PeTtY has NoLuv

In this episode, the guys from PLM sit down with Raw, the visionary behind NoLuv. He takes us through his early beginnings, the spark that led him to open the restaurant, and the grind, growth, and grit that shaped his journey.

We’re also joined by Blu Minatti, J PIMP, and Ms. Juliette, who share their personal connections with Raw, how their paths aligned, and the impact NoLuv and MMG has had on their creative and professional worlds.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Good morning my neighbors! Hey f you! Yes! Yes! F you talk!

SPEAKER_13 0:13

Celebrity marriages, they never last do they? So fellas, I got a plan so we can all make some heavenly.

SPEAKER_06 0:23

You're now listening to Petty Lives Matter Podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Always a bit of I like it, I like it. I'll stand on the rolling and I'll fit the while. But got a hole break of work right from the house.

SPEAKER_13 1:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:46

It is I, the humble messenger. Back in the building. Motherfucker, Chuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:52

Hey, hey, hey, what's that?

SPEAKER_11 1:55

Hey, it's your boy. Big name, aka Mr. Cut You Wall, because my point is more important than yours. Yo, fellas, guess what?

SPEAKER_14 2:02

What's that?

SPEAKER_11 2:02

I told y'all last week I gotta bring it back again. Now we got special guesses. Mm-hmm. In the building. I spell it. Guesses? It's got two guesses. It's Googla book. Yeah. Googleable. Googlable. It's Googla book.

SPEAKER_13 2:15

That's my guess where it comes out too.

SPEAKER_08 2:21

Whoa. I ain't never wear guesses. Oh, my bad.

SPEAKER_12 2:24

I ain't never Bongo. I never remember from the Zuland or Book of uh.

SPEAKER_11 2:32

Hey, I don't know, because it's a different world. I was just gonna say if you ever saw a grown man with bongos on, but nigga, we in Duball County, but anything matter library coming out. Hey, we here though, but we got some special guesses, y'all. Who we got in the building, man? We're gonna start to my right.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

I'm Rosana, formerly known as Juliet. Formally no. Formally no.

SPEAKER_11 2:57

Romeo and Juliet. We slide over one two times to my left. Who we got? J Pimp in the house, man. J Pizzy?

SPEAKER_10 3:08

No, man.

SPEAKER_11 3:09

Real toe. And next to Pimp, who we got? Mr. Raw from No Love. What the fuck is up? That was my shit.

SPEAKER_08 3:21

What the sound boy? Who just said before we get back to the town?

SPEAKER_13 3:27

That nigga was going to get it. I put the sound on there next week. The old boy we was using.

SPEAKER_11 3:34

I don't know where that's at. Yeah, no. I mean, they got something to do with it. Who got it? Something about something about birth or something about it. I don't know what that. Hey, we're gonna move on though, man. Nah, we ain't gonna move on. What are we gonna do? Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_14 3:49

I was inspired by Schwartz last week. Okay, oh week before last, and he said something about uh, uh-oh. Tokyo shit. Yes, uh. Who birthed us? I don't know. Shit, it seemed like I think me and you. I thought we had a conversation. Uh-huh. And then we called these two MFers. Right? No, I'm sorry. Not two. We called motherfucking Chubb.

SPEAKER_11 4:07

Motherfucking Chuck.

SPEAKER_14 4:08

And then we call and we called JB. And we did. And then we formed what we have now as Petty Lives Matter. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. And we asked that out on a phone call. Was this nigga in the gym shooting with us?

unknown 4:20

Nah, man.

SPEAKER_14 4:21

I don't even think he lasted skinks up. I don't think he laced his skin.

SPEAKER_11 4:26

I don't think he's shooting in the gym, but he got the sound. But he does got a bow up. He got a bow up. I'm gonna do that shit a couple more times. My bad, nah, my bad.

SPEAKER_14 4:38

Nah, I ain't even finna start no petty stuff, man. But hey. It's too late. Y'all really need to calm down. No, for real. People need to calm down. Cause I you know what I'm gonna firm with. We ain't rattled. It's the narrative. Like people will say, people try to control the narrative, right? And that's a good segue because when we're talking about Mr. Raw over here, a lot of people have changed the narrative because when you talk about Duvall Legends, I'm not from Duvall, but when you get here and you learn about people who was coming up and putting people on and helping people quiet behind the scenes, man, touching everybody. Paul's just a case of that. Paul's just in case of that. We know what he said. We know what he said. We know what you're doing. Hey, hold on.

SPEAKER_12 5:18

It'd be Kurt. You always want to say everyone was above 18.

SPEAKER_14 5:30

Kurt gonna have about three rounds. Possible. I'm gonna have seven possible moments because my age bracket says that I can talk freely without being accused of being a good thing.

SPEAKER_13 5:44

Kurt grew up in the time before the dictionary was completed.

SPEAKER_08 5:53

Who with the whole part? It's Dubart here.

SPEAKER_11 5:58

Hey man, I gotta go to work tomorrow. Don't do that. Hey, don't be putting that shit on my pocket. Don't stop that shit. Hey, that's my other shit. I don't know. Okay. I don't want no part. Let's keep it moving.

SPEAKER_12 6:12

Bloominati and this motherfucker. Bloominati.

SPEAKER_11 6:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

MMG represent them. Oh man.

SPEAKER_11 6:20

Hey, and we're gonna get there too because that was way before Ro. No worry about it. That was before Rose came with it with an MMG. We're gonna talk about it though. We're gonna get there. But let's start um Ro. Where did where did you come up with No Love out of that?

SPEAKER_12 6:34

Well, No Love was uh my group that I started with, you know what I'm saying, way back in like uh like 98, 99 type shit. And uh they were basically my homeboys and some people that I used to go in the hood and we used to just like just kick it and shit, and they could rap and I was like, fuck it, let's just make a fucking group out of the shit, you know what I'm saying? And uh and unfortunately, you know, we uh tried to do our thing in Jacksonville, and you know, we put together this fucking awesome album called Who to Trust. But back then, you know, nobody was really fucking with rap in Jacksonville trying to do shows and shit like that. And uh our first show was like in Atlanta and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? So we was like in a freak neak in the middle of downtown and shit, man. Like crazy shit, you know what I'm saying, on stage. That is actually the first time I seen niggas do a mosh pit. And that was like way back then, you know what I'm saying? Like, them Atlanta niggas been doing shit like that, but yeah. So uh the reason why I'm wrong for No Love is because, you know, when we came back from that show, we couldn't get another show in Jacksonville because there wasn't no venues doing shit. And so everybody went back to the streets. This shit just wasn't a viable fucking dream for anybody. And behind that, you know, my homeboy died. Late great go, shout out to him. You know what I'm saying? And uh and what really motivated me to be who I am, because you know, I was stuck in the, you know, I went, we all went back to the streets. Niggas getting locked up, everybody went to jail, you know, all kinds, shout out to T Dirty, he's dead as well. Just uh, you know, he was part of no love as well. Uh and that was the fucking problem, you know what I'm saying? And when my homeboy passed, uh I remember uh his obituary in he we were all young, 1920 and shit like that. And I remember his obituary, he didn't have anything on that motherfucker. You know how you have notable shit, which he done did. The only thing on there was that he was part of this group no love. And I said, Oh, this is the last thing he had his voice on, so I'm going to push that shit night and fucking day. And that's when I became Raw for No Love, you know what I'm saying? Because I was always saying, hey, I'm Raw for No Love, you know, this is my group, blah, blah, blah. And that's how I started selling CDs, like, for real, because I was like, if this is the last thing that his voice was on, and this was like the biggest thing he's ever done in his life for to be on his obituary, then I'm pushing my dog, you know what I'm saying? I'm riding for my people. And so, man, I was at, I was up all night at every club, I was at every flea market, I was everywhere selling this CD, pushing this CD. That's how everybody fucking knew me. Because that's what started the hustle was, you know, my homeboy Go passing away, and this was there was nothing here. And that's what made me do everything I did as far as create venues and avenues for other people to be able to perform. Because I felt like they would still be alive if they had something tangible to make them say, I can do this, and this can be a reality, I can feed my family off this.

SPEAKER_11 9:53

So let me ask you a question. Is um it is very rare that you see somebody go from um uh that touch three genres. Like from genre is music, bro. I ain't say I was I ain't say nothing about yeah, man, I'm on point, but anytime Kurt can't touch. That's a turn of the card.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

That was a reader.

SPEAKER_12 10:21

But um I bet he thought about pause.

SPEAKER_11 10:23

Yeah, he was he was ready to try to but uh from um from hip-hop to uh to uh the the the Christian rap to rock.

SPEAKER_12 10:34

Never did Christian rap. Yeah, he never did Christian rap.

SPEAKER_11 10:38

So you wouldn't call it what would you what would you call that?

SPEAKER_12 10:40

Well what happened was uh I not I just stopped doing music. I got saved and uh I did I dropped everything, you know what I'm saying? I ran with the devil for so long and I went so heavy and hard for the devil that once I finally said uh I want to do something different, I said I'm gonna give I'm gonna give God the same energy I gave the devil. So uh I I quit everything cold turkey. I mean shit, uh there's people here that can contest to that, you know. I was like everything, and I was just man, you you can't you can't put a number on peace, you know what I'm saying? Enjoy. And that's what I was looking for, you know, because man, I man, I was living really good, man. I was man, I was living good, man. I was man, I was selling drugs, I I had a club, I had a studio. I mean, man, uh I was touring all over, I was going everywhere. I was, man, I was happy and content as fuck, man. You know what I'm saying? But I wasn't, I mean, I didn't have any joy in my life, you know what I'm saying? And a pastor moved in next to my uh club and came over looking for a screwdriver, and uh he was like, Yeah, you know, I'm starting to church, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, whatever, yeah, I it's whatever. And then when he came to me and he was like, Man, I see you got a lot of things going on, but do you really have joy? And I said, and I thought about it, and to go back to my story about, you know, hustling in the streets, it was this dude that, you know, when I was out here selling CDs and shit, he would always buy a CD. But man, he had like the biggest Kool-Aid smile on his face every time I see him. He was about my age, and he would just be like, just so happy, just like smiling. And he'd be like, Man, I don't listen to this, I only listen to gospel, but I just want to support you, brother. So here,$10 and you know, give it away, whatever, whatever. But he always had this huge smile, and one day I asked him, I'm like, Oh, why are you smiling like that all the time? He's like, Man, I just have joy from the Lord. And I thought that, and I never forgot about that. I never forgot about his face, I never forgot about that smile, and that was years ago. And so when he said that to me, that's what stuck in my mind. I couldn't stop thinking about that joy because I was unhappy, you know, when you look at it, because man, I didn't have that joy. And when he said, Man, I can connect you to the Lord and you can have that joy, I didn't want anything else. I didn't want anything else, and that's why I like I put everything cold turkey, because like I said, if you can go hard for the devil, and I went hard for the devil, man. I ran with the devil, baby. I went hard for the devil, and I said, I'm gonna put the same energy into doing things for God, you know what I'm saying? That's dope. And man, I was man, I I I tried to start a Christian club, you know what I'm saying? And then even when I before that, I was like, I would still do shows, but I was like, hey, y'all niggas can't cuss no more. You know what I'm saying? But I was putting niggas on the radio though, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, yeah, I'll put you on the radio, you know, 93.3 or 92.7, whatever it was back then. Right. So it was like it made sense for y'all not to be able to cuss, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, yeah, y'all come do your radio versions, and I had to connect with Easy E. So I was like, yeah, y'all come through to the Pentagon, do your thing, and I'm gonna put you on the radio. So yeah, I'm still making moves for people. And then that was too much still, and I was just like, yo, let me try a Christian club, and yeah, that was not a thing. But shout out to Dollar Bill, who was a Christian DJ. You know what I'm saying? He was a strip club. Yeah, yeah. He's a legend, he's a legend too. You know what I'm saying? But he was my DJ because he joined the church. You know how you uh, you know how you go somewhere like when you go to jail and shit, and you be like, oh, Petey, what, oh, oh shit, what are you doing in here? You know what I'm saying? That's how it was when I was like That's how it was when I met uh Dollar Billy on the on the church side. I'm like, oh shit, nigga, what you doing up in here? Let's work. You love God, do that?

unknown 14:48

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_12 14:49

What's up, bud? Shit, we're gonna hold it down in the court, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 14:54

Snicking me. Straight up. Um, what do you hate about the music scene like right now in Jacksonville?

SPEAKER_12 15:02

The same thing I always hated is no support. Man, music in Jacksonville needs to be an investment. You know what I'm saying? And nobody wants to invest in it. And I'm talking about the artists themselves. Just like I'm a businessman, just like any business investment, you gotta I can't invest in anything you're doing if you haven't put no fucking money in it either. You know what I'm saying? So that's why most people when they invest in something, they say, even when you go on Shark Tank, they say, Well, what did you do? Let me see how much you how many units did you sell? Let me see what you got going on before I jump on it. And then if you ain't did shit with it, they're gonna say, Well, if you don't believe in your shit, how the fuck I'm supposed to put 50,000 or 100,000 behind the shit. I don't believe in you and you don't believe in your shit.

SPEAKER_13 15:46

You don't believe in that shit.

SPEAKER_12 15:47

And and that's what Jacksonville is. You got a lot of artists that want you to put a whole bunch of shit behind them, but them motherfuckers ain't putting shit behind the motherfucking selves. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 15:58

Form and come to the door asking for 10 people to get in free. Exactly. And they won't see food salads.

SPEAKER_11 16:07

I bet you it ain't just mayonnaise.

SPEAKER_12 16:15

They don't wanna they don't want to invest in themselves. So I mean, and that's what the biggest thing is, man. Until these artists realize, man, investing in yourself is more than just spending money on yourself. Yeah. It's investing in the scene that you want to be a part of. Because, man, the one thing that I had at the Pentagon, you know what I'm saying, is one thing I did notice about some people, like, yo, I own the only club that was only for local rappers in Jacksonville. No one has ever done that shit. I played 90% of only Jacksonville music. Shout out to the Firehouse DJs, Draza, Burn, Rest in Peace, you know what I'm saying, and Big Rob, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I told them, y'all wanna play all Jacksonville all fucking night, make it work, make it do what it do. You know what I'm saying? And that's what you heard when you came to the Pentagon. You heard 75 to 85% Jacksonville music mixed in with whatever the industry was playing, and nothing but artists from Jacksonville was on that motherfucking stage, you know what I'm saying? And guess what though? You would have niggas that would come perform here and then go run to a club that won't even play their fucking music. Won't even let them in for free, won't even put them on fucking stage. But you go there and want to buy bottles and spend all this fucking money and come to my shit, perform, leave with all your friends and don't even really spend no money with us. You know what I'm saying? But this is where you're performing at. How you invested into this scene that you want to come out of, you know what I'm saying? So that's still relevant to this day.

SPEAKER_11 18:03

So let me ask you, hold on, that was a two-party question. So you told me what you hate about the scene. What do you I mean, uh, what do you love about the scene right now?

SPEAKER_12 18:11

Uh what I love about the scene right now, uh, I mean, I think there's still space for people to uh do what they love. You know what I'm saying? Because that's why I started doing everything I'm doing, because man, music is love, man. Music is how you unite the people. Music is how, man, you get through some hard fucking times. Man, I put so many people on stage that, man, they're no longer here no more, but that's some of their best fucking moments. Some of us here have seen these people on stage, and that was the highlight of their life was performing at the Pentagon, performing at IndoXo, performing at the underground. You know what I'm saying? Some of my best memories of trife is at the fucking underground, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's that's real shit.

SPEAKER_10 19:02

You know what? Now you can see the energy, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 19:05

It's undeniable. Yeah. Yeah, Boochi. What you was what you were saying? Yeah, already answered. Okay, so um I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna come back to row.

SPEAKER_12 19:13

Man, so Boochie gonna copy my answers like he copied my picture.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I was gonna do this. When you walk in the door, I said twinning.

SPEAKER_13 19:30

I saw a haze tag, I saw a haze tag in the back of Boochie. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_08 19:39

So you wanna say the real Boocher? We're gonna talk about the later though.

SPEAKER_10 19:46

Let's say hike, hike.

SPEAKER_11 19:47

I'm gonna I'm gonna um I'm gonna come back to road in one second. Miss Juliette.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

No, I was just thinking about the fact that y'all got the same shoes on. I was just thinking about it.

SPEAKER_12 20:08

I'm gonna come up with my dog and I was like, what you wearing?

SPEAKER_08 20:16

Running off the mannequin.

SPEAKER_14 20:19

Running off the mannequin in the movie.

SPEAKER_12 20:23

Cause great mind thing, like, ain't that right?

SPEAKER_11 20:26

So, how did you start singing and what's one of your favorite songs to perform?

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Falling in love. And Ron wrote that, actually. That was the first song that I ever sung that somebody else wrote. And it made it big over there in Europe in Germany. So it was doing numbers over there in Germany. It did really good. Um got that romance.

unknown 20:55

I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

I'm a church girl, so.

SPEAKER_12 20:59

We'll be good enough. I'm gonna say uh we was like Argentina in our motherfucking studio.

unknown 21:06

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_14 21:07

Yeah, the four songs.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

You remember when you went off on me cuz I ain't really about to have gum in my mouth. I'm chewing gum and singing.

SPEAKER_14 21:21

With the white glove on, hold on. You trying to help over raw?

SPEAKER_11 21:27

How did you start singing?

SPEAKER_01 21:29

So I'm a church girl. I've been in church. Grandparents' pastors both sides. Oh, I've been singing my whole life, and everybody sang in my family.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

PK's PK's you may PK's the worst words. Preacher skid, preacher kid.

SPEAKER_09 21:47

The captain planted in his mouth. PK's you know, an abbreviation.

SPEAKER_13 21:54

I ain't no way to change Butchie or nobody.

SPEAKER_09 22:04

I see you. Y'all played the whole funeral.

SPEAKER_11 22:06

Boogie, what happened at the funeral, dog, when you saw this man, dog?

SPEAKER_14 22:09

JP left to go smoke a cigarette.

SPEAKER_11 22:13

Black and my dog. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

This is wild.

SPEAKER_11 22:18

Hey, listen. The place you don't want to be with them two dudes right there is at a funeral, boy. Them two right there, man. No. JB. Not me. Many, man. You gotta hold a straight face, man, because it's always something they see somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 22:37

JB want the man shaved.

SPEAKER_11 22:38

The man the man was in the casket. They're talking about robbing the man glasses. I mean they're giving the man props. No, but they acted like they wanted to take him out the man's face. Why he was in the box?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Well, you see them glasses? No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_14 22:56

No, but I was thinking about something that Ross said. And it kind of segues into the fact that you ever notice how people, if they on the side of the road and they sitting in their car and you see them broke down, you be like, hmm. And keep moving. But if they actually push in that damn car, you might pull over and you got a better chance of. People help people who help themselves. And that goes back to what you was talking about when you said that how do you want people to invest in you and you don't want to invest in yourself. And I think sometimes people just haven't been taught how to invest in it.

SPEAKER_11 23:30

Your example wasn't that good, but I I got you. But what example wasn't that good? I mean, uh, if you if you pay three, I ain't 300 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

I ain't having nobody skyline.

SPEAKER_11 23:40

But if you got a bill you're trying to pay, if you got a bill you're trying to pay, and then$400 and you got three, we can talk. Show me that you invested in yourself, but you'll I don't know, dog.

SPEAKER_05 23:54

I got hell.

SPEAKER_11 23:55

So you're saying I can get the$397 for you? No, no, no, no. It's a$400 bill. You got three already.$300.$3 walk off, though. I only got$3.50. I told him the other day, man, there was a dude. Uh I woke up past me, saying, sir, you got a dollar? I sure do. And kept moving. I mean, but they got told us. You're gonna leave my house without at least a dollar, sir. They keep moving.

SPEAKER_13 24:26

When they hit you with this here, you gotta ask the friend, man. You got a couple of dollars.

SPEAKER_11 24:31

I got you first. Hey, but they got uh they got Venmo, they got cash out, but they ain't gonna play with that. I should have told them they have square readers, they ain't got no cash on the room. Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot, buddy. The homeless dude told me you got cash out.

SPEAKER_10 24:48

You got a cash.

SPEAKER_11 24:48

Man told me he got cash in. At least a dollar. We're going around the table. So Pimp, you up? What out, man? What's up? How you got the name? Oh, I gave myself the name. Dang, just write it out. Just give me some history.

SPEAKER_10 25:02

I figured I would give myself a name that would stick. Okay, okay. So I figured, you know, J Pimp would stick. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 25:10

First nigga I seen with a Cadillac without the Cadillac words on the back, it said pimp on the back.

SPEAKER_07 25:18

First time I met him, I said, Who was this nigga mad at?

SPEAKER_10 25:21

I called Cadillac and I told him I was like, I need it with pimp on the bike. They was like, we don't do that, sir. I say, okay, well, I do it. Oh man.

SPEAKER_11 25:31

Huh? Come again and say what? What you say? Come again and say what? Come again and say what? Oh, all right.

SPEAKER_05 25:38

Nah, I know, I know a lot of family. I know a lot of family. Like, I know that nigga there.

SPEAKER_11 25:44

JB say y'all know each other from the game. No, what game, man? I never never. Oh, PlayStation? But I get off on that college game, no, man. Ain't no joke on college football, but I get off, but yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

All right. Well, um anybody else got any questions before I dive back in? Go ahead, bro.

SPEAKER_13 26:04

You know, you don't your your your journalism stuff. I like it, like it. No, no, no. I do have a question. Speaking of uh being touched, Kirk. Y'all see what they're talking about um with Boosie, man?

SPEAKER_14 26:14

I'm sorry, what happened?

SPEAKER_13 26:18

Hey dog, I'm getting sick of it. Yeah, look at that.

SPEAKER_11 26:19

I just don't understand the background. I don't know what she's doing. Yeah, I don't give a either.

SPEAKER_13 26:23

She's basically saying that Boosie molested her when she was five years old. Oh wow, I ain't never heard of that. Yeah, it's a video. This chick came out. They're talking about Kodak them paid them to do that. And Booser will wear it. And I'm not questioning it, I'm not going against no victims or anything, but she doesn't seem authentic. You know what I mean? But you say Booster, you say Booster was well?

SPEAKER_14 26:44

Booster was 12 at the time. Oh wow. I mean, it's still doable, nigga. Right, right, right. Okay, so here's the deal. And this current stage that we see, again, we're talking about narratives. When people try to control the narrative, I believe you gotta trust but verify. You know what I'm saying? You can trust people, but you gotta verify. Like, so I gotta take you out.

SPEAKER_13 27:04

If you make them verify? Yeah, if you verify, if you want to verify, they think you're a problem.

SPEAKER_14 27:08

I'll take you on the face of what you say, but there has to be verifiable proof.

SPEAKER_03 27:11

Nah, but being being, hell nah, that shit gotta be verified. Listen, dog.

SPEAKER_13 27:17

Y'all remember the lady with the brick? And that shit had to be verified. That had to be verified. When niggas was questioning it, they was talking about that. So in the time that we live in, in the time they put a label on you before. In the time that we live in right now, in jail.

SPEAKER_11 27:30

In the time that we live in right now, I I tried to explain to the young men that we get. Huh?

SPEAKER_08 27:38

I tried to explain to the young man that we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_13 27:40

Well, I ain't know what type of set y'all get. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_09 27:47

I don't know what you got going on in your life.

SPEAKER_11 27:49

On the first podcast, I don't be talking to you. Hit me out.

SPEAKER_12 27:54

Hit me out. Probably professionals, man.

SPEAKER_11 27:57

You ain't gonna have my voice changed when I start asking questions. I wouldn't yeah, niggas out of the channel. Yeah, he's the only professional. So in the beginning, but no, seriously, I try to um I try to let them know that you gotta think as men, if we get accused of something, we automatically guilty. That's done.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

So they don't have to prove you guilty.

SPEAKER_11 28:15

You have to prove you innocent. There you go. So in in today's time, I need proof, man. I need the proof before we go to looking at just because of how we get did already.

SPEAKER_14 28:26

So I need the proof at the gate, man. Having been in this situation, I'ma say this. It's not just having the proof that you didn't do it, but I need your act, I need your apology to be as big as your acting. It never will. It never will. It never will.

SPEAKER_10 28:41

And because we live in You know why you're not gonna get that? Because it's too much. That's that's called accountability. Accountability. So y'all chill for a minute.

SPEAKER_11 28:48

Y'all chill for a minute, but uh I know somebody who was accused of something in the in the high school. Yeah. And they put they put it all over the news, all over the paper. But when it came out that the man didn't do it, the write-up was this big in the paper. And that's the way it's gonna be. But you know what though? The crazy part is when that story came out, none of us thought he did it. We knew him. You know, it'd be like, come on, man, y'all tripping. But right now, a woman can say, He slapped me. If she got a scratch, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_14 29:16

Well, it depends on who the woman is, because it's gonna depend. No, it depends. Because we got 21 women saying that the president of the United States did something crazy to them. See that you can't say the word.

SPEAKER_11 29:25

No, it depends on who the man is. How about that one? That's called power. How about that one? It depends on power. That's called power, man. Hey, don't say that because he's gonna go down a whole nother uh direction. When you say power, he thinks he thinks about his cousin, Curtis. Curtis Curtis. Think about his cousin Curtis. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_14 29:43

All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm for I'm a vic I I advocate for no I advocate again. No, I just gotta be mindful of how I say this. You want to advocate for the victims at all times. Like I'm a for I'm a I'm a girl dad, so I got daughters. You know what I'm saying? So you always want to make sure that women's wives are intact. But we do have to verify. You can't just assume because this person, there are so many motives about people, you know, like I say, hurt people, hurt people. People have motives and they say things.

SPEAKER_10 30:15

So I tell my daughters the same way or flipping. When you meet a guy, it's gonna be nice. You're gonna get all the great qualities and traits. Don't believe that shit. It's like interference. Like interference. I can multiple early.

SPEAKER_11 30:33

Hey, my baby 19, I told her niggas right now looking for a place to stay, some money, or some sex. Homosexual. My baby 19, and I told her that's what a nigga looking for right now, man. That's straight up, man. You ain't got nobody that's that's her age that's serious right now that's talking about, hey man, let's let's court. Court, they don't even basketball? Tell them about that shit, man. They not trying to, man.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Um We gotta start acting like these girls don't be lying. And I'm a boy mom, and I have worked at a high school. Okay, and every time these girls, I tell my kids, stay away from these girls, man, until you know for show, show. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because what I see in the high school environment is when a girl gets caught doing something, she in the bathroom with the boy, you lying, talking about he done made you do something. He didn't make you do nothing. You just being fast. And once again, what happens?

SPEAKER_11 31:22

What happens right there? The boy gets he got the register as a sexual family.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

They try to charge the boy every time, especially if he's black. The white boys get away, by the way. But when he's black, no, they try to put something on you. Without the what? The proof.

SPEAKER_12 31:36

Without the proof. Well, I mean, you gotta understand now, coercion is recording. You know what I'm saying? And nigga, there ain't a boy out here that ain't trying to persuade some motherfuckers. But one boy out here.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Yeah, the girls be trying to persuade them. Well, they be ready. It be high and ready.

SPEAKER_13 31:52

But you have women that'll say if a dude ain't trying, they'll tell him no because they want him to try. Exactly. You be like, well, I wanted you to do more. No, you told me no. That was it. Conversation over. I ain't gonna try to rule you, ain't gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

That next day, that next morning. Oh shit, he a fuck nigga. I don't want to fuck with him no more now.

SPEAKER_11 32:09

And then they'll pass that around the school that that nigga there.

SPEAKER_13 32:12

I'm glad I got daughters instead of young men and I and I just three daughters because it's hard to navigate. I think the people that make up them lies, dog, they need to face the same charge.

SPEAKER_11 32:20

Not only just that, just lies, period. Like the ones that call the police and say, hey, a black man dead XYZ, and then the black man get dead and took through that by the police. I think they need to be prosecuted as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's just me, but I mean, hey.

SPEAKER_13 32:34

Um it's just unfortunate, though. You know what I'm saying? Because, like you say, we're already guilty, and then the parents, oh, my baby ain't do that. Tell him he took it. Ma, he ain't take it. She's been doing this behind the bleachers over here. I ain't the first one. Right.

SPEAKER_11 32:46

I ain't the first one. You call a Linda at home, they call her loose Linda at home. So watch this. So have y'all been keeping up with the Afro Man case?

SPEAKER_14 32:54

Nah, I meant to watch some of it today, but I just officer. Yeah, so the police officer kicking, let me give you some backstory and context. Police officers kicking his door on an illegal search and all of that, and he had his cameras up, so he turned it into some money. And he's advertising it, and their courts, the court is going on right now, and they acting like they the victims. Because he done made rap songs about as one of them. He wins for trying to rap. And he's winning. He wins. And it's like his property, his own. And so they're on there looking like victims because, you know, they basically assaulted this man and went on false allegations and raided the man house. And they wrong. And so he said, Well, I'm gonna turn it into some money since y'all ain't gonna pay for my door and you ain't gonna apologize. I'm gonna make some raps about it. And he did, and now it's a big narrative, and now it's supposed to everybody talking about. Because they're sitting on there crying, accountability. Yeah, accountability is the top set of the beast.

SPEAKER_11 33:50

I got a double, uh, a double party question that I want to ask. Um What's your favorite album that you recorded? Um I listened to This is Life I Know. I like we don't play that. And the reason I like it because it was gritty and it kind of seemed like it seemed like some run DMC type. It was just rock, but it was different. So that's that was my favorite. But what's your favorite album? And from that album, what's your favorite uh track?

SPEAKER_12 34:20

Um, I don't even know, man. I mean, I'm out of I'm gonna give you a two-part because, like I said, uh I think this Life I Know is my favorite album, only because I produced the whole thing myself. You know, I uh Oh, I forgot. I did the artwork myself, I did everything damn near myself. Shout out to DX, he recorded it for me. But yeah, it was one of those uh personal albums, you know what I'm saying? I thought about uh that was my first album that I made after No Love, and you know what I'm saying, and it was, man, Jacksonville was a hard fucking city to make music in, man. I rem and that was the reason why I was like, man, I I remember motherfucking producers trying to charge you$1,500 a beat. And I'm talking about this is like early 2000s and shit. Like, what nigga? That was in the drum machine, man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 35:10

Where did we get that from?

unknown 35:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_12 35:13

And I said, fuck that, nigga. I'll do that shit my motherfucking self, man. I went out, I ain't never played an instrument in my life, man. But now it got me a karma, a chord karma, man. I was in that bitch making, making elementary When you want something, you gonna make a way, you gonna find a way.

SPEAKER_10 35:31

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If you really want something, you're gonna find a way, man. You don't, you're gonna make an excuse.

SPEAKER_12 35:35

It was a personal, uh, it was a real personal album. So I mean, it was like uh, it's what started me, you know what I'm saying? That's that's the shit that started my grind as a solo artist, you know what I'm saying? And it was like uh it it really was, you know, it felt good to be able to say, yo, I made these beats myself, I produced this myself, and then see people fucking with it, especially when you know, nigga, I ain't no fucking MGZ, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So it and it was also a humbling album because man, I remember uh I would get my homeboy to come through and you know, I be in the, we be freestyling getting fucked up and shit, and we be in there and I'd be trying to make beats and shit that we can ride to. They're like, I can't get jiggy with this shit.

SPEAKER_09 36:19

What the fuck is this, nigga?

SPEAKER_12 36:21

Yeah, so I mean, it was it was a uh it was a great album just to put together. Um I think one of my favorite songs is you know, this life I know, because man, it was just about how I was living at that time, man. You know, it was it was hard, man. You know, I was like in between a rock and a hard place, man, in my life, and you know, that's why it's called This Life I Know, you know what I'm saying? I remember, man, you know, it's lines and that shit, you know. You know, like my classmates see me and they don't recognize me. Walk by me, high and by me, cause I'm living sly me. Way below my meat, wearing the same old jeans I was wearing in my teens. Now I'm in between robbery and a homicide, looking, looking for death, cause a long time ago, inside my heart I cried, I died. Look at me, I cried tears of joy when I had my baby boy, and now I cry because of the things I can't afford, avoid negativity. But that shit is in me. No way out. So what the fuck you talking about? You know what I'm saying? So that was like how I was literally fucking living, you know what I'm saying? Like that was my fucking reality, man. Living on uh my girlfriend's couch and shit, you know what I'm saying? And then having a child with her, and then the daddy looking at you like, what the fuck you doing, nigga? You know, you know, so yeah, there was just all that fucking struggle and strife, man, that that made me uh really feel that shit, you know what I'm saying? Cause man, you know, pushing for a dream in Jacksonville, man, I remember what you have to make your own dream. You have to do that. That's what you have to do.

SPEAKER_10 37:58

And I don't think it's just Jacksonville, I think it's in general, like across the board.

SPEAKER_12 38:03

Well, I think the opportunities are different. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 38:07

Opportunity, like you have to just I don't know, in my mind I feel like, and I always felt that you have to create your own opportunity. You have to be ready when they present themselves, but you have to be, you have to be like, if you want something, you gotta make that shit happen. If you want certain people to see you, you gotta make them see you. Like imagine all any piece of pussy of a dick you ever got, pause for the gym. You have to make them motherfuckers want you.

SPEAKER_11 38:42

Right, right. That's the truth.

SPEAKER_10 38:44

You had to put in the work. So it goes back to what you were saying, like you gotta put in the work, but I think like it's only gonna be as hard as you make it. And when you expect handouts, it's making it hard for you.

SPEAKER_12 39:02

For me personally, I seen so many people uh that have the talent but didn't have the opportunities, and they grinded, they worked, and and I think a lot of those opportunities was like closed because of the people who were gatekeeping in this moment. I a hundred percent agree with that. You know what I'm saying? We had a lot of gatekeepers here.

SPEAKER_10 39:20

And again, I say what I said because that's if that wasn't the case, then guess what? You wouldn't be here. So I wouldn't be here. So gatekeeping. We had to go through that shit of the gatekeeping of the damn these motherfuckers ain't really shit popping here. We gotta make it happen. We made it happen. You know what I'm saying? So I agree with you. But when I say that, it's to say that. Yeah, you need that part of the game in order to have those. Well, that's in every industry, though.

SPEAKER_11 39:48

Like I was about to say, gatekeeping is everywhere. Like Kurt was a gatekeeper for his industry, Chuck is the gatekeeper for for his industry, they ain't letting nobody through. Hold on. Huh?

unknown 39:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_13 40:00

The beer maker industry.

SPEAKER_11 40:01

Yeah, they ain't letting nobody through that's that's trying to get through. Now I'm bushing, but they are there in every, no matter where you work at, you got that one one motherfucker that you look at every day, you be like, this motherfucker, when you when you see him, because you already know that this person at they stepped aside, 20 more people could have walked through the door.

SPEAKER_12 40:21

Well, I mean, when I say gatekeeping, it's in a different sense only because you know, these are people that shouldn't have had access to the gates. In the first place. Yeah, I go for that. This is the same thing. I don't know. They got Godfathered in. No, no, no, no, no. It's different because when you have a place like New York, Atlanta, LA, and you have gatekeepers, man, a lot of those people are gatekeeping because, man, they know about what the fuck they're talking about and doing. It's a difference when you have gatekeepers here saying, Hey, I just want this spot. Right. Okay, because in Jacksonville, the gatekeepers were DJs, not rappers. They weren't labels, they weren't none of those. They were DJs that had, and and one of the biggest things that I noticed about Jacksonville, because I'm from Philly originally, one of the biggest things I know about Jacksonville is the fact that DJs ran the city, not rappers.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

That's wow.

SPEAKER_12 41:17

Rappers are supposed to run the fucking city, not fucking DJs. When you got to Jacksonville, DJs ran the fucking city. Okay? And to this day, DJs still pretty much run the fucking city. That's different than gatekeeping because you're not supposed to be in that spot. You know what I'm saying? So when I say it's a lot of missed opportunities, it's because the wrong people were in those spots because DJs then weren't supposed to be the celebrity. The rapper was supposed to be the celebrity. In those days, it was the rapper's name, and the DJ's name was small as fuck. Here, it was the DJ's name, big as fuck on the marquee, and the rapper might not even be on the motherfucking flop. You see what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 42:09

Like, we got London on the track.

SPEAKER_12 42:11

Yeah, so and this is before the DJ clues, the DJ Kallis, and all that shit. I got it. So before the DJ was a fucking thing, it was a thing here in Jacksonville. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 42:23

So now I understand what you're saying when they you say that they shouldn't have been there in the first place. Correct. That made total sense now.

SPEAKER_12 42:29

Now it would have been a record label or even a rapper that was here before. Right. That's like, yo, I got connections to Aristotle, da da da da da da, but y'all niggas ain't coming hard enough. But see, the difference was they were smart enough to know if rappers took our spot, we ain't making no fucking money.

SPEAKER_09 42:46

Right.

SPEAKER_12 42:46

So it was a strategic move for them to do the way they did.

SPEAKER_09 42:50

Right.

SPEAKER_12 42:50

And that's why a lot of artists in Jacksonville that had talent couldn't get the fuck out. Because, man, you had people saying, Oh, I'm only going, I'm not, I don't want to give up the spot.

SPEAKER_09 43:02

Right.

SPEAKER_12 43:02

I like the fucking limelight. Every DJ loved the fucking limelight, and they love having their name on the fucking marquee. They love having rappers begging at their feet to motherfucking get on stage and get in, get on the mixtape to get this to get that. Yeah, I never played that shit.

SPEAKER_11 43:20

So how did you go from from uh I like Air Bitter too? How do you go from um hustler to legit business man? And was the restaurant your first venture?

SPEAKER_12 43:32

Man, I had no that shit. I don't know if in life, man.

SPEAKER_10 43:41

Yeah, man. I started shit about women. And all kind of shit, man. Tactical, man.

SPEAKER_12 43:46

This is making shirts. Man, the hustling, man. We just out in front of that bitch selling trip, man. We ain't gonna. I had purses. I had some. That's why I say that. Sell persons out the motherfucking trunk, out the motherfucking studio. Oh man. Man, I sold every man. If I can make a motherfucking profit, I'm selling that shit. I didn't give a fuck what it was, man.

SPEAKER_10 44:10

Finding a way.

SPEAKER_12 44:11

I'm telling you, I'm always gonna get money by any means necessary, man. That was never a problem for me. My problem was, man, trying to get other people on board. You know what I'm saying? Because man, you can lead a motherfucking horse to water, but you can't make these niggas do a motherfucking thing out here, nigga. A motherfucking thing. These niggas like being broke, nigga.

SPEAKER_09 44:33

I ain't never met people that like being fucking broke.

SPEAKER_12 44:36

These niggas love broke, nigga. There's no hustling these motherfuckers out there.

SPEAKER_11 44:42

At one point, the females in Jacksonville love broke niggas. Are we a woman out of it? Are we gonna do it?

SPEAKER_14 45:00

I'll tell you to say something. Niggas ain't have no motivation. You said they need your testimony. They ain't got no money.

SPEAKER_11 45:08

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_14 45:10

I've noticed that since I've been here. I've seen respectable nine to five dudes that got earning power and careers.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

Move out the way, let me get that bum ass nigga over there. Story of my life, though. Wow. Move out the way, let me get that bum nigga right there.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

Niggas live at Davy.

SPEAKER_12 45:34

Because a lot of them niggas with money soft as fuck. At the end of the day, a lot of them niggas with money is some motherfucking Johns, nigga. That's what the fuck they is.

SPEAKER_11 45:45

Them some motherfucking Johns. I think Gilly said it one day that uh money don't replace greenness, man. Oh no, you can have all the money in the world and if they're late, you green. No, man, I'm gonna tell you. These niggas drink ain't solid to you? Who?

unknown 46:00

Drake.

SPEAKER_11 46:00

Hey, hold on. Hey, go ahead on roll. What are we talking about, man?

SPEAKER_12 46:08

I'm glad we got J Pep on here, man. I'ma tell you right there.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

What? Okay, no money. We gotta get a man with some money that used to be broke. If a man never had no struggle, man, he he real soft.

SPEAKER_11 46:28

Now she's speaking some shit. My declaration every day is I ain't never going back. I don't give a damn what I gotta do. To the trap? Oh man, I don't give a damn what kind of job I can do. He might have to pull that off. He used to say. Whoa. Trap was on butt wheel rap. Oh boy, you working too. But listen, man, that's that that's a real statement though, man. Um I've I I I understood what you said, man, because shit, boy, I done not know where my next meal was coming from. I done shit talking. Hey. It was coming from Copels, nigga.

SPEAKER_08 47:07

It might come from Copeland's nine, boy. It might come from Copels. But boy, no, we're gonna get the book. Insurance was on the 21st. And guess what? We're gonna keep the snap.

SPEAKER_14 47:26

It was hard times, boy. We talked about the narrative, right? Yeah. He a long way from that day.

SPEAKER_09 47:32

You're right.

SPEAKER_14 47:34

Many, many movies.

SPEAKER_08 47:34

And what I said, the declaration is going back. We ain't missing no meals now. I've learned a valuable lesson. Not to go that way.

SPEAKER_11 47:43

So what she said was correct. A man that's been there ain't going back. Cares a lot more, and and he probably will take care of her better because he ain't gonna put her in that situation either. That's just me. I ain't say either, neither. I said either.

SPEAKER_14 47:56

Is that on your Tinder profile?

SPEAKER_13 48:03

My dog on plenty of fish, not take. Christy Mingle, though.

SPEAKER_08 48:08

Christy Mingle.com. No more mingle. Come get some Christian Bingo. Whoa, that's on the Christian Mingle? What?

SPEAKER_11 48:17

Hold on, pause though. Here we go, boy. Hey, but my dog says something. Nah, I ain't gonna take his money, though. That's his third one, though. No, give it to him. Pause. Okay, you're right. Madow said something the other day, and I bet you you I yeah, you nigga. Oh repeat, if you can repeat it uh about the vision, I can't, I don't, I don't have it directly, but if you can repeat that, man, that's the same thing it correlated with what Pimp said about, you know, going and having the vision of going to get it, man, and just being like having that ethic. And I can see it. Like when I said, is this your was this your only venture? He was like, so I see the hustle, you know. I was um, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something. I was working in the community center on Justina, right next to the school when you first opened. So we used to come, we used to c walk down there and and check you out. And in the beginning, we was like, I don't know what this is, but it's named after dope stuff, so I know I'm from the sound familiar. I'm I'm from a place where I'm like, oh, why you get you a dime? You get you a name. So I mean, and and we respected that just because of what it was, man. And it it made so much sense.

SPEAKER_13 49:38

28 grams of seasoning?

SPEAKER_11 49:39

That boy's stupid, bro. But it's he told me the other day, he called me and hung up the phone after he said it. Think it and believe it, visualize it and you'll see it. And you make it your destination and you'll reach it. Um when he said it, I was like, say it again. He said it again, and I was like, damn, ha ha ha, that made so much sense. And uh, like I said, with your hustle and the way I saw it, um, and just to see like you got a whole nother location, and you you you you went from that one to round the corner by a Taco Bell, and then you did your thing with your trailer, and I just see the vision, and now you're here with a whole different location. And um, man, we gotta do it. We on cloud. We told me. We're gonna club cloud.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

That's the second time we're on cloud. And he gave us some balls, hey. But check this out. After I posted the last podcast, somebody inboxed me. Well, they see a chicken. I'm like, oh man. Like you know, this man posted a whole video and see me with a wing.

SPEAKER_13 50:38

She didn't hear me back. I was like, stop thinking playing. Oh yeah. And I posted somebody asked her, they got weed in the wings?

SPEAKER_12 50:44

Oh, fuck. They asked that everything.

SPEAKER_09 50:48

Oh, fucking bad. What are you gonna say? Oh, infusing the wings. Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_14 50:54

I would make a bet in five years he will have weed-infused wings, I guarantee you. I can promise you.

SPEAKER_12 51:00

I'm gonna tell you like they're gonna make me some money on the right. Be working on it now. Right. How can they get these cannabis crowds? What made you even go to the restaurant? What made me go to the restaurant? Oh, because alright, so to continue my motherfucking journey. Right. Alright, so I got saved, quit everything, and you know, man, I ain't never been so broke in my life. You say no money, and then it's it ain't no money in Christianity. You gotta preach the wrong way. You gotta preach.

SPEAKER_14 51:37

You didn't go to the crib flu knowledge.

SPEAKER_09 51:39

You ain't been paying that yet, though. You ain't went to the cripple preach.

SPEAKER_12 51:44

I mean, but that's that was one of the main things that uh I went at it with the uh pastor about because man, like I said, man, y'all gotta understand when I went to church, man, I had I had some I was the first member of this church now, okay?

SPEAKER_02 51:59

Oh, the one next door, I didn't know. He started next door.

SPEAKER_12 52:06

I was the first member of this church, okay? Now the screw up for the microphone. I'm gonna tell you, man. First member of this church, and I remember my homeboy. It was a you know, like when I said I got saved, man, I think people thought it was Armageddon because they were getting saved too. They were like, what? Raw saved? Let me start praying. Let me change.

SPEAKER_09 52:29

Shit is real crazy.

SPEAKER_12 52:32

Shout out to Frostwitting got saved, man. Oh, you think I'm playing? I'm telling the truth. Frostwitting got saved, man. And my homeboy Dave. This nigga was, man, my homeboy Dave, man. Dave was from the east side, man. He used to rap and shit too. And he was like, raw. Man, I don't know what happened, dawg, but I'm feeling you, dawg. Now see, I'm from the streets. And if I'm from the streets, this nigga's from the gutters, nigga. Like, he was like, man, he was he was like a reincarnation of Boosie. You might as well just say that shit. And so we would be at church, man, at random times, and you know, he'd be like, he was like the second or third member, because he was like, raw, I see what you're doing. I'm coming too, dawg. Fuck this shit. You know what I'm saying? Man, and and mind you, I'm telling you, we're in the storefront church is my family, his family, and maybe one other family.

SPEAKER_14 53:27

So you the deacon, the usher, and the homer bear.

SPEAKER_12 53:29

Yes, man. And the homebear and homer bear. And we would be in church and Dave just couldn't turn the streets off. And Dave would be like, so what the fuck you saying is Jesus?

SPEAKER_14 53:47

He like the dude in the uh that said he's gonna fight the devil for the Lord. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 53:53

Yeah, he was like that, man. I remember one time he was like, man, uh, Rob, come to the side, dog.

SPEAKER_09 53:59

I'm like, yo, what's up? You know?

SPEAKER_12 54:02

He like, man, I need you to pray for me, dog. I'm like, what's up? He's like, man, this nigga tried me at the party and I shot this nigga, and I don't know if he's alive or dead. I was like, pray for you.

SPEAKER_09 54:16

I need to lawyer. Hey, yeah. I'm like, nigga, why are you at church?

SPEAKER_14 54:20

Well, we need to be. Prayer is for the accomplishment. You need to be hiding, nigga. You done wait for prayer to accomplish, right? After the fact.

SPEAKER_12 54:28

Yeah, but I mean, yeah, that's how it was, though, you know what I'm saying? But the problem was, it would be just us three families or four in there, and the pastor would be like taking up like four offerings. I'm like, you know we all broke. Nigga, you personally know my situation because I told you, you know, like, hey, the club ain't making no money.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

You know what I'm saying? Still ain't getting my screwdriver. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 54:52

This 6750 ain't gonna do it.

SPEAKER_14 54:56

He ain't collect your taxes, uh, he ain't get your tax records like the one preacher did.

SPEAKER_12 55:02

Me and Dave didn't have no motherfucking jobs. Okay. It wasn't no taxes. Okay, there wasn't no taxes. We was, you know, like I said, so that was one of my issues. And he, you know, he straightened that shit out, you know what I'm saying? Because I talked to him about it a few times.

SPEAKER_10 55:14

Pull a pistol and told him I asked you for nothing. Listen here, mama. Well, we wasn't like that. I know God ain't tell you to ask me this.

SPEAKER_12 55:22

It was like that because, man, after that church shooting, he was like, hey, you can keep that pistol. Bring it with you. You got it. You got it on you, right? You got it on you. I'm telling the truth, man. I'm telling the truth, you know what I'm saying? I got it. But uh, so after I uh left that situation, because like I said, man, they did me so dirty, you know what I'm saying, in the end and shit like that. That's how I lost my club, fucking with the church, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's that's actually what happened, man. Like, they uh the church and the landlord conspired on me because it was a new landlord, because me and the old landlord had us uh a deal, you know what I'm saying? Because I put AC in that bitch, you know, central heat in the air, all that shit, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, yo, because I own half the strip, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, yo, man. Uh and he Yeah, and he was like, man, and I told him, like, yo. He lowered my rent to like down there next to nothing. He was like, yeah, and I told him, like, yo, when I'm out, you can add it. You know what I'm saying? So he was like, yeah. So I'm there for a few years, you know what I'm saying? And we didn't even have a lease. We was just on some handshake shit, cool shit, you know what I'm saying? And then the son took over the same situation, you know what I'm saying? Then he died, the uh dad died. And you know, the son was like, yo, you know, the family getting together, we're gonna have to sell the property, but we're gonna give you like a four-year lease, you know, with your price locked in, type shit, so you don't have no problems, you know what I'm saying? And that was all love, you know what I'm saying? So uh when that went down, the new landlord, he came through, he was like, Man, you got like half the motherfucking strip mall, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, you know, you would just like sell me half of your building back, man, I can make a lot more money. Because my shit was like four suites all into one. You know what I'm saying? He was like, you know, I can give you a you know a deal if you can give me those two other suites back, because I could be charging regular rent on those and you know, make the whole shit more profitable for me. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm good, you know what I'm saying? And so after uh me and the Patrick kept going head to head about shit, you know what I'm saying, as far as like, you know, because he wanted to be a Kreflow dollar, you know what I'm saying? And that's not why I was there for. You know what I'm saying? I was there because like I said, I was uh, you know, I'm all in, nigga. I done gave up, nigga. I called every hoe I knew from fucking New York to Miami, nigga. And I'm like, hey, I ain't fucking around no more, nigga. Yeah. I was faithful for the first time in my life, nigga. Okay.

SPEAKER_14 57:56

That preacher would have had to get a fade.

SPEAKER_12 57:58

I'm telling you, I was nigga, I was all the fuck, man. I had bitches crying. I had bitches crying from New York to fucking Philly, nigga, everywhere, man. They was crying. Because man, I used to be every fucking wear, nigga. They was crying when I said, yeah, I'm out. You know what I'm saying? Because I had like, you know, real relationships that built over years because, man, I used to be every fucking wear, you know what I'm saying? And so, yeah, I would gave everything the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? My wife was happy as fuck, man. She was happy as fuck, man.

SPEAKER_08 58:34

He lived in the door like she was coming. It's crazy because the door opened right here.

SPEAKER_12 58:43

Oh, she knows. That's who you are. Oh, she knows, because I confessed to her. I told her everything. Oh, I told her everything, and some of them bitches, she was like, ah, that's fucking knew it.

SPEAKER_09 58:55

That's part of it.

SPEAKER_12 58:56

She was ready to kill him. That's part of the thing. But yeah, I did uh, yeah, like I said, I was I was all in. Like I said, when I do anything, I go all the way the fuck in. I don't I don't bullshit about anything.

SPEAKER_11 59:07

So yeah, when I uh The church you helped start in the taking the damn bill.

SPEAKER_12 59:13

So uh no, they moved over somewhere. I really don't know. Boogie might have accidentally set it on fire. Go get them tithes and offering back. Boogie.

SPEAKER_14 59:31

Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 59:32

Yeah, because that's the code, man. I mean, if you're a real and if you a real nigga that's really real, and and see that was one of the things about, you know, being in like gang life and shit like that that I didn't like was the fact that nigga, if you really fucking real, you know what you dragging your people into. You know what I'm saying? If you really fucking real, you know what you dragging your people into, and you know what you going to motherfucking take them to. So, and that's what I didn't like because man, there's people that'll be like, yo, these niggas try me. You can't come get people like me because it ain't gonna be no conversations. You know what I'm saying? It's not gonna be a whole bunch of talking. It's it's on. You know what I'm saying? And people don't respect that shit because they'll come get you for some baby ass shit, knowing what type of time you own. Yeah, and then that drags your whole fucking mob down. Yeah, that drags your whole fucking mob down. So, and people don't have that type of respect to say, man, my little petty ass shit is gonna take this nigga away from his family, his mom, his kids, his cousins, his nieces. They don't have that type of respect for you and your life because they know, hey, this ain't really a life and death situation. This nigga tried me over his hoe and punched me in my face, and now I want some get back, and I'm gonna go call my niggas, and them niggas are gonna die for you, dog. They don't die for somebody.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:03

So listen, I had somebody, I I got somebody in my family like shut up. I got somebody in my family like that, man, and I used to talk to him and ask him, hey man, do you ever think about how what you do is gonna affect everybody around you? Nigga do shit in the neighborhood, and our entire family. Our entire family's the idea. His mama, my mama, my grandma, my aunties, they look just alike. Nah, nigga, they don't look like where he at now. Huh? Where yeah now.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:30

Shit, someone with all red on. Boy, we ain't gonna do that right now with a red nigga outfit.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:37

No, when y'all do this, I have to explain every week what's going on. Let me ask a question.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

Low top chunks, they lean a little bit.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:46

So too, you're gonna be safe, but Ron be in trouble.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

Listen, so I'm good. Hold on, let me finish.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:52

So let me finish. Two two to blue jeans. Two don't like blue jeans. Summarize this whole conversation. What? What? To summarize this whole conversation. Blue, you'll be in trouble too.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:10

You gotta change the name. You gotta change the name.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:13

Hit me out. Hit me out. I got a cousin, he went to prison. Everybody know the story. Uh, and he became a blood at over 40 years old when he went to prison. I'm not doing this. Uh he hit me up, he hit me up on a little tablet and sent me an email or whatever. What's up? JP? Yeah, they got tablets, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

JP's up, big buzz.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:36

What's up, Buzz? I'm just booling.

unknown 1:02:39

He didn't say Buzz.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:41

I say, hey man, I don't understand none of this. When you get all that stuff straight, though, hit me bike, because I don't even know what you're talking about right now, man. I know it. Bike. Bike. I know these people reading this stuff, man. I don't understand that, man. Don't do that, man. You 43 years old, man, and I I don't I don't get it. I mean, if you've lived the life. If you live the life your entire life, and this is what you've been doing, you're putting in the work and you're doing that, that's that's you. Right, right, right. Yeah, but he waited in 43. That's a whole different world. Man, no, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. We ain't gonna blame that on prison because I know a lot of people that that went to prison that ain't have to claim nothing, they have to check in. They did they time and they came out of the choice.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:32

I'm just saying, it's different.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:38

You gotta respect the presence, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:41

Nah, he didn't have to allow it. Yeah, he had to get that. He ain't gonna have to come to you that way. Yeah. He could have told you.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

No, no, look alike, no. He was setting you up.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

That man can find Jesus. That's why he can't find the. I need to see it right. Look alike.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

Man, I hate y'all. That man, that man was recruiting nigga unfriendly. That man was recruiting.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:59

He ain't not friendly me yet, but uh. That means our family. Go to Facebook. You would have been got four pages.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:05

Our family, buzz. No.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:07

I will. That is crazy. That sucks. That is that wild. I mean, when I know you, dog, it's different. Like, we look at a lot of these people that live in the face uh Facebook fantasy world. You know y'all. And we be like, dog, we know you for real, dog.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:21

Stop this, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:22

I'm talking about, boy, people go out to be millionaires on Facebook. They kill us. They sell all the donors. They got all things.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:29

Hey, hey, hey, but we know people for real. That's what I be like. We know you for real, bro. What is it? No, I'm talking about we know killers cannot.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

Yeah, but they ain't on Facebook and Instagram.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:40

Hell no. No, we do.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

Hey dog, we do got a homeboy called me from prison. What? What a joke. Hey, no, I was hey Booch, I was sitting on the sun bump, man. This nigga sitting on the bump bed. In prison. That nigga stupid. What you doing?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:52

Shilling, what you doing? For real. I feel the rest of this story. This man went in in what in the 90s? Yes. And this man don't get out till like 2030s.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:02

It's called the Buck Rogers Date.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:04

Listen, dog, I ain't talking about you, bro. Cause you had a wild game when we was in high school. You beat two grown niggas. You can beat two grown niggas in cartoon grade. Straight up. What up, what's stupid, man? Who that?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:16

Boy, you gonna say the man's name? I'm trying to say Jeffy up.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:19

So what the man get out.

unknown 1:05:20

That one nigga.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:22

That one nigga I'm scared of.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

Dirty game.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:24

Yeah. Yeah, never mind. Let's move on to the subject, though. I told you, I'm a civilian, though. I ain't got I don't know nothing about none of that, man. What else you got coming up? You gotta stop disrespectful. I'm just gonna ask you something else. Go ahead. You go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Top five clicks in that that's been around Jacksonville. Top five clicks. 21st? No.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:42

What are you talking about? For what? Rap or some shit?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't we ain't I don't know what this man is talking about. You gotta clarify that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:50

No motherfucker, nigga. I have no clue because, man, like I said, what I've been doing, I've been doing the band for the last 10 years, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:58

So you've done seen a lot of groups come through.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:00

Yeah, I've been doing the band thing for the last 10 years. So I just started uh doing shows over here again at Trap House Chicken, 5516 Normandy Boulevard.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:10

Do your shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:14

Home of the kilo sauce.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:15

Yeah. So basically, yeah, we've been doing shows here. Um what I'm doing now is um I'm providing uh an outlet for uh everybody to come together. You know what I'm saying? Because again, it's an investment thing, because uh what I realize is a lot of people don't realize is and when you're trying to make music, man, uh it's about addition, not subtraction. You know what I'm saying? And so we live in a culture where, man, one thing I do like about the society we're in now, people are open to shit. You know what I'm saying? It's no longer a a division like when we were younger, where they done typecasts. Yeah, you know, they done put in everything into a category because I mean everybody everybody here had to secretly like rock songs and shit, you know what I'm saying, and pop songs. On my playlist now.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:08

Everybody, no, everybody ain't secretly like it. We got one person at the table. He was he really liked that man. It was you, me too. I didn't know that was you though.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:20

But uh be older than all those two. Yeah, but that that wasn't really uh uh a reality, because nigga, you ain't coming out of the club bumping no fucking uh Lincoln Park, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Cause nigga, you ain't, you know what I'm saying? You bumper linking not. You bumper linking park?

unknown 1:07:35

No.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:36

No, no, nigga not.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:41

I was gonna put it down, I'm jumping. I'm dying three doors down.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:48

Like, you know, you ain't coming up to play in that.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:53

You're the first person in the neighborhood with that merchant to bath this LP though.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:58

You wouldn't get in the hole with that one, mother. Walking right by that nigga car, nigga. He cruising up trying to holler, like, yeah, okay. We're gonna keep on stepping, nigga.

SPEAKER_14 1:08:18

I leave the games here for a nice little minute, and let's just say the music is eclectic there. Ecco.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:23

I should have worked in Gainesville, nigga, all day.

SPEAKER_14 1:08:29

I stayed away from him. I don't do them.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:31

Hey, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:32

So Mary Record. Well, like a next my next question is what it is. My next question is for Blue. What you got? What you got? Clue.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:41

A lot of work, but what's the one?

SPEAKER_11 1:08:42

I hear about uh movies. Oh, yeah. You get started with movies and uh how many movies have you been there? Oh shit, how many movies have been there? I like to ask questions where people have to say shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:55

I asked them one, I asked you one. I'd have been you said it twice. I know. I'm trying to think because I done forgot some shit.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:04

I nigga been in a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

You're gonna forget them. That's part of it. Um at least I wanna say at least, I'll just say at least 12, but it's more than that. I'm gonna say at least I'm gonna just I'm gonna just stick to 12.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:16

Good round number of 12.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

And how I got into it? Shit, really music video. You know what I'm saying? Somebody do a music video and then the person wanted to do a movie. That you know what I'm saying, it just went from there and everybody, um, that because the movie scene here in Jacksville is growing. You know what I'm saying? Growing, growing, growing. Um, I got my my bitches and complains about the music uh the shit here. That's the same thing. I got my bitches.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:42

I got my bitches.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

Let me say this, let me say this.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:04

Let me say this. Yes, man, me and Pimp go so far the fuck back, right? Right. But I seen Pimp before I met Pimp because I went to an independent film at the airport. They were showing it in the lobby of the airport. It was a movie called Love Trap. I remember that. Yeah. And that's where I seen J. Pimp for the first fucking time. And then years later, I don't know, maybe a year or two. That's when we uh was doing the grind and shine shit, and we wound up going into the uh into the studio and having a building together. So yeah, I seen this nigga like he was a superstar before he I even. Hey, man, I know you nigga.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:50

It's crazy because I met him through one of his cousins and then fucked around and he was at another cousin's house and I was over there. I was like, damn, that's your cousin too. All these niggas got cousins everywhere. But he was family, man.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:04

I'll introduce me to Pimp.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:09

Because if you're cousins, nigga got fronts, but if we don't know if you got front money. No, no packages, man. You know, you're not just cousins, that's my blue cousin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:18

So he's gonna trust you to bring it back.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:20

But yeah, I want to say this though. I want to say, um, like we're talking about investments, and I was uh talking earlier about it, but I think, you know, since we're on a uh a platform, I want to say that we're in a in a space where music is identifiable by everybody now. You can do whatever you want to do and be wherever you want to be. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's important, especially in a culture like Jacksonville, that we gotta get rid of these genres and and knock down these walls because that's where the money's at. Okay, like I was saying before, the game is about addiction, not subtraction. When you only cater to one audience, you're fucking your money up. You know what I'm saying? So what I'm doing now is, you know, we're doing genreless shows where, man, like every Saturday night we got bands, we got rock, we got rap, we got RB, we got all that here. But what we're doing is we're exposing people to different audiences. You know what I'm saying? Because those audiences are how you make money, how you get more fans, how you get people to support you. Because man, what we're doing right now is we're taking music that is fucking the biggest music in the fucking world. Okay. And just to talk about that for a second, there is, and we're talking about black ghetto hood fucking music that started in the ghettos, started in the hoods of America, that is fucking around the entire globe. You can go to fucking the UK, you can go to Sweden, you can go to Ireland. Man, them motherfuckers, even in Russia, they're fucking rapping, they're using our our our sounds, they're using our beats. So we gotta get out of this box of where we think the music is only going to black people, and that's in Jacksonville. We think the music is, man, why are you performing in all black venues? Right. Why are you performing to only black? Man, you're cutting yourself out of so much pie. I used to say when ridiculous.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:31

When I saw Wayne uh crossover, I call that crossover money. When I saw Wayne get that different kind of money because he came out of just, like you said, us, and he started he started venturing into this other side. And wait, if you can have the other people singing your music, you you you crossed over. That's what I say.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:49

I don't even think it's a crossover because this is a this is an original thing. Because man, when I was younger, man, Madonna was on the same radio as Michael Jackson. Yeah. Stevie Wonder was on the same radio as Aerol Smith. Rundy M. C. was on the same channel.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:05

So let me ask you this question. If I'm a young artist in in Jacksonville and I wanted to come perform, he's saying we don't deal in hypotheticals. It's if. Because you're saying all your hair off your face. Go ahead. Hey, the man just told you it's okay to come out club.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:20

You know a face is. It's okay to come out club. Don't worry about it. Because it's going with missile alcohol.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:26

So if if I'm a young artist, how do if they're listening to this platform, how do they contact you to come perform on a Saturday night? Come buy some chicken. Is it?

SPEAKER_12 1:14:34

Right. That's the best way, man. Start the conversation over a TNP good shell. TNP trap, man. Y'all say the motherfucking trap.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:45

That's why I'm over here yawning.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:46

Yeah, but I mean, but on some real shit, that's that's that's part of what I'm I mean. Us as black people don't invest in anything. You know what I'm saying? Because, man, that is part of it. Man, you should want to come to meet me and say, yo, let me buy some wings and have a conversation with you, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Because that's how business works. Man, these people aren't buying these million-dollar golf club motherfucking memberships just to play fucking golf. It's because we're in the same room and we're networking together and we can make some fucking money together, we can make some moves together. So they don't mind spending a million dollars and they probably suck at golf, but this is the only way I'm going to get in the room with this other person. You gotta find yourself a way in. And like I said, a lot of people and even, you know, just period, they just feel entitled to, oh, I rap, I'm good, do shit for me. Nigga, you ain't sorge, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You ain't gonna get that type of treatment, you know? So if you ain't got that kind of pool, then yeah, you gotta motherfucking stratize and make a way for yourself to be successful. And that's why I say what I'm doing is creating a different avenue because, man, like I said, you're shortchanging yourself when you say, oh, I only want to perform for one crowd. Same thing with uh the bands. If you're only performing for uh other white kids, man, how far do you think that's really gonna go? You know what I'm saying? Because, man, you got to have some of this influence. The biggest bands in the fucking world, from Rolling Stones to Aerosmith to the fucking Beatles, they were fucking influenced by people like Muddy Waters and Harry, yeah, and and Chuck and Chuck Barry and and and Little Richard. Those were their fucking idols. Okay, he made it.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:42

It wasn't other than architect.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:46

It wasn't other bands that they they cop. No, it was ghetto black artists that they were emulating and being around and trying to make music like, which created this form of rock and roll and everything else that was out here. The name rock and roll is a black name because that's what they used to call black music because they wouldn't play it on the radio. You know what I'm saying? So for us to be so mentally constrained and putting ourselves in the chambers and chapters and sections, we have to be open, and that's the way you're going to win in Jacksonville. Because if you go anywhere else, that's how they're winning. Because man, if you think about any iconic place that that brought a lot of people up, man, they hang with all kinds of people. They make music with all kinds of people. And if you've ever been really been around big time artists, man, think about it. Country singers to every man, they fuck with each other. Yeah. They really fuck with each other.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:53

It's all networking.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:55

They really fuck with each other. You be thinking these Luke Bryans and people like that don't fuck with rappers because they got a whole image. Man, they fuck with them absolutely.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:07

You see? So let me ask you a question. Um, I heard you earlier mention a name that's kind of familiar to us because I heard you talk about all the number of people that you you know put on stages and they they they they they rock. But you said a name that's familiar to a lot of people here. And um, I just wanted to ask you, uh, because at some point you had to be some sort of inspiration or some something to him because you said when you got saved, he got saved. So I uh I'm talking about Frost just to kind of I guess my question is how did Frost move from I guess your camp to like over the Bucci's with everything with But he got saved in the people in good hands.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:53

That's exactly I called Bucci's being heard too. Yeah, I called Bucci and I said, man, because like I said, I called Bucci and uh I was like, yo, I'm I'm giving everything up, you know what I'm saying? And I had you know MMG and shit like that, and I'm like, yo, you know, these are my and I these are my people. You was the good hands?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:11

Yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna rock. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you that when you set shit down, boy, we was mad. We was mad, dog. It's like closing the clubhouse.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:21

Man, we didn't do the Diddy closing. But you got but you understand it though. You know what I'm saying? At that time, no. At that time, nah. Cousin is assuming. He said we were hurt. I didn't think bruns with the crazy. With the dairy outlet.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:40

I'm gonna tell you the real thing, man. The realest thing I ever seen, man, uh was when uh I did get saved, and uh I had this show that night, you know what I'm saying? It was like my last show, and it was actually when I'm telling everybody that this is the I'm getting saved and I'm moving on. Right. You know what I'm saying? Uh and it it stands out in me because that was really the night I knew that demons were real. Because I stood on that stage with all these people that loved me and always had love for me and everything in the world. And that night, you know what I'm saying? I got on stage, I mean we were packed that night. I got on stage and I said, this is my last night of doing this, and I'm getting saved, and this just ain't for me no more. You know, you would think it would be like love and you know, understanding. I've never seen more people mad in my life. And man, it was just like they were looking at me, and I could just see demons in everybody's eyes that I was looking at because man, you gotta understand, uh it's like, man, you're at the end of the day, clubs and all that stuff, you know, it's a it's it's a place that breeds negativity. The music we're listening to, the spirits we're drinking, it breeds negativity. You know what I'm saying? So I'm looking around the room, and instead of people like, man, I'm proud of you, or do what you gotta do for you, you know what I'm saying? It was like, what the fuck? Why would you be doing this? Now what the fuck are we supposed to do? You know what I'm saying? It was that type of shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:25

Hey, I mean, it wasn't no hate there, it just was like it's sometimes you gotta look at it. It was abrupt. It was abrupt.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:30

Yeah, this is where we was coming, you know what I'm saying, to to get our shit off and that escape might have been more to like like he's looking at it, and right your vision is perfect for what you saw because that's what you were supposed to do at the time. Man, them looking up at you, some were love, some were some were demonic, some were angry, but that place was an escape for them out of the reality of some other shit they need.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:00

Right. It wasn't no love law. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 1:22:02

So it wasn't never no hate.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:04

Well, I'm not talking about y'all. I mean, I'm talking about the people that was there.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:08

You weren't able to tell. You were just able to tell. Yeah, we ain't talking about you.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:13

I mean, I didn't well, I mean, blue wasn't even there that night, so I know it was.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:18

I understood, I understood what you were saying, but I can also see how people reason that could have been an escape from that Instagram from all the shit that they were going through in life. Because music has always been an escape. Like, I I've never been an artist. Like, I'm an artist, but I've never been an artist. I started out doing movies and fucking off. Like, I just I got to a point in my life to where I just felt stagnant. I was like, eh. Going to work? Alright, what I'm gonna do. Got two kids. Nah, this ain't it. I need to figure something out. I'm already a joker, so let me try to get into some movies. TV. How you do that? I know, right? Talk about the music scene. Right. Let me tell you something. You find your white guy that's filming. Cause it wasn't nobody else filming.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:08

Nope. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:08

Well, hell, that's how the show started. I found a white guy that had a club.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:13

I did all the right shit. I went to modeling school, acting school, sent out your headshots, get a fake manager, they fucked you over. They charge you for this, charge you for that. So like at some point, and that's why I have this mentality of you figure it out.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:29

Because you gotta go through it in order to learn it. Period.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:32

Yeah, I mean. So that's a good thing to hear.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:34

I just was like, yo, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:36

I'm gonna I'm gonna make this way, this way, I'm gonna make my own lane. But that was the good thing that came from him setting everything down. We had to go and figure shit out. And we did. You know what I'm saying? So that was the good shit that came from it, whether it was continuing doing music, you know what I'm saying? We formed up our own shit, uh put shit out. I wanna start doing movies, you know what I'm saying? Um and now this motherfucker is selling chicken and being three in the motherfucking thing. Oh, I don't regret anything because I think everybody's successful in the church. I have joy now. That's the whole big thing.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:09

You know, I left that the church alone, but I never lost the joy that it gave me. That's why every day I smile, that's why every day I'm happy. That's why nothing can defeat me.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:17

You had to go through everything you went through in order to find that slice of happiness that makes you happy in life.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:24

That's right. That's why I'm always thankful. I'm always thankful for that. Because like I said, I mean, uh, you you can't be a hustler without faith. You know what I'm saying? Can't be a hustler without faith.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:35

So the doors to the church are now open.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:38

Yeah, Raw always gonna preach, baby. Raw always gonna preach.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:44

Raw taught me a lot, and I I know a lot of people might not know that, but I can I can spin circles around a nigga when it's gonna make it money. And I got multiple hustles, you know what I'm saying? And I'm gonna be honest, I actually come from a very privileged background. So mind you, at the time I started with Raw, I was still in high school. So, right when I graduated, I moved out. Baby, I don't know nothing about life. You know what I'm saying? I'm broke, everything. Raw was showing us how to hustle and get it. When he shut down everything, I was I was at the flea market with my CDs, selling my CDs. You know what I'm saying? To this day, I work for myself. I got my business, I'm selling my products, and I be hustling, but that was a good foundation for me straight out of high school. Like, girl, you gotta go get it. It ain't gonna be handed to you.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:41

You learn what's going on. I'm seeing it more than somebody telling you that.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:45

Well, man, that was the thing about MMG. I never tried to sign nobody. I never tried to make, I told them all the time, like, nigga, y'all are generals. I'm training y'all to be generals. I'm training y'all to do shit on your fucking own. I've never tried to ever be, hey, you're under me. You, yo, I you I pushed. I pushed them to be greater. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 1:26:09

You know how Block learned how to uh video and edit and record? Same shit. Just like, yo, cuz, like I know how to do this because I learned from Raw, I learned from other people that showed me how to do it, learned from Chad. Now I got this knowledge. You get this knowledge, so that way, first of all, you ain't gotta call me every time. Second of all, you can stand on your own two feet. You can do it without me. I don't want you to need me. I want you to be able to stand on your own two feet and go with doing Julie at my house, record now.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:44

No, man, like I said, I always, man, like I said, anybody that's been with me, around me, man, you're gonna learn because I don't believe in holding nobody's hands. Right. I always, I always wanna show you how to do it. I'm gonna teach you how to fish. I ain't never gonna feed you niggas. Fuck out of here with that shit. And see, my mentality for everybody that I fucked with and did shit for, I always felt, you know what I'm saying, it was an investment. You know what I'm saying? Because I felt like, man, if Juliet does well, I fuck with Juliet, maybe she'll let me open for her. If Blue does well, maybe he'll fuck with me and let me get on a track. You see what I'm saying? It's never been, oh, I can make money off of y'all. No, I just want to be in the conversation. That's what everybody I fuck with. That's why, man, anything that I've ever done throughout these years, man, I've always been on some man, you can do this. Let me show you how. This is how you do it. I ain't, man, anybody that's been around me, they know because I showed them. I said, hey, this is how you're getting it done, this is how it is. Man, you can do this for yourself, man. And even if I didn't, I'm showing you because man, I'm I'm in real time with this shit. You know what I'm saying? And man, and then it's gonna Help me because guess what?

SPEAKER_10 1:28:01

Now you can record me, and I know you know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:04

Yeah, like I said, man, that that's what it's always been about. Like, man, even with Chulo, man, I man, I remember when Chulo used to come through, man, and I used to put him on stage and I'd be like, man, before the die.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:20

Hey, so before we get that last segment, I know you wanted to say something.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:24

Oh, yeah, I was just saying, what's different, bruh, is your mindset is different. You know, just listening to you talk. Because the problem with most people in Jacksonville, I always say people want you to do good, not better than them. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of us gatekeep, unfortunately. You know, um, I've learned so much, and I hate to even say this, from white people. You know what I'm saying? About certain stuff that certain people wouldn't even tell us. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm I'm in the guns, like I've learned stuff about guns and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:51

I don't know why though. Because they they make us think that it can only be one. Correct. You know what I'm saying? They make us think it can only be one. If I made it, I gotta keep this position, cuz.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:59

Yeah, to keep you there. You know what I'm saying? Instead of like you just said, hey, I'm I'm in the conversation. You know what I'm saying? If you do good, now you might reach back to me. But the key word is maybe. You don't feel like she owes you nothing, but maybe it'll happen. And I want to get it myself. And that's that's what the difference is. The people here, and I I hate it just seeing the scenes or whatever that's different in our city. That's one of the main things. People want to keep it really well.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:24

I don't know what you call it, but I just think it's called you're investing in a genuine relationship. Like, I'm this is the type of person you I'm a I'm a honest motherfucker and I want to be the best for you. So I'm giving you my uh education experience, whatever knowledge I have, I'm gonna be giving it to you because I care that much. And if it comes back, it comes back. I'm building that relationship. And if it doesn't it's not like that, though. Well for most people they they they doing it was like, well, for me it wasn't about when you talk about most people, then you're talking about shit.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:59

Well for me it was about uh the city. You know what I'm saying? My whole thing has always been doing this for the city. That's why I've done so much for the artists in the city. And it doesn't matter what art they're doing, because at the end of the day, I do everything for the people that you know died and went to jail for this shit, you know, that I fucked with. And I said, man, I don't want to see that happen to nobody else. You know what I'm saying? Because, man, there's nothing more beautiful than pursuing your dream, whether you're whether you make it or not, because success isn't measured by what they say. Success is measured by how you feel. You know what I'm saying? If you feel you're successful, then man, no one can take that from you. You can't sit up here and man, a hundred thousand is successful to you, man. A motherfucker with ten million is gonna be like, you're not successful. But when I know I've been living my whole life with a hundred motherfucking dollars, you can't tell me what the fuck a hundred thousand feels like. You know what I'm saying? So I'm successful as fuck with this hundred grand. And guess what? My life is gonna be so much better for it. You know what I'm saying? Because man, you can have 10 million and still not feel successful. You know what I'm saying? And then you're gonna be empty.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:17

Robin Robin Williams died with 70 million in the bank. Yeah. In the bank. In the bank.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:23

You see why I say living life by living. Success is measured by different parameters, you know what I'm saying? Everybody's own opinion of that. You can be success can be just being happily married. Success could be, yo, my kids are all in school doing their thing. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my kids. I got four kids in college, one about to be a doctor. That's another guy, right? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:31:46

Third clap boots. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:51

Uh shout out to my wife who stuck by me through fucking so much. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:31:56

Man, we had that boy, I would have meh. Oh, because yes, Raw was a wild one. I ain't forget what you said earlier, nigga. Last segment, I call this or that. Um, just I'm gonna give you two options, just like we did last week. Just give me your answer. Um, I always start off with this one because it's a debate everywhere. He already laughed, because he was that foolishness. Joy and LeBron.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:21

Iverson.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:23

Kobe. I say Kobe, but you know. That's the helicopter he's doing right now when I say Kobe. He's going to hell. Hey, who did that?

SPEAKER_14 1:32:35

You hear that's Kirk.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:38

No, Wilt Chamberlain was playing when Kirk grew up.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:44

Underground, uh Pentagon. Oh, definitely the underground.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:48

What?

SPEAKER_12 1:32:49

Well, you know what? Underground. Yeah, we're there. Jordan is responsible for Irison.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:56

Underground crazy, by the way. Correct. Got you another underground with that crazy MMG or no love.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:07

Look at how I'm looking at him.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:09

Well, I'm gonna say uh I just told your way. Try me one more time.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:16

Uh shit. I'm one of those people that, you know, uh, it's always gonna be about the foundation. Origin story. You know what I'm saying? So it's always gonna be no love because without no love, there is no MMG.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:28

I gotcha. Y'all gotta take that, Juliet.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:37

We had him in the building last week. Swarez and nephew.

SPEAKER_12 1:33:40

Raw from no love, nigga. I love it. Fuck you started with love. I love it. Hey. And just for the record, man, I I I have to say, you know what I'm saying? Swarez be talking that shit, man. But on everything, man, Swarez wasn't fucking me on that stage. Like a verse, I wouldn't give a fuck. What a nigga say. There wasn't one motherfucker in the city fucking with me on that stage. I put money on that. We get the boy back. I put money on that.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:23

Hey, I got a couple motherfuckers with that.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:29

Ain't nobody fucking with me on that stage, man. I put money on that. You still jump on the speed. I love it.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:38

You remember that?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:47

We heard the ticket jump on a six by nine.

unknown 1:34:51

Tweak the ticket jump on the night.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:54

And you know this.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:56

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:56

We used to have to practice like listen, we have lock-ins, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:02

Yeah, we did, man, because yeah, that's that was everything, man. That's the church. So we heard you earlier.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:10

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Churches are shut in. Churches are shut in. Philly, Philly or Duval.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:17

Man, it's always gonna be wherever the fuck I'm at. I like I like supposed to be.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:23

But I love every bit of it. Um's or frost.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:31

I'm gonna go with Choes, that nigga from Philly. I knew it was gonna be Philly.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:35

But Frost got saved, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:43

Man.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:44

Yeah, Choes is my nigga, though. We go way, way back, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:46

Last one. Last one. Uh, cool runners of Genesis.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:50

Cool runners, man. Come on. I used to be one of Billy's artists at one point.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:55

Man.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:56

Yeah, that was way back, man. Talking about. Way back. Man, listen.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:04

Who started Duval? Hey, we ain't gonna need to. The thing is, we we know who didn't. We know who didn't.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:11

I like that.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:12

Come back, the guy who discovered Bone Thug. Man, the dude that said, hey, hey! No, man, no, man. That's that man. That's his friend. So I ain't gonna do that. My bad, my bad. Both of us friends.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:21

I want to give a shout out to my homie Boogie, man, because you know, uh I'm calling Boogie the Duval's godfather, you know, like saying that. And that's gonna clap.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:35

Edit that out.

unknown 1:36:36

Edit that out.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:38

Call me tomorrow, girl. Like you clap, everybody else will clap each other.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:48

On behalf of the staff, we really need y'all to stop encouraging the bullshit. You know what I'm talking about? The boogie does not hang.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:57

You got 24 hours, though. As long as you keep these 24 hours good, I'm gonna keep that segment in there, duh. Long as you stays, everything stays good for these 24 hours, I'm gonna keep that little piece in there about being the godfather. Now you mess up in the next 24 hours, we're gonna cut that out, though.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:14

Come again, say what? Come again, say what? So he can't call nobody no well. Hey, don't do that, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:21

Yeah, I wanna give a shout out to all the MMG, you know what I'm saying? Because you know, a lot of people uh help build this shit, you know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. And they did a lot for the city as well, because anything that I did, they did with me. We rolled this shit. Man, we man, we we started a lot of things in this city that were positive for the artists, for each other, you know what I'm saying? That's why it's always love. When they ask me who I want here, I said, shit, just put MMG with me, you know what I'm saying? Because everybody else is, you know, is cool and shit like that. But man, over the years, these people have always supported me, always been there for me, and uh, and it's always gonna be love. But I mean, to be real, the city's always supported everything I do. You know what I'm saying? Like, people be like, man, the city, man, the city has always had my motherfucking back, man. Like, since I was selling CDs on the motherfucking street, you know what I'm saying? They have always had my motherfucking back. They come to the show, they come to the events. Everything I do, I wouldn't be successful, man. Even with the band, shout out to my band, you know what I'm saying, you know, because ask me if I care, you know, we still doing shows and shit. I still have the bus.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:30

Man, I need to sell the I need to sell the motherfucking bus, man. We got a bus for sale, we got a bus for sale. I got so much shit. I need to sell that motherfucking bus. We got a bus for sale, we gotta bust for myself.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:42

Wait a minute, but the Petty Lives Matter Mobile Podcast.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:47

Man, I'll give y'all a deal, man. I'll give you gonna drop deal.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:52

I'm scared because of uh J Pence and uh J Pimp and Damon have been on the bus. You might have to check them seats first. I got a question for you. We got beds on the club up. I don't know your situation, but if you meet a woman, what you gonna tell her your name in?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:09

J Pimp.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:10

Damn right.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:13

I got my ring on. I've been married for years. Prior to that. Prior to that, J Pimp. I'm gonna tell you the truth.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:20

No, no, I just remember what you said earlier. That's what I was asking. So that's cool.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:23

Remind me what I said earlier.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:28

So I figure you might just tell her your name Jay and introduce him.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:37

I told my dog. That's my act. And you know why I draw that?

SPEAKER_10 1:39:42

Because you know how you a nigga. And I'm gonna come to you and tell you exactly what I want. That's really good. I want to give you some rainbows and butterflies.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:52

You definitely don't trust that nigga. Listen, man, we we definitely gotta do this again because it's so much conversation that can be had with all four of you. Not y'all. All four of you. We we got so much more conversation to have, but uh concur.

SPEAKER_12 1:40:12

Yeah, they all have motherfucking conversations they can have by their motherfucking. Right. I'm telling you. So I don't do nothing. Also, I appreciate the invite as well. Also, let me shout out uh Trap House Chicken, my staff, right? You know what I'm saying, my managers, everybody that's making this shit, what it do, you know what I'm saying? Everything's a blessing, man. I'm just blessed to be here. I appreciate everybody that's been supporting me, rocking with me, fucking with me, you know what I'm saying? It's always love at the end of the day. I fuck with everybody in the city, even the motherfuckers that don't like me. I love y'all more than I do. You know what I'm saying? More than I do. I don't pull the three up in more than you should. You don't do nothing else.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:51

If you don't do nothing else, man, y'all stop by here, get your old 10 piece Southern Baptist, and get some of this knowledge this man got. This man's a wealth of knowledge. Right. Like, serious, man. Y'all slide and and make that happen, man. Go, don't take us out of here, uh, my boy.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:06

Well, y'all know what it is. This is your boy, Bishop Petter LeVert. And like I always say, take care of yourself, take care of your people, take care of your business.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:14

Humble message. Who said something crazy? This chuck, man. Thank y'all for listening.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:21

Hey, this big day, man. We better get we about to get out of here. I don't know what just happened, man, but we about to get out of here. Uh, before we get out of here, we're gonna uh start them right going on and and and and telling them how they can contact you and what you got going on really fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:35

Y'all can contact me on Facebook. It's Roshana Gains, R-H-I-S-H-O-N-A. And you can check out my website, S-A-C-R-E-D-C-I.com, sacred c dot com.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:47

Say that one more time on the looks like. Tell them what you said for the women going to see.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:51

Tell them what you said for the women.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:53

Them pussy cleaners.

unknown 1:41:54

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_13 1:41:55

Oh my god. You sell boring acid. She sell it well now. You sell a boring acid. You sell the bushes well now.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:05

You said the management water balls. The booty bone.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:09

So, first, so y'all know, I'm an herbalist and I'm an integrative health practitioner. Go ahead on now. So just know that I know what I'm doing. Okay, and this is how I was raised. Um, but I make yani wash, yani oils. Pretty much I keep your coochie right. All right. Cleaning that little coochie, right? Kurt and take two. So does the yani oils and the wash, can men use that stuff too? I got a penis wash as well. I got a lot of men customers.

SPEAKER_13 1:42:40

No, I was asking because one of my boys was doing okra water, so I didn't know curtain's like curtain two yoni water.

SPEAKER_08 1:42:48

We about to get it. We not doing this, though. We not doing this.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:54

Motherfucking junk me that's a big one. Why you always get like a message?

SPEAKER_11 1:42:58

You still live in the we are not gonna talk about okra water tonight. We gonna go around to Mommy Blue. Blue telling where they can find you and what you got going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:07

What's up, man? I'm everywhere, Blue Minati B-L U, M-I-N-A-T-I. Um, you can also find me uh Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all that shit. Um also Blues House. I run a little podcast over there, talk about movies and films and shit like that.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:20

So he don't know shit about Marvel. I just want y'all to know that right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:24

Hey, hey, hey.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:25

Let me move. Hey, hey, let me move.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:30

I've been waiting. Hey, I've been waiting. Hey, hey, hey. I ain't never seen this man before in my life, but we we be on the book. We be on the book. And he got some egregious and take for Marvel. We need to come on that combat and get you. But he didn't tell them, but he done used the word egregious, you can tell the words. I'm gonna have to bring y'all up. Yeah, he done used some egregious attack about Marvel. You know, this time with white folks talking about, oh yeah, the blue Marvel can be.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:08

The boot should be serious, though. We're talking about who we can be.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:13

Hey, we got J Pimp next. J Pimp what you got going on?

SPEAKER_10 1:44:15

What it is, man. At J Pimp One Shot, that's the only thing I'm gonna give you because I'm a little bit ducked off. You know what I'm saying? I keep doing my thing. I'm not in the game like that no more, but uh I'm still in the game.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:28

And one more, one more time, but we in the trap house.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:32

Definitely, man. Welcome to the trap.com. We do catering, we order all that great stuff. Ask me if I care. Uh, one word, that's my band, you know what I'm saying? And I just want to give a shout out to everyone out there and this beautiful petty ass motherfucking podcast.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:58

All right, y'all. We out.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:00

Yo.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:07

Thanks for listening to another episode of the Petty Lives Matter Podcast. Make sure you stay tuned with us and make sure you follow us on Instagram and Facebook at Petty Lives Matter Podcast.