Calendar People

Your calendar isn’t just dates and boxes. It’s the story of your life, the mental load you’re carrying, and the one tool that can either calm the chaos or make it louder. We’re two Noras comparing notes on how we actually keep a family schedule running, from paper planners and wall calendars to shared phone calendars that everyone can see.

We get specific about what works: weekly planning on Sundays, color-coding each kid’s appointments, and why school calendar subscriptions can be helpful or completely overwhelming. We also talk honestly about the exhausting dynamic of being the only person who “knows everything,” especially when kids won’t write anything down, and how a shared system can give you your brain back. If you’re searching for real-world time management, planning routines, and family organization tips, this is the kind of conversation that makes you feel less alone and more equipped.

And because our lives are never just one topic, we weave in the day’s headlines and real moments too: jury duty surprises, a flock of sheep taking over a store in Germany, a pen name scandal around a bestselling thriller author, and a wild wedding story that ends with jail time. We even nerd out on the Gregorian calendar reform and the missing days of 1582, plus why the month names still don’t line up.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Cheers, thanks for joining us today. It's Nora and Nora.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

That stays in. Why that you said my name for me? I have had it needed some help this week. So thank you, Nora. I appreciate that. I appreciate the prosecco from Silt Bar.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

And I appreciate you having me. Um, I'd like to go on record as saying they are not a sponsor.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Oh no, they but if they want to be.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

And we did not take it from an actual bar of silt. No. What is silt? I haven't done the background research on this, but a dear friend of mine introduced me to it. And it is low in sugar, low in calorie, but the alcohol content is the same. So be careful.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

I had fun, did you say?

Jury Duty Stories And Courtroom Snoring

SPEAKER_01 0:57

I had fun. I had fun. It's lovely. So I like to describe myself. We have how about full disclosure? We are doing a first time ever Saturday recording session because our original record date was hijacked, if you will. Hijacked by the circuit Cortica County because I was called. Oh, yeah, I should finish that sentence. It sounds like I went to court. Sounds like you're a crook. I was called in for jury duty. You did your civic duty.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

And in return, we get to record with a drink in hand at five o'clock on a Saturday. How about it? Mm-hmm. And you were discharged from your duty. I was.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I was not chosen for the jury, but I still went through all the paces and went and sat through all the selection process. It really was fascinating. And you saw some people. Well, here's a little thing that I learned. You know, when you go to jury duty, they ask you full out, you know, have you been ever accused of a crime? And, you know, there were 18 people who went before me to answer all these questions. And I was sitting there, I'm like, what? But a lot of people have accused of a couple of things.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Of the 18? Yes. Did that make you nervous that you might get called? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Because it was like, I was like, Jesus, he didn't. I mean, well, the guy who had sexual assault did not get chosen. Another guy with domestic battery did get chosen. What? Yeah. Another man was in the Russian army.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Is that a crime? Not a crime, but did not get picked. I was kind of curious to see which way that was gonna go. It's interesting that their crimes are not like asked in a more like quiet space. They said, like, you know, we have to ask to get a full idea to have a fair jury.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

You know, if you are uncomfortable answering these questions out loud, you can ask for a private audience.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Yeah, but if you ask for a private audience, then we're pretty like Oh, who'd you kill? It's like blink once if you committed battery. Blink twice if you But I did go home and say to my kids, I'm like, you want to be at if you ever get when you get called for jury duty, you want to be the person who's sitting there like, nope, nope, nope. I'm like, you want to have a very boring story. Major choice. No. Mm-mm. I had like a nice like facial expression, gesture exchange with this one girl because a gesture exchange.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Is your high five? Exchange that like a gesture.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Like a shrug or like a point and then I because we're sitting. Everything's a okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Exercising. Oh no, that was dancing.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

So we're sitting in the jury, like the before we went to the courtroom, we're in the little jury waiting room, and I had my computer. I was like getting down to computing.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Because I tight like a squirrel eats in this. We're sitting there, and all of a sudden we hear so loud.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Snoring. How large is the room that the 18 people? It's probably like the size of your dining room kitchen. I picture it like the DMV. Yes, decorated similar to the DMV, but a big space. They use the same designer. They sure did. So loud. And this guy was loud, loud, snoring, and he was like 10 feet away from me. And so I looked up, and the girl across from me, we caught eyes, and I was like, hmm?

SPEAKER_00 4:42

And she pointed. So that was her gesture. And I looked and I was like, whoa. I was like, wow. And I so I put my hands up and my eyes went wide.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

So we had a little gesture exchange. And that was it. Well, then when we were in the courtroom, he sat in front of me, fell asleep again, snoring again in the courtroom. Do you think he works the night shaft? Maybe he does. Bless his heart. Who knows? But I got paid$35. Cha-ching. Yeah. How about it? Yeah, what are you gonna do with that?

SPEAKER_00 5:14

I don't know. I'm gonna cash that check and buy a bottle of soap bar.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

I owe you many bottles. No, no.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Not that we have. What kind of Norris are we? Sorry. But, anyways, so that's why we're recording on a Saturday. Yeah. How is Aiden's elbow? Aiden's elbow is better. I haven't talked to you since I haven't gotten a follow up. He's out of the sling. He can drive again. Right. He's gotta do some occupational therapy, not physical therapy. Some OT, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Yeah, so OT and some little exercises to do, but we're uh on the mend.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Good. I bet he's feeling better, like mentally too.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yeah, I think it's just been kind of a bummer. Yeah. And then there have been a couple times where he's like, I'm fine, I can drive. And I'm like, let's just toe the line.

unknown 5:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

How are what about your injury report?

Injuries Updates And Dog Trainer Drama

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Injury report, I've got a child with a bolting disc. I have a bolting disc. You do? Yeah. S1C5, I don't know what it is. Somewhere. It's down here. Oh, that's where mine is done. Oh, it is. Yeah. I've got somebody with who's recovering from a Tommy John partial tear. Got somebody with a foot situation. But other than that, we're gonna. Oh, great. Yeah. And you have a skinny dog. I have the skinniest dog you ever did. This is a brand new lady. Yeah. Wilma went to get groomed today because she was her hair was getting so long, and I feel like it got bamboozled the last time we took her to this other place. So we had a dog trainer come. She gave us some scoop. And I might be a dog trainer. Okay. It's gonna be my side hustle. Great. I can only teach you a couple things because the dog trainers only come once, but she charges a hefty fee. Yeah. So and I feel like they come, it sounds like she just told you like what to do.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Yeah. And then she left.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah. And she's going on vacation for three weeks. So she won't be back for a while. Michigan. I'm walking to Michigan. Where was she going? I hope she's going to like New Zealand. Florida, Florida. Stop it. Um for three weeks. She lives in Burr Ranish, which I was like, wait, for three weeks in Florida? I don't unless it's a lot. I couldn't make a client. I couldn't make small talk. I was on the clock. She was only there for 30 minutes. That's fair. That's fair. But she had like a i Train Dogs shirt on, like the name of our business. Oh. So that's legit. She gave me a card. I met her at Mariana's. Oh. No, wait, wait, wait. She had the t-shirt on. And you were like, perfect. It's like, excuse me, ma'am. Did you just bring her home for Marianne? Yeah. That was like happened. No, our children's first grade teacher, who Mrs. Hackett. Oh. Recommended her because she's a friend of hers. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

So very a reputable recommendation. Yeah.

unknown 8:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Very nice. We're sleep training. I mean, she doesn't have problems sleeping, but that's how I feel. Yes. Where you're like, we have to follow the rules. Yeah. So thank you for hitting the nail on the head with that. It's all good.

Sleeping Naked And Bedroom Temperature

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Two well, one random question, and then something in the news I'm hoping you've heard about.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

I know we've spent a lot of time just unpacking life.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

So we know that because we talked about pajamas, that I'm a pajama pants and t-shirt kind of girl. You're a coordinated pajama set kind of girl.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Apparently, it might be better to sleep in your birthday suit. Really? Yes. That was a nice. I feel like you'd have to do your sheets a lot more often. If you're all naked pie in your bed, I feel like you gotta be doing your sheets every day. It's like your undies.

unknown 8:49

Right?

SPEAKER_01 8:50

I don't have that kind of time. Oh, sheets take up a lot of space in your washing machine. Yeah, if you're sleeping in the nude, you're I hope those sheets are going down the chute on it daily. Barf.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

Tell me to even think of that. Well, this article was saying that temperature is very important in your sleep quality and that you should that because you don't want heat to get trapped between your skin and your pajamas and your bedding. So you either you wear like moisture with my dry fit jamms.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Sleep naked and you'll wake up feeling more refreshed. Would you I just laugh so hard thinking about all the times I get up in the middle of the night to like check Aiden's blood sugar, or I have to give him like candy because he's low, or like bolus because he's high, or like Kevin comes into our bed, or like Rose is scared, or like I get up for something else.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Why did we both do that? Why did we both do that?

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Because really, if I was up walking around naked, I would be like, oh if I was walking around naked, I'd go like this. One arm to cover the girls and one hand to cover the park.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

I'm just laughing because I were crocs in my house.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Wake up and put my crocs on my butt naked, like, what was that noise? Is Kevin sleepwalkie? Well, on the other night, um, if our kids are like if they're hosting or if they're coming in later than we've already gone to bed, we put Wilma upstairs in our room, like at the foot of our bed, so that she doesn't start yapping in her crib downstairs. So I but she was up sleep crib, crib crib, right close to the house. It's really just a cage. But about midnight, she flew from our bed down to the front door and was like bark, bark, bark, bark, barking. So I flew in your pajamas. My pajamas, but could you damage? Hey. Did I ever tell you once my sister my sister used to have super weird like backyard neighbors?

SPEAKER_00 11:17

And she used to work in her bedroom and it faced the back of the house. And she looked out the window, and this woman was toppling taking muffins out of her office.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

That's risky. So risky. How worried are you about your hands? 100%.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

How is that? You are just asking for a nasty bird. We had a neighbor behind us who would swim in the bath. Oh no. Oh, yeah, you probably had to check the young ones. That's just a bath, isn't it? Water or the chlorine, I think. I don't know. But back to the sleeping naked and the heat and the trapping. You don't make your bed right away, right? Right. As not to trap germs. And I think about that often, but I still make it right like Yeah. I mean, it is. I mean, here's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

No one else is sleeping in that bed but me. It's all well, yeah. But it's all our own germs. Like whatever's getting trapped in there came from me in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Just germmin around. Yeah. Germinating? Just yeah, festering, whatever. Yeah. But it said keep your room 60 to 67 degrees. They just wanted to say six, seven. They just want, yeah. I know. My house is 63 degrees right now. It's very comfortable in here. And maybe it's the prosecco.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Yeah. Silch bar is best enjoyed at 63 degrees.

Sheep Take Over A German Store

SPEAKER_01 12:56

I'm just gonna go ahead and switch gears quickly. Because I have nothing else to share about sleeping in the nude, the buff. I read a story, and we must have missed this because it took place in January about sheep that took over a store in Germany. What? Did you see this? No, did we talk about this? No. Okay. What? So a shepherd. Okay. And I had to reread that. I was like, yeah, I guess that's what you are. Yeah, that is his his job. I was like, Jesus. A shepherd was moving 500 plus sheep to a winter shelter, which I was like, why didn't you do that? In November.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

He he was a little behind. Game's late. And then this crew of 50 sheep kind of went rogue near, they called it a penny discount store. It was like a dollar store. Yeah. They think there was acorns or something in the parking lot that kind of lured a couple of them. And then the others followed suit.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

And they ended up with 50 sheep that went rogue in this store. And it took the people in the store over 20 minutes to kind of like. They said they were calm. The sheep? Mm-hmm. Okay. But they left a giant mess. Ew, gross. Have you ever seen a sheep in person? No. They're mean. Like they're scary. I don't think I know the difference between a sheep and a goat. Oh, sheep are fluffy. Goats are hairy. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Um, sheep, like when they make that like meh, it's not friendly.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Yeah, nice sound. Is it like, because like if you go to Ireland, it's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

unknown 14:35

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Like, I'm on your land. Forgive me.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Yeah, so they could they were trying to figure out how to get them out, so they had to start like banging and make loud noises. The patrons that were in the store were jumping up on like the shelves. And I was reading this. I was like, patrons, why don't you just run out? Why don't you just go you get your penny wise items? Pennywise, I think that's space.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

That's that's the that's it.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Okay. But I I would have just like, you know what? I can get my dollar store items in one day. Or you just walk out. But instead of the penny discount store was like, you know what? No worries that your 50 sheep, your 50 sheep caused a giant disaster in our store. We're not gonna charge you, no problem. Thank you for the publicity.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

I wonder if other shepherds, like if you're a shepherd and you read that story, if you're like rookie rookie, right? Never bring your sheep near a course.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Why didn't you just keep driving?

Secret Author Identity And Pen Names

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Oh, okay. My last thing, I'm excited to talk to you about this. Have you heard about the scuttle butt about the housemaid?

unknown 15:49

No.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Frida McFadden is Well, she's the author. It's not her real name. Oh, that's her. She's a ghostwriter. It's a thin name. She picked Frida. Frida McFadden. Oh, I would not pick that. And what's her real name? Well, her real name is Sarah Cohen.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

That's a cute name. And the the problem I had with this article was, and she's adorable, but she they're like, she's a brain doctor. I was like, would that not be a neurologist?

SPEAKER_01 16:15

A neurologist or a neuroontologist. What creator is writing? There's a lot of, but what kind of like so yeah, that was funny, but yeah, so they're like, she's a brain doctor.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

And she didn't want it to interfere with her medical practice. And so she used Freedom McFadden. And uh it does sound like a writer. She it does, it totally does. And that some of her coworkers kind of figured it out, but were like, if you want to keep it a secret, won't say it.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

They figured out because she's like, you guys.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

She was like, How do you think you could kill someone and get away with?

SPEAKER_01 16:48

She's like, tell does anybody know any like editors like asking for a friend? Right. She's always on her laptop. I don't think she's charting. She's like really excited about this book called The Housemaids. Like, what? She had lunch with Sydney Sweeney. I don't know. I don't know. I think Sarah has a sign hustle. Or she's like, does anybody want to start a book club and like read the house? She keeps leaving copies of it in the lab. I don't know. It's kind of intense for brain patients. But she's but if they're like all signed, it's so weird. She's really good for Frieda McFadden. Sorry, sister. Oh no. She's gonna keep writing and she's still gonna use Freedom McFadden.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Even though everybody knows she's everyone knows she's Sarah Cohen.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Wow, she must be busy. Well, she stepped back from her practice. She's only practicing. What was she? Once her neurologist? No joke. This article says brain doctor. But that can go many ways. It's from variety. So it's not like it's some Jamoke, like in like a that's her. Yeah, that's her. She looks like she wrote that book.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

It says it's time to unveil my tri.

Bride Attacked With Paint Before Wedding

SPEAKER_01 18:02

She works as a brain doctor when not writing books. That seems crazy to me. But it then it says she's only working one or two days a month, which I was like, that's a terrible document. I don't have like, come on, sir. Just be a writer. Or just be a brain doctor. Yeah. My whole goal was to keep it a secret until I was ready to step back from my doctor job. Oh, she said doctor job? Doctor job. Oh. So I'm heavy for. Does she have a publicist? Oh yeah, probably. But no. Step back from my doctor from a doctor job. Maybe from my practice or from my oh. So maybe she's dumbing it down for us, mere mortals. Wait, did you hear about this bride in the UK?

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Oh no. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 18:46

I thought you might have because of all you. I've been a jury duty. I haven't had time. Well, I thought maybe you had time to read or you have a good connection to I do love all the British stories.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

So this poor bride had paint splattered on her by her sister-in-law moments before she walked down the aisle. Was the sister-in-law painting a mural as a wedding gift or a true? No. It was malicious. Self-expression? No. She was just like angry. Yeah. It was as revenge. Oh! Not okay. So let me let me unpack this. Yeah. So moments before she walked down the aisle, the sister-in-law, not her soon-to-be husband's like her sibling's wife. This is her brother's wife. Okay. Was angry because she thought that she had tried to trip her when she had her own wedding walking down the aisle. Which she stated, which she stated was a fallacy. Did not happen. So after this bride was covered in this like black mud slash paint. Oh no. They hit pause and she said she'd been in a relationship with her partner for 20 years and they finally decided to tie the knot. And so they hit house on the wedding. They got a new dress. She got all cleaned up. The guests waited two hours and they did the thing. Oh. But the sisters. Is she going to jail? Yes. Good. She got herself in some big old trouble. Go, United Kingdom justice. Ten months in jail. Good. 12 months on parole. And 160 hours of what we call community service.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Don't mess with a British wedding, man.

unknown 20:36

What are you?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Come on. Right? Because I thought she tripped me. And everybody knows it's you. Like, wouldn't you be horrified? And that's also something she clearly thought about. Like premeditated.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

She's like, her wedding is in four weeks, so that means I gotta get my black paint. I gotta get in a position, and then I gotta.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

And how about her brother? Her husband married? I didn't read, I didn't say an article, but like, as the bride, wouldn't you be like, brother, your wife, she cray.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

She cray. Yeah. Cuckoo bananas.

Communion Day And Learning To Be Present

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Right? I know. I love that she was like, you know, I'm getting a new dress real fast. Speaking of new dresses, how about your daughter in her beautiful communion dress? It was a really special, lovely day, my rosy girl. We spent a lot of time. Which is what I think my husband is looking for me right now. Well, it was worthwhile. I was so happy to look through all those beautiful pictures. We're gonna post them for everybody to see.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Yeah, no, I'm happy to post them. She was so cute. It was really fun to buy a dress this time instead of a suit.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

And she she looked lovely and was so happy. Wasn't it fun to have a daughter instead of I mean no disrespect to our friends? It's just a whole different experience. And she was cute because she was like, you know, just we were just talking about the day.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

And I said to her, I was like, you know what? Something that I always forget to do, Rose, is I forget to sometimes just take a deep breath and take it all in and just like enjoy my moment. I was like, so during the mass, I was like, maybe, you know, pick a point at the mass, like maybe after the homily or after the like take a deep breath and just like look around and try to just remember it. And so after mass, like I went and got her. It's like, how did it go? She's like, I took three deep breaths so I could look around and take it in so I could remember.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Oh, how did you think to do that?

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Well, I just feel like there's so much like, uh, I'm trying, I think that's something I'm working on with myself to just be like present. Just be present, like calm down.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

That is such good life advice. And so she was like, I did it three times. It was sweet. That was I love that you thought to tell her that. And I love that she listened. It was nice that she did. Because I'm thinking about my first communion, and I can picture my first communion picture. And I was so mad I wanted a veil, and I just had a baby bread, a baby's bread. It's funny because that's what I did for my girls. Well, I had like a veil with like fake flowers, but no hair. I had like you no hair? I had Peter Pan haircut. Oh that was slowly growing out into a mullet. But you kind of nailed it with Rose, though, because she had a beautiful it was a bow veil. Bow veil, yeah. Bovale. Which is kind of sounds weird, but it worked. It worked, yeah. It worked for her hair. It looked really, really cute.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

She was very happy with and it lasted. Like it stayed in. It didn't get some of the pearls fell off, but I saved them. But yeah, it was a really special day.

Sponsor Break And Return

SPEAKER_01 23:49

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SPEAKER_00 23:57

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Why We Love Calendars

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SPEAKER_00 25:16

I had the babysitters club calendar. I would get it like, I think I had it three years in a row. Then I had like an art institute calendar, like wall calendar.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

I remember yeah, I remember calendars as far back as my memory goes. My mom had calendars. I love she had this was like she had such beautiful cursive. And I would love to look at it and just see. She had a phone book that matched the calendar.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Oh, of course.

Paper Planners Vs Phone Calendars

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Yeah, I just love to see. And then I remember in high school, I had an outfit calendar. What? So I would write down my outfits every day. Was it premeditated or was it like I like you would get dressed and then write it down? Well, it could go both ways. Like in order, it kind of guided my Oh because you were like, oh, I already wore this. Yes. So that you wouldn't have a repeat in the month. See, going to a Catholic school, I was screaming. Not necessary. Plaid skirt, shirt, and sweater. But that is amazing. Do you still have it? No, it was kind of like a pad of paper where it was a blank calendar and you wrote the name of the month on top and then you filled in a tiny square in the larger square. That's the number. Incredible. Oh, it was so satisfying. Yeah. And thankfully my mom loved fashion, right? So it would work if I was like, ugh. I feel like I've already used all my outfits. Yeah. And she was great about that. And you had evidence. Like you had like exhibit A. I'm still in jury mode. You are even though I did get picked. I would, and I loved an assignment notebook. Oh, I loved an assignment notebook too. Oh, oh, I still have my assignment notebooks from college because it was a planner, essentially. Wait, you got them in oh, because Dayton gave you a planner. Well, I guess Dayton had a less people to print. Yeah. We only had 7,000 compared to your 30s. I think it was. But I and I still haven't because not only would I put my homework, but I would put like where I went to parties on the weekends and like my dad uses a planner religiously to write down what he works, like his workout, yes, who he was with. Amazing. To kind of check all the bit, like I don't know and then cover all the basics and then not so much as what to do. But I remember even in high school, Kate Spade came out with a planner. I had Kate Spade planners. I have all my old Kate Spade planners. I save all my planners. I would rubber band them together. They're in a bin. I used to I almost pulled mine out to put here, but I was like, what are we gonna do? Look back to when I went to the pediatrician. I'm like, no one wants to hear that. But I I loved it, it was so cute. It was like mine was plaid, and you would get like the little six ring thing. Mine was great. And I would keep so I would have like the current year and then I would have the last year in it too. Because I always used to love to look like this time last year, what was I doing? And I would do what you just mentioned. I would rubber band it and put it away. And I still like my life is in those plants. My life is also in my blog, which is a little more detailed and has pictures. But yeah, and this is what I use. See, I gave up my paper. You did. And I'm sad about it. But like this is April.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

But I was gonna ask you, do you fill your planner out at the beginning of the week? So or as you go or as the month, don't you? I have a paper calendar, like a paper monthly calendar that I fill in usually two months ahead of time, like any standing up, like practices or like driver's ed and like rehearsals and things like that that I know.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

And then I I I probably look at it every week and fill it in and add things that cup pop up, but I really now am all phone calendar.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

So on Sundays, I fill in these little boxes.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Oh, okay. So you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Although if I know something is happening before I sit, like for this week coming up, I know a few things, so I fill them in. Right. But yeah, you I sit down on Sundays. But where do you so on Sunday, where are you getting your information from?

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Rust from oh, from Ryan. Okay. So I keep the real Bible in our family is my phone calendar.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

And because I see everybody can see it. So some of this stuff is just private to me. Sounds really private to me. But like eight, all of Aiden's appointments are blue. So your kids are color quoted.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

They're colored or excuse me, Aiden's appointments are green, Rory's are blue, Kevin's are red, Rose is pink, Al is orange, and I am purple. And then yellow things are like school or like miscellaneous. And so everyone sees that. So Aiden and Al see his stuff, Rory and Al see his stuff.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

Oh, it's so like Aiden doesn't see Kevin's stuff, but he sees his own. So Mike uses his own planner. He uses his phone and he uses something like this. Okay. Elle uses a whiteboard and her phone. So she has it in her room written out. So if I need to know what Elle's doing, I can check her planner. Yeah. I and my TRs refuse to write things down. And I'm How do they remember? They don't. Oh this is the problem. And this is what we keep trying to say to them. Like, write it down. So you have to remind them. Yes. What if you don't know? Then I then it's m then it's gone. Then it doesn't have to. So you know everything.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Yes. And it's exhausting.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

And I don't, I don't recommend it. I would say it's impressive.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

It's enabling. It's enabling. Like they're they're sunk.

Color Coding Kids And Family Schedules

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Like when they move out of the house, I'm like, so if they do they have to check what you have? Yeah, they're looking at the wall calendar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

And then in the morning, I'm like, we've got this, this, this, and this.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

So then I look at their calendar to fill mine. Well so long as I didn't make a mistake. And then Catherine Grace, she uses a family calendar. Aww. So I get our whole family. So Elle does her thing on her whiteboard and it doesn't disrupt anyone. Mike is on his phone and on his paper. Paper calendar, that doesn't disrupt anyone. John doesn't do that. I just tell John what he's doing. But Catherine Grace, because she uses a family calendar on like phones. On phones, we all know. Yeah. We all know what he wants. I'm ready to know. It's but it's interesting because like I love so the grammar school, you can go in and download the calendar. I did that one year. I'm not ever doing it. But you know what's nice about the St. John's one? You can delete the stuff that doesn't pertain to you. When? Like I well, I look at it often enough. So I have a second grader and a fifth grader.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

So if I see something for seventh grade confirmation, I'm like, delete, delete, delete, delete. Nazareth, the high school, you have to subscribe to the calendar.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

But then you don't really do anything. Like you can't delete anything. Oh, so I'm like junior ring ceremony, coffee and conversations.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

I'm like, I can't delete it. But I like knowing it because it shows me like blue day, white day, and I kind of like to know that.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

I don't know the day. I mean, I know they're every other day, but I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Like what their schedule is? Yeah. I have to look in plus.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Do they have the same one?

SPEAKER_00 32:53

No, blue days and white days are different.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

No, no, but does everybody have the same blue day?

SPEAKER_00 32:58

What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Are blue days blue days? Right. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Like it's a blue day, like Aiden has a blue day, Rory has a blue. Yes, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Freshman through seniors, everyone has a blue day. But uh I will say it's a disservice to me that I have not been on the ball. But I don't think you're not on the ball. But I think it's been in a weird way kind of empowering for them. Yeah. Because they know it's up to them. Which is and I don't who knows.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

I mean, in a merino, blue day, white day. But I also kind of just like to know because then I'm like, oh, I know it's a white day. I know you had physics to do. See, I don't know what happened. So then I can ask you, how was physics?

SPEAKER_01 33:40

But it on the flip side, they are probably they're gonna look back and be like, our mom never knew what was going on.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

No. They can look back at your planners and be like, she knew exactly what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Because they looked at it But thank you for um Pope Gregory the Thirteenth, man. See the one that nicked the 10 days. He was like Gregorian calendar, we gotta fix this. And I love that he named it after himself. Do you know that would us that would be like us being like the calendar? But can we talk about 1582? Sure. I don't know about you. 1582.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

I just wrote a song.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Well, I mean you're directing a musical. Yep. I'm a songwriter. Could you imagine if you were living in 1582? And then we just lost October 4th through October 15th. They call it the big skip. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

You were like, all right, there's 304 days in the calendar, and then there's 61 days of winter. We're just calling it 61 days of winter.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

I like that it was based around Easter and it was tied to the equinox and the church was concerned. And like I I like the like the premise of it. Like where it came from. But I want I the fact that they were like 10 months and then who cares? I just can't believe that for so many years it works, and then all of a sudden they're like, yeah, buy 10 days. We can't have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

What if you had some people?

School Calendars And Too Much Noise

SPEAKER_01 35:19

That would be amazing if you're like, oh shoot.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

I had like these like 1582 like peasants, like, shoot, I gotta pay my my serve, like my taxes to the landlord.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

I was thinking more of like a haircut.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Like, do I not get my hair? And a lot of them. I'm thinking of like the people like digging potatoes out of the ground. That they were like, sweet, that day doesn't exist anymore. Thank you, Pope Gregory. Like you're the best. But that it wasn't really like a vacation because it just but it just got removed. Like, how do you but then like when it was just like okay, 61 days, there's no months or days, like was it like an advent calendar? It's like, oh, day 16 of the 61 day blank spot. Too bad way there's nobody to ask. Oh yeah, the dead and gone. But this was crazy to me because I've always wondered my birthday is in September, and Sept is a is for seven. Yeah. But I'm like, September is the ninth month. And I never in Oct October, that's that's eight, but October is the tenth month.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

But that is why, because September was the seventh month in the 10-month system. And then when they like added the new ones, they were like, Well, September works for me, it's the ninth month. But that's just that's detailed. What can you do?

SPEAKER_01 36:45

My wife's birthday's in September, she's gonna change it. Well, the other thing was kind of like travel. Like nowadays, if we're on the East Coast, so we travel to the West Coast, we worry about like three hours, right? But then the Catholics had started this and the Protestants still had shifted. So it was like when you traveled, you'd go up or down ten days. Oh Jesus. Oh, Jesus, yeah. Oh, Pope. Yeah, well, even like the Greek calendar is slightly different, like they have a different Easter. Yeah. But like the Greek Orthodox, yeah. It's bananas, but it what was the one? Because some of the I'd like when I was going through the months, like January is from Janus, the Roman god of beginnings and traditions, and yada yada. Janus? Janus, J-N-U-S. And February is February. I'm surprised we don't know more people named Janus. I mean, like a lot of people thought you want to have a fifth baby? Not naming him Janus. Janus. I feel like a lot of people would get behind that. Like, oh no, it's West Fall. John wants to make his milk Paprika ringo. Paprika. Like, what's wrong with Frederick? Frederick. Oh. Didn't he also he was telling people he had a different name? Oh God, for ages he was Preston. Preston.

unknown 38:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

And there's another little girl in his grade that we're family friends with who at the same time was going by Ava.

SPEAKER_02 38:18

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Real name is Margaret. Oh, okay. So yeah. You know. It was so reassuring to me. Al's cousin was just telling me that she got a Christmas card like years ago from somebody who was like, oh, Merry Christmas, Denona. Our new family name is Smith. What? And she's like, I didn't really think about it. And I, you know, I kept sending their Christmas card to John Johnson to the Johnson family into the Johnson family. She's like, and then she sent me a handwritten note and was like, perhaps you didn't see it in our Christmas card. But our new family name is Smith. What? Our kids didn't like our name. It was due to of one ethnicity, and it made them uncomfortable. So I changed it to Smith? To not Smith, but something else. Can you say it off air?

SPEAKER_00 39:06

I don't remember what it was. Because it was like, I really liked the original name. That was a nice name. That's unreal. Isn't that bizarre? Oh, Alice. They changed it to Alice. I think I shouldn't have said that. I don't know. Who cares? There's Alice name.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

But isn't that crazy? Yeah. Like your whole family changed their name? Do you think they had a family meeting and they like voted like you would vote for your Brady Bunch? They're like family meeting. Like if you're voting on like a name for your fish.

unknown 39:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

My gosh. Ooh, I wouldn't like Alice. I don't like making capital E's that much. I mean, I love my daughter, but I really did think about that. Yeah, I usually lose a cat and I don't like Britties either, but I have a cap and grace. Oh you're really trying to punish yourself. But anyways, yeah. But back to Kevin. Where are we right now?

The Gregorian Calendar And The Missing Days

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Highs and lows. I have no, I mean, my low is just that I feel like I'm a basket case and I'd have no idea what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 40:03

I feel like you have so many highs right now. But I've so high. I've so high right now. But I had a lovely, like Rose's Communion.

SPEAKER_00 40:11

I mean, it was only what is this? Eight hours ago. It was beautiful. Yeah. I'm just so grateful.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

Like all your family got in town. The musical is coming along. I feel like you have so many silent. Yeah. Life is good. I'm basically happy to be here. I saw Silt Bar. I saw Kevin. He was so happy that Little League is starting. Oh, he's happy for baseball season. We cross paths. Oh, that sounds bad.

unknown 40:36

Why?

SPEAKER_01 40:37

We cross paths. Oh, get bumped into them. Oh, okay. They Al and Kevin were leaving Spring Rock. And we were coming because we have the eight o'clock game. Why are they giving fourth graders an eight o'clock? What can you do? I don't know. I I like that it's the bar is low. I like that the parents aren't crazy. I like that it's not clubs or I don't like an eight o'clock game, but I like everything else about Little League so much that I'm willing to overlook. And the other thing is like you go in your pajamas. Yeah. The other thing is, no, actually, I went in jeans and a pullover and a jacket because it was cold. Yeah. And I brought a towel so Wilma could sit, but Ryan said it was really wet. So we were we were kind of pigeonholed into the outfield because that's where it was driest. And we were kind of like under a tree. And I laid a the towel out. And it was Ryan and I and the dog, and she sat down. It's like, this is fantastic. So this is what's nice about when you're youngest. Like, we've had these moments with Rose, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Where I'm like, oh my God, it's me and Al just actually being.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

I said if I knew this was gonna happen, I would have brought a bottle of wine and stopped Devonti and picked up a pizza salads. And had a little picnic. But you know what happened to me?

unknown 41:54

What?

SPEAKER_01 41:55

This isn't really my low. My low is that my closet is an absolute positive mess because it's somewhere between winter and fall and spring and summer is that I was dropping off at soccer for John, and who's only 10, and a couple younger grades were coming out of hockey because it's the same time, or whatever, it's the time before. I was like, oh God, there's a lot of nannies. It's like bringing to hockey. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 42:23

They're just young.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Because they're like five, and it's probably their oldest. Probably like 30. 30. Yeah. And I felt so old. I could have been their moms almost. No. Well, I don't know if they're a baby in high school. Well, if they had their kids at 25 and they were 30, I guess I'd have to have a 15-year-old. Yeah. But still, I mean, not too far removed.

unknown 42:52

Yeah. Oh.

Month Name Origins And Weird Name Stories

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Because they were smilo. Well, they were little because they were carrying all the gear and the these little guys were kind of like toddle waddling out. It was probably like four and five-year-olds. Yeah. Like itty bitty hockey. It was so cute. But at first, I was like, God, and then I had a moment and I was like, uh. I called uh dermatology associates with the grain change. No, I'm just kidding. Also not a sponsor, but if they want to be welcome. Welcome up. Um, so my low is the closet, but my high is that my 15, going to be 16-year-old next week, planned a birthday party. Yay! She's like, I know you're so busy. So I made reservations. I made reservations for eight of us. Only seven can come. We're gonna take this train down. Oh, where does she want to go? They're gonna go to Pizza Portofino. Cute. They're gonna come here. She's like, if you could do like donuts or cinnamon rolls and sprinkles and just get some plates and napkins and drinks. I was like, Yeah, we can do that. She's like, We're all gonna get a ride over here. Then we're gonna take the train. I have a reservation. I use your credit card number to hold it. They won't charge it. We'll probably take pictures downtown. Then we're gonna take this train back. So we go with her? No. Okay. And then we're gonna take this train back, and then everybody can get either picked up from the train station or come back to our house if they want while I open gaps. I was like, that sounds great. I kind of felt sad, but I was kind of proud. Yeah, what a proud moment. And she's like, and I also have my outfit picked out because the stuff that you sent me, like the pictures I sent you that I ordered, I'm gonna wear. So I was like, partially I felt bad because I'm like, you did this by yourself, but partially I was like, okay, you'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. She is on it. Yeah. That's awesome. She's like, when you almost 16. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like she should be able to get her license. She's got a quick funny little thing. Her schedule is bonkers. Yeah. Like right off jumped. So she is finding times for these drives anywhere and everywhere. She can't. She's gotta get those in cars in. Yeah. So she may be a week to hide. She's really close. But I don't work with the scheduling or the driver or anybody. Yeah. So I gotta check with her. I told her once she's done, I'm happy to call the DMV. So hopefully soon she has one today, tonight. That's awesome. And he's dropping her off at her babysitting job. So that's so clever. Yeah. And uh wow, if you're still listening, thanks.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

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