The Power of Chat GPT for Education

We'd like to begin by introducing our very special guest, Dr. Roy Rogers principal at South Ridge Middle School and Lauren Freeman, who is an extraordinary educator for history, social science, and she's a yearbook and IB coordinator. We're just so pleased to have them both here today.  They're here to share information about how to use Chat GPT, which is a language model developed by open AI that uses deep learning to generate human like responses to natural language inputs. 

You can find Dr. Rogers on Twitter @edurlrogers and Lauren @freeLaurentech

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Transcript

Sonal  00:03

Welcome to the SBCSS Digital Learning Bits and Bytes podcast inspired by our dedication for equitable and inclusive educational technology and computer science. Today's digital learning team hosts are Sonal Patel and Jessica Boucher

Jessica  00:19

Hi, everyone. I'm Jessica Boucher 

Sonal  00:21

and hi everyone, I'm Sonal Patel. We'd like to begin by introducing our very special guest, Dr. Roy Rogers principal at South Ridge Middle School. And Lauren Freeman, who is an extraordinary educator for history, social science, and she's a yearbook and IB coordinator. She wears multiple hats. And we're just so pleased to have you both here today.

Dr. Rogers  00:45

We're glad to be here.

Lauren  00:46

Hi, everybody. Thanks for having us.

Sonal  00:49

They're here to share information about how to use Chat GPT, which is a language model developed by open AI that uses deep learning to generate human like responses to natural language inputs. Don't worry, it'll all make sense very soon. It's trained on a massive amount of text data and can understand and respond to a wide range of topics and questions.

Jessica  01:11

Okay, let's start off with a bit of fun. Dr. Rogers and Lauren, please share one bit or byte that people may be intrigued to learn about you. So we will start with Dr. Rogers.

Dr. Rogers  01:25

Well, some people may not know, but I am a classically trained dancer and singer. So usually they assume I do football. But I had scholarships for performing arts actually. I love Performing Arts in the arts.

Jessica  01:45

That is incredible. And Lauren, what is something interesting that you would like to share?

Lauren  01:52

So it's so funny, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. Um, I've played roller hockey. Since I was 14 years old. National teams. I still play. In fact, I have a game tonight. My son plays and I coach. So usually when I'm not at work, I'm at the rink. So it's hockey. Lauren, versus teacher Lauren.

Jessica  02:13

Well, you two are a very interesting pair for sure. Sandra Rodgers is dancing abilities on the on the roller rink, let's combine the two would be great. 

Lauren  02:24

Oh, that would be interesting for sure.

Dr. Rogers  02:27

 Maybe we can see if Chat GPT to make that happen?

Sonal  02:36

Well, speaking of Chat GPT, guess what I did, I took the advice of a really great colleague of mine, Dr. Rogers, who told me to ask chat GPT for some great questions to ask. So I did it. And I got some really good responses. And I, you know, molded them to make them my own. So my very first question is what inspired you to start using chat GPT? And how have you seen it benefit educators at your site? Dr. Rogers, that one's for you.

Dr. Rogers  03:05

Well, actually, I was introduced to chat GPT from Lauren. So we had just come back from the winter break, and she was very excited. She said, Hey, Dr. Rogers, have you heard about chat GPT? And I was like, Well, what's that? So she kind of quickly, she kind of pulled a me just do it. And then she had me sign up. And immediately when I got into the program, and we started just playing, she gave me some some key words and phrases to try. And when I saw it, like, immediately, I said, what an amazing tools. So this time, as we're talking about chat, GPT I want us to think of it as a tool, what a great tool to have a lasting impact on education to help us create engaging learning experiences for students. The benefits that I've seen, just even with my staff, I see a lot more collaboration as they're developing and generating lesson plans, creating more unique experiences. So for example, you can easily give a student a mathematical practice scenario that transfers into real life. So sometimes we could be going over ratios and we just need ideas on how can we make this applicable for students? Chat GPT gives you answers and what I like how you started this conversation with was, you said, you went to chat GPT tickets, some answers, and then you modified it. It's a tool. It's not intended to be something that should immediately replace humans or replace our own intelligence, our creativity. It's supposed to give us a platform to kind of take a stepping stone or get us some ideas get energy and new innovative ideas flowing. So to me Oh, and I have to say One benefit to a parent, I have a little preteen right now who's currently working, you know, in middle school. And what's been awesome about it is it helps me. Sometimes just, I may not remember certain details or facts, or even just sometimes with the math, it is done a little bit different. I was able to use, like, I needed help. I was working on it, I was able to punch in some of the problems that he was doing. And I was able to say, Okay, well, hey, let me ask you a few questions. What resources do you have, and I was able to help him become more of an independent learner himself. He doesn't know about Chat GPT. I haven't told him yet. But he doesn't he but he knows that I was able to help him. And that really made me feel empowered as even a parent where just to remind myself of different things that I could do for my own student.

Sonal  05:53

Absolutely. I love that. Thank you for sharing. And I really appreciate it. When you shared about chat GPT being a tool, right? You talked about being a tool, and it can never really replace that human connection. Right. And that's what I love to reiterate to educators, administrators out there. And also, you also mentioned that Lauren was the one who bought chat GPT to you guess where I heard it first. It was from you, Dr. Rogers, I love like how we're passing the message around. It was early January, I was in your classroom during the professional development. And you asked me if I'd heard of this tool, and I actually hadn't heard of it. I think it was knee deep in my own doctoral dissertation at the time. And I just wasn't looking at the new technologies that were out there in that particular period of time. So I am just so stoked that you bought this to me. I've been obsessed ever since. And, yeah, I really appreciate the work that you're doing with chat GPT and the benefits that you're seeing at your school site.

Jessica  06:49

So I'm going to jump in here and Lauren, since you are kind of the the person who has generated this and sparked interest, I would like to just ask you, if you can walk us through a recent lesson or project where you incorporated chat GPT? And how did it enhance the learning experience for your students?

Lauren  07:12

So what I really like about chat GPT is that it's my ideal planner, it's a way that I can start getting a lot of ideas for whatever lesson I'm doing quickly. I'm sure many teachers out there know that that planning process takes a lot of time, you might scroll through Pinterest for an hour, look through all those pins, go to all these different websites, then Google and then go to all these different websites. And then all of a sudden, you're three hours in and you still really don't have a solidified plan of action. What I like about chat, GPT is I can type it in there. And within 30 seconds, it gives me some solid foundation of kind of where I can start. And I used it recently with planning station rotation. So I know that that's something we're working on with our Blended Learning Station rotations. And you can ask Chad GPT plan for stations for United States time period called Manifest Destiny, and it will then pop in for solid stations. And you don't have to use all four of those. You could say, You know what, I think one and two, boom, those are great. I'm gonna modify these for my students, because I know my students best, I know what works for them. What doesn't work for me, that's, that's super important too. And then maybe I'm going to try to run it again. Maybe I need an offline station, or an online station, or some kind of like modality where, in my class, we're always working with maps, maybe I need my map station. So then I could start modifying from there, it really saves me the time, I don't want to spend five hours of my Sunday, working on station rotations, I would like to spend one hour. And it really does kind of help save me that time on the back end. Just I don't have to dedicate what I used to. So I really appreciate that.

Jessica  09:12

And that's what teachers are always looking for. We're looking for having balance. Because when you are teaching, and you're planning lessons, and you're grading papers, and you're leaving feedback for students, it's almost like there's not enough time to do all the things that you want or need to do. So I love how you said that. Chat. GPT isn't idea planner. And as teachers, we're trying to keep things fresh as well. That's why we like to collaborate. And I'm not suggesting that chat. GPT take away collaboration for teachers. It can enhance though, but getting ideas and keeping ideas fresh. And when you're putting things in chat. GPT and Lauren, you said you know, I might put it in again, because I want to get a different response or at a different key. It's almost like you're able to collaborate. It's not taking away the human component, but you're getting ideas from it and you're able to keep it fresh for your kids and get exactly what works for you, and what works for them. And then also eliminating that rabbit hole of Pinterest TPT, trying to find all those YouTube videos and everything where you're like, oh, goodness, it's been 90 minutes and haven't found exactly what I wanted. So I really like the practical application and way that you are using chat GPT. So that's definitely enhancing your experiences. And thank you for also using it for blended learning, because that's one of the things that we get is people are saying, I don't have time to plan, all these different stations and also the lesson and this and that. And so you've kind of solved that in one one fell swoop right there for us, Lauren, thank you.

Lauren  10:46

Let Chat GPT do the heavy lifting.

Dr. Rogers  10:50

Yes, I do think that that one feature that you mentioned, if you don't like the first set of ideas that it generates, if you click the Generate, again, it'll set another one, it could give me multiple ways of how to do it. So it was even cool when we were looking to how can we create models for teachers, because I it's one thing to tell your teachers as an administrator, I want to see this, but in your classroom, but it's great to give them an exemplar to say let me show you how we can take one idea, it can you can push just by a push of a button, it can give you another way of looking at the same rotation. And it's all about finding the right key words. So even this in itself is great practice, like I need to be concise and precise with the actual item or the task that I want it to be, you know, to develop. So this is a great tool, just for getting started, you know, with with moving forward with a specific project or even implementing a task, and you just want to say, how do I want it to look in my building, or as a school principal, working with people who are just technologically savvy, or even get bigger pictures with the curriculum, because they as she says, I know, my teachers, I want to make sure that they have exact because they're gonna ask me, what is that going to look like in my classroom? Or how do you want that to look, I need to be able to work with people who can give solid examples.

Sonal  12:22

I love that Dr. Rogers, and sometimes you just need a thought partner, you want to just bounce ideas off of each other chat. GPT can do that in so many different ways, right. And I love the fact that you said that it can give different responses. If you don't like this, and you you know, you want a different response based on what you were thinking. You can continue to have that back and forth and come up with some master lesson plan that you can then implement and what you said about curriculum. So true. Sometimes curriculum is written in such a way that it doesn't fully explain certain certain things that you would want in there, right. And so get into more of that into what you need for your classroom and for your students is just a beautiful thing. So thank you for sharing that. I have another question for you. Dr. Rogers, how can principals ensure that charge GPT is being used in a responsible and ethical manner by students and teachers? There's been just a lot of controversy about that particular issue about responsibility and using the ethically and what protocols should be put in place to address any misuse. Do you have any protocols currently? Or do you have some plans to put in some protocols? What do you think?

Dr. Rogers  13:30

So fortunately, I'm at the middle school level, so many of the students are slow to pick up on chat GPT. Now my eighth graders are hearing about it. And some of them are, you know, pretty quick. They're early adopters themselves. Early adopters, so yeah, so what I think it's important for principals that we really need to set clear guidelines for use. And because it's a tool, even for me, with our staff, I was very clear, you are not cutting and pasting a chat GPT lesson. And thinking that that's going to remedy a situation, you have to know your kids. So in that, as you're looking at it guidelines would be as we're building it together, it's partly where I always encouraged when we're working with our PLCs pull it out. But I do want to see it in a different document. Let's start looking through how is this fitting with your students? So some of the guidelines are as you're working in lesson planning. Have your student rosters out think about the students who are sitting in your seats. This lesson may need to be modified from period one to period two because of the different types of learners. So the encouragement of the guidelines is you can always create a sheet that just says hey, here are some some some ideas of thought As you're going to be utilizing it. So we've done a pretty good job of modeling that with our staff. Some of the teachers are really, really great at kind of as we're talking about topics, you know, Chad GPT is there, but they know we were looking at our unit. So having a set unit will also kind of require that teachers are looking at chat GPT a little bit differently, because it has to still fit in with your school goals and your practices. Now, in terms of students, you know, I do think as soon as you acknowledge or you see that a student has used chat GPT in the area of academic honesty, I think you have a responsibility, we have a protocol for reteaching. So we have an academic honesty policy, when we have a student we do sit them down, and we review, what does it mean to have academic and intellectual integrity, you have to give recognition to the to the source that gave you this idea, or at least produced this text.

Lauren  16:03

And what I really liked too, is with IV program, they went out and I feel pretty quickly, they've already addressed chat GPT with their writing, saying, You know what, go for it, use it, here's how you cite it. So not trying to hide from the tool, just knowing that it's not going anywhere. Okay, kids, you can use it, just make sure you cite it, like you would cite any other evidence available.

Dr. Rogers  16:30

And next year, I think as we start, I want to be transparent, as she just said, When we dance around it, like they're not gonna figure it out, or we're trying to hide it from them when they do find it and they do you know, I mean, it's, it's, you have to be able to say, this is what we know is available. And this is how, because you explicitly teach you really can ensure that the students understand where they're supposed to go, when we hide, and we're trying to figure out like, oh, how can we keep this because it's a tool, it is a tool, sometimes our kids need to understand that, you know, the internet isn't bad, or even this process in itself, it's gonna give me an idea that I can build on some of this knowledge. People have knowledge, why can I use this to create or to be unique? So I think those are big things. But I also think that this will be my last one, I think the biggest guideline I have is I've, I've shared with teachers, you're only worried for plagiarism. And this, if you don't know your students, I always know if someone wrote a document you can hear like, if you really spent the time knowing who your students are, you'll know that that was a virtually flawed, flawless paper. So you may want to ask them questions, hey, where did you you know, get this source? Can you tell me where you got these ideas. And there's a reason why you still need to have that idea of, you have to have processed papers and timed writings. And this is where you'll really start seeing where the students thinking are going. And that's crucial. You'll know your students with the multiple facets of way you assess your students. So it's no issue as long as you know that you're employing multiple ways of assessing student learning.

Lauren  18:18

And Dr. Rogers I'll just cut to the chase. I'll just point to a word on a paper. I'm like, that's a really great word to use. Can you define that one for me? And their eyes gets so wide? And they freeze? Because they know they do not know that word at all yet. Yeah

Sonal  18:33

So it's about knowing the students right, and really making them aware of Responsible Use on how to use chat. GPT. And as you mentioned, Dr. Rogers and new Lauren, it's going to be important to establish those clear guidelines for its use, including those protocols, not just for students, but for for educators that are using it as well. And also, I mean, I know you didn't touch on this, but it's important for our listeners to, you know, be aware of the fact that chat GPT is based not based on the most current data, right, I think the data was from sometime last year and correct me if I'm wrong. So you know, it while it continues to update, we just have to be aware of the fact that it's not the most current data. And it also doesn't always need to be vetted. We don't know who put in that data, we have to go in with a lens of you know, really thinking about the biases that might also be in the algorithms that generate that data that's out there. So I think that creating that awareness for students to use chat GPT and educators to use chat, GPT responsibly is going to be important, and you shared some absolutely wonderful examples. Thank you for that.

Jessica  19:42

I really liked the idea of a process paper as well. If students are going to be competing in different student events, I used to be responsible for our History Day event, and they had to write a process paper for that. So giving them these tools to be successful in other areas in how you're implementing These guidelines per chat GPT is versatile. So they're using skills that they can use apply in other areas. So like how you talked about having your roster at your PLN, and thinking about your students. So not just making a lesson plan and say, Yes, I'm going to grab this, and this will work, but really customizing it and tailoring it. And you even said, Dr. Rogers, you can, you're gonna probably have to change it from period one to period two, that that is an excellent guide to go by. And so my next question is going to be asking about how we can use chat GPT to differentiate and support instruction for students to be able to meet their diverse learning needs. And Lauren, you had talked about blended learning earlier as well. So can you expand on how you use chat GPT to meet the diverse needs of students?

Lauren  20:57

Well, what I appreciate, again, is the idea that it can keep you really fresh and new, because I've been teaching for, at this point, I always say so long that I'm always not sure 17-18 years, something like that, um, that you kind of fall into the same old ruts that you're like, This is always my go to with this type of a student, I'm gonna do this. So now you can pop into chat GPT differentiated lesson ideas, and then it might push you down a path that maybe you weren't even thinking about prior. And that now you can say, Okay, I do have this type of student sitting in my seat. Let me try this. And I'm a big, I'm a big proponent of while you might as well try it, you'll never know. And if it's a hot disaster, every teacher out there has had that hot disaster, where you just lean your head against your hand, and you're like, Please let this be over. What have I done, and then you can only learn how to get better from those mistakes, you got to make your Gotta make those mistakes. And that's the only way you're gonna become a better teacher, if you never tried to go outside that comfort zone, you'll never get any better. So chat GPT could kind of help push you to some new ideas that you've never seen before.

Dr. Rogers  22:16

And I've been working with some of the special ed teachers on campus. And we're using it a little bit with the English language learners on the classes that focus on supporting our English language learners. And it's been very eye opening to just see. So we typed in there, how to write and we use our curriculum and how to write, write a steady sync, great six, narrative lesson plan. And it just generated it. And then I also wanted to say, Hey, you guys, remember we have different learners in our classrooms. Now add, differentiate this lesson for English language learners. And it generated some strategies and ways we can do it. I said, generate this lesson, I also modify this lesson for special education students. And it was amazing. So I had many different ideas to work, and it was great seeing the special ed teacher, he was so excited. And he immediately went through, you know, because again, teaching high level math, you know, to students who still are learning and have learning disabilities, and sometimes the disabilities may just be that they're dyslexic, or they you know, I mean, they have audio processing, you know, disability. So as we're working with them, it was great to see him actually work on the center's, and he already knew how to group them, because he had his roster, he had the kids ready, so he knew which ones would be with him individually. With him doing the we call, I'm coining the word high touch, high touch moments with the teachers, and then all of those independent times where they can kind of work on self guided, etc. Lauren is really good at making sure that her centers are more interactive. And she does a great job with just making sure that kids have a variety. So I think what I've seen with most of the staff, they're using it and ways that and we also use data to group the students. So our Maps data, or our iReady data to help them to say, Okay, some of these students may need more support with annotating. This is where the group that you may kind of put them with, and you move them around, so on and so forth.

Jessica  24:37

You guys have really great suggestions. And thank you so much for sharing how you're using chat GPT to think about all your different populations of students, and not only EL students and sped students but students that also learn in in different modalities and have different preferences. So you said Lauren has some interactive stations and I love that chat. GPT can help empower us As educators to get more of these ideas and ways to really stretch us, and push us out of our comfort zone, like Lauren had mentioned, and try new things and see what works with our learners and our kids, to help meet them where they are, and help just get that learning experience to be fun, and something that they enjoy as well.

Sonal  25:21

It actually reminded me of a, because you talked about how that's special education teacher differentiated that that particular lesson, Dr. Rogers, and it reminded me of another educator that I was working with at another site in Fontana, that said, in one of the periods of class periods, they had used the hyperdoc. But because they had such, you know, different talents and abilities in the room, they needed to do something more with that hyperdoc lesson. And so they put it into chat GPT and ask them to differentiate it based on the differing needs of diverse learners in that classroom. And he did an amazing, incredible job. And she took it one step further to ask how technology could be used to scaffold learning for these learners. And oh, my goodness, it came up with so many wonderful ideas. And that's where the teacher might take it and think about the EdTech platforms that are allowed to be used in that specific district, there might be some platforms that the district has purchased. And they just kind of pick and choose which ones they want to particularly use. So thank you for sharing all those wonderful examples. Okay, Dr. Rogers, what are some common misconceptions that you think that teachers at your school say may have about chat GPT? And how would you address those concerns?

Dr. Rogers  26:36

What am I saying, I don't think there's misconceptions, because we've kind of worked through them. But initially, it was a joke, but one teacher goes, Oh, my goodness, I'm gonna get replaced. And it was a running joke. But I think that that was, it was funny, but we all we realized very quickly, yes, it's a tool, it can create, you know, learning lessons for students, and students can probably get some of the information that I would clearly cover, but nothing's going to replace the impact that a human has on a heart, and on molding. And those are the aspects of teaching that I think like where Lauren is kind of highlighting, when you're not tired, you have more time to invest differently. And you can invest in those moments to have, you know, those moments where kids are just excited to be in class, because they see that you're excited, you're not overworked, or you're not so tired. I also think that there were other misconceptions like Chat GPT is always accurate, which you kind of hit on the head, some of the information is a little old. And if you don't choose the correct word, it could send you and give you the wrong information. So you do need to check. And you want to make sure that it's accurate or even aligned with the text that you're requiring the students to use. So you don't want to create blended learning environments, on invasive species that are completely outdated information. Or it's not even in the information that the students would encounter in their, in their curriculum, the district curriculum. So those are some things and chat GPT cannot give personalized feedback. So it can give feedback. But you know, you're still again, having to take those moments where it's emphasizing, like if I want to give feedback to maybe even a teacher or even to a student, I have to choose the correct words. But I still would need to make sure that I go back. And I figure out how is this best worded the finesse of what a human can do, a computer is still trying to imitate it. And it's not. It's not there. And also, it's important for that relationship. And I think it's not as difficult Oh, the biggest one, I think is cheating. It is important besides that, of course, ethical consideration. But I do think that chat GPT is not going to always just make it easier for kids to cheat. If they're going to cheat, they're going to cheat period. And I mean, I think we have to remind ourselves that you have X amount of students, not all of them are gonna go and cheat. You know, we buy them if you know your students, you already know which ones who might try it. But if you're set practices and procedures in place beforehand, it'll be caught and it'll be addressed and you know, you will help your students see the importance of academic integrity and excellence.

Sonal  29:45

Thank you and I just love the quote that you use, and I had to write it down. It was that good. Nothing is going to replace the impact the human has on the heart. And I know you talked about giving feedback but not necessarily personalize the Chat GPT is not going to know your students inside out. I'd like our educators to. So thank you for bringing those things up. There's a lot to Chat GPT up to to use the digital citizenship component as really evaluating the information that we're getting and understanding that it's not the most current information and it could yield some information that is not necessarily aligned with your core curriculum or the content that they are specifically learning. So thank you for mentioning that.

Jessica  30:25

So talking about all the different possibilities with chat GPT, for educators who are new to chat GPT, what advice would you give them for getting started and integrating it into their lesson plans?

Lauren  30:39

My opinion is, and this is what I tell teachers, when they asked me about blended learning to or stations, start small, you do not need to drop into chat GPT please plan the next eight weeks of my life, you're not going to feel comfortable. It's not going to work. plan something really small try? Oh, can I put it in here? Can it save me time here? I think Chat GPT, is what a lifesaver when you're sick. I hate to put it like that. But when you're dying at home, and it's 130 in the morning, and you have to write a sub plan, and chat GPT is going to be there for you. To help you write something at least coherence instead of page and you're trying to remember and it's miserable. Try a variety of prompts would be my next go to like Dr. Rogers was saying it's all about that phrasing. And that wording. You have to get that right path to send chat GPT down, and then it's going to get you to what you could really use. I think I mean, it's just at the end of the day is a great tool to have in your back pocket. Sometimes it's never going to replace you. It's never going to replace the lesson plan that you've curated and spent hours on your baby. And you have all the right foundations in place. It won't. But can it add that extra little spice? It will? Can it update your stuff for the for the 2023 school year? Yes. So I think to tell teachers don't be scared. AI is everywhere you ask Alexa, when's your package gonna come in? You know, what time is it? So it's there. Siri tells me the scores of the hockey game all the time. So it's there in ways we don't even realize anymore. I think in a couple of years down the road, this is just going to be part of our daily lives. And it's not going to be as scary as it may seem right now.

Jessica  32:49

That's excellent advice. And giving that perspective as well, that, you know, we're using AI in all these other areas. And starting small is great as well, just dipping your toe into it and seeing how it can enhance what you already do, but not replace. Excellent advice. Thank you, Lauren.

Sonal  33:08

Exactly. And we definitely can't there's no running away from it. We have many tech organizations now taking AI very seriously and seriously, in a good way. What can I really do to enhance as Jessica was saying? So thank you for that wonderful response, Lauren. So with that, I'm moving on to our final question. This one's for you, Dr. Rogers, but Lauren, feel free to chime in, in what ways do you think chat GPT could transform the future of education? And what possibilities? Do you see foods used in the classroom? And you might want to think about chat, GPT and other AI for this particular question.

Dr. Rogers  33:43

I appreciate that. You said that. Other AI. I think what for me, I always think about it gives us an opportunity to personalize learning and personalized professional development. So in this case, it will be able to help us generate content a little bit faster. Sometimes, even then, new data happens the day before you're supposed to do professional development. That may mean I need to tweak or be a little bit creative. And presenting that information that I may not have an opportunity to get to later it has to be immediate. I can get ideas to even personalize that for different content areas. So if we're looking at writing across the curriculum, it can give me some ideas of how to take one strategy and make it applicable in science, social studies history. If I have a special ed student, I could do that same idea of personalizing and really making an individual path for that students so that I can support and meet their needs. And I think it's also going to have an impact on how we collaborate. So when you are working with needing it Yes, maybe being creative. I like that Lauren says, when you've been in education for a while, it's very easy to whip out that same graphic organizer you've been using for X amount of years, and you know, those same transition words you've been using for years. But in reality, there may need to be a newness that we have to kind of help to implement in the classroom to be more engaging with it. Maybe it's just finding another way of kind of enhancing engagement. And honestly, the kids are not engaged with enhancing it and giving them a different way of interacting with the curriculum. So when I see the impact, I think it's going to help people feel a little bit more comfortable knowing that we have it available. Yes, it's artificial. I like the word it's artificial. It's not real. So that means that I make it real. And I think if we kind of look at that as, as a way of helping it out, it's going to change how we use it. It's artificial, it's a tool, I can really do a lot to be a little bit more proactive in that aspect.

Sonal  36:06

Thank you. And with that oh Lauren, did you want to add anything?

Lauren  36:10

I was just thinking that in the long run, it's going to give teachers some time back. I feel that as a teacher, basically, sometimes you're tasked with, for every unit, you have to build the house, decorate the house, fill the house with people that understand. I think chat GPT can at least build that foundation of your house, and then give you more time to do all the fun decorating things that I know all those teachers out there I live for it is to be creative, and how do I put my own spin on this material? And I think Chad GPT frees that up for you.

Sonal  36:47

Absolutely. That is really great advice. Thank you so much for being on this podcast today. Thank you so much for the great information and insights. We look forward to learning more about how you continue to use chat GPT. I know Dr. Rogers will continue to share what everyone is doing. And Lauren, thank you for bringing it to your school site. I think you can agree that everyone's benefited benefited from it in so many impactful ways. 

Lauren  37:15

Great stuff.

Sonal  37:16

Thank you so much, Dr. Rogers and Lauren. It is always a pleasure. And for those of you listening, be sure to follow Dr. Rogers on Twitter @edurlrogers, and he has a wonderful fun animation if you want to find him quickly of himself of himself and then Lauren at free Lauren tech. You can also check out the school site at FUSD_Southridge. Thank you all for tuning in. And thank you, Dr. Rogers and Lauren.

Lauren  37:45

Thank you for having us.

Sonal  37:47

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