. That's exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Because I think we have the impression that the niveau the niveau of salaire are a little bit more de la classe moyenne.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:52

Même avec mon salaire des budgets parce que if we have a pépin de santé, oui d'accord, même si on travaille we're quand même employant but there are franchise that are very sant you have medical

Réseaux, Communautés Locales Et Alliances

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

for example I have an implant cochlear that has been made in place. It's like when you change a support at this niveau in France, I feel like I think I'll be in Paris just for finish, what's your mari is retracting, but he has an activity the weekend he went around or my weekend officially Corporate America and has decided to get a petery board, there's nains on bois, there are peindrees the weekend professional normal and the weekend we have festivals. So we have to the talk of Noël etc the names of Noel Deco that are we say that be a entrepreneur in the United because it was part of the rêve American saying I'm my boat, I'll get that but there's a lot of bureaucracy in France. I think he had that on saying that it's occupying. So it's my pass time but the pass is 40 hours per semaine, that's clear. It's a travail à temps plein it's a travail à temps plein d'ailleurs I will get a little but nbst88.com we'll see what the logo of business is in fact it's a floor of lit and at the interior you have the tartan you have the tartan of his original and the NBST88 Nathalie Bresson is me. ST is Steve Thompson 88 is the department of Vosges. Ah d'accord okay in the business the Vosges are there. D'accord we are live for the commencement design local activity extra professional on that. Ouais ouais c'est super natal merci beaucoup c'était vraiment super this entretien j'apprécie énormément et si quelqu'un in the community does have information of questions of what it is, I'm a living aid to facilitate their integration or what it is, I'll send it. If you have a gentleman Atlanta who don't want contact or questions aucun problem to participate, etc, so I joined I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Facebook.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

D'accord, but super merciful if you are less and if you have this episode just at the time I went a very bad or night and I will very