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And I'm lucky to"},{"speaker":"Meghan Smallwood","startTime":1605.76,"endTime":1607.38,"body":"have you as a resource as well."},{"speaker":"Meghan Smallwood","startTime":1605.76,"endTime":1607.38,"body":"So..."},{"speaker":"Sarah Hammond","startTime":1607.38,"endTime":1607.41,"body":"Aww..."},{"speaker":"Meghan Smallwood","startTime":1607.47,"endTime":1609.21,"body":"Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Meghan Smallwood","startTime":1607.47,"endTime":1609.21,"body":"joining us and sharing"},{"speaker":"Meghan Smallwood","startTime":1609.21,"endTime":1609.81,"body":"everything."},{"speaker":"Sarah Hammond","startTime":1610.02,"endTime":1612.06,"body":"Thank you, I"},{"speaker":"Sarah Hammond","startTime":1610.02,"endTime":1612.06,"body":"really appreciate being able to"},{"speaker":"Sarah Hammond","startTime":1612.06,"endTime":1615.45,"body":"take the time to talk to you"},{"speaker":"Sarah Hammond","startTime":1612.06,"endTime":1615.45,"body":"guys. 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