Cocktails, Tangents and Answers
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Cocktails, Tangents and Answers
Integrated Marketing Campaigns
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The ROI of Integrated Marketing
Speaker 1What if I told you that integrated marketing campaigns can drive 25 to 100% higher ROI, improve efficiency by 31% and even boost annual revenue by nearly 10% compared to single channel efforts.
Speaker 2I'd believe you.
Speaker 1Well, we're going to break down what makes these campaigns work and how you can put the same strategies to work for your business.
Speaker 2All right, I think that's great, like integrated marketing campaigns. How do you create them and how do you make them drive results across channels, and why do you care? Why do you do it? Those are great things.
Speaker 1This has been like a buzzing topic in our agency. We've been talking about it a lot on the podcast. We've been talking about it a lot on the podcast.
Speaker 2We've been talking about it a lot with each other, so glad we're finally getting a podcast episode to fully cover it. Yep, so we're going to explore how you do that and you coordinate your messaging and strategy across multiple channels, like it used to be. You do TV, radio and print and whatnot, for whatever reasons. But it's a little bit different now with digital because you can actually, you know, go into a store and your location on your phone has logged that, maybe in Facebook, and we serve you a CTV ad later on and you feel creeped out about it 100%.
Speaker 1We're casting a much wider net comparatively to just throwing out a random search campaign or a one-off social campaign. It's more focused. Everything's working together towards one goal. So excited to cover more of the complexities of that, but our first complex cocktail. There you go. That we're going to share with you today is the Gin Blossom. So this is created by Julie Reiner in 2008. I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
Speaker 1Looks right For the opening menu of her Brooklyn Boy at the Clover Club. It's quickly become a modern classic. It's kind of a softer take on a martini. It pairs Plymouth gin with Bianco vermouth and a touch of apricot Eau de vie.
Speaker 2Eau de vie, oh, eau de vie. Okay, like eau de toilette.
Speaker 1Alright, I'm glad oh eau de vie Like eau de toilette. All right, I'm glad you could pronounce that, because I definitely couldn't.
Speaker 2And I looked up what that was. I took French in third grade.
Speaker 1Oh nice, and you still remember that from wow.
Speaker 2I remember stupid stuff from French in third grade.
Speaker 1Can you say it again, because I already forgot how to pronounce it. The apricot eau de vie is actually kind of like a. It's like an apricot liqueur, but it's based on this specific apricot that's grown in a specific place and it's more floral, so it's focused on like a bouquet of apricots. So think fancy floral apricot liqueur. So there we go.
Speaker 2All right. So one of my favorite gins because it's an easy drinker and not super piney and that's probably why it's in this drink is Plymouth gin. You need one and a half ounces of that. One and a half ounces of Martini Bianco Vermouth that's a lot of vermouth for a drink Like I put two dashes of orange bitters and an orange twist to garnish it. So throw all those into a mixing glass with ice and stir until well chilled. So that is common with martinis that you stir, you do not shake because you don't want to delete. Dilute them, shaken not stirred.
Speaker 2Except it should be stirred, not shaken. The shaken martini is lower class because you're going to water it down.
Speaker 1What is that originally from?
The Gin Blossom Cocktail Recipe
Speaker 2again James Bond, james Bond All right, yeah, so then you'll strain it into a chilled coupe glass and express the oils from an orange twist over the drink. That just means like basically bend the peel so the little oils will shoot out, and then garnish it with that uh twist. Um, this seems very light and delicious. Like that bianco vermouth is going to be much milder than a regular vermouth.
Speaker 1It's going to be very citrusy floral. It sounds very pleasant, like I definitely enjoy.
Speaker 2This is a good kind of warm end-to-summer drink, I think, so that one comes to us from Liquorcom and we do not have any music from the Gin Blossoms because we cannot pay for royalties and rights. So otherwise that would have been fantastic on this, but no, it's not happening. No budget for that, all right. So we're going to be back with Integrated, with integrated campaigns, and we will talk a little bit more about that. Ok, we are back and we are going to talk data and statistics. So I think I know you've got a whole bunch of stats, but I've got a great one to kick this off with oh, I'm going to quiz you again what percent of?
Speaker 1marketers. What percent of marketing teams lack an integrated digital strategy? It's got to be something high. I'm going to say 60%.
Speaker 2Close 70% and that is like I am like appalled, which is really wild, because multi-channel strategies are so important and I think the key there is they're lacking an integrated strategy. So they may be doing multi-channel but it's not necessarily all integrated, which is like why You're losing all the efficiency by having it not be integrated.
Speaker 1We're not playing Battleship, we're not just trying to hit one part of the board. We need to cast a wider net. So doing one-off campaigns like that is really inefficient. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, it blew me away. So my stat is kind of just a sneak peek of the success a company has had running an integrated campaign. When we think integrated campaigns, I honestly didn't think of this until, like, doing more research into all the different channels that they do as a part of this campaign. I'm not going to spoil it yet, I want to save it for later. But from running an integrated campaign're over, they're able to have to attribute over 400 million tiktok views in three days just from running this integrated campaign so, so that's good.
Speaker 2I think another good stat is when you use an integrated approach. Um, statistics show that you get a 50% higher return on your marketing investment than if you do a single channel, and I think that just makes sense, because we don't consume things in a single channel. Like I am not an, I only do digital audio and I never look at CTV and I never look at banner ads and I never look at Google. That's not how we live anymore, and no demographic is like that at all. We consume things multi-channel, sometimes multi-channel at the same time. Right, because, like, you're on Facebook but you're also watching TV. So it's really, really important. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1There's a reason it's called a marketing mix. Right, you need different things working together.
Speaker 2Yep, just like making a cake, you have to have a mix.
Shocking Stats on Marketing Integration
Speaker 1Yeah, so should we get into kind of like the nitty gritty of what an integrated campaign is? Sure Tell me.
Speaker 1So, as we've said continuously, it's integrated. Campaigns are marketing efforts where all channels work together towards a single goal or message. So you're not just running a campaign for this and a campaign for that. Campaigns are marketing efforts where all channels work together towards a single goal or message. So you're not just running a campaign for this and a campaign for that. It's all working towards one individual goal. Uh, this includes running ads with social, running ads for search, display, ctv, uh, digital out of home. I mean, the list goes on.
Speaker 2But you could do direct mail. You can integrate on demand direct mail into your campaigns. There's so many.
Speaker 1Like basically, yeah, it's everything campaign related and I kind of came up with a fun example for this, just like in case anyone's still struggling with like putting this together Okay, imagine a local coffee shop is launching a new seasonal drink campaign right, they'd run a paid like. They'd use paid channels like facebook or instagram to highlight the new drink, to get it out there. If they have a newsletter or like a rewards program, they'd have owned channel to be able to like you know, push out to which is more organic, and then just encouraging influencers or other customers that you know come in to share photos on instagram, on social, with like a hashtag. That's kind of like a more of like a small level, like local business, like view of it.
Speaker 2But it helps me kind of visualize yeah, and I think, like you can do it, you can take that even further. So you've got paid, earned and owned. So, like they could even do earned, they could invite um, they could send their their new drink to a local radio station and to the morning show and hope that they drink it you know, that'd be kind of an earned media.
Speaker 2They could do a press release about it, but I don't think that's going to get them much. Um, but some of that earned would be. You know your influencers can be earned, you know if it's like, hey, just come get a free drink and you don't ever ask him to do anything.
Speaker 1It's just like come try our new flavor yeah, today I visited, uh, this coffee shop and I tried their new seasonal drink, and there's probably a million of those videos every time.
Speaker 2As of yesterday, I'm a coffee shop influencer because I posted one post on facebook from a coffee shop.
Speaker 1So oh, there you go, yeah there we, there we go.
Speaker 2But, yeah, so it's, and I think that that's the interesting thing, right Is that people think of like an integrated campaign as like, okay, it's Google and Facebook and retargeting and banner ads and native and CTV and audio, and, yes, that can be all of it. It's true, you don't need all those channels no-transcript.
Speaker 1It's kind of like you're like it's all working. It's a wide angle working towards a single point, and that point is your goal that you're trying to accomplish.
Building a Successful Integrated Campaign
Speaker 2Yep, and each channel is doing like its best is being used in the best way possible, right? So, like you might have an Instagram reel that is, a video of making the drink. You know that kind of thing. Um, you may have. Um, I just thought of another one and now I can't think of it. Um, in the oh, like, if you're doing on demand direct mail or even your e-newsletter, you may send out a coupon to your best customers to come try it. You know those kinds of things. Or give your influencers, like, a free drink, like I said. So each channel can be different. You may also take people who've lapsed on your email list and send them an on-demand postcard. That's my favorite one. It's like or they opted out, like you opted out, that's great, I can still hit you in the US mail. So I'm going to do that. I got your address and I can still hit you in the US mail.
Speaker 2So I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1I got your address, and we talked about that in a recent episode too.
Speaker 2We did, yeah, so you can go back and find that On-demand direct mail can be really cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's cool, honestly, to me, like thinking of an integrated campaign. It's really cool, like all the different pieces, right, because each individual piece is like different and working towards towards the same goal. Like we said, I feel like I'm saying the same thing over and over again. But honestly, it's just really cool when you're building something that works well with different strategies.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I look at it as the one thing that you do have to do is you have to get above the campaign and figure out what is that core message that you're trying to get people to do, who do you want to reach and what do you want them to do with that message? And then what are your proof points to get them to do that. And when you have all of that it's typically called a creative brief you can then start rolling out these different pieces of creative that work really hard in their own medium but that are all tied to that central message and that central goal of accomplishing things. So I think one of the things I think of also is because we use HubSpot a lot. We talk about HubSpot a lot. I know people are like, oh God, he's going to bring up HubSpot. Maybe I don't know, but like HubSpot's campaigns tool puts all of that in one place so you can actually look and see what assets are performing better, which things are getting more clicks, which things are getting more. You know contact form fills or whatever your goal is for conversions.
Speaker 2Curious to see it inbound, like where this is going, because it just happened like it just came out last year, but content remix, which uses hubspot's ai, where you can quite literally take one piece of content and have it create other pieces for you, um, and so that is another way to look at this. It's almost like you find a core piece of content that is your brief, and then you want to have it like create the landing page and the marketing email. And then you want to have it like create the landing page and the marketing email and whatever you want out of it, and so AI can help you like get that started and help you ideate on that. It doesn't always do a great job with the imagery, so we'll see if there's any advancement in that, but it's a really cool way to get that integration without a heavy lift on. You know everything you need to do.
Speaker 1So not only do you have a bunch of things working together, you also get to see all those things in the same place and how they're doing, and if you need to plug in something and replace something, I don't know. It's just super cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, and there's what's interesting and this came up with a client recently um, view through conversions are a thing, so a conversion generally happens because they converted on that piece of content, they clicked or whatever you wanted them to do. Um, a view through conversion means that that content, that piece of content, was put in front of them or that ad was put in front of them, but they did not put in front of them, but they did not click it, but they converted on something different later and so you can actually see that. And what I love about it is you can see which content is assisting your top performing content. So you actually get that view of how everything is working harder together with those view through conversions or a secondary conversion event or those kinds of things, and I kind of geek out about that. It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1There's a lot to geek out with integrated campaigns.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1Should we get into the campaign? I've been making a secret.
Speaker 2Yeah, like, and it drove to TikTok. So I'm like this isn't one of ours, because we don't generally drive people to TikTok.
Speaker 1We don't have 400 million views on TikTok With B2B generally drive people.
Spotify Wrapped: Ultimate Integrated Campaign
Speaker 2we don't have 400 million views on tiktok with b2b, yeah, and we don't have that many views on any client tiktok account. So, yeah, what's going on? What's it? What is it?
Speaker 1so I didn't think of this as an integrated campaign because it didn't really like click in my mind that there's so many different pieces that are part of it. But, um, spotify wrapped is probably one of the biggest integrated campaigns I can think of what, yeah, so, okay, think about their consistency, right, so it comes out every year. You see it in the app, so you're getting served it in their like, owned channel. They also have emails that you get. You get text notifications. Then they also run ads and they get news releases, like press releases cover it. It's a big deal. Um, then, the biggest thing, right? So let me just go through some of these numbers, because I thought they were pretty insane. So, wrapped access so people who had access to spotify wrapped grew from 30 million users in 2017 to over 120 million in 2021, and now it's like four years yeah, in four years the 120, and then from 2021 to 2022, when it really started blowing up, they grew from 120 million to 156 million.
Speaker 1So that's a lot. In 2024. Spotify rap generated approximately 2.1 social media mentions within just 48 hours 2.1 per person or 2.1 million.
Speaker 22.1 million mentions total oh okay, you missed the million on that first one there.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, so 2.1 social media mentions within just 48 hours of it launching in 2024, which is insane. And then over 400 million TikTok views in three days and this is a crazy thing. That I think is like the craziest part about Spotify wrapped is it basically turned 10.5 million users into brand ambassadors, because that's how many people shared their Spotify wrapped results like on their social.
Speaker 2We shared our agency Spotify wrapped in a reel. I think I'm pretty sure we do that every year we make. We did a blog post one year about it because, yeah, it's always fun because our music can be controlled by anybody anybody in the office. I mean, you can't because you're remote and I can't. I mean I can technically because I have the login. I could send you the login and you could change all their stuff.
Speaker 1Just start making playlists, yep.
Speaker 2But anyone in the office can adjust the music and you kind of have to tolerate it for a little bit. But if it's really offending you or you really hate it and you can't work, then you can change it. So seeing kind of where that shifts, like how does Caitlin's Taylor Swift fangirl influence like hit, you know there? Or how do the older folks in the office who love like 80s, 90s and grew up on that deal with like how does that compare to some of the younger influence in the audience for people who like country, etc. Because our spotify rep is always like a hot mess of a mix of stuff that is wild and I mean it's increased their downloads in 2020, like early 2020.
Speaker 1So this was even a little before it like truly went viral. They attributed like a 21% increase in downloads just in that month from Spotify Wrapped, and an earnings summary in 2024 noted that over 245 million users engaged with Wrapped like from start to finish. So it was a record-breaking year in 2024 and I just think it's a really good example of how you're using like a lot of different channels to kind of accomplish the goal of increasing engagement on the app and downloads, because they have a lot of social ads, they have email, they have, you know, a little bit of everything, and I didn't really think about it that way, but but yeah.
Speaker 2It's an awareness campaign, a hundred percent Like. It is a giant awareness campaign for them, probably the biggest one that they do. It's also funny because, like Apple Music now will do kind of your year in review or something. It's not the same, but it's sort of like hey, like we should do this too.
Speaker 1And people share those too, Like the people who swear by Apple Music. I still definitely see them share those.
Speaker 2Yeah, I do Apple Music more because I know they pay artists more.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2So I mean, per song payments in streaming is really tiny anyway, especially for indie artists. But when you look at all the streaming services, apple's one of the top of um of that. I mean they have billions of dollars, so why not give it to artists? And, you know, build your thing. Um seems perfect to me, so cool. Yeah, I don't have anything else in integrated campaigns except, like you should do them. If you're not, if you're in that 70, who? Who aren't doing it? Oh my God, like, coordinate it, like, please, please, please. Make a coordinated effort.
Speaker 1Build out a good funnel yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2I mean, I think that's a good thought is all you have to do to like, I guess, maybe. How do you create an integrated campaign? You know, aside from like, have a brief, create your content. How do you figure out what content to do? And I think you use the sort of top, middle, bottom of the funnel, or your customer journey and different stages of your customer journey. You can go either way. However you want to look at it and you look at where your customer is at each stage of the journey and how they're researching, how they're consuming media, and you create content for your message across that journey in the right medium for the right stage, and then build it out like yeah it really is as simple as where are they and how you, how do you best reach them?
Speaker 2and then having as much content as you're able to, um, and as many channels as you're able to budget-wise and whatnot across those pieces.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I mean, I think we covered it pretty well.
Speaker 1It's pretty simple, but when you really hear the numbers behind it, like that pushes you forward more than anything.
Speaker 2I mean, I keep looking at this stat and I'm like there's another one that 64% of marketers believe that their MarTech stack, so the technologies that they're using for marketing is too complicated and confusing. And I'm like, okay, and that's where HubSpot comes along as sort of that integrated solution, which is why we like it. But yeah, if it's difficult, you're not going to do it, so let's just make it easy. It's so easy, all right, we'll have a new episode next week. I have no idea what it is, unless Zach knows, because it is not in my show notes, so we'll be here, though it's going to be a good one.
Speaker 1Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2Zach has no idea which one it will be, but he's going to tell you it's going to be a good one and I'm sure it will. All right, bring us home.
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