Dresses but also Deodorant, Caviar, and 6-7

The kind of week where you fix a broken deodorant with sheer will, crawl back onto the Peloton, and somehow end up at a house party with caviar pie and pigs in blankets is exactly our tempo. We’re juggling four-kid calendars, long drives to the wrong gym, and those quiet late-night moments when a red eye and a to-do list won’t quit—and we still manage to squeeze in a laugh (or ten).

We dive into everyday myths and trends that shape our lives more than we admit. SPF isn’t “hours of protection,” no matter what your sister says. A Florida baby named "Six Seven" sparks a real talk about names, identity, and how choices age. The Bears-Packers game delivers a live lesson in sportsmanship for our kids, reminding us that community often shows up when the score doesn’t. Then it’s style time: poet core gets a vote, turtlenecks earn side-eye, loafers get love, and the universal joy of dresses with pockets becomes nonnegotiable. We share fit hacks—adjustable straps for uneven shoulders—and that electric nostalgia of wedding and communion dresses, petticoats and all.

Work culture is changing too. After-work happy hour is fading as hybrid schedules and sober curiosity rise, but mentorship and camaraderie don’t have to disappear. We talk better replacements—mocktails, coffee walks, bite-size gatherings that build trust without pressure. And yes, we go full foodie: Noma’s $1,500 LA pop-up and its free table for young hospitality pros, plus our own kitchen courage, trying a classic caviar pie and admitting what we liked. It’s comfort, curiosity, and a little chaos stitched together by humor, heart, and dresses that let us breathe.

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Transcript

Welcome, Life Load, And Peloton Return

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Hi, thanks for joining us today. It's Nora. We're sure glad you're here today.

SPEAKER_04 0:12

Yeah, welcome, one and all. How are you? I'm fine. Fine. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

Good.

SPEAKER_04 0:19

Okay. I just feel busy. Because we are. You are. Because we are moms of four children involved in a million activities. They really are. And then we have our own stuff.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

True. True, true, true. Yeah.

The Great Deodorant Collapse

SPEAKER_04 0:34

Where I feel like, I got this. Like if I get a lot done and then I think about it, I'm like, oh, even there's all this other stuff. I know. I'm always like a day like no, two steps forward, one step back. Yeah. Yeah. As Paula Abdul famously said, two steps forward. Take two steps back. Opposites attract. Oh. We can't. You don't know that song? I don't know, but I did take a good 80s Peloton ride. Ooh. Ooh, I like a good theme Peloton ride. I'm back on the Peloton. Welcome back. Thanks. You're welcome. Slowly but surely. It's all right. But I'm taking my sweet time getting back to where I was. But part of my whole red eye thing as I was trying to self-diagnose and self-prescribe solutions, I was like, maybe it's because I haven't exercised. That could be. But so far, no change. We'll see. But it has been nice to be back on Peloton. They're very supportive. They are those people. I missed them. They're seeing such kind things.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

They do, yeah. I think that's part of their gig. They're gig. I know. But I buy him.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

I oh, I totally buy it.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

I'm like, yeah, you're right. Let go of all the what's not serving me. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I'm back. Yeah. Like they're like, oh come on, run in. I have a something too. So I'm half proud of myself and half grossed out. Yeah, I've been waiting for them. Speaking of like busy. So normally I have a deodorant and then a backup. And then when I'm finished with the deodorant, the backup goes into play. And then I buy it a new one so that I've got a system. The other day, you know, like when it breaks and it like crumbles and you market and you're like, ah there has to be a bet. We need to talk to the manufacturer because there's be like a line or like a warning. Or like do not crank anymore. Yes, like have it be like a fog horn, like running. So it like all crumbled, and I had like caught it in my shirt, and then it kind of like shuck it out onto the sink. And then I I go into my drawers to find my backup, and I was like, there is no backup. I looked every like in my overnight little toiletry bags.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

I was like, what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_04 2:44

So you don't believe what I'm saying is like you scoop it out of the I put it.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

I like wound down the deodorant thing, stuck the hung pieces back in like a jigsaw puzzle, and then just kind of like pressed it into my armpit to like mold it back in there.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

I gotta get it working two days, yes.

SPEAKER_04 3:12

Didn't the pieces crumble off? No, so I I pressed them. How did you lodge them in there? You pressed them in there pretty good. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

I might have taken a different approach. I might have taken the the hump. Oh, the hunk, like a single crumb.

SPEAKER_04 3:27

Like a single-use deodorant. Oh, yeah. I was just like, this is a low, like a low point. This is so gross. But I was like, what's worse? Not wearing deodorant. Or not and if those crumbles were in the tube originally, they're fine. Like they fell into like onto the countertop. But I was like, this is so gross.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

I didn't know that happened to other people. Really? That like crumble situation. That's where you're like, yeah. Yeah, that's not good. You're listening, Johnson and Johnson.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

Right? Come on, or dove, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:00

But uh, I got a new one today. Okay. So that was a treat.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

But I also feel like I got my money's worth.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Do you just use a solid stick?

SPEAKER_03 4:08

I do.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

I do too.

SPEAKER_04 4:09

I use a degree 72 hour. I mean, I use it every day. I don't use it every 72 hours.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

My sister thought that SPF on sunscreen was how long, how many hours it lasted.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

When you told her that last week, was she shocked?

SPEAKER_03 4:29

It's very recent. She learned this. Oh, yeah. Because Al was around. She was like, Oh, you're gonna put 50 on, it'll be good for the whole day. And I was like, what? She's like, well, it's like 50 hours. And I was like, no. He's like, you're telling me to put this on today, could you good for four days? He's like, that is not how it worked.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

So that was like, it's so great. Yeah, because how often do you talk about what SPF stands for?

SPF Myths And Baby Name Shockers

SPEAKER_04 4:58

Right. I don't really know what it stands for. I just know that like it means how strong it is. It's the screen per function. Oh, I know that it's like no, I was like, screen per function? That doesn't make any sense. Hey. But I was like, I was buying it because I don't know a better answer. I just know that it means how much protection you're getting. Maybe it's the sunproof function. The sunproof proof factor. Yeah, the sunproof. I don't, I'm not even gonna look it up. That's what it is. Sunproof factor.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Two days, you're good to buy yourself some 50.

SPEAKER_04 5:28

Hey, okay. No wonder we had so much sunburned. That's so funny. Thinking speaking of numbers, I was reading a story about a Florida family. Oh boy, who named their child six? Yeah. Did you see that? No. Born on January 6th, name a son named 67.

unknown 5:49

Why?

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Why? Written out, like six is the first name, seven is the second. I was like, there's no way this is right. So I fact checked it, and sure enough.

SPEAKER_03 5:59

Why?

SPEAKER_04 6:00

Why? You can't even go by like you're not gonna call him like SS. There's no good. You can't call him like six-y. SS And also there isn't it like at sixes and sevens, like is uh an expression for like you're like at disagreement, like you're at odds. Oh, I didn't know like so. That's also like not a great and also like with speech seven is like a little boy has a list. Yeah.

unknown 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

And they're six seven. Yeah. And it's all just like, oh man, that's not okay. Well, that's when you're well, I guess then you could what are you gonna say is the nurse? Like, oof. Sorry that name's. They needed Alexi Januli.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

Secretary of State.

SPEAKER_04 6:46

That was close. I'm not gonna try it. I think that's 100% right. The handsome, hilarious Secretary of State. He really is. I'm so sorry for that little boy. Maybe they'll change their mind. But that's always, I mean, no matter who you are, you at some point in your life, someone's like, Oh, who are you name? Are you named after someone? Like, what does your name mean? Like, that comes up at some point in your life. And this poor child is gonna have to say, Well, back in 2025, it was a trend. It was brain rot. Yeah. Also, where were these people's pants? Oh, if you're not. You imagine if Noreen Ryan heard that your son's name was 6'7. 6'7 Daylor. 6'7 Daylor. If you were a choreographer and you wanted to name your child 567. Or if you had four kids and you're like, these are my children. 567. No. No, it also reminds me of the Umbrella Academy. He named the children numbers. Shouldn't do that. No. Shouldn't do that. Did you watch the Bears game? I did. I watched the Packers Game. Oh, I'm sorry. It actually turns out to be a nice night because we originally had basketball. Oh, that's right. And uh didn't that cancel? No, but we drove up there and we were at the wrong holy family. Oh. I drove with a friend, which was so nice for her to drive when we got there and our team was there and it was in game changer wrong. It was about 45 minutes away, which is a whole nother discussion because it's B team basketball for school. Yeah, so when we came back. So everyone went to the wrong school, the whole team. Yeah. Well, that's I thought you meant you just went to the school.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

No, no, no, no, no. So when we came up. Yeah, we came home and I brought a couple girls home with me. And then Ryan was home watching the game. And then we had friends show up unexpectedly. Which is always so fun. It's fun. And I had myself a good old time. I mean, aside from the ending.

unknown 8:51

I know.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

But wow, it turned into like it was a crazy game. Yeah, when you I love when you have like low expectations of a night.

SPEAKER_03 8:59

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 9:00

And it was such a high. Yeah. It was bananas. Yeah. Because at first you're like, this is embarrassing. Like, no matter who you're rooting for, like the bears stunk. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, like the tide turned, and you're like, no, they couldn't. No, they're gonna win. What?

SPEAKER_03 9:15

No.

SPEAKER_04 9:16

I was happy for the Bears fans that were there because that's so funny. I hate when they show the sad fans in the crowd.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

I'm like, don't and I was happy that Ryan was able to give our kids a master class in sportsmanship because they were really good sports about it. Like the Packers didn't play well, they didn't deserve to win. They blew that lead.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

But Ryan is very level-headed that way.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

Yeah, but I I am sad because I think it would have been fun for my kids because they're always met with such adversity when it comes to joining for the Packers. Yeah. But I'm excited for the city of Chicago.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

Yeah, it's fun. We were saying that to Kevin because he's a Giants fan and he was like, I don't know who I'm gonna root for. And I was like, dude, I'm a Bears fan. Can you just do me a solid and root for the same team? We had friends over who are Lions fans. Oh very involved in the game.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

And I couldn't figure out why he was cheering so hard for the Packers. So we're in the same division. Oh what? It's like that's how because I dislike the Bears a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Okay. Which I am like whatever. Do you do you?

SPEAKER_04 10:21

Yeah. Have you seen the new fashion for this? You know that there's always a core.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Oh yeah. Are we grandma core?

Bears-Packers Rollercoaster And Sportsmanship

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Poet core? Poet. Poet core.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Like get out your beret?

SPEAKER_04 10:33

Not quite berets, but I'm kind of I'm kind of in. It's like you are. I'm in. It's blazers, loafers, blouses. Look how cute Julia Roberts looks. She looks darling. Yes. A satchel oversized turtlenecks. No way. Is it?

SPEAKER_02 10:54

I can barely do a mock.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

This is more fall to me.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

I can barely do a mock turtleneck.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

That's what I'm rocking today. Yeah. Sorry. You're looking at just disdain. Because I feel like I'm getting strangled. Look at these shoes. How cute they're. Okay, those are cute. Yeah, yeah. So cute loafers, like wool coats. Oh my god. Speaking of wool coats, I was I took Elle to the mall on Sunday. We were just gonna do a couple returns. And I had black pants and heels on because I was coming from church, and then I grabbed a like wool peacoat. And she's like, What is that? I was like, I don't know, that's my coat. And she's like, You look like she kind of paused. An old man at a workplace.

unknown 11:38

I was like, what?

SPEAKER_02 11:40

She's like, I don't know if that's exactly what I want to say, but I'm going somewhere like that. I was like, I'll be right back. And it came out and pop her jacket.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

It's like, yeah. Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

Yeah, this looks like winter. This looks fall winter. In fall, winter. So it was like, I don't know, poet core, but that's just like, I don't know, normal, whatever. But I'm I'm on board with it. You are? This is few, a few, you know, few and far between where I am in it. But I'm better be on board with this than some of the other things we've brought up. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Hey, you know what I was reading that I was really surprised about that happy hour is becoming a thing of the past. Really? And it's due to the shift in people working from different spaces. The shift from in the workplace to home to hybrid. And a whole generation of sober curious people and just a group that says, why would I spend my time working and not getting paid? Or oh, like with work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Yeah, I should sorry, I should clarify happy hour after work, not happy hour with friends.

SPEAKER_04 12:56

Oh, okay. That's a different thing. Like go grab a beer after work that is like yeah, becoming a thing of the past.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

They called it a casualty of a corporate reset.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

I feel like though, I mean, there's benefits of that to seeing like the people you worked with outside of work to get to know them better.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

I think it builds community.

SPEAKER_04 13:17

Yeah. Because I I think less drinking is good and healthy and smart and in the long run better for everybody's, you know, health and mental state, probably. Probably. Especially with people you're working with, but the social element of it is would be a shame. I know. Especially if you're young and in your 20s and you're just getting started. It's good networking too. And also kind of, I feel like finding almost how like when you were pregnant or had babies and you would talk to other moms and be like, oh, that's normal, or oh, your baby does that too, or how did you put them to sleep, or what products together, what things to try. Where if you're, you know, just out of college and you have your first job, that's a good opportunity to be like, oh, your boss does that too, or oh, you have to do that. Okay, how did you handle that? Just like having your people. I know, yeah. I think it builds community, like it's good for networking. I think there's a lot of benefits to it. So yeah, it doesn't have to be like getting bombed.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

I was thinking the same thing. You don't have to get it. Yeah, but you're cool.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

You could have there's so many mock tails now. There are a lot of mocktails now. Have a snack. Oh, a treat.

unknown 14:28

Yeah.

Poet Core, Coats, And Loafers

SPEAKER_04 14:28

Little treat. Light bites. Yeah. So don't take don't do your light bites at Noma in LA. Why? Did your sister happen to go there by any chance when she was in Denmark? It's called NOMA. Oh, wait, I've heard of this place. What is what's going on? A lot.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

It's a pop-up version of the Copenhagen restaurant voted the best restaurant in the world four times over. What? And they've opened an all-inclusive NOMA temporarily in Los Angeles with a fixed price. It's$1,500.

SPEAKER_04 15:03

Oh, shut up. Per person.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

And he says it's the cost of importing 130 staffers and families and paying for their housing and transportation and schooling if necessary.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

And then it's also Oh, because they didn't hire local people. They brought Danish people. Yep. And he says big experiences is their profit.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Not necessarily money. He wants people to come an experience, like have it be a big experience.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Um, they only have 42 seats and they're open four days a week. But here's what I love best, and here's what made me talk about this right after happy hour is there's one table reserved each seating for young professionals to eat free of charge.

SPEAKER_04 15:54

Isn't that nice? Oh, so you could show up and hope to be Yeah, I don't know how you get that seat, but holy cow, it made me want to try this place. Yeah, is it sushi primarily or there is a kelp or like a seaweed pie. The problem is there remember Nomar Garcio Pera on the Red Sox? Well, they always used to do this really funny skit on SNL where it's all these Massachusetts people, and you'd be like, Noma! Noma! So I just keep thinking of Nomar Garcio Pera, not the restaurant. And I know that's way less classy than what this actually is. They don't tell us what the No, they don't. And I have to go back to my article. Oh, so it's not only young people, but people who work within the restaurant or hospitality industry in SA. So you have to apply. That's so cool. And so it's like an application. Well, I don't know. Okay, so they definitely have asparagus. They have fish on aloe leaves. They have figs.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Figs.

SPEAKER_04 17:05

I love I love$1,500 figs. Figs. You can't have a cheap fig. No way. It's fig and expensive. It does not tell you the menu.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

It immerses itself in local floral fauna and culinary cultures to create a tasting menu that speaks not just to the restaurant's style, but is also an expression of the place the restaurant is taking up residency in. And the city of Angels is a place Noma has long wanted to set down roots.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

It says the market is overflowing with produce, a place where you can have tacos for breakfast and a Thai tasting menu and an alleyway for dinner.

The End Of After-Work Happy Hour

SPEAKER_04 17:44

So who knows? This looks like chopped up cactus. Yes, yes. And that's the figs. Because then I was. And that looks like prickly pear, the prickly pear. Oh. Because then in the next picture, I was like, that was the before picture. Yep. He's looking off because he's like, I'm gonna chop up these cactus. Reservations will be released on January the 26th at 9 a.m. You want to get a reservation? Uh are you gonna pay? Then my I guess my kids can't go to school anymore. We'll just we'll go to Noma. If anybody would like to sponsor two Nora's and a Noma. Oh, Nora's a Noma. Maybe we can get that table. Well, where are we in the hospitality business? Kinda. We would talk about it. We'd be really funny. It would really help. I don't know if funny is what they're looking for, but if they are. We'd be very sophisticated. Oh, here we go. Here's some food. Just don't tell them you don't like a dip. Don't tell them you don't like dips or condiments or flavor. No, I love everything. I'm a super adventurous eater.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

I love it.

unknown 18:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

We went to a friend's house for the bears game, which was really nice. And one of the other guests made a caviar pie. Did you eat it? What a what a crazy psychopathic eater I am. And I was like, oh God, I've never had caviar before because it scares me. And I was like, oh my god. And then she's like, I was like, Was you looking at it? And it was looking at you. What else is it? And I was like, I knew it was she, it was it was beautifully presented and very, very nice. She's like, oh, it's like a thing from the 80s, and da da da. I was like, I bet it's really good.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Was it really caviar?

SPEAKER_04 19:22

Yeah. And it, but it was when I tell you the ingredients, it doesn't sound great. Did you try it? I did, and it was good. It was good. It was good. Did you have more? I had two bites.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Oh, you did? I did. Yes. Two bites. It was so good egg. Two bites.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

I ended up having a headache and feeling really sick, so I had to leave. Because it did? No, no, no, no. I think it's eye related. But anyways, but it was hard boiled eggs chopped up, a layer of shallots, and then something else, and then caviar. And I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm gonna eat this. You just had two to be blind. Yeah, I I was like, I can't uh try this. And it was good. Good. It was good. It was on like a townhouse cracker, which also was very good. But Alan and I were laughing because the yeast people brought caviar pie and we brought pigs and blankets. Who cares? I bought the pigs and blankets flew. Anyways, but it was very nice. Should we check in with our sponsors? Hey, Nora. Hey. You know what? I think this gray weather for the winter's got me down. Like I maybe I need some vitamin D. No, you don't need vitamin D, Nora. You need vitamins G M C. Oh my gosh, I think you're right. That'll knock those winter blues right out. Tell me more. Well, it's easy.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

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SPEAKER_04 20:55

Oh my gosh, that sounds like exactly what I need. You need a new car, you need your car serviced. They'll meet all your needs. That's amazing. And if you don't want to take a drive down there, you can go to their website, Haggertycars.com. Oh, that sounds so refreshing and already makes me feel warm inside. I'm here for you, Nora. Thanks, Nora. And now back to the show. We 100% did. We'll all talk about we're back. Back and we're ready, but you didn't miss anything good, I promise. We're talking about dresses. Yeah, we are talking about dresses.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

I love a dress.

Noma’s $1,500 Pop-Up And Free Seats

SPEAKER_04 21:39

I love a dress like you love a sweater. Yes. Totally. What about a sweater dress? No baby. No, as long as it has a turtleneck on it. No. Oh man, I take a dress every single time. Long dress, a short dress, a sleeveless dress. I'm partial to a long dress. You are partial to long, and I am partial to short. Do you remember that? Well, I don't think we're just. Oh, when we have the same dress in the distance. Did we wear them together? I don't think we did. I think you wore the short one and I was dying laughing because the short one was adorable. It was short and like a spaghetti strap and also extremely low neck. Sweetheart neck, or it was it V-neck. It's I can't wear it because it's so low cut. And I bought the grandma version that had like a straight across, thick straps, like super long.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Your straps are cute because I think they were a rick rack.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

They were rick rack. Yeah, or are. They're cute straps. Because sometimes short dresses are too short on me and then it's inappropriate. Well, I think my dress is borderly inappropriate. I don't think so. We should wear this look to our next event. Do the the long and the short version and just see if anybody and be like, what?

SPEAKER_02 22:48

No, they're totally different. I saw a funny meme the other day that was like, I dare you to find a girl that you compliment on their dress and they don't tell you it has pockets.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

Does it matter? If like somebody's like, oh cute dress, and you're like, oh, thanks for those pockets. It has pockets. That is such an icing on the cake. That's true. Where do all the dressmakers out there who listen to our podcast? Pockets. Yeah, Jolie, a dress boutique, order dresses with pockets. Yes. Yes. She probably knows that's a hit. She doesn't need advice from us. She's chilling. She is. But yeah, I love pockets. And also with my, I have a crooked spine. Oh, that's so I really like sundresses that have the adjustable straps. I do too. Because then I'm straightcause my shoulders are because my one shoulder is higher than the other. So that is a good thing for me. You can adjust accordingly. That's why I also like like a halter top drack dress. A halter. Like a like a dress that the straps go around the neck. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes. That or strapless because I don't have to worry about it not fitting my shoulders. Strapless, I'm always lifting. Worry about that. Sometimes with a strapless dress, I'll just wear a normal bra and then like a sweater over it. Oh, I've never thought to do that. I don't feel like wearing a strapless dress. A just bra. Yeah. I see because I'm peeking at your notes. We wrote down wedding dresses immediately. That was my first one. That nothing was better than trying on wedding dresses. Nothing is better than the fact that you cut your wedding dress. Oh my God, I know. That was crazy. I wish I had like camera footage of that. Was your mom mad? No, I think she could tell I was like worked up about it. And she was like, okay, all right. Like, we cut some out. Because I was kind of- Did you have any freak out moments when you were engaged? Bridal freak out?

SPEAKER_02 24:37

No, the only freak out I had was on the day of my wedding. I turned bright red.

unknown 24:41

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Because I accidentally took one of my dad's heart pills instead of an Allegra D. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

And we went out for a run, and I was like, I'm getting kind of hot and getting kind of red.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

My dad's like getting the shower. Oh. My mom was getting her hair done. And then I was red from head to toe. He was like, maybe get in the bath. And he threw me like one of those tiny bars of soap. And I mean, my parents saw parts of my body they probably haven't seen since I was in kindergarten.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

But I did this.

SPEAKER_04 25:10

Yeah, but I put it, it I loved my dress. It was beautiful and definitely not what I thought I was gonna end up wearing when I started trying dresses on. But it came to my house, my parents' house, and it was huge. It was just so puffy. And knowing that I had a Catholic ceremony, I'm like, I can't kneel down in this. Like there will be no room for Al, the kneeler. Like he's gonna have to go somewhere else. My mom's like, that's you're exaggerating. So yeah, me and my mom and my sister like held it up and just cut layers of tool out of this designer dress.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

What's it called? Your petticoat? Is that what it's called underneath?

SPEAKER_04 25:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

I forgot to put mine on. Oh, mine is purpose. No. Oh, okay. With all the stress of the redness.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Yeah, I wore my mom's dress to a ceremony. So cool. And we kind of killed it. We cut the sleeves off it and it had kind of like a back collar that we had to remove, but it turned out perfectly exactly how I wanted it. That's really neat. Especially with the all the fluff underneath. Yeah. And it yeah, it got left behind. I don't know how I mean I left it in the closet, but things elastic. It's a busy day. Yeah. And then my party dress was also a wedding dress. Yeah. That it was fun to cut no as long. It was like a real, we actually would cut the train off it. So it was just fun. Oh. But I didn't do it myself. You're right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

When it arrived.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

But I I part of me would love to take my dress out and just try it on again. I know. I had both of my boxes under John's bed. I would love to. I mean, mine's I mean, the crazy thing is too, it's 20 years old. I know. Those dress because you're you'll be 20 years in May, right? In yeah, July. Yeah. Oh, July.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Wait, what if we take them out? Can you put them? Can we have them resealed?

SPEAKER_04 26:52

Yeah, you would have to bring it back to the cleaners and have them redone. What the heck? Should we do it?

SPEAKER_03 26:58

I'm so nervous to take it out. But then on the other hand, she's just in there. Where would we go?

SPEAKER_02 27:04

What if she didn't fit? That's what the fuck you're thinking about.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

That's what I'm worried about too. I it probably, well, I don't know. Might fit. All right. Where would we go to help your ghosts?

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SPEAKER_02 27:18

Somewhere. I think we'd have to ask anybody else if they were willing to do it too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

So then it's three crazy people in their wedding dresses. You think only one person would say yes? She said, and then we'd be like, she said yes. Oh, do we involve our husbands in it? So that they can rent a tux? Well, yeah. Well, Al has a tux. Oh, yeah. There we go. He's just Al and three brides. Oh God, sister wives.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Hello.

SPEAKER_04 27:44

Um, I wonder where you could go. Like makeup, because would it be funnier to go somewhere real casual? Or would it be funnier to go somewhere really nice? Or like do you go to Kenny's and you go to Hillgrow? And I shot him allore. I feel like my dress is still pretty big. I might need two seats.

unknown 28:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

I wish I could check down my petticoat so I could be poofy too. We could get you one.

SPEAKER_04 28:10

We could.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

We'll find you. We'll just borrow, we'll just use the tool that you cut out.

unknown 28:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

I wonder if my mom has that somewhere. Well, sure. What about your prom dress? Wait, well, I didn't go to prom. No. But I did have what? No. I went with a big group of girls. Okay. And guys. But you didn't go to the pasture party. You didn't go to the dance.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Sweet. I did not. Oh. But I do still have a terrible photo.

SPEAKER_04 28:41

Yeah. Of a homecoming dress that I wore that my mom told me was too short. I'm too small. And I didn't listen.

SPEAKER_03 28:53

She was.

SPEAKER_04 28:54

And now I look back and I'm like, that is terrible.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Yeah.

Dress Love: Pockets, Straps, And Fit

SPEAKER_04 28:58

So word to the wise, word of caution, daughters. Listen to your moms. Listen to your moms. Yeah. I mean, again, what's the big deal? I know. It's just a picture, but then you're like, oh right. Whoopsie. But that's all that I think like something as you learn as you get older, like you have to dress to the body you have. You know, like I know I can't wear super short dresses, but I know you struggle with long flowy pants. I do struggle with long flowy pants.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

I also struggle with dresses coming to the house in envelopes.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Oh, I assume these are not ordered by you. No, no. And that's the other thing. Like the whole fun of like going and shopping and trying to trying on. Yes. I know. There, I mean, I order stuff online and I try it on at home, but it really is way more fun to try it on in the store. Like Rose will make her communion in April. And I'm excited to go have her try on dresses.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

That was another miss for me. I didn't realize that it was a really big deal. Oh. And so I waited till just like the week before to go take Elle to get a dress.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

Thankfully, Martinelli.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

You're lucky you have found something.

SPEAKER_04 30:15

Thankfully, Martinelli, which is a dress shop my mom used to take us to, like an old-fashioned clothing store.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

Yeah. Had a handful at a rack left.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Uh bonus, they were like 75% off.

SPEAKER_04 30:29

So really you maybe not really. Yeah, it did have pearls along the top.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

It's a beautiful dress that both the girls wore it.

SPEAKER_04 30:37

Yeah. Do you remember your first communion dress? I do. My dress I remember was okay. I don't I don't remember like trying dresses on or picking it out. But we must have, but I loved my shoes. You did. They were white, of course, like like ballet flats, but then they had silk ribbon, like point shoes that you tied up your legs. Did you pick them?

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yes. I was like, I love these shoes so much.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

But then I also, I mean, I had tights on with them, so I don't know how much the ribbon could be shown. My mom chose my convenient dress. It was lit white linen dress. I think it was maybe from Sea Island when we were on vacation. Oh, pretty. And it wasn't big and fluffy and no, it was it had what is that called? Eyelid? A bib.

unknown 31:27

A bib. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Like a collar. I know what you're saying. I think it was monogram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like a simple. It was very timely. I have a picture of myself in it. My dress is in my mom's house. Oh, it is? Oh, it's still there. Aaron's too. I do appreciate the. I don't think so. She found my communion veil and she's like, maybe I could wear your veil. And I was like, you don't want to wear this. You want your own. Okay. It's old. It's her 1987. It's vintage.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

That's what I was looking for. Vintage.

SPEAKER_04 32:02

But my mom, so my mom and my aunt are less than a year apart in year-wise, but the so they're one grade level apart. And when my aunt made her first communion, my mom wore her first communion dress to my aunt's communion.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

And for some reason, my grandma was like, You look great. Perfect. No way. Yes. So my poor aunt, she had her whole special day. And then there's my mom, like also a communion dress. Oh, that's such a flex. Yeah, I love such so much.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

And also I love that you're Grandma.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

Yeah, well, we've asked her. We would she's passed now, but we'd be like, Grandma, why? She's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

She was probably just ready, and I was like, she looked nice. Yeah, I wasn't thinking about favorite dresses from like movies and shows or characters.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Do you have a character? I do dresses, you know.

SPEAKER_04 33:05

Um Kira Knightley wore a dress in this movie, and now I just forgot the name of the movie. It's this beautiful green silk dress. That is stunning. But that's a dumb story because I can't remember the movie. Dumb story leaves a how you the marvelous Mrs. Maze. Those are my favorite dresses. Every dress in that show is a winner. It is a winner. With a matching person ahead. I know gloves and gloves. Oh, just to be in that costume room. I know. My sister-in-law for a long time worked at Fitum, the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising in LA, and they would put on frequently costume exhibits, and she got to, you know, handle the costumes and dress the mannequins. And she even got to go to Reese Weatherspoon's house to pick up stuff from Did she play it cool? Legally blonde. She's like, I totally tried to play it cool, but the whole time I'm like looking around.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Like I'm trying to scope it out. Like, do you want me to try it on? Do you have any pack it off? Do you want me to stay for a dress?

SPEAKER_04 34:04

Dad, or you think about a like the ginger spice dress? Yes. Exactly. The Union Jack flag. Yes. Like, holy smokes, or that J-Lo, that green Gucci dress that she had. Oh, right, yeah. Did you see her at the Golden Globes on Sunday? No. Holy Moses, Nora. The naked dress is back. Well, Jennifer Lawrence. Here's the thing. Oh, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

I don't like it either. Because I feel like something about just flowers on your butt.

unknown 34:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

You don't want to sit on the flowers on your butt. She looks good, but I don't know. I can't even look at her.

Wedding Dress Adventures And Regrets

SPEAKER_04 34:38

I'm just looking at her butt. I'm just looking at it. I'm like, fell off her butt on the butt. Nobody wants to. She just she does not have underpants on. What does one wear? Also, is she cold? I don't know. I do, yes. She is cold. Okay. Look at J Low. I said she kind of looks like a broom. Like she looks like she's a beauty and the beast. She does look like a broom. Looks like a broom.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

And it doesn't look comfortable to walk. I can see her nipples.

SPEAKER_04 35:05

Remember that was a thing?

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Yeah, it was a thing.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

Does she know that? I don't know. She does now. Yeah, right. This Jean Jenna Ortega has no eyebrows. She went invisible eyebrows on her little look, but it was it was very interesting. I mean, we could do part two on dresses. We could talk for days. For days. But she didn't even get to Coco Chanel. Should we just launch into highs? Oh, that's highs and lows. Let's do it. My low is that Rory popped an English assignment that he needed help with on me last night at like nine o'clock. And I wanted to scream. Did you do it? Or were you helped? Sorry, you did. That was nice if I helped him do it. But I was just so frustrated because we've had a lot of pep talks lately about I'm happy to help you, but I need some notice.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

I need some yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

I need some notice. And I'm like, you are also old enough to notice. It was the assignment was a little confusing, but I love that you were able to help them. It was an English assignment. Okay. I'm not that you're not fit to help. Right. But if it was like, I need to do a physics experiment, I'd have been like ask your dad.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:12

Well that I'd be like, get on YouTube. Milo, I don't know if I've talked about this on the podcast that I lost my earring.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Oh, I don't know if you have.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I lost my earring. My diamond stud is for my 21st birthday from my parents, and the diamond jacket around it is from the Christmas before my wedding from my parents, and I have looked everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

Oh, Nora, I'm so sorry. And I'm still looking everywhere, and I still can't find it. So I'm very sad about that. I'm so sorry. I know. I haven't talked about it on the podcast, I don't think, because Well, remember I lost my arena. Yes. And I I still like haven't given up. Oh yeah, I still haven't given up either. Every time I go to New York, I like scour their house. I know. So it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

Thank you. What's your high? My high is that Saturday to this basketball game.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

I jumped in the car with a dear friend who said she was happy to drive a group of girls. And I was also going to go to the game. Yeah. So I invited myself to sit shotgun in her car and catch up because I haven't seen her in a while. We drove there and back and we had a great touch up. And it was so good to see her. And I was just so happy to be able to spend the evening with her. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

No real high. Like not in a bad way. I just feel like that happened sometimes. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. It's all good. But well, like you said at the top of the show, I'm fine. I'm right. Totally fine. Totally fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Well, thank you for joining us. And uh we'll see you back here next week. Bye.