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Revelation 10 Post Breakout Room Wrap-up

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SPEAKER_04

There you go.

SPEAKER_01

All right. You guys you guys can hear me now. Um I I don't know why. I was just reminded in our group to uh tonight. I was reminded of this story of um these two crab apples we have in our yard, and they're really beautiful. They're I have two, so one's on one end, one's on the other. And um, they were something was going wrong with them. So I hired a arborist to come in and tell me, you know, what we could do to fix them. And we got in this conversation, and for years I it was kind of bothering me. This one one crab, well, I didn't know it was a crab apple at the time, but they were just flowering, right? But this one tree would only produce one one piece of fruit, like one crab apple every year. And I'm like, what is going on? Like, why I'm doing everything, I'm fertilizing, I'm treating it, and like I'm working really hard to make sure these trees are healthy. And so as we're talking to him, I'm like, yeah, can you explain why we only get one like one fruit from this one tree and not both of them or not more? And he's like, Oh, I can, yeah, I can explain that. He's like, Look at this. Um, it was this one branch that it would grow off of every single year. He's like, so basically, um, he said these trees were um like engineered in or like I don't know what the right word is, but like made into like a hybrid version where they don't produce fruit, they only flower because some people don't want all the fruit making a mess in their yard. And what what happened here was that this one branch went back, it grew um back into its original design. So I it like it was so prophetic to me. I'm like, wow, like that's really what um this is all about, like is us discovering our original design and not, I mean, you know, and not not having that mixture of law, like having the law just blinds us to that original design. But when we when we realize Christ is in us and realize our union in God, like we're coming back into that awareness of our original design and celebrating that, you know. And um, and I know that wasn't necessarily a part of this chapter tonight, but I was just thinking about it, even I don't know why, but like even just that commentary in verse 10, the eating of the word celebrates the incarnation is just again, it's just celebrating um like what's true, which is Christ in us, and that we are his body, you know, corporately but also individually. And um, yeah, so that's my little story.

SPEAKER_05

Go ahead, Adrian.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that that was a great chapter. Um, I was just thinking we talked about a lot of things actually in our group. It was quite fun. A lot of fun, but um yeah, so we we talked about like hell and like there's no hell. We talked about everything, like man, we really went we talked about apostatosis, uh Jesus filling all things. Um we talked about like um God, well, I I thought about it's like almost like God's persuading the Jews, you know, um to get over the law and you know to not to get judged in in Jerusalem and to and to you know come and come to Jesus and just you know get with the program. That's how I kind of get the feeling written and this incredible resonance of this powerful covenant of new covenant, and just the the lion roaring, you know, the it is finished through us, we are the it is finished, and the roaring through us, we are the we are that law, that law comes through us as well. It's finished, there's nothing, everything's being done. It's like all things are completed. It's like just silence and awe and wonder, and it's just like so beautiful the wording, and it's just like it seems I don't know, I just get like it's an imitation to the Jews just to get you know, just get over the law and come get through the program of love of of Christ. And it's just beautiful. Um, yeah, beautiful scriptures. And there's so much riches in in everything here, it's just rich with the glory.

SPEAKER_05

There we go. Thank you. That was great. That was great.

SPEAKER_04

Anyone else? Anyone?

SPEAKER_06

I really one of the things that we talked about a lot in our group, and I think Bonnie brought this up, is about when you you eat the sc when you eat the scroll and it's sweetness on your tongue, but it's bitterness in your your stomach, and um yeah, there are a lot of different things that could be the sweetness and the the bitterness. So one of the things is that this I love um one of the backsters always said, once you get this message, it's like going back to the whole message is like vomit. You know, this is so sweet, but along with this sweetness also comes a lot of persecution. And um with the truth, it's it's so wonderful that you know that you're so on fire for it, but then also on the other side, you also get persecuted for it. And John was all also on the island of Padamos, which means obviously he was being persecuted, right? So, and we know Paul was, and a lot of the apostles were because of this message, but I love when he ate the scroll and then he went out with a different message, and that's the mystery of Christ in you. So that was really good. Jesse, I saw your hand up.

SPEAKER_00

That was an accident, but anyway. Um I was in Adrian's group too. We had we had a good time, but one thing I saw in you know, in the verse um which whichever verse he was gonna he was gonna um write, oh, in verse 4, he was gonna record what he was seeing, but but then the voice said not to, but rather to seal the saints and silence it. You know, I think the previous chapters before this was a lot of incarnation, you know, Christ God becoming flesh. And here it's almost like like he's now he's going into like instead of talking about it showing like Hebrews 1:1, you know, God has spoken to us in fragrances and glenses and prophetic thought, but now the son is here, he's showing us who the father is like and who you know who we are like. I I don't know. I think that's what's going on. And then another thing that Adrian, we talked a little bit about like this really part of the reason all this symbolism is necessary, is because I'm thinking this is written to a mostly Jewish Christian church, and and they have all these, they have all this imagery in their head already because of the Old Testament. So he's really using all this imagery to speak to their minds to convince them over and over and over of this is the Messiah that the Old Testament had written about, and you better pay attention because because you know, I think probably right after it is the destruction of Jerusalem happens. I'd never quite understood maybe the necessity of that kind of imagery as much as I do now, because of their minds is already full of that. So that was the language that it took to like really get them to see that this really is the Messiah that was spoken of all through Old Testament, anyway, over poop emoji. What does that mean? Huh. So stinking good, that's what it means.

SPEAKER_05

Stinking good. Go ahead, Bonnie.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, what I I was just gonna say that, Jesse. What I uh what I saw when it said um it's related to the Old Testament that it spans the ages of time, but so many images came up from so many stories, like the pillars and the cloud and the fire. And we mentioned even the belly, which Pat brought back maybe to like even Jonah, like you know what I mean, like so many related to things that the people back then would have known about. Um so that's what I just wanted to bring up. It was kind of already what you said, but I was gonna ask Pat if he could share that image of the eagle in the cage and relate it into the message. Um, because I thought that was interesting. I don't really like have a way to bring that in, but I thought you remember the story about the caged eagle.

SPEAKER_04

So uh what? Anyway, you know, the in Romans eagle story. I just we were talking about, you know, remember he's writing the message, he's being a scribe, and he's told not to write it anymore. But now the it the book is a little revelation and he eats the revelation. And I and I was saying that, you know, even though the God is super, super complex, really the message of the gospel is super, super small, and the essence is really small and really easy, actually. But he eats it and it be the he becomes the message now. Just like, in other words, we become the message. Christ is the message, but now we're image bearers, we become the message, and it's like the eagle story. When we go out now, you know, people are they're all image bearers, but they're like the eagle that's been a captivity, the the door's open. You know that in Romans, Francois's eagle story, and then it doesn't know how to fly, and everybody's disappointed until they hear the cry of us, the other eagles, the other image bearers, and then it naturally does what it's been designed to do. It starts producing a apple, a crab apple.

SPEAKER_06

One crab apple. One crab apple. One crab apple.

SPEAKER_04

All right, there we go.

SPEAKER_05

You done, Bonnie? Yes. All right, go ahead, Amy.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, um, another thing was um the goodness of God. Um, we were talking about like his character and his nature, and like how our children, like they go to churches and stuff, and then they they like get forced to worship and stuff, and then they get like and they hear all these gospels of legalism, and how like children are getting so like put off guard by by the false gospels, by the gospels of the penile substitution God, the God who's angry with this Jesus and turns his face, but that's not the one in the Bible because there's no such God in the Bible. He that He was like lovingly with Jesus on the cross and with you know the Holy Spirit and Jesus. We discussed that as well, and also how good God is, and he's not like this bad God, and and our children get distracted and they get like pulled away because they get they think God's religious, because they get to hear all this religious nonsense in these churches, and even these good, really good churches that are getting that even believe in the Holy Spirit and even get touched by the Holy Spirit, they force children to worship and stuff like that. And they they they use legalism and they they got all kinds of mixed law and grace. And this whole chapter is is like really about getting out of legalism, out of the old covenant, and it's relevant to us because we're getting out of this old this old covenant uh kind of church entity that's that's still um in infecting us and our families and our and people around us and turning people away from God. So it's very relevant to us as well, and it's it's really it's really something that that actually applies to today that that we need to be finished with that law, you know.

SPEAKER_06

Very good, Adrian. Bonnie uh Bonnie, Polly, Polly, Polly.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, wow, that was good too. That's good. Um, yeah, I I just really liked um in verse three where he said, and he cried with a great voice, which sounded like the roar of a lion. When he cried, the seven thunders spoke. And I love the commentary. I mean, and I and I loved how Patrick said that the roar of the lion is because it came with great authority, and um, I love it because now, in the light of what the Lamb accomplished, the line of Judah's voice is heard, and that very voice is inside of us, and now we're roaring with that authority, not in a mean way, but the roar that's within us, the love and the compassion and the mercy and the goodness of God that leads all men to this place of having union with the Father, with with God, and that very roar is inside of us now because of what he's done, and and it's with authority, and we don't have to have a beating uh uh uh baton or anything hitting anybody with it, just the words of love and life that come out of us, man. The trunk, anyway. Um, yeah, so I just really got a lot out of that one right there. I love you guys. Anyway, that's it.

SPEAKER_06

That was a good volley volley. Oh, more people are sending up drinks. What kind of group is this turning into? Anybody else? No one wants Okay. I actually have to as Keisha's son after I turn it off, she'll probably talk. Okay. Stop recording.