PeTtY with a side of Mental Health

The guys from PLM are back!!! On this episode the guest was Tamir Shabazz registered Mental Health Counselor, right in time for Men's Mental Health month. Let's see if the guys were able to keep it serious or did the show become PeTtY as always.

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Nigga dancing they really want me to respond, cause he tryna give them some fame. I be damned if you play with my name. Then on their block, I'ma give me a stain. Let them get it sunshine from the job, but they gon' think it throwing them when I let it rain. I need her where to put it, and it hurts. And that shit I left him in pain. But I really came up by the mud, they give me a dollar, I split up some chain. But I really came up by the mud, and they still tryna throw dirt on my name. That way I call me your pain. T I need they must think it's a game. I'm gonna find my start up and plain. Swerdin' the trap, just stay in the room. I keep dirty with me like a side. She would go baby so I see. I dust stood in that feet like a Viking. When we hop in that car, we gon' be pussy gonna lie. Day low down for a nigga tried. My shooter got angles, he called from the side. We might catch him and wet him online. He let it rip from it, he'll for the loose nigga know how I'll come. Yeah, I know what it is. This is your boy Bishop. AKA uncle stepdaddy. It is I the humble messenger. This is Chuck Man. Welcome back. Hey, is your boy Big Dame, aka Mr. Cut You Off, because my point is more important than yours. Hey yo, I can't stay when I we bite. Bite Bite. You done been here long and long. You are a dufolian, though. Bike is the real word, though. That's fair. Definition of it means we're here. Interpolate. The interpolation. Oh shit. Damn, who we got today, dog? We got super, super, super duper special. Special guest. That brought us off of hiatus. That's how special he is. He needs a show all to himself. That's how special he is. I'm talking about, boy, we ain't need no guests with him. Solo, dolo. Saw that. Special, special guests. No last minute guests. Do the right thing. Got his own show. New Jack City. You done seen him. Hey, let me start talking. Let me start talking trash for my dog and say I'm taking shots. I'm gonna leave it alone, man. Taking no shots. This man's special, dog. He is special, man. Yeah, special. Man said that. Who we got in the building, Chuck? Hey, that's little bro, man. Lil' bro Tabmel. Tab Mill Chef ass. I stump like a lot. Lil's a big thing. I don't know nothing about that, but I also like the Lakers. What are they? Link Salam. My Lakers a lamp. We in here, man. What y'all? It was good, man. Just chilling, dog. Chilling, chilling. What you been up to, dog? What I've been up to? Yeah, yeah. What you been up to? Oh man. Living, dog. Living, living, living. Living, man. No, no, no, no, no. Let Donovan introduce yourself. What's your name? Oh, man, bro. Um, Tamir Shabaz, you know what I'm saying, man. He says Shabazz, but that's what everybody says. Don't eat though. Don't nobody get it right. Hey, man, I'm reformed. Oh, okay. So you want them new? All right, I get it. I'm reformed. I was raised, you know, uh Muslim, but you know, I guess I'm now in practicing now, so I I enjoy the swine. Yeah, you don't care. You're a most definitely because it sounds like it didn't. You're a more definitely cuz it looked like just when you said that. Yeah, swine. Swine ain't never uh hurt nobody. Swine is fine. Swine is fine, exactly. Swine is divine. Ooh. I don't care what it is. I don't care what the video is. Bacon. I needed one more rhyme just then. I wasn't gonna look at him because he was gonna say something off the chart. I wasn't gonna say anything. You eat swine? Swine is divine. All right, so that's why I went to the city. You know, curve in the dog. We had a good time on it. I'm about to say that, bro. Who was that? Called Jahart, Jimmy Wine. Jimmy Wine? Who's Steve in the Stevie? Stevie West take a good shot. Man, you told that man, hey man, tap in to see what they haven't for them. I said, what? No, bro. Listen, ride this one. Man, y'all need to leave that man alone. As soon as I turn around, Stevie walking down the stairs, coming looking right in my face all the way down the stairs. I said, see? He finna see her and everything. He finna stay saying stupid. To me. To me, dog. I'm glad everybody had a good time, man. Everybody in the room went. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I'm gonna tell y'all, no, I probably done told you before, I appreciate y'all boys. I I need that and that. I had a good time on the boat, dog. We was deep. We was we was we was thick, dog. So I was um we had a deep. We're gonna pause both of those just in case. Did you see Nick Jackson Funny Marco? Oh my lady. So what is thick? Oh, you know what? I saw a post on Facebook, and I guess that's where it came from. Somewhere it was like something about me and something coming out. You call a man thick. Yeah, Funny Marco called him thick. He started right now to me. Can you probably call niggas thick? I mean, it is it's different levels of thick, but no, but Marco has been doing this for a minute. Oh, okay. PJ Mojo Brutz right there, talking about that man 90 is fine. Yeah, 90 is fine. And called the nigga on the phone though. Corporate five. He was like, You think he's 90's fine? And he was like, Yeah, he is. You gotta watch the whole podcast. Oh my god. How you gonna sit on that money without your thick self? So Dave Jackson said, Oh, I know who was trying to be funny in this thing. He told a matter of fact, you went in there without a mask on with your regular face. He said, Don't you scare everybody caught that on the mask? Niggas said they put all the money in the bag and you was and I was still in the car. Hey, dog, mate of food too. But back to your question. I I've been living, dog. Okay, okay. Well, yeah. Huh? No, I mean I mean. What time is it? I don't know. I can't even tell you, son. It's broke. I don't even. What? What you mean? People lie every day. Damn you got a new watch? No. It don't even work. It says 709. Curvins of the military, he'll say 1909. People lie every day, B. Yeah, that's JB. They use military time at Ray for Dollar. Anyway, what you been up to, dog? Yeah. Hey man, I'm just living, bro. That's it. Everybody's doing. Trying to make it, trying to trying to get through. That's what we're doing. Is May Mental Health Men's Mental Health Month? May is men's. No. Mental Health Month, August. June is Men's Mental Health Month. Okay, correct. Exactly. Oh, so we get to celebrate this month and next month. Kind of like the mothers do. They celebrate Mother's Day and Father's Day, you know. Okay. That means celebrate Father's Day. Huh? What mothers do you know that celebrate Father's Day? You'll see them on Facebook. I'm the mom and the dad. No cow knives. Oh. Oh, cow knives. What's the cow knives? Whoa, Doctor. Whoa. Okay. We're doing that. No, we are not doing that. Exactly. Hey, I can't believe you just sucked me into doing that, dog. I'm listening I don't know what just happened. I know what happened. You ain't got no haircut, dog. That's what it is. You ain't yourself, dog. Might not have no job to keep on bullshit. Don't go to work looking like that, you ain't gonna have now. Yeah, but we but they no one everybody been so nice to me. But that boy going through something. You look like you out the trenches, like you might have that tool on you, like the people y'all grew up around. Right. Houston got a haircut, dog nigga. Bruce. Hey man, nigga, you tell me just cut me hair, bro. Let me take you down right here, but it never said, Man, go ahead. God damn. I don't want to hear about that. Right. Like you go back just for a haircut. Yeah, man. What you been up to, dog? Just living, man. You know, that's all I'm gonna do. So you know, say, you know what? I I took a few trips, you know what I'm saying? Went on a cruise with you boys, and I came back and went over to Mine Creek and Hilltop and a couple of the places. Turtle Creek. The mountains, Turtle Creek. Denver, Colorado? Yeah, no, I was I was a hilltop dog. Over there on Mount Helena up the street from Chuck Church. Three three three street names. I ain't never seen them mountains in Marine Creek. I don't know how to get there. Oh, oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Creek's in Turtle Creek. Let me tell you something. It's mountains on Mont Creek. No, definitely. It's mountains on Mont Creek. You just don't know it. You just got to be tapped in, though. You get in the right spot, but they got them different kinds of mountains inside the spots. I got a hundred dollars to find a creek in Turtle Creek. It's one of my ways. Hey, it's my thing. When you say $100, let's do it. I think you buy such money. Let's do it. How much money do you say you got, Kirk? It's a creek. How much money do you say you got? None. He said you got a hundred. He said like he was he was at one of them. My home. My home boy got a house in his water. It's a creeks back then, though. It is. I ain't got no money. It's a bad economy right now. You can find one back on pressure. Well, nigga taught you a for real, but I bet say 1912 for real. I thought the nigga would joke. Oh, yeah, that's that's that's disrespectful, bro. I thought he was joking, though. Yeah. When y'all use military time, y'all just be trying to stun on everybody. Right, man. Yeah, I have to use it every day and I don't have it on my purse. Right. Me too. When the new world order comes in, we ain't this where we go. This ain't about it. I ain't no joke. Y'all thought it was a part of NWO. This episode ain't about conspiracies, but when it happened, y'all, okay. What? Then we're just gonna be able to do it. We just might gonna wear it on our wrist every day. Yeah, yeah. He ain't gonna know it. Oh, okay. We ain't gonna know it. So you know the most people ain't? You gonna be the only one on time. No, I ain't gonna be the only one. Okay. Most of us gonna be the one of the ones. Most of us gonna miss tomorrow. I'ma know, because whatever whatever change happens, Steve is gonna call me dog. Let me know. Division. Bruh. Bruh. Don't do that, bruh. That's my dog. I'm gonna let it hear it. Listen, listen, dog. Check this out. So we get the head. I said I missed it. What did he say? I think it said nothing. I think he said division. What? Oh, we are in the division. Hey, Stevie, dawg. I ain't gonna let him ride on the phone. No, check this out, though. We're in celebration key, dog. We rent a van. I said everybody phone work for GPS. He the only one his phone worked for GPS. He's sitting in the bike seat behind me. Dog, I you turned same times. Who? Stevie. Stevie. Bruh, uh, that was your turn right there. I said, what? Tell me ahead of time. Bruh, one time he said, at some point you're gonna turn left. We're on a dead end road. I said, Stevie, if I turn left, turn to somebody's garage. He might know somebody working. Huh? It wasn't his phone. He just said it was his phone. See what you did? He just said it was his phone. You know why. He got a satellite built there, satellite. You know why. Mr. Silester. Bruh, we pulled up on the spot where they when they swim with the pigs. No, okay. No. Put up on the spot when they swim with the pigs. So the mother said, do not answer. You know we had to go find Stevie. So stupid though. Savage. White they memory so they won't know we came. I said, hey man. Dog, the crazy, you ever saw them swim with the pigs? I done seen them on video, but I ain't never been. So look, they got them like in a cage. Oh, they got them in a cage. I ain't no. They got them in like a like a cage, but then they go to the beach. Okay. They got like a net. They can go to because people running on the beach, but when they get to the water, it's a net. So they're gonna go so far. So they can go so far. So they go straight out, right? So two of them go to fight. Yellow off the boat. Hey, stop, go back. Well, stop immediately. The mind control. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It works on humans and animals. Hey, but why you playing though? I talked about that before. Like, hey, somebody's trained the orca, dog. Like, how y'all did? That's why I feel like there's some people that have tapped in the stuff we'll never understand. Speaking of that, never mind. That's another show. That's another show. What? It's another show, my bad, though. Don't interrupt us again and say it's another show. Hey, see, see, see, see? See what I'm talking about? He got me acting like I look, dog. I'm trying not to, though. Yeah, yeah. See how easy how easy violence comes out of people out of here. That's aggressive. That was aggressive. I do. I do. I don't take much. You know what, brother? I apologize. What they say? Cloudy with a chance to drive by? What? We ain't seen that one before. Yeah. When you say they, who you talking about? Dem? The people. The old, what'd you say? Dem day? Who? Dem Day Who? Hey. Damon and Damon Damon and H. Dem Day who's? We're not talking about a whole lot of people. We're not talking about them day. Hey, man. Hey, these people are offering me a promotion. Oh, yeah. I don't know what y'all are talking about. Hey, you go. So you don't care. My dog getting the promotion. You don't care? Because you look like you want a demotion. Ooh. Nah, no. It wasn't a Skype interview. You're gonna have to put an AI filter on. Hey, chat GPT, uh, give me a haircut for Zoom. Give me a bald head and no facial hair. My bad. Give me the curtain. Give me the curtain. Give me the curk. Give me the curve. Hey, I'm sorry, sir. He sent me a. I'm not violent. I knew he was talking about you. You are violent. No. I'm not violent. I'm gonna tell you what just. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Pause. Mind me. Pause, pause, pause. LeBron. I hate to even do this. You ain't violent? No. Which one to jail for? Something I didn't do. Oh. What do you go for though? Something I didn't do. If I didn't do it, straight up on everybody in prison. Not guilty. Bro, no. There's some guilty niggas in there. I worked in the law library. There's guilty niggas in there. Nigga said, give me the bald head, no face hair. Nigga said, give me the curtain. I saw the dog. I'll just was it a violent offense? It was. Oh, but I didn't do it. That's all I needed. But I didn't do it. So how does that make me violent? I don't believe you did it. Then why you say I'm violent? You was not. I mean, a lot of people get off of stuff that they did that they didn't say they didn't do. I mean, it is what it is. You on the violent stuff, not me. You don't? No. Okay. I got water guns. So you're not violent? No, negative. So if the baby calls you right now and take a man on the bus stuff, try to pull her in the car and she still see him. What you gonna do? He's gonna be violent. I'm gonna be accordingly. That's not violent. He's gonna say that. Set of set of skills. Hey, guess what? We get into the car. I would just for the same thing. We're all gonna be in jail. No, we ain't gotta get in no car because we are listening. And that man's gonna call Stevie. I'm gonna be gonna be very poet. No, I'm gonna be really good. Now you did that on Stevie, but my bad, Steve. No, I love you, though. I'm gonna be honest with you. We're gonna beat more than honest head. Most of us have 401ks, and we got reasons to 403B. You got a 403B? Okay. Who is most of nonprofit? I got a feline shoe box on that. I bet you do. Nah, I got a guy named Blowfly. That that's Paul's I don't even like that. I got a guy named Blowfly. Oh Curry. He walked into that one. Blowfly. I didn't walk in, that's his name. Blowfly. His name Blowfly. So there's a there's significance to all nicknames. Yeah. Why they call this nigga Blowfly? Because he's big as a blowfish. He like this. What's uh y'all got some other stuff going on here? I was wondering. No, a man named Bluefly because he really big. What's the alternative word for a zipper? I don't know. Okay. Fly. XYZ. Do they have zippers in prison? XYZ. What's the XYZ? I would say fly. Fly. Yeah, people say your flies now, you know. Yeah. Oh. Zipper fly. Okay. So he's saying do blows flies. That's why I gotta be gotta be careful. The fact that he thought that was crazy. Hey, no, my mind is crazy. That's why he might clarify. That's why I need to clarify, dog. I mean, it don't matter. You my dog anyway. There's no clarification. There's no clarification. You my dog anyway, dog. The fact that Chuck over there Googling something. He can Google what he wants. I keep telling y'all secrets don't make friends, man. That's your favorite line. But you don't practice it, dog. I do. I don't have no secrets. Yes, you do. No, what secrets do I got? I can't go say it on the podcast, man. Say it. It's okay. That was a nervous laugh. That was a nervous laugh, Kurt. Curtis. This is what we're doing today. I need you to go to the barbershop. You're not. You're letting them influence you, dog. Am I? You letting the devil use you. Which one is the devil? Both. Damn. Both of them. Both of them. Who? B-O-F-F-U-L-F. Both of them. The owl. Tamir ain't no devil? Nah. The owl. That's a man of God. That man said he's Muslim. Crazy. No, he's reformed. He said reform. He eats unjust. Hey, listen. First of all, him and Roger takes me three, four days a week, dog, cussing me out, dog. Do you do the white women? No, he don't. Po the cocaine? No, he don't. What you talking about? Most Muslims that default, they default on poke, white women, and cocaine. Wow. Hey, bro. Move it right along. Hey man, why for the man of the hour? For sure. What we gonna talk about? What we gotta talk about? What we gotta talk about. Slow down a little bit, brother. Where y'all boys wanna take it? You know what I'm saying? What where y'all wanna start? Dog, I swear I have to look right at you when you're talking, dog, because I I goddamn seemed like Johnny was sitting there. Let's talk about these life sentences that was just given out. Come again and say, Well, I'm sorry. There was no life sentences given out. No, sir, it was sweat equity. Sweat equity. Sweat equity is giving out. 25 years. The man said natural life. Oh, okay. Natural life. The man said they're too young. But I saw something that to destroy. So how much time do they get? Sweat equity. No, no, no. Give me the year. Natural life. So natural life is until they die. Never. So that's that's life. That's what he just said. It's life. It's not without the possibility of parole. Oh, I mean, I don't know. Oh, so they can't get parole at some point. No. No possibility of parole. So that's what he just said. Life. Natural life. But it ain't 25 years. Life for some people might be 45, it might be 55. It might be two years if they get in there and can't handle it. Well, I don't know the inside talk. It might be one. But life means until you die. Correct. Oh, okay. So the the fact that this man got, that he publicly used the word sweat equity, that fucked me up for the simple fact that I'm like, so we just bowed with it now and we're gonna have the conversation to say it. I didn't have a problem with it. I did. I didn't. The judge said sweat equity? No, no, no. It was a it was a war. It was a good thing. It was not a warning. It was a water. Yeah, yeah. The way they sat up. They asked him the question of So what are you trying to say they did a good thing? Yeah, they asked me. This is just a sad question. He basically said, Hold on, hold on, hold on. Young is strong. You're gonna we're gonna we're gonna use you. But let me all the time. Let me give you the question. They asked him, do you think that he would like benefit the prison system? And he basically said, Yeah, because the older niggas is dying. We need these young people in prison that's gonna bring this wet equity and we can get this work out of them. That's basically what he said. And and I'm looking at it, I you ain't have a problem with that, Kurt. Because it's the truth. A lot of people like to overskate it and don't listen to it. We got privatized prisons now. The government no, but what I'm saying is they're the majority, not the minority. Okay. It used to be private prisons, used to be one or two in the state of Florida, and the rest of them would be um state run. But now it's the other way around. It's a total flip. You probably got three or four, you probably got maybe ten. I don't know the exact numbers, but we can find it. And to be honest, not a control. Listen, this is what we let him go. When I saw it and somebody said it to me, I said, I hope all these jits see that. They don't care. See, so here's the deal. They never care. But what we have to understand is when you have private prisons who have contracts with the state for enrollment and housing, there's a there's several lawsuits against the federal government and against the state of Florida currently, right now, because the private prisons are suing them because they aren't sending them enough customers, sir. Okay. But wait, the contract says we have to send them 80% capacity, or we have to keep 80 bids filled. That's what we're responsible for as a state. That's the contract we went into with the private prisons. So when the man got on there and said, no, we don't need to kill them because we can get sweat acquaint out of them, what he's saying is we can fulfill the contract that we have. But what that got to do with you not having a problem with because that system has been going on and people got sometimes you have to understand, just like what Ray said. Kurt Kurt looking at it from a business standpoint. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not sure. No, no, no, no. Stop, stop, stop. It's not right. No, this is it's not a it's not a business standpoint. I'm looking at it from the point of this has been going on. That don't make it okay. We we do not have we do not have a a fair justice system in this society. Kurt, if you listen to what I said, I know it's been going on because I said now they're making the statement public. So here's the problem I don't have. Okay. Y'all been doing it. Now you are bold enough to say it. So you can't hide behind. See, as long as you don't say it, it don't exist. And that's what people have been reeling with. I don't have to deal with it, so it don't exist. You know, there are people, white folks, who believe that if the police arrest you, they arrested you for a reason. They don't believe in police brutality, they don't believe that the police set you up, they don't believe that the criminal system is slated to one side. And so until you start putting these situations in people's face and making them what they are, don't sugarcoat them, just make it what it is. Is. Then you have to ask the real question. Why was he bold enough to say it? Because it's true. Well, I used to believe to be silent is to be complicit, but now I'm thinking it's not because I'm listening to what you're saying, and you're not being silent, but you're complicit. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think he's bold enough to say it because who is it? I did not listen. Right, right, right, right. I'm not saying that I'm complicit with it. You asked me, did I have a problem with him saying it? I said no. Here's what I have a problem. I know because it sounded harsh and it came off rough. It came off rough. But that's what it is. That's what it's gonna be. What I'm saying to you. Had they not said what public amendment says. That's literally. Well, they're trying to repeal it. They're trying to repeal that. So my point to you is even if they hadn't said it, would it still make it right? No. Would we still be concerned? I wouldn't see people. No, but when you say that you don't have a problem with it, it sounds like you're okay with prioritizing with the colour. No, no, no, no. So let me clarify. I need them to understand that they need to say it more. Like, here's the thing that pisses me off. Burglary of an occupied dwelling and a home invasion, by definition, is the same exact crime. The only difference is the sentencing guidelines. And then when you look at the demographics of who gets charged with burglary versus who gets charged with home invasion, which is a PBL punishable by life. Sure. Now you start to see the discrepancy. Why do we, if it, if justice is blind, then why do we have two rules? No, that's not true. Right, that's what he said. Why do we have two rules for the same crime? And you're having why do you I'm glad you're you're explaining that because that was my first thought when you said it. It was like, what about the people who are not guilty? What about the people who are getting oversentenced and stuff like that? So we haven't addressed your president just cleared $1.8 billion. Billion. Yeah, $1.8 billion. To pay back the January. No, I'm gonna show you the I'm gonna show you the hook on that too. Wait, wait, watch this. So it's sitting up there just sitting there and they get to claim this money, right? No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no. That money goes to him. It's not, yeah, it's not okay. So they're gonna show you the hook. Go ahead, go ahead. Show it hook. Show it up. The money is for people who have been wrongly persecuted by the government. This man has been saying since he's been in office and since been running for office that he's been targeted. Yes, yes, yes. He's gonna keep that money. No, no, no, no, no. On top of that. Somebody else has to be able to do that. On top of that, the RS, the RS. There's a provision inside the rule that the RS cannot audit. Nor his family the rest of their life. For the rest of their life. That's bold, though. So he can't even get an audit. So remember. Blacks can't get reparations. When we had seven, eight years. Seven, six, seven, eight years. I'm gonna release it. No more heart. He's not a king. Then I'm gonna sue Rue RS for $10 billion. That's crazy. So back to back to where the original questions started. Um I I saw when uh I don't know whether y'all saw when the, I don't know dude's name, but it was the light-skinned guy. For sure. He was uh sitting there and he was basically pleading for his life. Because he didn't want the chair. So he was pleading for his life. Did y'all see what his homeboy was doing? What, crying? No. What? Laughing at him. Correct. His homeboy was laughing. He was chuckling, like, correct. And and and I have more respect for us for his homeboy, actually. Because his homeboy did you did? Oh no. He like, we signed up for this. Correct. And now you're sitting here pleading. Correct. He ain't he ain't pleading. You can't jump in the water and say, oh, uh, it's dying this nasty, it's gonna, I'm gonna get out now. No, no, no, no. They made the sidewalks because everybody don't belong in the streets. Let's be very clear about that. That's the reason why sidewalks. I mean, that's what I told you about these old ass sayings. It may be old, but it's because they do that. We got an old person on the podcast. He grew up before sidewalks. So he was raining. Dirt rope. Here's what I've always said Consequences and accountability in our community are non-existent right now. And that's why these young people are out here playing Fortnite and Call of Duty in the middle of the street. There are no consequences, and we parade and celebrate them for the fuck show. And again, I I've got to go ahead. Who parades and celebrate so? Go to social media. They're friends. Why? They do it for the adoration. They do it for the weird nigga said we celebrate the prison. Why? Education. We see over prison more than the college graduate. We know what's promoted and what's not in our community. Who promoting it, though? Yeah, Lucian Grain and people like that. People that's over these corporations, these C listen, you can say, I I watched Dave Chappelle say something about the Chappelle show. He said, you know, the censors came in one time and he was talking about how the lady was telling him, David, you can't say, take your headphones off. You can't say faggot. This is one of the things he said. You can't say faggot on the air. He says, because he said, why not? She says. Those ideas are the ideas of Kurt Sign and Kurt Sign. Nah, this is this is Dave Chappelle's stand-up. And he made a point. He said that the censors came in and told him he couldn't say the F-word, right? Faggot. He couldn't say on it. Right? And he asked her why not, and she says, because you're not a faggot. He said, Well, I'm not a nigger either, but y'all let me say it. That was dope. Yeah. Without impunity. And that's my point. We have a duality here that we do not question. We let it rock like it's supposed to happen and we don't call it on the carpet. When we when you start saying what it is, now we have to address the elephant in the room. We're having this conversation because the white man came on and said, Do not kill them niggas. I need to sweat equity. So now we gotta have this conversation. Yeah, he said the quiet part of the city. Yeah, you said you said what he wanted to say. Correct. He listen, he had he not said it, we would have just been talking about, yeah, they shouldn't have killed that boy. But we're not talking about the dude who would have been saying it. Okay. Who would some people? If that man wouldn't have said that, minus his conversation and minus his the way he he delivered the con the delivered the statement, if he would have, if they would have came back guilty like they did, and the sentencing would have came out and they said life sentence, nobody would have said a word. Nobody wouldn't be having these philosophical debates of whether that was a harsh punishment. Because that's the conversation right now. I don't care about the punishment. Yeah, but that's the you don't care about it. Even if they would have been sentenced to death of anything, I wouldn't have had no problem. Correct. You wouldn't, but because he said it now all of a sudden I said it's a problem. Live by the square, you're gonna be able to do that. You're done the other conversation. Can I make my headphone? Before you put your headphone on. I just quoted what Dave Chappelle said. No, no, no. I just quoted something. Let me just say I just quoted what Dave Chappelle said. That's not me saying the F word. I am repeating what was already presented out. We got you. That's all. So yeah, you can put it back to the code. So yeah, so um when it comes down to certain words, like the F-word that you use is such a bad word or whatever, but it all depends on like the context. So you remember the comedian that was on the boat. You know what I'm saying? Because I asked nobody when we was up there playing cards, and I said, I was surprised you came back the next night. He said, Why you say that? I said, Because you were saying some stuff about a certain community and usually people get offended or whatever. And he said, I get called into the office so much. He said, Now when they call the phone, I just pick up the phone and say, I'm on my way. Because you know it's gonna be an issue. F-word that he used, which was the word faggot, is looked at as a bad word. But he said the reason that's a word low sticks, he said that that's another whole nother thing. We ain't talking about multiple definitions, but he said the way that he told the joke, he didn't say it about anybody. He said what his grandma said to him. Right. And he said, because I worded it that way, people weren't offended by it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because my grandma. And here's what I'm saying. Just like that's because we was on the boat. But anywhere else, they like to tape and focus on semantics. They pick out little words and I want to be offended by all they remove all the context. You see Alice D uh special? The S word. And he said it was in the 80s. Oh, that's true. It's true though. But that wasn't even. But listen, when he said that, no, no, no, hold on. When he said, I don't so this is my thing. I don't have a problem with the word because I know people that uh say that to me in that way. I don't have a problem with it, but people try to look at it as being bad. Like I used to work with somebody and he we joke with each other and everything. He said, that don't bother me. Like I don't care. Hear me out. Hear me out. Most people don't. There's a whole community of people that have been affected by some way or another. And people actually use these words to actually like cause harm. Yeah. Hurt these people, uh, run these people away from different places. They use these words when they hitting or abusing these people. Uh so I've heard so many different stories. Like in my line of work at the job that I work at, Doug, too, I had to change from my line of work because y'all niggas. No, no, no, I get what you're saying. No, but um, a lot of people use it just as hate. Yeah. Hate, but a lot of people use it as a way to get over to. Oh my God, he said that dog. So it it it goes both ways, like some of y'all friends. So um my god. Huh? Go ahead, Doll, finish. But I was catching straight as the day catch up. Wait, you remember on the speaking of the ship? Nigga said JB was fine. Nobody said, No, he said, nigga said it was okay. That's what I remember nigga. Nigga had JB one year. Hey, what cologne that nigga you got on? And nigga said, Woo. No, JB was on the elevator. That was up. That wasn't. JB was getting the elevator because nigga say, uh uh. Can we say punk? Can we sing? There's some fine niggas on the shield. Oh no. That was bruised, dog. But I would walk around with bruise saying niggas got a lot of people. This is fine, dude down there. I'm all white. But you know what to my intention though? Uh a lot of people you play around. Yeah. And a lot of them boys got hands, but uh them boys have been. I seen them with somebody. You know what I'm saying? That's why I would see that's why I would never fight one, because it's loot. If you beat them, you can't even let the foot. I want my daughter put hands on. You got to beat up, you got you got beat up by him downstairs, dog. You can't explain that. So because I'ma clown you the whole way, dog. If you get beat up by him downstairs, I really decided I'm just not gonna edit our post this message. Hey, listen, I ain't even listening. I don't have no problem. Everybody's gonna be able to do that. Hey, hold on, buddy. It's about we love everybody. You know, you bobby trying to set us up. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the taste message, right? Oh, yeah. Here's the thing though, and and and this this brings to the bigger point for me. We get we let me just go ahead, you go. Causing problems, man. We get so bent out of shape about the alphabet community and their acronyms or the names or the slurs like they like to call them. Okay, that's but no one gets offended. Like I remember. No, no, no, because Damon just said it. Who? Damon just said it. I was trying to be nice to say it different so nobody wouldn't know it, but don't worry. Damon just said people were called that while they were being beat or, you know, called it in work. Same thing. I know niggas was being called niggas when they was getting whooped with slaves and hanging from trees and buck breaking and all of that. Back to the what they used to call you on the chain game. Nothing. Back to the hem down cell. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like at the end of the day, um, we weaponize certain things, but we don't keep the consistency of it. But same thing with horse. I'm glad you brought that up. Jangolane. So, what's funny, I saw a post on Facebook and people was talking about people didn't realize Bernie Mack was playing a gay role. How y'all didn't know that? But he was so funny that nobody really paid it attention. But he didn't know what I'm saying. Here's the thing I'll tell you too about that though. He didn't play it with any stereotypes. He played it in the context of how it was. Because this grown men that'll walk past you and you won't even, you be like, oh, he cool. Nah. But still, you know what I'm saying? He's still. You gotta think about the job, but he wasn't funny. The era of that that movie portrayed the era too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So all of that takes a part of that. Back then they didn't call him the S word or the F word. They said it was soft. Well, that boy finest. Or you know, they'll say like they slowly. I'm gonna soft around. Okay, he didn't say it was taking like the city. You know the rules. You called it to me. So you called the Shabbat. You called it downstairs, you called it Shabbat. Shabbat. You know the rules, man. I'm finished. Yeah, that's the only one. He got you back. You know your brother. Speak up. I got you back. It is what I'm saying. Hey, listen. No, I'm just saying though, all those aside, if what's good for the geese is good for the gander. That's a old one. Y'all can use it. Yeah, it's good. But it rains all for gender. Biblically speaking, for you biblical people, go ahead. It rained on the justice well as the unjust. Yes, that's right. So you cannot tell me that we're going to enforce decorum when we're talking about other communities. But when it comes to the black communities, you can say whatever you want. It's a privileged conversation, though, right? Like some of those groups or classes of people are protected, right? They have other people. Why aren't we protected? Right. That's the question. Do we have infrastructure to protect? Do we have that? Supposedly we do. How could that hate crime level got real quick? Boy, you took the words right out of the mouth. And the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act is dead on the floor. Right. That's what I'm saying. Them people got theirs on the floor. Them people got theirs real quick. Well, now let me ruffle. Listen, privilege. At the end of the day. Let me ruffle some of your democratic feathers. Racism is alive and well. Oh, it's been where racism is still going to exist. It's one of the main reasons why we're dealing with what we're dealing in this country right now. But even for your even for your people that say the Democrats are this, and ain't none of them people for blacks. Not Republicans, not Democrats, not independents. Joe Biden approved the anti-hate for Asians during the COVID because people was going around calling it the Asian flu and the president real fast. Less than 60 days. That's what I wanted you to say. Less than 60 days. But y'all been killing black boys unarmed since the beginning of the time. The Kung Flu, yeah. And your president. Yeah, your president said that. Your president said that. Kung flu. But that's what that's what I'm trying to say. He's at the top and then he's at the city. Oh, attitude reflects leadership. So everybody remember that they can say it. Remember that attitude reflects leadership. Everything that they blamed Obama to be, he's that. He is that plus that. For sure. The antichrist. Yes, that's that. Oh, he it could he is definitely that. But I just think it's a slap in the face to all African people of uh people of African descent in this country for them to give $1.7 billion. Oh, yeah. So you gotta throw that $8. I'm sorry. $1.88 billion. $1.8 billion. They say $1.9 billion. So damn near $2 billion you gave. It ain't nothing shocking about that. Y'all heard Chud Chud the Builder? Yes. They done raised over what, $100,000 for the bigger? And did you see what that judge did? They can't use a dime to get it. They got a recorded car. I ain't even talking about hardest money law. Wait, the fact that they raised it. Okay, so hold on. Oh, go ahead. They do say how much money did they raise for George Zemmer when he shot Trayvon Martin? How much money did they raise for um Kyle Rittenhouse when he went across state lines with a loaded AR-15? They like to say racism doesn't exist. But you see it right. So that's what frustrates me when people say that. Like, ain't no way you don't think racism exists. You know what I'm saying? Look at the justice. Again, I'm a firm believer of this. Why do you have two sets of laws on the books for every crime? You know why. And I know why. But they gotta they gotta admit why they got it there. They ain't gonna admit. You don't have to admit nothing when you're in power, though. Exactly. Just keep it. No, you're in power, you don't you don't have to admit anything. So that's what I'm saying. Like I just I just think it's crazy. And then even when you talk about the Yiddish community, right? You can't say they have that thing so trained now. You can't even, you can't even, you can't even say the word. Wait. I said Yiddish for a reason. No, he said that thing being trained, and then he said, Whoa. Oh yeah, I ain't gonna endure it today. So if y'all don't know what Yiddish is, because I ain't gonna say the word, um, because I ain't got the kind of money to fight them folk. Yeah. Um, the Yiddish people. Hey, what are you talking about? No, Kanye in trouble? Uh-huh. No, what uh what Booch is saying? The Zionist. The Zionist? No, you can't say that word. I know, but that's what he's saying. I'm saying Yiddishid said, Butcher said it. I'm saying Yiddish. Okay. I'm saying Yiddish. But you can't But that show is still a respect to power, dog. It does. You know what I'm saying? So certain stuff ain't gonna change. And we so quick to give ours away. Here, and I've always said this. I think I think it's I think it's a a a mind thing, a programming thing. Like we talked about violence and all this other stuff, you know. It's promoted in our communities, man. It's promoted. But let me let me give you a different viewpoint of it. It's promoted in our communities. One of the major ways they do it is by music, which is why I picked that song. Because we talk about when we talk about why our younger pivot into that conversation attracted to that lifestyle, the gangster lifestyle. And I think it's a it's a combination of things. One of the things is mindset. I hate a couple of terms I hate. Black on black crime, I hate it. Because you know, crimes that are crimes are committed are a part of the demographic that you're a part of. There's no way on black crime, and white on white crime, correct, Asian or Asian crime and all that, correct? But especially when our people use it and use that term. It bothers me, so that's why I come back to the program. Now, we're also talking about, we just talk about drugs, let's talk about violence and all this other stuff. It's not respected, but you don't hear people the mob making songs about killing and all that, but they alive as well in that movie, and they're also respected. To chime in on your point. And they're also sniffing. The mob, hold on. And the mob and three basketball players all got convicted or all got prosecuted for gambling, yeah. But ain't no gambling with the arenas? So but that's but ain't nobody seen the mob. So only somebody basketball. So once again, it's been so quiet. So once again, the issue is the people that are in power are able to push these narratives. So it used to be the regular media, which is news, now it's social media. In search y'all jokes in the city. I see, like I told y'all before, I saw these posts where we be arguing about relationships, black people, all that stuff was based out of Asia. So now it's like a digital warfare. That's part of the issue. Because guess what? If a dad grows up and he's a military, and the granddad was military, that grandson might be military, that's respect, the same thing with preachers, etc. But the dope game gonna be the same way. Because one thing that we're gonna try to do is survive. So if that's all I see is drugs, the guns, the dope, the killing, and all this other stuff, and I see he's the man, like the neighborhood that I grew up in. I know it's like the main man right on the street. Back then it used to take care of the neighborhood and all that. Back then I looked up to it because it's like, oh, I want that life. But luckily, I had positive influences around me and in my family that say, You ain't gotta go this way. You know what I'm saying? You can do something different. Now, it's also the flip side of it. The women they like the thug life. So if I can put on this persona and be a thug and I can get the woman that I want, and she's fine, and she the nurse and all this other stuff, it's all programmed, it's all in the mind. You know what I'm saying? It's all in the mind. But that music is one of the major things. And now these dudes, so while they commit a crime and go write a song about it. Right. Now you respect it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Now come on, just keep it real. Like, I know for sure, us three, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure you two, y'all know somebody that's about that life for real, for right. But they're not around here talking about it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Or writing music about it. And you would never know. You would never know. You know what I'm saying? So I think social media is detrimental to our community. It is. You know what I'm saying? It's a gift and a curse. For sure. It's a gift and a curse. I love the family part of it. You can reach out to people you never seen forever. They know that kind of stuff. People, hey, I'm broke down over here, da da da, so I can that kind of stuff, but all that other stuff. It's the same, it's the same thing about guns. Like people say guns kill people, guns don't kill people, stupid people with guns kill people. People who weren't taught to respect life. I had that foul occurred today, though. He did. Okay, okay. I ain't even gonna put it, he's gonna see. He's talking about it all live. See what I'm talking about? Hey doll, he threatened me. He's talking about it all live. You threatened me. Negative. No longer a duty to retreat. Yeah. No longer. They're tools. And it depends on how you use it. Right straight up. Right? So if you're using social media to spread mental health awareness and positivity and Love and connection, then great, right? It's too much like, you know, it's you know, it's it's positive. Um and like, you know, a gun. If you're using it to, you know, wreak havoc on a community, it's you know, detrimental. But if you're using it to protect somebody, right, everybody wants one. Well, positive, right? So it just depends on how you use the tool. The backpackers and the positive music, they don't get the spins that they get. They don't get the promotion that they'll they'll let you create genocide in your own community. They won't allow it in theirs. But they definitely wouldn't allow it in yours. Do they not allow it in theirs? Aren't they like the number one consumer? So that's no thing. No, no, no. They don't allow, what they allow in their community is blacks talking about killing blacks. Okay. That's what they allow. Okay. But when Ozzy Osborne was talking about killing everybody, he was banned. When Public Enemy first came out, white folks didn't want their children listening to Public Enemy. They didn't want to listen to KRS1. That was a banned situation. But they cool with their kids listening to Lil Uzi Vert and Kodak Black talking about killing another nigga. Super Gremlin and all these things. It's the things that they allow in our community that they don't allow on their own. It's the reason why we're allowed to have dilapidated neighborhoods and low-income housing, but they aren't allowed to have it in theirs because they understand the like, it's and this is the thing that makes it criminal. You know the psychology behind having broken down tenements in a neighborhood and not having resources and having food deserts. You know the impact globally of what it causes to a community. That's why you don't allow it in yours. You don't allow liquor stores on every corner in your community because you understand the impact, the associated behavior that comes with these things. So you don't allow it in yours. You want to push it over here, and then you get upset when it spills over into yours. You follow what I'm saying? You get upset when it spills over or somebody can make a decision. We want it back. We got ice. Listen, this is the funniest thing in the world. It's not even funny, it's tragic. We have ice under this current administration kicking people's doors in and accosting anybody who they even think looks like an illegal alien. That's the word they use. Undocumented. Undocumented. Yeah, thank you. They get congratulations too? But we don't have to have smile. But wait, here go the funny thing. There's an entire Russian community of undocumented folk ain't been touched. No, no, no, no, no, no. Why not? The the the Africans, the white Africans that they brought them over. Oh, they ain't honest. Yeah. We ain't even they brought them over here, so we know they're not touching them. You brought them over here. You created a fast track to bring them here. And that's because of Elon. Yeah, okay. But people are. My point is there is a Russian community here. There's a European, undocumented population here, but we don't see them in these raids. We don't see them going over the riverside. We don't see them going to San Marco. Because we never will. It looks like, and and there we go. And so when we start calling out that hypocrisy and holding them, when we start speaking truth to power that way or start holding them accountable that way, then we do it. But see, we don't want to galvanize. Now we can get together and have a come together day, but we can't have uh we not finna do this day. Like aging is constructing a process. I think I think we do. I think we think about this, dude. It was 40 plus of us. 44. 44 of us. No foolishness, no, you know what I'm saying? And and that's what I tell people, dog. I mean to say this too. It was a weird, it's the biggest flex for us to go on and do that. Not just being men, but black men. It just so happened, right? My homeboy has sent me a text that his old girl, his girlfriend sent him like three or four days before we went. I guess it was on a radio station where they said, why do men go on fellas' trips? They did. That was shouting man. Right, right, right, right. And I said, No, no, no, no, no, I said, so I asked the question, I said, why do women go on on later trips? But I also said, I said, dog, think about how many times we don't get checked on. We told work, straight up, provide, protect. You don't never get to say, hey man, how was birthday? Are you alright? Did you get an app? Did you get a break? Do you need a break? You know what I'm saying? Dog, I checked JB this. I checked JB before I said, not only I was bad all of us came, I was glad he was celebrated. I was glad he had a good time before his birthday. I'm glad all of us came together and did it. It was a few that, but for the most part, we had a good time, bro. It was no foolishness. We don't, we don't have it, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Y'all know the answer Charlemagne gave. What? The typical, I've been caught up and almost got the best answer. So if I'm gonna go on a trip, I'm gonna go with my wife. So watch this. So watch this. I'm gonna be clear. Let him have it. I don't listen to Charlamagne because I believe he's a plant. I think he pushes narratives and ideologies that other folks have about us. Here's the thing I say about this. And y'all know we've had this conversation. Y'all invited me a couple of times to go, right? I wasn't going. Go away. And it wasn't for the to the to the to the cruise. To the cruise. Okay. I wasn't going. Right? It just wasn't my thing. And I cruise all the time. But I do cruise with my family. Right. But here's the thing that I that I'll push back a little bit. And I don't want to take away from any of the positivity that went on in the cruise. Go ahead. Look at that, J. The backhand compliments that we got, the secondhand compliments that we got when we were on the cruise, because that wasn't the narrative that's out there. Usually when you see that many black folks together, it's gonna be some fights, it's gonna be some this, it's gonna be some that. But to see all of these diverse men of color, not all from all walks of life communing and joining together, that's not the narrative that they want of us. So that'll never really be celebrated. You follow what I'm saying? What I started to do was take Joe's speech and then just take pictures from all the years and combine them after Joe's speech. I think you should do that. We'll still do it. Yeah, you still do it. So Kurt, let me tell you the flip side of that. There's a video of, it was we was on a cruise ship, the meat meal video. Remember we were all of the same meatmeal? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Posted in a cruise group, dog. In a black cruise group. And the lady said, oh, that's why y'all we listen to this song and everything. Now I gotta go tag everybody to say, hold up, bro, we educated people, we entrepreneurs, we this, you know what I'm saying? Remember, we was in the club and we and said it all kidding. So everybody dancing whooping. And the lady said something about Damon Pan sack. I said, I had to bring it all the way down. This is in the black cruise group. So the other day when I tagged y'all in the group, it said post the pictures in the in the in the group because they be hating people. I done went through the city. But when I hit her with the reason, Kurt, it fucked up. But then everybody had to let her know, hey, I had to buy my pants big, got levadema, I got this, I got that. She was like, oh. So but that's what people do. It's a see, people want to respond, and then they get celebrated for attacking that because that's what it's about. They don't but the dudes the same way. That's what I'm saying, though. Oh, I think it looked gay. I'm like, man, I was snapping on them, dude. I'm like, yeah, y'all got this one. No, no, and one of the dudes, I posted a picture. Some dudes was like, hey man, that's dope. You know, blah blah blah. Other dudes, man, I'm gonna go out with my wife. I said we do that too. I say we do a couple stuff and everything. I said, this is one time a year where we go out and get away, and we ain't got to worry about like a big thing. They don't want y'all to get it. So we got normal life, we got work, we got family to take care of, everything. They always want y'all to have that reason. Mental health. They don't want you. So mental health has always been taboo in our community. Yeah, right. You see a therapist, you're crazy. Right. Or if you have a breakdown, yeah, I know. That's why I've got a good brother. But they can't see that on the bottom. Tell me up. If you see a therapist, you crazy. If you have a mental breakdown, you crazy. Grown men shouldn't cry. Man up, take it. And I get all of that, right? You get all of what? Man up cry. I'm saying critics take it. Exactly what I'm talking about. He said man up and take it. He said man up and take it. Yeah, and I get all of that. And I get it. Yeah, yeah. This is the reason why. This is the reason why this right here is a perfect example. Listen, this is the perfect uh stop. This is the perfect example. Dudes do not talk about mental health. That's the cut. Hold up. Everybody's not talking about it. Hold up, hold up, hold on. Hold up. Hold on. There you go. Hold up. Everybody's not able to take what? Niggas don't say it. But listen, it's the least one of a nigga on the killing stuff. I guess we know because we do. Hold on, hold on. Don't be so loud, but check this out. The last eight episodes, a nigga call me gay every episode. I do, huh? I do, I do, I do. Because you can take it. Ohdy in the middle, but we got to do it. Okay, think about this. Think about it. Think about it. It's funny you said that. We had to say that, right? But check this out, right? Her we see each other, we talk, we we we we message each other every day. So we message each other. Me and his brother was in middle school together. So I've been knowing Savages. Me and JB been friends since elementary school. Correct. You know what I'm saying? So this 30, 30, 30 years of friendship, and most of those people that was on the ship with us, the same thing. At least 20 years of friendship, 25 years. Most of us went to school together, whatever the case may be. And we know how. So I tell people to don't invite nobody that ain't gonna fit in with the clip. Right. You know what I'm saying? Not, not, not, because everybody, even at that, Kurt, think about this. It was 44 of us, 40, whatever. It's always kindred spirits that the people that smoke cigarettes, everything gonna fall in line. The people that pay spades at this table, the people that pay dominoes at this table, this age group here, the crew that hang together, but when we all get together, it's all love. You know what I'm saying? And you know, we sit at the dinner table, laughing, joking, jokes going on, eating, but everybody good. You know what I'm saying? And it's always been that. There's only two people that can't come again. Not this time. But you were you were right, though um, I meant groups of people that hang together. Right. Like we had 85% of uh the men's mental health group was there. Correct, yeah. 85% of our group, I mean. And some of them say they came because of the affiliation. Like they're really coming this year. Or this is probably about what, 10 of us? Yeah, thinking about nah, more than that. More than that, yeah. More than I haven't been because I be working on Saddam's. Hey man, call in. Excuse me for tool to the incompetent. But even with even with the mental health saddle. I think I think part of that is also like information based. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of us were taught, you know, you don't tell nobody your business, correct? Whatever happened in the house, stay in the house, etc. And blah, blah, blah. And I don't I don't think I think that's one of the major things. A lot of people a lot of things our parents and grandma grandparents taught us was wrong. That's the bottom line. But people don't know. But no, I agree with that to a certain point, but there's certain things that you should. No, no, I'm I agree. There's certain stuff that you should talk about, but I'm just saying why? Because if you grow up all your life, like kids are naturally skeptics, and they're given these rules early on, and then well, I ain't supposed to say that. I ain't supposed to think that. I ain't supposed to do that because you're worried about what somebody else thinks. You know what I'm saying? So even like when I talk about, you know, what losing my mom, I don't have a problem with saying that I cry because I need to let people know that even though I'm playing, I still deal with seasonal depression, et cetera, and I'm cool with talking about it, but a lot of people won't even speak on it. You know what I'm saying? Because they think you're gonna be looked at as being weak. Yeah, that too. In a situation like Delph, anyway, everybody deal with it like, you know what I'm saying? Differently. Yeah. I still have my mom and my dad. So I can't understand how you feel about losing my mom. My grandmother. So now that you said that, you know what I'm saying? I can feel that. When I lost both my grandparents, I was like, okay, that hurt. But I lost my dad in September, right? So I never, up until that, I never experienced that type of loss, to be fair. Um, and that's uh that's the way it's supposed to be. That's the way, to be honest with you, you're supposed to bury your parents. But at the end of the day, it's still your parent. Right. It's a part of you that lets you know that life is real. Like you're going to exist, you eventually, I'm going to, look, my dad's death let me know that I'm not gonna be here for every year. Right. And my daughters are gonna come, it's gonna come a day when my daughter's gotta move forward. You feel like you feel me? And so, correct. So I I get with J B because up until and I'll be I'm gonna be perfectly transparent about this. I joke about everything. And it ain't nothing off limits. We talked about that. How far, how too far is a joke, our joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we never go down. If we didn't start, if you didn't start it, it ain't no too far. Right, right, right. We going to Jupiter. Right. We're going to the outer moons of IOS for those that study the new. Yeah, don't worry. We'll take it to the sound. It's the moon, it's we're going to the abyss. Okay. Um, your your your favorite auntie that died last week. Yes. She's coming out the grave for this conversation. That's how far we finna go. No, I'm just saying. But when my dad died, I thought, you know what, occurred? Nigga say something about my daddy. I'm the only person. Yeah, yeah. But then I said, you know what? You can't even be like that, bro. Shit. But yeah, I'm with you on that too. What? You can be like that. Yeah, you can't. You can't you can't. But I was saying to myself, like, I because you're a hypocrite, but I didn't become they don't know what you're going through. Yeah, they don't. But see, mine's fresh. But do it make a difference? Do it make you see what I'm saying? I mean, yes and no. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it's somebody that I'm close with, like one of these, that's gonna be an issue. Because y'all know that. But if it's a random stranger, I can't tell you one time. Now, back when we was in middle school, we knew everybody's mama's name. Yeah, man. Like everybody, mama about the first thing. You know what I'm saying? Walking down, walking down the class. I'm just using the excuse to say that. Don't even talk talking about a black person's mama. No, I'm just saying, but in middle school, though, we knew everybody's mama's name. You know what I'm saying? But as we get older, not one time I can tell you that we joked about each other. Me and Tudor say, you know what I'm saying? I go with your mama. You know what I'm saying? You my son, that kind of stuff. Nah, you said more than that, though. No, I'm gonna tell you what he said, dog. Nah, he's gonna talk about something. If he ever loses his phone, my passcode of my phone is Tudor Mama's birthday. Complain too much. But I tagged him in the poster. But get what he came on and said on site. And then bomb is a joke, dog Well Vanel said. Like, come on. The times that we in, uh well, we was in school, we ain't yelling anymore. Yeah, we can't. Now we don't know if if somebody mama goes, yeah, yeah. But yeah, even with that, with your tutor, y'all got a relationship. That's love. Exactly. Somebody on the outside looking in. Oh, they crazy. Even like the stuff we do, like the stuff people that know us know now. You know what I'm saying? But if you just Jimmy, Jimmy be having people we ain't never heard of in here, friend. They be having one mutual friend. I'd be like, nah, I need crazy. I feel this that's why I made that post that day. I said, hey, listen, man, if PML is, if PLM is talking to each other, y'all stay having a conversation. Yeah, you can be sure for sure. It's gonna be a little different. But just think about all the stuff that was being said on the cruise ship. Y'all went back to eating seafood and uh Pat Moody, Pat Moody, the Parish, Parrish Ice. Shut up, dog. Ice Bruce, can you cut? Stevie. No, you know Pat Moody. That was Lincoln. Oh Pat Moody said. Moody already thinks y'all pick on him too much, dog. No, no, he don't. No, he don't. Get what he said. He looked just like you parish it up and he said, and you do eyebrows look right at Paris. See, and I you know what's first had his eyebrows out of that we said. No, no, they just look at things. I think what the what the hard part is is you know, a majority of us are already funny and we're with it off rip. But people don't understand the magnitude of it. Like, I even being on the boat, I think it was Joe or somebody. No, we went to the pool hall. Um Joe was like, bruh, we like, oh y'all crazy. And I always say, I say, y'all think I'm the worst one, but I'm not. But imagine with 10, 15 people in the same way. Tall, running, running. Riding shit with saying every day, dog. Y'all too, y'all do too much, dog. For real, chill out, bro. But that's the four parents every day twenty. I'm not giving y'all no emanation. That's a characteristic of brotherhood, right? Like the Jones you joke about. Hey, dog, and I tell you, to be honest, and then that's the thing too, dog. Like, we too, we too tough nowadays. You can't call your own boy looking. You the only one tough, dog. You don't even want to slap somebody on the time you see. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got a text message, dog. See, now you're trying to reverse me, dog. You just text me. Why are you texting me back? You just text me and say, How you know my phone with a hat? How you know my phone with a hat? Okay, thank you. You ain't text me back. The Android. Remember, you got the Android. I just got my phone back. It was a threat. I just got my phone back. It was a threat. I sent it to the police station. Is that the Obama phone or is that the Android? Either one. Hey. All my bank accounts work on. So, Dunnerman in your profession. In your profession that you that you work in. Yes, sir. Unpa? How many men do you see like us? Like fat and black? Damn. Yeah, I'm I'm fat and black, but no, seriously. Um the overwhelming majority of my case load um is is adult black men. Okay. That's dope. Um so I would say that. Is that good or bad? Oh, that's good. That's amazing. No, I would say it's good because there's a you remember when we had Kim and uh Watch, there's a shortage of black men, so they're probably seeking out somebody that can relate, right? Yeah, no, exactly. And like statistically, like black men are more likely, like 20% more likely than our white counterparts to have mental health challenges, but only a third of black men actually seek therapy. You're not like Dr. Bryant, are you? I am not like Cheyenne Bryant, my brother. That's not true. You call him a doctor, right? That's a doctor. She trademarked the name. Yeah, no, no, no. She trademarked the name even. It's a business internet. What came up last night was the uh the old post from Corey Holcomb when he said she was like, so now I'm going through the comments and I'm in there like, oh, so y'all ain't gonna apologize because y'all were snapping before. So he was right. But that's why we get away. But who was who was commenting on her behalf mostly? Women, black women. Do they apologize? No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm that's what I'm getting to. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Well, he got a homegirl that be posting stuff on Facebook that's Kurt Homegirl. That don't like black men. And uh, yeah. That's the internet, yeah. Damn it, that's so resolute. I mean, the thing is, the thing is, I I look at the post and I be like, well, damn. What's the what how you feel about your so I'm gonna say this hurt people hurt people sometimes, right? And it's easy for you to love like this is a girl that worked with me like that, and she got three sons. How does that work? Well, because you know, listen, you ever see the women that dress the men like the niggas that left them up? Some people hate what they create, bro. Oh bars and bars. Okay, it's the truth. Same thing with we talked about that community. You know, I've heard the stories, and that's what like makes me sad when people family like disown them and stuff like that. And and truth be told, a lot of it comes from hypocritical families and people. You know, y'all want to get rid of this person because they gay. Y'all we don't claim it we don't own you, but the little, little, little, little, little pooky them that then went to jail, y'all keep trying to bail him out. You putting your house up and then all this stuff. Y'all be fine, following Ryan Davis. Right? Right, immediately. You know his brother, his brother gay. And he was saying the family kind of disowned him. No. So he said he would go to the gay clubs with him. Just so he'll find us and say he went, he saw him transition from being prissy or being too tough, or just just just do you know what I'm saying, doing too much, but he's like, that's my brother. He was another comedian. He on a role with me. RNA S Davis. RNA SJ. RNA's J too. No, it was somebody else. I don't know, was it Alice Adek or something? Somebody was another comedian, but he made the joke. He was like, Yeah, I'm the gay nigga brother. Yeah, or whatever. He was like, I ain't got no problem with it. Right, you know what I'm saying? Like Ryan Davis is like real real bokeh, real boker box. Alice Adika boxer, but Ali Sidk. Baby sister, uh, so he cried. Alice Adidas was a killer by that. Yes, he did, but Alice Adik is a killer. So I go for that. So on Ryan Davis interview on Vlad, he just released it yesterday. He said that. He said, you know, um uh Ali after after he went through his after Ryan Davis went to his despite with Netflix and all of them and all this stuff, he released um his special on Alice City YouTube. Oh, he produced it. He produced it for it. He said, he said, people be online saying Alice City be talking to noise, he's like, bruh, he liked that for real. He was like, you're the nicest guy ever, but if you take him down, oh yeah. I can you're hearing him talk, though. No, I mean that cat Williams saying it came up out like catch it, though. Cat chill. So no, honestly, it ain't man, I can't. Alice Siddhartha will be like, Ali Siddiq did seven years in prison, bro. He's a killer. And it's just what it is. Yeah, what everybody's not built to do it, and and and you can tell who built and who ain't. No, you said he's up by a 13 yard. You seen why he was put he was about to kill the uh CO? Yeah. You seen you heard her? Yeah. That's a true story. They stripped them buttons in front of everybody to embarrass them. He had made plans to kill the correct people. Anybody that's been in prison, you can listen to Os D and know that he actually been there. He wasn't just the stories in general. He was he was in general population. The Muslims are clicked up like that, and then it's where it would have been at. So Jimir would have been over there. Yeah, oh yeah, he'd have been converted back to the city. He got a special back to him. He'd been over there with a beas to them. Yes, I had a beas. Yes, I yes, I guess. Hey, he got a special where he was actually talking to somebody that used to work at a prison. Yeah. He was like, Oh, you used to work there when you were there. So they had the conversation. So talking about the camp. I listened to him talk about why he did the YouTube thing and why he took that, why he created that vein or that lane for everybody because candy money is different. I don't know about the Well no, it wasn't even that. He he reposted his clubs. And Comedy Central flagged it. He said, wait a minute. I own content. He says, I'm doing my stuff. I'm promoting my own thing that I did with y'all. They said, well, we own it in perpetuity. And we feel. And he said, I felt like when the way they said it to me, I felt like they said they own me. And if y'all haven't, well, I guess anybody that's been to prison that had any kind of good sense, they really sensitive, including myself, really sensitive about people trying to get over on you or make you do something you don't want to do because you you when you go to prison, your control is limited. The things they control what you can have, what you can't have, when you're supposed to go to sleep, you don't have freedom range of movement. So anytime when you free, you don't want to, nah, it ain't that type of game. So anytime that you, as a free man, it's certain things that I'm just not going for. Right. People that oh, you shouldn't talk to a police officer like that. No, they shouldn't talk to me like that. Like I'm not finna go for certain things simply because that's a that's a demoralizing, dehumanizing situation that you go through. Right. And you're not finna allow nobody else to put you willingly into those type of situations where you they get to talk to you reckless, right? You you and this, you taking a shower and the COs are coming in, don't look at you. Hey, I want to hey bro, why you trying to have a conversation with me and I'm sitting here, oh, you you just the inmate. We do what we want to do. You just want to look at some nuts, nigga. Like these are the conversations that go down because I really want to kill this dude. Like you really want to get on their head. Like, hey, bro. That's why certain stuff I know I can't do. I can't go to prison and I can't be no school teacher. Well, I didn't, I didn't think I could go to prison either. No, no, no, no, no. But I'm saying I'm gonna try to make sure I stay up out of there because I know, yeah, you know what I'm saying, I know my mindset. Like they said the video uh yesterday, these kids throwing tantrums and stuff like that. And I'm like, that wouldn't have been me, because I would have literally had my hand on the back of his neck. I've seen people, and it's true, so we was taking the bus to uh Lake Butler. Selma? Nah, to Lake Butler. You said Selma dog? It was a dude on the he know JB. So it's a dude on the bus. Right. And oh man, he listened to him. I'm weird, I'm a goom, I'm a gangster, I'm a holler, all, I'm a big thing. Dude's in bottom doing all that talk. Oh, he's barking. So when you get from Lake Butler to Tomoka City, we call it a boo game. Yeah, well, Tomoko CI is a main camp and a work camp. The main camp is for people that's sick. They call it the drunks and the punks, right? So it's people that's sick and people that's taking that medicine. I didn't say none of them words. And so how long did you get? Bro, we go to the medical call out so that you can get a work pass to go outside the gate. That man got his leg shaved. He got Kool-Aid on his lips, talking about his name Candy Cane. How much time he did? I don't know how much time he did. What kind of Kool-Aid was it? It was red. Yeah. He shaved his leg. That's that's one of the sign types. How long have you been knowing? 30 years. Long time. This is why I don't trust you as a thirdist. This is why I don't trust you as a thirdist. You ain't convinced this nigga to come out the closet yet. That's not what we do. It should be okay. I wouldn't say what they do when they ordered time. Listen, I wouldn't say was Candy Red like light skinned. All 44 of us. All 44 of all 44 of us on that ship. We're not like that. Hey, how close you got to be to somebody to see a nigga have on their legs? Correct. Probably gotta have a leg in your hand, right? Hold up. Tell me I'll say correct. I just say correct. Oh. You ain't gonna answer my question, Damien? I really don't know. So in prison, they give you pants. So in and in DOC, they give you pants, right? The answer to JB question because he be with the foolishness. They give you pants. Uh-huh. But them boys alter their uniforms. They cut them into shorts. They sag them? So you can see. No, they cut them into shorts. They are work pants. They cut them into shorts. So you can see that their legs are shaved. It's not like you gotta be up on them to see their legs. So but you had to look in order to see it. Why are you looking at the case? I'm just saying though. When you got your hair braided, did you get personality everyone? I never got it. I'm braided in prison. No, sir. Kurt just cut a hair week for laugh. My hair wasn't braided in front of it. I mean for the crew here. They make people braid in prison. People braid it in the same place. Look at his fingers. He got braided hair fingers. As a therapist, because he had braided finger. See, see this. I don't know what braid the hair fingers look like. Small and narrow. From a therapist with a special. It's not a therapist. So let me ask y'all this, right? In terms of like manhood and masculinity and in performing manhood, do y'all think there's one way to do that? Or can it be different based on your individual ideas of manhood? Me personally is going to be different for everybody. Because everybody's different, different personalities and things like that. Like, for instance, in my line of work, I never really wanted to be a management because typically when you work for certain companies, they want to do this blanket approach. I never agree with that. Everybody is different. Kids are different. Like one kid you might have to whoop, one you might have to yell at, one you might have to choke, one you might have to shake the shit out of. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody is different in how they receive information. Like, for instance, with me, if it's come down to some work or some information, shut up, dog. I'm a hands-on person. You know what I'm saying? I'm a hands-on. See, Kirk, I mean, uh, you know what I'm saying? You gotta put your hands on Chuck for him to listen. You know what I'm saying? But um, I don't I I I recognize that everybody, each person is different. You know what I'm saying? So what what what might work, like you know, you know your son. You know what I'm saying? You know certain stuff he gonna do, certain stuff he ain't gonna do. You know what I'm saying? Somebody can't come to the house and say A, B, and C. Right, but then other people that we know, sons are killers. Right. You know what I'm saying? And we know that. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, you got to recognize like what's within your reach in your household. You know what I'm saying? So I can't shame Chuck for how he what he thinks manhood is. I can't shame you. At the end of the day, one thing that all people are gonna do, especially us, we have a will to survive. You know what I'm saying? And I hate when they put these blanket approaches out because now I can say, oh, well, you're wrong, you shouldn't do it this way. You don't know my situation. So how you go tell me there's no rule book or certain specific guidelines on how stuff's supposed to be. And then that backs down into a lot of issues that men have, you know what I'm saying, with us, because we're told not to cry. Oh, you a mother, you ain't supposed to cry. Right. You know what I'm saying? And blah, blah, blah. But on the flip side, I understand why. Because we're not allowed to be weak out here in this world. You know what I'm saying? Nobody ain't gonna give us no freebies, you know what I'm saying? And we got to understand. But did you just equate crying with weakness? No, no, people do. And that's why I said earlier, I have no problem with saying that I cry because I'm not weak, and I don't care if you think that I'm weak. But a lot of people do. But on the flip side of that, you got a little kid, a little toddler, or something like that, we're gonna be different. Because the mama gonna pick them up, oh come here, let me kiss you, let me hug you, and the man gonna be like, hey man, shut up all that crying. You alright, get back out there because we understand the importance of getting back up. Right. And we know nobody ain't gonna baby you. Once your mama gone, like, that's it. Nobody ain't gonna baby you or call you. So we're teaching you, hey, this is how you deal with A, B, and C. And I think one of the major issues was, especially with our young black men, we're we're really never taught how to deal with our emotions. You know what I'm saying? So because of that, a lot of it, it boils over and it turns into violence. You know what I'm saying? And people like to say, oh, they learned this and they watched this. No, no, no, no, no. I me personally, I think violence is one of those things that's built into us. Because you can have a little baby and you can take their bottle, they go do this, it's it's built into us. We have to be taught how to control it and how to maintain it. You know what I'm saying? So there's no there's no blanket approach, but society and our culture will tell you that it is. You know what I'm saying? 100%. How then do you think when the dad tells the kid, you know, that's crying to man up or or stop crying, then how do you think, or in y'all's experience, how is that shown up uh in your relationships with women when they expect you to be emotional, right, or vulnerable, or able to express your emotions when since you were yay high, you were told to man up. So that's that's a that's a double-sided sort of reason. You know what I mean? Don't do it. Because women will say, Oh, I want a man to talk to me and listen and tell me how he feels. And they're gonna weaponize it. They're gonna weaponize it. And I be weaponized, they're gonna use it against you. Or when a man does express himself, oh, you weak, you soft, you don't want to hear that. And a lot of times, like some of the stuff that I do, like I post on, so it's a method to my madness, though. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of topics, like I'll take and I'll flip the genders of them just to show you that you're a hypocrite. You know what I'm saying? Some people get it, but I'll show you that you're a hypocrite. On one saying, oh, men always shut down, they don't want to talk, but then once we express it, man, why y'all crying about that? Y'all weak. Like a chick did that. I put a post out, something about mental health. She's like, nobody don't want to hear all that. I'm like, you're part of the problem. So, two things you gotta understand too, though. I think a lot of times, and it's not even a separation between men and women, it's just the way that we deal with things logically. Women deal with things from an emotional standpoint. Men should be addressing things logically as a default, but this newer generation of males don't, to me, this is my personal opinion. They don't address things logically because they don't they haven't seen it in practice. Like, nobody ever told me, my father never had to sit me down and tell me, don't hit a woman. Um, I've never seen him put his hands on my mother. I've never seen my grandfather put, yeah. It's just like when I seen them get into arguments, or if I see a conversation with my mother yelling at my father, I don't see my father be like, all right, whatever. And keep it moving. All right. Well, I've seen my grandfather be like, all right, Lizzie, and just leave it like that. And she he never had to raise his voice and jump and do it. It just wasn't it just wasn't the way. And so I think sometimes we learn kinesthetically. He hit Lizzie. No, he didn't. I promise you didn't. So how many of them grandparents? They was on some of this. I think no, you know, he's like, Yeah, them old grandparents, all they do is speak. Yeah. All right, now Lizzie? All right, no, yeah. Hey, shey, okay. And but I I tell people this all the time, like, um, you are a sum total. Everybody is different. Because you're really just a sum total of how you have accepted or not accepted the things that you have experienced in your life up until that point. And since our experiences are different, how we respond to them, we can go through the same exact thing. And how we respond to them might be totally different. So it's not meaning that because this person went through this and he chinned it up and he was doing, you don't know what he went through. Chinna, like chin up, chest out. I know I've seen you looking, sir. Funny. But what I'm saying is like, we don't when it comes to men's mental health, I said don't say nothing to women because they weaponize it. Like, if when you're unequally yoked, you're dealing with a chick and it's not there, you're dealing with her trauma and your trauma together. Straight up. And the minute she can't effectively communicate her trauma to you in a way that's positive, it's gonna come out as venom. Mr. was finna jump off the bridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, you're gonna be all type of you're gonna be all type of niggas with adjectives when it goes south and they don't and they feel like they can't go wrong. So, and and and I've seen our males, just talking to our males, I've seen our males be really more emotionally motivated. I tell my daughters right now, do not talk to these young men that way. Because my daughters are headstrong. They they grew up in the house with a central male figure who ain't disappeared, ain't been gone, ain't statistically whatever. So they say, say what's on their mind. They're not scared to talk. And I tell them, hey, hey, whoa. I'm not saying you can't say, my youngest one, she challenged me all the time. I can say what I want. No, no, I'm not saying you can't say what you want. I'm just saying you gotta be mindful. Because that young man is gonna respond a certain way. And your dad's gonna have to do it. Based on his experience, based on his experience. He was raised, and I tell people this all the time, and and y'all can edit it, whatever. I call it the bitter baby mama syndrome, right? You have a lot of these young men who are being raised off of hate. Straight up. Oh, yeah. And depression. You don't say that before, so it'd be cool. Uh oh no, no, I'm just saying. Like, because you know, everybody was we have a lot of young men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. We have a lot of young men being raised off of hate. Because this relationship didn't work out, this is the product of a relationship that failed. Or you see the failed relationship in this young kid of a father that didn't do what you felt was 100%, he didn't claim a mother. It's just different things. Just like your dad. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's necessary to teach girls, you know, don't talk to them like that kind of um, I ain't gonna say the words. No, but there it is also necessary to teach boys to not. Did you see that clip with father? It's okay. But let me trip you out. And that's that's one of the things that Kevin Samuel said. Uh uh Heavenly Father kept him saying, No, I'm just saying. See, that's why he has to be a triple raggedy. No, no, no, but what he said was real. And he told a chick, he said, she kept being like disrespectful. He said, That's your problem. You don't know about respect. He said, Men, we know to respect each other because there's always a low-level threat of violence. So certain stuff, no matter what, certain stuff I know I can't say unless I'm ready to throw down. Yeah, being a man. You know what I'm saying? Women don't get that. You know what I'm saying? They might get it with another woman because they're raised that men ain't supposed to hit women. So that's why they can rah-rah rah and do all this other stuff and be in men's face and they think that it's okay and it's cool. And I'm not saying it's okay to hit a woman, but you have women that will hit men and still don't expect for a man to hit them back. Did you see that? But then if somebody says equal rights and equal left, then it's a problem. Oh, you beat women. No, that's not the case. And I always say, keep your hands to yourself for sure. You know what I'm saying? And you don't know, same thing, you don't know what that man went through. So you hitting him with violence and threats, and I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do that as a man, you know what I'm saying? I don't know the old head's name, but he be on the internet. He said, uh He said, nobody should, nobody should hit nobody. Women should keep their hands to themselves and men should keep their hands to themselves. But he said, if I tell you to shut the fuck up and start talking to me, is it wise for you to keep talking to me? I mean, keeping it real, like I'm at that point. But even but that's what I'm saying. Even the same thing as as a man, you know what I'm saying? If somebody tells me to shut the fuck up and stop talking and I'm or else, I'm not gonna shut up. But I'm also ready to throw down because I know the consequences. So I know if I keep saying this, it's gonna make him swing. And all I want you to do is touch me. Remember the Mike Tyson interview? He was talking with the interviewer, and the interviewer asked him about his daughter. And he said, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you you gotta go, right? You you know you gotta go. You know you can't be here. You know, you know why, right? Like Mike very calmly told him, he didn't threaten him, he didn't say anything, he just told me stay. He said, Are you crying? You're kind of emotional now. He said, Yeah, you gotta go. You know you can't be here, right? You understand, don't you? And he started taking the stuff off. Now that dude would have been asking for all type of death to stay in that situation, knowing how volatile and unstable Mike Tyson is in that, and especially when he's dealing with something that he hasn't readily controlled. But he had enough wherewithal to say, hey, you gotta go. And he said it very soft, very, but you see what that man did. He grabbed his stuff and packed the stuff. He was smart, hey man. He got up out of there, get up out of there because he heard Mike. This could go, this could go on left. This just went left, and I need to get out of here where I say, Yeah, you got to. Um uh I mean we kind of touched on it a little bit uh when we talked about, you know, uh sailing with the fellas and the crews and being together, but um how has um brotherhood or companionship or um you know just just friendship, like what has that meant in everybody's life? Like, and it's specifically friendship with other black men. I mean, for me personally, it means the world having somebody that I can relate to, somebody come from the same area that I came, from the same neighborhood, somebody that I can talk to, confide in, and like that's dope because I think it's needed. You know what I'm saying? That's another thing. A lot of these younger kids, they don't even have friends, bro. They don't have friends. They don't have like people like we've been friends since elementary school, high school. They don't have that. A lot of these kids homeschool or they've been moved that too, but I'm saying they don't I don't think they have the social skills. They don't that's that's a whole we had to talk to each other. That's a whole nother thing. Yeah, they have devices. That's how different devices the phone. They don't they don't even know how to communicate in person. I would say for me, um, it's been big. Um see amen. That's why I posted this shit. I said I can't I can't have a conversation. What if you're gonna do that? What did I say? What did I say snickering? Did you hear me say something? Did you hear me snicker? I said that earlier that ain't nobody. Let me continue. Let me continue. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm answering the mad question. How has it been? Yeah. And you said it meant the world to you, and we didn't know what you were talking about. So I explained it. And you said it was big, and I'm letting you finish talking. Why you got an attitude with me, bro? I didn't even say that. I have an attitude with me. Man, he can get you a half cut. You messed up an emotional moment for me, brother. My bad. I'm sorry. No, no, no, you got it. Go ahead. Go ahead. What up for? Shit. Bobby Shop. Go ahead, man. Go ahead. And this is why this is the thing. Go ahead, baby. Go ahead. Hey, um. Real tips. Something. Go ahead, brother. So um, everybody know, like, my time been like rough over the last couple months, but the friendship and like having shut up and having the friendship with uh. You play too much, though. He does. I never denied it. But he the main one, he the main one though that like he keeps the friendship going with his bullshit, but you know, he keeps it going. Like he'll start some shit, though. Like I can be going through something, though. And the nigga called me with some dumbass shit and ended a snap me out of what I'm going through, though. Um Kurt Kurt will call me occasionally, but Kurt called with business. Uh Kurt called, Kurt's gonna call, and he's gonna be clear with this conversation. That's you know, let me be clear. That's crazy. So we doing it. That's the conversation. Okay, okay. You know what? But this nigga will call, get off work. I'll be fucking around somewhere here in home and call and be like, hey dog, just want you to know I love you, dog. Take your ass back to sleep. I'm like, nigga, you woke a nigga up for that? You need that. Sometimes it's I say what? Huh? What I say? I'm gonna slap shit out of you that's what you say. Same thing. Um, you need that too, though. I mean, so I I would say like it's if you don't have a circle of people you can like talk to, dog, yeah. It gets real, real lonely. And I think that's what the younger people going through, though. They they engage. But you know what though? I had I had a so I don't know if y'all heard, it was a little young girl that committed suicide at CJ School about three weeks ago. So um, and I didn't know we just ride in the car, he told me. Like, I was I was going to meet Jason to give him his shirt. He all though he come. But anyway, um, so edit that out. Uh a week or two ago, that nigga. Put a nigga business out. Definitely edit that out. That man might have told his people he went. No, no. Oh, you're right. Ted it out. Um, so listen, but I was so CJ. CJ wanted to go for a walk around the corner. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. You want to go for a walk around the corner? I'm like, nah, let me let me walk with you. And we had a talk. Like, listen, bro, like, I know you're young, I don't know how you and your friends communicate, but just know you got a mother and a father, somebody you can talk to. You ever feeling like that? Like, it's okay. Dog, we talk for about maybe 30 minutes, right? And I said, hey, you know, say you got this little girlfriend. I said, I ain't trying to be funny and nothing. I said, but you may have 13, 14, 15 more girlfriends before you get married. I said, there's very few people that I know that's been together since high school, whatever the case may be. We talk, we talking about it. 30 minutes go by. We get in front of the hot nigga and say, Dad, I don't want 13, 14 girlfriends. I want this one. I said, man, go in the house, bro. You heard all the stuff I tell you to you about, man. All the stuff I tell you about, but I'm like, I'm just saying. You know what you want. You need to find that little girl, that little girlfriend take him through some. She already took him together. I told her that, but I said, ooh. So okay, look, so tell you this side. So, so don't let her mama hear that. So I bought him, no, I bought him, I bought him a car. I said, listen, me and your mom ain't been together since high school. You know what I'm saying? She has a physical. I said, we've been together 20 plus years, but anyway. So probably gave him a car. Gave him his car. Gave him his car. Bruh, he in and out of the door. We was young, you know, French car, in and out of the door. I'm like, what the hell he doing? He in the office, boom. So me and my wife are f watching nemesis. So it goes off. I said, I'm gonna go to bed. She said, she wouldn't go to bed too. Nah, let's go see what the nigga did to this car. This nigga done wrote on the rear view mirror. You close the mirror, the little girl name, and like like some kind of decoration. She took him down through there. So he's telling him you tend about her, you tend about her right now. Got a picture on the three, not a water sign, three by five on the windshield. Hey, pone. Say, bro. I said, bro, you I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. Take it to the boot camp. It's gonna be taken the bootcut. Get ready for the boot. But you're doing the right thing though. Right. I'm having a conversation with them, because I know how that junk can be. You be thinking, you be thinking crazy. I had to do the exact opposite because I got girls. So I had to act like stay away from people like you. Right. Nah, I had to act like I was I was cool and it can't and then it ain't gonna never end. Right. No. Because right then they get they're gonna get emotional. Right. I just had to make sure I was there when it was. And it was like you're older, he and um he at CCJ next year because he's early college. Right. So you're about to see just imagine a transition from all of us middle school to high school. Oh, that's a joke. You know what I'm saying? Now you talking about going from high school to college. You're gonna be at school with women. You know what I'm saying? That there's there's although you 16, 15. It's gonna make them forget about her. Correct. So I'm telling you, I had to have the same conversation with my nephew. Right, so I'm not serious, bro. Just imagine though, like for real, just think about it. From middle school to high school, dog, booty get bigger, they wear shorter skirts. I'm just I'm just I'm just saying. I told him that. I told him that. Because he, you know, he the he had an opportunity to go to school. He'd be like, I want to go to school, and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, me, you got a girlfriend. I'm like, I already know what time to say. I said, I know her time. I said, if she had in a sense, she would be encouraging you to go see it. And I told him, I said, You got a long life to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't let him wherever you go, you can't. You might feel like you're in love right now, but that might change in a couple of weeks. Just be prepared. I told her, I said, you're gonna meet new people first, different experiences, you're gonna first. I'm gonna tell you a quick story about somebody I knew. Uh nigga, had a child, dropped out of school, dropped, he was supposed to go to college on a scholarship. Didn't go to school, he said he got to take care of his child, went to work. Bro went to work, found out probably when the child was about 10 that it wasn't his children. I'm going to jail. One his child. I'm going to jail. I'm talking about he had scholarships from Florida. He he got scholarships from everywhere where he could have gone to school. I know this person too. Did he think it was his child? Ah, I ain't gonna do that. He thought he was gonna he was doing some. He got his name child that he he he could have been there though. It could have been him. He just dodged a bullet, but it should have been. I don't think it's a bullet dodge at the at that point. The child is 10. Okay, let's tell you, let's just do this then. In a situation like that, type of time. He got to name. How do you approach that as a therapist? How do you approach that? As a therapist or as a father? As a therapist, as a therapist. And then that guy coming to talk to you about that. And he's trying to unpack that. How do you how do you deal with that? Look, man, I just make sure that it's a safe space, one, right? So he can express freely, say what it is that he needs to say to get it off his chest. Um, and and really, you know, you know, look back and see what he could be accountable for in that situation, right? And he can't control the actions of others, he can only control how he responds to it. Right? And so to give him skills and tools to respond in the way that's most healthy for him, because some people would be in jail. Like JB said. Like JB said. Yeah. Hey man. Thank you for coming. Hey, we gotta hear your brother back, man. You gotta have your time. Talk about more. Not more. More. More. Is that a devil attacking your? Yes, you heard it. Yeah, yeah. I heard you, I heard you, I heard you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate y'all, boys. Appreciate you. Man, thank you for showing up, dog. Thank you for coming on the cruise. Thank you for celebrating JB. Thank you. Whatever, whatever reason you came back. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Kurt ain't gotta come back no more. But uh Kirk coming back, though. I hope he can't. We all come back and see what we all coming back. Kurt, good people. I think I heard him and told him I love him. I think I know you did. Nah, you ain't do that. No, I did. I thought you were in the shit out of it. He hung up over the arms or under the arms. I did. No, he he tried to go under the this is not where you come out. But listen, man, take us out here, JB. Nah. Some people say you use 100. No, no, you know what. Hey, man, listen, y'all know what it is. This is your boy, Bishop Petalaverde. Like I always always say, take care of yourself, take care of your business, and take care of your people. It's the humble messenger. Men don't always make the right decisions. They just have to own the decisions that they make. That's the bar. Thank you to all this Chuck. Thank y'all for listening. Hey, this big dame. This nigga took my thunder, man. I tell you to come in here and know. The thunder. Oh, my bad. Cracking the job. You still got the thunder. I got the forgiving. What? That's a rap, fellas. That's the rap. I'm taking my headphones off. Hey, take it out of here, man. Thank you for coming out. God bless you. Good night. Hey, hey, fool, bro. Thanks for listening to another episode of the Petty Lives Matter Podcast. Make sure you stay tuned with us and make sure you follow us on Instagram and Facebook at Petty Lives Matter Podcast.